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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Booinsider Dick Abriel with you on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday, as we wrap up the week, of course

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<v Speaker 1>talking football, baseball, basketball, as generally we usually do this

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<v Speaker 1>time here, there's a lot of overlap. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the football off season, basketball wrapping up with the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>baseball you know is happening. The College World Series will

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up this weekend. But there is Kentucky News UK

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<v Speaker 1>news on both the basketball and the football fronts. Good

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<v Speaker 1>news this, this is such a great coincidence. We had

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Moberley on the show last night. I did such

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<v Speaker 1>a great job talking about Jasper Johnson, who will it

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<v Speaker 1>now is a wildcat, of course, but before he starts

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<v Speaker 1>playing as a wildcat, he's got a little more work

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Perhaps he's trying to make the USA Under

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen World Cup team. He has made the penultimate cut.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it all the way to the list of

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen finalists. They only keep twelve, so his dream is

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<v Speaker 1>still alive of playing for the USA Under nineteen World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup team. That's the team that will play in the

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<v Speaker 1>FOEBA Tournament in Lusanne, Switzerland, at the end of June

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<v Speaker 1>through July sixth. Malachi Moreno trying out and apparently did

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<v Speaker 1>very well, but suffered a minor injury, so he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shut things down. Mark Pope's out there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>working with the national team, at least he was for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. He's back now, but Malachi Moreno a minor injury.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not saying what it was, but he's done so

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have a chance to heal and rest up and

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for the upcoming season. But apparently Moreno was

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<v Speaker 1>showing up extremely well in these tryouts, So that's something

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<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky fans to be excited about, as if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't already have a lot to be excited about, including

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<v Speaker 1>comes news that UK will host a multi team event

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<v Speaker 1>at rupp Aerna. Chris Fisher writing about it on two

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven sports dot com, the Cats Pulse site.

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<v Speaker 1>He is quoting college basketball analyst Roco Miller, who said

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<v Speaker 1>the multi team Event or MTE, of course you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have an acronym, will feature feature Valparaizo and Eastern Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>The dates are to be determined, but that should, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris, wrap up UK's non conference schedule. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the exhibitions against Purdue and Georgetown. You got Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State and a Champions Classic, North Carolina in the

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<v Speaker 1>acc SEC Challenge, Gonzaga and Nashville, Indiana back on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>and Saint John's in the CBS Classic. Mark Pope wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a tough schedule. Mark Pope gets what he wanted. This

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<v Speaker 1>will severely test his team, but wild can't stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>They should win most of those games, right, which would

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<v Speaker 1>put them in a great position or a good seed

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<v Speaker 1>in the nca Tournament. Well, that's the good news for

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcat fans. Of course, Kentucky football fans have to be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned right now with the de commitment of Jarvis Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened after we had posted the show yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was the only signee, the only commit rather from

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Kentucky. So far, not a huge class

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<v Speaker 1>right now for UK recruiters, but he was the first.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Paduca Tillman, He's an Alignman, He's a four star.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not good obviously, and he has been recruited

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, yes by Louisville as well as Tennessee, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State, North Carolina, South Carolina, oh Miss Vandy, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was chiefly recruited by Vince Merriw, so don't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if he ends up wearing red right now. As

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<v Speaker 1>we said, it is a modest recruiting class for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>oh six without a single player now from Kentucky or Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see how that plays. Out of the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten players per two four seven in the Commonwealth, five

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<v Speaker 1>are committed to Louisville, one to Indiana, and one to

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<v Speaker 1>Western Kentucky. Still a little early, and of course teams

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<v Speaker 1>are moving much more deliberately these days because of the

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<v Speaker 1>portal in Kentucky of late, as you know, has gone

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<v Speaker 1>heavily into the portal. But they can't lose too many

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<v Speaker 1>more of those battles, especially when it comes to recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>kids in their own backyard. NBA Playoffs last night, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a game seven. Nothing better than a game seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana destroyed Oklahoma City. A lot of people thought the

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<v Speaker 1>thunder would put him away last night, that Aliburton just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go, couldn't be himself. Well he wasn't totally himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He had fourteen points in twenty three minutes. But the Pacers,

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<v Speaker 1>led by thirty at the end of the third quarter

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<v Speaker 1>thirty points. They outscored OKC thirty six to eighteen. In

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<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, they clamped down shake Gilgess Alexander. He

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<v Speaker 1>played thirty one minutes at twenty one points, only two assists,

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<v Speaker 1>eight turnovers. That's a career high for him in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>So they cut off the head last night and they

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<v Speaker 1>reaped the benefits. And now this goes Game seven in OKC.

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<v Speaker 1>Caseon Wallace, former Wildcat, played fourteen minutes, had two points,

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<v Speaker 1>and again he's more about defense, but couldn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>done last night. Jalen Williams had forty the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen last night in twenty seven minutes. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>disaster for Oklahoma City. Couldn't have worked that better for Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>So now winner take oh. Could another former ABA team

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<v Speaker 1>win an NBA championship? San Antonio did it? Can Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>do it? And added trophy to those three tree ABA

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<v Speaker 1>championship trophies, one of which I know came at the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of our Kentucky colonels. That's why I'm rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>ok SEE, not as much well SJSG. I want Shay

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<v Speaker 1>Gilders Alexander to get himself a trophy, to get himself

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<v Speaker 1>a championship. He's the league MVP. But of course if

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<v Speaker 1>Halliburton leads the Pacers to a championship, then people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, oh, this should have been Halliburton, not along.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you follow the NBA, you know that at

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<v Speaker 1>one point there was a survey. I saw this and

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<v Speaker 1>just briefly paid attention to it that Halliburton was rated

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<v Speaker 1>the most overrated player in the NBA. Well, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>an interview I think it was with Brian Windhorst on

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<v Speaker 1>twenty Corneizer's show where only a fraction of the players

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<v Speaker 1>surveyed in the league. There, I think only like two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty something players in the NBA in less

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<v Speaker 1>than half responded and only twenty something listed Halliburton and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest was divided among many other players. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about less than ten percent of the players in

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<v Speaker 1>the league at least per that survey. Really believe that

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who watches him will tell you it's bogus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying he deserve the honor the MVP on her

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<v Speaker 1>over Shay Gilders Alexander. I do believe SGA bias Aside

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<v Speaker 1>should have won it, and he did. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>is able to rally the Pacers to a win over

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<v Speaker 1>Okac in Game seven on the road, then the debate

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<v Speaker 1>will go on forever. But he's good enough to play

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We can tell you that. One other note

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, you saw this that the Lakers were

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<v Speaker 1>sold for ten billion dollars. You know, these owners say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't pay dec I salaries. Well they can in

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<v Speaker 1>LA and nobody disputed that. But some of the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>and response around the league has been interesting in that

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying, well, now with another gazillionaire buying the team,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be run more. The Lakers as a team

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<v Speaker 1>can be run more like a business. What does that mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the Lakers in terms of the bus family, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their sole source of income. What they make on

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers goes back into the team. It's not part

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<v Speaker 1>of a portfolio as it is for virtually every other team,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily in pro sports. And that means that if they

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<v Speaker 1>make money, they can plow it back into facilities and

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<v Speaker 1>contracts and things like that, Whereas if the team is

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<v Speaker 1>part of a huge profile, then revenue from other elements

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<v Speaker 1>of the portfolio can help support the team. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea this was going on. The advantage, how does

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<v Speaker 1>it work? Well, they make zillions of dollars off their

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<v Speaker 1>TV revenue their contract with Spectrum. That package pays the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers three billion with a b over twenty years, a

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<v Speaker 1>deal that began in twenty twelve. That's my far the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest deal in the NBA. But now with a group

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<v Speaker 1>that has deeper pockets behind the Lakers, you may see

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<v Speaker 1>a real change in the way that outfit's run. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of Laker fans around here. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk football UK and Eku on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the break here on six thirty WLP. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Moon Sider. Coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, Nick MinJe on, the head UK baseball coach,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll join us a little bit later on. Well, here

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<v Speaker 1>from a young man who is putting together a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>on my broadcast brother, Doug Flynn. So that's coming up. Also, Heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>Fools and Flakes. I wanted to direct your attention to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a documentary. It's basically a thirty minute piece

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<v Speaker 1>produced by the Buffalo Bills on Ray Davis, former Wildcat,

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<v Speaker 1>played just the one year two years back, but since

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<v Speaker 1>then and during that point, and I think it really

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<v Speaker 1>here started with Daryl Bird's great piece in the cast

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<v Speaker 1>Balls that kind of got the nation looking at Ray Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask me, I give Daryl all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>credit on that, the fact that Ray was essentially he wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technically homeless, but was just in trouble and

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<v Speaker 1>was taken in by a couple. And the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's playing prep school football, he's playing college football.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Kentucky he's now in the pros, had a

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<v Speaker 1>great first year with the Buffalo Bills, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>honored recently in San Francisco by the Boys and Girls

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<v Speaker 1>Club of San Francisco, which has been a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of his life. And there's a thirty minute special on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Just type in Ray Davis and it'll pop up. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Buffalo Bills Beyond Blue and Red, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really well done. As this person who's thrown together some

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries and I mean that liter eight times working on

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<v Speaker 1>local TV, when you know, with one hand you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>the newscast together with another you're working on a documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I really envy these outfits that can you hire multiple people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've had a chance to do that a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times. It spoils you and take a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time and put a really nice piece together, and they

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<v Speaker 1>did this. It's really really well done, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it even more special the fact that he played here

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<v Speaker 1>for a year and we got to know him, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>we He talked a lot to the media, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do that when he's done. I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>he wants a career in media when he's done. He

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<v Speaker 1>majored in communications and he'll be good at it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that he kind of wanted to slow things

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<v Speaker 1>down on talking about himself, but you know, he was,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, honored out there in his home base

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<v Speaker 1>of San Francisco. And the piece was really well done.

