WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:05.000 For this Monday night, December sixteenth, twenty twenty four. 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:07.280 The days are the fleeting. 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:12.240 We're almost out of the year, and we're celebrating a 4 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:17.679 very very special occasion, the anniversary of the birth of 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.320 a local Cincinnati legend. That's right today, lo those many 6 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.359 years ago, Andy Furman came into the world, and here 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.280 he is ready for his spanking, to celebrate another year 8 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:37.640 older and another year I'm sure wiser, some people would say, 9 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:42.119 he would probably say that, I'm not sure. But with 10 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:49.159 that in mind, hello Furball. 11 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.000 Well, thank you so very much, and thank you for 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.960 reminding me that it's my birthday, because to me, it's 13 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:53.119 just like any other day. 14 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:55.359 But I certainly appreciate that. 15 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.280 And honestly, you know, when you get a little older, 16 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:00.759 I don't know if you look forward to the birthdays 17 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:01.240 that much. 18 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:02.479 Is that true? I don't know. 19 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:04.879 It is kind of exciting, it is. 20 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:05.400 In a sense. 21 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:08.640 But you know, I know one thing, you get a 22 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.359 little ornery the older you get. And I think one 23 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.680 of the reasons being is the fact that you don't care. 24 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.280 You don't care what you look like at times, you 25 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:19.599 don't care what you wear. No, you just don't care. 26 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:21.840 So you say it and if you you know, and 27 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.560 sold somebody and kiss them off, let it go. 28 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.400 And I tell you I got a couple of it. 29 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.040 I want to get off my chairs, which I usually 30 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.840 do with you, And one of them is the Christmas 31 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.359 party situation. Are you ready for this? 32 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:34.359 Can you handle it? 33 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:35.319 Sure? 34 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:35.840 You're ready? 35 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.239 I missed dark Christmas party here at iHeart this year, 36 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.159 sadly for about the twentieth year in a row. 37 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:44.000 But what were you going to say? 38 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.879 Well, obviously I don't know a lot of people, but 39 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.840 I do get invited to several Christmas parties every year. Yeah, 40 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.120 but I wish what they would do is have one 41 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.400 day and call it party Day, because they came after 42 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.159 another and a lot of times they overlapped. I'll give 43 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.480 you an example. There was a party way back on 44 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.879 the fourth of December. A Keith Sprunk, a good longtime friend, 45 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:11.439 got everybody. 46 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.120 Together at River Downs and I guess for lunch. I 47 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:15.759 couldn't make it. 48 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.919 Because that's something else that evening had jags. They had 49 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.879 the NFL Alumni, which I'm a member of because I 50 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.800 did some work in the PR department of the Miami 51 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.800 Dophins years ago. Because I worked with the Fort Laudaville 52 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.800 Strikers soccer team, and both the Strikers and the Dolphins. 53 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.159 Were owned by Joe and Liz Robbie, the Robbie family. 54 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:37.879 So I'm a member of the NFL alums. 55 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.319 And again I didn't. 56 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.199 Make that if there's something else was going on. There 57 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.520 are too many things going on at various times where 58 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:47.520 people just can't get to every one of them. So 59 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.919 they have to designate one day, call it party day. 60 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:52.719 I'm sorry, that's the way it should be. 61 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.439 But Denna, if they just had one day set aside 62 00:02:56.479 --> 00:03:00.080 for these celebratory moments, Andy, you'd only have to go 63 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.159 you'd only you only be able to go to one. 64 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.000 You'd have to pick one. 65 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:09.439 Now, see, you've got a broad range of dates, and you'll. 66 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:11.560 Have one day. One day. 67 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.840 It starts at noon and it ends at midnight, and 68 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.599 you can only attend. It's only two hours, no more 69 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:19.520 so if you have several parties you want to go to, 70 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:21.599 you go every two hours, you go to a different 71 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.520 party and get it done. It's over with and that's it. 72 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:25.879 And honestly, it would. 73 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:27.159 Avoid a lot of these. 74 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:32.319 Duy's really uh, you know, embarrassment, embarrassing moments at parties 75 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.639 things like that, you get it over a one day 76 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.039 I love the law enforcement would love that. Whereastet patrolling 77 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.520 for DUIs almost every day since the first of December, right, 78 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:42.439 think about that. 79 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.840 Well, they have to announce them on the radio when 80 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:47.360 and where they're going to do them, by law Andy, 81 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.639 So it's not really that at the checkpoint. 82 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:51.039 No, I don't know. 83 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.599 I mean, they announced the checkpoints where they're going to be, 84 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.879 but there's a lot more places they are besides those 85 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:58.280 checkpoints that are announced. 86 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.360 Believe me, Well, if you're up roadblocks, they've got to 87 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:01.960 announce them. 88 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.159 But you're right, I mean, if you're driving, Michael Fool, 89 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.080 if you're an idiot and you've you know, had too 90 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.599 much to drink and you get behind the wheel, I 91 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.159 hope they are out there. 