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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this so marches right around the corner

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welcome in a former b YU Great Hooper to discuss

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this BAU men's basketball team. Why this Cougar team could

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be the best team in BAU basketball history, What does

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he think about it?

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Speaker 2: And are they trending in that direction?

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Speaker 1: How do they bounce back after a loss to Texas Tech,

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business today. Let's get out to the hot line. Welcome

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in former b Yu great also a fantastic lawyer. Shout

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out to Nance law Logan Magnuson is on the line,

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Ladies and Gentleen Logan, how that are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Good? How you doing man? Always great to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Heck yeah, bro, it's great to catch up with you

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as well.

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Speaker 1: We got to get another poker night scheduled over at

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James's house. You know, for those that don't know, Logan's

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a fantastic Texas holding player.

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Speaker 2: He always takes all my money.

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Speaker 3: I don't tell all my secrets. I like to act

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like I'm good, but I'm not.

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Speaker 1: He's very very good, He's very strategic. I just go

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all in, man, I'm aggressive, very aggressive. Sometimes I win,

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sometimes I lose, but more often I lose. Logan, It's

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a great day to be a Cougar. Obviously, BYU basketball

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is looking awesome. Sixteen and two, they're throwing the Big twelve.

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They did lose to Texas Tech. They were up nine

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with nine minutes remaining and then it kind of fell apart.

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Text Tech win in fuego b Why you couldn't buy

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a bucket. But man, it's been a fun season thus far.

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I wanted to get your perspective on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a great season. It's been fun to watch.

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It's been fun to see them kind of figure it out.

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I think, I mean, we have to realize they're still

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trying to mesh together and figure out each other's kind

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of positions, roles, responsibilities, and figuring out the rotations too,

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with the injuries that have happened. So I think, I mean,

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we see glimpses of it where things are operating smoothly

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and going well, but then we see where they're not

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and they're still trying to figure out how to get

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out of those slumps. I mean, they had what a

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nine to eleven point lead there at Texas Tech and

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then kind of just went old, couldn't get a bucket

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to fall, and Texas Tech kind of put the clamps on.

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And but yeah, no, they're they're a fun team to watch.

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They can score in all sorts of ways, and they've

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got the talent to be really really good, and they're

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they're fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: You wonder if this is going to be the best

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team all time in BA basketball history. You know, you

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look at the best teams all time nineteen eighty nineteen

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eighty one, Danny Ainge right as a senior leading his

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team to an elite A. Frank Arnold was the head coach,

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and they had a crew man. They had some NBA guys,

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Great Kite was on that squad. They had some new

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friend Roberts was getting buckets. And then you have your

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gimmer for debt led team, Ryan Jackson, Emery Logan Magnus

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and doing the Darty work so that the guys could

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just get buckets, you know what I mean. And you know,

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you guys had a squad went to the Sweet sixteen

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as well. Most recently the Yegor Demon team Gelman. They

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ended up first year KY Sweet sixteen. The talent is

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too good. The talent, you know, tells us that this

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team could be an Elite eight.

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Speaker 2: And or Final four team.

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Speaker 1: How you feel in confidence wise that this will be

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the greatest team all time.

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Speaker 3: That's a tough question to ask because I mean, I

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always tell people from a basketball standpoint, you look at

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some of the greatest talented teams don't quite do what

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they're supposed to do right. So, so I mean you

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look at Kentucky team's year in and year out and

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how good they're even Mark Ope's team this year, and

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how they're kind of struggling to put it all together

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with all the talent they have. And I mean talent

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wise from top to bottom. Was my team my years

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that talented from like a star standpoint, no, probably not.

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we won games, and that's what it comes down to

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in basketball, it's not an individual sport, it's a team sport.

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So talented wise, this year's team, man, they are incredible

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and they absolutely have the potential to be the best team.

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And feel your basketball history, but you know, you got

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to keep building, keep putting it together, keep blending all

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the talent together. And I think that's one thing that

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Kevin Young has the ability to do is take all

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these different personalities and different talents and mess together and

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get them believing and buying in. And you've seen that

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throughout the season. I mean they've they've kind of ground

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out some wins that maybe they shouldn't have, but they

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find a way to win, and that really sets apart

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great teams from your average team. So I think they

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have the potential to do it. But again, only time

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Speaker 1: Right, only time will tell. What has stood out to

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you about the team chemistry thus far? Obviously they're finding

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ways to win versus formidable foes. Do you like what

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you're seeing? The first chemistry is concerned, We're getting We're

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inching closer to march mark. Madness is right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. I think it's getting better and better.

