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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside. Who's Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much to call. No, we're not gonna pun tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are lousy football games. Come on those. None of

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<v Speaker 2>those teams are any good. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're very good here on Nightside. We meaning myself

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<v Speaker 2>and Rock Brooks, the producer of this program. I am

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray. My name is Dan Ray. Here all week.

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<v Speaker 2>We got quite a week coming up for you here

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside. Tomorrow night at nine o'clock, we will have

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<v Speaker 2>as a very special guest, New Hampshire Governor Christinoon, who,

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<v Speaker 2>probably his last appearance in his capacity as Governor of

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire is my favorite governor here in New England,

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<v Speaker 2>favorite governor of the United States as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>He's entertaining, he's fun, he is entertaining, he is fun

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with and talk to, so we are looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to that. Later on this week, we will have

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<v Speaker 2>the WBZ car guys in on Thursday night from ten

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve, and on Friday night we will finish my

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast year with our twelve annual charity combine. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>got lots to do, lots to do this week, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will start it off this hour. This will be

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<v Speaker 2>our second last Nightside News Update. Producer Marita will be

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<v Speaker 2>having a few days off this week, so as a consequence,

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<v Speaker 2>we won't be doing the Nightside News Update tonight. We

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<v Speaker 2>will and tomorrow night but on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday

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<v Speaker 2>before hours of talking Conversation, We're going to start off

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<v Speaker 2>tonight with the director of Communications of the National Fire

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<v Speaker 2>Protection Association, Tom Lyons. Tom this, of course, in the

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<v Speaker 2>holiday season you see these horribly cruel stories about a

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<v Speaker 2>fire that will make a family of five homeless. December

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<v Speaker 2>ironically is the leading month for home fires. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Nightside, Hey, Dan, thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a long time listener of yours and a watcher

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<v Speaker 3>when you're on TV, so I really appreciate you having

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<v Speaker 3>us on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you think about you know, December being the

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<v Speaker 3>top month for our home fires, you know, the major

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<v Speaker 3>causes of home fires are cooking, heating, and electrical systems,

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<v Speaker 3>and those are all more prevalent during this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>You put on top of that the holiday festivities where

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<v Speaker 3>people are using candles more, they're bringing Christmas trees into

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<v Speaker 3>their home and other festive decorations. Those also increase the

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<v Speaker 3>potential fire hazards. But the good news is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>many of these risks are preventable, and with awareness and

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<v Speaker 3>by taking a few simple precautions, you can stay safe

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<v Speaker 3>and avoid those terrible tragedies that we too often see

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<v Speaker 3>this month.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you mentioned my time as a tellers were important. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to see some of the worst fires of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and I always assumed, yeah, you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't take care and hear of the heating system, or

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<v Speaker 2>they used too many plugs and overwhelmed and outlet all

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<v Speaker 2>and of course that happens with you know, lights during

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<v Speaker 2>the Christmas season. I got a question for you before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into what people can do. I have recently,

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<v Speaker 2>just for the fun of it, I watched one of

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<v Speaker 2>these ads on the internet. I think they're on the

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<v Speaker 2>TV as well, where there's a kitchen fire and people

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<v Speaker 2>are throwing water at it and flour and of course

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<v Speaker 2>it's only getting worse. And then they were advertising basically

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<v Speaker 2>this cloth that you would throw over the fire to

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<v Speaker 2>suffocate it. Those pretty effective. I've already bought some so

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<v Speaker 2>from my family members if they're ineffective, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me and I'll tell them not to use them.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your take on that, because you look at it

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<v Speaker 2>on television it looks like they do indeed put the

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<v Speaker 2>fire out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, there are a number of fire safety

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<v Speaker 3>organizations that are looking into those products. They're fairly new.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is there's not a lot of there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of data on how effective they are and

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<v Speaker 3>how to use them appropriately. So they're getting a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of focus right now to see if there's some you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some science based guidance that we can give people in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of the fire science, but not a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>data right now. What we tell people in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>cooking fires is, you know, one of the easiest things

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<v Speaker 3>you can do is just keep a lid by any

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<v Speaker 3>of your pots and pants. So if you get a

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<v Speaker 3>small grease fire, you just pop that lid on there