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<v Speaker 1>So just type in go to YouTube, type in Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Davis and it will pop up. While we're on the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading Big Blue review, not the UK Big Blue,

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<v Speaker 1>but the New York Football Giants, and the writer was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at following Mini came going into camp, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, who's gonna make it, who's not? And as

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect. He's got would Dale Robinson safely on

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<v Speaker 1>the team as a slot back and Drew Phillips, the

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<v Speaker 1>former Wildcat, as a defensive back. So I try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on the ex Wildcats. One other NFL note,

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<v Speaker 1>Shador Sanders, we told you yesterday cited for driving one

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<v Speaker 1>on one in a sixty That's a pretty hipty speeding ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>That was actually the second ticket of the month. That

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<v Speaker 1>again doing ninety one and a sixty five, and he

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<v Speaker 1>old multimillionaires in big vehicles shout or Sanders driving a

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<v Speaker 1>No amount of money will, no amunt of fines, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Please slow it down, guys, please well while we're tucking football.

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<v Speaker 1>Do to help, and so much of that, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to come up and interview in that setting,

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<v Speaker 1>towards Roy Kidd and his and his great wife Sue

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<v Speaker 1>and his family. You know, I worked with his son Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they understand. You know, you talk about Mark

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<v Speaker 3>when I called and asked him, he said, let me

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple of weeks. He looked at his calendar

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<v Speaker 3>and told me, right then, I'm in. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it speaks volume the same thing Mark did to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>last year, and that just helps us so much. It

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<v Speaker 3>helps our players. We're not the school that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay them one hundred grand or two hundred grand or

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they know that, and so that they really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy helping us because they know these kids is helping

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<v Speaker 3>them pay their rent, helping them, you know, maybe get

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<v Speaker 3>It just speaks volumes for how much they care about

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<v Speaker 1>My thanks to my old employer, WKYT for helping me

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<v Speaker 1>with that audio, Brian Mile and Steve Moss helping to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you. Coming up next, UK baseball coach

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Menngione never a dull moment. He's still got kids

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<v Speaker 1>coming through the portal, he's got camps coming up, he's

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<v Speaker 1>working ahead to next year, obviously never ending on the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming season. Plus we'll learn more about a documentary upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>about our broadcast brother Doug Flynn, part of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Red Machine. He was the glue. Well always called him

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<v Speaker 1>the glue because when he left, you know, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fell apart. That's next on six thirty WLAP Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue Starter. Joining us down our

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity Odeline is UK baseball coach Nick Menngione coach. This

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<v Speaker 1>time last year, everybody was celebrating a trip to the

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<v Speaker 1>College World Series for the Wildcats, and it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people Nick have talked to me about that

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<v Speaker 1>really for the last year or so about how much

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<v Speaker 1>Series happening now there's more awareness for it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be there this year. Obviously you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there every year. But you got the big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue nation thinking about Omaha more and more. That's got

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<v Speaker 4>Big one, A big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that it hasn't stopped.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean literally this week heard from the More

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<v Speaker 5>their family. And you've heard me say that a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, that's one cool thing about college athletics

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<v Speaker 5>is not only do you have the opportunity to give

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<v Speaker 5>to do it. They're awesome fan base. So yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, I think some of them were

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<v Speaker 5>probably thankful that we didn't go two years in a

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<v Speaker 4>So they need to be planning for next year.

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<v Speaker 5>I want them to be thinking and hoping that the

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<v Speaker 5>Cats are there, you know, every year. But obviously the

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<v Speaker 5>summer is up and rolling and feels like it never stops.

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<v Speaker 5>But people talking about Omahon Lessington good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. And that's the thing is, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>so many years it seemed like just an impossibility like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and now people know that it can happen for Kentucky, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And you know it's you know, I told our

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<v Speaker 5>were fortunate enough to make our third straight, as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, at that point, I told him, your

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<v Speaker 5>and that's how close it is. And for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but once you get to that postseason, your five wins,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's closer than you think. And for some people,

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<v Speaker 5>to your point, they just feel like that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>No, because now we witnessed it, and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I asked you, I kind of led you

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<v Speaker 1>tournament press conferences. But I had seen you on actually

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<v Speaker 1>during the SEC tournament with Paul Fenbaum, and he told

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<v Speaker 1>him how you would crunch the numbers and talked about

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<v Speaker 1>all the decisions, all the pitches, all the moments in

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<v Speaker 1>these games. And it's funny I had a similar conversation

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<v Speaker 1>many years ago with Gary Henderson just about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was fascinated by that. And then you you really

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<v Speaker 1>margins for error and things like that. You're people need

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<v Speaker 1>to understand you're a lot closer than you'd think you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right, and you know, to go over those

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<v Speaker 5>exact numbers probably one more time. For the thing listening is,

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<v Speaker 5>throws one hundred and fifty four pitches. So if each

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<v Speaker 5>team averages one hundred fifty four pitches on each side,

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<v Speaker 5>that's about three hundred and eight moments in one baseball game, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And it takes us sometimes three hours to get through

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<v Speaker 5>those three hundred and eight moments, right. But so for us,

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<v Speaker 5>we threw a little bit more than that. But there

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<v Speaker 5>was five thousand, six hundred and sixty eight moments in

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<v Speaker 5>our college baseball season. That was how many like in

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<v Speaker 5>our SEC I'm sorry, thirty SEC schedule, Yeah, thirty game

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<v Speaker 5>eight moments. So kind of like in football, there's snaps.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are plays, right, those are there are plays we

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<v Speaker 5>had an opportunity for in our league. Well, when you

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<v Speaker 5>boil it down, we are nine plays away from being

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, it's amazing, and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Can tell you all of them, but I'm sure don't

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<v Speaker 5>let me relive those, Okay, Dick, all right, but uh

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<v Speaker 5>yeah I could. But I say all that because if

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<v Speaker 4>The first time in school history.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're also five plays away for winning four more

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<v Speaker 5>fifty series and only Texas won eight SEC series.

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<v Speaker 5>That means we would have been hosting another regional YEP

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<v Speaker 5>a national seed for the second straight year. And as

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that's the past. The Omaha the easiest pass YEP.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's nine plays from back to back SEC champions,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's five plays away from being having four more

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<v Speaker 5>SEC wins. Theories win, theories win, not just win series win,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're a national seat. So it's that close. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to try to teach your student athletes that

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<v Speaker 5>every year and to get them to understand like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>literally it could be this pitch like this one right here,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to where it's like you're not putting pressure

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<v Speaker 5>it down to that many plays. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>in and win, jumps up and makes the College World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to think that that's that's had a positive

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<v Speaker 5>Right you're do and you got to be old. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I think they had three five fifty year seniors in

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<v Speaker 5>So two years ago, two years ago when we went,

418
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<v Speaker 5>there were four SEC teams and four ACC teams, right,

419
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<v Speaker 5>that was the that was the eighth in Omaha. Well,

420
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<v Speaker 5>this year the SEC, once again we had two teams,

421
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<v Speaker 5>which is twice as many as everybody else because every

422
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<v Speaker 5>other conference, every other team that was there were just

423
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<v Speaker 5>from individual conferences.

424
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<v Speaker 4>There was no true you know, like last year it

425
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<v Speaker 4>was the a.

426
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<v Speaker 5>SEC VERSUT SEC Challenge in Omaha. Right, So but now

427
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<v Speaker 5>that's so these two teams that made it from our conference, Dick,

428
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<v Speaker 5>that's just there's been six teams in the SEC to

429
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<v Speaker 5>make it to the Collegewal Series the last two year,

430
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.519
<v Speaker 5>six different teams. Yeah, different teams, no repeat trip. But

431
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<v Speaker 5>that's yeah, that's the power of our league.

432
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<v Speaker 1>You know that. It was fun watching Murray State and

433
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<v Speaker 1>Omaha kind of adopted the Racers and it reminded me

434
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<v Speaker 1>of you guys last year. And you made the pitch

435
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.799
<v Speaker 1>when you first got there to the fans if you

436
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>want to root for somebody, because people love the way

437
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 1>your team played that scrapped and fought, Uh so that

438
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:28.559
<v Speaker 1>I kind of got a kick out of that, didn't you.

439
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<v Speaker 5>We got some great people in the state of Kentucky

440
00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:36.079
<v Speaker 5>and people that love, love to root for, you know,

441
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 5>first timers, and so this was obviously two programs that

442
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 5>had made it for the first time, which was exciting.

443
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's a busy time. Well every day is

444
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<v Speaker 1>busy for you. But the story right now is the

445
00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>upcoming team. A lot of people have asked me again,

446
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the interest in your program, and they've they've

447
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<v Speaker 1>kept an eye on the portal. You've added a lot

448
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<v Speaker 1>of pitching, mostly right handed. You signed left handers. First

449
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<v Speaker 1>of all, are you done with the portal?

450
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<v Speaker 4>Or?

451
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<v Speaker 1>I guess does the door ever close?

452
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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

453
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<v Speaker 5>Good question, Yeah it does close, you know, Dick, You

454
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<v Speaker 5>know that what makes our jobs so hard is the

455
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<v Speaker 5>Major League Draft. And the Major League Draft is until July.

456
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<v Speaker 5>So it's like if you told me I knew who

457
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<v Speaker 5>was coming back and who was getting drafted and who

458
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<v Speaker 5>wasn't getting drafted, then it'd be a lot easier for

459
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<v Speaker 5>me to be like, yes, you know, coach vinjil will

460
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<v Speaker 5>be able to sleep with both eyes closed instead of

461
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<v Speaker 5>one eye opened. Like, but just because we don't know

462
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<v Speaker 5>what's gonna happen with the draft. I mean I just

463
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<v Speaker 5>off the phone with an agent here just a couple

464
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<v Speaker 5>of minutes ago, just talking to him about his client,

465
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 5>one of our players, and just figuring out, like what's

466
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<v Speaker 5>going to happen there. So it just it's never ending,

467
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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't stop. I would tell you that once the

468
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<v Speaker 5>draft finishes and the dust settles and we figure out

469
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<v Speaker 5>who's coming and who's not, we'll have a lot idea,

470
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<v Speaker 5>which is kind of scary, but we won't know that

471
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<v Speaker 5>until August.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, UK head baseball coach Nick Minjeon is my guest.

