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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news video.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Kyle. I will tell you off

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<v Speaker 2>the top, things are gonna be a little bit different

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<v Speaker 2>over the next couple of days. I am really burnt

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to politics. I'm gonna we're gonna kick

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<v Speaker 2>off the show talking about politics. We are gonna do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the next couple of nights, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you we're getting away from it. Okay, I'm spent,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm burnt. I gotta be honest with you. After the election,

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<v Speaker 2>I have shut off media. I really have, which for

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<v Speaker 2>as a talk show host is probably not the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing to say. So if I if I'm misinformed on something,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you right now. Don't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before the election. I was just swamped with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not because Trump won, That's not it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just burned out on all of it, just

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. And then of course the post doom

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<v Speaker 2>and gloom from the Democrats and from people who voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Kamala Harris is just nauseating to me. Drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>The end of the world is coming. It's the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the world is not coming. It's not coming, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's we're going to be fine. Things didn't go the

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<v Speaker 2>way you wanted them to, and in hindsight, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised. And I'll get to that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But coming up on the show tonight, why women voted

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump? Now? Six seven thirty. If you are a

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<v Speaker 2>woman and you voted for Trump, just give me a

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<v Speaker 2>call right now and tell me why. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to challenge you. I mean, you have every right, but

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<v Speaker 2>forty six percent of women voted for Trump, according to Exopoles.

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<v Speaker 2>We reached out to three women to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>them on the show, and I could not get them

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. So then I went to my buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>John Keller from WBZTV CBS News Boston, political analyst John

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<v Speaker 2>Keller CBOUS News Boston to me, it's still Channel four,

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<v Speaker 2>it's WBZ. I'm sorry, And then political analyst Anthony Russo

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<v Speaker 2>will be joining us to talk about what happened with

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<v Speaker 2>the election and why women voted for Trump as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to Kamma, especially women in their thirties. We thought this

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<v Speaker 2>brat coalition was going to be the difference women sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five plus sixty plus because they were concerned about social security.

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<v Speaker 2>The vice president received their votes, and also when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to minorities too, African Americans Latinos didn't go the

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<v Speaker 2>way the Dems thought. Now you know how I felt,

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<v Speaker 2>because I told you, and I have voted on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the isle. I have voted for Republicans, I

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<v Speaker 2>have voted for Democrats. And when Trump ran in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I called it. You can I'll have to get my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin Rob on the phone because he was there when

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<v Speaker 2>I said it. I said, this guy is going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's got momentum. And he had it again this

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<v Speaker 2>time around, and he won fair and square. He won

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<v Speaker 2>fair and square, there's no need for a recount, and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth and so on. But I didn't vote for

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<v Speaker 2>him because of what happened on January sixth. That really

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<v Speaker 2>bothered me. That really got to me. That was that

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<v Speaker 2>happens in other countries, not here. Then you can make

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<v Speaker 2>the argument, if he wasn't elected, it may have happened again.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he's in office means it might not happen.

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<v Speaker 2>That we might be more secure with these public outre

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<v Speaker 2>who knows it come from. It could come from the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the isle. It could be an angry

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<v Speaker 2>mob of liberals attacking Congress. You don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. But the bottom line is it was the

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<v Speaker 2>lesser of two evils, even when you know, and now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna ask John about this, we shouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's all kinds of rhetoric from the Republican side

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<v Speaker 2>about how it was a landslide victory, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was on all the political Sunday morning shows. Other

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans came on, you know, Stephanopolis, John Carr was on

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<v Speaker 2>you know this week where they meet the press. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans are saying a landslide victory, and it really

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't It was like one percent. I mean when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the popular vote, it was much closer than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But a win is a win is a win. So

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<v Speaker 2>but should we be surprised? I mean, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans do. Trump has been lying ever since he

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<v Speaker 2>ran in twenty sixteen. And it doesn't matter because people

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<v Speaker 2>voted with their pocketbooks. That's what happened. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>shocked at the number of women that voted for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a guy that is on tape.

