Speaker 1: You know, I saw a tweet from a w fan account,
Speaker 1: very popular one, and I like what they say, like
Speaker 1: all the time, but mentioned that wearing the coal rush
Speaker 1: uniform and putting out that type of performance is not
Speaker 1: representative of the state. And as much as I love
Speaker 1: the state of West Virginia, I have to say, actually,
Speaker 1: it is kind of very representative. Trying to celebrate coal
Speaker 1: and then falling flat on your face is pretty representative
Speaker 1: of the state of West Virginia. They should move on
Speaker 1: from coal. Respect all the coal miners. You have a
Speaker 1: hard and dangerous job, but there are other things to
Speaker 1: celebrate about the great state of West Virginia, and natural
Speaker 1: beauty being one of those that. By the way, coal
Speaker 1: ruins a lot of But you know, hey, windmills are
Speaker 1: the problem, not strip mining where you take off an
Speaker 1: entire top of a mountain.
Speaker 2: Correct, yes, yes, absolutely, But no, I thought they look.
Speaker 1: Falcons one on Sunday, John, That's what I'm focusing on.
Speaker 1: Tech one at UGA. That's a great win for them.
Speaker 1: Auburn didn't have to cause your household any internal stress today.
Speaker 2: Well neither did Florida State.
Speaker 1: By the way, you're right, you're right. You got to
Speaker 1: watch opposing fans, you know, go through the consternation of
Speaker 1: being a football fan this weekend.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is absolutely true, and we talked about it
Speaker 2: on the OS two side of things. With the other
Speaker 2: elements and things that went on. We were all either
Speaker 2: looking at everybody else and not worrying about our bye
Speaker 2: week and wondering how we could still be fifteenth in
Speaker 2: a conference of seventeen schools. But there was a moment,
Speaker 2: and there was a moment in US soccer where it
Speaker 2: was officially official. First off, was Q two even full?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it was officially full, It
Speaker 1: was close. They announced the night before the game that
Speaker 1: they had basically like what they needed two thousand tickets
Speaker 1: to be sold. Wow, which you know is disheartening because
Speaker 1: Q two is only a stadium of just over twenty thousand,
Speaker 1: So the fact that they weren't able to m yeah, attended, well,
Speaker 1: they announced attends at twenty two thirty nine, so I
Speaker 1: guess it was a full house.
Speaker 2: Congratulators, it was, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would hope that, you know, US soccer would have
Speaker 1: been able to sell out the match of the first Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first match of its new head coach, the best
Speaker 1: biggest head coach of its history. But you know, oh well,
Speaker 1: apparently they did sell out. Good for them. It took
Speaker 1: them all up until the day of the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we end up with a a win for
Speaker 2: the United States. And the way that John Arnold at
Speaker 2: all phrased it was this, It was that Pochettino's US
Speaker 2: M and T passed the vibe check. How long will
Speaker 2: the good times roll? He says. Soccer is about physical
Speaker 2: ability and skill, plus the collective understanding of how best
Speaker 2: to work together to score goals get the other team
Speaker 2: scoring on you. But especially at the international level, vibes
Speaker 2: enter the equation too, whether it's frustration with a certain
Speaker 2: coaches style of play, anger at recent results, or even
Speaker 2: national moods spilling into the sporting sphere. What's going on
Speaker 2: around a team often has a big effect on a
Speaker 2: team's form, even when it seems superior in the ability
Speaker 2: and skills sector. That may even be more true in
Speaker 2: the Concacaff region, where the depth of any given national
Speaker 2: team is unlikely to match that of counterparts in UEFA
Speaker 2: or Connoble. My friends at the World of Concacaff podcasts
Speaker 2: say that Concacaff is a vibes based economy.
Speaker 1: Cocacaff is a vibees based economy.
Speaker 2: That is a fact while hiring Murcio Pochettino or Jesse
Speaker 2: Marsha Javier Giray is designed to take advantage of a
Speaker 2: coach's experience at the highest levels of the club game.
Speaker 2: They're also intended to change the vibes. No one would
Speaker 2: argue the vibes were good at the end of Greg
Speaker 2: Burholter's tenure leading to the US men's national team, and
Speaker 2: no one will argue there anything but good. One game
Speaker 2: into the Pochatino Era after a two nail victory over Panama,
Speaker 2: What say you, Bart Keeler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that for starters, you got to win
Speaker 1: over Panama, which under the Burholter tenure was kind of
Speaker 1: this bugaboo team, right, I mean, Panama beat us in
Speaker 1: World Cup qualifying down there. They proved to be a
Speaker 1: problem for us in Gold Cups, you know, knocked us
Speaker 1: out of the last of the twenty twenty three Gold Cup.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of math.
Speaker 1: Beat us obviously in Copoamerica for you know, and there
Speaker 1: are some extenuating circumstances around them. You remember that loss
Speaker 1: in World Cup qualifying. We had Josse Artas starting, which
Speaker 1: is a recipe for disturb for anyone. You then lost
Speaker 1: in that Gold Cup in twenty twenty three because you know,
Speaker 1: Panama doesn't have a B squad, they have their A
Speaker 1: squad and the US was playing somewhere between a D
Speaker 1: and a B squad. And then obviously with the Copa
Speaker 1: America result, it was because you had, you know, a
Speaker 1: red card by Tim Wayev for being a little dumb.