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And I think the fun thing is about this team

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is I think coach Young does a great job of

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finding the hot hand or drawing up plays or set plays,

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or finding guys that are feeling it, and so that

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allows for the chemistry to get going, and when somebody's

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feeling that, you ride that for a little while. But

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you know, it seems like their chemistry gets better and better,

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and I almost don't mind the loss of Texas tech.

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them work a little bit harder, get back to the

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drawing board, make them, you know, earn it and stay hungry.

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So and the big twelves are grind so you've got

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to you know, there may be a couple more of

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those losses before the big twelves over.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, Yeah, there's definitely gonna be. This is a

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true gauntlet, not this so called SEC football gautlet, that contrived,

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fictitious godlet. This is a true Big twelve basketball gottlet.

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We are the true SEC of sports, of collegiate sports.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We got Logan Magnison on the line Cougar Sports one

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litt of college basketball on Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 2: Three point shooting. We need some shooters.

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Speaker 1: Seems like our brig three, you know, they do well,

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they're they're solid, but the role players need some role

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players to step up, hit a standing three for the

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love of pete, play, great defense, rebound, et cetera. But

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I think we're missing, you know, the standing three, uh

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three point shooter right now.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going to get it?

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Speaker 3: Man, that's a tough question. I mean, you have a

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couple of guys on the bench at Ross and the

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other guy Coast. I can't yeah, Coast, I can remember

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his last name. But yeah, both those guys, I think

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they've just had a hard time finding that groove. And

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you realize, you know, a name that was brought up

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the other day is Dawson Baker's injury. Is is showing

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much more crucial than and I think people realize and

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the ability he had the stretch to defense, ball handle,

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shoot the three ball, that would have been a huge

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contribution as well. But yeah, somebody's got to step up

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and knock down the three ball or we've got to

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get you know, some more allioops going to draw the

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defense in and some more post play and whoever that

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might be to draw people out so the three others

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can get open. But we've got to find it somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Where will it be? And uh, you know what what

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can be? Why you do to to still a little

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bit of confidence in some of these shooters too, right,

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Like I don't view K why as a guy that's

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like yanking guys too early, you know, disrupting confidence. Like

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we've seen those coaches in the past where like they

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make one mistake, You're you're done, You're you're right in Pine,

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Like K, why isn't that way? I wonder why some

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of these guys just don't have maybe the confidence to

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to step up and hit a semi contested or uncontested

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, I remember, and kind of story time for me.

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lot of playing time. But you know, as injuries kind

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of mounted throughout the season, we lost you know, collins

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things like that. And I remember when we were in

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practice and I got to pass out to the wing

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and I was wide open. There was nobody even close

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to me, and of course I knew my role was

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to throw it back to Jimmer, right, and so I

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threw it back. I threw it back to Jim Or

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and Coach Rice just starts screaming to stop practice, and

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he runs out on the court and he's like, Ogan,

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I can't play you if you don't shoot the ball

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and make it. So you've got to shoot the ball

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and make it when you're open. And if you're not

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going to do that, you're not going to play. So

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so I you know, it's kind of that old mentality,

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like you know, those guys on the bench, they understand

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who they've got to get it to. But at the

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same time, you know, you've got to be ready when

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that opportunity presents itself because you're really just hurting the

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team by not shooting an open look because teams will

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you're open and hopefully the other guys. And I think, Kay,

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why instills that? And he I'm sure he tells all

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of them shoot it, But it's just having that mentality

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that you're gonna shoot it when you're you're opening the game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you this, what was a

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common look that you would get outside of a putback

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within the offense that you you know, you that you

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would feel comfortable taking that shot and and you know,

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like do what Rice told you, He's like, you're open,

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shoot it, right, because we've seen that with other players

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I remember, like Nate Austin as a freshman was willing

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to take the shot, but as he as he got

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like he was passing up shots, right, you just passing

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them up because other guys needed to score. So give

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me an example of where you know you felt comfortable

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Speaker 2: What looks were you getting in the gym or era.

