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Speaker 4: Let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 5: Welcome in the six foot two, two hundred and forty

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forty pounder out of currents Utah. We got Jack Kelly,

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former BYU great linebacker.

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Speaker 4: What's up Jack? How are you guys doing? Awesome man

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number one.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations on a great career, great season, great final season

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at BYU, and also like a cherry on top one

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of the best pro Day slash combine performances in BYU

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football history coming in, I think like it may have

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been a top five ross score. It's that relative athletic

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score that combines all of these different elements of the

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Pro Day and combine and compares it to other combine

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scores historically. You have like a top five rating athletically

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all time in BYU football history.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's a cherry on top. Great job.

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Speaker 6: Hey, sure, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: What went into that? Man? Like, how was it that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you've always been a good athlete, but

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tell us a little bit about what went into that

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and all the preparation in order to maximize your athletic ability.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So I moved down to Fort Myers, Florida, and

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you also got to give credit to I have a

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guy out here in Salt Lake named Total Athlete Training,

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and then all the strength coaches at BYU just helping

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me preserve and get better throughout the seasons, the off seasons,

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and then when I got down to Fort Myers, it

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was kind of just got to really refine the little

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details and put in the work, stay disciplined on your

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meal plan, do all the little things, and so it's

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really just a testament to all the coaches I've had

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and setting the right example for me coming up through this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what were you most happy about with your combine

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performance pro day performance?

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Speaker 6: I think my biggest thing was the position drills. I

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think just showing the scouts that I can move. Some

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of them thought I was a little stiff previously, so

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that was a big emphasis offseason. Was just showing that

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I'm fluid and I can drop, I can pass rush,

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just showing a little bit of it all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like you've made some doubters into believers.

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I felt like with your performance in the combine as

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well as the field drill, I feel like you elevated

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your draft status a bit.

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Speaker 4: Have you gotten that feedback as.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah, still a little early to tell.

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and showed what I wanted to show, so hopefully that

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improved my draft stock. But at the end of the day,

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it's kind of hard to know. You don't really know

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what teams need or want until draft day comes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's awesome to watch the progress. Right, Like

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from where you were coming out in high school, underrated,

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under recruited, You go to Weber, you end up at BYU.

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highest of levels at that time when you were coming

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out of high school? What was the mindset like when

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you came out of high school ended up at Weber.

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Speaker 4: Was it a little bit of a.

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Speaker 5: Kind of an eye opening experience when you got to

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BYU and you were as dominant as you were even

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at all these other levels that you had played at.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it really just comes down to like betting

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on yourself and trusting in your work in preparation. So

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it wasn't doubt. It was always I felt like I

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could play at this level. So I was like working

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as hard as I could do and all the extra stuff,

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just trying to do what I knew I needed to

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do in order to be successful. So I was kind

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of my mindset going into Weavers, like, I'm grateful I

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get to play college football. A lot of people don't

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get to get this opportunity, so I'm just gonna take

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full advantage of it. I'm gonna work hard. Listening to

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my coaches, and I'm grateful for the journey that I

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have had no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: What would you say is your your your most memorable

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moment as a BYU Cougar Jack, when you reflect on

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your career at b YU, what are some of the

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memorable moments or the most memorable moment that you had.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's really too many to count or the list,

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but one super memorable moment I guess it'd be two

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would be Utah the Utah game both years. I mean

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that first game getting back to Provo and just seeing

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all the fans and everyone being there, and then this

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year as well, just having that in Provo. I think

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good game, good competition. So I think those two games

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Speaker 5: Big games in big moments for you and one of

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the things that I actually was most impressed by. And

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I think this problem is going to help your NFL

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career as well. You suffered an injury this year, an

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upper trimity injury. You rehabed it, got back on the

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field of play, you played through injuries, had surgery obviously

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at the end of the year, I think that that

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show's kind of great in fortitude and the toughness that

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NFL teams are looking for.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. I mean it was really just sacrificing

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for my brothers out there. Like I knew, I wanted

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to be out there with them, fighting, competing. Everyone on

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the team is fighting through some sort of injury, whether

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it's little or dig So it was really just wanting

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to do it for them and just a brotherhood that

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we had that made me want to go out there

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and try to play to the best of my ability,

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to contribute as much as I could, and then just

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to be out there fighting. Like you you don't want

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to miss those opportunities out there with your brothers. You

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only get so limited amount of them, so just every

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opportunity I try to take full advantage.

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Speaker 5: Of Jack Kelly former b YU great talking some ball

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here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network. What was the

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experience like at the combine? It always feels like it's rushed.

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you mentally, emotionally, and then obviously then do the physical

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component to it. Cortisol levels are high, you know, and

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it's almost like it feels like they're like trying to

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dehydrate you in things before you get out there, trying

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to like lessen your athletic potential.

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Speaker 4: Give us a little breakdown of what happened there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's definitely like a quick trip kind of

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like you mentioned, you kind of fly in, do all

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your medicals, do what they need to see, and then

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they're going to keep you up with meetings, doing team interviews,

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stuff like that. Go to the hospital, make sure everything's

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checked out from head to toe, get all the teams

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what they need to see. I mean, yeah, you're super

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busy pretty much the whole entire day, so you're getting

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back to your room pretty late, so you're trying to

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just fit in water meals wherever you can. And then

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obviously the sleep component, they definitely are trying to test you.

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out a little later, gonna get you up a little earlier.

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the little things like eating and sleeping and then trying

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to get your training into just finding little segments of

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the day where you had a little break, maybe an

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hour break where you just go get that training segment

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in real quick and then go back to meetings or

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whatever was planned for that day.