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<v Speaker 3>and starve the fire of oxygen, and you know, hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>that will take care of your problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the same principle they're applying here. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll figure it out. I'll let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Okay, Well, I hope you don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>No you know, we have fire extinguishers and stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>that too, which I think can important to have. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I covered a lot of fires, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fearful of fires, to be honest with you, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the result. I even had the misfortune of being

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<v Speaker 2>at the Station nightclub fire a few hours after that

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<v Speaker 2>inferno down in Warwick, Rhode Island, back more than a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago now. And people, you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, candles burning in rooms and there are people

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<v Speaker 2>not in the room, and all of a sudden the

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<v Speaker 2>candle can go out, can fall off the table or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us some good tips that people can keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>They want people to come to their homes and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to have it look festive. What are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that people should really be cognizant of and

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that they don't overdo it. Let's put it like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, right, Well, let's start with cooking, because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>number one cause of home fires all year round, cooking fires,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, with holiday gatherings, kitchens are busier

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<v Speaker 3>usually and distractions are more common, so that leads to

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<v Speaker 3>the risk of cooking fires. You just want to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure you're paying attention to what's in and on top

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<v Speaker 3>of the stove, particularly if you're frying or satang something.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said before, you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>to have first of all, that you're in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>when those when that frying or satang is happening, and

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you have a lid nearby to cover up

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<v Speaker 3>a grease fire. Never use water, right, we all know that,

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<v Speaker 3>but we should remind people never use water to try

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<v Speaker 3>to put out a grease fire. And we also tell

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<v Speaker 3>people to make sure that that cooking area is a

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<v Speaker 3>kid in a pet free zone. So if anything gets

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<v Speaker 3>inadvertently knocked off the stove, nobody's going to get injured

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<v Speaker 3>or burned. And a quick tip on how to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that doesn't happen is to take the handles of

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<v Speaker 3>your pans, your pots, and pants and turn them inwards

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not hanging out over the stove.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some great suggestions, Tom. I mean that seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>because again it's the sort of thing that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>think of if you're rushing and you just don't take

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<v Speaker 2>that extra second to push the handle away from the edge,

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<v Speaker 2>so no kid's going to come running by and knock

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<v Speaker 2>it over. And I know that has happened. Unfortunately. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a wonderful time of year, but we

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<v Speaker 2>also have to be concerned about lithium batteries as well

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand it correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, lithium ion batteries are in most of

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<v Speaker 3>the gifts that we give and receive, but they can

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<v Speaker 3>pose a potential fire risk if they're damaged or improperly used.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know when you're purchasing items that use batteries

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<v Speaker 3>and make sure you're getting them from a reputable manufacturer.

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<v Speaker 3>And you want to avoid these cheap knockoffs or potentially

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<v Speaker 3>counterfeit products because they're just not worth the risk. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure to follow the manufacturers instructioning instructions

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<v Speaker 3>on charging in use. Overcharging or exposing batteries to high

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<v Speaker 3>heat can actually increase the risk of fire in these batteries,

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<v Speaker 3>and these batteries when they catch on fire, they can

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<v Speaker 3>be very dangerous. They burn very hot, and they're very

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<v Speaker 3>difficult to extinguish.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to make sure of them that they combust spontaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside cars, we've we've seen some terrible fires that not

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<v Speaker 2>only not only affect the car, but if there's another

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<v Speaker 2>car park nearby. You can lose two or three or

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<v Speaker 2>five or six cars pretty easily.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they're very very hot fires and difficult to extinguish.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to make sure that you're charging these not

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, on a hard surface, not on beds

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<v Speaker 3>or soft sofas. They can actually trap the heat and

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<v Speaker 3>run up the temperature of the battery. And if the

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<v Speaker 3>battery shows any sign of damage like swelling or even smoking,

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<v Speaker 3>you should definitely not use that. Stop using it immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Tomlindes, all great points, and thanks so much. We

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<v Speaker 2>should have you on again during the year to just

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<v Speaker 2>remind people. Maybe if there's one person tonight who will

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<v Speaker 2>remember what you said and there you'll never know whether

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<v Speaker 2>the fire has been avoided. But you've done a great

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<v Speaker 2>public service joining us tonight. Tom. Hope you and yours