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Speaker 3: And most of the time it was off, Like when

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I was setting a screen for Jim or a pick

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and roll or anything like that, and almost inevitably they

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would always double team him. They would always blitz it

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or double team him coming off that that screen. So

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I'd be facing the hoop and no one had come help,

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and I'd see everybody staying on there, man, and I'm like, well,

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I guess it's time to go up.

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Speaker 2: Time to let it fly, Let it fly, baby. Yeah,

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the stats.

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Speaker 1: You know, where do where do I'm trying to think

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of from a game log standpoint, when you had like

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the most open looks like I remember the Florida game,

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even though it was a loss. You know, you only

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you took like four shots, two of them are three

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point shots, but you're fifty percent from the field.

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Speaker 2: Bro, nice six point outing.

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Speaker 1: In Wafford you had ten, Baby, you were cooking in

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that Wafford game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the big one. Was a Wafford game

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because it was it was a close contest the whole time.

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And I remember I think the first three I hit

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was kind of like a rattle down in the pick

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and roll. I popped to the corner and it kind

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of rattled around, and then the and I don't know

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if that put us up like one or two or

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maybe even three, I don't remember, but both of them

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were like pretty crucial games. I think I hit two

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threes that game, and both of them were pretty crucial

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as far as the score standpoint to get us kind

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of into three to four point lead and a little

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bit of cushion to draw them off double teaming Jimmer

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so much they had to honor me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember three of six from the field, two

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for three from the three point line ten points and

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don't get a twist.

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Speaker 2: He had seven rebounds too.

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Speaker 1: He was doing that dirty work that he was supposed

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to playing great defense as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, you gotta know your role. You got to

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know your role, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's certain players on this team,

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like you look at you know, a defensive stopper in

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You know that that's struggling a little bit Moo Davis

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right now, he's.

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Speaker 2: Struggling with a shot. Does he continued to let it fly?

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You know?

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Speaker 1: Is he's you know, does he does he pass up

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those shots that are wide open?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: He's he's been pretty bad in big to a play

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from the three point line?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I I mean you look at all

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of them. I think they just need to get the confidence.

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They don't get that much shots. But yeah, hopefully they're

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telling them to just keep letting them fly and they'll

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go down, because I mean, that's what you've got to do.

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Keep shooting them. You got to get in the gym,

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practice them, get after, get lots of shots up, and

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hopefully they fall as soon as you see one fall.

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Hopefully it's just everything opens up after that point.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Logan magnuson here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network, Logan,

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a couple of last things before we let you go.

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Appreciate you hop it on to talk to BYU basketball

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with us.

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Speaker 2: What what can you know? You?

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Speaker 1: You you watch Aj debotsam right, He's he's an elite score.

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You were surrounded by the best score in BAU basketball

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history and Jim Orfer dead.

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Speaker 2: You know, AJ is a pot the score.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna possibly be the number one overall draft pick.

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What improvements would you like to see from his game

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in order to hopefully take BYU to the next level

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as Jimmer did once upon a time?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, man, I mean it's it's hard to find

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very many flaws or improvements. But I think the biggest thing,

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especially with incoming freshmen, is just get a little bit

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stronger right to be able to manage manage that contact,

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manage the physicality the big twelve play, because I mean,

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we've seen some of these games where I think it

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was TCU at home, where the rest just don't call

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anything the whole first half. It's like they just let him.

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It's almost turns into a football match. And so you know,

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and he's he's strong for his age, absolutely, but you know,

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and that'll come with maturity and getting a little bit older.

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But just being able to be a little bit more

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physical handle the physicality of the grind of the big

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twelve basketball, of the fouling of the getting after it.

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I think that's the only thing I would I would

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say as far as a game standpoint, I mean, his

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game is his way beyond mine and whatever would be

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or ever has been. So he's got quite an impressive

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offensive arsenal and I he does a really good job defensively.

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You can tell he's probably trying to stay out of

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foul trouble a little at times, like he doesn't go

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for things like he normally would like to, because I

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think they're trying to keep him out of foul trouble

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because he's much more valuable. But he does a good

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job of being long athletic, getting his hands on stuff.

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But when people go to the rim, it seems like

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he's staying vertical or staying out of the way to

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let Tada come over and do the dirty work.

