Speaker 1: It's Nightside. Who's Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
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Speaker 2: before hours of talking Conversation, We're going to start off
Speaker 2: tonight with the director of Communications of the National Fire
Speaker 2: Protection Association, Tom Lyons. Tom this, of course, in the
Speaker 2: holiday season you see these horribly cruel stories about a
Speaker 2: fire that will make a family of five homeless. December
Speaker 2: ironically is the leading month for home fires. Why is that?
Speaker 3: Welcome to Nightside, Hey, Dan, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3: I'm a long time listener of yours and a watcher
Speaker 3: when you're on TV, so I really appreciate you having
Speaker 3: us on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so pleasure.
Speaker 3: Well, when you think about you know, December being the
Speaker 3: top month for our home fires, you know, the major
Speaker 3: causes of home fires are cooking, heating, and electrical systems,
Speaker 3: and those are all more prevalent during this time of year.
Speaker 3: You put on top of that the holiday festivities where
Speaker 3: people are using candles more, they're bringing Christmas trees into
Speaker 3: their home and other festive decorations. Those also increase the
Speaker 3: potential fire hazards. But the good news is, you know,
Speaker 3: many of these risks are preventable, and with awareness and
Speaker 3: by taking a few simple precautions, you can stay safe
Speaker 3: and avoid those terrible tragedies that we too often see
Speaker 3: this month.
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned my time as a tellers were important. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I used to see some of the worst fires of
Speaker 2: the year, and I always assumed, yeah, you know, people
Speaker 2: hadn't take care and hear of the heating system, or
Speaker 2: they used too many plugs and overwhelmed and outlet all
Speaker 2: and of course that happens with you know, lights during
Speaker 2: the Christmas season. I got a question for you before
Speaker 2: we get into what people can do. I have recently,
Speaker 2: just for the fun of it, I watched one of
Speaker 2: these ads on the internet. I think they're on the
Speaker 2: TV as well, where there's a kitchen fire and people
Speaker 2: are throwing water at it and flour and of course
Speaker 2: it's only getting worse. And then they were advertising basically
Speaker 2: this cloth that you would throw over the fire to
Speaker 2: suffocate it. Those pretty effective. I've already bought some so
Speaker 2: from my family members if they're ineffective, you know, you
Speaker 2: tell me and I'll tell them not to use them.
Speaker 2: What's your take on that, because you look at it
Speaker 2: on television it looks like they do indeed put the
Speaker 2: fire out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, there are a number of fire safety
Speaker 3: organizations that are looking into those products. They're fairly new.
Speaker 3: The truth is there's not a lot of there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of data on how effective they are and
Speaker 3: how to use them appropriately. So they're getting a lot
Speaker 3: of focus right now to see if there's some you know,
Speaker 3: some science based guidance that we can give people in
Speaker 3: terms of the fire science, but not a lot of
Speaker 3: data right now. What we tell people in terms of
Speaker 3: cooking fires is, you know, one of the easiest things
Speaker 3: you can do is just keep a lid by any
Speaker 3: of your pots and pants. So if you get a
Speaker 3: small grease fire, you just pop that lid on there
Speaker 3: and starve the fire of oxygen, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 3: that will take care of your problem.
Speaker 2: I think that's the same principle they're applying here. But
Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, Well, I hope you don't have a
Speaker 3: chance to use it.
Speaker 2: No you know, we have fire extinguishers and stuff like
Speaker 2: that too, which I think can important to have. As
Speaker 2: I said, I covered a lot of fires, and I'm
Speaker 2: fearful of fires, to be honest with you, because I've
Speaker 2: seen the result. I even had the misfortune of being
Speaker 2: at the Station nightclub fire a few hours after that
Speaker 2: inferno down in Warwick, Rhode Island, back more than a
Speaker 2: few years ago now. And people, you know, they have
Speaker 2: you know, candles burning in rooms and there are people
Speaker 2: not in the room, and all of a sudden the
Speaker 2: candle can go out, can fall off the table or something.
Speaker 2: Give us some good tips that people can keep in mind.
Speaker 2: They want people to come to their homes and they
Speaker 2: want to have it look festive. What are some of
Speaker 2: the things that people should really be cognizant of and
Speaker 2: make sure that they don't overdo it. Let's put it like.
Speaker 3: That, right, Well, let's start with cooking, because that's the
Speaker 3: number one cause of home fires all year round, cooking fires,
Speaker 3: and so you know, with holiday gatherings, kitchens are busier
Speaker 3: usually and distractions are more common, so that leads to
Speaker 3: the risk of cooking fires. You just want to make
Speaker 3: sure you're paying attention to what's in and on top
Speaker 3: of the stove, particularly if you're frying or satang something.