Speaker 1: But you know, this was definitely not a first choice
Speaker 1: lineup from the US, right, not just with the injuries
Speaker 1: that we knew of coming into camp, but then the
Speaker 1: players that were selected were probably not the first choice
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that would be picking a team,
Speaker 1: and there are obvious reasons for that. I'm sure we
Speaker 1: will have a question about. And so the fact that
Speaker 1: you won is good because that as a reversal from
Speaker 1: what you've seen in recent history. But also John apparently
Speaker 1: saw one watching the broadcast, Panama had scored a goal
Speaker 1: on the US in at least five straight games. Wow,
Speaker 1: And so you got to shut out and that was
Speaker 1: the hallmark of the bird to Halter tener tenure, so
Speaker 1: I was told by his supporters, is that, Oh, his
Speaker 1: defensive scheme is very good. We don't give up a
Speaker 1: whole lot of goals. Again, Panama seemed to be the
Speaker 1: team that figured out how to Panama and Canada where
Speaker 1: the two teams that figured out how to score goals
Speaker 1: against the US consistently. And a lot of that is
Speaker 1: looking at what we saw. The difference between Saturday and
Speaker 1: what we saw a difference between you know, the last
Speaker 1: few games of the Burr Halter era was I think
Speaker 1: two things. One was just an intentionality to the play
Speaker 1: more frequently, okay. And then I don't want to say
Speaker 1: intensity because I don't think that's like a fair metric
Speaker 1: to use. It's a little that's a little two vibesy.
Speaker 1: But you could just tell that there was a understanding
Speaker 1: of the severity of Hey, I'm playing for the national team.
Speaker 1: We got to go win. Was it perfect? By no stretch?
Speaker 2: It was perfect? Right? It was?
Speaker 1: There were there were errant passes everywhere. There were obviously
Speaker 1: players who didn't live up to the moment at many times,
Speaker 1: some players who unfortunately, I think, failed to capitalize on
Speaker 1: the opportunity they had from you know, being able to
Speaker 1: start over players who were injured or being held out
Speaker 1: due to rest, but overall the team as a collective
Speaker 1: got a too well when at home in the first
Speaker 1: game of the punchetoon Era. And that's that's a positive.
Speaker 2: Unis Moussa scores on the forty ninth through Cardo Peppy
Speaker 2: scores at ninety plus four.
Speaker 1: That's what Peppy does. He scores in Austin.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. Just ask him.
Speaker 1: I've seen them scoring.
Speaker 2: As verities about that from his time at FCD. Uh
Speaker 2: sealed the victory and the USA's four game winless streak.
Speaker 2: Player ring or player ratings, And this is where we
Speaker 2: tear apart what Soccer America likes to do on a
Speaker 2: match by match basis. Matt Turner had a six early
Speaker 2: in the second half. Turner stops Panama's first good chance
Speaker 2: with the diving save, jumped up to block the close
Speaker 2: range shot off the rebound, so Matt Turner with a
Speaker 2: six in net For the United States defenders, Anthony Robinson
Speaker 2: gets a five. Mark McKenzie gets a five, Joe Scally
Speaker 2: gets a five. Tim Reen gets a six. Sparked the
Speaker 2: attack on the first goal with a long ball down
Speaker 2: the wing to Robinson, Reem and Mark McKenzie blocked several
Speaker 2: shots by Los Caneleros and mostly distributed safely, although McKenzie
Speaker 2: gifted Panama ball deep in the US half. In a
Speaker 2: free kick at at the edge of the area in
Speaker 2: the eighty seventh, Kinsey was beaten to the ball by
Speaker 2: Edguarda Farina, who hit wide from seven yards out. So
Speaker 2: five's basically across the board except for Tim Reim, who
Speaker 2: looks like he sparked an attack. Therefore he got plus
Speaker 2: one there and got a six.
Speaker 1: I think that's a little unfair to Jedi, who did
Speaker 1: I think a much better job in a slightly more
Speaker 1: advanced role. I know formations aren't a real thing, but
Speaker 1: it was like an unbalanced four three three four three,
Speaker 1: where like Jedi and Musa were technically in the same plane,
Speaker 1: but like Musa was a little bit higher than Jedi.
Speaker 1: Like it was like they were a little bit on
Speaker 1: a seesaw. But I thought Jedi was better than a five.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else did anything worth noting from
Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint, And again, I think McKenzie is one
Speaker 1: of those guys who did not take advantage of a
Speaker 1: chance to put a good foot forward for the manager.
Speaker 1: I know, again, you get the shutout, but a lot
Speaker 1: of times he committed fouls or got beat to a
Speaker 1: ball and it just wasn't He continues to be This
Speaker 1: a story of unfulfilled promise from Mark McKenzie where you
Speaker 1: watch him and you go, this guy could be really good,
Speaker 1: and then when it comes time to actually test him,
Speaker 1: he kind of doesn't always pass the test, or if
Speaker 1: he does, it's like at best to see and you know,
Speaker 1: that's disappointing when Tim Briam seems to be the most
Speaker 1: competent center back in your center back pool right now
Speaker 1: and he's you know, eighty seven years old.