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<v Speaker 2>He is on tape when he was talking. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember who's the guy. Uh oh, Bob Billy Bush, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Bush, the nephew of George w or grand nephew

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<v Speaker 2>of George Herbert Walker whatever, who was on that Access

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood thing. And he's talking to Trump and the Winnebago

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<v Speaker 2>and the tape is rolling and Trump is talking about

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing a woman's vagina. Of course I'm being kind. He

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<v Speaker 2>used the other term. And the charges that have been

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for paying prostitutes to shut up, sexual abuse,

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<v Speaker 2>sexually attacking women men, those charges have been dropped, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, because they're not going to prosecute a president.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. Women don't care, No one cares, No

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<v Speaker 2>one cares, did not matter, did not incurate the equation. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to be fair, Monica Lewinsky smoking the cigar in the

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<v Speaker 2>oval office, Bill Clinton, what's the diff Well, the diff

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<v Speaker 2>is that it seems like miss Lewinsky, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't sexual assault. We had willing participants, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Trump charges that wasn't. That wasn't necessarily the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But we can't sit there and say on the Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>side of things that past presidents have had a high

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<v Speaker 2>moral ground. I've always said, let's face it, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to power, there is something about men in power

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<v Speaker 2>and the attraction to multiple women. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>been written about, it talked about allegedly obviously with John F. Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King, Donald Trump, Clinton, the big womanizer. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine Ronald Reagan would have dared to treat

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<v Speaker 2>a Nancy because she would have put his scrutaman of vice.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it, and I know it. If I'm Ronald Reagan,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way I am not cheating on Nancy, No

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<v Speaker 2>way in hell. I mean, but the fact that politicians

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<v Speaker 2>cheat on their significant others, we've just accepted it. No

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<v Speaker 2>one cares. They vote, They vote with their pocketbook. Minorities,

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<v Speaker 2>African Americans, Latinos, some people just can't vote for a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>There are women that just can't vote for a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Hillary Clinton should have won. She is so

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<v Speaker 2>who she's She was as qualified as her husband. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant woman, certainly more qualified than Trump. People didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like her, and you know what they looked at Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris as a lightweight, and I get it. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing she came out with was mid level tax breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>middle of coup tax breaks. Right, that was pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 2>But people want jobs, jobs, you know. But here's another

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<v Speaker 2>thing with jobs that I don't get. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is I'm gonna sound like a stupid suburban sob.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a restaurant the other night and four

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<v Speaker 2>or five tables were open, and they said, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>seat you. I said, what we could because we only

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<v Speaker 2>have one waiter. We can't find anybody else to work.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems there are service jobs people don't want them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had a lot of friends when I

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<v Speaker 2>was young. I was always working in radio. And believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>my friends who were waiters and bartenders when I was

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<v Speaker 2>working in radio when I was in my twenties or

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<v Speaker 2>making more money than me because they could make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more on tips than I ever could make a

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<v Speaker 2>minimum wage spinning the disks and the platters of matter.

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<v Speaker 2>But people brought it with their pocketbook. They think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the economy was good when Trump was anough it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, there's some parallelism here, folks. When Clinton was

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<v Speaker 2>in office, the budget was balanced, the economy was great,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was messing around allegedly with a cigar and

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<v Speaker 2>Monica Lewinsky in the Oval office. Trump, the economy's great.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking gibberish about COVID. He never made sense. Once

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<v Speaker 2>the guy gets up on stage and dances for three

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and doesn't say anything, and he talks about grabbing

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<v Speaker 2>a woman's genitals and says that she loves it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>on tape. So this guy's a disgusting pig, just like Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what it's, I mean, stupid. If we

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<v Speaker 2>think we can make a butt buck, we'll put Satan

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<v Speaker 2>in office. Absolutely. Okay. John Keller, who's much smarter than

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on this, is going to join me. Next we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about Trump, the woman, the female vote,

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<v Speaker 2>that all that stuff. Anthony Russo too joined us later

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<v Speaker 2>in the hour. Then we're going to get into some

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots talk and also NFL talking general with Paul Perrilla.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Gresh on frying a turkey at ten o'clock, The

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<v Speaker 2>Gresh Monster on deep frying a turkey, which scares the