92 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.039 I mean for just for public purposes. 93 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:18.279 But most of the time the DUIs that are charged 94 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.839 and written are like point oh eight and the driver 95 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.319 is not really drunk. They were just stupid enough to 96 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.279 tell the cop that they had had a drink. Or 97 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:31.120 to most people who get DUI's the first timers. Anyway, 98 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:35.839 it's just a money grab by the police, by the state, 99 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:39.160 by the prosecutors, and that doesn't keep anybody safe. 100 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:41.680 I agree with you. 101 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.319 Now, Now let me ask you this. Should one person 102 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:49.240 at the at the Clear Channel Hive get a DUI, 103 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:51.240 would they be dismissed from their job? 104 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:51.360 On? 105 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.319 Hold on, hold on you you have made it. 106 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:55.800 You've made a habit of correcting me when I've said 107 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.120 things incorrectly on the earth. And now it's my turn. 108 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.839 First and foremost, you talked about something at River Downs. 109 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:06.839 It does not exist, Andy, River Downs is no, that's right, 110 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:07.959 you said river Downs. 111 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:08.759 Okay. 112 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.959 Secondly, you wait until you get done with your spanking, 113 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.399 young man, and then you can speak what I was. 114 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:19.199 It is Downs. 115 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.000 They still have thoroughbred racing there. It's River Downs. It's 116 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.720 bell Terra Casino, River Downs at Bell Terra Casinos. 117 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.000 Bell Terror Park, Bell Terra Park. 118 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.399 Are you're right about Cliff channelart Media? 119 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:32.920 iHeart media right? 120 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.920 Which you said clear Channel and that is an entity 121 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.360 that no longer exists as far as I. 122 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.720 Know, you're right. 123 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:44.279 I mean, what what the hell is your problem? Why 124 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.439 are you getting all these Is this this a result 125 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.720 of your aging brain? Are you cognitively challenged? 126 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:49.959 Now? 127 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:55.879 With I mean no, I just do you? 128 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.839 Do you have anyone help you? Eat your pudding. I mean, 129 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:00.319 what's going on here with this? 130 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:00.959 Now? 131 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.639 I know that you gotta. 132 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:03.920 Get my bid. 133 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:05.720 I gotta get my bid for my cake. 134 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.199 Yeah, there's there's no there's no girl coming out of 135 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.920 your cake. I'm just letting you know. Now we we 136 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:18.040 couldn't afford a girl, but we got something that's almost 137 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:18.600 as good. 138 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.439 It's it's the question at hand. 139 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:24.399 It's it's a guy. 140 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.480 It's a guy who's transitioning, but he's gonna come out 141 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:27.959 of your cake. 142 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.360 Nonetheless. Now I know if it. 143 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.519 Should someone get the d u y situation with iHeartMedia, 144 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.240 would that person be dismissed from his job? I'm just curious, 145 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:39.959 is that in the handbook aside. 146 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.120 I'm not naming any names. 147 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.360 Of course, it would depend on the circumstance and the 148 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.720 egregiousness of the infraction. 149 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:48.279 If you just got picked up for a. 150 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.319 Wait, put an asterism, and the importance of the person. 151 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:56.000 If it's a behind the scenes guy who is an 152 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.480 editor or a producer, he's gonzo to make a statement. 153 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.240 If it's a big time personality, nothing happens. 154 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.639 No, it's more I think it's more of a statement. 155 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.160 If it's an on air frontline personality. You don't want 156 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.600 the rest of the hoard thinking that they can just 157 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.879 get away willy nilly with drinking and driving because they've 158 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.600 got an air shift. I actually, and I'm not mentioning 159 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.360 any names, I actually work with a couple of people 160 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.160 in this building, in this company now who've had the 161 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:31.240 misfortune of having a a DUI arrest. And again one 162 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.279 of them in particular I know about. It was one 163 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.120 of those situations where it was like a point eight. 164 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.600 He was just above the legal women and was not 165 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:43.839 drunk and was not impaired to drive. And nevertheless, because 166 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.040 of the jurisdiction where he got the dui, which by 167 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.560 the way, is a place called Fort Thomas you may 168 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.360 be familiar with. That is the only way they generate 169 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.279 revenue in Fort Thomas is from speeding, traffic violations and 170 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:02.240 most importantly dui and they make a mint. They got 171 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.680 a lot of nice squad cars at Fort Thomas. No, 172 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:10.560 but well yet is Jesus is the reason for the 173 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.000 season not to UIs though, and I think they need 174 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:13.920 to keep that in mind. 175 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:15.120 Now. 176 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.879 I will mention since you are my one of my 177 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:21.079 few Jewish friends, I just don't know that many you 178 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:25.519 and Lewis Kaplan and a couple of others. But Honikah 179 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:29.079 is actually starting the first day of Honkah is on 180 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:30.800 Christmas Day this year? 181 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:31.959 Is that Kismet or what? 182 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:32.720 Right? 