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Speaker 1: You am now listening to soft core history.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to soft core History. I'm your host for

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the week. Damn ri Chester joined as.

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Speaker 1: Always, but Rob Fox, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day to me as a dog dad as

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we record this drops a day later, But I just

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want to congratulate myself on being a father, right right,

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right right? Anything new with you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, same old, same old good. I have to rely

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on you today heavily. Okay, I need your lay miss

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oh perfect, because today we're talking about the French Revolution.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that happened during a different time, but I

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don't care.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't even know what lame is.

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Speaker 1: Is Lamis took place during a smaller revolution in the

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eighteen forties in France.

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Speaker 2: Cool. I am not going to defend myself for that. Yeah.

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I don't want to know what lay is is in detail,

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like I just want to know that it exists. Yeah,

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I don't need to actually know.

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Speaker 1: What it's about.

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Speaker 2: My name is bel Sean. I think it still stands

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the two four six so one.

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Speaker 1: I could do this all day. Good. I'm fucking Captain

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America today.

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Speaker 2: That's what we need to do this all day.

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Speaker 1: I love fun fact about lay is it's uh, it's

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Trey Parker's favorite musical. That makes sense though, Yeah, and

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so they're in the south Park movie there is. The

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south Park Movie is one of the best musical movies

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ever made. And one of the reasons is for me,

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as a guy who is like semi interested in musicals,

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like someone who actually loves musicals would think I'm stupid,

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and I am, but they like do all the songs

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are kind of like different types of musical songs, you

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know what I mean, It's not like one genre, and

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one of them is like lame is like a lay

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Mis theme song.

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest episodes of South Park ever, this

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is easily in my top five, is the Thanksgiving Helen

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Keller episode. Yeah, and they they hire like an actual

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like Broadway guy to do their Hell and Keller play

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like an actual director, and people who don't realize I

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don't know anying about musicals. It's still funny because he's dramatic.

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He's still very dramatic. But the guy is just doing

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lay Miz the whole like he never talks. He's just

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like I know of a turkey who can't do tricks.

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I've worked with her before, and he just that's the

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only way he talks the whole episode, and it's like,

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every time I watch it, I just like piss my

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fucking pants. It's so fucking funny. And the reason for

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all of that is is that Trey Parker.

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Speaker 2: Loves lay miss Yeah, and he also loves great expectations.

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He does, Yeah, I'm very familiar with Pip Yeah yeah,

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and you're very familiar with like the lame Miz references.

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So he bounces it out with the South Park universe

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for us too.

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 2: But now today we're gonna talk about French Revolution because it's,

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you know, currently trying to cash in on that SEO

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No Kings, No King protest, which look, so we're going

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back to the original on no Kings if it's.

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Speaker 1: If Like I am all a I'm fine with people protesting,

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even though I think any protest is annoying no matter

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what it is or what side of the islet's on

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and be there's certainly plenty of things to complain about

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that I'm not going to like judge people for. But

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the name of it high key pisses me off.

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Speaker 2: It's bad. Brandon no Ca, well mostly because.

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Speaker 1: I just see all them. I look at all of them,

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like it's all like on the left side, and I'm

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just like, no, Kings, I'm not convinced that you like

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democracy exactly like I know you don't like Donald Trump

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and and totally absolutely fair, but I am in no

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way convinced that what you seek to do is save

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a constitutional republic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very ironic, like at fucking all.

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Speaker 1: It's just I'm just like, just just say you hate them,

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like you don't need to do. If you're trying to

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win over people in the middle, You're not. I don't

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You're not. I'm not buying it now. I'm not, fun

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fucking second, am I buying it.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna kind of talk about what leads up

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to the French Revolution, and we're gonna kind of end.

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Speaker 1: It where heads are rolling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, once the heads are rolling, we're gonna cut

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Speaker 1: And what my favorite thing about that because it's.

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Speaker 2: So long, Oh, there's so many like details go into it,

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and there's so many Honestly, the French Revolution deserves like

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a three parter minimum.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if we were Dan Carlin, we'd do

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a ten part each episode three hours long.

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Speaker 2: So we're not talking about Napoleon today. We don't know.

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It's very disappointing for you.

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Speaker 1: I assume we get up to like robes Pierre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but we mentioned rose Pierre, but like, we're

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not gonna do the Reign of Terror. We're gonna get

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up to We're gonna get to the rain of Terear.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the French Revolution is one of my

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favorite revolutions because, uh, back to the no kings thing

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even is that that's really how revolutions go, you know

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what I mean, like the American Revolution and by the way,

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hype fucking city for the Ken Burns American Revolution doc

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coming out. That's gonna be faya.

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Speaker 2: And the American Revolution plays a part in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is that the American Revolution is

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a miracle and one of the greatest things that ever

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happened because of how it played out. Because normally what

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happens is French Revolution, Russian Revolution shit, which is a

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shit ton of innocent people die, and then someone gets

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in power and power struggle, nothing really changing, more civil wars,

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and then you just get another autocrat, whether it's in

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France's case a literal just king again, Napoleon yea or

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or in Russia's case, a king in all but name.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people reference Napoleon as like the Augustus

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of France.

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Speaker 1: Look, Napoleon was a great leader, but obviously like fuck

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him too, you know what I mean, Like he just

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wanted power the same way Gustus just wanted power with

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all the fuck those guys they ended the fuck fuck

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Caesar and fuck Augustus, and uh, Napoleon's fun and he

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was only fighting other dicks, so whatever.

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Speaker 2: And uh as kind of you know, elitist. We're gonna

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probably take the royals.

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Speaker 1: I'm already on the side of the royals. Fuck them up.

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Speaker 2: Some of you French he's maybe you just discovered this

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show because every time we do a French episode, we

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if they find us somehow, and they're like a typical

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American history here, you don't know what the conpredicts. You know,

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Nuance French history, there is no nuance. Now, you guys

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are fucking animals. And Louis was actually not that bad.

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Speaker 1: He probably wasn't. To be honest, I don't know a

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ton about him. I know he was not great economically.

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Speaker 2: No, but that also wasn't really his that's not all

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on him.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like he was convinced into bankrolling America.

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Speaker 2: There's bankroll in America, and it's like, if you're in

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French power, you have to go to war with England. Yeah,

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that's just a requirement.

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Speaker 1: They lose the World War and are in debt from

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that and then decide to bankroll America to get back

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at England basically, which fair enough. But my favorite factoi

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to the French Revolution, I don't know if you bring

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it up or not to, which is also just like

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mirrors modern day, so comically close that it's painful, was

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that when Marie Antoinette was on trial and they they

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just weren't getting anything to stick other than she was rich.

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They accused her of being a pedophile.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get to that. Yeah. Between seventeen

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fifteen and seventeen eighty nine, the French population grew from

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twenty one million to twenty eight million, which is twenty

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percent of that lived in cities and six hundred thousand

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were in Paris alone. The middle class triple in size

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by seventeen eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: Which by the way, means the country was doing well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh there's a middle class. Yeah, a buddy middle class,

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but living standards for peasant farmers and blue collar working

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men dropped.

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Speaker 1: The middle class will do that, were ladder polers. Yeah,

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you know what I mean, you just get one house

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in the suburbs and you start spitting on everyone.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like some immigrants these days. What the

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legal immigrants. There's zelots. They're like, fuck these illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had to do it the right way,

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a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire up the ass

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for like ten years to.