Speaker 2: Yes, Midfielders Unice Mussa, Aiden Morris Joll, Lukabusio and Musa
Speaker 2: gets a seven. I'm guessing because you get the goal.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, ooh, you got the goal, so
Speaker 2: therefore you get a you get a plus, you get
Speaker 2: a blue star attack.
Speaker 1: If they called him a midfielder, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah uh imprecision contributed to the USA's failure to turn
Speaker 2: possession into scoring threats in the first half, forged Ford
Speaker 2: more than usual, storm through the penalty area to finish
Speaker 2: Poliitic's low cross for the first US goal to Pochattino Era,
Speaker 2: Unice gets unice, Mussa gets a seven. I'm guessing because
Speaker 2: he scored. Busio got a five, aiden Morris got a six.
Speaker 1: That's a little harsh for Bussio. I would have given
Speaker 1: both he and Morris a sixth, but they are both
Speaker 1: like above average. I thought Morris had some turnovers that
Speaker 1: were not great. But I think the issue here is
Speaker 1: and we'll get to the next guy as you had
Speaker 1: Aaronson also in this midfield kind of Amiba and outside
Speaker 1: of Musa, right, none of those three guys, Busio, Morris,
Speaker 1: Aronson have proven to be a real driver for the
Speaker 1: US men's national team. Right. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: guys who are really good passengers. Right. They might be
Speaker 1: your shotgun rider, great navigation, might be the backseat rider,
Speaker 1: great at distributing snacks, but they're not the guy driving
Speaker 1: you to the destination. And you know, I think you
Speaker 1: can trust Musa to get you there. But most of
Speaker 1: the other guys haven't proven that with the national team,
Speaker 1: and they didn't prove anything to that extent. But that's
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. They proved competent, and I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of the positive, is okay, Well, if you
Speaker 1: add them with A McKenzie, right, McKenny, excuse me, if
Speaker 1: you add them with Wes McKinney. If you add them
Speaker 1: maybe with Goo Rena who comes back Alphie. You know,
Speaker 1: if they're a piece of the midfield, great, But all
Speaker 1: three of those together, those guys just it didn't really
Speaker 1: work all that well.
Speaker 2: Forwards Josh Sergeant, Brendan Aaronson and Christian Polisic. Policit gets
Speaker 2: a seven. Brendan Aronson gets a five. Josh Sergeant was
Speaker 2: stripped of the ball when Busio found him at the
Speaker 2: top of the penalty area. Prime chance came in the
Speaker 2: forty second. Busio fed a eight yards out. Sergeant skied
Speaker 2: the ball over the crossbar. I think it landed at
Speaker 2: dk R and Sergeant did better with his.
Speaker 1: The racecourse there.
Speaker 2: John Yeah, out by the airport. It did better with
Speaker 2: his first shot of the second half, forcing a save
Speaker 2: with a seventeen yard shot. The our friends at Soccer America,
Speaker 2: and it was woy Tala who through the piece gave
Speaker 2: him a three.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, that's like that's like being in the
Speaker 3: That's like being in the backseat of the car and
Speaker 3: opening up the cooler and realizing that on the drive
Speaker 3: that you didn't hit the ziploc bag correctly and all
Speaker 3: the sandwiches because they were on top of ice, got
Speaker 3: all mushy.
Speaker 2: That would be a three for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think a three is worth is what
Speaker 1: he deserved. But I don't think he was close to average.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. I would have put him
Speaker 1: at a five or four maybe, But you know, I
Speaker 1: think this is the struggle with Josh Sergeant, is the
Speaker 1: dude hasn't scored in like ten years for the national team.
Speaker 1: It feels like, yeah, and despite everyone thinking he is
Speaker 1: the guy who should be starting. I mean even with Baligan,
Speaker 1: people are like, well, I don't know, Sergeant. He just
Speaker 1: continues to get chances and doesn't get anything from him.
Speaker 1: You know, And we've talked about this ad nauseum onto
Speaker 1: my podcast that you know, strikers need to be more
Speaker 1: involved with this national team. They don't score enough, they
Speaker 1: don't get involved enough. You know, he did have nineteen
Speaker 1: total touches, five in the penalty area. That's good, right,
Speaker 1: that's a decent number. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what are we doing with those opportunities? And when you
Speaker 1: not only miss your one good chance, but never find
Speaker 1: yourself in other good chances. I think his next best
Speaker 1: chance was like a corner kick or across the goal
Speaker 1: that the goalkeeper punched away, right, He just happened to
Speaker 1: be close to it. And so yeah, look, strikers rely
Speaker 1: on service. Strikers rely on other players around them to
Speaker 1: get them the ball. But it's also your job as
Speaker 1: a striker to put yourself in better positions to receive
Speaker 1: the ball and then play the ball off of you.