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<v Speaker 2>have great holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, a happy holiday, Dan. We really appreciate you having

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<v Speaker 3>us on and we'd love to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a Christmas guy. Do you celebrate Christmas?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Merry Christmas to you and thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You all right, Thanks Tom, talking to you soon. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a great night. We come back. Fascinating story about mold dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>See we're gonna talk with Susan Russell. She's the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of Mold Dogs. No, let me tell you this is

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting or it's actually singular mold dog knows I

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<v Speaker 2>misread it, but this is interesting. What dog?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>We are always amazed at what dogs are able to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish for us, to help us. They are indeed man

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say women's best friend is well. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray, mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're gonna learn something about the sick building syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>With us. Is Susan Russell. She's the CEO of mold

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<v Speaker 2>dog knows Susan Russell, Welcome to WBZ. I have heard

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<v Speaker 2>of the sick building syndrome, but I've never had someone

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<v Speaker 2>describe it to me. Does this pretty much involve mold

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the problem that that's the problem, know you

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<v Speaker 2>what you're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's one of the biggest problems, one of the biggest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just curious what are some of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've seen these stories about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>apartment building in Miami a few years ago which collapsed.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't done, it wasn't done properly. And there's a

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<v Speaker 2>building here in Cambridge, Massachusetts where they've just had long

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<v Speaker 2>time condominium molders evacuate so they can I guess make

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<v Speaker 2>the building stronger or basically is going to take them

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<v Speaker 2>a year to renovate. It's a beautiful building, beautiful local.

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<v Speaker 5>Well wow. Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of problems

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<v Speaker 5>my specific area of expertise would be.

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<v Speaker 2>With the mold.

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<v Speaker 5>And we have a mold dog that actually can detect

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, can't obviously cannot be seen. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>Don't don't see anything.

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<v Speaker 4>It's even beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>New homes, brand new homes.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you train a dog to detect more?

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<v Speaker 5>our dogs have gone to very high level canine facilities.

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<v Speaker 5>is Sector Canine that we used. These are professional canine

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<v Speaker 5>is no different than training a dog, whether we're talking narcotics, cadaver, explosives, bombs,

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<v Speaker 5>what have you. It just what the difference is is

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<v Speaker 5>the imprint. What is the scent the odor that you're

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<v Speaker 2>So at mold, you expose them to mold, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>going to wane. And what do you do give them

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<v Speaker 2>a treat when they find that? Is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that the way the training is well yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 5>something like that. So we actually we have one of

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<v Speaker 5>driven dog, so a food motivated dog. So when she

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<v Speaker 5>and she really she only eats, she only eats when

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<v Speaker 5>she locates mold and that's just how that's done. But

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<v Speaker 5>there's also toy driven dogs, which are much more prevalent

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<v Speaker 5>with military and law enforcement, and we actually are switching

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<v Speaker 5>to that because unfortunately, we have been so well, fortunately, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 5>those those little guys will go job after job after

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<v Speaker 2>So so how during the year are there a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other companies like yours out there? Or are you pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much cry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say that there are maybe ten other dogs

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<v Speaker 5>and handlers throughout the United States. The difference with us, though,

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<v Speaker 5>we take it one step further than the others. Our

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<v Speaker 5>of Texas. But to have a dog that's an and

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<v Speaker 5>a handler a team, a CA nine team that is

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<v Speaker 5>regulated is helpful whether you are working in Texas or not.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they're also trained as far as being technicians

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<v Speaker 5>with mold and the other thing that we do that

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<v Speaker 5>other teams. I don't know any other teams that do this.

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<v Speaker 5>A mouldog knows does is we only hire professional canine handlers.

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<v Speaker 5>We hire former law enforcement, military and contract workers that

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot only if there are only ten

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<v Speaker 2>of these companies in the United States, do you uh

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<v Speaker 2>get people from far fields?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, Oh my goodness. We you know, we have

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<v Speaker 5>one night and it just keeps going and anywhere from

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<v Speaker 5>the UK to Canada and all over the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>The demand is crazy. And I want to throw this

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<v Speaker 5>You really got to start turning and looking for hidden

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<v Speaker 5>mold in either you know what place you frequent, which

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<v Speaker 5>is the home or your workplace. My husband is also

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<v Speaker 5>a functional medicine doctor, and we just we see so