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<v Speaker 2>hell out of me. I've heard too many stories. There

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<v Speaker 2>are too many stories on YouTube that you could see

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<v Speaker 2>or frying a turkey or burn a house down. And

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<v Speaker 2>my man, the freak from the Left Coast, Sam Mettler

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<v Speaker 2>joins us, and he said Trump's gonna win. He knew it,

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<v Speaker 2>he predicted it. We are technically directed by Rob Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>tonight and Lightning LaRosa, Marita LaRosa doing a great job

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<v Speaker 2>putting the show together. Tonight, John Keller joins, it's next

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<v Speaker 2>on WBC's Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Danner's the week off Gary Tank. We filling it for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan right tonight and tomorrow night Aaron WBC's night Side,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're doing our homework, folks. Yes, we are doing

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of politics and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the fun stuff. No heavy lifting this week,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I say. John Keller is the man. I've

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<v Speaker 2>known him for a long time since we worked at

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<v Speaker 2>the TV station with a frog on the logo and

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<v Speaker 2>now political analyst John Keller joins us from CBS. John,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks are coming on. I just want to and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say this. We tried to get women on.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to get three political analysts. Who are women

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this? And I couldn't do it. They

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<v Speaker 2>weren't available, they didn't want to talk to me. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact John, that women turned out for Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>How surprised are you?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm the closest thing a woman you could get. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of grim, Gary. Yeah, you know women turned

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<v Speaker 3>out for Trump. Why wouldn't they because all women care

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<v Speaker 3>about his abortion rights?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true, and and you know historically that that

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't necessarily been true. Yes, it's an important issue for

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<v Speaker 3>many women, But women in Massachusetts and elsewhere are driven

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<v Speaker 3>by James Carville's old maxim. Gary. You know, the economy

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<v Speaker 3>too economic pressures, inflation, housing costs, transportation costs, you name it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't surprise me one bit that even here

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<v Speaker 3>in Massachusetts you saw a drift of women. I would

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<v Speaker 3>argue more away from Bikeen than toward Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean, yes, yes, yes, yeah, the lesser

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<v Speaker 3>The incumbent gets the blame for the way things are.

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<v Speaker 3>in a while we're supposedly the bluest state, right, but

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<v Speaker 3>after nine to eleven when Bush was re elected, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of voters will overlook disagreements they might have,

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<v Speaker 3>Clinton in nineteen ninety six, and a lot of them

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<v Speaker 3>did it for Donald Trump this year.

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<v Speaker 2>whence a Republican. Nobody cares, you know, like nobody cares women.

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<v Speaker 2>I have talked to a lot of women who are

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<v Speaker 2>very smart, educated, and going back to Hillary, they did

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<v Speaker 2>not like her. They just didn't like her, but they

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<v Speaker 2>knew she was smart. I mean, she's obviously a rugged woman.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not exactly the most friendly woman in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here we go, Kamala. Now, she's not look to

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<v Speaker 2>women viewed her as a lightweight. What did she stand for?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she just all about the laugh? What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she just hanging out with Oprah?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what I kind of felt people thought

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<v Speaker 3>but she certainly did come across as a typical Paul

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the non answer, right right, right right? The

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<v Speaker 3>ducking the press for a while. Interesting how everybody hates

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<v Speaker 3>the press until a candidate starts ducking them, and then

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<v Speaker 3>everybody wants that candidate to sit down and talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the press. But that's a whole other issue. Look, the

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<v Speaker 3>premise that women are going to vote for a woman

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<v Speaker 3>because she's a woman is definitely not true. Some will,

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<v Speaker 3>some will, of course, but some won't. And some women

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<v Speaker 3>aggressively won't vote for a woman. And you can say

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<v Speaker 3>that about any other ethnic group. This is why identity

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats, right, because it's just not as potent has

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I could tell you I've talked to some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and just because you're nineteen twenty twenty, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're a demic anymore. It doesn't. It does not. Some

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<v Speaker 2>They're thinking with their pocketbook. They all have their own

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<v Speaker 2>stock market accounts, they're all thinking about being self employed.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't they realize that you're not going to have