Speaker 1: And I think Sergeant just continues to not be able
Speaker 1: to do that for one reason, earning the other. It
Speaker 1: doesn't help when the other guy scores.
Speaker 2: By the way, No, no, And I'd love to know
Speaker 2: who it was in the State of Texas Chamber of
Speaker 2: Commerce or the city of Austin didn't get together with
Speaker 2: the schedule makers and have folks understand that when you
Speaker 2: have a Formula one race the same weekend as Georgia, Texas,
Speaker 2: that might be great for the economy, but when you're
Speaker 2: trying to find places to stay and trying to actually
Speaker 2: function in that town, that ain't the best thing to do. No.
Speaker 1: By A family tried to go to Austin this year
Speaker 1: for the Torgia Texas game, and my parents are even
Speaker 1: going to RV it, so, you know, not looking at that,
Speaker 1: but even flights into an out of Austin or crazy Austin.
Speaker 1: By the way, I talk about a city that needs
Speaker 1: a revamp of their airport, airport itself is nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that needs to be about three times bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know they're building a new terminal, but holy crap.
Speaker 1: You know it's when Columbus, Ohio has a bigger airport
Speaker 1: than you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Columbus has a better soccer team in Major
Speaker 2: League Soccer, but that's another discussion entirely.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Subs Tanner, Tessaman and Christopher Lung got fives, Hodgie Wright
Speaker 2: and Malick Tilman got six's. Peppy as a sub got
Speaker 2: a seven. Alexandaehouse got our incomplete because of the lack
Speaker 2: of minutes victory into the four game winless streak, USA's
Speaker 2: longest since twenty two, and it went winless for five,
Speaker 2: one loss and four draws. USA had lost their two
Speaker 2: previous games to Panama two, won it last Summer's Copa
Speaker 2: and in a shootout after a one one draw the
Speaker 2: twenty three World Cup. That is where we are when
Speaker 2: it comes to your subs and everybody who played in
Speaker 2: the two nil win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first off, I forgot that the US played. Thank
Speaker 1: you for reminding me of that. Oh yeah he did.
Speaker 1: I guess he was secondly on the field and the
Speaker 1: golf scored. So good friend. Uh, you know, I think overall,
Speaker 1: like I said, this was a team that performed slightly
Speaker 1: better than average. The win itself is just the positive
Speaker 1: here because as you just ran through, not only did
Speaker 1: we have a long losing streak or winless streak, I
Speaker 1: should say, we've also only won like one match since
Speaker 1: last March, right or since this March? Right that the
Speaker 1: Bolivia match. Okay, great, you beat Bolivia.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're not a good soccer team, John. So you know
Speaker 1: when you had lost to Colombia so badly, Yes, you
Speaker 1: tied Brazil, you still don't win. Sure you can beat Bolivia.
Speaker 1: And then you know you losed Panama away Canada, New Zealand,
Speaker 1: Like that was a skid you needed to break out of. Now.
Speaker 1: The problem is as we turned the page to Mexico.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mexico has their own issues right now. I
Speaker 1: mean they've lost to who they play, severe Valencia or
Speaker 1: one of those Lalliga teams I think was playing a
Speaker 1: first choice land up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are. They are in fact bart Ish US,
Speaker 2: you are correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they They gave up a two goal lead
Speaker 1: and ended up tying to to not great from L three.
Speaker 1: But for the US, look, you get the gwin. That is,
Speaker 1: that is the positive because again you you do need
Speaker 1: the positive reinforcement of the work that Poch put in
Speaker 1: for this week that said, if you expected a lot
Speaker 1: of grand changes and immediate you know, flips of the switch,
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna happen because Pochettino and Burhalter are not
Speaker 1: that far apart right. They're their coaching style there, uh
Speaker 1: or excuse me there, playing style. Their philosophy is about
Speaker 1: how the game is played. What we did see I
Speaker 1: think is multiple times throughout the match Patchettino urging the
Speaker 1: team to just play a little bit quicker and move
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit better. And that was something
Speaker 1: that you know, we had fallen into a lull under
Speaker 1: the Burholter tenure in the second you know, era two
Speaker 1: point zero Burholter is the horseshoe passed. I mean it
Speaker 1: looked very Pinita ballish right where there was a lot
Speaker 1: of passing with no actual intent to do anything with it.
Speaker 1: And in this match, you know, you could see Pochettino
Speaker 1: signaling to try to do something with the ball because
Speaker 1: you know that the goal. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this, John, the goal of soccer, the sport is
Speaker 1: to put the ball in the opponent's net. That's that's
Speaker 1: the whole point, right, do that more times than they
Speaker 1: do it to you, huh. And in order to do that,
Speaker 1: it does help to have the ball on their opponent's
Speaker 1: half and maybe close to their goal on occasion. So
Speaker 1: that is I think the one thing that I saw
Speaker 1: a difference of. There was also some more central combo
Speaker 1: play rather than just get it wide and cross it in,
Speaker 1: which is another problem with the Burholter strategy at the end.
Speaker 1: And so from those two things right there, it did
Speaker 1: look better. And again against the team in Panama that
Speaker 1: had been a problem for this program for a while now.