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<v Speaker 5>many mold sick people. And if you do not treat

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<v Speaker 5>of your environment and then out of your body, which

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<v Speaker 5>takes work and time, you cannot heal. The thyroid, the hormones,

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<v Speaker 6>If that is not removed, it's very hard to heal.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's all if if someone is diagnosed with let's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I have a friend of mine with a

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<v Speaker 2>thyroid problem. You mentioned thyroid. If uh huh? If you

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<v Speaker 2>if your dog was able to come to Boston and

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<v Speaker 2>find mold in his or his apartment or home or condo,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, is it possible that

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<v Speaker 2>over a period of time, once the mold is removed,

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<v Speaker 2>that diagnosis can change.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I actually I'm not a I need to but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a medical expert.

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<v Speaker 2>But in my I know, I didn't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>if it's sort of something that that people.

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<v Speaker 3>Can keep out absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Preemptively obviously to prevent it from from occurring, or if

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>So how if there are only ten of these companies around.

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<v Speaker 5>The country, well, and I'm guessing ten, Yes, I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's twenty. There's still that's not a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>No requested. They must be pretty busy. So are people

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<v Speaker 2>able to call you and seek advice and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>see if you could come to wherever we're heard in

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight states? So maybe you've done yourself a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 5>My goodness, Well, yeah, I mean absolutely. And our company

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<v Speaker 5>again is Mulddog knows like the brain knows. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>because the nose nos mold dog knows. But yes, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You that the website let's let's let's talk websites for seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's Moldold, mold Dog, k n o w S

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<v Speaker 5>dot com, Molddog nos dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not talking about the feature in his face.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about what is involved in his mind that

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<v Speaker 2>he's able he or she's able to figure it out

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<v Speaker 2>mold dog knows k N O w S dot com. Yes, Susan, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let to check back with you in a few months

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<v Speaker 2>and see see how this business is.

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<v Speaker 5>How we're how we're growing and expanding.

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<v Speaker 3>We yes, we are expanding.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if you heard me, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's important that our this comes out of our

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<v Speaker 5>own experience. I have walked through mold, illness and recovering,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, turning lemons into lemonade.

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<v Speaker 2>People. When I worked in televisure, my best stories came

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<v Speaker 2>out of experiences that I had had, and certainly in radio,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the best hours of talk as a consequence

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<v Speaker 2>of experiences that I have had. Because you and I

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<v Speaker 2>well are out there, we have the same experiences as

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else. Susan Russell, I really enjoyed the conversation. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to have you back in a couple of months

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<v Speaker 2>and see how you doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I would love that. Thanks for having us on.

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<v Speaker 2>You're more than welcome. Merry Christmas, you too, Bye bye

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye. We get back. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>security details for government officials and the process of protecting

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<v Speaker 2>political leaders. I guess it can also now apply to

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<v Speaker 2>corporate leaders. We're going to talk with Eric Brown, a

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<v Speaker 2>former Special Forces Green Beret, founder of a CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>a company called Imperial Consulting. This would be very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back right after the news at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Bes Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back. We are going to now talk

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<v Speaker 2>about security. This has been a year in which we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen some very difficult stories to cover, not only

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<v Speaker 2>the assassination attempt to assassination attempts at President elect Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but we saw what happened a little over a week

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<v Speaker 2>ago in New York City when the CEO of United

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<v Speaker 2>Healthcare was a shot to death at six forty five

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. With us now is Eric Brown. He's

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<v Speaker 2>with a company called Imperial Consulting. Eric. Welcome to Night, said,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you.

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<v Speaker 7>Done good?

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate you having me on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, thanks very much. Now you have a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>extensive military background. Tell us about your green beret. How

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<v Speaker 2>many years in this in service to the country, for

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<v Speaker 2>which I will say, thank.

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<v Speaker 6>You, Hey, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I served in the United States Army for twenty four years,

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<v Speaker 2>So your company, Imperial Consulting, Uh, it's you have you

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<v Speaker 2>provide I guess security details for the government officials. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this is this the activity that you're involved in at

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<v Speaker 2>this point or do you just do you deal with

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<v Speaker 2>corporate leaders.