183 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:33.960 That's cool? 184 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:35.639 I don't ever remember that happening. 185 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.399 I don't ever remember that happen. 186 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.960 And Kwanza too is on the twenty fifth this year. 187 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.399 I don't know how they decide. 188 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:44.440 What they do. 189 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.519 Do we like the menora and I put the gifts 190 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:48.960 under the tree at the same time. 191 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:50.080 I mean, I don't know. 192 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:55.240 Well, I mean, you like the minora, You put the 193 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.240 gifts under the tree, and you crank up some gangster 194 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.559 hip hop. That's that's how you celebrate all three at 195 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.360 once and one fell swoop. I know that you're a 196 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:08.000 member of the Rotary. You're you're a member the Rotary Club. 197 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.440 Right, Covington Rotary. 198 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:11.679 Covington Rotary. 199 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.200 They recently had an awards banquet, and I heard that 200 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.200 you were named Rotarian of the Year. 201 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:18.559 Is that correct, Andy Furman? 202 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.279 No, you heard you heard wrong. But I gotta check 203 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:26.919 my sources. I would never be anything of the year. 204 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:30.120 To be honest with you, But you know, just just 205 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:32.200 I'm glad they let me in I'm glad they let 206 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:32.799 me in their club. 207 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:33.440 To be honest. 208 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.519 Well, well, I mean I I just thought you went 209 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:37.240 for the lunch. 210 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:41.759 Well, actually I too. 211 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:43.360 Is it good? Is it good? 212 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.320 Because a lot of times at those seven meetings. Listen 213 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:49.240 back when I was a bus boy at Heritage House 214 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:54.519 Morgesborg in the late seventies, we hosted because it was 215 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.360 a big place. It had like two thousand seats and 216 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.720 three buffet lines. It was a huge, huge restaurant. But 217 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.639 we would host the Kawanis Club and I think the 218 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:08.519 Rotary Club may meet there once a month or something 219 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:13.639 like that at the Smorgesborg And those were some of 220 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.440 the most boring people I think I'd ever encountered to 221 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.240 that point. Now I've met well I've met lots of 222 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.279 more boring people since. But you know, it's a seventeen 223 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.120 sixteen year old kid. I thought, well, these guys are 224 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.759 a bunch of wet blankets. They do this for fun. 225 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.039 This is what they do. What a what a rotary? Well, 226 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:35.360 what a rotarians do? And I know it's a philanthropic organization, right. 227 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:37.879 They service people. 228 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:39.360 That's that's basically what they do. 229 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:41.279 The service people. 230 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:46.000 Wait a minute, yeah, and they do good there used 231 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:46.399 to play. 232 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.279 There used to be plenty of places in Newport where 233 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.120 women would service people and get paid for it. 234 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.480 It's not this not the same thing though, right. 235 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.159 Not the same thing they did. They're do gooders. 236 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:02.879 They're do gooders. That's what they do. 237 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:04.240 They service people. 238 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:06.240 Uh, and they're there to help people. 239 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.639 And then you know they do charitable operations. Yeah. But 240 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.159 you know during the last several weeks they were ringing 241 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.679 the bell for the Salvation Army, the volunteers during that 242 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.759 they deliver food to people. You know, they're just do gooders, 243 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.480 they really are. And they're business people. See, they're good people, 244 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.080 they really are. I'm not too sure about I don't 245 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:24.759 know about the other. 246 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.000 Clubs what other clubs do. 247 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.679 Like the Lion, The Lions are up it for eyeglasses. 248 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:30.279 They'll beg with eyes and stuff. 249 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:35.200 But Rotarians the worldwide they helped cure polio the rotarians 250 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.759 years ago and basically. 251 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.519 They were working were working in the lab with Jonas Sauk. 252 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.360 Is that what happened but help. 253 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.480 But they helped polio in the sense that when they 254 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:51.279 had the the polio vaccine, they were able to distribute 255 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:52.600 that vaccine worldwide. 256 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:56.360 That is a worthwhile cause, there's no question about it. 257 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.879 So do you have I know you downplayed your birthday today, 258 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.840 but do you have any plans other than talking to 259 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.360 me tonight for your big birthday? 260 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:07.720 Andy? 261 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.480 You know what, I think it should be a surprise. 262 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.320 I think it's a family surprise. That's the way I'll 263 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.399 leave it to me. It's a day like any other day. 264 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.440 I'm happy I've lasted this long and made it to 265 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.399 this birthday. And I'm very appreciated the fact that a 266 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.480 You've got me on the radio and be you remembered, 267 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.200 so not many people do, but I thank you, I 268 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:28.720 really do. 269 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:31.360 And I'm touched. I am touched. How's that? 270 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:32.399 No, I'm touching you. 271 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.879 A lot of people have said you were touched for 272 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:37.120 a long time. Now. 273 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.919 I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, not 274 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:45.200 regarding Christmas parties or your birthday, but let me ask 275 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.720 you that we just found out last week that Dave 276 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:50.399 Parker rightly. 