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Speaker 2: Like just to get your citizens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of bureaucracy and all that shit, and

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then like someone else comes in and they're like amnesty,

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we need the farm workers. I understand they're pov. I

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get it completely.

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Speaker 2: There was an incident back in the seventeen thirties with

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that group of apprentices who are fed cat food by

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their master, did a bit of a silent revolt to

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their master by meowan outside of his bedroom, keeping him

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and his wife up for several nights. Not realizing it

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was his own men. He believed the cats around his

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the cats, and hung them for witchcraft. The cats Okay,

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so that's just kind of like a sense of where

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Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed in this man, actually, because this

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is a Catholic nation, and in Catholic nations you burn witches.

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the stake is a little disappointing off the bat. Maybe

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he couldn't spare the fuel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, an economic recession hit in seventeen eighty five

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thanks to both the Seven Years War in American Revolution

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plus bad harvest from several free kale storms in seventeen

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eighty seven and seventeen eighty eight. Food prices and unemployment

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a great combo. No, I think this was man.

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Speaker 2: Like that, says The little Ice Age was a period

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of regional cool in in the North Atlantic region last

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and roughly from thirteen hundred to eighteen fifty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so they're already dealing with that.

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Speaker 2: An average Frenchman at the time would house two pounds

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of bread a day.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on a second. It lasted until eighteen fifty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did the Industrial revolution and coal burning save the planet from.

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Speaker 2: We talked We've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Remember we did an episode on Patreon about eighteen forty eight. Yeah,

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simply Yeah, a lot of it, all those revolutions that

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were happening, plus the Industrial Revolution, there was a lot

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of you know, global warming around that time. So yes,

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it saved the plant.

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Speaker 1: We saved the planet with the Industrial Revolution.

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Speaker 2: We always we always kind of backdoor our way.

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Speaker 1: We really knew.

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Speaker 2: Into the solution. So an average Frenchman would house two

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pounds of bread a day. The prices of flour obviously

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went up instead of only a baguette was half your

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monthly wages.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's not tenable long term. No two pounds

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of pre days. It's aggressive putting it.

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Speaker 2: Away, going full carb load.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, I guess if these are low

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Speaker 2: You'reurningat fuel. Yeah, you're on your feet all day, Like.

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Speaker 1: A steak in the morning ain't gonna help. Yeah, Well,

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when you're when you're doing the when recovery dog, you need.

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Speaker 2: To state protein in you, the state also experienced a

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debt crisis, though not nearly as bad as England. At

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the time, the tax rates and collection were wildly inconsistent

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throughout the different regions of France. King Louis the sixteenth

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in seventeen eighty nine, the three states being nobility, clergy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where the term left and right comes from.

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Speaker 2: But there's three options, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, but there's still still just the left, left and

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right comes from this assembly. I forget what it's called,

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the Assembly National Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Louis was actually willing to consider improving control of public

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finances to the commoners, but would often back down when

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the two other estates told him not to bitch out

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to the demands of radical reformers. So, you know, you

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had a bunch of like ritual leeds. You had the

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fucking church being like, yo, fuck those dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what we got them?

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Speaker 2: Who cares? Well?

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Speaker 1: Tell them a story and they'll shut.

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Speaker 2: The fuck up. Yeah about on the God.

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Speaker 1: It is funny that he would even I guess maybe

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it's a money situation at this point. But like in

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the Middle Ages and prior to that. You know, the

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nobles would be important because they're kind of like funding

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your wars and like fuel. Like they have armies, like, right,

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you collect all it's a Game of Thrones style, right,

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you call the banners, right, right, right, But not by

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this point the army's kind of nationalized, like there's no like, oh,

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we need Lord Saviagnon's you know, twenty regiments.

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Speaker 2: The biggest issue between these three, well mainly the commoners

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with nobility and the clergy, is they were the only

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ones paying taxes on land and wages.

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Speaker 1: Right, which is fuck since the nobility owns a fuck

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ton of land, a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think at this point that church rounds

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like ten percent of the country. Yeah, but does that

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even it's a big amount.

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Speaker 1: But any land they own that doesn't even belong to

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France nominally it's the Vatican. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The third estate would eventually break away and get

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together at a tennis court of all places outside Versailles

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and form their own nationale Assembly in June.

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Speaker 1: Them fucking up, those fucking dirt monkeys destroying a grass

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tennis court like that makes me want to vomit.

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Speaker 2: And that's how we got the French shop open with clay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they turned it into clay, because they are clay.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the educated French elite were all about the Age

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of Enlightenment, like whatever did uh? The American Revolution inspired

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French patriotism and propaganda against the king, often untrue, helped

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light the fires of revolution.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like to say mean things about the king.

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Wasn't one that he was like controlled by maybe by.

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Speaker 2: His wife or like Marie Antoinette.

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Speaker 1: Controlled by Marie Antoinette's like brother who was a big,

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big dick in Austria or something like that.

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Speaker 2: They made up a lot of stuff. One was that

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he was a cook. He was infertile at first. Oh yeah, yeah,

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because they had four kids eventually, but it took a while. Yeah,

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and he had this weird obsession with being a locksmith.

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Speaker 1: Yes, loved locks Actually, their inability to bang is quite

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amusingly portrayed in the movie Marie Antoinette. Okay, you know

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who plays.

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Speaker 2: And they were making a bunch of like locksmith jokes

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about not being able to like crack.

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Speaker 1: On lout, yeah, his wife. But that's accurate though. That's

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not even propaganda, that's just dgging him befo what he

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does do you know who plays Louis the sixteenth and

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Marine It's it's perfect casting.

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Speaker 2: I don't watch any of these movies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jason Swartzman, Okay, it's good casting. I like that movie.

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It was fine.

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Speaker 2: There was also a falsified story about Marie Antoinette stealing

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a diamond necklace from the Crown Jeweler. This ruined her

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reputation and the public's eye, and she was never able

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to recover from it. She was obviously all about lavish parties.

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She like to spend. Yeah, you know, maybe not the

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best public image.

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Speaker 1: She was a teenager.

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Speaker 2: People are struggling. I know she got that.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember when she became queen, but it was young,

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I mean as young as Louis, almost like and it

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actually doesn't help too that. I feel like the two

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kings before Louis were kind of like badasses fourteenth and fifteenth,

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like didn't fuck around, and then Louise like a little

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bit feckless, softer obviously, well, yeah, play.

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Speaker 2: He was too courteous to the commoners. He was trying

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to bend the knee, and he was just trying to

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play both sides too much.

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Speaker 1: Louis the fourteenth and fifteenth would fucking never no, you

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don't you just like those are guys you just don't cross,

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and then their soft little boy became king poor guy.

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Speaker 2: They would also hand out pamphlets with erotica about these

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strange sex lives of French nobility that's just awesome, and

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they would pass it around like duff duck confeet to

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make the court seem like total deviance.

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Speaker 1: Right, So essentially, see this is I love episodes like

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this because it's the French Revolution that because it's like

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a very it's a very shit, don't change episode.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So the Clintons are in the woods sacrificing a baby

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and then having an energy with like Bill Gates and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Warren Buffett, same same kind of thing, same fucking shit.