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<v Speaker 6>More so, we're dealing with corporate leaders in leadership development,

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<v Speaker 2>Well. We saw an example that I alluded to obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the assassination, the murder, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 2>of the CEO Brian Thompson of United Healthcare. My understanding

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<v Speaker 2>is that he had a security team with him, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was he did the I have a security team

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<v Speaker 2>with him at six forty five A. We could go

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday when he really needed them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Unfortunately, it comes sometimes commonplace where people in those

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<v Speaker 6>their environment, and then unfortunately, when complacency sets in tract

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<v Speaker 6>events take place. We saw that a lot within my

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<v Speaker 6>team or time and Special Forces on teams, the most

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<v Speaker 6>vulnerable that we always are at during combat missions, where

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<v Speaker 6>either when we first got in the country or as

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<v Speaker 6>you're going out of country just either because you're too

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<v Speaker 2>So have we reached a point of this country where

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<v Speaker 2>major corporate leaders and I don't know how you want

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<v Speaker 2>to describe major corporate leaders, but obviously there's some big

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<v Speaker 2>fortune five hundred companies and companies in this country. To

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<v Speaker 2>take a start, do they need to have security details

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<v Speaker 2>with them at all times or do they need to

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<v Speaker 2>be more circumspect in the information that they released to

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<v Speaker 2>the public. This guy was going, this victim, Brian Thompson,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, was going to address a stockholders meaning in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, which I assume was pretty well publicized. Give

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<v Speaker 2>us what corporations and corporate leaders should be thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, particularly in the wake of this incident

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<v Speaker 2>in New York.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it would all come down to the profile

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<v Speaker 6>of that corporate leader. If you're taking into somebody like

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<v Speaker 6>would need a security detail twenty four hours day, some

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<v Speaker 6>days a week. But first someone like the victim it

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<v Speaker 6>be more of managing his profile and taking an account

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<v Speaker 6>when he's going to be highly visible and ensuring he

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<v Speaker 6>has security during those points, and when he's less visible,

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<v Speaker 6>you can and cut back a bit. But it comes

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<v Speaker 6>down to risk and integation and understanding what risks are

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<v Speaker 6>out there and ensuring that you're all the information possible

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<v Speaker 6>that you can have to mitigate that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>And so where do you folks come into the process

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<v Speaker 2>when you're invited in by a company, did you basically

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<v Speaker 2>start from scratch or do you ask the company what

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<v Speaker 2>are they looking for? I assume that they should be

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<v Speaker 2>relying on your advice more than asking you exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they would like you to do. Tell me, tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>which is at more accurate.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, when you're come into a company, we try

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<v Speaker 6>to assess from talking one on one so we can

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<v Speaker 6>understand exactly what challenges they're facing, so we can come

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<v Speaker 6>up with a customized approach to mitigate whatever risk that

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<v Speaker 6>they're the firs seeing through one on one conversations, whether

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<v Speaker 6>it be talking to the principle or through surveys through

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<v Speaker 6>the company, but really just trying to understand what they're

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<v Speaker 6>they're facing and come up with a customized approach to

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<v Speaker 6>tell them achieve what a challenge they're facing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me talk about a risk for high

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<v Speaker 2>profile individuals who most of us have heard about recently,

450
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<v Speaker 2>and apparently there are some individuals have decided it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a great idea to break in the homes of professional athletes.

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<v Speaker 7>When those pro athletes, people like Patrick Mahomes or Kelsey

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<v Speaker 7>Travis Kelsey with the Kansas City Chiefs basketball played with

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<v Speaker 7>the Milwaukee Bucks to break into their homes, I guess

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Burrow's home was broken into as well, the quarterback

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<v Speaker 7>for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are making lots of money. Why are they

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking? Why is their organization, whether you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it the NFL in the case of Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey or professional sports their particular teams. Once this has happened, now,

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<v Speaker 2>why are they not smart enough to say, Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to hire at least a couple of local

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<v Speaker 2>police offices. I'm going to be away. You know, next

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<v Speaker 2>weekend we're going to be playing in San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 2>I live two thousand miles away. I don't want my

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<v Speaker 2>house broken into. Why are they not thinking this way?