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly not automatically liberal, right, you know, even in a

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<v Speaker 3>to groups and such since the election. My snappy little

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<v Speaker 3>was to some extent a barstool election. And to those

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<v Speaker 3>that don't know, Barstool Sports is a very popular website

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<v Speaker 3>that caters to young men and some young women, but

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<v Speaker 3>mainly young men, you know, the mid teens up into

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<v Speaker 3>six million regular viewers of that website, and the attitude

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<v Speaker 3>toward politics that prevails on barstool is there are all

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of bombs. Who's going to help me make money?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know you gave the litany pretty well, who's tough,

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<v Speaker 3>who's tough on crime? Right? Tougher? So this is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a red meat eating political demographic and it's very potent,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they were Trump all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember when Barstool was a newspaper and when Portnoy,

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<v Speaker 2>refused to call him and he used to just rip

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<v Speaker 2>me and it would be on a bar, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be on a literally in a barstool, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a newspaper. Was tangwe is a blank hole because I

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<v Speaker 2>said something about the Celtics of the Patriots. Who knows, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I was on the headline of Barstool. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>I tell my son that, Like, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the headline of Barstool before it was a website.

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<v Speaker 2>And boy, I mean Dave Portnoy and you can say

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of there's there's a lot going on there,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, that thing took off just like Rogan. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at Rogan, right, I mean people say Trump, maybe Rogan

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<v Speaker 2>won the election for Trump. Three hundred and thirty million

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<v Speaker 2>people watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know this doesn't lend itself to traditional definitions

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<v Speaker 3>political distinctions like conservative or or reactionary. I mean mean

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And and you know, listen, how how irredeemable is anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who would criticize Gary Tangling that way? I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>I got street credit with my kid when I told

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<v Speaker 2>him that. Still, if I see I go Portne, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe you pull this off. I remember when the

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, same thing with Rogan. I mean Rogan, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Boston guy too. Rogan was a comedian just and

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<v Speaker 3>He still is a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean it's all entertainment. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know something that's it's all entertainment, all of.

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<v Speaker 3>It, right, Well, you know that that's what sells. And listen. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever your opinion of Donald Trump, of his character, of

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<v Speaker 3>anything having to do with him, his confidence, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>there is no denying that he is the most brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>self marketer of our of modern times, no question. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he has made more out of less than any

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<v Speaker 3>become enfotainment and is all about the marketing, then no

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<v Speaker 3>wonder he's achieved such remarkable success. And you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in the NBA, to use the sports analogy here,

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<v Speaker 3>title and that's what the Celtics do better than anybody else, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, that's the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>If it offends some basketball s feats because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>My hero John Havlichek is looking down and shaking his head.

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<v Speaker 2>Always hated the three. Hondo hated the three, just like

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<v Speaker 2>I did a podcast with Bob Ryan today. Still hates

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<v Speaker 2>the three, but it's here to stay. John, have a

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<v Speaker 2>good Thanksgiving. Thank you for coming on. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary. It's great to hear your voice anytime, especially great

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<v Speaker 3>to hear you on night side. You do a great

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<v Speaker 3>job selling in for Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Have it fun. Thanks John, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care sure things by bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, He's the best. John Keller, I worked with him

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<v Speaker 2>a Channel fifty six. Smart guy, bright guy, nails it

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<v Speaker 2>every time. You can catch him on WBZ TV CBS

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<v Speaker 2>News Boston. Anthony Russo is going to join us next.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're gonna get into some NFL talk and just

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<v Speaker 2>do people even care about the patriots? That's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>Rightyle, thanks a lot. I appreciated Gary Tangway for Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Ray tonight. We're doing the homework till nine o'clock. Forty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of women voting for Trump according to exit polls.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talk to my buddy, John Keller. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>things you've ever had for Thanksgiving. Plus our moderate from California,

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<v Speaker 2>join us. Sam Bettler at eleven o'clock. All right, Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Russer was there, Anthony, how are you? Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good? How you doing well?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fine. Thanks. So I'm gonna ask you. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I try to get women on political nis.