473
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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk more baseball with the coach

474
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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break here on six

475
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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Boon Sider Dick

476
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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel with you on a Friday talking to UK head

477
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<v Speaker 1>baseball coach Nick Minione, whose team have played in a

478
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<v Speaker 1>regional and was just a few moments away from getting

479
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>back to a Super regional, but has to kind of

480
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<v Speaker 1>rebuild a team, just like virtually every coach in America

481
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<v Speaker 1>right now. And Nick, I think back to when we

482
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 1>you and I joke around about this every now and

483
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.279
<v Speaker 1>then about how when you were a young assistant coach

484
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>here it was an exciting time in your life. But man,

485
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 1>college baseball in terms of the duties and responsibilities of

486
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a head coach have changed so much since then. The

487
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>rules have changed, the landscape has changed. I know you

488
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>do your job with great passion, but did you ever foresee,

489
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<v Speaker 1>for instance, when you were a head coach having to

490
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<v Speaker 1>speak to agents, uh, you know, for players and stuff

491
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, uh, that's something that the guys

492
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>who coached you never had to deal with, or deal

493
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<v Speaker 1>with on a minimal level.

494
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<v Speaker 5>You know, the agents they were around then, So I

495
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 5>figured that, But I didn't know we would be talking

496
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 5>to agents about nil deals and rev share dollars. And

497
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<v Speaker 5>I mean I had no idea. I would have never,

498
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<v Speaker 5>in my wildest dreams ever thought of that. Right, Typically,

499
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 5>you were talking to the agents back then, or you know, advisors.

500
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 5>They were called advisors, right, and I guess that's still

501
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 5>what they.

502
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 4>Might be called.

503
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 5>But you're talking to advisors about you know, the draft

504
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 5>and what they're considering, you know, things like that. But

505
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<v Speaker 5>never in my wildest dreams about having to talk to

506
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:51.200
<v Speaker 5>what we talked to them about.

507
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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, you also have to worry about obviously, kids

508
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 1>that you might lose to other teams. I don't know

509
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>poaching is the right word, but you know, transferring, I know,

510
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 1>but I was talking to a friend of mine who

511
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>was worried that somebody's gonna sweep in and and and

512
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 1>pluck Tyler Bell off your team. How much do you

513
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>worry about your current roster, maybe not going pro but

514
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 1>getting a better offer from somewhere else.

515
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Unfortunately that that that's happening is against the rules

516
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 6>and that shouldn't be done. But unfortunately in some areas

517
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 6>of college baseball, you know that that does take place. Yeah,

518
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 6>we just we just try to do the best we

519
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 6>can at developing relationships with our players and treating them

520
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 6>like man and doing what's in the best interest of

521
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.400
<v Speaker 6>the baseball program and of course them.

522
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<v Speaker 5>And so you know, after you do that, you can

523
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 5>do relationship all you can do. Man, it's built on

524
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 5>trust and so I uh, yeah, Unfortunately that's a part

525
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 5>of college athletic Yep. We know that also.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Will looking back at your your roster, at your season

527
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you've thought about this, but a lot

528
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky fans as well. When you take the field

529
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>this coming season behind the plate, you're going to be

530
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>missing a guy who's spent a lot of time back

531
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 1>there in Devin burks Uh. And I know you guys

532
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>will be friends forever, but what are your thoughts on

533
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 1>on fielding a team for the first time in forever

534
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>without number seven back there?

535
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 5>Man, I'll tell you what I told our team this.

536
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 5>I was scared to death thinking about that.

537
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that guy.

538
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, what a winner. Yeah, what a winner?

539
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know.

540
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 5>And I told a team at the end of the

541
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 5>year because you know, you know, Ryan Schwartz had come

542
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 5>in here as a catcher and you know, did so

543
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 5>good in the outfield. So we're counting on him to

544
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 5>be in the outfield for us, and he can obviously

545
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 5>catch as well if we need it. But at the time,

546
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 5>like we didn't have We weren't returning a primary catcher

547
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 5>on our roskeet right right. Since then, we've got come

548
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 5>in from a gentleman out of the transfer portal. But

549
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, at that time I told it to him.

550
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 5>I was like, man, I'm scared it down. I don't

551
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 5>know who's gonna catch, because you know, obviously he was

552
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 5>gone and obviously with rath kelty A. You know, he

553
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 5>was gone, but for Devon, I mean, we just had

554
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 5>three of the greatest years in school history, and Devin

555
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 5>was the guy that squatted back behind that plan.

556
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

557
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he gave us everything he had.

558
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>His fingerprints are all over these these seasons and oh,

559
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, he has come through at times with big

560
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>bass hits, but you never failed to mention the way

561
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>he handles pitchers, and pitchers have told us that as well.

562
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Do you. I've got to think you look for that

563
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're recruiting, But it's it's kind of

564
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>an intangible, isn't it.

565
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's really difficult, really really difficult to find somebody

566
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 5>with that leader. Yeah, and you know, John Maxwell's best

567
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 5>defined leadership as influenced. Leadership is influenced, and that's what

568
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 5>Devin Burks had a tremendous amount of influence on so

569
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 5>many people and so many things. So obviously we're not

570
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 5>going to try to replace him and try to find

571
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 5>the next Devin Berks. I think one of the things

572
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 5>we do really well at Kentucky is we find the

573
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 5>right guys that are the right people, and we allow

574
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 5>them to be the best versions of themselves. So our

575
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.720
<v Speaker 5>next patcher doesn't need to be like Devin Burks. He

576
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 5>needs to be the best version of himself. There are

577
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 5>characteristics and attributes that Devin possesses that, boy, it would

578
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 5>be nice if this person does whoever that is, we

579
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 5>feel like, you know, we're going to have to try

580
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 5>to magnify those gifts that they've given. But at the

581
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 5>same time, it's like we were not replacing Devin Burks.

582
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 5>We're going to have the next guy be the best

583
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 5>version of himself. If he could have, you know, those

584
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 5>leadership qualities, who boy, we'd be we'd be in a

585
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 5>really good place. And we feel good about the guys

586
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 5>that we do have that can potentially do that so well.

587
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Everybody who follows baseball knows that you've got to be

588
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 1>strong up the middle. And right now it looks as

589
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>though you've got Luke Lawrence coming back at second base

590
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>right along with Tyler, and if that works out that

591
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that's just another year Nick where you've had one of

592
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the best infield middle infield combos in the conference, if

593
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>not the country. So that's got to make you sleep

594
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better at night, am I right?

595
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right? I mean being strung up the middle

596
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 5>is super important, and we have two guys coming back

597
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 5>with a lot of starts, I mean underneath the belt,

598
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 5>a lot of starts. And I think anytime you can,

599
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 5>anytime you can return a team that has that many starts,

600
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.440
<v Speaker 5>whether it's positionally or on the mound, you as a coach,

601
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 5>you feel better about your chances of maybe being able

602
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 5>to perform at a really high level. And you have

603
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 5>to be good up the middle. And Kark Frank Lapff

604
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 5>never won a championship without a championship catcher. But also

605
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 5>I think you could also say that about the shortstop position. Yeah,

606
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>it is just absolutely crucial. And obviously we got a

607
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 5>great one coming back that we're super excited about.

608
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<v Speaker 1>He was so much fun to watch man. He was

609
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>worth the price of admission on many occasions. But to

610
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that end, I also felt like with some big spikes

611
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 1>to fill that, Luke Lawrence defensively did an incredible job

612
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 1>stepping in for Petre, who became a real fan favorite

613
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons. But you know, once Luke's bat came

614
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 1>around and his defense never did Wayne. I mean, you know,

615
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>he made great plays at second base.

616
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<v Speaker 5>Sure dead and you know Luke would tell you that

617
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 5>same thing. At the event of your fall meeting, we

618
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<v Speaker 5>asked them, Luke, what are some things you've gotten better

619
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 5>at walked us through this year? And that was the

620
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 5>first thing he mentioned was his defense, Really not how

621
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 5>much better he got defensively, And you know you know this,

622
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 5>but playing next you look over to your right and

623
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 5>you got that guy standing over there and watching him,

624
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, you know, you're only forced to, you know,

625
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 5>step up your game. And he certainly did that, and

626
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 5>I thought they sharpened each other. I think he would

627
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 5>tell you that Luke made him better too. So they

628
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<v Speaker 5>were great for each other and the closest of friends.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was kind of neat and that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And all I know is my broadcast partner, mister Doug Flynn,

631
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<v Speaker 1>liked a lot what he saw from those guys, and

632
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<v Speaker 1>he and he chatted with him through the year, as

633
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<v Speaker 1>you know, and gave him a couple of tips here

634
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<v Speaker 1>and there. So when he's excited about middle infielders, everybody

635
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<v Speaker 1>should be excited, right.

636
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I see him all the time. You see that.

637
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<v Speaker 4>Let me know, like, well, Nick, I just feel bad,

638
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 4>don't uh huh. You're the goal glover.

639
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Mister Doug you help us, Like, what a special guy.

640
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's fun. He's fun to work with. A couple

641
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<v Speaker 1>of minutes slept with Nick Minsi and UK's head baseball coach.