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Speaker 1: You bring up a really good point about physicality, and

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now the controversial take that that could get me in trouble,

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but you know he's your teammate, so maybe you can

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be a buffer a bear between us.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Jimmer.

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Speaker 1: Fordet, I like, I was a big fan of Chubby Jimmer,

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and Chubby Jimmer was at like senior years, like he

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was like two ten, like he bodied up eyes, this

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skinny like defined ripped Jimmer like in the NBA and EuroLeague. No, man, no,

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that was trash bro I didn't I don't care Gmo

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dash in. And also the best Jimmer I ever saw

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was Chubby Jimmer his senior year.

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: I mean he I think he was tipping the scales

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like two ten, two fifteen?

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Speaker 2: How much did he weigh?

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Speaker 3: But probably at least that Yeah, that's that's because Jimmer

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was fast food Jimmer. He didn't have all these nutritionists

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in ballots like he was. He was fast food creamery

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every night, like eating watching Seinfelds. Of course that was

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just like nutritionists. Jimmer didn't have one nutritionists. Was fast

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food and have to eat. He loved his his food.

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So yeah, whoever got him on that diet and strict plan. Yeah,

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he's he's looking better now retired than he did when

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he was at BAU probably he's got a six pack

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in abs now.

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Speaker 1: So ridiculous, But I don't that's not the best basket

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about player Jimmer. In fact, I mean I think he

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was listed at like one ninety five in the league,

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right and uh, you know he's probably in that one

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ninety one ninety five arena, but he's ripped, you know,

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look fantastic. Uh But man, I've always wondered what Jimmer

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wade his senior year, because like he could just body

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up guys, like he could get anywhere on the court,

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like almost like Chris Paul, you know what I mean,

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not exactly because but you know how Chris Paul like

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in his old like in the Back Happens career, like

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he always seemed like he could get anyone on the court,

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not with quickness and athleticism, but with like with physicality.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just a big thick dude.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I almost look at what's his name? The

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point guard for the Jazz, wasn't it Darren Williams for

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a little whit Yeah yeah, kind of uh huh more

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physical the other the other key factor. Maybe we got

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to look into this. Maybe it wasn't a nutritionist, Maybe

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it was his wife whipping him into shape, saying he

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needs to look a little better than the beach spot.

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So maybe Whitney's a little bit to blame for some

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of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean chubby Jimmer dad better than than

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skinny Jimmer. I'll tell you, man, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a.

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Speaker 1: Bucket bro, a bucket. I mean you had to body

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him up like us. He's a thick, strong dude.

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Speaker 3: His shoulders are like a semi truck like. He has

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had big, old broad shoulders and they were always Yeah,

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he was tough, he was tough to guard, and yeah,

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strong athletic. And then his quick side crossover, he planted

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so hard he would break out of so many shoes

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that he you know, with all that force and body weight,

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he'd blow out shoes on the outside. We had to

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have two or three every game because he'd break him

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from his crossover.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy, Bro, that's pretty crazy Jimmer. Creamery Jimmer.

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That's the guy that that was the best player in

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Bay Basket plays a creamery Jimmer.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, logan, give us a brief update. What

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you do, how you do it? I mentioned nance law?

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What keeps you busy? These days?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Nance law? Coaching tons of sports. I'm helping at

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Syracuse High School. They've got a game tonight at Farmington,

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and then I'm coaching my eighth grade boys basketball teams.

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He's on a couple of different ones. And then daughter's

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doing dance and youngest is doing basketball and other stuff.

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So yeah, it's chasing around kids and coaching and working

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the fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: Love that man, well, keeping busy, steam busy, giving back

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to the kiddos in the community. Love and appreciate your logan.

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Thanks for hopping on for a little college basketball segment.

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Thanks for you know, helping me out. If it gets

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back to Jimmer, then I'm a fan of Chubby Jimmer.

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You know, make sure you defend me on that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should have something that is a jersey retirement

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or something like we should hold up a sign or

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something like creamery Jim Chubby Jim or something like that. Well,

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we'll get it to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go do cheby Chubby. I want to picture.

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I mean, the thick Chubby Jimmer is the best gym.

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I'm telling you, let's give it to him. I will,

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I will be I will be the guy to hand

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it to him. No controversy with me love it, Logan,

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appreciate you man, thanks for thanks, thanks so much for

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joining us.

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Speaker 2: As always, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Have a good one.

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