Speaker 3: And like I said before, you want to make sure
Speaker 3: to have first of all, that you're in the kitchen
Speaker 3: when those when that frying or satang is happening, and
Speaker 3: make sure you have a lid nearby to cover up
Speaker 3: a grease fire. Never use water, right, we all know that,
Speaker 3: but we should remind people never use water to try
Speaker 3: to put out a grease fire. And we also tell
Speaker 3: people to make sure that that cooking area is a
Speaker 3: kid in a pet free zone. So if anything gets
Speaker 3: inadvertently knocked off the stove, nobody's going to get injured
Speaker 3: or burned. And a quick tip on how to make
Speaker 3: sure that doesn't happen is to take the handles of
Speaker 3: your pans, your pots, and pants and turn them inwards
Speaker 3: so they're not hanging out over the stove.
Speaker 2: Those are some great suggestions, Tom. I mean that seriously,
Speaker 2: because again it's the sort of thing that you don't
Speaker 2: think of if you're rushing and you just don't take
Speaker 2: that extra second to push the handle away from the edge,
Speaker 2: so no kid's going to come running by and knock
Speaker 2: it over. And I know that has happened. Unfortunately. That's right.
Speaker 2: So this is a wonderful time of year, but we
Speaker 2: also have to be concerned about lithium batteries as well
Speaker 2: as I understand it correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, lithium ion batteries are in most of
Speaker 3: the gifts that we give and receive, but they can
Speaker 3: pose a potential fire risk if they're damaged or improperly used.
Speaker 3: So you know when you're purchasing items that use batteries
Speaker 3: and make sure you're getting them from a reputable manufacturer.
Speaker 3: And you want to avoid these cheap knockoffs or potentially
Speaker 3: counterfeit products because they're just not worth the risk. You
Speaker 3: want to make sure to follow the manufacturers instructioning instructions
Speaker 3: on charging in use. Overcharging or exposing batteries to high
Speaker 3: heat can actually increase the risk of fire in these batteries,
Speaker 3: and these batteries when they catch on fire, they can
Speaker 3: be very dangerous. They burn very hot, and they're very
Speaker 3: difficult to extinguish.
Speaker 2: Want to make sure of them that they combust spontaneously.
Speaker 2: Inside cars, we've we've seen some terrible fires that not
Speaker 2: only not only affect the car, but if there's another
Speaker 2: car park nearby. You can lose two or three or
Speaker 2: five or six cars pretty easily.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're very very hot fires and difficult to extinguish.
Speaker 3: You want to make sure that you're charging these not
Speaker 3: on you know, on a hard surface, not on beds
Speaker 3: or soft sofas. They can actually trap the heat and
Speaker 3: run up the temperature of the battery. And if the
Speaker 3: battery shows any sign of damage like swelling or even smoking,
Speaker 3: you should definitely not use that. Stop using it immediately.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Tomlindes, all great points, and thanks so much. We
Speaker 2: should have you on again during the year to just
Speaker 2: remind people. Maybe if there's one person tonight who will
Speaker 2: remember what you said and there you'll never know whether
Speaker 2: the fire has been avoided. But you've done a great
Speaker 2: public service joining us tonight. Tom. Hope you and yours
Speaker 2: have great holidays.
Speaker 3: Well, a happy holiday, Dan. We really appreciate you having
Speaker 3: us on and we'd love to come back.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a Christmas guy. Do you celebrate Christmas?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Merry Christmas to you and thank.
Speaker 2: You all right, Thanks Tom, talking to you soon. Have
Speaker 2: a great night. We come back. Fascinating story about mold dogs.
Speaker 2: See we're gonna talk with Susan Russell. She's the CEO
Speaker 2: of Mold Dogs. No, let me tell you this is
Speaker 2: really interesting or it's actually singular mold dog knows I
Speaker 2: misread it, but this is interesting. What dog?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: We are always amazed at what dogs are able to
Speaker 2: accomplish for us, to help us. They are indeed man
Speaker 2: and I would say women's best friend is well. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll be back at night Side. My name is Dan Ray.
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna learn something about the sick building syndrome.
Speaker 2: With us. Is Susan Russell. She's the CEO of mold
Speaker 2: dog knows Susan Russell, Welcome to WBZ. I have heard
Speaker 2: of the sick building syndrome, but I've never had someone
Speaker 2: describe it to me. Does this pretty much involve mold
Speaker 2: and that's the problem that that's the problem, know you
Speaker 2: what you're dealing with.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's one of the biggest problems, one of the biggest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious what are some of the others.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen these stories about, you know, the
Speaker 2: apartment building in Miami a few years ago which collapsed.