642
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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny because when we come to the ballpark,

643
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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's we look at the wind and

644
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're mister weather. Every coach knows about weather

645
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But what's what's been great about

646
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky baseball the last several years is you know, you

647
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<v Speaker 1>know you're going to see a good game. You know

648
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you're going to see quality baseball, and Central Kentucky is

649
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>really caught on. I think, uh and you you never

650
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<v Speaker 1>failed to mention the fans, the crowd. And I love

651
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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, well, god, I watched Arkansas kids after

652
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that heartbreaking loss Wednesday night signing autographs for the kids

653
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<v Speaker 1>in Omaha. So I think it's great the way your

654
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>kids never miss an autograph opportunity, you know, after a

655
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<v Speaker 1>ball game, win or lose. And that's not something you

656
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>guys coach them up on. They just love doing it. Right.

657
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<v Speaker 5>You know, you win with people, Yeah, you absolutely win

658
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 5>with people. That's why we're still thorough and the recruiting

659
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 5>process and really the evaluation process of our guys, because

660
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 5>it all matters. And I think we just wrapped up

661
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 5>one of our youth summer camps. We do first through

662
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 5>seventh grade, and we had over one hundred kids here

663
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<v Speaker 5>this week, and guy's got a chance that the amount

664
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<v Speaker 5>of positive feedback that I've gotten for the parents about

665
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 5>just the way our players conducted themselves, the way they

666
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<v Speaker 5>stuck around.

667
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 4>Literally so the very.

668
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 5>Last kid had left camp, they signed every autograph, they

669
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 5>signed every shirt. Some guys even had them signing their bats.

670
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 5>Now you're like autographing their metal bats and you know,

671
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 5>don't want to sign the barrel because you wanted to

672
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 5>hit the barrel and the autograph gets washed away. But yeah,

673
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean just the way our guys conduct themselves.

674
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean that team last year, we have three point

675
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 4>four to nine team.

676
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 5>GPA last bring Wow, like these guys. I mean we

677
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 5>had twelve guys get a four point zero in the spring.

678
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 5>We had seven with a three eight or higher. So

679
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 5>they just continue to and you know, we talk about

680
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 5>the student of person the player all the time, but

681
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 5>you win with people, and we've done a great job

682
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 5>bringing in great people and you know, just to hear

683
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 5>you even recognize that. I mean, you get a chance

684
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 5>to be around them, you get a.

685
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Chance to see him.

686
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 5>You've been on the road with us, like you see

687
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 5>how these guys interact. And it's not just when the

688
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 5>cameras on them, it's right really when the camera's off

689
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 5>of them. And I'm proud of our guys from that standpoint,

690
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 5>just really proud. And it's why when we have our

691
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 5>end of year team meeting, there's so many tearshits and

692
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 5>it's such an emotional time because as a coach, you

693
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 5>just do sad that you don't get to be around them,

694
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.519
<v Speaker 5>especially the twelve seniors that we had graduated. It's just that,

695
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, just to be around these guys because they're

696
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 5>just such quality people. And to be around those guys

697
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 5>for ten months, yeah, and then not to be around

698
00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 5>them again.

699
00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 4>It's hard.

700
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is amazing. And you mentioned going on the road,

701
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's where the the that's the proofson the

702
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 1>pudding right there is when they you travel and you

703
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>hang out the downtime, you know, that's where the chemistry happens,

704
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 1>not on the field as much. And uh, I was

705
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to Luke Mayley one day about that about just

706
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the downtime, you know, and how that's that helps the

707
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 1>bonding and all that, and he said, you know what

708
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>else he said, the losing. I said what he said,

709
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 1>When you play baseball, there's more games, so you're going

710
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 1>to lose more games, and you'd lose playing basketball or football.

711
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that? How do you come

712
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>through that? And if you can do that? You know,

713
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>now you've got a team full of brothers and I've

714
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>never forgotten that. So, uh, it is fun to watch coach.

715
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I can talk baseball with you all night. I do

716
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time and uh can't wait for the season begin.

717
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, same here. Thanks for having me, Cat.

718
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember two is up next and we'll hear about

719
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 1>a new project you're going to see on TV this

720
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>coming well actually next week on my broadcast partner, the

721
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Great Doug Flynn. That's all ahead the Big Bulling Cider

722
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<v Speaker 1>six thirty w LPE.

723
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<v Speaker 7>Anything can anything to do, Anything taken?

724
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<v Speaker 1>I think.

725
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<v Speaker 7>Thinking don't then don't.

726
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<v Speaker 1>Don't Joining me now on our Celebrity hotline is a guy,

727
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a former co worker, Golly. Fifteen years ago is when

728
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>he left WKYT he'd worked there for thirteen years as

729
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a videographer, worked with US in Sports for a while there.

730
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 1>David Patrick now at Morehead State with athletics video special

731
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<v Speaker 1>projects producer. A huge UK fan and a huge Cincinnati

732
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Reds fan, Dave, how's it going.

733
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Good, Dick? Thanks? Thanks for having me on today.

734
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us. I had heard from our mutual

735
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>friend and former colleague Steve Moss, and you had actually

736
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>texted me about this sometime back. You're working on a

737
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>project about my broadcasting brother Doug Flynn, which has got

738
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to be obviously a passion project for you, being a

739
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 1>huge Reds fan. But you know, Doug is out in

740
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 1>front of the public quite a bit charity work, UK

741
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Baseball and all, but when it comes to and he

742
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>loves talking about his time with the Cincinnati Reds, but

743
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't talk a lot about himself. And you have

744
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 1>got him to open up a little bit. You've got

745
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 1>a project coming up. Tell everybody about it.

746
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I do. It's Dick. It's a project that I've that

747
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 4>we've been working on for some time, and I just

748
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 4>felt like it was laid up on my heart. I

749
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 4>felt like that God laid up on my heart to

750
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 4>reach out to Doug. And I called him one day

751
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 4>and I said, I've got a very random question and

752
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>he said, sure, what is it? And I said, I

753
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.880
<v Speaker 4>know you've done countless interviews over the years, you know,

754
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 4>whether it be about Pete Rose or Johnny banch or

755
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 4>the Big Red Machine, Tom seaver, you name it. I mean,

756
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Doug has talked about it. But I said, have you

757
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 4>ever done an interview where you've just talked about yourself

758
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 4>your amazing career? I mean, Dick as you. I mean,

759
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 4>you know you know Doug probably better than anyone. I mean,

760
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 4>you've you've worked around him countless hours. But his his

761
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 4>story is amazing, dating back from you know, when he

762
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 4>was at Brian and stationed making the Reds through a

763
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 4>tryout camp, being a part of the Big Red Machine,

764
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.519
<v Speaker 4>arguably the greatest team of all time, and you know

765
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 4>he played in the Majors eleven years in both of

766
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 4>his professional story in his personal story is just amazing.

767
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 4>And the fact that he's a Lexington guy. And I said,

768
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 4>has anyone ever talked to you about that? And he

769
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 4>laughed and he said, well, actually no, And I said,

770
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 4>would you be willing to do that? And so he

771
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 4>accepted that, and it took us a while to coordinate

772
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 4>everything because of his schedule and my schedule. But we

773
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 4>actually met over in Nicholasville and we did a sit

774
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 4>down interview and Tanner Hesterberg went with me and we

775
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 4>set up a three camera shoot with lights and Tanner

776
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 4>was a huge Of course, Tanner formula WKYT and now

777
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 4>in a steamed attorney in Prestonsburg, So give a shout

778
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.119
<v Speaker 4>out to Tanner. But it was just it was It's

779
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 4>an amazing thing to work on. And it took me

780
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 4>a long time to put it together because my schedule

781
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 4>here at Moorhead State has just been so crazy because

782
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 4>not only do I know do I cover basketball, but

783
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I cover all sports. I never could find the time

784
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 4>to just sit down and put this project together. And

785
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 4>over the summer, Dick I just decided, listen, I've got

786
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 4>to make time. I've got to set aside time. I've

787
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 4>just got to make myself sit down because this is

788
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 4>going to be a great project when I get it done.

789
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 4>And so Doug and I had lunch. I let him

790
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 4>watch the first draft of the project. He's loved it,

791
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 4>and so we've got it fifty eight minutes and thirty seconds.

792
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 4>It's commercial free and it is just Doug telling his story.

793
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 4>It's all about Doug plan and I'm super proud of it.

794
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And tell everybody before we go any further when it's

795
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.519
<v Speaker 1>going to be on, how they can watch it.

796
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it will be on wk white T on June

797
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.760
<v Speaker 4>the twenty eighth at one o'clock, and then the following

798
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 4>day on the CW Lexington. It will also air at

799
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 4>one o'clock, So back to back days, the first on

800
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<v Speaker 4>WKYT and the second on the CW.

801
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<v Speaker 1>All right, and we will we will publicize the heck

802
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 1>out of that in the oncoming week. Yeah, that's that's

803
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 1>an awful lot to unpack, as you kids like to say,

804
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 1>because Doug a three three sports star at Brian's station,

805
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and of course, and you know, and he's done the

806
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.320
<v Speaker 1>occasional interview when he talked about the tryout process and

807
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and you know what's crazy, and I

808
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>know you guys get into this, but you know, he

809
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have had, as you said, just countless conversations

810
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>on and off the air. We did the minor league

811
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>baseball games for a couple of summers ten years ago, gosh,

812
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, so we traveled together. Uh, only three

813
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<v Speaker 1>years in the minors, David, you know, and you're a

814
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>baseball nut, you know that oftentimes it takes seven or

815
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 1>eight years for somebody to make it from the miners

816
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to the majors. Doug went single, a double, a triple,

817
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a right place, right time, and that only makes it,

818
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>but makes it with the greatest team of all time.

819
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<v Speaker 1>That's that alone is just an incredible chapter, isn't.

820
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<v Speaker 4>It It is It's it's amazing. And I love his

821
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<v Speaker 4>story about, you know, going to Reds tryout camp and

822
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<v Speaker 4>somebody's picked him up and he heads to his first

823
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 4>tryout camp. He had to borrow a glove. Yes, he

824
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 4>had arl shoes because he didn't even have them with him.