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Speaker 1: It's just so so funny that it's like, what do

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we say about them to make people don't like him? Oh?

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They they put stuff in other people's holes. Weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was the whole thing with Lafayette and why

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he came to America was a bunch of like the

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French royalty actually didn't trust him because he wouldn't cheat

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on his wife. Yeah, so he came over to America

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helped us with the revolution. Lafia's the man I can't imagine.

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And we're gonna talk about lafiyat later.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, he probably found solace in like Washington and Adams,

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who definitely just like stand up dude, didn't cheat on

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their wives. But he was also really close with Jefferson much.

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I just felt like he was back in France at

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that point, right at Monticello. Yeah, just like Jesus christ Man.

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Speaker 2: On July eleventh, Louis dismissed the finance minister Jacques Necker,

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who was starting to cozy up with the Third Estate

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and put the Royal Court on a budget. He's like, dude,

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we got to pump the brakes on the spending.

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Speaker 1: This is getting outrageous. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was like their version of j Pal.

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Speaker 1: We've got to raise rates. This is getting outrageous.

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Speaker 2: We cannot change the rates.

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Speaker 1: I can't drop them. He's the only person I trust

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in government right now. I'm just like, please, God, let J.

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Paul stay in.

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Speaker 2: This was seen as the King's direct opposition to reform

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and was the catalyst.

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Speaker 1: To j fourteen, the storming of Versailles, not Versailles, oh Bestiel, Yeah, yeah,

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oh Van j fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got their own, jay, we should uh obviously.

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July fourteenth was when a revolutionary mob of about nine

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hundred attempted to storm and seize control of the medieval armory, fortress,

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and political prison known as the Bastille.

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Speaker 1: If we still had any interest in selling merch a

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j fourteen sure would be great.

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Speaker 2: I survived j fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's just so hard to make profit on

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any merch when we're our size.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a bitch. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: After four hours of fighting and ninety four deaths, the

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mob was able to break into the Bastille after tearing

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down parts by hand.

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Speaker 1: Look at them.

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Speaker 2: They ritted apart with their hands, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Killing a tenth of the crowd. And still and they're

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still going.

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Speaker 2: Is I don't think all ninety four deaths were on

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their side? Oh okay, okay, not certainly not.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They killed the surrendering governor and his garrison.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it sounds right.

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Speaker 2: The governor's head was then put on a pike and

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prayed it around the city.

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Speaker 1: Not great.

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Speaker 2: They do a lot of not great things. Yeah, that's

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really just the star mob mentality is not the.

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Speaker 1: Best It's never good. Ever. It never like if you

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see a mob, get out of it, what are you

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doing in there? Yeah, that's the worst part. I actually

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the people I hate the most, anyone mostly peaceful. Yeah,

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like anyone who was in a mob, whether it was

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some fucking twenty twenty thing or Jay six or something

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like that, and like their excuse is just like, well,

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I was just there and I wanted to see what

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was get swept away, Get the fuck out of there.

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What the fuck did you think was gonna happen? Dude,

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I was just watching. I wanted to see, you know what.

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And then you're mad you got tier You're among other

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people that were doing shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody has their phones out. You're just living

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in the moment.

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Speaker 1: You are just you are living in the moment might

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be your last moment.

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Speaker 2: Louis appointed our Boy uh Lafayette command under of the

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National Guard and Jean Sylvian Bailey as head of the

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new administrative structure known as the Commune. There was a

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brief moment a few days of civil peace, but that

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quickly deteriorated on July twenty second, when the National Assembly

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mob got their hands on former Finance Minister Joseph Fallon.

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If I don't know how to say the last name,

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I just kind of put like a French stink to it.

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Speaker 1: I've told you before, the key is on any French name,

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is you just, especially if there's no e on the end,

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you just don't pronounce the last half of it. Fellow,

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That's it.

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Speaker 2: They made this man walk the streets like he was

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Jesus Christ, barefoot with a sack of hay on his

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back instead of across oh, while forcing him to drink

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peppered vinegar.

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Speaker 1: Oh, such a spicy wing sauce.

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Speaker 2: Yep, so it would make him sweat, and in order

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to remove the sweatbeats from his face, they used a

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stinging needle plan like oh buddy, are you sweaty, before

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attempting to lynch him to a light post three different times.

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Each time the rope broke, and ultimately they just beheaded him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was gonna say, oh they let him

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go or he got away.

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Speaker 2: No. They then paraded his head on a pike and

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stuffed his mouth with shit.

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Speaker 1: People aren't very creative in a mob. And also, by

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the way, this isn't a clean guillotine beheading. This is

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a dirty isis beheading?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, was just like get the butcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a that you're chopping sawing.

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Speaker 2: It's not you.

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Speaker 1: The guillotine's your best. If you know you're gonna be beheaded,

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ask for guillotine.

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Speaker 2: Better sharpen that bitch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That was actually a problem with like so people

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who knew they were fucked, they wanted to be first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't want a dull blade.

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Speaker 1: And that was the problem. The blade would dull as

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it cut off more heads.

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Speaker 2: And boy, howdie that rain a tear. It was just

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a line, Yeah, truly.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was like Disney World on the

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fourth of July. It's the worst ride ever. Yeah, you

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you do want to fast pass at the guillotine. If

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you don't have a choice, get the fast pass.

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Speaker 2: They then confronted his son in law, who was intended

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of Paris with the head before lynching him too, Like

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here's your father in law's head full of shit.

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Speaker 1: I hope they did it creatively, like he was in

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his study, like riding the you know, a document, like

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filling out the the spreadsheet for the day, and like

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his father in law's head just like peeks up on

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a pike, you know what I mean, And he's just

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like Papa. And then like he they like moved the

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pike so it looks like he's talking and shit, it

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starts falling out of his mouth, Like I mean, have fun.

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If you're gonna be a mob, have fun.

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Speaker 2: This led to a total break and containment of law

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and order known as the Great Fear, and led to

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a bunch of aristocrats fleeing the country and getting out

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of dodge. Also, a lot of like farmers started to

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like form their own militia and rural areas, fearing that

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people were just gonna come for their fucking farms.

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00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah that's smart. See this is why. Look again, totally

474
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,839
right to protest your government, Totally right to get angry

475
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:22,519
at your government. But at the same time, I do

476
00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:26,440
appreciate things like the eighteen sixty two draft riot in

477
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:32,839
New York where they were just like sending the troops, like, yeah,

478
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,519
they're just killing people the like Marines in LA is

479
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,440
too soon, Probably not necessary, but like it does, there

480
00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:49,039
is a point where it's just like especially like the.

481
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: HW did it during the LA riots. Yeah, after Rodney King.

482
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,599
Speaker 1: Those get those were crazier than anything we've seen anything

483
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,400
we've seen, I'd say twenty first century riots don't even compare.

484
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,759
Like when we talk about these type of riots, like

485
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,799
you know, like a bad like Black Lives Matter riot,

486
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,720
it's like, oh my god, two people were killed, and

487
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,160
it was like one of them is always like someone

488
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,119
who is just like, oh sweet, I can murder this

489
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,920
other guy under the cover of like it's not even riot.

490
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: Related, and they always end up somehow being a pedophile.