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody that knows what they're talking about. I was

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised that forty six percent of women voted for

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<v Speaker 4>Not at all? And I think that again, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>think the Democrats are expecting a sixty forty split on women,

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<v Speaker 4>which would have taken the election, especially considering white suburban women,

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<v Speaker 4>and they just did not get those numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the Democrats are tone deaf. Now, in

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<v Speaker 2>full disclosure, I voted for Harris. I voted Democrats. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole January sixth thing bothered me. Yeah, it really bothered me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I if that didn't happen, I could have seen

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at Kamala Harris going I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but Joe Biden could not run again, could

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<v Speaker 4>But there's I think the reporting on the January sixth

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<v Speaker 4>I was one of them. There's people that had a

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<v Speaker 4>the car. I think that that's way not a huge amount,

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<v Speaker 4>but one or two percent of people started to shift.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of reasons, like Kamala Harris being this

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<v Speaker 4>selection that did people instead of instead of obviously doing

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<v Speaker 4>a democratic process. But I think women started to see

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<v Speaker 4>through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain to detail. What do you say in

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<v Speaker 2>specifically about January sixth, What are you speaking of that

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't as worse as as worse as betrayed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right, if it's a if it's an armed insurrection,

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<v Speaker 4>then then they didn't arrest anybody that had actual fire

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<v Speaker 4>arms on them.

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<v Speaker 2>There was Well yeah, but I mean look, Anthony, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, man, I mean a guard died. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they went they went over barricade.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Wait wait, wait when did a guard die?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait one of the one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>the security people from in the capitol had a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, that's actually completely not true. Not a single

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<v Speaker 4>police officer our guard died that day. Three days later,

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<v Speaker 4>there was somebody that died.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that they had claimed it been hit by

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<v Speaker 4>a fire hydrant. He died of a stroke, which was

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<v Speaker 4>twelfth page in the newspaper a few days later, saying

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<v Speaker 4>that it actually was completely unrelated to.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything January sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't think it was a good day in

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<v Speaker 4>our in our history at all. Like, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>looked very bad. I think all all the different metrics

444
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<v Speaker 4>were were not good. I don't think Trump handled it incorrectly.

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<v Speaker 4>He never told people to riot or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony, he certainly didn't tell him to stand down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well he did it afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was a little late. I mean, come on, come on, Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Well we got in fact, I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted that to happen. I think it was actually

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty big trap that worked really well for the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats for several years. But I got to ask a

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<v Speaker 4>question again. I like to be middle ground. I know

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<v Speaker 4>I was at January sixth. I was there because I

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<v Speaker 4>thought it was a good event to be at, to

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<v Speaker 4>see it firsthand. I think it was important. But as

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that is a newsman or somebody on the radio,

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that even you are still representing a fact

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<v Speaker 4>that didn't happen. There was no guard that died of

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<v Speaker 4>a heart attack that day, the fact he died three.

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<v Speaker 2>He died three days later. So what's the difference A

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<v Speaker 2>guy still died. Come on, people, Anthony, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I don't want to We're going to disagree on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care what you're misrepresenting. Fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Oh, come on with Anthony, please, are you

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<v Speaker 2>are you serious? People went over barricades, they went tramping

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<v Speaker 2>through the halls. You had the vice president that was

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<v Speaker 2>escorted out because you was concerned for his safety. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't justify that. You can't justify that it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was a bad day. I just said it was a

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<v Speaker 4>bad day day and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Worked, and keep Trump did another come on, it was

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<v Speaker 2>an awful day. Yeah, it happens in other countries. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen here.

