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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Tot Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Tuesday of game week. I have got

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<v Speaker 1>another one coming up, Kentucky and Ohio You Saturday at

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<v Speaker 1>Kroger Field twelve forty five pm kickoff ten thirty am

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast time as Christy Thomas, Logan Stenberg and Jeremy Jarmin'll

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<v Speaker 1>be up and Adam early and then yours truly along

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom Leach and Jeff Pcorrel Cats versus Cats, Blue

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<v Speaker 1>versus Green and Ohio You, team that came in here

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty oh four and upset the Wildcats who were

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<v Speaker 1>struggling under Rich Brooks and wash Keef, struggling for another

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<v Speaker 1>couple of seasons, meaning middle of four to the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of O six. But we talked to rich Brooks last

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<v Speaker 1>week about how the Wildcats turned things around and six

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<v Speaker 1>and got things rolling. Maybe that'll happen this weekend. But

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky needs to match the effort that it showed against

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia to get a win. I'm not saying that Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>You is going to provide as much of a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>that Georgia did, but we've seen Mac teams for the

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<v Speaker 1>years go all over the Country and pull off upsets,

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<v Speaker 1>including one this year, and Toledo goes down to Mississippi State,

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<v Speaker 1>was paid one point two million to go to Starkville

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<v Speaker 1>and beat the Bulldogs and their quarterback Tucker Gleason through

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three of twenty eight for two eighty five, three

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns and no picks. The Rockets scored twenty one points

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<v Speaker 1>in the second quarter alone and pulled off that upset.

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<v Speaker 1>So things happen when you bring in a MAC team.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I've said over and over for years and years,

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between the MAC and other Power five conferences

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes is depth. They've got good players. They put players

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, they just don't have as many, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not up and down the starting lineup, and clearly not

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<v Speaker 1>through the first forty four. But they've got kids who

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<v Speaker 1>either used to play for the powerhouse teams or believe

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<v Speaker 1>they should be playing, or maybe they should have been

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<v Speaker 1>and then they were overlooked and recruiting or the lay

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<v Speaker 1>bloomers whatever. So MAC teams are dangerous, and Kentucky needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready on Saturday. If it isn't, imagine the backlash,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's been backlash already to Mark stoops and he

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<v Speaker 1>knows that. He referred to it at a press conference yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about it at Link last night with

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<v Speaker 1>Tom and I'd love to know why he knows, or

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<v Speaker 1>how he knows, and how much he knows about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because he clearly was referring to people's second guessing. Him

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<v Speaker 1>may have just been referring to media people because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of any people did second guessing for that punt.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally did not. And I know anything I say

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to take and they should with a

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<v Speaker 1>grain of salt because I'm on the UK network. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this, prior to the punt, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was the right move. And I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>second guess all you want, but what was your stance

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<v Speaker 1>prior to a decision being made? If it was counter

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<v Speaker 1>to what happened and what happened didn't work, you have

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<v Speaker 1>every right second guess, and then that's what fans do

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<v Speaker 1>and I get that. But prior to that play, and

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it on the State Wide Show last

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<v Speaker 1>night with Aaron Gershan and Jeff Pikoro, I believed that

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<v Speaker 1>that was the right thing to do. Why because the

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<v Speaker 1>approach he was taking at that point play conservatively played

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<v Speaker 1>for field position and let your defense put you in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to win. The game had worked all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up to that very moment. So do you abandon

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<v Speaker 1>that and throw the football in fourth and eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you'd have to against a team that had done

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<v Speaker 1>a great job against your passing game, not so much

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<v Speaker 1>against your run game. Wildcats rushed for two hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>against Georgia. When you throw out all the sack and TfL, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to keep the TfL yardage, throw out the

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<v Speaker 1>sack yardage and then the rushing yards or even more impressive, So, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do that. Georgia had gotten to Vandergriff, they

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<v Speaker 1>had knocked his passes down that this is not the

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<v Speaker 1>smart play. The smart play was to kick and then

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<v Speaker 1>put your faith in your defense. Now, Kentucky had a

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<v Speaker 1>breakdown on a big pass play and it was, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>told by mister Procoro it was a similar pass play

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<v Speaker 1>to how South Carolina burned the Wildcats last week. They

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<v Speaker 1>got to clean that up, obviously, But hold there, make

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<v Speaker 1>them punt. You get the ball probably within the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five forty five yard lot. Although Georgie had a great punter,

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<v Speaker 1>but still he's not going to pin you near your

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<v Speaker 1>goal line, which he could have done if you give

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<v Speaker 1>the ball up on an incomplete pass and then hold Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Stukes was playing for. And you all know this,

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard him talk about it. But it's interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me how many people second guessed him and ridiculed him

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<v Speaker 1>for not gambling and not quote unot playing to win

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<v Speaker 1>and all that nonsense. He played the game plan he

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<v Speaker 1>and his coordinators had prepared. And the first thing he

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<v Speaker 1>said to Tom Leach in a postgame show, we felt

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<v Speaker 1>like we had the right recipe. They had the right

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<v Speaker 1>game plan. And we know this because Kentucky had a lead,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was down a point because of that game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it wasn't a fluke in that game. You

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<v Speaker 1>were there, you watched it, or you watch it on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the radio. It wasn't all these fluky plays.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one fluky play that resulted in a Kentucky touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called back. Still, I will never understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, these teams were arm wrestling. They were

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<v Speaker 1>like mountain rams knocking heads. This is old fashioned SEC football,

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't good enough for a lot of Kentucky fans.

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<v Speaker 1>One guy in particular tweeted how much he quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>hated Mark Stoops. But it just kind of makes me

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<v Speaker 1>smile and shake my head because, as you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been around here for a long time. I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the seventies with Kentucky football. I covered my first

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<v Speaker 1>game in nineteen seventy five, seeing the ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really interesting to me. And obviously I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>bit older than most of you. So you've got different

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<v Speaker 1>generations of Kentucky football fans, and there are some fans

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<v Speaker 1>who know I won't say only success, but mostly success

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to Kentucky football. Are they spoiled? You

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<v Speaker 1>could call it that. But what happens when you change

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<v Speaker 1>the culture is you change expectations for Kentucky football. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is what Mark Stoops and company have done. They've

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<v Speaker 1>done it within that dozen years. And it wasn't instantaneous.

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<v Speaker 1>What did it take four or five years to where

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fans now expect to win every game, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not realistic, but they do. Kentucky basketball fans are like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is realistic because generally Kentucky has a roster that

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<v Speaker 1>is good enough to beat anybody on a schedule. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I find interesting about when you compare basketball

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<v Speaker 1>and football. There are Kentucky fans who believe that Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>should have not just could have, but should have beaten Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one team in the country. That it should

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, hands down, all right. Those same fans, for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, believe that their favorite basketball team should

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<v Speaker 1>never lose. Why because they're either one of or the

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<v Speaker 1>top ranked team in the country. We're good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>where we shouldn't lose ever. So now your football team

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<v Speaker 1>is playing a football team that, by the same standards

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't lose ever, even though Georgia is now number two

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas. But still you get my drift. But that's fans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the fans. They are short for fanatic, and they

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<v Speaker 1>pay their money and they show up. For the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you showed up Saturday and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Although a lot of you soldier tickets

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<v Speaker 1>to Georgia, fans can't say as I blame you because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be a blowout. Some of you

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<v Speaker 1>you did too, and you can help fund your entire

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<v Speaker 1>season ticket fund. By selling tickets, I hope you got

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<v Speaker 1>good money for it. But there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia fans. But what was so interesting was how quiet

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<v Speaker 1>they were. Georgia fans. Ever, times they had things to

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<v Speaker 1>cheer about, but for the most part they sat there

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<v Speaker 1>looking all these confused looks on their faces, like what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on here? Because their team couldn't convert third

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<v Speaker 1>downs and Kentucky did. Time of possession in the first

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<v Speaker 1>half was two to one. It was almost twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky and ten minutes for Georgia. They literally took

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<v Speaker 1>that crowd out of the game. Kentucky won the last

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes of the first half, won the first four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the second half, plus a few more because

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<v Speaker 1>they held george That's another thing. They start the game off.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky does pinned on its own one yard liner inside

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<v Speaker 1>the one I'm sorry there was no such thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a half yard line, but anyway, and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be ugly. Next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've moved the chains a couple times and get it out.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't score, but they flipped the field and on

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<v Speaker 1>the next possession they scored. And then in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>They hold Georgia early in the first couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball back and drive again, unfortunately for a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, but they scored. They kept putting the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on Georgia. But no, people are unhappy with stoops. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of seasons of been mediocre by the

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<v Speaker 1>new Kentucky standards. Seven wins in a ball game, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, many of us go back, and I keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying it over and over again to where that would

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<v Speaker 1>be caused for a parade down Main Street, and many

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and again of a certain age, never thought

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<v Speaker 1>you would see this happen. And people can shrug it

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<v Speaker 1>off by saying, wow, that's just a product of scheduling.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in terms of the Bowl game record and how

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<v Speaker 1>many times Kentucky's gone consecutive years. If it's that easy

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<v Speaker 1>to schedule ball games or victories that get you there,

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<v Speaker 1>why aren't more teams doing it. Kentucky's doing it, just

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it impressively enough to satisfy fans, And I

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<v Speaker 1>get that, but it's really interesting how people have just

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<v Speaker 1>turned on Stoops. But I said this during the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, maybe more than any other probably the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is the same way. But college football, the community goes

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<v Speaker 1>as the home team goes. If it's a community that

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<v Speaker 1>likes it's college football. If the home team has lost,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole seems like the whole week. Everybody in town's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sullen if they win, if they're on their

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<v Speaker 1>toes just a little bit more. Aren't they bouncing on

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<v Speaker 1>their toes on their way to the grocery store? So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll be bouncing after They'llhio You game coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear from Mark Stoops a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 1>Mark's story. Keith Farmer of LAX eighteen will join us.