825
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 4>He was in a mix Somerset at the time. And

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<v Speaker 4>so the process of making the Reds and then he

827
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<v Speaker 4>makes the team and and and part of back to

828
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<v Speaker 4>back World Series championships, and it's it's just it's just

829
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<v Speaker 4>a remarkable feat of of you know, he told me,

830
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<v Speaker 4>Dick that he never went to spring training with a

831
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<v Speaker 4>job right every spring training that he went to, he

832
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<v Speaker 4>never had a job secured, whether he was with the Reds, Mets,

833
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<v Speaker 4>you know, with with the Rangers, it didn't matter. He

834
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<v Speaker 4>never had a job, and he ends up having an

835
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 4>eleven year major league career.

836
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and it could have been longer if not

837
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>for the collusion by the owners. Uh yeah, and that's

838
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that's another part of it. And sadly the guy who

839
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>cut him for the last time was Sparky Anderson, you

840
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>know in Detroit. Did he tell you the story, David?

841
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>And I know there's you leave so much in the

842
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.639
<v Speaker 1>cutting room floor. But when he went from double A

843
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to triple A? Why he was able to move up

844
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 1>quickly there? When he went up to play third base?

845
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes he did, all right, let's not spoil that, but

846
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 1>it was it was some chicanery on Doug's part. Let's

847
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>put it to you that way. So yeah, yeah, but

848
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you need to watch it. It's a great, great story,

849
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's a guy who was hungry to move up

850
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. Uh. And the other thing too, that I

851
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize until I went back and thought about it,

852
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>was it wasn't just the tryat camp in Somerset. He

853
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 1>needed to perform one or two more times, didn't he

854
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>before the Reds finally gave him a contract.

855
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 4>He after the try out camp in Somerset, the Red

856
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 4>scout at the time asked him, he said, are you

857
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 4>even serious about this? And he said do you even

858
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 4>own a baseball uniform? And Doug and yes. And so

859
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 4>Doug gets invited to Frankfurt to a tryout camp. And

860
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 4>then after about two weeks after the Frankfort camp, the

861
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 4>Reds call him back and inviting the Cincinnati to Riverfront Stadium,

862
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 4>and Doug was like, Oh, this is going to be

863
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 4>cool to go to Riverfront. And then after that he

864
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 4>was you know, he didn't hear anything, and he's thinking,

865
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 4>all right, at least I tried, and then all of

866
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 4>a sudden he gets invited to spring training and it's

867
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 4>just a remarkable story. And Dick, one of my favorite

868
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 4>things that he talked about is when he went to

869
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 4>spring training in seventy five. The way that he found

870
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 4>out that he had made the team was not by

871
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 4>anybody with the Reds organization but Steve Hamilton. Yes, the

872
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 4>form Morehead state athletic legend and athletic director. Steve was

873
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 4>a coach with the Detroit Tigers at the time, and

874
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I think they were in Plant City and Steve comes

875
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 4>up to Doug. Course, the two had known each other

876
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 4>for years, and Steve was actually the one to tell him, Hey,

877
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.639
<v Speaker 4>I just talked to Sparky and he says, you're going

878
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 4>to make the club. And Doug's mouth drops up and

879
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.719
<v Speaker 4>he says, Sparky didn't tell me that, and Steve said, well,

880
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 4>you're going to make the club. I think that is

881
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>so cool that Steve Hamilton was the one that broke

882
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 4>the news to Doug in private that he was going

883
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 4>to be a Cincinnati Red and make the major league

884
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 4>club on opening Day. It's amazing.

885
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 1>I love talking to Steve Hamilton. I had him on

886
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the first sports talk show I ever did way back

887
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. Loved interviewing him over there in Morehead.

888
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I could have sat there and listened to stories all day.

889
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorite anecdotes from the Doug Flynn story.

890
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I just heard that part of it David earlier this

891
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 1>year when Doug and I were just sitting around talking.

892
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Because when opposing teams come to KPP and we go

893
00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:00.159
<v Speaker 1>in and talk to the visiting broadcasters, and oftentimes the

894
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 1>color analyst has played some Major League ball or some

895
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Pro ball, and they recognize Doug and buddy. When they

896
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>start telling stories, I just melt into the wall and listened,

897
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's one of the ones that came up. We're

898
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 1>talking to David Patrick. He is a sports videographer, works

899
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>for Morehead State Athletics, works on special projects, and did

900
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 1>a freelance project that airs a week from tomorrow on

901
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>WKYT and then a week from Sunday, once again, both

902
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>times at one o'clock on Doug Flynn. What's the name

903
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 1>of it? Have you named it?

904
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's entitled Faith, Family and Baseball. A conversation with

905
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Doug Flynn.

906
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>That's an excellent time. I am so bad. You might

907
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.679
<v Speaker 1>remember this from our days at KYT. I'm terrible at

908
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.159
<v Speaker 1>naming projects. I like putting them together on I am

909
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 1>terrible at naming him. That's a good one. We'll come

910
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more with David after the after the

911
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>break here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking

912
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>with David Patrick from the Morehead State Athletics Department. He

913
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>is a videographer, producer, UH special projects editor and documentarian. Now, hey,

914
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 1>little taste of a long form that I got at KYD.

915
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 1>How'd you like it?

916
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 4>I know, I tell you Dick, it's a lot of work.

917
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 4>And yes, sir Moss and I were talking, and of

918
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 4>course from working with you all those years, I know

919
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, your project with Coach Rupp is an absolute

920
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 4>masterpiece that you and Steve worked on. You work so

921
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 4>hard and probably the greatest, uh the greatest documentary that

922
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 4>I've ever seen. It was just amazing. So you know,

923
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 4>when I when I embarked on this, not only are

924
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 4>are you and Doug really really close and you guys

925
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 4>are great friends, but when when I decided to do this,

926
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 4>I actually thought about you because I thought, you know,

927
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Dick has really set the bar on how to how

928
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 4>to do these things. And this is my first, this

929
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 4>is my first you know, long form and it's not

930
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 4>really a documentary. It's just to sit down interview and

931
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I just let Doug tell a story. But I tell you, Dick,

932
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.880
<v Speaker 4>I have a real appreciation for what you've done over

933
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 4>all these years and all that the projects that you've

934
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 4>worked on, because this was a ton of work now

935
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 4>with the labor of love, and I'm so glad that

936
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 4>I did it, but it was a ton of work.

937
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:23.559
<v Speaker 1>It is and you know, with me and I can

938
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 1>procrastinate a bit, and when I worked on documentaries, I

939
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 1>would procrastinate a little bit because I knew and you

940
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>can relate now. When you walk into that edit bay

941
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 1>for the first time with all your material or most

942
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 1>of your material, you know you're jumping in the deep

943
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>end and you're going to swim like hell till you

944
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 1>till you crawl out with a finished project. But it's

945
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be something you're really proud of and that

946
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't wait to see and you want to hear

947
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.039
<v Speaker 1>what people have to say about it. So I'm really

948
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>proud of you that you did this, And when I

949
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.119
<v Speaker 1>heard that you were doing it, I kind of kicked myself, like, man,

950
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 1>why didn't I think of that? But part of the reason, David,

951
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 1>which brings me to my next question, is it Doug

952
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>has has again shied away from certain parts of his

953
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 1>life story, which sadly includes, you know, the terrible chapter

954
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.760
<v Speaker 1>on his sister's disappearance and what that did to his

955
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>family and his folks, you know, and he had to

956
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 1>deal with it while he was playing in New York

957
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>of all places. But but he has come through it

958
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 1>with his head held high, hasn't he?

959
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 4>He is that Doug is just a remarkable person. And Dick,

960
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, this such a high character guy, a man

961
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.519
<v Speaker 4>of integrity, and you know, always say, if you don't

962
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.440
<v Speaker 4>like Doug Flynn, the problems not with him, it's with you.

963
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 4>And I truly believe that because he's He's absolutely one

964
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.920
<v Speaker 4>of my favorite people. And you know, when I was

965
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 4>at w W KYT and would go out to shoot

966
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 4>video of the children's charity and and and any time

967
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I would run into Doug, he always treated me just

968
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:01.400
<v Speaker 4>just so well, and he was so kind and welcoming

969
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 4>and Dick, I always had just such a respect for him,

970
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.239
<v Speaker 4>and I looked up to Doug because he's just a

971
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 4>first class guy. And when you when you're dealing with

972
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.559
<v Speaker 4>people like that and you're around people like that, you

973
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 4>want to do something good for him. You want to

974
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 4>do something nice for him. And again, I just felt

975
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 4>like that God laid this on my heart. I don't

976
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why that I was the one, and

977
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 4>you know that he picked to do this, but I

978
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:29.639
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I just have such a respect for Doug

979
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 4>and a love for Doug, and he's just one of

980
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 4>the best people that I know in the world. And

981
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 4>it was a true blessing and an honor for me

982
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 4>to do this with him, because I got to see

983
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 4>the joy on his face and the and the laughter

984
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 4>and the smiles, and when he watched the first draft

985
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 4>of it, he's like, David, I really I really like this.

986
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so And it meant the world to me

987
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.199
<v Speaker 4>just that I had done something for him, someone who

988
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 4>has given so much to so many people. It was

989
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 4>nice to give something to him.

990
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to David Patrick from Morehead State University Athletics.

991
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:11.280
<v Speaker 1>He is a videographer, producer, editor and is working, has worked,

992
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>and has prepared a one hour special on Doug Flynn

993
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that airs tomorrow a week on June twenty eighth, one

994
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 1>o'clock on WKYT, the next Sunday, the twenty ninth, on

995
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 1>the cwulection, and again at one o'clock. And yeah, it's

996
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 1>a great topic and that subject matter of Doug giving back.