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Speaker 5: What was the weirdest questions that you were asked during

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Speaker 6: You know, I've heard a lot of stories about people

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getting asked weird questions, but I didn't get asked anything

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that was like out of the norm. So I was

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grateful for that based on some of the stories I've heard,

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and like just some of the like scouts or Coast

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or whatever it may be trying to get like a

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little funny detail out of you or something like that.

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Speaker 5: There was a number of guys that got the invite

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to the combine. Obviously, Chase Roberts got the invite. I

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believe Garrison Grimes went out there, Wilf Farron, and so

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Speaker 4: See all those guys there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of felt like there was a few

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other guys that should have maybe merited an invite. I

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thought Timmer Waald, you know, a big twelve All Conference player,

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he tested out extremely well at his PRODA. I thought

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he could have maybe got that invite as well. Your

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thoughts on that, like the threshold of what merits an

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invite and what doesn't and who if your teammates, did

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Speaker 4: Maybe got shafted in that regard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't necessarily knows what goes into that getting

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the invite process. I mean, I definitely think there's more

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of the guys that should have. Pretty much everyone at

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pro Day had a great protay, so if they would

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have been at the Combine, they would have tested phenomenally well.

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They all had great seasons. But at the end of

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the day, all they need is a shot. All of

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us need is just one shot. So Combine obviously helps

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a little bit, but the numbers that they put up

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at the pro Day is definitely all that they needed

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to show. All of them went through position drills really well.

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So I'm super happy and I love the way they

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attack the process and I'm really hoping that everyone gets

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a shot, and I think they'll all strive in the

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opportunity that they do get.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a couple of like underrated guys I

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feel like that are coming out in this class.

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Speaker 4: I think Tannel Wall is one of them.

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Speaker 5: I think Austin Leousa is also an underrated guy. You

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had to go against Austin a lot I think as

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a linebacker, either coming off the edge or going up

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the middle of what stands out to you about Austin

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. Him and Way and I think have

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great opportunities ahead of them. Just their physicality, the smart

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the IQ part of the game that they do have,

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just being able to understand defenses, read defenses, call blitzes out,

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like if we started creeping too early, they would call

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those out. So they just have high IQ and that's

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really what translates well to the NFL. They already got

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the physical aspect, they just tested well, showed the teams

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what they needed to see, and now it's just really

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showing the teams the IQ side of the thing, which

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they did on film. But then once they get in

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those meeting rooms with those teams, they're definitely gonna be

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able to show and I think those are going to

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be huge positive plus sides for them.

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Speaker 5: Jack Kelly, former BYU, great linebacker here on Utah's ESPN

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by some good coaches down there at BYU, and they

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got a good thing going right now. Two consecutive seasons

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of double digit wins eleven and two and twelve and two.

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For those that are evaluating going to BYU right now,

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what's the pitch right to get them in BYU Blue

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and get coached up by some of these coaches and

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be a part of a unique and singular locker room.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean just the culture that Kilani has, it's

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a winning culture. We look at the past two years

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and what they're building, it's just going to continue to

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grow and develop into something bigger and better. I think

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the guys that they brought in this year, the guys

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returning from last year, I think they're gonna have an

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even better season than the year we just had. So

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I think it's just going to be a continuous winning

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program that's just going to continue to get better, especially

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under all the coaching staff that they have up there.

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They have the right mindset, the football IQ. They can

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develop you the way you need to be developed, and

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winning at the end of the day is the best

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thing in football, and that's what they do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, b Yu's moving in a

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unique direction right now. It's becoming like they talk about

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the glory days of like the eighties and nineties. I

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feel like these are the new glory days for BYU

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since twenty to twenty, a lot of double digit wins,

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a lot of NFL talent speak to what makes Kilane's

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culture so special.

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Speaker 6: I think just the way he allows the players to

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run things, He allows play it to be a player

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led team, which helps for us building that brotherhood and

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that bond that we have with each other. I mean,

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he's gonna step in and yell when he needs so,

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he's gonna what a head coach needs to do, but

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he's he's allowing the players to control it. To make

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sure we're pushing the tempo, make sure we're all holding

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each other accountable. And I think at the end of

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the day, if you're able to compete at a high

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level with your brothers and you, you guys are the

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ones leading each other, that's the teams that are going

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to be successful.

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Speaker 4: Jack, what's next for you? What what goals do you have?

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Speaker 5: What's the next I guess weeks and months look like

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for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just going to continue to be training, try to

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get better in every way that I can, get in shape,

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continue to do football work on the field, and then

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just kind of play the waiting game. Hopefully I get

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that opportunity and then try to attack it and be

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as best as I can.

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Speaker 4: So, where you're training at right now and who you're

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training with.

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Speaker 6: I'm training at Total Athlete Training and the guy's name

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is Christian Sandibal.

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Speaker 5: What stood out to you about I mean, look, you

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had some high level training at BYU, Skyler Maine, Ryan Phillis,

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Colby Class and all those guys.

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Speaker 4: They do fantastic work.

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Speaker 5: What has stood out to you about the training that

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you've received after BYU.

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Speaker 6: It's all very similar to what they did, actually, so

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it's all positive things. It just shows and really allows

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me to understand the level of knowledge that they have

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at the BYU that they're all doing the right things.

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They're building guys the right way, they're allowing us to

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grow in the ways that we need to. So I

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think it's all very similar. And nothing has been really

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like where I'm shocked that we didn't do that before.

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Everything has been what we did at BYU, what we

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did for injury prevention, injury rehabs. So it's all been

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very similar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cool to see that BYU over the last

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three years, three or four years has implemented some of

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the highest level training, sports science, nutrition combination, and I

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imagine like you.