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<v Speaker 1>Emmac Grolmes is going to set up the Kentucky Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball match coming up tomorrow night. That's all I had

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<v Speaker 1>on the Big Blon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Bluon Sider. Coming up Saturday, Kentucky football,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats and the Bobcats of Ohio You twelve forty

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<v Speaker 1>five kickoff ten thirty am broadcast time for the UK

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Network with Christy and Jeremy and Logan Kegs and

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<v Speaker 1>Eggs for you folks out there. And it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be nice, Solough, I think we're supposed to get rain

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<v Speaker 1>all week, but I think it's supposed to be nice

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<v Speaker 1>on game day. So the Cats and the Cats, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's an Ohio You team that came in here, as

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<v Speaker 1>we all know, during the Rich Brooks era, which happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Brian nor era at Ohio You. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>nor was an assistant to Jim grob who took over

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio You in nineteen ninety five and did a nice

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<v Speaker 1>his fourth year in twenty oh four, they went four

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. It included a win over the Kentucky Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>on homecoming here in Lexington, but too little, too late,

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<v Speaker 1>he got fired. That brought in Frank Solich, who had

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<v Speaker 1>From ninety eight to twenty oh three. They went to

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<v Speaker 1>wound up getting fired. So he comes to how You

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years. But Ohio You has played in I think

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<v Speaker 1>with these names, and some of these I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve, they played in the Independence Bowl, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar General Bowl in twenty sixteen. I wouldn't mind going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bahamas Bowl. They went there in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Frisco Bowl in twenty eighteen. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even just a five hundred record, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. But Ohio You has been fodder. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio You lost its first five bowl games before breaking

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<v Speaker 1>through with a victory Bobcats two and one, losing to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight twenty two, came back and beat South Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven to twenty Morgan State twenty one to six.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would think Kentucky would have the upper hand

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<v Speaker 1>by far in this one. But will the Wildcats bounce

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<v Speaker 1>coming off that close one with Georgia. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that and nour number one, Mark Stoop, still knows about

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio You. Any coach is going to fear any other team.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mac teams have done well this year, and Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>A team that's a very good team. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time when I say that, most fans

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe me, but I think this year you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell by looking at the Mac and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>very big victories that they've had this year that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not a joke. And people think it's coach speak when

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<v Speaker 2>you sit there and say they're very it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>good league. Good team's good coaches. This staff has been

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<v Speaker 2>together a long time. The head coach. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going in the year four, but he's been there forever.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of annuity. And they played very well,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely bounced on offense, almost two hundred and two hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>I think right right around there, so very bounced offensively, defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>very very tough. They played very hard. They mix things

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<v Speaker 2>up up front. They played both four down, three down,

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<v Speaker 2>and they make you earn every yard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute since the bobcast came in here

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<v Speaker 1>and pulled off that upset. What's have been twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>But anybody who was there that night knows that that

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<v Speaker 1>was not And I just said that was a team

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<v Speaker 1>that ended up four and seven. And Kentucky, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and was just decimated by NCA penalties and scholarship limitations,

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<v Speaker 1>but still should have walked all over that Ohio team

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<v Speaker 1>and did not because they weren't ready to play. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys were still chafing against rich Brooks. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them too, just didn't think of how

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<v Speaker 1>you had it in him to beat the Wildcats, and

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<v Speaker 1>they learned a hard lesson. So obviously the lesson inn

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<v Speaker 1>should have been what it is now for Kentucky in

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<v Speaker 1>that the Wildcats need this week the same focus as

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<v Speaker 1>they prep for how are you that they showed for Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>So it goes back to what I always say, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about us, just like last week, It's about us and

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<v Speaker 2>our preparation and what we do throughout the week to

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<v Speaker 2>put ourselves in a position to win and to have

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<v Speaker 2>confidence by our preparation, you know. And so it's back

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<v Speaker 2>to work and we're looking forward to the opportunity again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the crowd that was here last week, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that made an impact to put us in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to win that game. I wish we could have

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<v Speaker 2>done it for him. We're very close and look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to coming back home here again this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the crowd turns out anything like it was

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, that's going to be a huge advant It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tough to replicate that for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the big time seven thirty game. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>I know why. But the crowd clearly helped the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday against Georgia. But so did the way obviously Kentucky played,

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<v Speaker 1>getting up and getting ready and I wondered. I really

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<v Speaker 1>thought I wouldn't have been surprised if it had been

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<v Speaker 1>a blowout, quite frankly, but they were ready. The Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>look back on that South Carolina game, use that as motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>Zion's childers talk to us about it after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>about how he knew as a leader he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>show his guys quote unquote that he wasn't phased by

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<v Speaker 1>what happened against South Carolina and he was ready to

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<v Speaker 1>move on. And obviously they need to do that this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked Stoops about comments like that from Zion

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<v Speaker 1>and would it meant to get stuff like that, to

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<v Speaker 1>get a reaction like that from one of the team leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the response we're looking for. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership we're looking for. You know, I'll be honest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not get ourselves. I mean it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>a challenging week. Like I said that, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>post game, it was a challenging I mean, none of

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<v Speaker 2>us were very happy. We're still not happy. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>happy because we're lost by one, make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, we're happy with growth. I'm happy with the response.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with the improvement that we made, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm looking for. Yeah, I wanted to win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, heck, I mean you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're here for. But I am, you know, pleased,

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<v Speaker 2>And if we continue to take that attitude and have

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<v Speaker 2>that leadership and that growth, then we'll find the results

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Question is will they be as emotionally ready as they

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<v Speaker 1>were against Georgia. My answered probably not, because it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to replicate that without it being real, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they aren't coming off a horrible, embarrassing loss to South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina as they prepare for Ohio. You they're coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a great but disappointing effort against Georgia. So focus will

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<v Speaker 1>be there and hunger for winning will be there. Might

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<v Speaker 1>be the same, but what they learned last week is

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<v Speaker 1>what they look like when they execute much much better,

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<v Speaker 1>not by anywhere near what they need to be, but

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<v Speaker 1>clearly played their best football. I think they played better

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<v Speaker 1>against Georgia than they did against Southern Myss. With no

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect to us M, but that's not a great football team.

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<v Speaker 1>And Georgia is and is better than Kentucky. But Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>was better than Georgia that night. And that's what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in sports. On some nights, it could be the nine

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten, it could be the ninety nine out

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred factor, but the week team can jump

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<v Speaker 1>up and beat the good team. To the point I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier that down in Athens and in whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>call it bulldog Nation or whatever, they think their team's

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble from what happened here in Lexington. Well maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But what happened was Kentucky played really well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Georgia's struggles Saturday it might have been

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<v Speaker 1>play calling, might have been guys making mistakes or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were prompted by Kentucky. Kentucky had so much

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<v Speaker 1>to do with that. So we'll see, we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>it shakes out. But clearly Wildcats need to pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to things this week. I think they will. We'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back and talk to Mark's story the Hero Leader. In

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<v Speaker 1>just a minute, you're on the Big woon Sider six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty w Welcome back to the Big Bluonsider, joining us

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<v Speaker 1>down a celebrity high line. As a guy who's covered

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<v Speaker 1>more than his share of Kentucky football games, Mark's story

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<v Speaker 1>of the hero leader, a sports columnist who's been added

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, and Mark, I had a feeling you

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<v Speaker 1>were going for something like this when you asked a

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<v Speaker 1>question at the news conference yesterday of Mark Steops. You

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<v Speaker 1>asked him if he second guessed himself about the play

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<v Speaker 1>calling prior to the controversial punt, and your column I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was really intriguing today you said the main criticism

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<v Speaker 1>of Mark Steups these days is completely backwards. Tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>withou given away the store because we't want people to

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<v Speaker 1>read your column. But I thought that was a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting take. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought there's kind of a micro criticism of Stoops

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<v Speaker 3>arising specifically from the Georgia game, and then kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a macro criticism, and I think they're both kind of backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, obviously there's been a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>scrutiny on the decision to punt on fourth and eight

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<v Speaker 3>from the Georgia forty seven. You know, I wish Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>had gone there. I think sometimes you just reach a

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<v Speaker 3>point where you need to put your chips in. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think Mark's explanation for why he did what he

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<v Speaker 3>did has been highly defensible, you know, very logical. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they could not pass block Georgia. The odds of

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<v Speaker 3>them converting a fourth and eight were not high. You

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<v Speaker 3>still had three timeouts, you had the two minute time out.

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<v Speaker 3>Your best This is me saying it's not Mark Stoops,

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<v Speaker 3>but the best unit on the Kentucky team is the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You're basically putting them out there, giving them a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to to put you in position to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other point he makes, if you go for

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<v Speaker 3>it and don't get it, even if you force Georgia

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<v Speaker 3>three and out, you're going to have to drive the

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<v Speaker 3>entire length of the field in a predictable pass situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's just no reason to think Kentucky can block

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia in that situation. So, you know, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you were probably twelve yards from giving your field goal kicker,

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<v Speaker 3>who was having the night of his life, a realistic

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<v Speaker 3>chance to win that game. You know, I think probably

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<v Speaker 3>if were my decision, I would have gone just feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, sometimes you just have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>put your chips in and go. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think kind of the anger at Stoops is a

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<v Speaker 3>little misdirected because I again I think his rationale for

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<v Speaker 3>why he did what he did make sense. Now that

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<v Speaker 3>for me is the Georgia game. And I'll you know

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing that fascinates me about that is, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the single biggest criticism of the Mark Stoops coaching here

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<v Speaker 3>has been sort of some irrational risk taking on fourth down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I cited in the column several cases where Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>in his tenure, it's happened in the middle of his tenure,

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<v Speaker 3>and it happened two weeks ago against South Carolina. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's this idea and in some ways, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they are conservatives. Their best teams have been you know,

418
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<v Speaker 3>ball control, run the football, rock rib defense. You know

419
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<v Speaker 3>that that I get that. But the biggest problem in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of his game management is not that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>take risk, that he's taken some irrationals. I admit that

422
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<v Speaker 3>there's an inconsistency here because I kind of wanted him

423
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<v Speaker 3>to take an irrational risk on that fourth down. It

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<v Speaker 3>gets Georgia, right, But yeah, you know, the the over

425
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<v Speaker 3>kind of the overweening criticism that he's too conservative at

426
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<v Speaker 3>least in terms of his game management, that the bigger

427
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<v Speaker 3>problem has been the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>You've kind of circled this topic. But tell me again

429
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<v Speaker 1>why you think he should have gone forward on fourth down.