277 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.480 Is in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. 278 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.039 Do you think there need to be changes in how 279 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:58.879 Hall of Fame choose inductees and in all the sports, 280 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.480 whether it's the NFL, the MLB, the NBA. I mean, 281 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.039 are you happy with the selection process to this point? 282 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.600 Andy, I would. 283 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.279 Say this, I think the selection process and the voters 284 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:14.039 do an outstanding job because I don't think they just 285 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:14.799 put down. 286 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.159 People they know. I think they really do their homework. 287 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.000 What I'd like to see is that these voting processes 288 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:25.799 become a little more transparent. I don't know how they 289 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:29.000 get in. I like to know who votes, especially in football. 290 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.120 Is it the writers? I mean who votes? And how 291 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.200 many writers vote? I don't know. I have no idea 292 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.879 how Ken Anderson cannot be in the Pro Football Hall 293 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.080 of Fame. I really don't And I don't know as 294 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.080 far as Major League Baseball is concerned. What the hell 295 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.480 is the Veterans Committee, which Dave Parker basically got in. 296 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.039 Why does he have to wait for that? 297 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.320 But he basically was the player of the seventies when 298 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:53.960 he played, So I don't understand. Why does it take 299 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.639 a veteran. I'll give you an example. Several years ago, 300 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.639 Bill Mazeroski got into the Hall of Fame by way 301 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.000 of the Veterans Committee. I'm not so certain. Bill Mazeroski, 302 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.879 who had a lifetime batting average for the Pittsburgh Pirates 303 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:09.000 as a second baseman in the two sixties. His client 304 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.960 to fame is hitting that home run in the nineteen 305 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.720 sixty World Series off Ralph Terry to win the World 306 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:19.240 Series over the Yankees. Forbes Field and Pittsburgh. Obviously he 307 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.559 knew people. I'm the Veterans Committee, and he got in. 308 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:23.919 I don't think that's the way to go. I want 309 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.159 it to be very transparent. Who does the voting and 310 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.440 more than that, who these people voted for and why 311 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.960 answer questions. I think they should answer questions as. 312 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.600 To why is it Ken Anderson in? 313 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.000 Who voted for him and who did not vote for him? 314 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:38.600 And why. 315 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:41.000 That's all I'm going to say. There's the way to go. 316 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:41.919 Ah. 317 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:46.799 You know what, when your congressman votes on bills, it's 318 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.039 on a congressional record. 319 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.360 You know who voted. Yay, you know who voted now, right, 320 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.879 So why not with the Pro Football and Baseball Hall 321 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:55.320 of Fames? 322 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.360 Why don't we know how they vote and who didn't 323 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.679 vote and who did and all the rest of that. 324 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:01.960 I have one more question. 325 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:03.080 Give me an example. 326 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:06.799 I'll give you an example about baseball. For years, Uh, 327 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.759 Steve Carlton, Lestie Carlton never got into the Hall of Fame. 328 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.960 Great picture for the Philadelphia Phillies. Why was that? 329 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.000 The late Phil Peppi for the New York Daily News, 330 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:20.320 was the president of the Baseball Writers Association. He did 331 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.399 not like to let the Carlton Why because after the 332 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.000 ball games Steve Carlton refused to talk to the media. 333 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:30.600 It's his call. He never would talk. Go back to 334 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:31.240 his locker. 335 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:31.879 Boom. 336 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.360 That was it, and phil Peppie started, May he rest 337 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.480 in peace. Phil Peppe, I loved him to death. He 338 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.399 went to my high school years before me. But Phil 339 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:42.200 peppe started a little bit of a group to not 340 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.360 vote for Steve Carlton for the Hall of Fame. 341 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.799 You're essentially saying, Phil Peppi, even though you loved him 342 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.519 to death and God rest his soul, was a putts. 343 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:55.120 He was wrong, all right? 344 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:57.440 Well, no, he was wrong. You know, I loved him, 345 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:59.080 I still love him. May he rest in peace. But 346 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.559 he was wrong on discount. You know, he took a 347 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:05.440 personal grudge and he used it against the guys in 348 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:11.840 not livelihood, but his guy's I guess his career, you know, basically, 349 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.759 he took it against his career, his legacy, so to speak. 350 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.440 Right, I have one more real quick question Andy, before 351 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.519 our time runs out. The sands through the hour glasses. 352 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.320 They say, I have this idea. I'd like to see 353 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:27.320 one rule change in the NFL, and it regards timeouts. 354 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.639 I think if you don't, if you're smart enough not 355 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.200 to use any of your timeouts in the first half, 356 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.200 or you have one left, you ought to be able 357 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:36.559 to carry it over to the second half. 358 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:37.879 What about that idea? 359 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.120 No, No, because it makes one half more and more 360 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.360 advantageous than the other. 