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Speaker 4: Reaped a lot of those rewards from.

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Speaker 5: A body composition standpoint and athleticism standpoint. Like what stood

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out to you about that development process over the last

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few years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just the things that you didn't really know and

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you're like, is this gonna work? You just trust them

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and then ends up working like way more than any

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other movement or any other meal plan, any other injury

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prevention rehab. And then you just really look back and like, Okay,

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I can trust these guys with everything with my body,

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and then you go to them for everything. You get

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a little nick and you're like, just go to them,

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and it feels better within two days. So it's really

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just them putting together a program and then the players

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trusting and believing in it, and then following everything that

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they say. If they say, oh, we need to get

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you a little more mobility here, you're gonna do it

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because you know they have your best interests in mine.

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Speaker 5: Jack Kelly former BYU great talking some Cougar football, Jack,

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you know this roster better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who can fill your shoes? Bro?

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Speaker 5: I mean those are big shoes to fill. I call

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you the Juggernaut dude. You're like that X Man, Juggernaut dude,

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just running around Jack Kelly, the Juggernaut. If you haven't

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gotten the intellectual property up and running yet with shirts

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and paraphernalia, all this stuff, you need to because you

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are the Juggernaut, my friend. But who's gonna fill the

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shoes of the juggernaut man?

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of guys that our linebacker

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room is beat. I mean, obviously they got Ka Luave there,

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Jake Clifton, who I've heard they've both been playing really

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well in springball, Miles Halls, y'a l a a Micah.

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I mean there's that was the deepest linebacker room I've

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ever seen or like looked at, and every one of

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them can play. So I have no worries in mind

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that someone's gonna step into that role and excel at

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a high level, just based off of the work that

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they put in, the extra work. I'm always staying ready,

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always getting better, and yeah, it's definitely gonna be easy.

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Not I don't I don't know how to say this,

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but it's to be someone that's gonna fill it and

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they're gonna excel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. Man. Well, like who's the pass

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rusher though?

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Speaker 5: I mean, see you you were divers in your skill

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set when you could be a second level defense defender

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Philly A Gaps obviously be involved in that blitz game

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that gets linear. I think you demolished a number of

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running backs along your way that tried to, you know,

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pass pro on you. And then you could also be

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lined up as a stand up outside edge guy in

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the and A seven technique. I wouldn't be surprised if

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you could have employed a little five tech too, taken

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on some pulling guards, et cetera. But you know, being

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able to win off the edge in pass rushing situation.

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Speaker 4: Who fits that mold the mass? Do you think?

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good question. I mean Cayle Seely, I

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think he's been playing some backer and he's kind of

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doing that where he played DM last year, and I

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think he's going to be a phenomenal player, so he

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could definitely fill into that role. I mean, all those

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linebackers they do that I mentioned, they work with coach

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Chad every day, so we're all doing the same drills

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getting better at that. I think that's a huge test

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meant to Coach Chad and his ability to develop the

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needs that the team, that the team needs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no one talks enough about Chad K. We're all

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worried that, you know. You know, look, you were a

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j Hill guy. You got recruited, you got developed by

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Jay Hill. His scheme came over from Weaver to b

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Y you, et cetera. I want to talk about Jay here,

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but like, I don't know if we talk enough about

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Chad K and the the the impact that he's had

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at b YU quietly behind the scenes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, for sure, he's definitely a behind the scenes

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type of guy. All though the pass rush work that

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we did every day was second to none. I mean

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the film work that he would do. With the film study,

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he'd come into our meeting rooms and give us a

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breakdown on the O line we're playing, what moves are

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going to work. So it's really just that extra step

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that we needed, just understanding, just adding that little extra

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detail we needed going into game day. Rather than just

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studying like the run game in pass game, we'd also

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study past sets where they're going to shoot their hands.

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So I think Coach Chad is a definitely an underrated

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part of the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, love that that breakdown.

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Speaker 5: Look, we lost Jay, we lost Gennaro, lost gav all

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big losses. Uh, what makes you optimistic that we can

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that we've filled we got we've got those shoes filled

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as well, and we can, Uh, we can be as

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effective as productive defensively as we were even last year

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as K Pop at the Helm. I think Lewis Walker's

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your your quarnerbacks coach obviously Tomorrow Warren, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: But some big shoes to feel.

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Speaker 6: No doubt, Yeah, for sure, And that's just where he trust. Kilane.

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He knows what he's doing, He's got the right guys,

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he knows he needs to hire. Putting coach h K

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Pop there, he's been in this defense, he knows it,

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he understands it. He's gonna be just as successful. All

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the defensive minds that I was around all season, they're

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all super smart, they all know what they're talking about.

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And then Kilane he knows what he's doing, he knows

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who the guys he needs, what kind of culture he

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needs those guys to be. And all the coaches he's

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hired ever one said they've loved. So definitely think that

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This offseason has been a positive and they did everything

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they needed to do to have another successful season.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know what Gary Anderson's doing

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there is an analyst. How did you describe Gary Anderson

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his roll down there in prov over the last year

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or so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's definitely one of the smartest football minds you

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will be around. I mean, he's been doing it for

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a while. He knows what he's talking about. He knows

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He's just one of those guys that you can go

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up to and ask about anything. He's going to be

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there for you. He's going to help you with football.

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He's going to show up for you if you want

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some extra meetings. He's just a football guy that loves

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ball and he wants the best out of each and

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every one of the athletes that is there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel optimistic. How would you describe Kelly Papinga too.

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I mean, he you've worked with him, You've seen what

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he's done. We've done with the special teams units in

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the linebacker edge room as well. How would you describe

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Kate pop and how Why do you think he can

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be a great DC at BYU.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's going to be great because he's passionate.