Speaker 2: All right, So Ropes was a question who had the
Speaker 2: best look Saturday. He liked that Bussia was playing.
Speaker 1: Who had the best look Peppy because he scored and
Speaker 1: Sergeant didn't.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And now Peppy is going home, which I'm a little
Speaker 1: upset about.
Speaker 2: And that's the that's the next thing I want to
Speaker 2: get into topic wise, but we keep going.
Speaker 1: No, I thought busy again. I thought, all those midfielders,
Speaker 1: to me, outside of Aaronson, proved that they are able
Speaker 1: to play in the midfield with other players who are
Speaker 1: better than them. But as a combo, that midfield was
Speaker 1: not superb and it's not going to get better on
Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, So that's concerning.
Speaker 2: Abby was surprised to hear about the player said it
Speaker 2: was the first time that they'd had a US M
Speaker 2: and T practice. It was two hours in the time
Speaker 2: that they had been on the national team. And Abby's like, really,
Speaker 2: they never had a practice it was two hours long.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, I think that's kind of a
Speaker 1: I don't maybe two hours is probably the most you'll
Speaker 1: get in a club training session. But like when you
Speaker 1: get to these national teams, you have to remember you
Speaker 1: get in on a Monday, and you play that Friday
Speaker 1: or Saturday, right sometimes Thursday. Yeah, so you don't have
Speaker 1: a whole lot of actual training time, and you certainly
Speaker 1: then don't have a whole lot of recovery time. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think, you know, people don't
Speaker 1: want to factor in a look if you think all
Speaker 1: they're doing is going out there and kicking a ball
Speaker 1: for two hours, which one is not what happens. You're
Speaker 1: not kicking a ball and doing soccer for two hours.
Speaker 1: You're doing a whole lot of things within the two
Speaker 1: hours on the field.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: From what I also could infer from a lot of
Speaker 1: these is, yes, it was intense, and yes there was
Speaker 1: a lot of training going on during the two hour
Speaker 1: training time. It seemed like Pocheccino was also stopping and explaining,
Speaker 1: maybe not fully, but like pulling players aside and having conversations.
Speaker 1: So I think it was more of a two hour
Speaker 1: installation session and two hour How do I also say
Speaker 1: this because all these coaches have their own types of
Speaker 1: training exercises too, right, And so I mean that quote
Speaker 1: came out what on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I think maybe we're not running you're not running around
Speaker 2: for a full two hours, but it is.
Speaker 1: Right, and you're probably going through the motions and understanding, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this training exercise, this is what we want
Speaker 1: to do, this is what the mechanics of it, this
Speaker 1: is why we're doing it, this is how it applies
Speaker 1: in game so I understand why that quote got a
Speaker 1: lot of Look, two hours is a very long time
Speaker 1: for a training session, especially at the national team level,
Speaker 1: where your recovery windows are shortened and your actual training
Speaker 1: availability short and you just don't want to run guys ragged.
Speaker 1: I don't think we saw that on Saturday. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the two hour thing is a
Speaker 1: little overblown. I promise you most guys aren't. Most teams
Speaker 1: aren't out there actually training for two hours. You can ask.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can ask Jason when you guys have
Speaker 1: watches at Lanta United. You know, yes, it may be
Speaker 1: two hours, but it's not. You're not playing a full.
Speaker 2: Game, yank, running around for a full two You're you're
Speaker 2: you're doing a lot of fun Yeah, you're like you're
Speaker 2: you're doing a lot of walking.
Speaker 1: With like funny movements in it.
Speaker 2: You're getting you're getting instruction. Yeah, you're being told, okay,
Speaker 2: you need to move over. Then you walk over to
Speaker 2: that spot. It's there's there's first.
Speaker 1: Ten to twenty minutes are like me high knees. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, likes that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: When I mentioned Jason hates so when I mentioned to
Speaker 2: touchies and things like that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, dynamic stretching and activations and all
Speaker 1: these things they happen on the field. They don't. You
Speaker 1: don't just come show up and be like all right,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I mean, like I said, we used to
Speaker 1: play handball in college half the time as a warm
Speaker 1: up because it was just like a fun way to
Speaker 1: like get your body moving, right, And yeah, we'd played
Speaker 1: that for ten minutes and then start kicking the ball around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that reminds me. Separate sidebar, how is how has
Speaker 2: Leonora Ryan navigated Helene? How are things from what you
Speaker 2: know up campus? So?
Speaker 1: I know campus and Hickory is was mostly fine. They
Speaker 1: lost power for obvious reasons, but Hickory itself was pretty good. Now,
Speaker 1: like every county that touches Kataba to the north and
Speaker 1: west were not good. I think maybe Alexander County was
Speaker 1: okay but probably should have been washed away. But like
Speaker 1: you had Wataga and Leonore that I look, Watagan called well,
Speaker 1: that got a little bad obviously. Watagan's where Boone is
Speaker 1: an app state? You talked to Liz McRae up in
Speaker 1: Avery County. Beautiful campus shout out to Kelly, who's the
Speaker 1: women's team coach there. She was the assistant coach at
Speaker 1: l R and I saw her over the summer for
Speaker 1: an ODP event.