361 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:43.559 No. No, no. 362 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.639 And then again, if I if I'm a coach and 363 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:48.879 I don't use eighty in the first hand, I mean, 364 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.000 if I have six and the other guy would be 365 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:52.320 down to three, it's not there. 366 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:53.960 Well, that's advantage. 367 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.440 Because that's he's better clock management the other coach. 368 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.000 Well, whatever it might be, just I think you want 369 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:02.399 to try to keep it as even as you can. 370 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:03.360 I like it. 371 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.759 No, I don't like the idea of the overtime. When 372 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.720 you flip a coin. I mean you're playing your your 373 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:11.359 ass off for sixty minutes and it all boils down 374 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.440 to a coin flip. I mean, come on, really, I 375 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.119 mean the whole overtime thing should be revammed. 376 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:17.880 I don't like it. 377 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.839 Play an extra period. That's as you do. They play 378 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.440 an extra ten minutes, you have to play fifteen play 379 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.039 an extra ten minutes. Stop stop with the you know, 380 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:27.920 if they score a field goal, the other team, just 381 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:29.799 the ball. If you score a touchdown, it's over. 382 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.640 Not there. I just like a soccer you go overtime. 383 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:36.680 You know if they do corner kicks, penalty kicks, Yeah, 384 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.279 penalty I what do you mean you're gonna play? You're 385 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.440 gonna play ninety minutes and then it comes down to 386 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:42.200 penalty kicks. 387 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.960 Running up and down the field, sweating like a lake's 388 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.119 worth of of bodily fluids out of you, and then 389 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.960 it's all decided by one or two kicks at the right. 390 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.359 That's it's exciting. Well, you know that it's exciting. 391 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:57.440 Yeah. 392 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:01.160 I will tell you this on your bird and on 393 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.920 this show. I just want to say, you talked about 394 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.079 extra periods. I hope that you have an extra period 395 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:07.519 of life. 396 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.720 Andy, Thank you so much, because the. 397 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:13.519 Clock is running out. The clock is running out. You're 398 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:14.200 running out. 399 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.039 Of timeouts, Andy, I know, thank you. 400 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.119 Better get you, better get out of bounds before before 401 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:20.880 we expire. 402 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.079 Here. 403 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.720 I love you, Happy birthday to all right, thank you 404 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:28.400 very much. See take care. 405 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:32.519 The night Cap continues in a moment on Andy Fourman's 406 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.680 birthday on seven hundred w LW. 407 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.559 It's the Get Holiday Ready sales event with hankin Cy. 408 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:41.279 Our next guy sports for the out of sorts in 409 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:45.880 this first hour of this night cap and putting the 410 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:50.160 finishing touches the couda grass, so to speak. On our 411 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:55.920 discussion of balls, the one and only sports Commando wild 412 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.880 Man Walker joins us, wild Man, are we going to 413 00:18:58.960 --> 00:18:59.880 talk about ball? 414 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:01.599 Particularly footballs? 415 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:12.000 Uh? Footballs, maybe a smidgeon of basketballs, but footballs all. 416 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.720 Right, Uh, let's go ahead, get the basketballs out of 417 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:19.119 the way. Any response to the Crosstown shootout on Saturday, 418 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:19.480 It was. 419 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.400 A very entertaining game, it really was. I mean Xavier 420 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.880 went up and then you see went up, then Xavier 421 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.480 went down, and Xavier came back up, then you see 422 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.000 went down. But you see, just I think we just 423 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:34.039 wanted it just a little bit more, just wanted a 424 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.200 little bit more. And I'm for west Miller, I mean, 425 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.559 fully the monkeys off his back because he had lost 426 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:42.880 what five straight, three straight something like that to Xavier. 427 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.559 So it was a very entertaining game. I know, all 428 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.640 over social media people were raising kine about the game 429 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:50.960 not locally being on television, and I just think that's 430 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:54.240 a croc that local TV does not carry this game. 431 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:56.519 They could carry that get a lot more viewership. 432 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:57.200 They could sell it. 433 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.759 There's no doubt in my mind they could sell it 434 00:19:58.799 --> 00:19:59.480 to sponsors. 435 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:01.880 It on ESPN plus. 436 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.519 Gary Jeff that the feed was really bad, was going 437 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.119 in and out, in and out, so people that had 438 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.279 to pay to get that just for this game were 439 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.720 getting all honked off. Because this game should be on 440 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:11.359 local TV. 441 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:11.920 It really should. 442 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.720 It's one of the best rivalries in college basketball. 443 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:15.440 It really is. 444 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.759 It always was on local TV up to what just 445 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.039 a couple of years ago, I mean, and it was 446 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:25.559 easily easily found, and not just on channels that most 447 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.920 people get through their providers, but like you said, on 448 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:32.759 local on air terrestrial television signals that. 449 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:34.400 You can pick up with an antenna. 