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this BAU men's basketball team. Why this Cougar team could
be the best team in BAU basketball history, What does
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Speaker 2: And are they trending in that direction?
Speaker 1: How do they bounce back after a loss to Texas Tech,
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in former b Yu great also a fantastic lawyer. Shout
out to Nance law Logan Magnuson is on the line,
Ladies and Gentleen Logan, how that are you, buddy?
Speaker 3: Good? How you doing man? Always great to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Heck yeah, bro, it's great to catch up with you
as well.
Speaker 1: We got to get another poker night scheduled over at
James's house. You know, for those that don't know, Logan's
a fantastic Texas holding player.
Speaker 2: He always takes all my money.
Speaker 3: I don't tell all my secrets. I like to act
like I'm good, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: He's very very good, He's very strategic. I just go
all in, man, I'm aggressive, very aggressive. Sometimes I win,
sometimes I lose, but more often I lose. Logan, It's
a great day to be a Cougar. Obviously, BYU basketball
is looking awesome. Sixteen and two, they're throwing the Big twelve.
They did lose to Texas Tech. They were up nine
with nine minutes remaining and then it kind of fell apart.
Text Tech win in fuego b Why you couldn't buy
a bucket. But man, it's been a fun season thus far.
I wanted to get your perspective on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a great season. It's been fun to watch.
It's been fun to see them kind of figure it out.
I think, I mean, we have to realize they're still
trying to mesh together and figure out each other's kind
of positions, roles, responsibilities, and figuring out the rotations too,
with the injuries that have happened. So I think, I mean,
we see glimpses of it where things are operating smoothly
and going well, but then we see where they're not
and they're still trying to figure out how to get
out of those slumps. I mean, they had what a
nine to eleven point lead there at Texas Tech and
then kind of just went old, couldn't get a bucket
to fall, and Texas Tech kind of put the clamps on.
And but yeah, no, they're they're a fun team to watch.
They can score in all sorts of ways, and they've
got the talent to be really really good, and they're
they're fun to watch.
Speaker 1: You wonder if this is going to be the best
team all time in BA basketball history. You know, you
look at the best teams all time nineteen eighty nineteen
eighty one, Danny Ainge right as a senior leading his
team to an elite A. Frank Arnold was the head coach,
and they had a crew man. They had some NBA guys,
Great Kite was on that squad. They had some new
friend Roberts was getting buckets. And then you have your
gimmer for debt led team, Ryan Jackson, Emery Logan Magnus
and doing the Darty work so that the guys could
just get buckets, you know what I mean. And you know,
you guys had a squad went to the Sweet sixteen
as well. Most recently the Yegor Demon team Gelman. They
ended up first year KY Sweet sixteen. The talent is
too good. The talent, you know, tells us that this
team could be an Elite eight.
Speaker 2: And or Final four team.
Speaker 1: How you feel in confidence wise that this will be
the greatest team all time.
Speaker 3: That's a tough question to ask because I mean, I
always tell people from a basketball standpoint, you look at
some of the greatest talented teams don't quite do what
they're supposed to do right. So, so I mean you
look at Kentucky team's year in and year out and
how good they're even Mark Ope's team this year, and
how they're kind of struggling to put it all together
with all the talent they have. And I mean talent
wise from top to bottom. Was my team my years
that talented from like a star standpoint, no, probably not.
But you know, we played well together, we meshed well together,
we won games, and that's what it comes down to
in basketball, it's not an individual sport, it's a team sport.
So talented wise, this year's team, man, they are incredible
and they absolutely have the potential to be the best team.
And feel your basketball history, but you know, you got
to keep building, keep putting it together, keep blending all
the talent together. And I think that's one thing that
Kevin Young has the ability to do is take all
these different personalities and different talents and mess together and
get them believing and buying in. And you've seen that
throughout the season. I mean they've they've kind of ground
out some wins that maybe they shouldn't have, but they
find a way to win, and that really sets apart
great teams from your average team. So I think they
have the potential to do it. But again, only time
will tell.
Speaker 1: Right, only time will tell. What has stood out to
you about the team chemistry thus far? Obviously they're finding
ways to win versus formidable foes. Do you like what
you're seeing? The first chemistry is concerned, We're getting We're
inching closer to march mark. Madness is right around the corner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I think it's getting better and better.