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He loves the game of football. I mean, even when

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he was coaching special teams last year, you could feel

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the passion in it. Where a lot of people think

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special teams isn't that important, he really emphasized the fact

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that special teams can win games. And just seeing the

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passion he has for the game, the mind he has.

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so he's got the knowledge that's needed to be successful.

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And he's just there for the guys. Everyone that kind

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of like coach Gary Anderson that I talked about, he's

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someone you can go up to, you can trust, and

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he's going to get the job done.

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Speaker 5: Jack Kelly, Ladies and gentlemen, former b y you great

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talking some ball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.

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Speaker 4: Who should be what you fans be aware of?

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Speaker 5: Maybe like that that is on the come up into

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twenty twenty six season. Newcomers, Guys that were, you know,

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maybe on the bench last year, Like who should be

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YU fans keep an eye out for offensively or defensively

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special teams wise this next season.

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Speaker 6: Oh, there might be too many to name. There's a

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lot of guys from last year that I thought were

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ballers that may might not have got the playing time

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or the attention they needed, and even newcomers. I've heard

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a lot of the newcomers, whether that's transfers or freshmen

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that have been balling. So I mean, I can't really

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put a finger on a couple because there's too many,

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but I think coover fans should be super excited about

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what's coming.

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Speaker 4: Love that.

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, we appreciate you hopping on Jack to give

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us an update on everything. I'm sure you've received a

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ton of interest post pro Day and post NFL combine.

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What is that feedback from the NFL scouts and also

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from your agent?

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Speaker 4: What feedback have you received during the process.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right now, it's not a whole lot of feedback.

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It's more of just like getting on calls, understanding who

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you are more as a person, like seeing how well

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you know yourself, Like what are your strengths, what are

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your weaknesses. So it's kind of just understanding more of

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who we are at this point. So it's been a

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lot of positive conversations. Just trying to continue to show

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my ability to drop into coverage and be a versatile player,

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and that's something that I've been able to show through

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workouts or film and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: Love it, Jack, Well, can't wait to see you ball

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out in the NFL. Do you have an ideal location

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at a deal scheme you want to be in going forward?

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Speaker 6: No, any opportunity I get, I'm going to be super

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bust and happy and I won't take event or won't

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take for granted any any city I get to go

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play for.

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Speaker 5: We'll tell you this much, BYU's linebacker. You look at

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all the great linebackers that have gone on to the NFL,

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two great careers over the last twenty or so years.

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Twenty or so years, it's been awesome to watch and

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you're part of that legacy now as one of the

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best linebackers and be what you football history, Jack Kelly.

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We salute you man, Thanks for coming on. And yeah,

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had you heard the nickname the Juggernaut or is that

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the first time?

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Speaker 6: That was the first time I ever heard that?

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Speaker 5: Actually, man, shoot, I'm send you my my my mockup

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of you as the Juggernaut once we get off the air. So,

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I I mean, come on, like the way you run

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and you got the neck role too, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, it fits, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it does. I'm definitely gonna see that mock up.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'll send it over to your brother, Big Cougar.

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Order you man, Thanks for joining us, Thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 6: Jack, Yes, sir, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: There you go. That's Jack the Juggernaut Kelly.

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Speaker 5: He can run with the best of them, great coverage,

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as you know, he's a great pass rusher. He's got

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a bright future in the NFL. No IF's hands or

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Little Sound by Jake Retsch left, commenting on quarterback bear Bachmeyer.

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Speaker 4: He hopped onto the podcast Beyond the Game.

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Speaker 5: Uh with with a former Cougar Mike Lacy and uh,

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you know, I think this is interesting.

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Speaker 4: Jake's seen and.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get to it.

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Speaker 5: Jack Retzlock commenting on bear Bachmeyer on Beyond the Game

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podcast with Mike Lacy.

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Speaker 9: Interesting, you know the guy who came in and had

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to replace you, Bear Bachmeyer.

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Speaker 8: It's obvious that you have.

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Speaker 9: A good relationship with him too, as well as most

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of the rep I mean probably every single one of

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the staff and the players.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and my connection to BUYU is strong. It is

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rooted deep. I was in Provo this past weekend.

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Speaker 11: It was the first time I've actually been back there

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since July twenty second when I left, and I went

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and saw a Rod up in the solid area. I

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was up there for the hockey game, and so I

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went and hung out with him a little bit. And

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just like my rooster, there will be deep for a

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long time, especially with that staff and especially with those players. Man,

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I got a lot of brothers over there, who I

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wish I could go hang out all of them all

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at once again.

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Speaker 10: But man, those are my guys. Saw them, you know.

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Bear Bear came in the summer and so like me

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and Barrel, only got a little bit of time together.

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But man, that we got.

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Speaker 11: I I was I've been on the phone with him

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a couple times before he even got to BYU. I

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talked to him a bunch. He's asked him questions about

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Yu I'm answering, and I was excited. He's a southern

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California kid. I think my high school still owns his

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high school, so I'll keep hanging that over his head.

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But now a great kid. Man, It's super fun. Especially

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when he first got there. Dude, he was like just

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a sponge, just a kid who just wanted to learn

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everything as fast as he could. Like he was already

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meeting with Matt to get the offense down Matt Mitchell,

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and he would come out to the field doing drills

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and dude like just talking, talking my ear off, like

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trying to learn every little edge and everything that I

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play with. He's trying to learn every single detail of it.

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And I loved it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 11: It was great to see a young kid like that

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come in and be like hyper talented like he is,

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but then so eager to like learn and grow and

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get that edge.

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Speaker 10: And I got a lot of respect for Bear Man.

