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<v Speaker 1>Sona cast time. We hadn't been here in a minute

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<v Speaker 1>to girl, soign on, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Geviz here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, the jokes around this twenty twenty four me

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<v Speaker 1>Too movement that's going on that was initiated by Diddy's

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<v Speaker 1>whole revelation of the owls and the abuse and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things of sex trafficking allegedly has created a platform

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<v Speaker 1>for there to be an insane amount of jokes bruh,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, you don't want to laugh at somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>pain or abuse or like, you know, scars that they've

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<v Speaker 1>suffered from these cats in the industry, But damn it,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the shit is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just far too many, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, because you see the domino effect, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like over the weekend we saw so many cats

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<v Speaker 2>start stepping down from their positions. We talk about high

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<v Speaker 2>power CEOs from Sony, the internetto Universe, all these different companies,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the videos start reservicing and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that interview clip, the one that's just seared

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<v Speaker 2>in my head is Neo the mother of at least

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<v Speaker 2>one or two of his kids. I remember a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months ago where they were on live and he

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<v Speaker 2>had her put out the house and all this other

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because she was really just telling the truth. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, tell him about the freak all Diddy Jr,

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy Junior. All he wanted to do, y'all is get

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<v Speaker 2>high and fuck these holes. He don't care about his kids.

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<v Speaker 1>She really did say that, did the background. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>is all live bru Diddyr.

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<v Speaker 2>But now what do we hear about freak offs baby oil.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta tell him no, got to tell him no.

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando Brown came out and was saying some stuff. Although

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<v Speaker 1>you know Orlando's credibility is kind of shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of crackheadish, so when he talks, people are

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<v Speaker 1>like But in this case, he was just like, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell him no. And Cat Williams said it too.

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<v Speaker 1>These two other accusers that are coming out on a

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<v Speaker 1>local rapper, I'm gonna spare a name until something gets real.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know. I mean we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, so I guess, sage what's up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Chris Brown was also named in this too. You

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<v Speaker 1>know people are gonna be like, okay, so one one

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all is a porn star and you were a

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<v Speaker 1>sex you were a prostitute. Like when you accepted that

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<v Speaker 1>invitation to go out and fly out, one of them

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<v Speaker 1>signed an NDA of sorts basically saying that whatever she

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<v Speaker 1>took part in was consensual. Right, So how far is

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<v Speaker 1>this really gonna even go? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, It's like I keep hearing so many different like

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<v Speaker 2>people who are in the industry and folks who are like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, experts, lawyers. I've seen a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>folks being like, I mean, you gotta think you got

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<v Speaker 2>all these high power names and this is a real

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, this is a real club of who's

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<v Speaker 2>who to get into this exclusivity. It's like, bro, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how many of these folks you think got dirt on

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<v Speaker 2>each other? Probably because they're like, look, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be in this club, man, you gotta do some things.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta know that you cool. How do I know

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<v Speaker 2>you cool? Man? You know what I mean? These three

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<v Speaker 2>people over here all got something they can say about

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<v Speaker 2>me that will probably send me to jail. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get down, we need to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to have some dirt on you. And it's like bruh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's really going on? And when you talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>rappers that we know here personally, there's absolutely some names

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<v Speaker 2>that's been linked, you know what I mean to that

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<v Speaker 2>man's camp as well that had the same type of allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, then you start coming up with birds

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<v Speaker 2>of a feather? You know, how long has this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>been going on with y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm you know, I'm like innocent until proven guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I don't you know, want to side with

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<v Speaker 1>my ladies because you know, even though I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>something like that directly happen, I do believe it can

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<v Speaker 1>happen if you put yourself in that situation, which is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where you know, some of their credibility will be questionable. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>but when a woman says no, like the one porn

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<v Speaker 1>star chick that came out, she was just like I said, whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa No, no, No, I don't care how worked up

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<v Speaker 1>you are. At that point, it turns into rate.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because once no is no, it's just no. So

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<v Speaker 1>and none of the people were talking about are that

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<v Speaker 1>desperate for any type of physical situation with anyone. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>they can have men and women if they want it,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they want it, So why why are these situations

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<v Speaker 1>like happening? Why are you why does this intrigue? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? I don't get it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then with online on Broot and Bloom, he was or Brown, sorry, sorry, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean your husband. It's Katy Pieriod.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh yeah, if a dude went to

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<v Speaker 1>a Diddy party, you were new booty and he was

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<v Speaker 1>about to try to get that, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>like what you know? And shoot, you know who's a

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<v Speaker 1>gatekeeper of all this stuff is probably Cassie because there

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<v Speaker 1>was another cat that came out and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this person's been to Diddy parties, this person, this person,

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<v Speaker 1>this person, everyone from politicians to all your favorite rappers

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<v Speaker 1>and singers, like he used to have gatherings all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, especially those white party turn ups, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what was going on? But everybody at the