And I think the fun thing is about this team
is I think coach Young does a great job of
finding the hot hand or drawing up plays or set plays,
or finding guys that are feeling it, and so that
allows for the chemistry to get going, and when somebody's
feeling that, you ride that for a little while. But
you know, it seems like their chemistry gets better and better,
and I almost don't mind the loss of Texas tech.
To keep them hungry, keep them motivated, you know, make
them work a little bit harder, get back to the
drawing board, make them, you know, earn it and stay hungry.
So and the big twelves are grind so you've got
to you know, there may be a couple more of
those losses before the big twelves over.
Speaker 1: Who knows, Yeah, there's definitely gonna be. This is a
true gauntlet, not this so called SEC football gautlet, that contrived,
fictitious godlet. This is a true Big twelve basketball gottlet.
We are the true SEC of sports, of collegiate sports.
Speaker 3: Absolutely you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We got Logan Magnison on the line Cougar Sports one
of three nine ninety eight point three ESBN, the fan
litt of college basketball on Cougar Sports.
Speaker 2: Three point shooting. We need some shooters.
Speaker 1: Seems like our brig three, you know, they do well,
they're they're solid, but the role players need some role
players to step up, hit a standing three for the
love of pete, play, great defense, rebound, et cetera. But
I think we're missing, you know, the standing three, uh
three point shooter right now.
Speaker 2: Where are we going to get it?
Speaker 3: Man, that's a tough question. I mean, you have a
couple of guys on the bench at Ross and the
other guy Coast. I can't yeah, Coast, I can remember
his last name. But yeah, both those guys, I think
they've just had a hard time finding that groove. And
you realize, you know, a name that was brought up
the other day is Dawson Baker's injury. Is is showing
much more crucial than and I think people realize and
the ability he had the stretch to defense, ball handle,
shoot the three ball, that would have been a huge
contribution as well. But yeah, somebody's got to step up
and knock down the three ball or we've got to
get you know, some more allioops going to draw the
defense in and some more post play and whoever that
might be to draw people out so the three others
can get open. But we've got to find it somewhere.
We've got to.
Speaker 1: Where will it be? And uh, you know what what
can be? Why you do to to still a little
bit of confidence in some of these shooters too, right,
Like I don't view K why as a guy that's
like yanking guys too early, you know, disrupting confidence. Like
we've seen those coaches in the past where like they
make one mistake, You're you're done, You're you're right in Pine,
Like K, why isn't that way? I wonder why some
of these guys just don't have maybe the confidence to
to step up and hit a semi contested or uncontested
three point shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, I remember, and kind of story time for me.
But I remember playing and I didn't get a whole
lot of playing time. But you know, as injuries kind
of mounted throughout the season, we lost you know, collins
Worth that year, and then we eventually lost Davies and
things like that. And I remember when we were in
practice and I got to pass out to the wing
and I was wide open. There was nobody even close
to me, and of course I knew my role was
to throw it back to Jimmer, right, and so I
threw it back. I threw it back to Jim Or
and Coach Rice just starts screaming to stop practice, and
he runs out on the court and he's like, Ogan,
I can't play you if you don't shoot the ball
and make it. So you've got to shoot the ball
and make it when you're open. And if you're not
going to do that, you're not going to play. So
so I you know, it's kind of that old mentality,
like you know, those guys on the bench, they understand
who they've got to get it to. But at the
same time, you know, you've got to be ready when
that opportunity presents itself because you're really just hurting the
team by not shooting an open look because teams will
just sag off to you and help on someone else.
So you've got to You've got to be ready anytime
you're open and hopefully the other guys. And I think, Kay,
why instills that? And he I'm sure he tells all
of them shoot it, But it's just having that mentality
that you're gonna shoot it when you're you're opening the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you this, what was a
common look that you would get outside of a putback
within the offense that you you know, you that you
would feel comfortable taking that shot and and you know,
like do what Rice told you, He's like, you're open,
shoot it, right, because we've seen that with other players
too in the past.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I remember, like Nate Austin as a freshman was willing
to take the shot, but as he as he got
into his career, like junior senior, you know, type of realm,
like he was passing up shots, right, you just passing
them up because other guys needed to score. So give
me an example of where you know you felt comfortable
taking that shot.