430
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<v Speaker 1>You said you got to push your chips to the

431
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<v Speaker 1>middle of the table. I mean, because there's also the

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<v Speaker 1>argument that, well, if if hope is part of your plan,

433
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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a plan. You know, you could hope

434
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<v Speaker 1>that they that they either draw a penalty or complete

435
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<v Speaker 1>the pass. But what Georgia has been so good against,

436
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<v Speaker 1>as Stupe said, predicted past situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just think you were, you know, a field

438
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<v Speaker 3>goal away from just a program altering win, and that

439
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<v Speaker 3>just changes your program. And like I said, given the

440
00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:46.359
<v Speaker 3>night that Alex Rayner was having, you probably needed twelve yards.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for all the reasons Mark is listed while

442
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<v Speaker 3>he punted, I find them, I find them compelling. I

443
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<v Speaker 3>think they made sense. I just think you know you're that.

444
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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes to finish off number one team in

445
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<v Speaker 3>the kind tree, the best program in the country over

446
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<v Speaker 3>the last three years, you know, the Titan of the SEC,

447
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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes to figure finish them off you're going

448
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<v Speaker 3>to have to hit on something that doesn't make sense. Yeah,

449
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<v Speaker 3>And I just think that was kind of a moment,

450
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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like I said, my biggest criticism of Mark,

451
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<v Speaker 3>the Mark Stoops in game coaching in his era is

452
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<v Speaker 3>irrational fourth down attempts. But in this case, I you know,

453
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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of felt like they needed, Like I said,

454
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<v Speaker 3>you're twelve yards from being in a position to do

455
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<v Speaker 3>something that changes your program. I think maybe, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe that was the time to to take

457
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<v Speaker 3>an irrational.

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<v Speaker 1>Risk, if ever there were a time. Yeah, Yeah, No,

459
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<v Speaker 1>you make you make a compelling argument, because you're right,

460
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<v Speaker 1>if they make the first down there, they're really close,

461
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<v Speaker 1>and we had seen that. Let's say they get they

462
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<v Speaker 1>move the change. Let's say they get a first down.

463
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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got plenty of time and three more downs

464
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<v Speaker 1>to move the ball on the ground and further help

465
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<v Speaker 1>your kicker. How surprised were you at the way Kentucky

466
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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball against Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was surprised that they were able to run

468
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<v Speaker 3>it so effectively at Georgia, in between the tackles and

469
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<v Speaker 3>probably the you know, I think again I would have

470
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<v Speaker 3>gone for it, but I think the reason Mark is

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<v Speaker 3>laid out for why he punted are eminently logical. It's

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<v Speaker 3>an eminently defensible decision. I think the most the more

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<v Speaker 3>second guest thing is there is the play calling leading

474
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<v Speaker 3>up to this decision. Defined. You know, you had it

475
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<v Speaker 3>second and eight. You know, the way you've run the ball,

476
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<v Speaker 3>and the way and the difficulty you've had pass protecting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you sort of just say, Okay, this is

478
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<v Speaker 3>going to be a four down area and we're going

479
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<v Speaker 3>to try to run it, keep and just and just

480
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<v Speaker 3>just keep running it, and you can get it to

481
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<v Speaker 3>fourth and two or fourth and three, then you can

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<v Speaker 3>go for that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that would have been a question, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hindsight twenty twenty, sure, there's no question about that.

486
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<v Speaker 3>But I think I think, you know, and Mark, to

487
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<v Speaker 3>his credit, you know, he admitted yesterday he regrets that

488
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<v Speaker 3>they didn't just try to grind it keep grinding it

489
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<v Speaker 3>on them. Yeah, because that's the success they had had.

490
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<v Speaker 3>And I don't have this in front of me, but

491
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<v Speaker 3>I looked at they had. You know, Mark makes a

492
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<v Speaker 3>fair point. They didn't complete, They didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of explosive playing there. You know, there weren't a lot

494
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<v Speaker 3>of successful passes for more than more than eight yard

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<v Speaker 3>in that game for Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's one thing. And again I started this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with you by referencing your question. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>very pointed question of Mark, and I do respect the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he told you, essentially, yeah, that he regretted,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has said that before, And I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>respect that about a head coach because how many times

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<v Speaker 1>have we heard coaches stubbornly say no, it was the

503
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<v Speaker 1>right move, we just didn't do it right or something

504
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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, and they sticking by the original

505
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<v Speaker 1>plan when clearly if he had to do it over again,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have done it differently, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you know, I'm I'm always a little reluctant

508
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<v Speaker 3>to get into strategy second guessing because most evaluations of

509
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 3>strategy are just completely outcome based. You know, if it

510
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<v Speaker 3>worked on the field, then it was brilliant. If it

511
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<v Speaker 3>didn't work, it wasn't. And I think sometimes the right

512
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<v Speaker 3>strategy or the right call doesn't work out, but it's

513
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<v Speaker 3>still the right was the right thing to do in

514
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<v Speaker 3>that circumstance. But in this case, you know, I just

515
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<v Speaker 3>think given the difficulty Kentucky was having pass blocking and

516
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<v Speaker 3>just given how good the Georgia defense was, there were

517
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<v Speaker 3>times in that game where the Kentucky receiver appeared to

518
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<v Speaker 3>be open and Vandergriff put the ball where it normally

519
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 3>would have needed to go, and Georgia was just so

520
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>fast they could close that window before the ball got there.

521
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<v Speaker 3>And it's not a knock on arm strength or anything.

522
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<v Speaker 3>It's just, you know, Georgia is really good. There's I

523
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<v Speaker 3>think sometimes in analysis of games we forget, you know,

524
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<v Speaker 3>there's two teams out there, and in this particular case,

525
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<v Speaker 3>that other team is pretty good. Defense was really good,

526
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I think that you know, impacts kind

527
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<v Speaker 3>of how you need to view the view the end

528
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 3>of game scenario. You know, it was interesting somebody was

529
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<v Speaker 3>tweeting around and that's something that they were attributing to

530
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<v Speaker 3>ESPN that had Kentucky gone for it, they had, you know,

531
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<v Speaker 3>thirty four percent chance to win. By planning, they had

532
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>an eight percent chance or something. And I'm a believer

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<v Speaker 3>in metrics if that in fact was on the up

534
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<v Speaker 3>and up. But the problem with those kind of metrics

535
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<v Speaker 3>is they're they're general metrics, they're not specific to the

536
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<v Speaker 3>game at hand and the problems Kentucky was having blocking

537
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<v Speaker 3>Georgia in past protection. I think alters, you know, some

538
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 3>of those I think that specific case may have been

539
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<v Speaker 3>different than the general metrics suggested.

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<v Speaker 1>My feeling on metrics in case you're interested, I I

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<v Speaker 1>equate them with the Dosag index that pops up around

542
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<v Speaker 1>derby time. You know what I'm talking about, right I do? Okay,

543
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>who invented that. It's basically a formula For those of

544
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<v Speaker 1>you who don't follow, it's a formula that indicates breeding

545
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<v Speaker 1>and what horses have a chance to win the Derby

546
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<v Speaker 1>based on their pedigree. And it's less believable now because

547
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<v Speaker 1>of the way the breed has basically been diluted through

548
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<v Speaker 1>the years, But for the longest time it kind of

549
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<v Speaker 1>served as an indicator of what horses had a chance

550
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<v Speaker 1>to win the Derby. Strike the Gold was the first

551
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<v Speaker 1>horse in nineteen ninety one that defied the dosage and

552
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<v Speaker 1>as Paul Rogers put it on his radio call, Strike

553
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<v Speaker 1>to Go breaks the Derby jinks. But the guy who

554
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<v Speaker 1>invented it try to point out it's not a handicapping tool,

555
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<v Speaker 1>and to me, analytics are similar in that analytics in

556
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<v Speaker 1>my mind, they look backwards. They tell you here's what

557
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<v Speaker 1>has happened in the past in situations like this, to

558
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<v Speaker 1>your point, Mark, not what's going to happen next. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they exist because they have data from many, many games,

560
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<v Speaker 1>and they you know, simulated games and all that stuff.

561
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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't mean if you do this, here's what's

562
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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it does now. I do think there

564
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<v Speaker 3>can be a predictive quality to the accumulation of stats

565
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<v Speaker 3>over a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did.

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<v Speaker 3>But as you know, that is kind of a general

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<v Speaker 3>it's a general overview, though it doesn't take into account

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<v Speaker 3>the specifics of an individual game. Right as we were

570
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<v Speaker 3>saying earlier, you know, Kentucky's difficulty pass walking the Georgia

571
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<v Speaker 3>rush is not something that is accounted for within a

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<v Speaker 3>general metric of what normally would happen in the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Acts Mark Stories, my guest columnist for The Harold Leader,

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<v Speaker 1>will come back with a few more questions for mister

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<v Speaker 1>Story in just a minute. Here on the Big Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Sider six point thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stories. Worts, columnists for the hair leader. Looking ahead

578
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<v Speaker 1>now to Ohio. You and again another horse racing analogy mark.

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<v Speaker 1>But you wonder will this Kentucky team bounce coming off

580
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<v Speaker 1>this Georgia close call?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are kids, people are human beings. Wouldn't be surprising,

583
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<v Speaker 1>would it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to wonder about that. But given how badly,

585
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<v Speaker 3>given that South Carolina performance, they they don't have any

586
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<v Speaker 3>room for bouncing at this point. They and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio University, I don't know for a Kentucky team that

588
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 3>has struggled so much offensively, you know, and needs to

589
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 3>get the ball in the end zone. I think Ohio

590
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<v Speaker 3>can be a tough, kind of a difficult matchup because

591
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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna, you know, they're they're gonna make you beat them.