Speaker 2: It wasn't done, it wasn't done properly. And there's a
Speaker 2: building here in Cambridge, Massachusetts where they've just had long
Speaker 2: time condominium molders evacuate so they can I guess make
Speaker 2: the building stronger or basically is going to take them
Speaker 2: a year to renovate. It's a beautiful building, beautiful local.
Speaker 5: Well wow. Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of problems
Speaker 5: out there with the way that buildings are built. But
Speaker 5: my specific area of expertise would be.
Speaker 2: With the mold.
Speaker 5: And we have a mold dog that actually can detect
Speaker 5: We have two mold dogs that can detect hidden mold
Speaker 5: that you know, can't obviously cannot be seen. A lot
Speaker 5: of people think about mold in a building that's making
Speaker 5: them sick, and then they're looking around and they're saying, no, I.
Speaker 3: Don't don't see anything.
Speaker 4: It's even beautiful.
Speaker 5: New homes, brand new homes.
Speaker 2: So how do you train a dog to detect more?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't train a dog. They are All of
Speaker 5: our dogs have gone to very high level canine facilities.
Speaker 5: One is the Ford of Canine Academy and the other
Speaker 5: is Sector Canine that we used. These are professional canine
Speaker 5: handler trainers that come from military, law enforcement or contract
Speaker 5: workers fb FBI, DEA. And you know, training a mold
Speaker 5: dog is really no or not really no different. It
Speaker 5: is no different than training a dog, whether we're talking narcotics, cadaver, explosives, bombs,
Speaker 5: what have you. It just what the difference is is
Speaker 5: the imprint. What is the scent the odor that you're
Speaker 5: imprinting them on.
Speaker 2: So at mold, you expose them to mold, okay, and
Speaker 2: I assume whatever the smell of mold is, that aren't
Speaker 2: going to wane. And what do you do give them
Speaker 2: a treat when they find that? Is that?
Speaker 5: Is that the way the training is well yeah, it's
Speaker 5: something like that. So we actually we have one of
Speaker 5: our dogs, the popular dog is Zia. She was trained
Speaker 5: at the Florida Canine Academy, and she is a food
Speaker 5: driven dog, so a food motivated dog. So when she
Speaker 5: and she really she only eats, she only eats when
Speaker 5: she locates mold and that's just how that's done. But
Speaker 5: there's also toy driven dogs, which are much more prevalent
Speaker 5: with military and law enforcement, and we actually are switching
Speaker 5: to that because unfortunately, we have been so well, fortunately, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: so incredibly busy that Zia gets full so we can't
Speaker 5: do multiple jobs. But when you have a toy driven dog,
Speaker 5: those those little guys will go job after job after
Speaker 5: job after job. They're very motivated by their toy. So yes,
Speaker 5: it's an incentive, it's a game to them, it's a
Speaker 5: total game.
Speaker 2: So so how during the year are there a lot
Speaker 2: of other companies like yours out there? Or are you pretty.
Speaker 1: Much cry.
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: I would say that there are maybe ten other dogs
Speaker 5: and handlers throughout the United States. The difference with us, though,
Speaker 5: we take it one step further than the others. Our
Speaker 5: handlers are mult assessment technicians. We are required to be
Speaker 5: that and have that licensing or certification in the state
Speaker 5: of Texas. But to have a dog that's an and
Speaker 5: a handler a team, a CA nine team that is
Speaker 5: regulated is helpful whether you are working in Texas or not.
Speaker 5: And then they're also trained as far as being technicians
Speaker 5: with mold and the other thing that we do that
Speaker 5: other teams. I don't know any other teams that do this.
Speaker 5: A mouldog knows does is we only hire professional canine handlers.
Speaker 5: We hire former law enforcement, military and contract workers that
Speaker 5: not only have a lot of training, but many many
Speaker 5: on the job.
Speaker 2: There are a lot only if there are only ten
Speaker 2: of these companies in the United States, do you uh
Speaker 2: get people from far fields?
Speaker 5: Oh yes, Oh my goodness. We you know, we have
Speaker 5: some social media and we went viral, like about six
Speaker 5: weeks ago. We woke up to you know, ten to
Speaker 5: fifteen a week to over six hundred and fifty and
Speaker 5: one night and it just keeps going and anywhere from
Speaker 5: the UK to Canada and all over the United States.