491
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like there was actually it was it was

492
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000
after in Saint Louis when the Mike Brown stuff happened,

493
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:27,640
like twenty sixteen, there was a couple like one or

494
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,680
two deaths. It wasn't a lot, and one of them

495
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:32,000
was literally just like some guy just like murdered a

496
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,759
rival because it was like the perfect time to do it. Yeah, dude,

497
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,359
get your gang rival right right, right right, And it

498
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,119
was just like too crazy and he was never gonna

499
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,400
get solved, whereas like these type this type of shit,

500
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:46,839
I mean, they're just stacking bodies. And same with the

501
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,839
eighteen sixty two Draft riot, like they were just killing

502
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:50,920
black people on the street for being like I don't

503
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,599
want to fight for you.

504
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:56,599
Speaker 2: In late September, seventeen eighty nine, the Flanders Regiment arrived

505
00:24:56,599 --> 00:25:01,240
at Versi to reinforce the Royal Bodyguard, and we're welcomed

506
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:04,559
with a formal banquet, as it was common practice.

507
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,799
Speaker 1: It's a good look for Louis. Oh yeah, because he

508
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:09,599
needs to be like, hey, guy, takes care of his book.

509
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,960
Fuck the they already want to kill you.

510
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,599
Speaker 2: They're insane.

511
00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,759
Speaker 1: Who cares what they think at that point. Just make

512
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:16,880
sure the soldiers like you.

513
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: The radical press described it as a gluttonous orgy, while

514
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,559
the Assembly viewed their arrival as an attempt to intimidate them.

515
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: On October, god forbid the king have security, I know.

516
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: On October fifth, seven thousand protesters with the National Assembly

517
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,039
marched on Versailles. They were followed by fifteen thousand members

518
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,039
of the National Guard, who kind of seemed to be

519
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,279
turning towards the commoner's cause, and Lafayette was more or

520
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,000
less a prisoner to his own army.

521
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the soldiers are normal people. It's like,

522
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,960
you know, you have your musket and then they're just

523
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,759
like your fucking sister with a pitchfork on the other

524
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:58,039
side of the Yeah, what are you gonna do?

525
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Granted, a lot of people always default to the army

526
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,759
would never, you know, fire upon its own citizens. Yeah,

527
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:05,119
that's never the case. They always do.

528
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: They always follow order mostly. I mean look at in

529
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,480
later in the French Revolution when we're getting to it,

530
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:13,119
Napoleon with a grape shot.

531
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: Other's that. But we'll get to Lafayette, Okay, yeah, yeah.

532
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: But no, I mean that's the most famous one. Give

533
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,119
them with a grape shot. It was just people. It

534
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,880
wasn't another army, it was rioters.

535
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,799
Speaker 2: Lafier was able to relocate Louis and his family family

536
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,920
back to Paris after protesters ransacked the palace and killed

537
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,400
a few guards. Back in Paris, Louis and the fam

538
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440
were eventually essentially under house arrest, yeah, for like a

539
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:41,079
year by the commoners kind of.

540
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,599
Speaker 1: So it was just like he couldn't leave for his

541
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,359
own safety.

542
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,799
Speaker 2: Both okay, like he was still in power technically, but

543
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,279
he wasn't calling the shots.

544
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:52,319
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like it.

545
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: The army patrolled the streets to keep law and order,

546
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,200
and there was a weird transitional period of like a

547
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,359
committee consistent of wildly different view is with people like

548
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Jeanne Sea Free Morey, who opposed the revolution, altogether. Yet

549
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:09,799
radicals like Robespierre, who was on this board and was

550
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,519
just like yo, fuck them, fuck everything, fuck the system,

551
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:15,920
thought of himself as like almost god. Yeah, there's a

552
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960
point where rose Pierre, and we're not going to get

553
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,519
to this in this episode, but we'll just kind of

554
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,759
mention it. He gets rid of the Catholic church and

555
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:25,519
puts himself as like the head of his religion.

556
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Never a good sign.

557
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,599
Speaker 2: No, thankfully he meets you know, the proper ending.

558
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Oh. No, one deserved that their end more than Robespierre, absolutely,

559
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,960
no one what it. The only reason he's not one

560
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,319
of history's bigger villains is because he gets taken out

561
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:44,680
in time.

562
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: He gets exactly what he deserves, right, Yeah, And then

563
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,599
you have moderates like Lafayette all governing the country in

564
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,319
this incredibly tense group. I don't know how they get

565
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240
anything done. They don't really do anything at that point.

566
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: No, it's like a very ineffective. Have you ever watched

567
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,640
there's like clips of like kind of like far left

568
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,519
political meetings. It probably happens at far right stuff now too,

569
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,400
but in a different way. But at like far left

570
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,599
political meetings or consuls or whatever, they'll start. I mean

571
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,319
like the first twenty minutes or like land acknowledgments and

572
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,559
shit like that, and then it's like and then like

573
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:20,519
there's I saw this one clip where this chick was like,

574
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,519
excuse me, there's a lot of extraneous chatter here and

575
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,920
as like an eighty HD autistic person and they probably

576
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,319
had like twenty other identifiers. I just needed to stop, Okay,

577
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,519
And I'm not white, and I feel like it's disrespectful,

578
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,240
Like it's just that level of craziness that the French

579
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:37,240
Revolution invented.

580
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,559
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, you can thank the Shitah. This was all

581
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,039
until June seventeen ninety one, when Louis's brother convinced him

582
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,880
that he had ten thousand troops at his disposal in

583
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,720
northeast France, ready to take back power. Just gotta make

584
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,160
it there.

585
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:55,839
Speaker 1: Just gotta get a swim.

586
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the royal family left the palace in disguise

587
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:03,359
on the night of June twentieth, seventeen ninety one. Late

588
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,480
the next day, Louis is recognized, arrested and taking back

589
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,400
to Paris. The Assembly now demanded oh so loyalty to

590
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,839
the regime and began preparing for war. Radicals led by

591
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,359
Jacques Pierre Bressat prepared a petition demanded in his deposition,

592
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,720
and on July seventeenth, an immense crowd gathered in the

593
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,839
Champ de Mars to sign it, led by Lafayette. The

594
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
National Guard was ordered to preserve public order and responded

595
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,160
to a barrage of stones by firing into the crowd,

596
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:40,160
killing dozens of people. So they have their own Boston massacre.

597
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: You kind of kill someone with a well justified please shooting.

598
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: But I think this is a justified please.

599
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,799
Speaker 1: If people start throwing rocks at you, it's fairly justified,

600
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,559
especially in that day and age. I guess it's one

601
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,160
thing if you're like if it's like a modern riot police,

602
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,720
that's basically like a Roman tesseudo, you know what I mean.

603
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,759
Like they have the shield and they can just kind

604
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,880
of sturdy up.

605
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

606
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,279
Speaker 1: But like if you're just a guy in a wool

607
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:11,240
coat wearing a hat and people are throwing big ass

608
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,799
rocks at you, like at some point you're in danger. Yeah,

609
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:17,599
you are literally in danger. Yeah, especially if you're out numbered,

610
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:18,599
which I'm sure they were.

611
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,559
Speaker 2: The massacre badly damaged Lafaette's reputation. The authorities responded by

612
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,359
closing radical clubs and newspapers while their leaders went to

613
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,200
exile or hiding. So this in France kind of ruins

614
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:37,000
Lafayette's whole thing. Like he was a very well respected soldier.