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<v Speaker 1>party knew. But who's gonna talk though, right Ryan, Cassie's

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<v Speaker 1>already been ready to run her gums. She got paid out,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's still you know, talking, So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's gonna be an on an on

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<v Speaker 1>What am I trying to say? Like a flu yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's just gonna be insane. How many different

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<v Speaker 1>people probably come forward on social media in the weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I keep seeing more and more people also

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<v Speaker 2>doing deep dives into the memoirs of Kim Porter, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>RP God Rest of Soul. But how much do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that woman saw, you know, and even and then

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<v Speaker 2>the mentions that she had just from the excerts, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean stuff she probably saved just to maintain her own

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<v Speaker 2>safety and security while she was with that man. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you got to think the power that

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<v Speaker 2>comes along with that, you talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most influential folks, not only in music, but in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this gonna affect athletes too?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think, why why wouldn't it? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you absolutely see a lot of these cats over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh can't wait to hang out with Diddy?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, remember when that whole what they call was

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<v Speaker 1>a rape fest that happened with the Ravens on that boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep? I absolutely do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like recently, uh Ocho and freaking Shannon Sharp

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh yeah, we used to have orgies and

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<v Speaker 1>we go one to another and whatever, Like how much

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<v Speaker 1>of that was consensual and how much of it was

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody thinking they were going to a party with

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<v Speaker 1>their homegirl and then they get caught up in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where no doesn't matter because you're here now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a select liberty or I'm a high paid athlete

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<v Speaker 1>like you should be honored to take this d or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever like the movement was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I think that's a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the grooming, you know what I mean. It is like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't allow an environment where anybody can feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>to say no, and then if they do say no,

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<v Speaker 2>is it even gonna be honored and respected? You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And that's the problem. That's where the

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<v Speaker 2>issue lies is because yeah, man, you can you can

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<v Speaker 2>do everything under the sun if it's consensual with somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment that it's not consensual, that's where that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to stop, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't bro and folks that will sit there and talk

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff about this girl. Oh she's a sex

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<v Speaker 2>working blah blah blah, she did this and that listen,

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<v Speaker 2>she could have gotten on the plane. She could have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten this car, She could have gave that man fila.

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<v Speaker 2>She owned it, X, Y and Z as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>it was an inn and a O that came out

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<v Speaker 2>of her mouth. Guess what you gotta stop? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a power down. I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of folks tend to forget that comes along with this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to where folks are intimidated to even to

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<v Speaker 2>even tell a lot of these people, no, you feel me?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you? Alex Jones? Could you imagine standing in front

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<v Speaker 2>of Clive Davis. It's man that literally has all the money,

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<v Speaker 2>all the power to potentially change your life. And he says, hey, Lex,

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<v Speaker 2>I like you and I won't you what that boy do?

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<v Speaker 2>And he got two goons standing behind you looking at

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<v Speaker 2>you like so you're gonna get down and lay down?

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<v Speaker 2>You're laying down? Or no, oh I'm going down swinging, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people in high positions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been stepping down like that's cool?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, yeah, that's how you feel. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to get out ahead of it, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>The true thing is gonna keep you from sharing a

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<v Speaker 2>jail cell with R Kelly though that's a fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>carry it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you think about fame and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that's what lures obviously these women or

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<v Speaker 1>men into the company of predators like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like, oh, yeah, you want this, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you do. And I don't mean like sexual, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like you want this life, right, you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>around famous people and rich people, and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>party and say, oh yeah, I kicked it with Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Brown until you know, until you're pinned down in a

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<v Speaker 1>room somewhere drugged up, which you know, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>one of the girls was saying that she was under

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<v Speaker 1>the influence. She didn't say she was drug but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's like sheh like that lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>isn't for everybody. And I think the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>moral of this story is really going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't jump into stuff you ain't ready for because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a jungle in there. Like when you get into the

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<v Speaker 1>high rankings of industry, who knows what these people have seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And unless you're willing to do all that stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>not speak or just do what you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>to get in it, don't play with it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not normal cats. They're not They've done too much,

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen too much, they've had too much. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to try the next too much. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that power makes you sick in ahead. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're lawless, right, like you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to ever suffer any penalties or jail time or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>for a while until it does happen. Shoot, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>people like Trey Song slapping chicks in public and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, choking chicks out in front of everyone. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking? Do you think that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Above the law like what you think he does when

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<v Speaker 2>there's nobody around.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, exactly, that's the question. We had no idea that r.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly had a gang of women locked up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we did. I get it, not.