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Speaker 11: And he came in just super like I said, humble

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but hungry at the same time, ready to work. And

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those are the kids that you love to just watch grow.

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And for me, it's been such a blast to talk

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to the people around the building and you know, talk

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to I texted Bear a couple times ro out the season,

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but I wish I got tax from Bora, but turns

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out we both had kind of something.

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Speaker 10: To do throughout those few months.

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Speaker 11: But so, but yeah, I'm too proud of that guy man,

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and hopefully I'll be able to run into him maybe

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at b YU sometime soon if I went my head

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back up that way. But I'm excited to see what

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he does in this next year.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 11: For me, having a first year of a starter under

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my belt was huge, but then I was super excited

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about the next year after that, which ended up being

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his freshman year. So I'm excited for him to move

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into a sophomore season. Another year in that offense makes

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a big difference, and he's just gonna ball out again

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this hump.

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Speaker 10: I'm pumped for him.

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Speaker 4: Now. Love it.

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Speaker 5: Man, there's his thoughts. This is gonna be Ronnie. You've

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listened to this multiple times. Now, what do you make

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of it? Your takeaways?

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Speaker 12: I think the first thing that sticks out to me

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is and this is good. I hope this doesn't make

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people have said this cougar bite is more about jakein

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is about Bear.

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Speaker 8: That's to take away.

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Speaker 12: I know you chuckle because you probably agree in some

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sense of just look right and it looks sometimes, you know,

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people make mistakes, Things don't happen right. I know that

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the case and everything and what transpired after and how

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I would all you know, went about. But when Jake

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showed back up, you just said it ay Rod at

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a hockey game. Then I was at practice that day,

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you know, and I told you said, hey, Jake said, practice,

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I posted a picture, right. I talked to you like,

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like's about it. Hey, I'm this picture is gonna be posted.

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He's at practices us just doing interviews. Practice is over,

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and there's a great relationship still with Bearing his teammate.

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Excuse me, Jake and his teammate's like he dabbed up

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Trayson Boorgay.

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Speaker 8: I interviewed Tracey and Dre said, that's my guy.

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Speaker 12: You know, they lived together half like that didn't go away,

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you know, And whoever had mentored Jake on the way

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out when the situation occurred, it's easy to burn bridges

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and I'm gonna go down that route. It easy when

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things don't go your way, being to point the finger

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to say, well, I'm being treated unfairly.

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Speaker 8: It's not right. You can easily go that way.

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Speaker 12: But he kept a very kind of what you've you know,

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mentored me in our private conversations. Or just be positive,

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positive energy, positive people breath, you know, positive convictions. Things happen,

695
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,440
you know they've come into your life. You speak things

696
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into fruition and when you're around negativity, when you're around

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00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,440
a complacency, it doesn't necessarily have the best form. And

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it looks, you know, for misery those things, and Jake

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did the right thing. And because you know, he kept

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those relationships and here and that look him and Bear

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both you know southern California. Is that connection right. I

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didn't know that Jake and Bear had a chance to

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talk with you Bear got here. I didn't think Jake

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had that time to but he did. And I just

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think it's great to see again former Cougars. And I'm

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gonna be honest, I think this is a guy that's

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gonna be back on BOU campus if Jake is able

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to go to the NFL and play or wherever he

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goes with his career. He's been welcoming back with BOU

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with open arms, and I welcome him back and I

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invite everyone to and grateful for his path and those

712
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:45,960
relationships of BYU didn't die.

713
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,759
Speaker 8: Those are his boys.

714
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,119
Speaker 12: You just heard from him. He could hang out with

715
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,480
everybody at once. So this is not me speaking, This

716
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,599
is just me commenting on Jake Reht's laugh and his

717
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,519
time at BYU. And again, Jake might maybe have come

718
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,839
into b YU maybe a little transact actually not knowing,

719
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,839
but definitely by the time he left, I think he

720
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,920
was truly changing transformation on again. Uh to to poke

721
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,680
maybe at the d m P A j thing. DMP's

722
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,319
dad say, it's not about where you started, it's where

723
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,960
you finished. And I think where Jake finished. People might

724
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,519
not look at it, but to me, when you're back

725
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,559
on campus, when you're throwing at pro Day, when you're

726
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,880
talking to your former teammates and coaching, it seems all love.

727
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:20,799
Speaker 8: I think that's what it's really about.

728
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,079
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing.

729
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,559
Speaker 5: Uh seeing him back at b y U H that's

730
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,839
your Cougar byte and it was brought to you by

731
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Oh we got what we got? Mash all right, what's

732
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,039
the mos uh Star wide receivers recent decision.

733
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:41,359
Speaker 4: Making on uh? And Uh, so is this Kyler Kyler Casper?

734
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,119
What is it? What do we got? Or is this

735
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,599
is this Pook? And Akupa comments.

736
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: Yes this is Pook and Nukula comments yes, Okay, what

737
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,119
are we talking about here?

738
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:49,759
Speaker 4: Uh?

739
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 12: The conversation has started to brew. This is on a

740
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,240
three and out with John Middelkoff. If the if the

741
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,960
rams are afraid, you know, to you know, put a

742
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,839
pause on or to pay Pooka Nakua. Uh, because Jack

743
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,799
and Smith and Jacobiban, I think he's got forty two

744
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:10,039
point one five. I think you know it's Pooka's probably

745
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,119
somewhere a little bit above that it with forty two

746
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,800
point five or forty three. So these are some comments

747
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,199
regarding the situation if the Rams.

748
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's he's projecting yet the Rams, because of

749
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,800
the delay, there has not been a signing, they're afraid

750
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,400
to pay Pooka.