Speaker 2: We are, by the way, catching up with Taylor Morton
Speaker 2: at some point early here in the week to get
Speaker 2: alis McCrae update.
Speaker 1: Good because they were much more effective than Hickory. The
Speaker 1: Ashville campus that open, I think last week. We have
Speaker 1: a Ashville campus. Well, we have a office building in Asheville.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably the campus, but that has been reopened,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what class looks like right now.
Speaker 1: But Hickory itself has been pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2: Heleen issues okay, because our friends at Hickory FC, if
Speaker 2: you are so inclined, they do have a fundraiser going
Speaker 2: for the eight to eight.
Speaker 1: And Hickory has kind of turned into, to be quite honest,
Speaker 1: a good dumping point, loading point maybe if you will,
Speaker 1: for a lot of the relief efforts, because it's one
Speaker 1: if you don't know, there's an airport in Hickory. And
Speaker 1: Hickory itself is again pretty pretty okay. Again, they lost power,
Speaker 1: there were trees down, but nothing major for the flooding.
Speaker 1: The major river that Hickory is on the is the Cataba,
Speaker 1: and it's one damned a lake Hickory. And two it's
Speaker 1: a big river, so you know, it's not overflowing like
Speaker 1: a lot of the small streams and creeks and in
Speaker 1: the Highland high country, so Hickory mostly.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's see. So I caught up with mc giordano.
Speaker 2: They have relocated to Charlotte, I believe, and so that's
Speaker 2: where that's where soccer is. The other school, the other
Speaker 2: programs on campus or at various other locations, but they
Speaker 2: have relocated. Others have relocated north to Fareham and Virginia.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're going to catch up with We're gonna
Speaker 2: catch up with Taylor at Lee's McCrae hopefully early part
Speaker 2: of the week, and we'll get an update with what's
Speaker 2: going on up there. Okay, So back from the sidebar,
Speaker 2: we have players who were rostered that are not going
Speaker 2: to be a part of your Double Jeopardy game in
Speaker 2: Mexico coming up this week. Christian Polisic, who got the assist,
Speaker 2: returned to AC Milan for what was termed load management.
Speaker 2: I feel like I need some kind of ominous background
Speaker 2: reverb there Fosse FOSSi, Fosse foss McKinney, Peppi, and Stefan
Speaker 2: returned to their teams with minor injuries. Peppi was the
Speaker 2: only player who played against Panama s that ten times fast.
Speaker 2: No players have been added to the squad. The twenty
Speaker 2: available for Tuesday's match Horrorvath, Shelty, Turner, Lund, Mackenzie, Reem Jedi, Miles,
Speaker 2: Scally and trust Defense Aaronson, Busio, Morris Musa, Tessaman Tillman
Speaker 2: in the midfield, and only four forwards Sarge Vasquez, Hodgie
Speaker 2: Wright and alex En Dejas.
Speaker 1: Which is concerning because, uh where are wingers? You know,
Speaker 1: as that means that Telman and Aaron center out for
Speaker 1: the winger position. Especially. I don't know if I trust
Speaker 1: alex and Dejas to start for a national team, let
Speaker 1: alone start in Mexico. But I do like the idea
Speaker 1: of Brandon Vasquez starting in Mexico and scoring against Mexico.
Speaker 2: You just like you, just like Irony, that's all.
Speaker 1: I like justice.
Speaker 2: Okay. Oh, so you have the former Major League Soccer
Speaker 2: player now playing in Lega MX who could have played
Speaker 2: for one national team and is playing for the national
Speaker 2: team that's going to be visiting on tomorrow. So so
Speaker 2: the the circular logic that seems to be attached here
Speaker 2: is the intriguing part of all of this. But you
Speaker 2: you like justice, sir? Okay?
Speaker 1: I do you know? And I think again, a chance
Speaker 1: here for some of these guys. I mean, Zindejas has
Speaker 1: vast guys, has at least done enough to convince me
Speaker 1: that he belongs in the discussion for the national team.
Speaker 1: Zendejas has been he needs to start proving himself. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not enough to just be friends with Christian Poliitic.
Speaker 1: You do need to start actually performing on the field
Speaker 1: in order for us to uh trust you.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is your what? What is your vibe? Since
Speaker 2: this is a ViBe's based economy, with your double with
Speaker 2: your double Jeopardy game, your double points match as you
Speaker 2: as you have it registered here in trying to move
Speaker 2: up the standings in conky CAF, what is your vibe
Speaker 2: heading into this match with Mexico.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think the unfortunate reality is h US
Speaker 1: is at a great disadvantage and facing the possibility of
Speaker 1: losing to Mexico for the first time and oh a
Speaker 1: long time since twenty nineteen. I think. So you don't
Speaker 1: love that, right, but you also understand all the circumstances
Speaker 1: around it. So if you lose, if you go down
Speaker 1: to Mexico and you lose, it's not great, right, but
Speaker 1: you also have a chance to at least get a draw.