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<v Speaker 3>That you know, you know, unmentioned thing that he was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think people knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people just didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>His crew new, His crew new. I didn't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there were hints, there was science. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in the music, you know, like it was he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey Love still a great record.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, And then in public saying, oh, it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't get me. It's too late. What's too late?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, leave it alone. You ain't ready to

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<v Speaker 1>play with the big dogs. Leave it alone. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of secrets in Hollywood, man, And then these professional athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the things. Anybody with money, you never

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<v Speaker 1>know what they really be into.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, man, think you want that lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>until it gets real? Baby reindeer Dang, those of y'all

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<v Speaker 2>might not understand that reference.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch that on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch with care, proceed with caution, watch your back literally real.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, man, I say, hey, shine a light.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's continue to see how this ship go on

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<v Speaker 2>fold because there's a coms. I mean, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>some of your biggest stars right now that are probably

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<v Speaker 2>this Diddy try really gets popping. I mean, we already

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<v Speaker 2>know Bieber's been named Usher's been named you know Usher

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<v Speaker 2>clear this whole last Twitter history yesterday allegedly hacking got okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of probably some of your favorite people that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be involved in this somehow, some way, we just gotta

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<v Speaker 2>sit back and how you pop going ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna change how you see them?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know how like I mean R. Kelly made

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best music of our generation period, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't help but two step to some

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<v Speaker 1>of that cat. We feel a way when we do

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the extent of what the abuse that

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing right with the girls that he had involved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So depending on what happens in this like

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna ban everybody? Like so if we take

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<v Speaker 1>out Diddy, that's pretty much everything bad boy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's personal preference.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like if you can, like if you can

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<v Speaker 3>look at yourself and just be able to separate the

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean enjoy the music because the music is

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be timeless, it's gonna be classic, Like these

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<v Speaker 3>are still records that we love. It's just the person

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<v Speaker 3>who made that that record is just a despicable human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna be in there talking about take that.

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<v Speaker 2>Take that. I mean, let's still play r Kelly in

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<v Speaker 2>the club, absolutely in the club now absolutely to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was dancing stepping the name of Love on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to the mighty mind motion. Who's having a

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<v Speaker 3>good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean so again, Like you said, it is personal

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<v Speaker 2>preference comes down to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's real life, you know what I mean. Shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still a rap hell. Probably my middle school graduation.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I could Fly was down there, like the

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<v Speaker 2>class song, like it's supposed to be inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Usher is like on a second wind,

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<v Speaker 1>being like one of the biggest, most popular R and

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<v Speaker 1>B like touring, selling out shows. He might even be

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<v Speaker 1>prepping another album. Who know, I would at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>at this pinnacle, I would drop right now and then

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<v Speaker 1>to have this happen and be named in some bs

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<v Speaker 1>even if he didn't take part, he witnessed it and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything that's gonna mess up his whole ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It like, and then let's just see who else these

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<v Speaker 1>music executives and whoever else. You know. Diddy was like diddling,

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen? I don't know, but I'm ready for

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<v Speaker 1>these court proceedings. I wouldn't be shocked if like more

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of this next me too, because

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and say something about what happened to you,

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<v Speaker 1>so these people know what kind of monsters are in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. And again, it's all accusation until somebody's proven guilty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, keep that in mind, Like you know, shoots,

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<v Speaker 1>they just hear and we're not saying you did it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were. You're accused. Everybody saw it, he responded

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<v Speaker 1>to it, so it's like, you know, it's out there, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop shaming these women for trying to tell their story

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, until you know they're proven like Sanasa,

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<v Speaker 3>until they're proven wrong, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they say they're.

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<v Speaker 3>They believe they were abused until we find out what

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<v Speaker 2>We just got to believe their story. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>comment section is as bad as the depths of Hell

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<v Speaker 2>that much. People just be on there saying any type

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. And again, man, you know, regardless of how

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<v Speaker 2>you might feel about the artists. If if somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>unless it's just a ball faced lie, And you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have some type of regardless of how cold your heart is,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have some type of empathy and remorse

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<v Speaker 2>for the victims. Bro. You got to because no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how you look at it, that's somebody's son, that's somebody's daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they were taking advantage of in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that they you know, didn't approve of, have some compassion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be a piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's harder to come back from. Yeah, So we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. And if you have some kind of sexual

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<v Speaker 1>or domestic violence happening in your house, like you need

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<v Speaker 1>to say something to someone now, like don't be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of your abuser, because a lot of those words, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all they are to keep you down, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>you scared, keep you in a corner, keep you silent.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is help for you. Get out of that house,

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<v Speaker 1>out of that situation, Go to a family member you

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<v Speaker 1>because that shit can be generational.

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<v Speaker 2>And be better people out there today. Okay, all y'all

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<v Speaker 2>out there, you know, you know, freaky is fine, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't start just don't just start dominating people.

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<v Speaker 1>Be cool, yea.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless they want it, well, that's consent. So if they say, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>grab one out of the thousand baby old bottles over

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<v Speaker 2>there and loop me up, that's consent. The D R,

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<v Speaker 2>the D D L, the E the R spells dead ler. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just have to.

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<v Speaker 1>That one, all right, Daddy, Let's get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all be blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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