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<v Speaker 4>So so again, I know we're supposed to be talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the female vote, but when we're talking about details

479
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<v Speaker 4>of a day, you're talking about people, you know, destroying

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<v Speaker 4>the capital. And there was there was. Out of the

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<v Speaker 4>half a million people that were that were in part

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<v Speaker 4>of January sixth, there was one hundred to one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty very bad people. And I will one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>percent agree with you. It was a blemish. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a dark spot on our country, especially the way that

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<v Speaker 4>it looked, the optics, et cetera. So do you realize, though,

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<v Speaker 4>that out of the eight or eight hundred or so

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<v Speaker 4>people that went through the halls, most of them were

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<v Speaker 4>literally just walking around taking pictures, including somebody that I

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<v Speaker 4>knew that was arrested and ended up spending two years

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<v Speaker 4>in a jail for what ended up being a one

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<v Speaker 4>month sentence because he didn't get his due process. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>I do think the details are important when people believe

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<v Speaker 4>that somebody like a guard or a police officer died

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<v Speaker 4>that day. And out of the one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>reports of injuries of police officers, it turns out the

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<v Speaker 4>bulk of them, almost ninety five percent of them were

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<v Speaker 4>part of a smoke inhlation. Based on the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>there was the smoke bombs that went off in the

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<v Speaker 4>police area. These are some of the facts that people

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<v Speaker 4>don't represent correctly. Again, I will agree with you, it

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<v Speaker 4>was a very bad day for the history of this country,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's important to make sure the correct details, not

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<v Speaker 4>the January sixth committee details that were very one sided,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't present the whole pitch for show all the discovery

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<v Speaker 4>that people have seen in the actual court case.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me put it this way, if Trump handled it differently,

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<v Speaker 2>and if January sixth doesn't happen, I might have voted

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<v Speaker 2>for the guy. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, you know he won't always. Let'sten, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get off that. Let's just get off that. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, there are just women. There are just some

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<v Speaker 2>women who will not vote for women.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I'll agree with that, definitely. There's a there is

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<v Speaker 4>a group there. I think my mom would almost fall

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<v Speaker 4>into one of them. And I was raised a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 4>lifelong Democrats. She was a Democrat. She's still very pro choice,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that she speaks for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>women in that fifty five to seventy five age category

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<v Speaker 4>that still don't believe a woman could probably lead the country.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not as a forty two year old male, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't believe that. I think Tulca Gabbard would be an

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly strong president. I think Kamala Harris was the wrong

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<v Speaker 4>one to break the ceiling. Hillary Clinton wrong one to

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<v Speaker 4>break the ceiling. I think the Democrats are out of

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<v Speaker 4>touch with what kind of woman America would be okay

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<v Speaker 4>with leading the country. And I think that was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the big problems. And you're right women women are

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<v Speaker 4>very critical of other women, and I think that Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris was a perfect example of a candidate that did

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<v Speaker 4>not that did not show faith in the female vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree we agree on that and want to I want

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<v Speaker 2>to think further on the Democrats. I think the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and I voted both ways. I mean, if you I'm

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<v Speaker 2>registered as a Democrat, but I voted Republican and I

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<v Speaker 2>could have definitely gone for Trump. If this genuaryis GENUISTIX

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't happened, we won't go down the road again. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to. I want to talk about the Democrats because

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're really in trouble. That's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Russo joins us here on w bz's Night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Garry tang Way for day tonight. Anthony russ is joining

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<v Speaker 2>us here on WBZ Political Analysts. Okay, oh, before before

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<v Speaker 2>I continue, I just saw this today, Donald Trump Junior

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<v Speaker 2>bought thirty nine hundred acres in Maine. Do you see that.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be surprised. He loves the he loves the outdoors.

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<v Speaker 4>Maine's probably one of the most beautiful places I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>been in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I grew up there. It depends. It's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a small town, five thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>in a milltown. But I was shocked thirty nine, what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell are you going to do? Well, actual, they're

554
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<v Speaker 2>gonna it must be inland because they're still going to

555
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<v Speaker 2>use it for timber. But I just found that very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that he thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be a hunting a big hunting property. I

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<v Speaker 4>would bet man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there were also it's definitely not on

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<v Speaker 2>the coast, but it could be a hunting property, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to continue to lease it and use it

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<v Speaker 2>for forestry, yeah, for street situation. Okay, So one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that happened here, you know, you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton. You know I knew a lot of women

565
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<v Speaker 2>that just didn't like her. Kamala Harris, do you think

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats would have had a better chance if Biden

567
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<v Speaker 2>had stepped aside, not run for a second turn like