997
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:32.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously you and I were both working on

998
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the Children's Charity Tournament for many, many years. That was

999
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 1>an absolute passion project for Doug. When we were traveling

1000
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 1>with the minor leagues, we spent a lot of time

1001
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 1>in airports, a lot of time downtime in hotels. He

1002
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 1>was always on his phone always, and I don't mean

1003
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 1>scrolling through Twitter, which he didn't even do. It was

1004
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.079
<v Speaker 1>either work for Central Bank, where he has a real

1005
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>job and it is a real job, or working on

1006
00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the Children's charity tournament, contacting people organizing things hotels, reservations

1007
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and I and you and I probably did some interviews together,

1008
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.119
<v Speaker 1>talking to some of the celebrities, you know, the former

1009
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 1>athletes and the musicians from Nashville and people like that.

1010
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 1>And I would always ask, you know, well, what brings

1011
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you to our tournament here in Lexingham, because there are

1012
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>tournaments everywhere, and David eighty five percent of them would

1013
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>say first singing in the mouth. Doug Flynn asked me,

1014
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean without fail, which tells you so much. And

1015
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 1>he was very proud of that tournament. So that tells

1016
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>you a lot about him, doesn't it.

1017
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it does. And one of the you know, one

1018
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.519
<v Speaker 4>of the really cool memories I have from that was

1019
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.159
<v Speaker 4>on you know, was was headed into work and I

1020
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 4>was working by myself that Saturday at WKYT and I

1021
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 4>ran down the road to get some video and do

1022
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 4>a quick interview with Doug at Children's Charity, and he

1023
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 4>looked at me. He said, David, how much time he got?

1024
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 4>I said that, well, really not much, because when I

1025
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 4>was working by myself on a Saturday, I would get

1026
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 4>so stressed out because yeah, I felt like I was

1027
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.599
<v Speaker 4>on it. And it happened to all of it, you know,

1028
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.800
<v Speaker 4>we all had to do it by yourself from time

1029
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 4>to time. And I was anchoring that night and.

1030
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I was a sports. Yeah that's back when you anchored sports, uh.

1031
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was it was during the summer. And he

1032
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 4>said how much time you got? And I said, really

1033
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 4>not much? And he said, well you have time to

1034
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 4>ride over to the other side of the course. And

1035
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I said, Doug, I really don't. I said, I've you know,

1036
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.519
<v Speaker 4>I've got a lot to do today. And he said,

1037
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 4>I promise it'll be worth your time. And I said, well,

1038
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:33.840
<v Speaker 4>who's on the other side And he said, would you

1039
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 4>like to go meet Ozzie Smith? And I said, oh

1040
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.480
<v Speaker 4>my god, just said deak. And so we hoped in

1041
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 4>the golf cart and he takes me over and introduces

1042
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 4>me to the Wizard of Oz, you know, and and

1043
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 4>that was just such a pleasure. And we get back

1044
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:49.760
<v Speaker 4>in the cart and Doug looked at it and he said,

1045
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I told you it would be worth your time, and

1046
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 4>did an interview with Ozzy and shook his hand and

1047
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know, it's just that, but the folks

1048
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 4>vic your right, the folks that came to town just

1049
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.480
<v Speaker 4>because of their love and respect for Doug. I mean,

1050
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 4>it was a who's whose list? As you said, that

1051
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 4>tells you all you need to know about the man

1052
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Doug Flam because everybody loved him. Everybody appreciates who he

1053
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 4>is and what he stands for, and he's just he's

1054
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 4>a blessing to so many people.

1055
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.079
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's great about him too. And we jokingly

1056
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 1>called him the Glue because well he came up with that.

1057
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've got a T shirt, but

1058
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I've got a Doug Flynn the Glue T shirt. Yeah, okay,

1059
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:36.639
<v Speaker 1>well yeah, because and that's the way he introduces himself.

1060
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 1>He sees all the Reds functions up there, you know,

1061
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:42.679
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame stuff and everything. But it's joking,

1062
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.559
<v Speaker 1>but it's, you know, tongue in cheek because when he

1063
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 1>was traded away, you know, in nineteen seventy seven, that's

1064
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:52.199
<v Speaker 1>when the Reds were making foolish moves that broke up

1065
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the Big Red Machine. It wasn't just because Doug was traded,

1066
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>because they got Tom sever out of it. But Doug

1067
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:02.639
<v Speaker 1>always talks about ol the reds all knew what was

1068
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>what they knew the eight starters or that were the

1069
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.679
<v Speaker 1>great players. Sparky would put these same eight guys, I know,

1070
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you can name the lineup for the Big Red Machine,

1071
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and then everybody else I won't use the word but

1072
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody else was the rest of the guys. But they

1073
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>knew their part and they were proud to be that.

1074
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that kind of underscored the humility

1075
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 1>that Doug ay. And then even he's a goal glove winner,

1076
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and of course the Mets being knuckleheads back then, the

1077
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>first thing they did with their goal glove second baseman

1078
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the next year was moving to shortstop so they could

1079
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>bring up a young kid from the miners for second base,

1080
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.199
<v Speaker 1>and that guy was a washout and they were never

1081
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 1>quite the same. So, but he's always remained humble and

1082
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>yet extremely proud of his team, his teammates, the work

1083
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>they did. He takes the game so seriously, still takes

1084
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>his broadcasting seriously, but doesn't take himself too seriously. Tom

1085
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Leech is like that too. I think the great ones

1086
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:00.639
<v Speaker 1>are what I mean.

1087
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, absolutely, I think that's a great comparison because Tom

1088
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.320
<v Speaker 4>is the same way. I mean, such a such a

1089
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 4>nice guy, a humble guy that doesn't let his ego

1090
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.639
<v Speaker 4>get out of hand at all. I mean, he's just

1091
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 4>he is so kind and it just like Doug. And

1092
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:18.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, Doug, you were talking about the Big Red

1093
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Machine team in nineteen seventy six. Doug played a ninety

1094
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 4>three games, yes, which is just crazy. Yes, And you

1095
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 4>know he told me during the interview about you know,

1096
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Joe Morgan was hurt for a month and so he

1097
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.039
<v Speaker 4>got to play second base for a month and turn

1098
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:36.480
<v Speaker 4>double plays with Davy Concepcion and then Lad in games,

1099
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Sparky would often put him in at third as a

1100
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 4>defensive replacement for Pete and just I mean, it's just

1101
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 4>it's just phenomenal that a what a five foot eight,

1102
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty pounds Brian station baseball player can

1103
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 4>be a not only a part, but a very important part,

1104
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 4>a critical part of arguably the greatest team ever assemble.

1105
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing.

1106
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, Marrow with David Patrick, who has produced

1107
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 1>a documentary on Doug Flynn is coming up a week

1108
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.280
<v Speaker 1>from tomorrow on WKYT. Back in just a minute, A

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01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Big Blooon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

1110
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Sider. We're talking with David Patrick from

1111
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Morehead State University Athletics. He is a video projects producer,

1112
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but he has stepped outside to do a passion project,

1113
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a freelance project. It's a one hour documentary on my

1114
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.960
<v Speaker 1>broadcast brother, Doug Flynn. It airs on WKYT a week

1115
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.880
<v Speaker 1>from tomorrow at one o'clock on June twenty eighth, and

1116
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:39.679
<v Speaker 1>then the next day Sunday on the c W Lexington

1117
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:43.360
<v Speaker 1>at one o'clock again. And David, of course a huge

1118
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 1>UK fan, but a huge Reds fan. And you know

1119
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 1>what's amazing to me, the most amazing part of this was,

1120
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and he always jokes about this on our broadcast whenever

1121
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.199
<v Speaker 1>we talk about hitting. You know, I'd ask him something.

1122
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why asking me because this, you know,

1123
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.800
<v Speaker 1>his career average was the greatest. But as I like

1124
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to remind him, and he does too, any I think

1125
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 1>he had like what twelve home runs? I said, yeah,

1126
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.639
<v Speaker 1>but you did it in the major leagues, but he

1127
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 1>made and you know this, he made the Reds going

1128
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 1>into that seventy five year because of his hitting. I mean,

1129
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody knew that this kid from Lexingy could pick it.

1130
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 1>But he had an incredibly h He was the second

1131
01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 1>best hitter in camp to Pete Rose that year. That's

1132
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>why he made the team amazingly. And if you go

1133
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 1>back and look at his wiki page, which you may

1134
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 1>have already done, there are parts of his career when

1135
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.719
<v Speaker 1>he was playing regularly, when his numbers were really really good.

1136
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>But as he's pointed out on more than one occasion,

1137
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, there had the hitting coaches basically ignored guys

1138
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 1>like Doug Flynn. He got zero help with his hitting

1139
01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in Major League baseball.

1140
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he talked about in spring training, you know

1141
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:55.239
<v Speaker 4>when he made the club that he got I think

1142
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:58.559
<v Speaker 4>it was ninety at bat in spring training, and they

1143
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.679
<v Speaker 4>kept on sending him to the plate, I guess, waiting

1144
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 4>on him to fail. And he tore the cover off

1145
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:06.000
<v Speaker 4>the ball in spring training and it really gave him

1146
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:09.159
<v Speaker 4>no choice but to, you know, but to take him,

1147
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 4>take him to the Cincinnati. So it's I think he

1148
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.360
<v Speaker 4>he never gets enough credit for his hitting and one

1149
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 4>of the highlights of my interview with him was his

1150
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:27.119
<v Speaker 4>story about his first and only inside the park home run.