592
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<v Speaker 3>They're not gonna make mistakes themselves. You're gonna have to

593
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<v Speaker 3>drive it on them. You're gonna have to do the

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<v Speaker 3>little things right. And you know, you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>if Kentucky can do that. I think obviously Kentucky needs

596
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<v Speaker 3>to win the game, and you know we can. The

597
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<v Speaker 3>MAC has had some huge wins so far this year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously the key to the big one and

599
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>there was Northern Illinois beating Notre Dame in South Bend.

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<v Speaker 3>But you look at what Toledo did last week to

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<v Speaker 3>the Mississippi State, which they just absolutely bludgeoned Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is not a team to take for granted,

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<v Speaker 3>because Ohio has won ten games each of the past

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<v Speaker 3>two years. So you know, we'll see. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think it would help Kentucky if they could

606
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<v Speaker 3>get some points on the board early and sort of

607
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<v Speaker 3>get control of this and kind of play free and

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<v Speaker 3>easy and and just try to get some things worked

609
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<v Speaker 3>out offensively. You know, it's possible that they've seen the

610
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<v Speaker 3>two best pass rushes help this year, yes, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's you know, at least in theory, things

612
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<v Speaker 3>could get a little easier just in terms of trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get the passing game going. But yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much about Texas. I'm sure now that

615
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<v Speaker 1>they're the number one team, the long Oarners probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good pass rush that our own. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of which teams have generated the most talk the

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<v Speaker 1>edge rushers, it's been South Carolina and Georgia. A few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left with Mark story of the hero Leader, you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Kentucky paraphrasing getting right against Ohio, at least offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know about Brock vandergriff right now? And then?

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's clearly a work in progress. He has

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<v Speaker 1>started all of three games in his college career. But

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<v Speaker 1>what can we tell about him?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like I can tell a lot. I

626
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 3>don't have a good feel for him either way. I

627
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<v Speaker 3>do think he's got some toughness about him, which is

628
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<v Speaker 3>a good thing, but you know, otherwise, you know, he's

629
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<v Speaker 3>been under so much dirass, I don't really have a

630
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<v Speaker 3>good feel for him as a passer or what's possible

631
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<v Speaker 3>me neither.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into the Georgia game, had you altered your outlook

633
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<v Speaker 1>on what you thought Kentucky would accomplish this year? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I have to admit I did, and I'm usually not

635
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<v Speaker 1>one to do that, but I was so surprised by

636
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<v Speaker 1>what I saw or what I didn't see from the

637
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, I thought to myself, I don't know if

638
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys can can win three games this year? You

639
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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I guess for me. Once the South

641
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Carolina game ended, I you know, I thought we needed

642
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<v Speaker 3>to wait and see if that was kind of a

643
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 3>one off just on all systems failure or whether you know,

644
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that was the Kentucky team. To me, though, once they

645
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<v Speaker 3>lost that South Carolina game, the point of the season

646
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 3>became just trying to extend the ball Street. Yes, I

647
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 3>think the chances to have the quote unquote breakthrough season

648
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>that the fans so yearned for given the difficulty of

649
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the schedule, and that once I mean that South Carolina

650
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 3>game was a game they had to win and once

651
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<v Speaker 3>they didn't. To me, the goal now is to just

652
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<v Speaker 3>keep the ball Street going, try to have a winning season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know what's interesting to me is I've

654
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<v Speaker 1>I've heard and read comments about the rest of the schedule,

655
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think people and not that we're looking

656
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 1>past o how you but we can do that if

657
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<v Speaker 1>we want to, because we're the media. I don't think

658
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<v Speaker 1>enough people are really giving ole Miss enough credit, especially

659
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<v Speaker 1>based on what's happened through the last few years. Was

660
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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss. I mean, that's going to be a tough

661
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<v Speaker 1>road trip, you know.

662
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<v Speaker 3>I actually in the precinct thought that was a game

663
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky could win. Kentucky's played them so tough, and you know,

664
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<v Speaker 3>the last three meetings have gone basically to the very end,

665
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 3>and Kentucky's lost them all. Partly just felt to me

666
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 3>like Kentucky was doing that. And I think ole Miss,

667
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<v Speaker 3>while impressive, has not played anybody their their schedule. Kentucky's

668
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<v Speaker 3>going to go into that game having played two SEC

669
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<v Speaker 3>games and if nothing else has been tested, ole Miss

670
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 3>is not. But you know, they have been impressive, and

671
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<v Speaker 3>I guess my question now, I just don't know that Kentucky,

672
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<v Speaker 3>even if Kentucky's defense, can impact ole Miss, and I

673
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<v Speaker 3>will be disappointed if they don't. I just don't know

674
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<v Speaker 3>that Kentucky can score enough to tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it would help if they get if and

676
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 1>when they get Chip training him back, but I do

677
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<v Speaker 1>I've been pleasantly surprised by Sumo Karnbay. How do you

678
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<v Speaker 1>feel about what he's done?

679
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, you know, maybe they don't have any

680
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, a game breaker, somebody that can just take

681
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<v Speaker 3>it to the house. But I think the running game

682
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 3>has been good. You know, I don't train him. Is

683
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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to be really good to be better than

684
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Demmy's been so far.

685
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we knew he had speed on the edges,

686
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<v Speaker 1>but between the tackles he's been a pleasant surprise. Mark

687
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<v Speaker 1>Story columnist for The Hair Leader. You can find his

688
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<v Speaker 1>work via Kentucky dot com or follow him on x

689
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>slash Twitter at Mark C. Story. Thank you, Sarah, we

690
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<v Speaker 1>will see you at the ballgame.

691
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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Dick, appreciate you having me.

692
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<v Speaker 1>I truly do recommend his column today because when I

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<v Speaker 1>heard Mark ask the question in the news conference yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, do you regret, and again Stoops was

695
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<v Speaker 1>quite frank. I really thought the colin would be about it.

696
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<v Speaker 1>Some of it is, but he just sort of touches

697
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<v Speaker 1>on the decision to punt, and I thought maybe it

698
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<v Speaker 1>would be Mark Stoops is too conservative kind of story,

699
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<v Speaker 1>but he goes back and no pun intended. Mark's story

700
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and he chronicles decisions that have been made and they're

701
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a handful, but they were big ones where Stoops made

702
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the wrong decision and coaches do this, but ironically enough

703
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<v Speaker 1>you would expect as Mark wrote that the way Mark

704
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Stoops coaches, his style conservative ground game defense would be

705
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<v Speaker 1>more about not taking risks and maybe they should have.

706
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 1>That happened with Rich Brooks a couple of times cost

707
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>him a win over Tennessee one year, but with Stoops Yeah,

708
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he's made some calls that backfired and cost the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting and I commend that to you. I'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>two is next. Keith Farmer coming up next here on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moons, Sighter

712
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<v Speaker 1>joining us on our celebrity hotline. Longtime friend and colleague

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<v Speaker 1>mister Keith Farmer of LAX eighteen and a UK TV network.

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<v Speaker 1>You see his work every night on BBN. Tonight, came in.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I chatted at the Stoops Fresh conference yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But tell me the truth. Going into that Georgia game,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you expect?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I did not have a lot of high expectations

719
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<v Speaker 4>because what we saw against South Carolina was so surprised,

720
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<v Speaker 4>especially with the pass blocking and everything that was going

721
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<v Speaker 4>on defensively. I just thought, Wow, maybe this team isn't

722
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<v Speaker 4>as good as we thought, you know, I mean that

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<v Speaker 4>was just my natural instinct that I think a lot

724
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<v Speaker 4>of people had that. And then to see what they

725
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<v Speaker 4>did to come back and turn that around, I think

726
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 4>it was so amazing the fights that they put up.

727
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, going in, I thought this could get ugly,

728
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 4>and certainly Kentucky stepped up to the challenge and you

729
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<v Speaker 4>got to be proud of proud of him for that

730
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 4>being right there a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You all featured Zion Childers as we did on the radio,

732
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<v Speaker 1>and full disclosure, we often for the BBN project we

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<v Speaker 1>share the player of the game. And I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Kinsey and she's like, you're going to talk to Zion.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, yeah, because what a game he had.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said similar things to you guys that he said to us,

738
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<v Speaker 1>and that was he knew he had to put that

739
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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina game behind him and be ready, and he

740
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>had to show the younger players how to do that.

741
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<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed by that, weren't you.

742
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<v Speaker 4>Very And I mean, you know, naturally, after a game

743
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 4>happens like that, I think everybody looked at themselves that's

744
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<v Speaker 4>what can I do better? Yeah, but for him to

745
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 4>say I can be better, you know, to the younger guys,

746
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 4>they're probably looking up at him, going, maybe you played

747
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.519
<v Speaker 4>pretty well that game, you know, how can you step

748
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 4>up better? And he certainly did. He was one of

749
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 4>those guys that was I mean, from the moment the

750
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 4>first kickoff happened, he was just out there making plays

751
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 4>and seemed to be creating havoc, and I do like

752
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you know that everyone seemed to kind of have that

753
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 4>same feeling. Look, we didn't like how we played against

754
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<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, and you may have remembered, like all through

755
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 4>the week people saying, do your job, do your job,

756
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like that's what they did. They did

757
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 4>their job, and they gave them a chance to knock

758
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 4>off the number one team in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. I don't know how much you've had a

760
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 1>chance to pay attention, but some of the tweets and

761
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 1>social media and just regular media down there in Georgia,

762
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with the Bulldogs after that game? You know?

763
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<v Speaker 1>And then they'll give it the perfunctory. I got to

764
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>give Kentucky credit, but you know that I think clearly

765
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that goes back to South Carolina and the perception people have.

766
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>But in college footballs, you know came in, you've done

767
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 1>this for a long time. Everything changes dramatically from week

768
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to week, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, think about how we thought South Carolina coming in, Yes,

770
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 4>because the way they had played the week before, and

771
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 4>so we thought this was almost going to be a walkover,

772
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 4>and then they turned it around, you know, and you're right.