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<v Speaker 2>he said, and they would have gone with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other candidates, for example, like the governor of Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>or the governor of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I definitely would have been a better chance. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>just real quick on the female thing, I think and

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<v Speaker 4>even though I said Telsey Gabbert, I think the concern

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<v Speaker 4>female is going to have a better shot because it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be harder to turn conservative voters to a female.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you have a female conservative, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>that will start to the Democrats will possibly lean in

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit to that. But to your point in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of if they should have done it earlier, absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>then we would have had a fair race. Then the

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<v Speaker 4>republic they could have continued the speaking points against Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump that were very effective to make the race as

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<v Speaker 4>close as it was. But I think that they they

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<v Speaker 4>they could have chose somebody that actually was popular. They

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<v Speaker 4>could not have quote unquote circumvented democracy by essentially just

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<v Speaker 4>making her their candidate, and that would that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the big points that I think the Republicans were playing on.

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<v Speaker 4>They were playing on obviously the ultra woke ideologies and

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<v Speaker 4>the far leftist transgender movement as part of their speaking points,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think that one of their keys is, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>if you guys are talking about us being a threat

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<v Speaker 4>to democracy, how is it that you circumvented democracy in

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<v Speaker 4>your process. So I think if they had a fair

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<v Speaker 4>affair run at it, I think Shapiro I think would

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<v Speaker 4>have been a really great choice. But for them, I

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<v Speaker 4>think would have made it a little bit more fair.

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<v Speaker 4>The bench for the Democrats isn't as deep as it

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes is, so I you know, Kentucky, either way, that

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<v Speaker 4>would have been a better option, and I do think

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<v Speaker 4>it would have been a much closer race.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Russo here joined this political analyst here on WBC. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so what do you think about some of the selections

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<v Speaker 2>by Trump, for example, Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, first

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<v Speaker 2>female chief of staff, Attorney General Pam Brooks, Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 2>Labor un ambassador strong I mean a strong female presence

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<v Speaker 2>with the Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I believe it's ten or eleven. Which is it

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<v Speaker 4>tenor I can't it's ten or eleven. Is the number

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<v Speaker 4>of females that he selected, which is double that of

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<v Speaker 4>his first administration. There's a little bit more of a

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<v Speaker 4>wide variety. Obviously, they're still gonna look at the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that the racial disparity is not as much as they

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<v Speaker 4>would like as a general populace just looking for the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the dee high numbers to match up. But

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of strong females, he's putting them in positions

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<v Speaker 4>as they've never been before. So I think it bodes

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<v Speaker 4>well for the females that were maybe on the fence

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<v Speaker 4>and ended up voting for Trump and going on, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I hope he does the right thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>think for them, he's proving to them he is doing

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<v Speaker 4>the right thing, and he is going towards strong females,

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<v Speaker 4>not just females because they're female, but females because they're

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<v Speaker 4>strong females that actually can make an impact in the cabinet.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about Kennedy with the Health and

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<v Speaker 2>Services Secretary, mister Nonvaxer, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Based on our j sixth start to the conversation, You're

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<v Speaker 4>probably not gonna like this. I'm a huge RFK fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I he was one of my keys to why I

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<v Speaker 4>was actually excited to vote for Donald Trump this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Is I I've been raised in natural wellness and health

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<v Speaker 4>my whole life. My mom is a chiropractor, graduated thirty

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, and I have always been on the side

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<v Speaker 4>of airing of caution towards big pharma. I think our

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<v Speaker 4>food is the biggest issue. You've got Democrat Corey Booker

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<v Speaker 4>speaking on behalf of RFK and the need to really

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<v Speaker 4>take a deep dive into our food program. The fact

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<v Speaker 4>that we're the most obese country in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that I agree with you on that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to disagree with that at all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but here's the thing. Did you see that, Tana. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you see that picture of everybody on air on Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>plane eating McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's and it looked like RFK Junior was a yeah, RFK,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got huge balls. He's also what he's doing is

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<v Speaker 4>completely alienating his family. That is the establishment of democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>He I mean he is and his I mean his

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<v Speaker 4>wife is deep in Hollywood, and it's like he's doing