Speaker 1: Mexico is not a very good team. They're you know,
Speaker 1: they had a very bad last match against a club
Speaker 1: team that again you know was not roy And you
Speaker 1: know now is the time where again you have a
Speaker 1: new head coach, so you already have the pressure of
Speaker 1: making yourself known to this new coach, earning that trust
Speaker 1: of the new coach, and showing that you belong here.
Speaker 1: On top of that, you have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who wouldn't normally be getting off opportunities to start, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Tanner Testament, John Lucapusio are not close
Speaker 1: to starting pecking order in this national team. But with
Speaker 1: all the injuries and players who had to go home,
Speaker 1: now they're looking at being starters and how do they
Speaker 1: show up in a game that means a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the number one rivalry in North America
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons, and you know we have
Speaker 1: not played. We don't play on the road often in friendlies.
Speaker 1: We know this. And now you get a chance to
Speaker 1: play in Mexico in a friendly for the first time
Speaker 1: in twelve years.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Last time you did it, you won, So if you
Speaker 1: want to continue to be part of history. And by
Speaker 1: the way, that that time that we went down there
Speaker 1: and won was not with a strong eleven I are
Speaker 1: a strong squad either. I mean brecksha was probably the
Speaker 1: best player on the team that that that squad, which
Speaker 1: you know, Breckshay greatest player of all time I think
Speaker 1: in USA are But you know, it's it definitely is.
Speaker 1: It's a good chance to prove that you belong, that
Speaker 1: you have what it takes to be part of the
Speaker 1: men's national team because part of being the men a
Speaker 1: part of being a part of the men's national team
Speaker 1: at this point in time is beating Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, no, that is that is not open for
Speaker 2: a debate. No, I'm right there with beat Mexico. You know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got you gotta beat Mexico, all right, So, uh,
Speaker 2: thoughts plans all that kind of stuff, obviously with the
Speaker 2: match on Tuesday, sir, uh, let's see. So what are
Speaker 2: you up to Thursday morning?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be in the office working, that's I know.
Speaker 1: But Friday am at home.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then do you want to you want to
Speaker 2: come back on, you want to bet lead off on
Speaker 2: Friday ago, so we can put a bow on everything,
Speaker 2: all right, So this is what we call live scheduling.
Speaker 2: So Bart is going to look at Mexico, and so
Speaker 2: Bart's gonna come on and bet lead off on Friday morning,
Speaker 2: leading into Beyond Goals at nine thirty, and we'll discuss
Speaker 2: the vibes based economy that is attached to the US
Speaker 2: men's national team. Where you have drawn very well drawn
Speaker 2: photos pictures of Marcia Pochatina with the word believe underneath it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well look that's that's that's cool, right, Like I
Speaker 1: mean that I think that speaks to the vibes around
Speaker 1: the team too. Is there's just a lot of belief
Speaker 1: now that we have a coach that we believe.
Speaker 2: In vibes based economy.
Speaker 1: That's what is a vibe based economy. And that's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: the vibes are high in the US, they're not high
Speaker 1: for Mexico. Right, those vibes go get a win down
Speaker 1: in Mexico. And if you do that, John, you're looking
Speaker 1: at leaping Canada in the CONCACAPS. I know we talked
Speaker 1: about this last week. If you get two wins this
Speaker 1: friendly window, you're for leaping Canada like got to especially
Speaker 1: if you went in Mexico for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing is John, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have talked about it, but real Quick Nations
Speaker 1: League ground up if you will let me. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you talked about CONCA Caffeations League. Uh, interesting
Speaker 1: matchups coming up on Tuesday. Right, League A, you have
Speaker 1: the two teams that matter because top two teams qualify
Speaker 1: for the the quarterfinals. Yes, League A, Group A Guatemala
Speaker 1: on seven points, Costa Rica after a draw, serenaon on
Speaker 1: five points. You know who play. Those two teams play
Speaker 1: each other on Tuesday. Then in Group B Jamake on
Speaker 1: seven points, Honduras on six points. Those two teams play
Speaker 1: each other on the final match day. So that is
Speaker 1: some exciting stuff in the CONCA Caffeinations League. And those
Speaker 1: teams that finish top top two in the groups make
Speaker 1: the quarterfinals, and we'll be one of the four opponents
Speaker 1: that the US could possibly be paired with whether we're
Speaker 1: ranked two or three who knows.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so that for those of you that are
Speaker 2: the true sickos, you could probably catch all of this
Speaker 2: stuff on paramount plus. We'll get into that you can.
Speaker 2: Yes see, there you go U.
Speaker 1: Costa Rica host Guatemala and Jamaica host Honduras. So the
Speaker 1: favorites do get the host in the final match day.
Speaker 1: Costa Rica obviously with the draw and surn on probably
Speaker 1: not a deal. They do have to beat, you know,
Speaker 1: they do have to win at home against Guatemala to
Speaker 1: win the group, but I think any result pretty much
Speaker 1: guarantees them as a path forward if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: surn I with four points, they would have to I guess,
Speaker 1: so Costa Rica, Yeah, you're in a little trouble there.