773
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think you're getting to that point now

774
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 4>with Kentucky. They're like, all right, they took the one

775
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 4>loss and the second one they were right there, but

776
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.119
<v Speaker 4>now they know they've got to, you know, buckle down.

777
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 4>It's going to be hard to beat this Kentucky team

778
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 4>now because they know their backs are against the wall

779
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 4>with two losses. They've got to come out week and

780
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 4>show that growth that coach Stops was talking about on

781
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Monday and try and get better and better.

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00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Question is are they good enough? And I've been banging

783
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this drum all year long and it's you know, comes

784
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>back to the old line, which was impressive when it

785
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.599
<v Speaker 1>came to running in football. Still some issues with pass protection, Keith,

786
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.599
<v Speaker 1>But I think there's still a lot of room for improvement.

787
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think they're capable. The key is they're capable

788
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:29.119
<v Speaker 1>of getting better, aren't they sure?

789
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<v Speaker 4>And especially to show what they did against Georgia. And

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<v Speaker 4>now I know they played it a little differently with

791
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 4>a lot of play action and things like that, but

792
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 4>they certainly ran the ball against Georgia, which was impressive.

793
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know they They've got a couple of guys

794
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 4>along the line. It's their first year here along the

795
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.639
<v Speaker 4>big Blue wall. I'm wondering almost if it isn't just

796
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 4>one of those things that takes them a little while

797
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 4>to jail. And unfortunately, you're you know, you had a

798
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.639
<v Speaker 4>couple of tough games off the bat with you know,

799
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.960
<v Speaker 4>some of the best defensive linemen in the country in

800
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina and Georgia. So you know, maybe now they

801
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 4>can settle in here after a couple of games and

802
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>have more film to look at and can show what

803
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<v Speaker 4>they need to do to improve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they were I thought embarrassed by South Carolina,

805
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>but then they redeemed themselves in an even tougher situation. Yeah,

806
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you're right. Soacharna got some great young edge rushers. But

807
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and granted Georgia had one or two guys out banged up,

808
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>they're still Georgia. And those guys acquitted themselves, didn't they

809
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 1>against the number one or two team in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I certainly thought so. I thought that a you know, again,

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<v Speaker 4>that's one of the things that I think I was

812
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 4>most concerned about going into that Georgia game was the

813
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.679
<v Speaker 4>offensive line, and that's what worried me that Brock wasn't

814
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<v Speaker 4>going to have time to throw, they were going to

815
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<v Speaker 4>be able to get a push to get the run going,

816
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 4>and they came through, and they showed that they could

817
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 4>do it, you know, against the team like that. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's very encouraging moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking up, Brock, what did you think of his performance?

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<v Speaker 4>Again? I think he took a step forward. I think

821
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<v Speaker 4>you know, some of that, you'll go back and look

822
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<v Speaker 4>at the South Carolina game. They didn't put it all

823
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<v Speaker 4>on the offensive line. Some of that was like, look,

824
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<v Speaker 4>he's got to get rid of the ball. Yeah, And

825
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<v Speaker 4>I thought he did a better job of surveying where

826
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<v Speaker 4>he was going with the ball. The play action certainly

827
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 4>helped with that. But I think again he took a

828
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<v Speaker 4>step forward, and it can only give you confidence heading forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to admit that I have been just short

830
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<v Speaker 1>of amazed by Demi Sumol Karnbay because having gone to

831
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<v Speaker 1>one of the scrimmages, having watched him last year, I thought, man,

832
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<v Speaker 1>when this kid gets on the edges, he is going

833
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<v Speaker 1>to be fun to watch. But I was skeptical about

834
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>his ability to run between the tackles. And I know

835
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you did preseason interviews with him, as did I, and

836
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 1>he was confident, but everybody's confident in August, you know.

837
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.559
<v Speaker 1>But he has proven me wrong.

838
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 4>He definitely has, because he was showing the other night

839
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 4>against Georgia that you know, hey, I'm going to take

840
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 4>it up the middle, and I'm tough to get down,

841
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to keep turning those legs. And so

842
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 4>I think, for me a little like you, I was

843
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 4>impressed by the way he got out there and continued

844
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 4>to you know, take the ball and want to take

845
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 4>it up the middle and not necessarily get it out

846
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 4>on the edge, you know. Uh, and just being a

847
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 4>tough guy to get down. That was fun to watch.

848
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>You make a great point. He was able to move

849
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 1>the pile, you know. And yeah, I had people helping him,

850
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, yeah, just his drive like I never

851
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>thought he could. But there's a reason they spent so

852
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 1>much time in the weight room, right, you know.

853
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 4>And I and I talked to him. I talked to

854
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 4>him after the South Carolina game. I think you did too, right, Yeah,

855
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 4>And that was one of those He was very appreciative

856
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 4>of his offensive line, even though maybe they didn't have

857
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 4>to great now. They they ran blocked pretty well in

858
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:50.880
<v Speaker 4>that game. It was the past that wasn't as well

859
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 4>done as well. Yeah, but he was very appreciative and

860
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.119
<v Speaker 4>that he seems like one of those guys that kind

861
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 4>of keeps urging his his guys up front. You know,

862
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 4>just give me a little bit of space, I'll make

863
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:01.360
<v Speaker 4>something happen.

864
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I'm curious about, and supposedly it's in

865
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the playbook and the bush Handen playbook, is throwing the

866
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 1>ball to the running backs. Now, I guess maybe the

867
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>game plan hasn't allowed for that, but that would allow

868
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you to see Demi out in space a little bit

869
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. But I'm also really curious. I like what

870
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I've seen about the two young running backs. But man,

871
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.519
<v Speaker 1>after meeting Chip train him, seeing how big he is

872
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and seeing how that complimentary run game him and Demi,

873
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 1>now that should move Kentucky up, I would think considerably

874
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>in the run game.

875
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if they can just get him healthy. You know,

876
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't sound like at all chance of coming back

877
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 4>this week still out. But yeah, you talk about your

878
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 4>lightning and thunder and that kind of you know, running

879
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 4>back duo. I could certainly see that happening because then

880
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 4>Demi wouldn't have to as much pound that ball straight ahead.

881
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>You could let Chip do that and then demmy, could

882
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, not only hit inside but also really bound

883
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 4>from those of the outside and get the edge. Like

884
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 4>we were talking about Keith.

885
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Farmer, my guest WLAX sports director. You see him on

886
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>BBN tonight. We'll come back and talk more football, a

887
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 1>little basketball. What came in on the other side of

888
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're

889
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 1>talking with Keith Farmer. He is a sports director at

890
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>l e X eighteen and you see him each night

891
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>on BBN Tonight with Miss Maggie Davis. And of course

892
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the football Wildcats. I was talking during

893
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a previous segment Keith about a lot of the fans.

894
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, want to say a lot, but there's

895
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 1>a segment of fans who, of course have turned on

896
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops within the previous couple of years, the last

897
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of mediocre seasons and then naturally what happened with

898
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. You've been around for a while, not quite

899
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.599
<v Speaker 1>as old as I am, but you've worked all over

900
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the state of Kentucky and hazard election in Louisville back

901
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to election, and I got to think none of that

902
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>surprises you. Being the grizzled.

903
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 4>Veteran that you are, especially in this day and age

904
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 4>of X social media any kind, right, I mean, it's

905
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.639
<v Speaker 4>so easy to get on and complain about something. It's

906
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 4>usually a vocal minority that that does all of that.

907
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, well Mark Students has done at Kentucky has

908
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 4>been a remarkable run and one that you know, I know,

909
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 4>I saw you you kind of reacting to somebody from

910
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 4>the Loysville area who thinks he's overpaid and this and

911
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.639
<v Speaker 4>that and you know hasn't done it all that much

912
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 4>and you had to remind him. You know, man, there

913
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 4>have been some dark days at Kentucky where people just

914
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 4>showed up and they knew they were losing games. Yeah,

915
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, now they know their end games. And obviously

916
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.000
<v Speaker 4>by what happened last week with Georgia, I mean, Kentucky

917
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 4>was in that game and a player or two away

918
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 4>from making that upset happen.

919
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what's would I think impressed me in the

920
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 1>most key And I talked about this in the show earlier,

921
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 1>was it wasn't because of fluky plays. The only flukey

922
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 1>playing a game was wiped off the board. I mean,

923
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 1>there were you know, people drop the ball or block

924
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>kicks or these dramatic turnaround It was just it was

925
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 1>an old school football game. And but Carl pointed this out.

926
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>He said, it was like a one nothing baseball game.

927
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:12.840
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people won't like that, but a lot

928
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of people love the drama. And hardly anybody left. Everybody

929
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>was on the edge of their seat.

930
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that right, That right fair shows you

931
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 4>how many people are behind Stuits in this program, right

932
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 4>the way that the atmosphere was on Saturday night, And yeah,

933
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 4>it was one of those I know people look at

934
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 4>it go thirteen twelve. That was a great game to watch.

935
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean there were a lot of plays back and

936
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 4>forth from both teams, you know that. I mean again,

937
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Georgia had to earn that victory. They didn't just come

938
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 4>in and walk out with it. They had to earn

939
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 4>it to every play. And all you got to do

940
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 4>is listen to Kirby Smarts and know that what did you.

941
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Think we've gone here, what eleven and a half minutes?

942
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the decision to punch the football? Yeah?

943
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the last punt. Yeah, you know, after hearing Stoops

944
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 4>talk about it more on Monday, it kind of made sense.

945
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 4>You know that he wanted to try and flip the field. Look,

946
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 4>the defensive played pretty well, right, and if he goes

947
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.039
<v Speaker 4>for it, there Georgia easily if they don't run the

948
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:18.159
<v Speaker 4>clock out, don't get a field goal, then you know,

949
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky's got almost the length of the field in a

950
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 4>very little amount of time minute or so. So to

951
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 4>try and do what he did, to try and flip

952
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 4>the field, it made more sense to me. Now, I

953
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you line ten coaches up, you know

954
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 4>how many of them are going to do that in

955
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 4>that situation. I have no idea, you know, especially you know,

956
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 4>knowing that you're on that Kentucky sideline and what's at stakes,

957
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 4>and so I have to be behind him because that's

958
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 4>what he felt in his heart, that he needed to

959
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.719
<v Speaker 4>flip the field, make the stop and have a chance

960
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 4>at a punt that maybe they only go fifty sixty

961
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 4>yards instead the eighty.