450 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.880 You know, whether it was Fox nineteen or Local twelve 451 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:40.839 or any of the rest of them, it would be 452 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.039 a huge draw, I would think, and you know. 453 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.160 College it would be. I know it would be. 454 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.279 I mean, the Crosstown shootout has kind of lost some 455 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:51.960 of its luster, and I don't know why it's you know, 456 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.200 it used to be starting to week up, it was 457 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.400 just the talk of the town and you know, some 458 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.599 of the guys were talking smack and the paper. Now 459 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:00.519 nobody reads the paper, and the paper us a fan 460 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:01.200 of the planes. 461 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.079 But still this game. 462 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.440 Everybody wanted to watch it, and you know you got 463 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:06.720 to go to it. I got to go to a 464 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.240 watering hole to watch the game because you know it's 465 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:12.279 on ESPN Plus. It's it's ridiculous, it really is. It's 466 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:13.480 it's sad. It's sad. 467 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.160 Well we sound like two dinosaurs talking about the good 468 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.920 old days almost, because it's more and more of that 469 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:22.480 is moving that way. But you know, when they started 470 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:27.920 putting an NFL game on Thursday night on on Apple Prime, 471 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.920 I mean I don't have Apple Prime, and a lot 472 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.079 of people aren't willing to pay an extra free to 473 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:36.640 see things that they used to get on free TV. 474 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:39.200 And I'm kind of the same way. So I don't 475 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.319 care if I sound like a dinosaur or not. I'm 476 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.759 with you on this camp here. I mean, ESPN Plus 477 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:49.079 it's a fine outlet for whatever kind of programming. ESPN 478 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.759 the entertainment and sports programming network wants to put on it, 479 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:57.960 but I as far as college basketball selling out to 480 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:00.599 this high bidder, and nobody can see the game on TV. 481 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:01.599 Thank god. 482 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:05.000 You can hear it for free on seven hundred WLW 483 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:08.319 and on fifty five KRC as you could this weekend. 484 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.119 But you know what, it ain't the same as watching 485 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:12.680 I don't care who's doing that. 486 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.759 Now the same, but you can't. There's no doubt. 487 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:19.480 Let's say, Channel sixty four, hardly anybody watch us. I'm 488 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.680 sure they could sell this at a heartbeat, the sponsorships 489 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:24.559 for this game. And like I said, you play the 490 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.519 game at night and you got a lot more viewership, 491 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:29.480 a lot more and people tune it in. 492 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:30.160 At two o'clock. 493 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.319 All right, So we'll move from basketballs to footballs. 494 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:36.680 And we were getting down to crunch time. 495 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:41.519 The Bengals still not eliminated from possible playoff contention at 496 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:46.920 six and eight now with their victory on Sunday against 497 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:51.720 Tennessee against the Titans in Nashville, my old hometown, and 498 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:54.720 it was just it was one of the wildest football 499 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:56.839 games I think I've watched this year, with all of 500 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.559 the turnovers and all of the penalties, I mean you, 501 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:03.160 it was the definition of sloppy, and yet it still 502 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:04.000 was entertaining. 503 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:05.559 Did you find the same. 504 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:10.319 Thing I couldn't cur sloppy and entertaining. Sloppy and entertaining. 505 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.119 Ten turnovers the most I think since uh oh, what 506 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:17.400 year was between the oh my god, what year was that? 507 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.119 Since I think it was two thousand, I think it 508 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.640 was twenty ten and a game. 509 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.599 Well, every time, every time there was a turnover by 510 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.839 either team, they kept going back to another year when 511 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:31.880 there were that many turnovers. First it was twenty twenty one, 512 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:33.680 and then it was two thousand and seven, and by 513 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.759 the time they got done, it was two thousand and 514 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.559 and the penalties, the penalties were mountain up two like 515 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:43.160 crazy anyway go ahead, And the penalties on the. 516 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:44.759 Bengals side, a lot of them were due because of 517 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:46.359 the offensive line. They had to put a couple of 518 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:48.799 guys in there that really hadn't been playing much so 519 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:51.279 and I know I know that that that that they 520 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.599 played a part in it. But will Levis man a man. 521 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.599 They almost mortgaged the farm to get this guy. And 522 00:23:57.640 --> 00:23:59.400 you talked about a guy that looked at a sink. 523 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:01.319 Man. Man. 524 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.359 He just throw he just thrown the football out there 525 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.519 for people to to catch. 526 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.720 I was joking with mo Egger on Saturday Morning show 527 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.599 wild Man. I said, Will Levis has a hard time 528 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:16.240 throwing the ball to his receivers in practice when there's 529 00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:17.160 no one guarding. 