751
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, afraid because of some of his.

752
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: Off off the field shenanigans that he's been involved in

753
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,719
over the last year and even last year or two.

754
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: So okay, so three and outs.

755
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 5: John Middelkoff discussing whether or not the Rams are a

756
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,360
little bit afraid of paying Pooka Nakula.

757
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 7: Pookin Nakula's decision making over the course of the last

758
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,239
six to eight months feels it feels like a cage

759
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,519
cat got out of Provo and just doesn't know what

760
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,679
to do with himself. Became really famous and it's not

761
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,079
handling it well. One headlines like listen, you had nothing

762
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:54,760
to do with it, A great guy. Like there's been

763
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,119
enough smoke now it's like bro.

764
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:59,639
Speaker 4: Figure, all right, there you go. Look, I don't know.

765
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,760
He is an entertainer, There's no doubt about it.

766
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: And in a traditional sense. I don't think he's abided

767
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:16,039
by the the National Football League's uh standard of comportment,

768
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:18,960
nor for the Los Angeles Rams.

769
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: But he is in Hollywood, and Hollywood.

770
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: Seems to bring a whole lot of drama to people's lives,

771
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:30,840
good and bad. You know what's the old adage about, uh,

772
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,239
you know, fame and attention. Uh, you know, it slips

773
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,320
my mind right now, but I guess there's uh, there's

774
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,800
a there's there's a lot that comes with it, right

775
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,079
and uh, I think there's some entities, corporations, people that

776
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,599
will pay him for the drama, pay him for the

777
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,559
off field scandals, pay him for all these things, right,

778
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,440
and it could be beneficial from a real life drama

779
00:35:56,039 --> 00:36:01,639
uh reality TV standpoint right, But uh, you better be

780
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:03,840
careful because it can bite you in the button bum

781
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,320
as well. The delay maybe Warrington due to evil and

782
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:14,440
constructive criticism and coaching that is going on from mentors. Look,

783
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,079
this is what I'll say about the Pukaakua situation. I

784
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:24,480
think it's very difficult to navigate one's life, Okay, from

785
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,519
a very early age. Pukakua lost his father at a

786
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,960
pretty early age. So when I see some of this

787
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,840
happening in a young man's life, you know, it's a

788
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,360
combination of repression, hasn't been able to get it out

789
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,000
of his system, and male mentorship, especially from a fatherly figure.

790
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,599
If I'm going to diagnose a treat, that's what I get.

791
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,679
Is he getting that from his brothers, from his older brothers,

792
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,679
Probably not, you know what I mean, Like no offense

793
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,400
to any of the brothers, Like I think they're good,

794
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,320
good people. No, no like criticism being but I don't

795
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,440
know if they're getting fought. I don't know if Buka

796
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,039
is getting fatherly advice from uh, you know brother Sampson

797
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,559
who was you know, he was out and about too,

798
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,519
you know, maybe as a designated driver. But like are

799
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:22,519
we if we're truly evaluating the situation, I just think

800
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:26,599
that these are these are these are you know, signs

801
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,800
of the gaps the lack of of fatherly figure in

802
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,559
his life, especially from an early age, and then being

803
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:39,960
in an affluent situation, having access to these things, having uh,

804
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,440
the ability to do and say and it ultimately, you know,

805
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,960
engage in what you want all manner of a little

806
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,320
hedonism to bauchery and liciviousness.

807
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,159
Speaker 4: Right, it's all there for the taking.

808
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 8: Uh.

809
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,679
Speaker 5: The natural man is an enemy to God and has

810
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,320
since has been since the fall of Adam. Baby, Uh,

811
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,119
don't act like you know you're better than anybody else

812
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,400
because you don't do those things.

813
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,639
Speaker 4: You maybe not have been tempted by those things. You

814
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,840
haven't been given the opportunity to do those things. You

815
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,039
have been gifted affloids.

816
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,119
Speaker 5: Now it's really easy to say I would never do

817
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:11,599
such a thing, but you've never been in those situations either.

818
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
So I look at it, you know, as a you know,

819
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,599
I look at it as well as it can objectively,

820
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:19,039
and I'm like, look, I understand maybe a little bit

821
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,159
about what's going on. You have to have a little

822
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,000
bit of grace in the process. But man, that that

823
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,559
dude needs to find some good male mentorship asap, asap,

824
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:31,519
before things go get derailed real quick. Ronnie, I don't

825
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:33,039
know if you have any thoughts on this, but those

826
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:35,159
are my thoughts on the pooka A cool situation.

827
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,639
Speaker 8: Look we all need good mentors.

828
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:41,119
Speaker 12: I have good mentors, and because I maybe to notice it,

829
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:42,760
you know, between the ages of fortune and eights and

830
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,960
now that I'm back and I'm older, I can tell

831
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:46,519
and I look for those people a little bit more

832
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,119
of my life. And Pooka's at that point where I

833
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,880
feel like, you know, you need to be looking for

834
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000
those positive people. Those people want to build you up.

835
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,599
You know, not everybody has your best interests.

836
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:57,559
Speaker 8: They don't want you. That's something I've had to learn.

837
00:38:57,599 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 12: And this tough, right because you know, when you are

838
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,360
a fun, the life of the party, energy guy and

839
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,159
you have great relationships with people, sometimes people want to

840
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,119
take away from that more than you may know and

841
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,559
more than you may look at. So I hope he's

842
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,239
able to see that. Look still be yourself. I'm not

843
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,199
saying change who you are. I'm just saying change and

844
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,719
you know how you go about things and who you

845
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,039
let in your circle and how you carry yourself. And

846
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,079
I think that's a big thing, and I think you will.