Speaker 5: The demand is crazy. And I want to throw this
Speaker 5: in there that most people do not realize when a
Speaker 5: doctor cannot figure out what is wrong with you, whether
Speaker 5: it's chronic headaches, migraines, head pressure, cyinidis, anxiety, depression, gut dyspiosis, cancer.
Speaker 5: You really got to start turning and looking for hidden
Speaker 5: mold in either you know what place you frequent, which
Speaker 5: is the home or your workplace. My husband is also
Speaker 5: a functional medicine doctor, and we just we see so
Speaker 5: many mold sick people. And if you do not treat
Speaker 5: the mold and get the mold first of all out
Speaker 5: of your environment and then out of your body, which
Speaker 5: takes work and time, you cannot heal. The thyroid, the hormones,
Speaker 5: the what have you.
Speaker 6: If that is not removed, it's very hard to heal.
Speaker 2: So it's all if if someone is diagnosed with let's
Speaker 2: you know, I have a friend of mine with a
Speaker 2: thyroid problem. You mentioned thyroid. If uh huh? If you
Speaker 2: if your dog was able to come to Boston and
Speaker 2: find mold in his or his apartment or home or condo,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, is it possible that
Speaker 2: over a period of time, once the mold is removed,
Speaker 2: that diagnosis can change.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yes, I actually I'm not a I need to but
Speaker 6: this time we're here.
Speaker 4: I'm not a medical expert.
Speaker 2: But in my I know, I didn't know if it's
Speaker 2: if it's sort of something that that people.
Speaker 3: Can keep out absolutely.
Speaker 2: Preemptively obviously to prevent it from from occurring, or if
Speaker 2: they can do it in effect.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2: So how if there are only ten of these companies around.
Speaker 5: The country, well, and I'm guessing ten, Yes, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: I think there's twenty. There's still that's not a lot.
Speaker 2: No requested. They must be pretty busy. So are people
Speaker 2: able to call you and seek advice and maybe even
Speaker 2: see if you could come to wherever we're heard in
Speaker 2: thirty eight states? So maybe you've done yourself a favor.
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
Speaker 5: My goodness, Well, yeah, I mean absolutely. And our company
Speaker 5: again is Mulddog knows like the brain knows. So it's
Speaker 5: because the nose nos mold dog knows. But yes, and yeah,
Speaker 5: I will tell.
Speaker 2: You that the website let's let's let's talk websites for seconds.
Speaker 5: So it's Moldold, mold Dog, k n o w S
Speaker 5: dot com, Molddog nos dot com.
Speaker 2: So we're not talking about the feature in his face.
Speaker 2: We're talking about what is involved in his mind that
Speaker 2: he's able he or she's able to figure it out
Speaker 2: mold dog knows k N O w S dot com. Yes, Susan, interesting.
Speaker 2: Let to check back with you in a few months
Speaker 2: and see see how this business is.
Speaker 5: How we're how we're growing and expanding.
Speaker 3: We yes, we are expanding.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you heard me, but I
Speaker 5: think it's important that our this comes out of our
Speaker 5: own experience. I have walked through mold, illness and recovering,
Speaker 5: so you know, turning lemons into lemonade.
Speaker 2: People. When I worked in televisure, my best stories came
Speaker 2: out of experiences that I had had, and certainly in radio,
Speaker 2: some of the best hours of talk as a consequence
Speaker 2: of experiences that I have had. Because you and I
Speaker 2: well are out there, we have the same experiences as
Speaker 2: everyone else. Susan Russell, I really enjoyed the conversation. We'd
Speaker 2: love to have you back in a couple of months
Speaker 2: and see how you doing.
Speaker 5: Okay, I would love that. Thanks for having us on.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. Merry Christmas, you too, Bye bye
Speaker 2: bye bye. We get back. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: security details for government officials and the process of protecting
Speaker 2: political leaders. I guess it can also now apply to
Speaker 2: corporate leaders. We're going to talk with Eric Brown, a
Speaker 2: former Special Forces Green Beret, founder of a CEO of
Speaker 2: a company called Imperial Consulting. This would be very interesting.
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after the news at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour.
Speaker 1: Night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bes Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. We are going to now talk
Speaker 2: about security. This has been a year in which we
Speaker 2: have seen some very difficult stories to cover, not only
Speaker 2: the assassination attempt to assassination attempts at President elect Trump,
Speaker 2: but we saw what happened a little over a week
Speaker 2: ago in New York City when the CEO of United
Speaker 2: Healthcare was a shot to death at six forty five
Speaker 2: in the morning. With us now is Eric Brown. He's
Speaker 2: with a company called Imperial Consulting. Eric. Welcome to Night, said,
Speaker 2: how are you.