Speaker 1: You do have to win at home on the final
Speaker 1: match day to guarantee yourself a spot in the Nations
Speaker 1: and corner finals. Because Surna I'm host Guyana.
Speaker 2: Mm hm Guyanazer one and two. They've given rules and
Speaker 2: three matches.
Speaker 1: So careful there, Costa Rica. Careful there. Talk about his
Speaker 1: program that's kind of spiraled recently.
Speaker 2: Well, But I also think that when Kayler Novice is
Speaker 2: no longer in his mid to late thirties, and he
Speaker 2: is still he still a tremendous keeper. But obviously you
Speaker 2: want to look in other directions when it comes to
Speaker 2: Costa Rica and how you want to stack things as
Speaker 2: you age out in your in your mind. So I
Speaker 2: think that that would be intriguing. Yes, absolutely, Group B
Speaker 2: by the way, Jamaica Honduras and you end up with
Speaker 2: Nicaragua playing French Guyana. So Nicaragua by the way at
Speaker 2: four points. If they win, then they go to seven.
Speaker 2: Jamaica Honduras, Jamaica Honduras.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nikinnawa not out of the not out of it,
Speaker 1: but they do have to.
Speaker 2: Win gets yeah, gots, I got some I got some
Speaker 2: work to do.
Speaker 1: So and then they have to not just win, but
Speaker 1: also hope that like you know, yeah, Jamaica Honduras TI there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then but yeah, Jamaica Honduras tie. Then Nick
Speaker 2: Nicaragua was out on goal difference because right now Honduras
Speaker 2: is at plus four and Nicaragua is at minus one.
Speaker 2: So for the true Sikos, uh, since you mentioned it,
Speaker 2: I'm going to League CE.
Speaker 1: Well where do we go?
Speaker 2: Barbados, Bahamas Us Virgin Islands, believee Anguila Turks and Caicos
Speaker 2: st Kits Andivas Cayman's British Virgin Islands. That's the fun
Speaker 2: part for me.
Speaker 1: Yea Barbados run, but Barbados running it up also Saint
Speaker 1: Kitts and believes running it up good for them. Those
Speaker 1: teams that does matter they get automatic Oh crap, I
Speaker 1: did uh promoted placements to the which notepad is a
Speaker 1: sign uh play in and around, I want to say
Speaker 1: for gold Cup, because we have a playing around, a
Speaker 1: preliminary around, and a group stage for Gold Cup next summer,
Speaker 1: and we still don't even know if it's all sixteen
Speaker 1: CONCACAFF teams. John, that's true.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there will probably be some guests, you know,
Speaker 2: you know probably actually you know what they'll probably do
Speaker 2: is they'll probably have Messi and friends be a guest
Speaker 2: team in concor Caf. Lord, all right, so we will uh,
Speaker 2: we will uh watch your social medias at the soccer
Speaker 2: at soccer for USPO D and at Bartamus Prime nineteen,
Speaker 2: especially on Tuesday with the US playing Mexico.
Speaker 1: Late night, that is.
Speaker 2: At the Estadio a Crone exactly. Uh. And then you'll
Speaker 2: be back to bet lead off on Friday morning to
Speaker 2: talk about all of it in the vibes based economy
Speaker 2: that is concor caff Be well, my friend, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna do refing down here once you clear the decks,
Speaker 2: because we've got yeah, we've got some college stuff to
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 1: And I saw Jason bemoaning college refereeing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's what it is. It is stuff to
Speaker 2: do with that, and we have a couple of incidents
Speaker 2: to back up the thought, and so we want to
Speaker 2: advance the game forward, and so we're sending up this
Speaker 2: flare and proposing an alternative or at least a suggestion
Speaker 2: to help things out.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we always like to provide solutions, not just.
Speaker 2: Yes yes, So we're gonna we're gonna do some solutions
Speaker 2: solving here with reffing down here for this week. Be good,
Speaker 2: my friend, and I know that you'll be listening, so
Speaker 2: feel free to have your comments in the twitch pitch
Speaker 2: with everybody else as we go through reffing down here
Speaker 2: for the remainder The.
Speaker 1: Only one Snight Atlanta United comment today, So I think
Speaker 1: I did all right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I didn't hear it either, brother.
Speaker 2: Don't don't think I didn't know where it was. I
Speaker 2: heard it. I heard it kind of buzz past it.
Speaker 2: I saw what was going on. But yeah, so if
Speaker 2: you if you wish to multitask and actually try and
Speaker 2: work and at the same time listen to what we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about.
Speaker 1: In refroment, my work started blocking Twitch on my on
Speaker 1: our network, so I can watch you on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah well you can, yeah, harder.
Speaker 1: For the They don't like all the comments that I leave.
Speaker 2: Well, but well, then you can also watch on Twitter
Speaker 2: and leave comments.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm not logged into Twitter on my work
Speaker 1: computer either, so.
Speaker 2: That's on YouTube. So that's how I all right, So
Speaker 2: then watch on YouTube and comment there on YouTube. All right,
Speaker 2: We'll see you on Friday.
Speaker 1: Bye, y'all.
Speaker 2: All right, that's Bart