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<v Speaker 4>something that will get him completely turned off. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>his police system. You can disagree with the police system,

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<v Speaker 4>but you can't say the sellout in any way, shape

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<v Speaker 4>or He firmly believes this. He went through a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of litigation in cases that it caused him to say, Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think when we say anti vaxxer, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of paints kind of a little bit too

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<v Speaker 4>dark of a picture. I think he wants the accountability

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<v Speaker 4>and informed consent. He wants people to realize there is

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<v Speaker 4>a chance of some harm based on all of the

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<v Speaker 4>litigation that he prosecuted in the eighties, nineties. In early

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand, then it's all based on the same way

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<v Speaker 4>he feels about bad water and the same way he

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<v Speaker 4>feels about things like aluminum and not mercury in vaccines.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's got a belief system that he'll stand by.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he just wants accountability, which would reverse

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<v Speaker 4>what Reagan put into place.

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<v Speaker 3>In the eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants the ability to make sure that vaccines, if

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<v Speaker 4>there is something harmful in them, that they can actually

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<v Speaker 4>be prosecuted, because at this point they're not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got a few minutes here, Anthony, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me everything's flip flopped. The Democrats are the

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<v Speaker 2>establish You get Clooney coming in, you got Oprah coming in,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's saying, well, what the hell do I have

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<v Speaker 2>in common with them? You know? Or jay Z and

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<v Speaker 2>people from all backgrounds are going, I have nothing in

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<v Speaker 2>common with this party.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's even right, And it's even more kind of

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<v Speaker 4>it's even more disgusting when you look at the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that not only do you not have anything in common,

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, it's the establishment, it's the ultra wealthy. On

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<v Speaker 4>top of it, you're now finding out how much these

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<v Speaker 4>people were paid to stand on a stage and Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked. I listen. I was ashamed. I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked and ashamed the production costs, like for

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah to do they had to pay. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>these people aren't doing it for free, right. I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 4>And if something comes out that the Republican some of

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<v Speaker 4>the celebrity, I mean, there wasn't a ton of celebrities,

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<v Speaker 4>but if they were paid, and from every aspect that

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<v Speaker 4>I see and every aspect that they've talked about, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have to pay a celebrity a they were honored

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<v Speaker 4>to come speak, or they're bold enough because again it's

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<v Speaker 4>a huge risk to the career to speak on behalf

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<v Speaker 4>of Donald Trump. So I do think that it's interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to see that not only is it an establishment party,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the big money party. It's the party that is

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<v Speaker 4>you have to pay them to be spokespeople and then

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<v Speaker 4>to mismanage over a billion dollars. I think in retrospect,

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<v Speaker 4>even somebody that is very sounds like very middle ground,

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<v Speaker 4>like you, you probably go, well, we might, we might be

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<v Speaker 4>in better hands at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let me and we have to go. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>like some of my friends. I'm not doing mcgloom, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when somebody said moved to Canada. I go, that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous. It's going to be fine, folks. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the world. It's not the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. That I do believe, Anthony. I really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you coming on.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you. I love this conversation. This is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, you know, next time I'm on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have you on. But it's not the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Like people talking about, oh my god, Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, no, it's going to be fine, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, hell, at my place in life, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably benefit, you know, I mean where just where I am,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably benefit from Trump. So you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the world. It's not it's not that's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna happen, you know. And everybody's talking about my

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<v Speaker 2>friend the people are going to be deported and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, just settle down, just settle down, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the end of the world. You lost an election,

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<v Speaker 2>get over it, all right, Anthony, thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you again later.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, taking here, Anthony Russo Jonas, very very good conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>very good conversation, exchange of ideas. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's got ten eleven females in his cabinet and the

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<v Speaker 2>first sheaf of staff. It's got to be interesting. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>strap In, folks, is going to be a crazy ride.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done my homework. I've talked about politics. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in the next three hours, the NFL frying a turkey,

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<v Speaker 2>and my good friend and the Freak from the Lost

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<v Speaker 2>Coast on everything political and entertainment. Sam Miller coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at eleven o'clock. We're just getting started here on WBZ.