530 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:19.319 He has had all. 531 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.039 He's had a hard season Will Levis, There's no question 532 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.440 about that. But Joe Burrow, I mean, he made his 533 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:29.440 mistakes too, and he was visibly frustrated. There was the 534 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.559 there was the conversation with Zach Taylor on the sideline 535 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.640 where oh, yeah, Zach's down there on his knees trying 536 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:37.599 to I don't know, he's trying to calm Joe down 537 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.960 or whatever, because Joe was hot, and you saw Joe 538 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:44.200 get hot with his head coach too. 539 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.000 Oh he dropped a couple f bombs. Have you had 540 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.599 to read his lips real good. They had a communication 541 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.279 problem with the helmet and coming off off the sideline, 542 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.200 so they had a problem there that they led led 543 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.359 to that conversation. But how about this The Bengals went 544 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:03.000 Gary Jeff was there four hundreds and franchise history that 545 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.039 was number four hundred and franchise history and Joe Burrow, 546 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.279 of course three touchdowns. That gives him thirty sixty that 547 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:12.319 that equals the franchise record that he held. Anyway, so 548 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.920 now he still holds the record. There's a chance he 549 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.480 can become the only quarterback in Bengals history. Let's throw 550 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.599 forty touchdowns and I would say, with three games to go, 551 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.119 I would I would, I would get that. 552 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:22.920 I would take that bet. 553 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.759 I wonder if I could get that bet in Vegas. 554 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.039 I'm sure you can go to fan duel or DraftKings 555 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.720 are somewhere and make that bet right now, lyle Man 556 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:32.519 at a premium for you. 557 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:36.359 Well, I'm gonna start looking what kind of want to get. 558 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.440 But I'm gonna start looking at let's give the let's 559 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.160 give the Bengals defension to they they get. They've taken 560 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:42.720 a lot of crap all year, but coming up with 561 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:46.240 four interceptions yesterday a Gino Stone back to back games 562 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.359 with interception as he took one to the house. 563 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:49.359 But then let's not. 564 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.839 Forget about Jordan Battle of picking up that picking up 565 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:54.160 that bumble and then running into the end zone and 566 00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:55.640 dropping the ball before he got. 567 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:59.480 To the Leon. He's Leon lent moment of his career. 568 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:03.680 That's just unacceptable. You know, and I'm glad that Zach 569 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:05.880 Taylor made a point that said, we can't have that. 570 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.920 Then you had one on the Colt side. The Colts 571 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.039 also one of their players did it also. 572 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:14.640 Well watching that in real time, it looked like he 573 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.640 was over the line when he tossed ball, but then 574 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.000 when they showed the replays, like, no, he didn't have 575 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.519 control of the ball as he crossed the goal line 576 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.880 and then fumbled it out of bounds and threw his 577 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.079 arms up like, ah, I just scored a touchdown. No, 578 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:34.400 you just you just sacrificed what should have been. It 579 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:37.400 should have made it thirty eight at that point in 580 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.559 the game, and then the Bengals would score another touchdown 581 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:46.359 and get to the thirty seven mark. But still it 582 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.799 was just like he thought that he'd already won the 583 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:54.000 game and just and it didn't follow the ball. If 584 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:56.839 he fell on the ball before it ended the fell 585 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:58.680 out of the end zone, it would have been a touchdown. 586 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.079 Is it should have been just nuts, Well. 587 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.319 That would have been That would have been the icing 588 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.920 on the cake for him. Because it was his birthday yesterday, 589 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.039 so here he could have scored a touchdown on his birthday. Well, 590 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.319 that was just part of the sloppiness that we saw 591 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.079 yesterday in that game. And hey, the Bengals have a 592 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:16.200 six percent chance from one I been reading a six 593 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.599 percent chance. They just need too much help and it's 594 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:21.119 not gonna happen. I've been down this road for four 595 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.720 fifty years with this football team when they need help 596 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.799 to get into playoffs. They've never gotten it. They've never 597 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.440 gotten it, and they're not going to get it. 598 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.759 Well, it's taken a long time to get to four 599 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.680 hundred victories for the Bengals. You know, you're going back 600 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.000 to what sixty eight was that the first year? 601 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.160 Sixty seven, sixty eight sixty eight. 602 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.400 Yeah, sixty eight, sixty eight the first year as a 603 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:48.400 franchise and just four hundred. I mean, we need to 604 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.799 work on that win total, wild man, they really do. 605 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:55.640 Before I let you go, we got to talk about 606 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:57.920 the game of the Game of the day was the 607 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.359 Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions. What almost ninety points they 608 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.160 scored between those two teams and the Lions with all 609 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.880 the guys they got banged up, managed to put forty plus. 610 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.359 And I know they lost, but they put forty plus. 611 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.640 We might just see those teams at the Super Bowl. 612 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.920 Well, I've been talking about the Lions, and I guess 613 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:21.000 you have two for a while now as being Super 614 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:21.680 Bowl teams. 615 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.640 And you know what, the Bills. 616 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.000 They went out and they lost what the week before 617 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:31.319 to the Rams, right right, Yeah, they lost to the Rams. 618 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.880 And the Rams have been up and coming, and that's 619 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.359 a coach that has some Super Bowl experience out in LA. 620 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.480 But Buffalo still looks I mean, they still look vulnerable. 