615
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,559
Speaker 1: He was like the hero. Yeah, especially because at that

616
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,759
point they were a bit probably down bad for heroes

617
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,759
since they lost their last major war, so that generation

618
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,759
they didn't Maybe they did not. I just don't know,

619
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,720
but it doesn't feel like they had a lot of

620
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,640
heroes or any heroes from like the Seven Years of

621
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,119
War slash the French and Indian War. So they're only successful,

622
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,920
you know, military officer or their biggest most famous as

623
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,519
the military officer of the last forty years at this

624
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,920
point is Lafayette.

625
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: On August twenty seventh, Emperor Leopold and King Frederick William

626
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,720
the Second of Prussia issued the Declaration of Pilnits, declaring

627
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,880
their support for Louis and Hinton at an invasion of

628
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,119
France on his behalf.

629
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no one else in Europe was hyped on

630
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,480
this at all. In fact, all in fact, all of

631
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,200
Europe was anti this. Oh they fucking hated it. Like

632
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440
I don't I would love to actually do an episode

633
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440
on what they thought of the American Revolution. But at

634
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,079
the end of the day, that's still on the other

635
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:38,759
side of the world.

636
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they're still an ocean. He has to cross right, right.

637
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,319
Speaker 1: Right, and it's like, oh, well, they're colonists.

638
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Frances like dead center.

639
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Dead center and the strongest one of the if not

640
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,759
the strongest, most central monarchy of Europe.

641
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: For a long time. Yeah.

642
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,039
Speaker 1: In fact, all these other European nations, including England and

643
00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:01,039
stuff like that, they have like different family lines that

644
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,759
take over over time. The French line was the longest line,

645
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,519
but I mean stretched way back into the I mean

646
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,960
it goes back before even like Saint Louis. Saint Louis

647
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,440
is one of the Louis. It goes back a long time.

648
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,119
It was a completely unbroken and yeah, they were probably

649
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,240
just like, dude, fuck fuck this.

650
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: In reality, the midim between Leopold and Frederick was primarily

651
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,039
to discuss uh, dividing up Poland, but the threat rallied

652
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,160
popular support behind the regime.

653
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,359
Speaker 1: Port Poland catching strays. Yeah.

654
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: Also, what's not talked about the Polish Revolution. We might

655
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,319
have to do an episode on that.

656
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,319
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. Yeah, I don't know

657
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:39,200
anything about it.

658
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,039
Speaker 2: I think it kind of makes the French Revolution look

659
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,039
like child's play.

660
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Dude. Anything in Eastern Europe, Russia, Poland the Balkans. I

661
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,039
know that's in Europe, but it's a different Europe, like

662
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,440
western Northern Europe is different than Eastern Europe.

663
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Based on a motion proposed by Robespierre, existing deputies were

664
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,000
barred from elections held in September for the French Legislative Assembly.

665
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,640
Although Robespierre was one of those excluded, his support in

666
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,000
the clubs gave him a political power base not available

667
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
to Lafayette and Bailey, who resigned, respectively as head of

668
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,559
the National Guard and Paris Commune. The new laws were

669
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,400
gathered together in the seventeen ninety one Constitution and submitted

670
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,960
to Louis, who pledged to defend it from enemies at

671
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,640
home and abroad. So he's just like sign it, No, no,

672
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
sign it? Yeah, better sign it.

673
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: Do you think what's the just be egregious moving quoting here?

674
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:44,200
Do you feel like you're in control? It's just Bane

675
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,160
touching that guy's neck.

676
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:53,039
Speaker 2: Or Robespierre had his own auto pen? Yeah, Louis, the

677
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720
sixteenth that's not Roman numerals you get the point.

678
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Who's gonna ask any questions.

679
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 2: In December seventeen ninety one, Louis made a speech in

680
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
the Assembly given foreign powers a month to disband or

681
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:11,760
face war, an act greeted with enthusiasm by supporters but

682
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960
suspicion from opponents. So like, I don't think he really

683
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:15,400
means it.

684
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,079
Speaker 1: His heart's not in it.

685
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: It's essentially like, hey, I know you guys are probably

686
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,280
gonna save my ass, but please leave.

687
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just the wife when the police come, it's fine,

688
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,519
he's fine. Yeah, No, it's just we were just yelling.

689
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: It's Fineis Louis is the woman in the domestic abuse?

690
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it's of God. You could leave.

691
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Please leave.

692
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna get so much worse if you don't leave, Like, ma'am,

693
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,280
we can take you somewhere right now.

694
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna help you. Good, We're here to help you.

695
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: You mean children here? Get No, it's fine, it's fine.

696
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,159
He won't do it again. Who's at the door.

697
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: On April twentieth, seventeen ninety two, France declared war against

698
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,039
the King of Bohemia and Hungary. The initial battles were

699
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:04,639
disaster for the front charmy partially disorganized by mutinies, emigration

700
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,119
of officers, and political change.

701
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they had to vote on every time.

702
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,920
They were like, hey, we're gonna flank like it's a battle.

703
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,960
Now we got to vote. We're in. They're shooting at us. Yeah,

704
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,800
we're going to vote on whether we shoot back or not.

705
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Like we're gonna start with a land acknowledgment. This is.

706
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:27,199
Speaker 2: Prussia then joined Austria in an active alliance against France,

707
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,400
eventually declaring war on France on June thirteenth, seventeen what

708
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,800
seventeen ninety two. The blan for these opening setbacks was

709
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,280
put upon the king and asministers. Of course, it will

710
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:38,920
always blame that.

711
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh their fault. We lost.

712
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: The morning of August tenth, the combined force of the

713
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,760
Paris National Guard and you know, different regional forces attacked

714
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,239
the Toilet Repalis.

715
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think this happened in the

716
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840
Russian Revolution too, because they The reason the Soviet Union

717
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,119
is as large as it is is because they once

718
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,840
they got solidified, they started invading other countries. And the

719
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000
reason they did better than the French is because the

720
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,199
French were fighting proper countries and the Russians were fighting

721
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,079
like busted ass Eastern European countries essentially, and it didn't

722
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:17,760
go I mean they won, I guess, but like it

723
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,239
was a bloodbath, obvious, classic Russian war and they just

724
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,800
won because they had the numbers.

725
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:24,079
Speaker 2: But like this.

726
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: Happens every time there's a revolution like this, war breaks

727
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000
out and you can guess who dies, and it's not

728
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:33,039
the people who were like, oh, I love the people.

729
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,159
Speaker 2: Many of the Swiss gars protecting it were mrked. Louisa's

730
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,679
family took refuge with the Assembly and they eventually just

731
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,360
removed him, suspending the monarchy.

732
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,519
Speaker 1: Bound to happen. You can't do it all in one

733
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:50,599
fell swoop. You got to like normalize it, create the

734
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,679
permission structure, move down the road. Moved down the road,

735
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:54,320
and then you can find them.

736
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: I was confused by this because this seemed like such

737
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,360
a slow build and slow role. It's like to just

738
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,039
get rid of him, like he's just been a political

739
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:03,400
prisoner for like a year and a half.

740
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,199
Speaker 1: If you do it too fast, not enough people will

741
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,000
be on your side.

742
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: If you do it that swiftly, though, it's just like

743
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,719
it's over, like it's it's it's on. Yeah, I don't

744
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,199
know what they were trying to build to, is what

745
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,639
I'm saying.