1151
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure you've heard the story. He hit it

1152
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:33.400
<v Speaker 4>against the Reds on National TV and he's rounding third,

1153
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 4>he's being waved home. The ball goes in the gap

1154
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.480
<v Speaker 4>at left center and George Foster and says our jeron, look,

1155
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, goes in between him, goes all the way

1156
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.480
<v Speaker 4>to the wall and he's rounding third and he looks

1157
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 4>up and his good friend Johnny Bench is waiting on

1158
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:49.079
<v Speaker 4>him at the plate and he's like, okay, do I

1159
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 4>do I try to run over him. No, I don't,

1160
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.360
<v Speaker 4>and he ends up sliding in. There was not even

1161
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 4>a play at plate, and Johnny looks at him, looks

1162
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 4>down at him on the ground. The crowd's going crazy,

1163
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 4>and Johnny says, what justly for Dougie, and doug looks

1164
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:07.559
<v Speaker 4>at him and says, let's get on national TV. John

1165
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 4>so uh that it's I mean the fact that he said,

1166
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.440
<v Speaker 4>I think I think my former teammates in the Reds

1167
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.039
<v Speaker 4>dug Aut were as excited to sit and see me

1168
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.119
<v Speaker 4>hit that inside the park home run, and of course

1169
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 4>hit three triples in a game it is. I mean,

1170
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 4>the heck does that?

1171
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think one other person's done it in a

1172
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 1>major league game. Yeah. I remind him of that every

1173
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:30.679
<v Speaker 1>once in a while. So he said he was so

1174
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.000
<v Speaker 1>exhausted by that third one he could even think straight.

1175
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.719
<v Speaker 1>So well, David, I'm proud of you for doing this.

1176
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy you got a chance to spend somebody with uh.

1177
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Your your beloved Cincinnati red You're such a Reds fan.

1178
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 1>But I can't wait to see the finished project. Congratulations

1179
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 1>on getting.

1180
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.079
<v Speaker 4>It done well, Dick. And I want to say this,

1181
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:52.440
<v Speaker 4>I had the absolute honor of working for you. You

1182
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 4>you were the sports director at w k YT when

1183
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 4>when I went after the sports department, and I was

1184
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.800
<v Speaker 4>I was so green, and I was such a such

1185
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:04.519
<v Speaker 4>a rookie and made so many mistakes. And I've told

1186
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 4>this story numerous times that you were always you were

1187
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 4>tough on me, and when I look back at the time,

1188
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:17.000
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't fun because I remember you and I would

1189
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 4>set in a chair there in the middle office and

1190
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.360
<v Speaker 4>I would be going over scripts or talking to you

1191
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.719
<v Speaker 4>about stories, and you would constantly correct me. And I

1192
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:26.760
<v Speaker 4>looked at you one day and I said, Dick, why

1193
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 4>are you always doing that to me? And you said,

1194
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.679
<v Speaker 4>because I want to make you better, Because if you're

1195
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.840
<v Speaker 4>going to work up here upstairs with us, I want

1196
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:36.519
<v Speaker 4>you to be the best that you can be. And

1197
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.400
<v Speaker 4>you were always tough on me, But Dick, it made

1198
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:43.519
<v Speaker 4>me so much better. And to this day here at

1199
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Moorhead State, I work around some amazing people and the

1200
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.719
<v Speaker 4>lessons that I learned from you, and I'm I'm this

1201
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.320
<v Speaker 4>is one hundred percent heartfelt, and I mean this with

1202
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 4>all my heart. But the lessons that I learned from

1203
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 4>you and Rob and Steve and the guys that I

1204
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 4>work with, you guys were seasoned veterans. They were priceless

1205
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.199
<v Speaker 4>because at the time I felt, you know, I was,

1206
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:10.639
<v Speaker 4>I was intimidated to work with you guys because you

1207
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.760
<v Speaker 4>guys have been doing this for so long. But because

1208
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 4>you were tough and because you you you, you were

1209
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:21.400
<v Speaker 4>willing to correct me and make me better. As you know,

1210
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.639
<v Speaker 4>my career is almost thirty years now, and you know

1211
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:29.440
<v Speaker 4>in in TV or you know in media, and that

1212
01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:32.679
<v Speaker 4>the reason that I'm where I am today is because

1213
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.559
<v Speaker 4>of you and Rob and Steve and guys that I

1214
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 4>worked with. Because you you push me, and you refuse

1215
01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:43.599
<v Speaker 4>to let me, uh, to to settle for mediocrity. You

1216
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:45.800
<v Speaker 4>made sure that I was to be the best that

1217
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I could possibly be. And I really appreciate that. And

1218
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:52.079
<v Speaker 4>I have so much admiration and respect for you, Dick.

1219
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:55.440
<v Speaker 4>You're just man. You're you're you're you're a pro, and

1220
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 4>you're one of a kind. And thank you for mentoring

1221
01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 4>me all those years.

1222
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks, David's humbling and I appreciate that. And uh,

1223
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 1>we did have a lot of fun though, didn't.

1224
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.440
<v Speaker 4>We We did. We had a we had a blat.

1225
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:09.079
<v Speaker 4>It was. It was such a it was such a

1226
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.800
<v Speaker 4>blessing to come to work every day because it was

1227
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.119
<v Speaker 4>just you knew you were going to get to do

1228
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.400
<v Speaker 4>something special and be around special people. So it was great.

1229
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:20.239
<v Speaker 4>But thank you, thank you again, great David.

1230
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Those are kind words. I appreciate it, and I'm looking

1231
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing the finished product. Man, have a good one.

1232
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

1233
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:27.519
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Dick, appreciate your time.

1234
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy David got to do this project. And

1235
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 1>as I said earlier, after I heard he was doing this,

1236
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Man, why didn't I ever think of that?

1237
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 1>But David is the perfect guy, and I did grow

1238
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 1>up a Reds fan. Yes, I'm a Cardinals fan, but

1239
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I loved Pete Rose and when I wasn't rooting for

1240
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, I rooted for the Reds and was so

1241
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.320
<v Speaker 1>great first of all getting to know Doug Flynn, and

1242
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 1>then he and I worked on baseball games together. We

1243
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 1>think at least thirty years. I can't even remember the

1244
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.119
<v Speaker 1>first time I worked together with him. It was back

1245
01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 1>when w KYT was producing the local base broadcast and

1246
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 1>now of course for SEC plus. But we've gotten to

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01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.840
<v Speaker 1>be such good friends, travel together all that stuff, and

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01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.800
<v Speaker 1>people talk to us about in our chemistry on the

1249
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.599
<v Speaker 1>air and how much fun we have, and we just

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01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 1>try to make it fun for the people. But I

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01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 1>never really thought about and I have done interviews with Doug,

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01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.920
<v Speaker 1>but a documentary on Doug Flinn, And as some of

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01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:25.159
<v Speaker 1>you may know, I've done a lot of documentaries in

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01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 1>my day. So I can't wait to see the show

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01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.119
<v Speaker 1>that David has put together, and again a week from tomorrow,

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01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and then again a week from Sunday on the CW,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it's on KYT on Saturday and the

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01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 1>CW on Sunday. It's going to be essentially one hour

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01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:46.399
<v Speaker 1>commercial free, which I surely appreciate Kyt giving up a

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01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 1>block of time like that. And it does take me

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Rugh documentary that I did in twenty five,

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01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:57.039
<v Speaker 1>when what you do is you put everything in it

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01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and then you start trimming it. You start cutting things way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to the sales manager and I said,

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01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:07.319
<v Speaker 1>how many minutes can I have? How many minutes do

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<v Speaker 1>you need for commercials? I was at a little more

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<v Speaker 1>than one hundred and twenty minutes two hours, and I

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01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 1>remember he said, don't cut anything, hang on a minute,

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01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:20.600
<v Speaker 1>hang on, you just wait. I'm like all right. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they sold it to a title sponsor, which meant

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01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 1>commercial basically at the beginning, a commercial at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was basically sponsored by friends and family of

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01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the Rough family. Friends of the Rough family and family members.

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01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 1>They kind of passed the hat. You know, there weren't

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01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 1>any big corporations that would even sign on because it

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01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.720
<v Speaker 1>was too delicate. You know, there was going to be

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01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the topic of racism and things like that, and race

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01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>relations had made people nervous. So the Rough family basically

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01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 1>passed the hat. And again I will say this University

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01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky had nothing to do with this documentary. It was

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01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 1>published in a story in the local paper. The UK

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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 1>paid us to do that, and then I solicited funds.

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01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:09.279
<v Speaker 1>That was a lie. No, the Rough family passed the hat,

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01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 1>and that's why the Rough documentary was commercial free, two

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01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.520
<v Speaker 1>hours long. And I was happy that David got that

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01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of time, and I was proud the KYT allowed

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01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 1>him to do that kind of project. So I can't

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01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:22.560
<v Speaker 1>wait to see it, and I'm happy for him, and

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01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:25.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy that Doug likes it, and I was pleased

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01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:28.399
<v Speaker 1>at the Rough family like my show as well. But again,

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01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many stories from Doug. Now I get

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01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to hear some new ones and I get to see

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01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:37.359
<v Speaker 1>them all kind of melded together in one piece thanks

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01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to David Patrick. So congrats to David. Why we're talking baseball,

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01:10:41.640 --> 01:10:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'll get into this a little bit more on heroes,

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01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.960
<v Speaker 1>fools and flakes. But you know, if you saw the

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01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 1>end of that Arkansas l issue game, your heart just

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01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 1>goes out to the young man who made the air

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01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and left field that allowed two runs to score. But

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01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, and this doesn't help Arkansas fans at all,

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01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think it'll help the young man at all.

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01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:06.119
<v Speaker 1>But it bears mentioning that the game should have ended

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01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:08.960
<v Speaker 1>on a ground ball to the shortstop who was the

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01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.520
<v Speaker 1>sec player of the year, and he throws ahead of

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01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>the runner man on first and second and he gets

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01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the leader runner a third. Okay, that's fine, but it

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01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:21.239
<v Speaker 1>was a routine ground ball, and every replay indicated they

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01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:23.319
<v Speaker 1>should have gone for two and likely would have made it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was somebody on the innerweb who went back,

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01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, and looked at every ground ball that year

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01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to that guy, and it was a play he could

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01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.640
<v Speaker 1>have and should have made. So what that means is

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01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that never should have come down, and that's often the case.