Speaker 2: What looks were you getting in the gym or era.
Speaker 3: And most of the time it was off, Like when
I was setting a screen for Jim or a pick
and roll or anything like that, and almost inevitably they
would always double team him. They would always blitz it
or double team him coming off that that screen. So
I'd pick and pop and as soon as I'd catch that,
I'd be facing the hoop and no one had come help,
and I'd see everybody staying on there, man, and I'm like, well,
I guess it's time to go up.
Speaker 2: Time to let it fly, Let it fly, baby. Yeah,
I was kind of pulling up. I was pulled up
the stats.
Speaker 1: You know, where do where do I'm trying to think
of from a game log standpoint, when you had like
the most open looks like I remember the Florida game,
even though it was a loss. You know, you only
you took like four shots, two of them are three
point shots, but you're fifty percent from the field.
Speaker 2: Bro, nice six point outing.
Speaker 1: In Wafford you had ten, Baby, you were cooking in
that Wafford game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the big one. Was a Wafford game
because it was it was a close contest the whole time.
And I remember I think the first three I hit
was kind of like a rattle down in the pick
and roll. I popped to the corner and it kind
of rattled around, and then the and I don't know
if that put us up like one or two or
maybe even three, I don't remember, but both of them
were like pretty crucial games. I think I hit two
threes that game, and both of them were pretty crucial
as far as the score standpoint to get us kind
of into three to four point lead and a little
bit of cushion to draw them off double teaming Jimmer
so much they had to honor me a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember three of six from the field, two
for three from the three point line ten points and
don't get a twist.
Speaker 2: He had seven rebounds too.
Speaker 1: He was doing that dirty work that he was supposed
to playing great defense as well.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta know your role. You got to
know your role, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's certain players on this team,
like you look at you know, a defensive stopper in
You know that that's struggling a little bit Moo Davis
right now, he's.
Speaker 2: Struggling with a shot. Does he continued to let it fly?
You know?
Speaker 1: Is he's you know, does he does he pass up
those shots that are wide open?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He's he's been pretty bad in big to a play
from the three point line?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I I mean you look at all
of them. I think they just need to get the confidence.
They don't get that much shots. But yeah, hopefully they're
telling them to just keep letting them fly and they'll
go down, because I mean, that's what you've got to do.
Keep shooting them. You got to get in the gym,
practice them, get after, get lots of shots up, and
hopefully they fall as soon as you see one fall.
Hopefully it's just everything opens up after that point.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Logan magnuson here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network, Logan,
a couple of last things before we let you go.
Appreciate you hop it on to talk to BYU basketball
with us.
Speaker 2: What what can you know? You?
Speaker 1: You you watch Aj debotsam right, He's he's an elite score.
You were surrounded by the best score in BAU basketball
history and Jim Orfer dead.
Speaker 2: You know, AJ is a pot the score.
Speaker 1: He's gonna possibly be the number one overall draft pick.
What improvements would you like to see from his game
in order to hopefully take BYU to the next level
as Jimmer did once upon a time?
Speaker 3: Oh man, man, I mean it's it's hard to find
very many flaws or improvements. But I think the biggest thing,
especially with incoming freshmen, is just get a little bit
stronger right to be able to manage manage that contact,
manage the physicality the big twelve play, because I mean,
we've seen some of these games where I think it
was TCU at home, where the rest just don't call
anything the whole first half. It's like they just let him.
It's almost turns into a football match. And so you know,
and he's he's strong for his age, absolutely, but you know,
and that'll come with maturity and getting a little bit older.
But just being able to be a little bit more
physical handle the physicality of the grind of the big
twelve basketball, of the fouling of the getting after it.
I think that's the only thing I would I would
say as far as a game standpoint, I mean, his
game is his way beyond mine and whatever would be
or ever has been. So he's got quite an impressive
offensive arsenal and I he does a really good job defensively.
You can tell he's probably trying to stay out of
foul trouble a little at times, like he doesn't go
for things like he normally would like to, because I
think they're trying to keep him out of foul trouble
because he's much more valuable. But he does a good
job of being long athletic, getting his hands on stuff.
But when people go to the rim, it seems like
he's staying vertical or staying out of the way to
let Tada come over and do the dirty work.