746
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,159
Speaker 1: They didn't know what they were trying to build too.

747
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: They should have just got rid of them immediately.

748
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,199
Speaker 1: They This is the thing with the fratulition. Notice any

749
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,000
idea what they're doing. No, it is any idea. They're angry,

750
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,000
and they get the angry part right, They nail it.

751
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:31,199
They nail the angry. They have no plans afterwards, which

752
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:34,960
is why someone as competent as Napoleon is able to

753
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,079
come in and like the first competent human being in

754
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:39,880
like ten years.

755
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: As long as somebody had a plan, yeah, yeah, shows

756
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:43,559
up and figures it out.

757
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,079
Speaker 1: Plus everybody likes a winner.

758
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: The Princess di Lambelle, a close friend of Marie Antoinette,

759
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,280
was brought before a revolutionary tribunal on September third, seventeen

760
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,239
ninety two. When pressed to swear loyalty to the revolution,

761
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:03,199
she refused, and the assembly washed their hands of her

762
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,760
by throwing her into the streets, where a mob literally

763
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,960
ripped her to pieces.

764
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: Perfect This is, of course, by the way, like one

765
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,199
of the things that the French Revolution was, like more

766
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,480
equality for women, like treat women better.

767
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: But since she was riding for a friend, yeah, it's like, nah.

768
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,639
Speaker 1: They just pulled her rib to pieces. I assume sexually

769
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:25,719
violated as well, if I had to guess.

770
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they had time just fucking.

771
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, which, by the way, one of the things

772
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,920
that we talked about this in a previous episode. I

773
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,079
think it was just like horrible executions or something like that.

774
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,800
One of the things that started to sour people on

775
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,800
the French monarchy. And I think this was under Louis

776
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,159
the fifteenth was there was like a revolutionary assassin and

777
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,679
he was pulled apart, like in front of an audience,

778
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,920
like that was his official execution. I think he was

779
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,559
drawn and quartered basically, and people it was like so

780
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,559
horrifying that people were like, the monarchy's bad. But then

781
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:06,480
they just yeah, do that.

782
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: They just did it.

783
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, if you do it, it's okay. Yeah. Again,

784
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,599
no kings or no kings unless it's a king, you like.

785
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: They then carried her head on a pike to the

786
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,199
queen's prison cell, where they tried to force the queen

787
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,239
to kiss the severed head of her dear friends.

788
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh, they're a fun group. Again. I guess if you're

789
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,840
gonna go full psycho, lean into it. And they did.

790
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: January seventeenth, seventeen ninety three, Louis was convicted of high

791
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,559
treason by unanimous vote for what who knows right.

792
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:47,599
Speaker 1: Existing.

793
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. The people that voted or that would have voted

794
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,400
against it, just you know, they didn't vote at all. Yeah,

795
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,760
they abstained present. They're like, uh we abstain. Yeah, I

796
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,519
don't want to be on the record saying voted in

797
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:01,719
his favor for.

798
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,159
Speaker 1: The best to not say anything at that point, you

799
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,679
just kind of got to look out for yourself.

800
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 2: And he was sentenced to death by guillotine by the

801
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:15,360
man Samson, who formerly worked as an executioner under his rule.

802
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: He's just working a job. Yeah, it's just a job, man,

803
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,880
it is. Yeah. You only know one thing, Like, I mean,

804
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,199
the guy who chopped off Charles what's his name's had

805
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920
in England and in the English Civil War, he was

806
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,239
probably an executioner under Charles. It's just a job.

807
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,679
Speaker 2: It's like nothing personal.

808
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just buddy, I'm just working.

809
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,599
Speaker 2: Just clocking in.

810
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

811
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Four days later, on January twenty first, the former king's

812
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,880
hands were bound by his own handkerchief. The executioner's men

813
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:57,119
then cut his hair and opened his shirt collar. They

814
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,920
then started playing the drums. He had like some drum rolls.

815
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:05,079
As he walked up the steps, Yeah classic, Louis signaled

816
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,840
to the drummers to stop and proclaimed his innocence to

817
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,599
the crowd and expressed his concern for the future of France.

818
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,239
He would have continued, but the drums continued to just

819
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,199
drown out anything he was saying. I can to hear

820
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:19,840
anything he was saying.

821
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,079
Speaker 1: Right, guys, this is gonna go bad. Yeah, it's gonna

822
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:25,599
go bad. It's gonna go bad.

823
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,079
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know. At ten twenty

824
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:33,800
two am, the device was activated and the blade swiftly

825
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,360
decapitated him. One of Samson's assistants grabbed the severed head

826
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,320
out of the basket, onto which it fell and exhibited

827
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,719
to a cheering crowd. Spectators shouted long Live the Nation,

828
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,679
Long Live the Republic, Long Live Liberty, and gun salutes

829
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,440
were fired while the crowd danced.

830
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fast forward to like eight years later. They were

831
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,559
an emperor.

832
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: People dipped their handkerchiefs in his blood and sold locks

833
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,280
of his hair as souvenirs.

834
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to get one of those.

835
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we can get our hands on that, Yeah,

836
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
I'll be set and get Louis the sixteenth, just a

837
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,880
piece of him, Yeah, I need it. Next, they decided

838
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,159
what to do with his son, Louis Charles, who was

839
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,800
only eight years at the time. They handed the kid

840
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,679
over to a poor cobbler named Antone Simone.

841
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Okay, better than better than what they could have done.

842
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,079
I really just wait, okay, great, yeah, I mean I

843
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:33,440
put nothing past these people.

844
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: At the trial of Marie Antoinette, the boy was made

845
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,440
to testify that the queen had sexually assaulted him as

846
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480
a child. Yep, which was you know.

847
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,519
Speaker 1: Just straight up falls completely untrue.

848
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Marie Antoinette would meet the same fate at

849
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,159
the same location as her husband nine months later.

850
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:54,199
Speaker 1: But let's just walk this back for a second. Let's

851
00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:01,719
just take a step back. This glorious revolution for the people,

852
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,559
you know, the good guys, for everyone, the common man,

853
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:14,519
right against the tyranny, manipulate and instruct a small child

854
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:20,239
to get on the stand at his mother's execution trial.

855
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,119
She'd done nothing wrong other than just be married to

856
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,000
the king. She had no choice in it and say

857
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:29,119
tell everyone your mom raped you.

858
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,039
Speaker 2: Yes, it's okay.

859
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: If it's you know, I guess the ends justify the means,

860
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,519
do they? No, not remotely. The people who did the

861
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:44,400
French Revolution were bad fucking people. You can have a

862
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,679
good complaint and still be a fucking terrible person. And

863
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,039
they're probably grifters too, you know what I mean. Like

864
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,000
it's the type of thing where they see like, oh man,

865
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:56,000
the common people are unhappy over some some serious bullshit.

866
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: It's like I can take advantage of Yeah, how can I.

867
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,519
Speaker 1: Use this to my They're all just like l Ron

868
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,000
Hubbard's like, how can I get these rubes to worship me?

869
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: At least? Elron Hubbert essentially got us to the moon.

870
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,639
Speaker 1: Did he?

871
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah? Elaborate Well, all right, So there was a rocket

872
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:16,960
engineer from NASA that did a shit ton of like

873
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:20,079
mushrooms and different drugs with l Ron Hubbert in the desert.