Speaker 7: Done good?
Speaker 6: Appreciate you having me on your show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thanks very much. Now you have a pretty
Speaker 2: extensive military background. Tell us about your green beret. How
Speaker 2: many years in this in service to the country, for
Speaker 2: which I will say, thank.
Speaker 6: You, Hey, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I served in the United States Army for twenty four years,
Speaker 6: and nineteen years of that was in US Army Special
Speaker 6: Forces as green Beray.
Speaker 2: So your company, Imperial Consulting, Uh, it's you have you
Speaker 2: provide I guess security details for the government officials. Is
Speaker 2: this is this the activity that you're involved in at
Speaker 2: this point or do you just do you deal with
Speaker 2: corporate leaders.
Speaker 6: More so, we're dealing with corporate leaders in leadership development,
Speaker 6: team development and advising on risk and how to mitigate
Speaker 6: risk within the activities that they're doing.
Speaker 2: Well. We saw an example that I alluded to obviously,
Speaker 2: the assassination, the murder, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: of the CEO Brian Thompson of United Healthcare. My understanding
Speaker 2: is that he had a security team with him, but
Speaker 2: he was he did the I have a security team
Speaker 2: with him at six forty five A. We could go
Speaker 2: Wednesday when he really needed them.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Unfortunately, it comes sometimes commonplace where people in those
Speaker 6: positions become complacent and a little bit too comfortable in
Speaker 6: their environment, and then unfortunately, when complacency sets in tract
Speaker 6: events take place. We saw that a lot within my
Speaker 6: team or time and Special Forces on teams, the most
Speaker 6: vulnerable that we always are at during combat missions, where
Speaker 6: either when we first got in the country or as
Speaker 6: you're going out of country just either because you're too
Speaker 6: confident in your skills or you've become complacent in everything's
Speaker 6: everyday activity.
Speaker 2: So have we reached a point of this country where
Speaker 2: major corporate leaders and I don't know how you want
Speaker 2: to describe major corporate leaders, but obviously there's some big
Speaker 2: fortune five hundred companies and companies in this country. To
Speaker 2: take a start, do they need to have security details
Speaker 2: with them at all times or do they need to
Speaker 2: be more circumspect in the information that they released to
Speaker 2: the public. This guy was going, this victim, Brian Thompson,
Speaker 2: I believe, was going to address a stockholders meaning in
Speaker 2: New York, which I assume was pretty well publicized. Give
Speaker 2: us what corporations and corporate leaders should be thinking about
Speaker 2: at this point, particularly in the wake of this incident
Speaker 2: in New York.
Speaker 6: I think it would all come down to the profile
Speaker 6: of that corporate leader. If you're taking into somebody like
Speaker 6: Elon Musk or something like that, I would say he
Speaker 6: would need a security detail twenty four hours day, some
Speaker 6: days a week. But first someone like the victim it
Speaker 6: took place in New York, it means he needs to
Speaker 6: be more of managing his profile and taking an account
Speaker 6: when he's going to be highly visible and ensuring he
Speaker 6: has security during those points, and when he's less visible,
Speaker 6: you can and cut back a bit. But it comes
Speaker 6: down to risk and integation and understanding what risks are
Speaker 6: out there and ensuring that you're all the information possible
Speaker 6: that you can have to mitigate that risk.
Speaker 2: And so where do you folks come into the process
Speaker 2: when you're invited in by a company, did you basically
Speaker 2: start from scratch or do you ask the company what
Speaker 2: are they looking for? I assume that they should be
Speaker 2: relying on your advice more than asking you exactly what
Speaker 2: they would like you to do. Tell me, tell me,
Speaker 2: which is at more accurate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, when you're come into a company, we try
Speaker 6: to assess from talking one on one so we can
Speaker 6: understand exactly what challenges they're facing, so we can come
Speaker 6: up with a customized approach to mitigate whatever risk that
Speaker 6: they're the firs seeing through one on one conversations, whether
Speaker 6: it be talking to the principle or through surveys through
Speaker 6: the company, but really just trying to understand what they're
Speaker 6: they're facing and come up with a customized approach to
Speaker 6: tell them achieve what a challenge they're facing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me talk about a risk for high
Speaker 2: profile individuals who most of us have heard about recently,
Speaker 2: and apparently there are some individuals have decided it'd be
Speaker 2: a great idea to break in the homes of professional athletes.