847
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:21,800
I also do think he's gonna get you know, one

848
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,199
hundred and twenty million guaranteed.

849
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna get a big deal.

850
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 12: I think that they're gonna pay him, right, Ben, You're

851
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,119
not gonna let a guy like that walk out the door.

852
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,639
You're not gonna trade him. So the contract will happen.

853
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Whether you know they're nervous or not, it doesn't matter.

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BYU football right now, some camp Kallani if you will.

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Speaker 4: UH. We're getting towards the end of it.

889
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Speaker 5: What have we learned about this Cougar football team through springball.

890
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,280
Would you say, what is it that that we needed

891
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,880
to find out?

892
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,119
Speaker 4: Wait? I asked a number of questions.

893
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,519
Speaker 5: Okay, I ask a number of questions prior to spring

894
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,039
football kicking off, and uh, I think one of the

895
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,519
key questions was this, what will the defense look like

896
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:48,039
at least in the initial foray of it under Kelly Papinga,

897
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,960
Gary Anderson the new uh the new coaching staff in

898
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,639
essence with Lewis Walker to Mario Warren on the back

899
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,239
end as the secondary coach, and uh, I believe h

900
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:03,639
West as well as the assistant quarterbacks go so, Ronald,

901
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,960
from what we saw, what we've been able to gather

902
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,119
through our interviews throughout spring ball, what is it that

903
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:15,880
we know about this defense that replaces in essence? You

904
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,719
know you're j Hill defensive schematics. I mean a lot

905
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,559
of it's the same, let's be honest. But what if

906
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:24,480
we learned about the Kelly Papinga defense through spring?

907
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, the linebackers have gotten the linebacker group and obviously

908
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:29,760
he's the one coaching, and Ben has gotten deeper. You

909
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,440
bring the number one trans out of linebacker portal and

910
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,480
Kata Lujave. They add Jake Clifton. Jake Clifton's a dude been.

911
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,440
We've heard that name mentioned a bunch of times.

912
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,159
Speaker 8: Kay confirmed it. You know, Hey lifts with him.

913
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think that with Isaiah Glastrosialias here, competition

914
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,840
that room is going to be stiff. We learned that

915
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,400
the safety room is deep, you know, folatile raider, Tommy

916
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,360
Prass's right, all three of them are going to be

917
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,400
on the field at some point. So I know it

918
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,239
may sound like a lot of the same, but when

919
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,119
you couple the talent that they've added, impact players to

920
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,960
come in right away, Ben and with the returning production,

921
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:06,800
it has to bode well. And then leaders that have

922
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,760
emerged right the names that you want to hear at.

923
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,559
Keanu ton of Vasa is obviously rader the moon, he's

924
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,400
gotten vocal, Evan Johnson. You know, Kelly did say you

925
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,360
got a little bit dinged up in the media availability.

926
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,719
But Evan has stepped up in his game, you know,

927
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,519
and Keanu ton of Vasa defensive tackle. Right Justin Kirkland comments,

928
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,079
I know Justin's looked Grady's dropped a little bit of

929
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,719
way he's moving fantastic. So is the defensive line gonna

930
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,239
be better? Interior with Justin Kirkland, that was probably one

931
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
piece of the pie. Maybe you could tweak byu was

932
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:39,280
maybe stop and run a little bit more. But they're

933
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,119
not gonna miss a beat with not with John thalm

934
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,400
Wape not being back. If Justin Kirkland is healthy and

935
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,079
is able to perform as he's been in spring ball

936
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,599
with Keanu who's gonna be year two in that technique,

937
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:51,639
and the the edge rushers what they bring. So yeah, Ben,

938
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,079
I think what we learned is linebacker group is deeper

939
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,280
than what it has been, more talented for sure, and

940
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,039
then the defensive line, the interior has upped its PU.

941
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:02,880
We might have to interview him and find out how's

942
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,719
the defensive entire defensive line room, tackles and edge guys doing,

943
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,320
because we we've heard about them, but who are really

944
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,360
the guys Because that's kind of maybe the only question

945
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,599
mark you have when you look at linebackers, cornerbacks, safeties.

946
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,280
Everybody else has performed the way they should have. Tray

947
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,079
Alexander's put on a little bit of wait, you know

948
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,039
when I spoke to Evan Johnson. So the defense is solid,

949
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,239
Ben solid. They just got to get the depth now,

950
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,079
and that's what you want coming in the next year

951
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,480
because the defense was never an issue last year. It

952
00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:32,480
was more so, you know, the offense staying healthy and

953
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,840
guys there. But for the most part, I think BA

954
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,280
is going.

955
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,639
Speaker 8: To be solid. K Pop has got these guys dialed.

956
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,119
Speaker 12: They got to start practice better, right, but they're finishing

957
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,119
strong and he loves their aggressiveness.

958
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 5: One of the questions we had was RB two, and

959
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,840
I feel like has solidified himself as RB two. I

960
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,119
think the coaching staff has been more than vocal about

961
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,800
how good has looked throughout spring ball. So and he's

962
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,960
he's back to one hundred percent health. That's big time.

963
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,480
RB two seems to be solidified with Shiney Moa running

964
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:07,679
behind l J.

965
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: Martin. Do we know who RB three is though?

966
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,599
Speaker 5: You now as we sequence it down, is it is

967
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,559
it Preston Rex, is it Devon Eka?

968
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: Is it Logan Pain?