962
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know they needed was a field goal.

963
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.119
<v Speaker 4>They need it in the end, exactly. Yeah, yeah, you

964
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't have to get any inso correct correct At.

965
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>The time he made the decision, how did you feel

966
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 1>were you thinking they go for it? Did you think

967
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:09.199
<v Speaker 1>they needed to go for it.

968
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at the time, I thought, go for it. Yeah,

969
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 4>you got to you got to make this happen. You

970
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 4>got to keep the ball because George is gonna run

971
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 4>out the fuck. That's how it felt. And so yeah,

972
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.079
<v Speaker 4>I didn't agree with it at first. You're correct, Well.

973
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>You weren't alone. A lot of people. A lot of

974
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>people agreed with you there.

975
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you could hear it from

976
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 4>the groans in the stadium, you know, even even on

977
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 4>on TV you could hear it, you know. So yeah,

978
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 4>you know that people wanted to even go for it.

979
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's that the game came down to that. I thought

980
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.079
<v Speaker 1>it was fascinating, you know. I mean, it was unfortunate

981
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky and the fans the way it ended. But

982
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>who would have thought that that game would come down

983
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to the decision by the coach that was behind on

984
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the scoreboard should I kick it or should I keep it?

985
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>With three minutes to play. You just don't see that

986
00:52:58.119 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 1>very often.

987
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 4>It almost makes you wonder what if? Right?

988
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

989
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Like I'd love to be able to go

990
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.000
<v Speaker 4>back in time and have them hold on to the

991
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 4>wall and go for it unforeto down, just to know,

992
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 4>just to know how how would have been different the.

993
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Big night at the stadium, Tim Kouch was introduced, got

994
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a great ovation and even some Georgia fans were applauding him.

995
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope was there, and I think there is team

996
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 1>they were there, But I guess that was one of

997
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the big upsets is they weren't introduced at that game.

998
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess they will be at some point. It's not

999
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the first time they've been at a Kentucky football game

1000
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>as a team, right, But Mark kind of hung back,

1001
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>stayed by the tunnel, you know. I was talking to

1002
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the commissioner and then shaking hands with people, but looking

1003
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 1>ahead to his team. They are still flying beneath the

1004
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>radar came in not in the big Blue Nation. But

1005
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>are you surprised at all that none of the pundits

1006
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 1>have jumped up and said, hey, here's a team you

1007
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>need to be looking at, because clearly nobody really knows

1008
00:53:57.920 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 1>what to expect.

1009
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now it doesn't surprise me. I mean everybody was

1010
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 4>so much behind, you know, knowing what cal would bring

1011
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 4>to it a season, you know, especially with the talent

1012
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.280
<v Speaker 4>that he would have, and I think everybody just maybe

1013
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 4>kind of kind of curious this first season with Mark Pope. Again,

1014
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 4>I've said this a lot about him being on more

1015
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 4>of the west coast side of the state. Yeah, not

1016
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people stayed up and watched his teams

1017
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 4>to see how they play. And so I think, you know,

1018
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 4>once he gets out there with this this group, I

1019
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.920
<v Speaker 4>mean it's the group he had to put together, the

1020
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 4>group that he has, I still think could be impressed.

1021
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.920
<v Speaker 4>It could be a really good three point shooting team,

1022
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 4>and they're certainly going to take a lot of them,

1023
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 4>so if they can play a little defense, maybe get

1024
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of inside work, I think they could

1025
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 4>be one of those teams that people are eventually going

1026
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 4>to be talking about once we get into the season.

1027
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just depends on, duh, if the ball goes

1028
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in the basket, Because like Caliberry said, you can you

1029
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>can have three point shooters, but you have to have

1030
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 1>three point makers and if they make them, then yeah,

1031
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's going to make the rest of that

1032
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 1>team dangerous.

1033
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we remember the Patino days, right when they

1034
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 4>were jacking up three. It was the occasional night where

1035
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 4>it just didn't fall for any of them. So yeah,

1036
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 4>you have to live with it and die with it.

1037
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, I guess statistically you could see

1038
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 1>only one out of every three has to go in

1039
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 1>because that's essentially matches one for two when it comes

1040
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>from two point buckets. But yeah, that's a great point.

1041
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And coincidentally enough, who did he play for? It's I'm

1042
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<v Speaker 1>really curious. I don't know if you remember this, but

1043
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a game where Patino yelled at Jamel Martinez,

1044
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>his post player, for not shooting a three. I don't

1045
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.360
<v Speaker 1>know if Pope will come down to that. I want

1046
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>to see Mark Polk get ticked off, though, you know,

1047
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 1>he's so upneat and positive. I wonder what it looks

1048
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like when his you know, when he looks like he's

1049
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 1>about to blow a stack. That's going to be interesting.

1050
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 4>It will definitely be Yeah, I'll just see him get

1051
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.639
<v Speaker 4>a little you know, on the sidelines, like you know,

1052
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.559
<v Speaker 4>in some faces. But I don't think you're going to

1053
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.360
<v Speaker 4>see him be a Patino type.

1054
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, uh, you know.

1055
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>And certainly they they never could get him cussed from

1056
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 4>the from the sounds of things, so Patino was always

1057
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 4>like he was saying some words that were similar kind

1058
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 4>of like Brock Vandergriff and they were like, just go

1059
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 4>ahead and say it.

1060
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Well apparently, and Cameron Mills saw me this. Uh. Mark's

1061
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 1>favorite expression was frick and and what what he said?

1062
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Patino said him, Ah, Mark, they know what you're saying.

1063
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Just go ahead and say it, dude. But you're right,

1064
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 1>you never would.

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00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah. Keith Farmer the guy I'm excited for, you know,

1066
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 4>for the season and everything, and he's so happy to

1067
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.719
<v Speaker 4>be back. And I think you're going to really enjoy

1068
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 4>watching these teams.

1069
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I agree. And and a guy who so appreciates

1070
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>being and not the CALIBERY didn't. Keith Farmer is a

1071
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>sports director eli x A G and you see him

1072
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>on BBN Tonight each night, following him on Twitter at

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00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Keith Farmer eighteen. Thanks came in, not a problem, can

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00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to you Up next to Emmigroom of the UK

1075
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>volleyball team. The Cats take on the Cardinals of Louisville

1076
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.280
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night at Historic Memorial Coliseum. You'll hear it right

1077
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.199
<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty WLAP. Here's Emma in three two

1078
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Joining us now

1079
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 1>in our celebrity hotline is somebody who's done more than

1080
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>one interview today but Emma Grome, senior setter for the

1081
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 1>volleyball Wildcats, that's what happens when you're playing for a

1082
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty good team. You got a big match this week.

1083
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 5>Right, Yes, for sure.

1084
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about when you go into

1085
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the Louisville match? Do you have to guard against getting

1086
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a little too keyed up? Because they have been putting

1087
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>some good teams on the court of late, and it's

1088
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 1>always interesting when you all play.

1089
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we always get super fired up for this week.

1090
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.559
<v Speaker 5>There's nothing better than a rival rivalry match, especially when

1091
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 5>you know both teams are doing pretty well at the moment,

1092
00:57:57.199 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 5>and they've been very good the last couple of years,

1093
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.760
<v Speaker 5>so we're ready to give it to them.

1094
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You all used to own them no disrespect, but I

1095
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 1>mean they just for a while there, they were just

1096
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, another team. But as you said, of late,

1097
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.639
<v Speaker 1>they've been doing really well. What do you make of that?

1098
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, teams get better. They've built a

1099
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 5>pretty solid program and you know, they weren't great for

1100
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 5>a couple of years, but they've really turned it around

1101
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.239
<v Speaker 5>and it's honestly impressive for them. But we're ready to,

1102
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, for it to be our turn so you know,

1103
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 5>almost the top ten matchup. We dropped just tolp of

1104
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.280
<v Speaker 5>the top ten this week, but they're at number four

1105
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.800
<v Speaker 5>and it's going to be a tough game for sure.

1106
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 4>What do you know about them, They're always a pretty

1107
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 4>scrappy team.

1108
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.239
<v Speaker 5>That's one thing that we can usually count on is

1109
00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 5>there's going to be long rallies and it's going to

1110
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.280
<v Speaker 5>come down to who can stick with that the longest

1111
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:54.800
<v Speaker 5>and eventually get the point because those are the big

1112
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 5>momentum changing kind of place. Yeah, very scrappy. They're usually

1113
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 5>pretty good on passing in defense, but our serving has

1114
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 5>been really good this year. That's something that I think

1115
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 5>is definitely a strength for this team. So hopefully we'll

1116
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:09.760
<v Speaker 5>be able to get them out of system a little

1117
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 5>bit and that'll make things a little bit easier for us.

1118
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the serving. Craig has talked about that how

1119
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>aggressive you all have been, and yeah, there are some

1120
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>service errors here and there, but explain to people the

1121
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.039
<v Speaker 1>difference because there were several years before you got here.

1122
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Craig kind of made the decision, Craig Scanner to really

1123
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:32.320
<v Speaker 1>have his teams amp up the serving aggression. Why that

1124
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 1>makes such a big difference.

1125
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:37.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that's something this year that's been a

1126
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 5>little bit different from us. In the past, it's been

1127
00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 5>that we wanted to have a low air rate but

1128
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 5>still get quality serves in the court. But this year

1129
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 5>it's been a little bit of a shift in mentality

1130
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 5>to we want to what we call knock out the

1131
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 5>other team, So you have them shank the ball or

1132
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 5>just get a flat out ace, and with that you

1133
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 5>have a little bit of a higher error rate, but

1134
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.440
<v Speaker 5>it's high risk, high reward, you know. So I think

1135
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.760
<v Speaker 5>that's been really big. But it's super important to serve

1136
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 5>tough to get the other team out of system. When

1137
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.440
<v Speaker 5>the other team is passing perfect passing balls right on

1138
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.079
<v Speaker 5>the net, it's a lot easier for them to run

1139
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 5>their offense, and it's really hard on our blockers to

1140
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 5>be able to make those kind of moves when it

1141
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.599
<v Speaker 5>could literally go to anyone. So getting them out of

1142
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 5>systems huge. It helps our blocking, it helps their defense,

1143
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 5>and it makes the other team a little less successful offensively.