Speaker 7: When those pro athletes, people like Patrick Mahomes or Kelsey
Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey with the Kansas City Chiefs basketball played with
Speaker 7: the Milwaukee Bucks to break into their homes, I guess
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow's home was broken into as well, the quarterback
Speaker 7: for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: These guys are making lots of money. Why are they
Speaker 2: not thinking? Why is their organization, whether you want to
Speaker 2: call it the NFL in the case of Mahomes and
Speaker 2: Kelsey or professional sports their particular teams. Once this has happened, now,
Speaker 2: why are they not smart enough to say, Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I got to hire at least a couple of local
Speaker 2: police offices. I'm going to be away. You know, next
Speaker 2: weekend we're going to be playing in San Francisco and
Speaker 2: I live two thousand miles away. I don't want my
Speaker 2: house broken into. Why are they not thinking this way?
Speaker 6: It comes down the old adage of it's not going
Speaker 6: to be me. People have gotten so used to live
Speaker 6: in a public light, especially those famous athletes and where
Speaker 6: it be actors or actresses that get used to living
Speaker 6: in in the limelight. They think nothing's going to happen
Speaker 6: to them and don't has any electant towards them. However,
Speaker 6: you just gotta think that, you know, hey, if I'm
Speaker 6: going to be a town, I gotta take those measures
Speaker 6: in place. It's better to over overplan and over execute
Speaker 6: then have to deal with the consequences when you don't.
Speaker 2: Well. When when I think of the pro athletes, I
Speaker 2: mean obviously when the kids and the city chiefs are
Speaker 2: on the road, everybody knows that the team in most
Speaker 2: cases leaves that Saturday to play a game on Sunday,
Speaker 2: so you know they should. I just don't understand why
Speaker 2: these athletes, highly compensated and by the way, advised by
Speaker 2: professional sports agents, have not figured it out that you know,
Speaker 2: give your house keys to you know, someone who you
Speaker 2: trust and who has the ability to deal with someone
Speaker 2: coming through the door at two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: and whether it's your company or again local police department officials,
Speaker 2: you know, pay them. You got to pay them. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't just say, hey, do me a favorite sit
Speaker 2: in my house, because you got to get them and
Speaker 2: basically you hire them. As a detail. Have you had
Speaker 2: your company has this spate of high profile break ins
Speaker 2: at pro athletes homes? Has that generated some interest for
Speaker 2: your company? Now?
Speaker 6: Now as this time of anyone reaching out, let's say
Speaker 6: that it just comes down to really complacency and then
Speaker 6: not think thinking things through of like hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: be on my house on high profile, publish everything on
Speaker 6: social media, and everyone is going to know where I'm at.
Speaker 6: And obviously those who want to take advantage of that
Speaker 6: I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, it's just not pro athletes,
Speaker 2: by the way, because you know there are other people who,
Speaker 2: as you say on social media, they can be you know, lawyers,
Speaker 2: they can be politicians. I mean it seems to me
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of people who in this society
Speaker 2: need more protection.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with one hundred percent. Just like our
Speaker 6: time of doing. If we're doing operations and special forces
Speaker 6: and small small teams either be singleton operating by yourself
Speaker 6: or a team of you know, three six people, you
Speaker 6: got to think and start planning, Like everything that you
Speaker 6: do is being watched and you've got to be ready
Speaker 6: to react to the worst case circumstance. And people don't
Speaker 6: think that way. They think everything's going to be good
Speaker 6: and nothing bad it's going to happen to them, and
Speaker 6: that's especially when the worst thing happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, last question, Eric, who is your clientele at
Speaker 2: this point? I mean not by name, but who who
Speaker 2: was seeking your services? And if people want to get
Speaker 2: in touch with you, just give me an idea about
Speaker 2: who's your client tele and how they care.
Speaker 6: So the touch Yeah, that's the way you can touch
Speaker 6: with is either through a website Imperio, Dash Consulting dot com,
Speaker 6: or reach out to me on LinkedIn with Garrett Brown.
Speaker 3: With Imperial Consulting.
Speaker 6: Clientele, you're looking at mid sized enterprises anywhere from ten
Speaker 6: to one hundred employees with a rep you know, you know,
Speaker 6: revenue anywhere from ten to one hundred million dollars plus
Speaker 6: and revenue. We're really going to those folks that really
Speaker 6: need to think about that. They need to put protection
Speaker 6: in place before it hapstence because they have limited resources.
Speaker 6: You know, if something happens to Google, they have unlimited
Speaker 6: resource to fix it afterwards. But the smaller companies in
Speaker 6: the realms of about fifty to one hundred million dollars revenue,
Speaker 6: that really hurts them when something happens in place, you know,
Speaker 6: because their revenue is paying to each eachpasode thing they
Speaker 6: have to do.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Eric enjoyed talking with you. I think it's a
Speaker 2: fascinating conversation. Like to check back within a few months
Speaker 2: and see if your business is growing. I think that
Speaker 2: it has to win this environment. I really know, but
Speaker 2: particularly as a veteran owned and operated business Imperial Consulting, Eric,
Speaker 2: appreciate again your service, Appreciate your time tonight.