969
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,199
Speaker 5: It seems like this is a race for QB or

970
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,559
for RB three now and it could be between Preston Rex,

971
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:32,719
uh Devon Eka, and Logan Pain. Devon has received many,

972
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:39,400
I think uh ajulatory comments from his coaches. We've heard

973
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,960
from Uh A Rod and Uh, you know, I think specifically,

974
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:45,719
I think most of it's come from A Rod. I

975
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,679
don't know if anybody else has commented on it. Maybe

976
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:51,079
TJ Woods Uh has has maybe chimed in on that

977
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:56,039
as well, But A Rod has been been dulling out

978
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:59,239
a ton of praise towards Devon Eka and even recently

979
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,800
extended that out to Preston Rex that he's really liked

980
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,639
what Press and Rex have.

981
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,199
Speaker 4: Been doing during springball.

982
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 5: So don't sleep on the RB three competition because we

983
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,639
know it BYU.

984
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 4: You're going deeper than just RB two.

985
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 5: You're going to RB three, RB four and sometimes RB

986
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,880
five during the season.

987
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 12: To give a tween on that, Ben, I think, yeah,

988
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,199
go ahead to bring up a good point. Look that

989
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,119
everyone says, you know, health and LJ both have gotten hurt.

990
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,119
So I think you need to look at Okay, could

991
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,800
RB three be RB one and RB four b RB two.

992
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,599
I think that's a legit conversation you have to have

993
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,639
in people and say, oh this negativity are you trying

994
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,599
to put in there? No, I think you really need

995
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,519
to Press and Rex and Devon I need to stay

996
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,719
ready and even looking paying guys behind Javes, de Mooney,

997
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,119
everybody else in the running back room because if LJ

998
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,719
and go down, I remind people remember a couple of

999
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,440
years ago been with both Hinckley and LJ were dating

1000
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,280
three games into the season and then SI popped off.

1001
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,679
You have to be ready because running back is so

1002
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,599
brutal in college football that look, I don't want to

1003
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,639
see the reigning offensive player of the year get dinged up.

1004
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:03,760
I don't want to see an they had back to

1005
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,400
back seasons. But if it wo to be in a

1006
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,960
game of attrition. If that's the case, Devon, Eck and

1007
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,320
Preston need to be ready because their numbers will be

1008
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,719
called just like they were last year.

1009
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Indeed, wide receiver one has been a topic a conversation.

1010
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: Recently.

1011
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 5: A Rod was asked a question about the talent in

1012
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,440
his wide receiver tight end room, and he said, we

1013
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:27,800
will have plenty, We'll have plenty of options. He mentioned

1014
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,159
this in his particular commentary have been really high on

1015
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,159
Jojo Phillips, Kyler Casper. He went out of his way

1016
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,559
to say kind of things about Tay Nakua, the youngest

1017
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,639
Nakua out of the crew. And so do we know

1018
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:43,519
what do we know about our wide receiver room right now.

1019
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 4: We know that.

1020
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 5: A lot of them are are are big, strong and fast. Uh,

1021
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:53,880
you got some speedsters and Cody Hagen who could be

1022
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:59,119
vary intrigued legend glasgar another speedster dynamic can take the

1023
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:02,039
top off. And you have two really good receiving tight ends.

1024
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:06,239
And Roger Salia Paga and Walker Lyons who will steal

1025
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,880
some of the reps from some of those that like

1026
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000
the Tertiar the third wide receiver out of the group. Remember,

1027
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,639
if you're going twelve personnel, you ain't take an LJ

1028
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,639
off the football field. So if Walker and Roger and

1029
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,559
LJ are gonna be on the field a lot, that

1030
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,719
means there's only two for the tango at the wide

1031
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,480
receiver spot.

1032
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: Do we know who the top two are right now?

1033
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,760
Ronald the three man weaver.

1034
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we have two.

1035
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 12: I if I had to take a guess wide receiver

1036
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,239
one and two just off the top, I'm gonna go Kylie, Casper,

1037
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,800
Jojo Phillips. I think those of the guys right off

1038
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,960
the bat from Kyler making plays and having to come

1039
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,679
in and be proven right because he hasn't proven it

1040
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,119
being yet. You guys proved that yesterday. You know with

1041
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,440
Jared Bletzo Can he hasn't proven it as a wide

1042
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,400
receiver one with team being on the P four level

1043
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,559
being healthy, right, because he's been dinged up. But he's

1044
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:55,679
been doing that in the springball against this elite defense,

1045
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,280
so you have to take that into account.

1046
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 8: Now he does have to go do it on the field.

1047
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 12: But then Jojo, you've heard it constantly, Josiah Phillips is

1048
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,599
in rhythm. Yeah, him playing that bowl game, in the

1049
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:05,840
Pop Tarts Bowl game a lot of confidence. He needed

1050
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,880
that to come back. So to me, Ben, those are

1051
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,159
my two. And then if you want me to go

1052
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,119
after that, did I think I'll go this between wide

1053
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:12,679
receiver three.

1054
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 8: I'll leave it to a pool.

1055
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 12: Reggie Fishneck's in that conversation, Legend Glasters in that conversation,

1056
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:19,880
and then take Nicole is in that conversation. All of

1057
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,679
those names have been mentioned by the coaching staff, by Kilani,

1058
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,519
by a Rod So yeah, for me, those are That's

1059
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,079
why I'm taking at the top, and then we can

1060
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:28,880
have the debate about who the final three are later.

1061
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: There you go, that's.

1062
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 5: Some of the insider knowledge that we can provide for you.

1063
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,360
I think with the other things that we know are

1064
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
that Pockey Fee now is going to be your left tackle.

1065
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,039
I think Andrew Jamesry is going to be your right tackle,

1066
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,039
Bruce maketrol Officer your center. And then there's a competition

1067
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:49,039
brewing at the guard spots with a number of tenured,

1068
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,239
talented returners and newcomers.

1069
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: Something to watch.