1144
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.679
<v Speaker 1>And I know oftentimes you serve right at the other

1145
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:38.000
<v Speaker 1>team's best player or or most productive offensive player again

1146
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to try to get them out of system. Right, I

1147
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of teams you serve right at Brooklyn

1148
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:43.039
<v Speaker 1>this year, right.

1149
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:47.079
<v Speaker 5>Right, And I mean that's honestly smart. The idea there

1150
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 5>is that you want to try to take out the

1151
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 5>best hitter for that rotation, and sometimes people will, you know,

1152
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.199
<v Speaker 5>you want them to go to the ground or something

1153
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 5>like that, or just be a little bit out of

1154
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.960
<v Speaker 5>rhythm with their approach. So yeah, I'm not surprised that

1155
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 5>we've been seeing that, But that's also our goal against

1156
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 5>other teams is either do that or find the weakest

1157
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 5>passer if it's not the best hitter. You know, sometimes

1158
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.400
<v Speaker 5>you'll see Libero's struggle from time to time, or DS

1159
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 5>has struggled. So that's where Craig comes in, trying to

1160
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:21.840
<v Speaker 5>find the best area for us to serve.

1161
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you expect that from Louisville for them to go

1162
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>after Brooklyn, because obviously that impacts you as the setter.

1163
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Right, I Mean, I'm not sure what they'll do, but

1164
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 5>the past couple matches we've definitely seen that, so I

1165
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 5>could imagine that's not the possibility. But at the end

1166
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:44.280
<v Speaker 5>of the day, it doesn't affect things that much. Brooklyn's

1167
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.559
<v Speaker 5>been passing pretty well and she's very good at if

1168
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.960
<v Speaker 5>she does pass, still being able to get out of

1169
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.119
<v Speaker 5>the court and get in rhythm with her approach. So

1170
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 5>there's not too many times that she gets fully taken

1171
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 5>out of being an offensive option.

1172
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.119
<v Speaker 1>No, she's not gonna let that happen. Issue.

1173
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 5>No, she definitely won't let that.

1174
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Talking Tomcgralm, she is a senior center for the volleyball Wildcats.

1175
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 1>They take on the Louisville Cardinals tomorrow night. You can

1176
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:12.079
<v Speaker 1>see it on the SEC Network. You can hear it

1177
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 1>right here on six thirty WLAP. Coming off that invitational

1178
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>down in Dallash you sweep SMU, which is a good,

1179
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.320
<v Speaker 1>good program. You get the first step and then fall

1180
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to Purdue. What did you guys take away from the

1181
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:29.199
<v Speaker 1>trip to Dallas.

1182
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:33.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think we've just it's been a trend

1183
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.280
<v Speaker 5>this year. We just need to stay a little bit.

1184
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to stay more engaged, but just stay

1185
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 5>with the long matches. You know, we know against these

1186
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 5>top ten teams, it's never going to be easy, So

1187
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 5>focusing on getting one point at a time, not thinking

1188
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:53.159
<v Speaker 5>about the overall picture, and just trying to stay locked

1189
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 5>in on our game plan and what we do well

1190
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 5>as a team. We always say we want to play

1191
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky volleyball. We don't want the other team to dictate

1192
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.039
<v Speaker 5>what we're doing. So I think just staying a little

1193
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 5>bit more locked in on what's our game, not worrying

1194
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 5>too much about the other side, because yes, you do

1195
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.320
<v Speaker 5>have to worry about what they're doing, but at the

1196
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 5>end of the day, we know that if we're playing

1197
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 5>our best Kentucky volleyball, we believe that we can beat

1198
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:16.320
<v Speaker 5>any team.

1199
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, you have Penn State down to nothing, they got

1200
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>away from you. Was that kind of a loss of

1201
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:24.760
<v Speaker 1>focus there?

1202
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 5>I think that was a little bit of a tough situation.

1203
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Just we did.

1204
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 5>We have had a pretty tough schedule this year where

1205
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.480
<v Speaker 5>we had two weekends in a row of playing three

1206
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 5>games three days in a row, and I think that's

1207
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 5>something we weren't used to. But I think they're The

1208
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 5>thing is just not really losing focus, but just being

1209
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.599
<v Speaker 5>able to really go out in a third set and finish.

1210
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, we were up to oh and the third

1211
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 5>set was still a really good step for us. It

1212
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 5>was close, but just being able to go out there

1213
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 5>with a little bit more fire and finish a team

1214
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:02.800
<v Speaker 5>when we need to. That's something we've continued to work

1215
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:04.559
<v Speaker 5>on and it'll get better with time.

1216
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Well it has to obviously, because you got the SEC

1217
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.679
<v Speaker 1>coming up. But prior to that and as you know,

1218
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a trip to Stanford you mentioned a tough schedule, but

1219
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Craig has said, you know, I never shy away from

1220
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>tough matches, do you players? I got to think you

1221
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:22.320
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that or do you?

1222
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 5>For sure? Yeah, it's definitely important. I think to play

1223
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 5>teams like, play the best teams early on. They might

1224
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 5>not all go our way, but we learn a lot

1225
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.119
<v Speaker 5>from those matches and we learn what it takes from

1226
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 5>our team to beat the best teams in the country.

1227
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:40.960
<v Speaker 5>And like I said, you know, it doesn't always go

1228
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:44.239
<v Speaker 5>our way, but overall that'll help us when it gets

1229
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.159
<v Speaker 5>to postseason and SEC play because the SEC is getting

1230
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:50.000
<v Speaker 5>tougher every year. Oh yeah, so it's definitely important to

1231
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 5>play those kind of matches.

1232
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, not only has the SEC been getting tougher because

1233
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you all chased down as a program caught in blue

1234
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 1>past Florida, Tennessee is trying to make strides others. Then

1235
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you add Oklahoma and Texas. We all know what Dad

1236
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 1>means and just by dumb coincidence, you open your conference

1237
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 1>play on the road with a weekend at Auburn, then Florida,

1238
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you got Oklahoma coming in. So this is

1239
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the most challenging schedules I've ever seen.

1240
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 1>But you guys really just can't worry about that, can you.

1241
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 5>No, we can't. I mean, our goal every day is

1242
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 5>to just get a little bit better, fix what we

1243
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.119
<v Speaker 5>can learn from the matches before, and then go out

1244
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 5>and give every match our all. We have the mentality

1245
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 5>that we want to win every match, so we have

1246
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 5>to like go in thinking that that we're going to

1247
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:43.480
<v Speaker 5>play our hardest and play our best Kentucky volleyball to

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<v Speaker 5>try to beat these teams. But we love the tough schedule.

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<v Speaker 5>It's only going to make us better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And yeah, Emma girl my guess she is a

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<v Speaker 1>senior center for the volleyball Wildcast from Loveland, Ohio, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what north east of Cincinnati, right. Yeah, and you

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01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.440
<v Speaker 1>decided to become a Kentucky Wildcat. Where were you in

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01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 1>your high school career? Was it early on? And why

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<v Speaker 1>did you choose Kentucky?

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<v Speaker 5>It was early on. It was like right after my

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01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 5>freshman year ended it, you know, the second I step

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<v Speaker 5>foot on this campus, I fell in love with it,

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01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:24.039
<v Speaker 5>and I knew that I wanted to come here. The

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<v Speaker 5>people here are incredible. The program is super competitive, but

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<v Speaker 5>I always say this, we're really competitive, but it's crazy

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01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 5>how much they care about you as people. Like we're

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01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:38.880
<v Speaker 5>all competing. There's so much depth on these teams that

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01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.000
<v Speaker 5>everyone's fighting for a spot, but we're also super supportive

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<v Speaker 5>of each other. At the same time, you really want

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01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:47.159
<v Speaker 5>to see your teammates succeed, and I think that's really

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<v Speaker 5>special to be a part of something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're playing in. I keep hearing it called historic

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01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Memorial Coliseum, but boy, the insides of it now incredibly modernized.

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<v Speaker 1>My broadcast partner I did the ball State game on

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<v Speaker 1>sec TV and Leah Edmund worked with me, and she

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of surprised me, but she said, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of liked it when it was hot in ear because

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<v Speaker 1>it gave us an advantage. How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>the air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 5>It's definitely true. I think it gave us an advantage,

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<v Speaker 5>but I personally am very that we have air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you. You can still.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like fine, it was doable, but there was some

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<v Speaker 5>days in late September where man, if it was hot outside,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and oddly it's even hotter I think inside at

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<v Speaker 1>that point of the year. But you know, I really think,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously you all know way more about it than

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<v Speaker 1>I do, but I would think it allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>play your best. It doesn't drain you as quickly does

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<v Speaker 1>it when you're brutally hot?

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<v Speaker 5>For sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well you and Leah can do bait that. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>leave that up to you all. A few minutes safe

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<v Speaker 1>with Emmagrove, Kentucky's volleyball cetter. What do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the way? And speaking of Memorial Coliseum, the crowds have

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<v Speaker 1>supported you all because I think, slowly but surely people

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01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 1>are falling in love with volleyball here and lexing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, and it's incredible. I mean, we've had some

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<v Speaker 5>pretty good crowds here so far, and just being in

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<v Speaker 5>this new gym, being a part of this history being

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01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 5>made and having that many people come out and support

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<v Speaker 5>you as really special. I don't think people realize how

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<v Speaker 5>much of the crowd can play a part in these matches,

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<v Speaker 5>but it really adds to the home court advantage of

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01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 5>having this place packed and loud and people screaming, and

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01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.720
<v Speaker 5>it's honestly really nice as a player to look up

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01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 5>and see everybody here and supporting us. That makes you

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01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:50.560
<v Speaker 5>feel really loved as a program.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, we need to throw a

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<v Speaker 1>little love to some of your teammates, including what we've

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01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:59.159
<v Speaker 1>talked about. Brooklyn Molly Tuzzo has been playing well as

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01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a libro. She's kind of worked her way into the lineup, hasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>She She has. I mean, she was incredible last year,

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01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.359
<v Speaker 5>but this year she's taken it to a whole new level.

