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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to richer Within with me, Catherine, activate your inner

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<v Speaker 1>wealth of wisdom? What if the answers you seek are

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<v Speaker 1>already inside you? On this podcast, I, along with doctor Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>explore what it means to truly rely on your inner guidance,

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<v Speaker 1>moving beyond the noise of external influences to reconnect with

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<v Speaker 1>your unique magnificence. Each episode offers compelling, real life stories

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<v Speaker 1>Discover how to activate your inner wealth of wisdom, your

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<v Speaker 1>wow and harness the universal creative process to shape a

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<v Speaker 1>life even beyond your imagination. Ready to embrace liberating responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for your life, own your worth, and trust your inner guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>That is such a great introduction. I'm doctor Pat and

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<v Speaker 2>Katherine and I get to take this journey together. But

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<v Speaker 2>You'll find everything you need there. Get ready for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a little trigger on this preparing for

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<v Speaker 2>this one today's episode? Is this only human? Or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>something more?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, here's what I want to say about this. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about this only human? How do we

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<v Speaker 2>know whether there's something more? How do we understand what

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<v Speaker 2>the word human is? Now? I know I go off

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<v Speaker 2>on the pop culture thing every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got to tell you that's Spielberg movie Discover

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<v Speaker 2>What Disclosure Day. That really gets you to think about

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<v Speaker 2>some things you never thought about before. But the whole

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<v Speaker 2>point of this is why can't we be both? Why

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<v Speaker 2>can't we be all of it? Do you think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that whoever you believe in was you know? I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up thinking the stalk drop me off. So

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<v Speaker 2>the stork flies in and drops the baby offs like

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't tell me the real story about that for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. But then some days we discovered that

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<v Speaker 2>bird didn't bring nobody in. But then we don't know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then who am I? What am I? And what could

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<v Speaker 2>I become? See? This is what We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what is the lens that we're looking through as

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<v Speaker 2>we look at our lives? What are we looking through?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you believe that you're going to be leap

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<v Speaker 2>frogging ahead in the way of life you want? Believing

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<v Speaker 2>you're only human? I'm not going to answer that question, Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should answer that one.

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<v Speaker 1>In two words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it. You know, here's a funny story.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I started when I was a kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I mentioned that to you, but I started

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<v Speaker 2>really badly, all right, And I remember, like it's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be in fifth grade when we start to use

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<v Speaker 2>the word human and science and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I could not get that word out. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little triggered by this episode because I had

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<v Speaker 2>practiced it. And when I practiced the episode, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to stutter the word human. Okay, we can do a

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<v Speaker 2>whole show on that. But it's so interesting how we

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<v Speaker 2>absorb things in our life, how we either remember things,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I remember what happened that allowed me to

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<v Speaker 2>say that word. Now, clearly I started for the next

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, but let's talk about could the moment that

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<v Speaker 2>I reached that I actually could utter the word human

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of fifteen million other versions of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it have been something more?

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine, Well, it sure sounds like it to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say that when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this today, there's no right answer, right and what There's

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<v Speaker 1>no right answer and there's no wrong answer. It's simply

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<v Speaker 1>an exploration so that people may begin to think about

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<v Speaker 1>what you've been thinking about and describing, Well, how does

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<v Speaker 1>it feel to me? And what does it do to

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<v Speaker 1>me on my insides? How do I feel when I

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<v Speaker 1>think I am only human? I am a human being?

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's because there's three phrases that we hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, right, I we're only human one, two we

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<v Speaker 1>are human beings having a spiritual experience. And three we

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<v Speaker 1>are spiritual beings having a human experience. So we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at these in terms of identity and experience. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are the lens through which we live our lives

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<v Speaker 1>and create our identities. So thinking of I'm only human,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean why even say only I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you that let's just say I'm human. I'm I'm human,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the point of and maybe why it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only human is because that leaves room for compassion

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<v Speaker 1>when we make a mistake, when we're feeling like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just human like, and what if it's limiting, what if

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of an excuse. There's a song in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies called I'm only human, right, No, I'm only human

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<v Speaker 1>bone to make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>I read the lyrics when I remember that song, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a guy asking for forgiveness because he had

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<v Speaker 1>an affair. Excuse me and forgive me because I'm only human.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uh huh, yeah, So can we use it

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<v Speaker 1>as a limitation perhaps, And so there's different ways to

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<v Speaker 1>look at I'm human.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, we are human.