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01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:43.359
<v Speaker 1>To that twisting line drive in left field that allowed

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01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:46.279
<v Speaker 1>two runs to score, and of course the tough break

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01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.720
<v Speaker 1>with the ball hit up the middle that had had

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01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:52.039
<v Speaker 1>gone cleanly into center field, the runner might not have scored,

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01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:53.560
<v Speaker 1>or he might have been thrown out at the plate,

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01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but the defender nearly caught the ball, ticked it with

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01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 1>his glove that slowed things down and allowed the run

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01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:04.199
<v Speaker 1>to score. But unfortunately, the highest profile play was the

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01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:08.199
<v Speaker 1>error in left field, and your heartbreaks for Arkansas, for

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01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 1>that kid, for Dave van Horn, who had a national

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01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:14.720
<v Speaker 1>championship the head coach in his grasp two or three

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01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.439
<v Speaker 1>years ago when one of his players dropped the pop

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01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>fly and blew the championship game. After the game, Dave

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01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 1>van Horn talked about the interaction he had with his

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01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:28.560
<v Speaker 1>heartbroken left.

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<v Speaker 8>Fielder and he's he's pretty distraught, but.

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<v Speaker 9>I just told him straight.

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01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I started telling him that how much I

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01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.319
<v Speaker 8>appreciated him and we would never have made it here

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01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:46.439
<v Speaker 8>without him. And he said that he was sorry, and

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<v Speaker 8>I said, don't tell me you're sorry. That you don't

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01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 8>have to tell me you're sorry, and.

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<v Speaker 9>He said it again, and I mean, it's tough, and

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01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 9>that kid didn't have to be sorry for anything.

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01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He was our glue man. He held it together. That

1339
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:11.920
<v Speaker 1>was posted as part of a long tweet from a

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01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:16.159
<v Speaker 1>former Arkansas player. He was a pitcher named Ryan Vanessio.

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01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's how you pronounce his name. I guess

1342
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 1>he was a two way player because he talked about

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01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:25.079
<v Speaker 1>a game against Baylor in twenty oh two when Van

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01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Horn flashed him a hit and run sign and he

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01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:30.840
<v Speaker 1>missed it. And of course, when you missed the hit

1346
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and run and the runner breaks, he's hung out to

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01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:35.479
<v Speaker 1>dry and the guy was thrown out by a mile

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01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and Van Horn, he said, glared at him in the

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01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:42.079
<v Speaker 1>dugout and said, I suggest you find someone to review

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01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the signs for you, or you won't be on the

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01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:48.840
<v Speaker 1>field much longer. And he said, I'm sorry, And Van

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01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Horden said, he went straight to me and said, basically,

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01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>don't ever apologize. I think you did it on purpose.

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01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 1>You play the game with everything you got, and when

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01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you mess up, you learn, you grow and you come

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01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:05.720
<v Speaker 1>back better. And you know, you can talk about coaches

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01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.720
<v Speaker 1>who scream and yell and throw their arms in the

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01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:10.199
<v Speaker 1>air and run up and down the sidelines and bark

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01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.279
<v Speaker 1>at umpires. You know, that's great coach, you know, not always,

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01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:18.239
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily, sometimes it is, but no, that's coaching when

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01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you say things like that to your players. And I

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01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know Dave Van Horne. I've met him, I've talked

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01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to him. I liked him. He was kind to me,

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01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:28.199
<v Speaker 1>he was polite. I don't know him, quote unquote, but

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I know what I've heard, I know what i've read,

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01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:34.439
<v Speaker 1>and I know what I've seen in him, and that's classy.

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01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:38.239
<v Speaker 1>And this guy went on to say, you want a

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01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:40.439
<v Speaker 1>coach who's consistent. You may not like what he has

1369
01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to say, but it's consistent. That is the mark, in

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01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, of a great coach. That's one of the

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01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.680
<v Speaker 1>things I really liked about Rich Brooks. Heroes, Fools and

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01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Flakes are next on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to

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01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider time now for Heroes, fools and

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01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Flakes and our hero Tonight we have to go back

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01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to that difficulty la Hugh Arkansas game on Wednesday night

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01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 1>when the Razorbacks blew a three run lead in the

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01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ninth and it wasn't the last play

1378
01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of the game, but it was crucial when an LSU

1379
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.239
<v Speaker 1>player line went into left field and Charles Davilon, the

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01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas left fielder, got caught in the middle. It was

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01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 1>right at him, a hooking line drive. He kind of

1382
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.479
<v Speaker 1>lost his balance or stumbled or something and couldn't make

1383
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the play. Two runs scored that tied the game. Next

1384
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:30.319
<v Speaker 1>man up knocks in the game when he won, and

1385
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:34.039
<v Speaker 1>after the game, cameras caught Davlon, of course, sobbing on

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01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the bench in the dugout, being consoled by his teammates,

1387
01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and according to one report, he recorded one hundred and

1388
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 1>one putouts this year. That was his only eer of

1389
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the year. But what brings me to the heroic part

1390
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.079
<v Speaker 1>is that, yeah, you know, they had to stay in

1391
01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the dugout for a while and it was so tough

1392
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 1>on this kid. But his teammates one by one came up,

1393
01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>tried to console him. But a teammate named Rocco Peppi

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01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.640
<v Speaker 1>would not leave his side through it all. There's a

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01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:05.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of video of Peppy just sitting next to him,

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01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.479
<v Speaker 1>were just sitting there with his arm around his neck.

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01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Would not leave his teammate in his time of trouble,

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01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.960
<v Speaker 1>in his time of need. That's a real teammate and

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01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.760
<v Speaker 1>in fact, as a man who posted on Twitter, Josh

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01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Burrion wrote, that's not a teammate, that's a brother. Our

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01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 1>full tonight is any of those NBA analysts, commentators whoever

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01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.760
<v Speaker 1>who believe the tyres Halliburton should have sat out Game

1403
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:35.680
<v Speaker 1>five with the injured leg. He tried to play through it.

1404
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Of course, the Thunder thump the Pacers, only to come

1405
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 1>back and see the Pacers last night beat the Thunder

1406
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and forced a Game seven. And now Aliburton wasn't one

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01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent last night but he was a vital part

1408
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of that blowout win last night. And I'm telling you,

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01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think if Halliburton sits out game five, I don't

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01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 1>know if that happens last night, you can't criticize the

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01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:02.279
<v Speaker 1>team's best player. Were trying to play and trying to

1412
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:06.199
<v Speaker 1>be a great teammate as best he can. And it

1413
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:10.279
<v Speaker 1>reminded me of the Marquette Kentucky game back in twenty

1414
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.720
<v Speaker 1>oh three in the regional championship. Cats were one step

1415
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.199
<v Speaker 1>away from a return trip to the Final four. With

1416
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Tebe Smith, that was his best team, but Keith Bogans

1417
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:23.239
<v Speaker 1>two nights prior had suffered a high ankle sprain and

1418
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>tried to go against Dwayne Wade and Marquette and it

1419
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:29.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't work. He played on one leg, he couldn't play

1420
01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>defense very well, and Marquette got to win the triple

1421
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:36.760
<v Speaker 1>double for Dwayne Wade, and in the Final four, Marquette

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01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was blown out, but at a great night that night.

1423
01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Warriors want to play. And that's what I asked Tubbe

1424
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Smith about sometime later. How often do you think about

1425
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 1>that decision you had to make? Do you play Bogans

1426
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:52.439
<v Speaker 1>or not? He said, every night, every day. I think

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01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:54.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, he said, But how do you not play him?

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01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:58.000
<v Speaker 1>He's our warrior and that's what Halliburton is, and that's

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01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.319
<v Speaker 1>what he was last night and he will be again

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01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in Game seven. Our flake. Tonight. We're going to Dallas, Texas.

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01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Talk about not the Cowboys, but the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders.

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01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I am not a Cowboys fan. I did live in Dallas.

1433
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I went to Cowboy games. Yes they're gorgeous women, Yes

1434
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they perform well, they're not cheerleaders, they're dancers. When I

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01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>was down there, they were paid less than one hundred

1436
01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:28.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars a game, and they trained in terms of time,

1437
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 1>spent more than the team did. Now they were to

1438
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:35.359
<v Speaker 1>make money on the side on calendars and appearances and

1439
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:39.680
<v Speaker 1>things like that, but the team paid them peanuts. They

1440
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:43.399
<v Speaker 1>had since been paid more and more, and in fact,

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01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen they settled a lawsuit with a former

1442
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>cheerleader that led to the squad doubling the per game

1443
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.399
<v Speaker 1>pay from two hundred bucks to four hundred bucks. And

1444
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:57.159
<v Speaker 1>evidently the latest rais is four times that. But it's

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01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>just weird that it has taken this long and multiple

1446
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:05.560
<v Speaker 1>trips to court to make a four hundred percent increase happen.

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01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:09.159
<v Speaker 1>It should have been happening in small increments through the years,

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01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not boom all at once, four hundred percent. Not all

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<v Speaker 1>as well in Jerry world, and not just because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been to the super Bowl since well I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who was president last time they were. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it for now. Thanks so much to my

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<v Speaker 1>guest David Patrick nickmnjeon that said good night in the

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<v Speaker 1>garage and Lexington, Aron, where are you? Where is a

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<v Speaker 1>Ron right now?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron?

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<v Speaker 8>Huh?

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<v Speaker 5>Well you better be sick, dead or mute? Aron here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 5>Why didn't you ask me the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>I said Aaron?

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<v Speaker 9>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I'm just asking you.

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<v Speaker 5>I said it like four times. So why didn't you

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<v Speaker 5>say it the first time? I said Aron?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's pronounced Aaron.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't messed up. I wont take anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then.

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<v Speaker 9>The tact.

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<v Speaker 7>To last innings