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<v Speaker 5>She applies everywhere on the court. You really don't have

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01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.720
<v Speaker 5>to worry about balls getting hitting the floor around her.

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<v Speaker 5>So she's been doing awesome. It's been really fun to

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01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:19.159
<v Speaker 5>watch her grow.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can still work Elean or Bevin in defensively,

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01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.920
<v Speaker 1>so that's a huge plus. And Brooke Baltima comes back

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<v Speaker 1>from the injury and what has she given you all?

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<v Speaker 5>She's been awesome. I mean, she's just one of the

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<v Speaker 5>hardest working players I've ever played with or met. She's

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01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 5>just very focused and she can be a little hard

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01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:42.479
<v Speaker 5>on herself sometimes, but you never have to worry about

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01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 5>her wanting to be better, but no, she's been awesome.

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01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.119
<v Speaker 5>We lost both of our middles from last year, so

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01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.960
<v Speaker 5>having her and Jordan Daily step up into that role

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01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.720
<v Speaker 5>has been really huge, and we've just been continuing to

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01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.159
<v Speaker 5>work on our connection and get the most we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it been weird dealing with a portal because you

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01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 1>got a teammate who's here literally here today and gone tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it can be tough, but I think that's the

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<v Speaker 5>cool thing is just learning how to adapt each year.

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<v Speaker 5>You never know how things will go, who you have

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01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.720
<v Speaker 5>or who you pick up, so just being able to

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01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.800
<v Speaker 5>adapt and grow with the team that you have each

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01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:20.880
<v Speaker 5>year is super important.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma Grom Kentucky Volleyball tomorrow night against those Louisville Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, best of luck, come.

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<v Speaker 5>Out to the game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>We need it passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok here bye bye. I didn't want to start rattling

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01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.079
<v Speaker 1>this off with her on the line. I didn't want to

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01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:38.560
<v Speaker 1>embarrass her. But she is a four time All American

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<v Speaker 1>Freshman of the Year in the SEC and a four

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01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 1>time All American and the setter, of course, is the

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01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:50.159
<v Speaker 1>quarterback out there on the court. So she is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best, if not the best setter in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you one volleyball match, it's all it's

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01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 1>going to take. If you go, you will be hooked,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now at the all new and improved Memorial Coliseum

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01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 1>seven pm start. I think I said it was on

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01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the SEC networks, actually on ESPN, so you can see

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01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 1>it and hear it here on six point thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. In the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, so much chatter right now about quarterbacks, and

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01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 1>part of that is former Wildcat Will Levis, who threw

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<v Speaker 1>away another game for the Titans, and that game cost

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<v Speaker 1>some headlines. In fact, his biggest turnover because the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Callahan Maddy with the sideline with the expletive, and

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01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.039
<v Speaker 1>it was apparently I didn't see it. I saw the

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01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 1>replay of it, pretty evident what he was saying to Levis,

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01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 1>what the bleep as he came off the field. And

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<v Speaker 1>people have asked Callahan since then if he regretted it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said no, He said he wasn't remorseful. He said,

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01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't regret my feelings about how I felt in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. I'm generally pretty composed, he said, but this

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01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 1>will just set me off. And I'm human like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I have blackout moments where I'll lose my mind. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. I don't blame him because remember now,

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<v Speaker 1>they fired Mike Vrabel, and one of the reports I'd

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01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:15.840
<v Speaker 1>read was that Vrabel was not fully committed to Will

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01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Levis as the starting quarterback, and the people who wrote

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01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:21.880
<v Speaker 1>his checks they were, and they were spending more than

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01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:25.640
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and twenty five million dollars to build around Levis.

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01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.000
<v Speaker 1>So they get rid of Rabel, who's a really good

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01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:33.079
<v Speaker 1>NFL hit football coach, and they bring in Callahan. So

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01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:37.439
<v Speaker 1>now Callahan is responsible for moving this team up in

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01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the fortune of the NFL, and his young quarterback keeps

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01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:45.600
<v Speaker 1>screwing things up with really really poor decisions that lead

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01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:50.439
<v Speaker 1>directly to points for the other team. So keep an

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01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:52.800
<v Speaker 1>eye on what's going on. I don't think Levis gets benched,

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01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:57.439
<v Speaker 1>but it is not good right now. What's going on

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01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:02.760
<v Speaker 1>down in Nashville speaking have benched fans and some media

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01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 1>believe that the Broncos already should bench Bone Nicks, the

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01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:11.359
<v Speaker 1>rookie from Oregon by way of Auburn. He won quote

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01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 1>unquote the starting job in preseason, but the Broncos have

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01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 1>started off zh to two they have not been impressive,

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01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:22.800
<v Speaker 1>nor has he four picks, no touchdown passes, did run

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01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.159
<v Speaker 1>for a rush score in Week one, but his rookie

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01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 1>quarterback rating through two games fifty one point three five.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is Sean Payton, the head coach who raised

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01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 1>eyebrows when he decided to start Knicks. Well, what are

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01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:41.720
<v Speaker 1>his alternatives? Zach Wilson, second player taken in the draft,

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01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>who is a complete bust in New York, or Jared

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01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Stidham who is an NFL veteran from Corbin, Kentucky by

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01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the way, but has never been able to start to

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01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 1>win a starting job, and other spots in the National

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01:13:55.439 --> 01:14:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Football League. So they may just be stuck with as

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01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the starting job as the starter in Denver. They've also

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01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>got a quarterback situation in Charlotte, of course, with Bryce

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01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Young being benched, and he may not be the future

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01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 1>for the Carolina Panthers of the quarterbacks, but at least

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01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 1>ten starts since the beginning of last season. When you

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01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:25.239
<v Speaker 1>look at all the analytical breakdowns points added per drop

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01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:29.640
<v Speaker 1>back success rate, explosive pass rate, you know, big plays,

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01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:34.199
<v Speaker 1>completion percentage, all that stuff. He is the worst or

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01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the second worst. So he has just been absolute bust.

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01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Now there's nothing much around him. But remember it was

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01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the decision came down to Bryce Young or c J. Stroud,

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01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and they clearly took the wrong guy. But Houston's done

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01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a much better job of building around CJ. Stroud in Miami.

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01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.960
<v Speaker 1>To A Tungue of Belova will not be placed on

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01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:06.039
<v Speaker 1>injured reserve despite yet another concussion. Mike McDonald's, the head coach,

1416
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:11.439
<v Speaker 1>said he needs more information, but he's still in concussion protocol.

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01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.199
<v Speaker 1>After that Thursday loss to Buffalo, McDonald said it's too

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01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.279
<v Speaker 1>early in the process. McDaniel said it's too early in

1419
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the process to say whether he'll be on injured reserve,

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01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:24.479
<v Speaker 1>but that he and the GM will make that decision

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01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:29.319
<v Speaker 1>once further evaluations have been completed. Now what they have

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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.520
<v Speaker 1>done is they have signed Tyler Huntley off the Ravens

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01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 1>practice squad. Huntley is in his i think sixth year

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01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Played his college football at Utah. So

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01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Skyler Thompson will be starting because to A will miss

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01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 1>this week's game against Seattle Skyler Thompson from Kansas State

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01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:00.119
<v Speaker 1>was a seventh round pick in twenty twenty two. It

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01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't mister irrelevant, but he was a late round pick

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01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and here he is starting in the NFL. One other

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<v Speaker 1>note about Jordan Chiles, the Olympic gymnast who had to

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01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.560
<v Speaker 1>give back her Olympic bronze medal. She is appealing the decision,

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01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and believe it or not, one of her teammates may

1433
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.800
<v Speaker 1>be the key to her winning that appeal. Simone Biles

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01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Netflix is shooting a documentary and has been shooting it

1435
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, and in court documents released yesterday, there's video

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01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 1>footage at the center of her appeals efforts, provided by

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01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the production company that had received permission to shoot at

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01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the Barcie Arena as part of Biles's latest documentary project.

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01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:47.640
<v Speaker 1>First of two episodes of the docuseries that were released

1440
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:50.520
<v Speaker 1>prior to the Olympics, two more coming later this year.

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01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.800
<v Speaker 1>It's called Simone Biles Rising, and the footage could be

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<v Speaker 1>the smoking gun they need for Childs to hold on

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01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to her medal because it undercut a key factual finding

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01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 1>in the Court of Appeals. The Court of Arbitration for

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<v Speaker 1>Sports ruling shows the American Gymnast appeal of her score.

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01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 1>The inquiry had been submitted well before the sixty second deadline.

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01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Her coach Cecil Landy was heard saying, inquiry for Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear that on the documentary footage forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>seconds after Child's score and the floor exercise final was announced.

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<v Speaker 1>She repeats it a couple of times prior to the

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<v Speaker 1>sixty second deadline. So we'll see if that shakes out.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that for being a teammate that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Thanks to my guest Emma Gromes. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Story and Keith Farmer. Back tomorrow night with a

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<v Speaker 1>short show ahead of Kentucky Volleyball. That's it. Good night

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<v Speaker 1>from the garage in Lexington. Ay, a ron? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is a ron?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now? No?

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<v Speaker 1>A ron?

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<v Speaker 4>Huh? Well you better be sick, dead or mute?

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<v Speaker 1>A A ron?

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<v Speaker 4>Er?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man? Why didn't you answer me the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, eh, huh, I'm just you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>asking you.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it like four times, So why didn't you

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<v Speaker 2>say it the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>I said a a ron?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's pronounced an eron.

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<v Speaker 5>You domb messed up?

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<v Speaker 1>A ron