Speaker 6: Hey, I really appreciate having me on. Thank you for
Speaker 6: what you do and keep getting good information out there.
Speaker 2: Sure well, thanks Eric, we get back. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk with an author's name is Richard Battle. Has recently
Speaker 2: put into paper back. As I understand that a book
Speaker 2: that has been well received Americans Who Made America eighteenth
Speaker 2: century Birth of the Republic, Optims and Timeless Lessons from
Speaker 2: Washington for Washington. I think this will be a fun
Speaker 2: interview with Richard Battle on the other side of the
Speaker 2: break here on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios. I'm WBZ News.
Speaker 2: Radio delighted to be joined by author Richard Battle. Have
Speaker 2: not read this book, but it's got some great reviews.
Speaker 2: It's on Amazon, Americans who made America, eighteenth century, birth
Speaker 2: of the Republic, optimism, and timeless lessons from Washington for Washington. Richard.
Speaker 2: I haven't read this book, but I intend to welcome
Speaker 2: to Nightside and thank you for writing a book that
Speaker 2: talks about this amazing group of Americans who happened to
Speaker 2: be living at the same time and were so dedicated
Speaker 2: to freeing this country from England. I haven't read your book,
Speaker 2: but I hope that is what the story is that
Speaker 2: is told.
Speaker 4: Well, good evening, Dan, thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 4: And let me first acknowledge today being the two hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty first anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, because
Speaker 4: that was one of the preliminary actions that led us
Speaker 4: to our independence.
Speaker 2: A dear friend of mine in Idaho today sent me
Speaker 2: a text message. I had forgotten about it, but this
Speaker 2: friend of mine in Idaho remember it, and that's that's
Speaker 2: how I knew that today was the day. And I
Speaker 2: suspect they probably had a reenactment not far from where
Speaker 2: I'm sitting today. At least I hope they did tell
Speaker 2: us how exte I mean it was that these folks
Speaker 2: were able to do what they did. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you really see.
Speaker 4: That volume, yeah, go ahead. This volume, Americans Who Made
Speaker 4: America eighteenth century Birth of the Republic, is the first
Speaker 4: of a four book series, and I'm basically celebrating eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth,
Speaker 4: and I'll go back and pick up sixteenth and seventeenth
Speaker 4: century Americans. I believe that it was the American do
Speaker 4: spirit of individual rules who made this country what it is.
Speaker 4: It wasn't government by itself. And I was tired of
Speaker 4: people telling us what we couldn't do in government, telling
Speaker 4: us we could only do things they would let us do.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to celebrate those heroes from before, some
Speaker 4: you'll know and some you want, because I wanted to
Speaker 4: inspire people to pursue their dreams and RelA like that
Speaker 4: America can do spirit in themselves.
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is that the Americans of the
Speaker 2: late eighteenth century, which obviously encompassed the period of time
Speaker 2: when when you know, from again the Tea Party through
Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence, and the writing of the Constitution,
Speaker 2: of the formation of a formal government. They were not
Speaker 2: perfect individuals. They were men who owned slaves, but they
Speaker 2: they were the men of their time. And the focus
Speaker 2: has not been on what they achieved and what they
Speaker 2: accomplished and what they set in motion, but it has
Speaker 2: it has been, you know, let's rip apart the things
Speaker 2: that they did, which which will obviously not good things.
Speaker 2: How do you address that issue of Jefferson owned slaves,
Speaker 2: Washington on them.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you're correct. And the founders recognized they
Speaker 4: were not perfect. They're not perfect. The people between them
Speaker 4: and us weren't perfect, were not perfect perfect. The people
Speaker 4: following us will not be perfect. And that's why they
Speaker 4: knew that they needed to establish a government to restrain
Speaker 4: those imperfections of people. So there were checks and balances
Speaker 4: and a balance of power to keep any one person
Speaker 4: or one group from having too much power. And the
Speaker 4: thing that amazed me, and I hadn't really thought of
Speaker 4: it before I was doing the research on this volume,
Speaker 4: was how all of the signers and the Founders and
Speaker 4: the patriots they put aside their individual different is to
Speaker 4: write the Declaration right, the Constitution, win the Revolutionary War,
Speaker 4: and they did all of that, and then once everything
Speaker 4: was settled, then they all started pursuing their individual interest again.