874
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,639
I think they fucked each other too.

875
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh I remember you talking about this, mm hmm.

876
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: It was a jac episode back then, but NASA guy bangs.

877
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: Hubbert.

878
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Jack Parsons Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

879
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,559
So Jack Parsons went and had like a I don't know,

880
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:41,239
drugged fueled orgy with l Ron Hubbert, and apparently that

881
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,760
gave him a bunch of inspiration perfect for his rocket technology.

882
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,679
Speaker 1: I feel like it didn't feel like a physical textbook.

883
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,559
Probably did that, but.

884
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,679
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, but I don't know. If he gets there,

885
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:51,519
if he doesn't bang out.

886
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe it was maybe he gave him the courage.

887
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,599
That's my general rule of thumb. Though. If I see

888
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,400
something I'm like in any political thing today, I'm like,

889
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,559
just this remind me of the French Revolution in any way,

890
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:04,079
And if the answers yes, then I'm.

891
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: Like, I'm out. Nope, That's why I did this episode.

892
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,840
I'm like, yeah, a lot of parallels here.

893
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like nah nah.

894
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: So Marie Antoinette would meet the same fate as her husband,

895
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,480
same place. Nine months later. As she approached the guillotine,

896
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,800
she accidentally stepped on the Executionerier's foot. Her last words

897
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,920
were part of me monsieur.

898
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, mister yep. Her last words were sorry, mister.

899
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,159
Speaker 2: Classic woman always apologized, yeah sorry.

900
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: That is funny that she apologized on her way up

901
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,239
to the sorry sorry, like her kid, although I will say,

902
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480
by the way, so back to the kid being forced

903
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:46,440
to say his mom raped him. They actually did retract

904
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:50,679
that because the women in the audience, like the mothers

905
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,239
in the audience in the courtroom were like fuck this,

906
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,079
like they like they truly were like this is too

907
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,599
fucking much. And the prosecution was like, oh, shoot, were

908
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,119
losing them. So they like were like okay, okay.

909
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that didn't happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then

910
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:07,639
you're just blatantly just made that up. Yep, seems like

911
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,400
anything else you say moving forward is not.

912
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,519
Speaker 1: Serious, right exactly. But they did walk it back because

913
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:17,039
all the brothers were like what the fuck, and and yeah,

914
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:19,159
they're like okay, okay, okay, okay, okaykid.

915
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:25,119
Speaker 2: Revolutionaries toss their bodies into coffins, dumped them in unmarked graves,

916
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:29,440
and covered them with quickline at a cemetery in Paris,

917
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,320
along with the remains of thousands of other guillotine victims

918
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,639
during that time.

919
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're buried somewhere.

920
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:39,679
Speaker 2: Who knows. All symbols of the monarchy were attacked, which

921
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:43,159
meant bringing up the decaying bodies of kings, queens and consorts.

922
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,880
In July seventeen ninety three, they just kept desecrating royal tombs,

923
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,239
and it became like official business of the government. Suite

924
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,360
revolutionaries dug up the royal bodies at the Basilica of

925
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Saint Denis, where the vast majority of French had been

926
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,800
buried for centuries. We're talking about people from like hundreds

927
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,559
of years before.

928
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,079
Speaker 1: Probably talking about fucking Saint Louis like a literal saint.

929
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,480
They don't like the church anymore.

930
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, royal bodies were dug, dug up and reburied

931
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,440
in this manner, including Henry the Fourth, Catherine Medici. The

932
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,840
bodies of Henry the Second, his wife Eleanor, and son

933
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Richard the Lionheart, all of whom were buried in France,

934
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:30,519
were likewise removed and scattered during the revolution.

935
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh so they even dug up English kings. Yeah, that's funny.

936
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,119
I didn't realize Richard Lenhart was buried in France. M dude.

937
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, England and France are just so tightly knitted.

938
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it always.

939
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: Didn't really make sense that they were always at war

940
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,920
because it was the same family, right, A lot of

941
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the similar you know, it's cousin.

942
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:53,559
Speaker 1: The French conquered England and then England just absorbed just

943
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made them English, basically.

944
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: William the conquer.

945
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they were like, let's go back and

946
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,360
take the mother land.

947
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: When the cobbler who took Louis's son was forced to

948
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,159
go away in January seventeen ninety four, I don't know

949
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:07,760
what that means. It's just a go away.

950
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: He was disappeared. Yeah, who knows.

951
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: The boy was locked up in Paris's Temple prison and

952
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,119
left to rot Over the next year. The uncaring guards

953
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:22,000
basically neglected the ten year old child to death. Underfed, lonely,

954
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,679
and utterly miserable. The ten year old boy finally died

955
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:29,639
of tuberculosis in summer of seventeen ninety five.

956
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Speaker 1: Good people.

957
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:33,599
Speaker 2: It took until two thousand and four for his remains

958
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:36,920
to be identified and buried near his parents. They found

959
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,920
there that they found Louis and Rie Antoine.

960
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a I mean, just like, fuck, these people,

961
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,400
these people are awful. Anyone who looked at the front,

962
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,840
like you look at like a picture of the French

963
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,800
Revolution and it's like a crowd like waving flags and like,

964
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,599
you know, it seems aspirational until you read like one

965
00:48:55,679 --> 00:48:58,800
thing they did, like you don't even it can literally

966
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,960
be a cursory read. You don't even need to get

967
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,519
in the weeds. Like the headlines are bad enough. It's

968
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:11,559
I hate, I hate the French Revolution so fucking much

969
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:13,119
at some point, none of.

970
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,559
Speaker 2: The Jefferson kind of about it.

971
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:17,159
Speaker 1: He was all about it, all about it.

972
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,079
Speaker 2: That's kind of a striking because.

973
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Speaker 1: Jefferson was like a lot of these revolutionaries. He was

974
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,480
smarter obviously, and he was a good president, but like

975
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:30,840
in his spirit, like it like most people who call

976
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,920
for like revolution, they just want the revolution, you know

977
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,199
what I mean.

978
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: Until I think he actually went to France and saw

979
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,599
like firsthand, I think he maybe backed away from it

980
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:40,840
a bit.

981
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and once like Lafayette probably got on the outs.

982
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lafayette I think kind of went to Austria. I

983
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,440
think he was in prison for a bit.

984
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Lafayete probably talks and sense in him too,

985
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,920
and it was like, dude, you don't fucking understand what's

986
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,519
going on here. Like I know it sounds nice because

987
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:59,159
that was like in his spirit, Jefferson was very much

988
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,800
like it's like someone who has a lot of great

989
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,639
ideas for screenplays but never writes any of them, you

990
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,119
know what I mean? That's like a revolutionary and they're like, well,

991
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:12,440
I'm so creative of all these ideas, but they never

992
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:16,639
sit down and like bang anything out. They just want

993
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:18,079
to talk about their fucking ideas.

994
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,199
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Lafayette died in pneumonia in eighteen thirty four,

995
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,000
nice in Paris, at the age of seventy six. He's

996
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,000
buried with soil from Bunker Hill placed on his coffin.

997
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,119
So he loved that. It fulfilled his wish of being

998
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:38,800
both French and American. Soil love dude, lof hits the man.

999
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,960
We should do an episode in Loafia.