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<v Speaker 1>We are flesh and blood and bones, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>evolved into this physical temple and some people believe and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all there is and that's okay. And when I die,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all there is and that's okay. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, and that's okay. That's one lens. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that for me, when I feel the most human

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<v Speaker 1>is when I look in the mirror and I see

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<v Speaker 1>myself maturing over time. I'm going to put it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's not so easy. It's not so easy

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes to watch myself change in that way, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very very human in those moments. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very vulnerable in those moments. And when I am doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel myself literally getting smaller because I'm identifying with

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<v Speaker 1>a self that I know is only here for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this body was it built to last forever

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<v Speaker 1>as a human body. You know, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen in the future, but I wasn't meant

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<v Speaker 1>to live forever in this physical temple and what I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to. So that's kind of where I think

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<v Speaker 1>it goes into, you know, feeling human. I'm not denying it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not denying that I feel that way sometimes and

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<v Speaker 1>that I can also expand my own consciousness with choice

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<v Speaker 1>and with creativity and with possibility. Okay, so then this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm seeing, This is how I'm feeling. How

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<v Speaker 1>can I experience differently? What can I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I can do about that. With the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm human and what I'm feeling particularly human, or when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pouting about something and I'm feeling human and small,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel nice, lovey when you talk that

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<v Speaker 1>look at my body is actually contracting. I'm feeling smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know that's a cop right. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know when people say I'm only human, you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what that means. When they do that, that means I

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<v Speaker 2>Am not going to be accountable for my stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to tell you how I'm only you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to accept that and love me anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not going to ask me a follow up

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<v Speaker 2>question unless you're Linda. But beyond all that, that is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest relationship cop out things that is

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<v Speaker 2>said between two people. Right, Try saying that to your boss. Okay, Whoopsie,

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<v Speaker 2>But what you're talking about is so great. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that we're talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a panel once and they asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>They asked everybody in the panel, would you freeze yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Freeze your body? What's the expression? What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Free on time capsule or something?

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<v Speaker 2>And I had four other of my colleagues on there

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, no, I live in the life.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh yeah, I freeze myself in a minute. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it just generated all of this sick discussion on

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<v Speaker 2>why they thought I would do that, and I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>the panel. I said, dude, wait all of you. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do it for some psychological I want to age,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I think the future and the technology we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to develop in the future. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>miss that, you know, part of this journey. Talk about this,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's talk about aging aging for a minute, and

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<v Speaker 2>aging gracefully versus what's happening now. Loneliness is in epidemic

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<v Speaker 2>form M regarding to aging. Did you know that I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised by that. And that's where I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when we start talking about human beings having a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual experience, then that expands from loneliness into knowing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never ever alone. And so if I'm obviously I'm a human,

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<v Speaker 1>I am human. I am a human being and having

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<v Speaker 1>e spiritual experience. Having spiritual experiences, well what does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean to me? A spiritual experience is something beyond my

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<v Speaker 1>rational mind. It is often spontaneous. I didn't plan it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sometimes I plan things and I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be a great thing to do, and I

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<v Speaker 1>trust that I'm going to go deeper and something wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>again him Most of the time it is totally spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll give you an example a recently, and these

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual experiences also for me, are this spontaneous experience of joy,

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<v Speaker 1>of awe, of being completely in the moment, of like

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<v Speaker 1>forgetting all my age, forgetting my quote unquote limitations, forgetting

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<v Speaker 1>what I should do, what I shouldn't do, what I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do, what I'm supposed to do. And I'm whatever age,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever culture says you can and can't do it, do they?

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<v Speaker 1>I am nowhere anywhere near that ill limitation. I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment. And so recently I went to Mount Shasta.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a meditation retreat, and they had this beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the property. It had a couple bridges over it.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the afternoons we had off for a

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<v Speaker 1>put on my bathing suit and I went down to

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<v Speaker 1>the river. I had the whole place to myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the up river from everybody else, and I

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<v Speaker 1>spent the entire time crawling around in my bare feet, hands,

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<v Speaker 1>the dipping in little swimming pools and little little pools

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<v Speaker 1>and joy and playfulness. I was singing camp songs I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't remembered in decades. I was singing to the river,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking. You know, you know what a kid

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<v Speaker 1>does when they're playing, And so to me, that is

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<v Speaker 1>that human being having a spiritual experience. It was timeless.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I finally did look at my watch,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I'm immediately from dinner and being very

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<v Speaker 1>full of life. And it's this sense of being less

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<v Speaker 1>myself than ever and yet more of myself. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not self conscious. I was simply playing in

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<v Speaker 1>To get back to your question and point about this