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<v Speaker 6>It comes down the old adage of it's not going

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<v Speaker 6>to be me. People have gotten so used to live

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<v Speaker 6>in a public light, especially those famous athletes and where

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<v Speaker 6>it be actors or actresses that get used to living

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<v Speaker 6>in in the limelight. They think nothing's going to happen

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<v Speaker 6>to them and don't has any electant towards them. However,

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<v Speaker 6>you just gotta think that, you know, hey, if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to be a town, I gotta take those measures

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<v Speaker 6>in place. It's better to over overplan and over execute

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<v Speaker 6>then have to deal with the consequences when you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. When when I think of the pro athletes, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean obviously when the kids and the city chiefs are

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<v Speaker 2>on the road, everybody knows that the team in most

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<v Speaker 2>cases leaves that Saturday to play a game on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know they should. I just don't understand why

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<v Speaker 2>these athletes, highly compensated and by the way, advised by

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<v Speaker 2>professional sports agents, have not figured it out that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give your house keys to you know, someone who you

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<v Speaker 2>trust and who has the ability to deal with someone

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<v Speaker 2>coming through the door at two o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether it's your company or again local police department officials,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pay them. You got to pay them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just say, hey, do me a favorite sit

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<v Speaker 2>in my house, because you got to get them and

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<v Speaker 2>basically you hire them. As a detail. Have you had

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<v Speaker 2>your company has this spate of high profile break ins

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<v Speaker 2>at pro athletes homes? Has that generated some interest for

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<v Speaker 2>your company? Now?

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<v Speaker 6>Now as this time of anyone reaching out, let's say

496
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<v Speaker 6>that it just comes down to really complacency and then

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<v Speaker 6>not think thinking things through of like hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be on my house on high profile, publish everything on

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<v Speaker 6>social media, and everyone is going to know where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 6>And obviously those who want to take advantage of that

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<v Speaker 6>I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And by the way, it's just not pro athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, because you know there are other people who,

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<v Speaker 2>as you say on social media, they can be you know, lawyers,

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<v Speaker 2>they can be politicians. I mean it seems to me

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of people who in this society

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<v Speaker 2>need more protection.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with one hundred percent. Just like our

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<v Speaker 6>time of doing. If we're doing operations and special forces

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<v Speaker 6>and small small teams either be singleton operating by yourself

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<v Speaker 6>or a team of you know, three six people, you

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<v Speaker 6>got to think and start planning, Like everything that you

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<v Speaker 6>do is being watched and you've got to be ready

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<v Speaker 6>to react to the worst case circumstance. And people don't

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<v Speaker 6>think that way. They think everything's going to be good

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<v Speaker 6>and nothing bad it's going to happen to them, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's especially when the worst thing happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, last question, Eric, who is your clientele at

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<v Speaker 2>this point? I mean not by name, but who who

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<v Speaker 2>was seeking your services? And if people want to get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with you, just give me an idea about

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<v Speaker 2>who's your client tele and how they care.

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<v Speaker 6>So the touch Yeah, that's the way you can touch

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<v Speaker 6>with is either through a website Imperio, Dash Consulting dot com,

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<v Speaker 6>or reach out to me on LinkedIn with Garrett Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>With Imperial Consulting.

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<v Speaker 6>Clientele, you're looking at mid sized enterprises anywhere from ten

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<v Speaker 6>to one hundred employees with a rep you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>revenue anywhere from ten to one hundred million dollars plus

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<v Speaker 6>and revenue. We're really going to those folks that really

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<v Speaker 6>need to think about that. They need to put protection

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<v Speaker 6>in place before it hapstence because they have limited resources.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if something happens to Google, they have unlimited

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<v Speaker 6>resource to fix it afterwards. But the smaller companies in

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<v Speaker 6>the realms of about fifty to one hundred million dollars revenue,

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<v Speaker 6>that really hurts them when something happens in place, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because their revenue is paying to each eachpasode thing they

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<v Speaker 6>have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Eric enjoyed talking with you. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating conversation. Like to check back within a few months

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<v Speaker 2>and see if your business is growing. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it has to win this environment. I really know, but

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<v Speaker 2>particularly as a veteran owned and operated business Imperial Consulting, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate again your service, Appreciate your time tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I really appreciate having me on. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 6>what you do and keep getting good information out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure well, thanks Eric, we get back. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with an author's name is Richard Battle. Has recently