Speaker 4: But for them to sacrifice those interests for such a
Speaker 4: long period in order to give us our country was
Speaker 4: a monumental feat.
Speaker 2: And what people don't realize is that they literally put
Speaker 2: their lives on the line. I mean, jo it was.
Speaker 2: This could have ended pretty badly for all of these
Speaker 2: people who we revere, Adams and Jefferson and Madison and
Speaker 2: Monroe in Washington and all of them, all of them
Speaker 2: could have been easily hung by their necks until dead
Speaker 2: if the British forces had prevailed.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, that's exactly correct. When the fifty sixth signers
Speaker 4: signed the declaration, there were death warrants put out for
Speaker 4: them from King George. They all suffered, some went broke,
Speaker 4: some had their wives killed, some had sons killed. They
Speaker 4: all suffered, but none of them betrayed the pledge they
Speaker 4: made to each other, which I think was a tremendous
Speaker 4: feat at that time. And there's one story I tell
Speaker 4: of a woman in there who I'd never heard of,
Speaker 4: named Mary Catherine Goddard, and her name was on the
Speaker 4: Goddard broadside first printing of the declaration with the signatures,
Speaker 4: and I'm shortening the story, but she had a printing
Speaker 4: company and normally would put on their printed by M. K. Goddard,
Speaker 4: but she had the courage to write on there printed
Speaker 4: by Mary Catherine Goddard, on that Declaration of Independence. So
Speaker 4: she voluntarily put her name on a death warrant as well.
Speaker 4: And the courage it took for her to do that,
Speaker 4: and the absolute need for us to recognize and appreciate
Speaker 4: and honor her for what she did, as well as
Speaker 4: so many people beyond the forty that I highlight in
Speaker 4: the Americans who made America.
Speaker 2: How did you get involved in Are you a historian
Speaker 2: by trade? How'd you or you somebody who came to
Speaker 2: love this ERAa of history?
Speaker 4: Well? Well, I love history, always have very well read.
Speaker 4: I love to read. I love to study history from
Speaker 4: the Revolutionary War through World War two and beyond. And
Speaker 4: again I was sick and tired of people telling us
Speaker 4: that what we couldn't do, and I wrote a a
Speaker 4: essay and I suggested building a hall of fame for
Speaker 4: the people with the American do spirit. And then I
Speaker 4: found out that there was one in New York for
Speaker 4: Great Americans, and I thought, well, heck, I never even
Speaker 4: heard of it. And so then I got the inspiration,
Speaker 4: why build a museum for people that very few people
Speaker 4: go to? Why not have a museum that can go
Speaker 4: to people? So the volume celebrates people who are worthy
Speaker 4: of Hall of Fame selection.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is great. So the this is the paperback
Speaker 2: which has now been issued correct as I understand it,
Speaker 2: When was? When was?
Speaker 4: The book? The Americans Who Made America is available in paperback,
Speaker 4: kindle and audio.
Speaker 2: Version easily through I assume Amazon or who whomever else
Speaker 2: where people normally get their books.
Speaker 4: That book and all my others are at Amazon and
Speaker 4: for the kendles and audios as well. Richard Battle dot com.
Speaker 4: You can get any of the eleven books I've written,
Speaker 4: all our signs there as well and other bookstores.
Speaker 2: All right, and how did you become an author? I
Speaker 2: mean very I think they can write.
Speaker 4: Well, we don't have time for me to give the
Speaker 4: whole story, but I'll tell you that my English teachers
Speaker 4: in high school never dreamed I'd read a book, and
Speaker 4: I never dreamed i'd write one. And now I've written
Speaker 4: eleven and I'm more of a speaker, and the writing
Speaker 4: devolved off the speaking.
Speaker 2: All right, that's great, Richard Battle, thank you very much. Again.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful the time that you've taken to write this book,
Speaker 2: and hopefully people will read it and maybe give it
Speaker 2: to their children and their relatives as a Christmas present.
Speaker 2: Americans who made America, eighteenth century, birth of the Republic,
Speaker 2: optimism and timeless lessons from Washington for Washington. Richard Battle,
Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time tonight.
Speaker 4: Thank you, God blessed America, and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: And merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: When we come back after the nine o'clock news, you're
Speaker 2: going to be talking with a very interesting person who's
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, who's an investigative journalist. He also
Speaker 2: has a long career in technology. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about drones over six states now, including Massachusetts. They won't
Speaker 2: tell us what they are. Maybe they don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know which scares me worse. Back on nights side,
Speaker 2: right after the nine