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and And what you're pointing to, doctor pad

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<v Speaker 1>that means we're timeless. You know that that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>beings practicing being human, that we're spiritual beings learning to

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<v Speaker 1>inhabit humanness. So you know, people like Carl Sagan, we

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<v Speaker 1>and this is part of it, right, This is part

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<v Speaker 1>And yet who am I beyond that? What if at

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<v Speaker 1>and where I get to remember and to express that

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<v Speaker 1>all of that and being in those moments. I had

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, everything disappeared. There was nothing except for

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. There was nothing. I was aware that I was,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet everything else simply dropped way back, just like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just like that, the wave comes in. The

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<v Speaker 1>people emerged from, you know. And so these are those

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful moments of transcendence where when we take the time

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<v Speaker 1>to drop everything, really, whether it's in nature, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>on your meditation pillar, whether it's a moment during the

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<v Speaker 1>day during meat to drop into that mourness, that is possible. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody relates to that, and I respect that and

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<v Speaker 1>I get it completely, and so it's a beautiful possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think and believe that we can live

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<v Speaker 1>in all three in one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, There's days I spill a lot of milk, and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel human also? Just now I spill milk.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's days when I feel more human and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>have these wows, these moments of timelessness, and this thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make up, you can't buy it, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>read it, you can't learn it. It simply is. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the moments of just feeling that there is something

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<v Speaker 1>of and am in that river, in that river of life.

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<v Speaker 2>And aren't these things, though important and help us move

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the anger, the jealousy, the envy, like the mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>We did a show on shutar Wodakuda almost but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to have some remedy, but we keep looking

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<v Speaker 2>outside like a pill, potion, lotion or maybe I should

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, watch that live streaming whatever that is

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty four But you're talking about looking at this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at the beauty of our humanness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding it, but also understanding that ain't the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>we've been given.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And in that I love what you just said

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<v Speaker 1>about the beauty of our humanness. And it's about recognizing

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<v Speaker 1>the immense within the every day, right, that expansiveness within

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<v Speaker 1>every day. And so you know, we're not here to

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<v Speaker 1>escape our humanity nor be defined by it, like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but to inhabit it more consciously. And there's a choice

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<v Speaker 2>You know I came to my own conclusion on why

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<v Speaker 2>Seth lived nine hundred and thirty five years. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know. They're just a bunch of people. I came

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<v Speaker 2>to my own conclusion about that many many years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people say it's not true, so I was just

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<v Speaker 2>wasting my time with all their brain power. But to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, we are powerful beyond belief, beyond measure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we really are. But the reason we are is because

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<v Speaker 2>we are more than our humanness. And that's what you're

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<v Speaker 2>reminding us of today, and you're going to walk us

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<v Speaker 2>through a way to reflect on that on an ongoing basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it be my delight and my honor and my

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to do that. So I fondly call this a

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<v Speaker 1>anyone listening, just continue to listen. If you're doing something

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<v Speaker 1>take that moment to center in. I invite you to

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<v Speaker 1>and simply let it go. Simply allow the breath to

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<v Speaker 1>an infinite universe. It is all that There is no circumference,

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<v Speaker 1>And so this means right here and right now, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all of the power imaginable, all of the

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<v Speaker 1>that energy that is inexhaustible and inextinguishable. It simply infinitely

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<v Speaker 1>embodiments of the very same power, presence, and intelligence. We

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<v Speaker 1>one of us in this physical temple, expressing as consciousness

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<v Speaker 1>we belong to the universe as its beloved expressions. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I speak this word with great joy and confection

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone within the sound of my voice, that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful embodiment of this. Everyone is a star

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped in skin billions of years in the making as

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<v Speaker 1>them one time around. Only way to express this to

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<v Speaker 1>to live that life that is wonderful beyond their deepest imagination,

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<v Speaker 1>of all of creation, that is that impulse within them.

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<v Speaker 1>And as they do, more good unfolds than they had

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<v Speaker 1>it is our spiritual birthright. And in that knowing I

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<v Speaker 1>the infinite field of possibility, that place of absolute, unconditional

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<v Speaker 1>love that always says yes, yes, my beloved, and you

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<v Speaker 1>it to be so, and I released this, and we

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<v Speaker 2>So it is. Catherine, thank you so very much. If

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<v Speaker 2>people want to have his personal experience with you for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever is going on in their lives, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>best way for them to contact you?

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<v Speaker 1>Contact me through richer within dot com and I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>my adventures into nature where I have these beautiful moments

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a star. We'll see you next time.

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