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<v Speaker 2>put into paper back. As I understand that a book

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<v Speaker 2>that has been well received Americans Who Made America eighteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century Birth of the Republic, Optims and Timeless Lessons from

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<v Speaker 2>Washington for Washington. I think this will be a fun

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Richard Battle on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 2>break here on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios. I'm WBZ News.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio delighted to be joined by author Richard Battle. Have

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<v Speaker 2>not read this book, but it's got some great reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on Amazon, Americans who made America, eighteenth century, birth

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<v Speaker 2>of the Republic, optimism, and timeless lessons from Washington for Washington. Richard.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't read this book, but I intend to welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Nightside and thank you for writing a book that

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<v Speaker 2>talks about this amazing group of Americans who happened to

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<v Speaker 2>be living at the same time and were so dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>to freeing this country from England. I haven't read your book,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hope that is what the story is that

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<v Speaker 2>is told.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, good evening, Dan, thank you so much for having us.

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<v Speaker 4>And let me first acknowledge today being the two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty first anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, because

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of the preliminary actions that led us

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<v Speaker 4>to our independence.

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<v Speaker 2>A dear friend of mine in Idaho today sent me

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<v Speaker 2>a text message. I had forgotten about it, but this

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine in Idaho remember it, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>how I knew that today was the day. And I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect they probably had a reenactment not far from where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting today. At least I hope they did tell

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<v Speaker 2>us how exte I mean it was that these folks

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<v Speaker 2>were able to do what they did. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you really see.

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<v Speaker 4>That volume, yeah, go ahead. This volume, Americans Who Made

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<v Speaker 4>America eighteenth century Birth of the Republic, is the first

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<v Speaker 4>of a four book series, and I'm basically celebrating eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll go back and pick up sixteenth and seventeenth

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<v Speaker 4>century Americans. I believe that it was the American do

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<v Speaker 4>spirit of individual rules who made this country what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't government by itself. And I was tired of

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<v Speaker 4>people telling us what we couldn't do in government, telling

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<v Speaker 4>us we could only do things they would let us do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wanted to celebrate those heroes from before, some

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<v Speaker 4>you'll know and some you want, because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>inspire people to pursue their dreams and RelA like that

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<v Speaker 4>America can do spirit in themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, too, is that the Americans of the

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<v Speaker 2>late eighteenth century, which obviously encompassed the period of time

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<v Speaker 2>when when you know, from again the Tea Party through

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<v Speaker 2>the Declaration of Independence, and the writing of the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>of the formation of a formal government. They were not

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<v Speaker 2>perfect individuals. They were men who owned slaves, but they

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<v Speaker 2>they were the men of their time. And the focus

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<v Speaker 2>has not been on what they achieved and what they

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished and what they set in motion, but it has

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<v Speaker 2>it has been, you know, let's rip apart the things

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<v Speaker 2>that they did, which which will obviously not good things.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you address that issue of Jefferson owned slaves,

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<v Speaker 2>Washington on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you're correct. And the founders recognized they

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<v Speaker 4>were not perfect. They're not perfect. The people between them

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<v Speaker 4>and us weren't perfect, were not perfect perfect. The people

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<v Speaker 4>following us will not be perfect. And that's why they

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<v Speaker 4>knew that they needed to establish a government to restrain

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<v Speaker 4>those imperfections of people. So there were checks and balances

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<v Speaker 4>and a balance of power to keep any one person

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<v Speaker 4>or one group from having too much power. And the

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<v Speaker 4>thing that amazed me, and I hadn't really thought of

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<v Speaker 4>it before I was doing the research on this volume,

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<v Speaker 4>was how all of the signers and the Founders and

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<v Speaker 4>the patriots they put aside their individual different is to

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<v Speaker 4>write the Declaration right, the Constitution, win the Revolutionary War,

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<v Speaker 4>and they did all of that, and then once everything

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<v Speaker 4>was settled, then they all started pursuing their individual interest again.

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<v Speaker 4>But for them to sacrifice those interests for such a

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<v Speaker 4>long period in order to give us our country was

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<v Speaker 4>a monumental feat.

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<v Speaker 2>And what people don't realize is that they literally put

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<v Speaker 2>their lives on the line. I mean, jo it was.