1000
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:40,599
Speaker 1: He is the band.

1001
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is just kind of the French Revolution up

1002
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,440
until Louis dies and where were we Antwinette dies obviously

1003
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:51,880
robes Pierre and the reign of.

1004
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: Terror, whole other situation.

1005
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: We could probably do an entire episode on that, and

1006
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,800
we will ultimately.

1007
00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: I have mentioned they're just the best thing about the

1008
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,840
French Revolution all it like, yeah, they killed the king

1009
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,880
and they killed the queen, and it also resulted in

1010
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,760
the deaths of millions and millions of commoners, like literal

1011
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,559
probably tens of millions from all the wars and the

1012
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:17,000
wrongful executions and more. Wars under Napoleon, who was a

1013
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,760
direct result of the French Revolution ironically. Yeah, it's just

1014
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,039
a huge waste of time. They didn't do anything right.

1015
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. An estimated seventeen thousand people died in the Reign

1016
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,639
of Tear alone.

1017
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then obviously from the Wars of Revolution through

1018
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,840
the Napoleonic Wars its millions. Just a completely pointless exercise.

1019
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,119
They got nothing accomplished, nothing accomplished because they ended up

1020
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:46,559
with the king. Yeah, they with an emperor, and the

1021
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:48,760
emperor gets opposed and they put a king back in charge.

1022
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,599
Then there's more revolutions. They eventually get a republic, and

1023
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:55,599
then they get another king, and then it's another finally

1024
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:56,960
republicked after that or something.

1025
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,559
Speaker 2: It's hard to please the French. They always every you know,

1026
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:02,199
five ten years, need to burn something on.

1027
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,519
Speaker 1: They riot every time they want to pay raise.

1028
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just light something up.

1029
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:11,559
Speaker 1: It is it is that that moment forever changed the

1030
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:16,119
French into like just these fucking weirdos that don't know

1031
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:18,519
what they want, but they want to light things on fire.

1032
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: They don't care, but they do care.

1033
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not care.

1034
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: I do not care about they care.

1035
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,199
Speaker 1: But they do not fucking French.

1036
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, come out as French.

1037
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Like truly the French. Every revolution really goes the way

1038
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,719
of the French and Russian Revolution, which is why the

1039
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,639
American Revolution is actually so dope because it was serious

1040
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,280
people doing it. It wasn't a bunch of fucking I mean,

1041
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,280
like there were obviously like you know, kind of head

1042
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,519
in the clouds types.

1043
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,559
Speaker 2: Like more of the roses, kind of has a clean

1044
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:54,079
ending to a degree, you have the tutors that take over.

1045
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Or you want to go a good one, a good

1046
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,440
another good revolution to be like the Glorious Revolution, which

1047
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,039
is called so because no one died, they just changed things. Yeah,

1048
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,480
that's what you want. But anyone that's like I gotta

1049
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:10,880
take to the streets like it's a French revolution, the

1050
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,920
fucking throw those people into the river. They're horrible and

1051
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,760
they will only the only people that die in revolutions.

1052
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,719
For every king that dies, for the oligarch that dies.

1053
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,000
It's like fifty thousand normal people who you're claiming to help.

1054
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's today's hitler?

1055
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,039
Speaker 1: All of every French commoner.

1056
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: The National Assembly of Commoner, Yeah, all of them.

1057
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: But specifically the prosecutor who was like, let's have the

1058
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,960
kids say his mom molested him.

1059
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not great.

1060
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: That's one of the more evil things I've read in history.

1061
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,119
I mean there's obviously way more evil shit like actually actually,

1062
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:56,159
although they did actually kill the child as well. But yeah,

1063
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:59,519
just pieces of shit from start to end.

1064
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: What did you learn today?

1065
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: I knew a lot of this, uh, because I took

1066
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,760
a class in college on the French Revolution. So I'm

1067
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,719
like cumald and Johnny who had the greatest tweet of

1068
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,119
all time when he said he knew Trump was Hitler

1069
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:23,239
because he took a class on Hitlaar in college. Sick

1070
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,280
sick did He deleted that tweet, but it's still one

1071
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,559
of the funniest things ever. Like it just this isn't

1072
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:29,840
the time.

1073
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: It's just like the laziest comparison. Yeah, I just dismiss

1074
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,199
you whenever you say Hitler.

1075
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: Which is why we do that on this show. Yeah,

1076
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,239
but I did actually didn't know about this stuff in

1077
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,840
poop and people's mouths or ripping that chick to threads

1078
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,960
not great. Yeah. Yeah.

1079
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Also the uh you know, you take the Bastille the

1080
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,719
guy surrender and you're just like, all right, now you're dead.

1081
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't it always mystifies me.

1082
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:58,039
Speaker 2: Also, the Bastille there was only like seven political prisoners

1083
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:02,440
in it at the time. Yeah, and symbol they I

1084
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,119
think they demolished it a couple of weeks later, like

1085
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:07,719
they were just like they planned to get rid of

1086
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,199
it anyway.

1087
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's old. Yeah, it's funny they still celebrate Beasteel day.

1088
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,480
It's not a good day. It's not a great day,

1089
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:19,840
like fourth of July is a good day, like a

1090
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,159
brilliant document was signed into not I don't know laws.

1091
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Due j fourteen. It'd be like a celebrate in j Sex.

1092
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,519
Speaker 1: It's just not a good day. It's not celebratory in

1093
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:35,840
any way whatsoever. The Fresh Revolution sucks, dude, Like literally

1094
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,599
anyone who looks at that and is like, no, it

1095
00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:40,639
was actually great. Yeah, they got a little out of hand,

1096
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,400
like no, no shitty from start to finish, ended up

1097
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,280
worse than they started. Revolution. If you don't have serious

1098
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,519
people doing things, that's what's gonna happen. And most revolutions

1099
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:57,119
don't have serious people doing things. They might have mean people,

1100
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,679
determined people, but they don't have serious people.

1101
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,159
Speaker 2: Well that's all I got today. Thank you for tuning in.

1102
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,760
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1106
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point three years of evergreen content, so so many episodes

1107
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:24,599
is that you can find nowhere else?

1108
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:26,119
Speaker 1: You never get through it. When do we say four years?

1109
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,199
I feel like it's coming on four I don't know, man,

1110
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:29,239
who knows? Who could say?

1111
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: I think it's our five year anniversary really soon? Just

1112
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:35,920
in general, man, Yeah, yeah, either July or August.

1113
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget when the first episode came out. We

1114
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:39,239
probably recorded.

1115
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: We've been knowing this for so long.

1116
00:56:41,559 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: It feels like just yesterday.

1117
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: I know.

1118
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for Jake to walk back in that door.

1119
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,119
He will.

1120
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna become crawling back pathetic. I know, we'll

1121
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:55,199
see Jake. We'll see you soon, the side or the other.

1122
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:03,119
Speaker 1: It's been a long that got you, my friend. I

1123
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:06,719
don't know the rest sports you shouldn't really. No, it

1124
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,400
was a Whiz Khalifa song, Sam Smith Whiz Khalifa. Gross. Yeah,

1125
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,159
it's not great.

1126
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about Paul Walker. Yeah, r I p

1127
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:24,079
two uh speaking of pedophiles, Rough Fox, I'm Damna Jester

1128
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:24,960
and you just got Saucer