Speaker 1: You bring up a really good point about physicality, and
now the controversial take that that could get me in trouble,
but you know he's your teammate, so maybe you can
be a buffer a bear between us.
Speaker 2: But you know, Jimmer.
Speaker 1: Fordet, I like, I was a big fan of Chubby Jimmer,
and Chubby Jimmer was at like senior years, like he
was like two ten, like he bodied up eyes, this
skinny like defined ripped Jimmer like in the NBA and EuroLeague. No, man, no,
that was trash bro I didn't I don't care Gmo
dash in. And also the best Jimmer I ever saw
was Chubby Jimmer his senior year.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: I mean he I think he was tipping the scales
like two ten, two fifteen?
Speaker 2: How much did he weigh?
Speaker 3: But probably at least that Yeah, that's that's because Jimmer
was fast food Jimmer. He didn't have all these nutritionists
in ballots like he was. He was fast food creamery
every night, like eating watching Seinfelds. Of course that was
just like nutritionists. Jimmer didn't have one nutritionists. Was fast
food and have to eat. He loved his his food.
So yeah, whoever got him on that diet and strict plan. Yeah,
he's he's looking better now retired than he did when
he was at BAU probably he's got a six pack
in abs now.
Speaker 1: So ridiculous, But I don't that's not the best basket
about player Jimmer. In fact, I mean I think he
was listed at like one ninety five in the league,
right and uh, you know he's probably in that one
ninety one ninety five arena, but he's ripped, you know,
look fantastic. Uh But man, I've always wondered what Jimmer
wade his senior year, because like he could just body
up guys, like he could get anywhere on the court,
like almost like Chris Paul, you know what I mean,
not exactly because but you know how Chris Paul like
in his old like in the Back Happens career, like
he always seemed like he could get anyone on the court,
not with quickness and athleticism, but with like with physicality.
Speaker 2: You know, he's just a big thick dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I almost look at what's his name? The
point guard for the Jazz, wasn't it Darren Williams for
a little whit Yeah yeah, kind of uh huh more
physical the other the other key factor. Maybe we got
to look into this. Maybe it wasn't a nutritionist, Maybe
it was his wife whipping him into shape, saying he
needs to look a little better than the beach spot.
So maybe Whitney's a little bit to blame for some
of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean chubby Jimmer dad better than than
skinny Jimmer. I'll tell you, man, he was.
Speaker 2: He was a.
Speaker 1: Bucket bro, a bucket. I mean you had to body
him up like us. He's a thick, strong dude.
Speaker 3: His shoulders are like a semi truck like. He has
had big, old broad shoulders and they were always Yeah,
he was tough, he was tough to guard, and yeah,
strong athletic. And then his quick side crossover, he planted
so hard he would break out of so many shoes
that he you know, with all that force and body weight,
he'd blow out shoes on the outside. We had to
have two or three every game because he'd break him
from his crossover.
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy, Bro, that's pretty crazy Jimmer. Creamery Jimmer.
That's the guy that that was the best player in
Bay Basket plays a creamery Jimmer.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, logan, give us a brief update. What
you do, how you do it? I mentioned nance law?
What keeps you busy? These days?
Speaker 3: Oh? Nance law? Coaching tons of sports. I'm helping at
Syracuse High School. They've got a game tonight at Farmington,
and then I'm coaching my eighth grade boys basketball teams.
He's on a couple of different ones. And then daughter's
doing dance and youngest is doing basketball and other stuff.
So yeah, it's chasing around kids and coaching and working
the fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Love that man, well, keeping busy, steam busy, giving back
to the kiddos in the community. Love and appreciate your logan.
Thanks for hopping on for a little college basketball segment.
Thanks for you know, helping me out. If it gets
back to Jimmer, then I'm a fan of Chubby Jimmer.
You know, make sure you defend me on that.
Speaker 3: Maybe we should have something that is a jersey retirement
or something like we should hold up a sign or
something like creamery Jim Chubby Jim or something like that. Well,
we'll get it to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go do cheby Chubby. I want to picture.
I mean, the thick Chubby Jimmer is the best gym.
I'm telling you, let's give it to him. I will,
I will be I will be the guy to hand
it to him. No controversy with me love it, Logan,
appreciate you man, thanks for thanks, thanks so much for
joining us.
Speaker 2: As always, thank you.
Speaker 3: Have a good one.
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