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<v Speaker 2>This could have ended pretty badly for all of these

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<v Speaker 2>people who we revere, Adams and Jefferson and Madison and

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<v Speaker 2>Monroe in Washington and all of them, all of them

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<v Speaker 2>could have been easily hung by their necks until dead

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<v Speaker 2>if the British forces had prevailed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yes, that's exactly correct. When the fifty sixth signers

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<v Speaker 4>signed the declaration, there were death warrants put out for

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<v Speaker 4>them from King George. They all suffered, some went broke,

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<v Speaker 4>some had their wives killed, some had sons killed. They

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<v Speaker 4>all suffered, but none of them betrayed the pledge they

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<v Speaker 4>made to each other, which I think was a tremendous

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<v Speaker 4>feat at that time. And there's one story I tell

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<v Speaker 4>of a woman in there who I'd never heard of,

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<v Speaker 4>named Mary Catherine Goddard, and her name was on the

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<v Speaker 4>Goddard broadside first printing of the declaration with the signatures,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm shortening the story, but she had a printing

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<v Speaker 4>company and normally would put on their printed by M. K. Goddard,

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<v Speaker 4>but she had the courage to write on there printed

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<v Speaker 4>by Mary Catherine Goddard, on that Declaration of Independence. So

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<v Speaker 4>she voluntarily put her name on a death warrant as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And the courage it took for her to do that,

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<v Speaker 4>and the absolute need for us to recognize and appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>and honor her for what she did, as well as

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<v Speaker 4>so many people beyond the forty that I highlight in

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<v Speaker 4>the Americans who made America.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you get involved in Are you a historian

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<v Speaker 2>by trade? How'd you or you somebody who came to

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<v Speaker 2>love this ERAa of history?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Well, I love history, always have very well read.

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<v Speaker 4>I love to read. I love to study history from

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<v Speaker 4>the Revolutionary War through World War two and beyond. And

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<v Speaker 4>again I was sick and tired of people telling us

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<v Speaker 4>that what we couldn't do, and I wrote a a

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<v Speaker 4>essay and I suggested building a hall of fame for

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<v Speaker 4>the people with the American do spirit. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>found out that there was one in New York for

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<v Speaker 4>Great Americans, and I thought, well, heck, I never even

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<v Speaker 4>heard of it. And so then I got the inspiration,

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<v Speaker 4>why build a museum for people that very few people

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<v Speaker 4>go to? Why not have a museum that can go

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<v Speaker 4>to people? So the volume celebrates people who are worthy

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<v Speaker 4>of Hall of Fame selection.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is great. So the this is the paperback

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<v Speaker 2>which has now been issued correct as I understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>When was? When was?

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<v Speaker 4>The book? The Americans Who Made America is available in paperback,

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<v Speaker 4>kindle and audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Version easily through I assume Amazon or who whomever else

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<v Speaker 2>where people normally get their books.

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<v Speaker 4>That book and all my others are at Amazon and

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<v Speaker 4>for the kendles and audios as well. Richard Battle dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>You can get any of the eleven books I've written,

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<v Speaker 4>all our signs there as well and other bookstores.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, and how did you become an author? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean very I think they can write.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we don't have time for me to give the

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<v Speaker 4>whole story, but I'll tell you that my English teachers

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<v Speaker 4>in high school never dreamed I'd read a book, and

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<v Speaker 4>I never dreamed i'd write one. And now I've written

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<v Speaker 4>eleven and I'm more of a speaker, and the writing

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<v Speaker 4>devolved off the speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's great, Richard Battle, thank you very much. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wonderful the time that you've taken to write this book,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully people will read it and maybe give it

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<v Speaker 2>to their children and their relatives as a Christmas present.

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<v Speaker 2>Americans who made America, eighteenth century, birth of the Republic,

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<v Speaker 2>optimism and timeless lessons from Washington for Washington. Richard Battle,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much for your time tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, God blessed America, and Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>And merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back after the nine o'clock news, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be talking with a very interesting person who's

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, who's an investigative journalist. He also

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<v Speaker 2>has a long career in technology. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about drones over six states now, including Massachusetts. They won't

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<v Speaker 2>tell us what they are. Maybe they don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know which scares me worse. Back on nights side,

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<v Speaker 2>right after the nine