621 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:49.119 The Lions are vulnerable because half their damn defensive team 622 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.319 that they're counting on is either out for the season 623 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.759 or you know, is banged up. Like you said, Detroit 624 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.759 is a very compromised defense right now, and that is 625 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.599 the key to their success. Even though they racked up 626 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.920 point after point offensively, a lot of that's been predicated 627 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.119 on their defensive abilities to stop the other team and 628 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.640 get great field position, which they've done all year. Kansas 629 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.400 City just keeps on winning. And you know what, I know, 630 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.720 the Chiefs don't look strong at all. I know that 631 00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.960 they look offensively compromised because they have been this season. 632 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:31.839 Patrick Mahomes not having a stellar season by his own standards. 633 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.880 But Kansas City just keeps winning games. I mean, they 634 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.319 went into Cleveland. It could have been a trap game 635 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.920 for sure for the Chiefs. They took care of business. 636 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.640 I still think that there's room for the Chiefs in 637 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.240 this Super Bowl discussion wildly. 638 00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:46.480 Oh. 639 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.799 I don't count those guys out because they know how 640 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:50.599 to win. They've been down this road. They're going to 641 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.599 possibly make history with three pre Super Bowl victories in 642 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.680 a row. But get back to Buffalo, Gary, Jeff. Buffalo 643 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.920 made a statement in this game last night because they 644 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.319 had to go into Detroit. They were lucky to get 645 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.279 out of Buffalo because they had another man a snowstorm there. 646 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.880 They went into hostile territory and really dominated that game. 647 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.880 They really didn't. Josh Allen right now is the MVP. 648 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.400 He is the MVP. The only guy near him is 649 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.759 Saquon Barkley. But I got it right now. If I 650 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.880 had a vote, it'd be Josh Allen the MVP of 651 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:21.039 the National Football League. 652 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:22.799 You mentioned Saquon Barkley. 653 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:28.400 Philadelphia takes care of Pittsburgh and and so I mean, 654 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:33.839 does that does that diminish It's still it's still anybody's division, 655 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.359 the AFC North. When you're talking about Pittsburgh and Baltimore, 656 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:37.759 isn't it. 657 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.640 Well, that's yeah, thats exactly comes down to those two 658 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.400 teams exactly. I mean, Steelers are in the playoffs. They 659 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.680 are in, but it's going to come down to Baltimore 660 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:50.039 and Pittsburgh. Without a doubt. 661 00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.720 I thought that there was a possibility, just because they're 662 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:58.079 the Pittsburgh Steelers and it's Mike Tomlin, you know, in 663 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.640 the coaching seat there, that they would be in the 664 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:02.200 super Bowl. 665 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.400 And I don't see it. Now. I don't see I 666 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:05.960 don't see the Steelers in the super Bowl. 667 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.759 Yeah, you know, I don't see. 668 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:09.599 I don't see the Steelers get to the super Bowl. 669 00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:12.319 And I just don't see that. I don't see that. 670 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.200 I think we're gonna put money on you, put your 671 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.079 money on the bills and maybe put you some money 672 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:18.000 down there on the. 673 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.480 Side on the Kansas City Chiefs. 674 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.920 And and I'm not I'm not a big Ravens fan, 675 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:24.319 either of them getting it all the way to the 676 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:25.200 big I'm not a. 677 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.799 Big Ravens fan at all. I think I think people 678 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.160 get all harp to hyped up into Lamar Jackson. Whether 679 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.160 it takes more than Lamar Jackson to get you to 680 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:32.960 the super Bowl. 681 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.200 Even with the loss to Buffalo at home. The Lions 682 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:38.279 are still my team in the NFC. Have you seen 683 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.119 anybody else that comes close? 684 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.119 No? No, no. 685 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:46.039 I mean the Eagles are dangerous, but I think Dan 686 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.200 Campbell is a better coach than the Eagles coach and 687 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.680 I could come down the coaching decisions there when the 688 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:51.279 pressure is on. 689 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:56.519 All right, Uh so we're heading to uh we got 690 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.359 next week. We got big Browns, the Browns, that's. 691 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.599 Right, They and they and they and then from all indications, 692 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:05.759 I think Jamius Winston's going to be put on the 693 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.559 bench and they're gonna go with their third their third 694 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:08.480 string quarterback. 695 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.519 You know, the Bengals have been beaten by by lesser quarterback. 696 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:14.160 Don't don't bring that up. 697 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.640 I know, but maybe maybe if the secondary plays the 698 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:22.079 way they played against Tennessee yesterday, we'll see a lot 699 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:27.319 more i nts and a lot more defensive scores for 700 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.559 the Bengals next week against Cleveland, because they are going 701 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.039 to need that kind of help. 702 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.759 I mean, there's no margin for error with this team, 703 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:35.640 wild man, at. 704 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:40.160 All, Absolutely no margin, Like I said, six percent chance. 705 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.039 They need a lot from other teams that's never worked 706 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.079 out in their favor. And if they could finished nine 707 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.079 and eight, that'd be great. Kudos to them to have 708 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.039 a winning season. And I know the guys down there 709 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.880 are not quitting, you know. I saw that big miludmouth 710 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:52.640 stephen A. 711 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.119 Smith the other day saying the Dallas Cowboys and just 712 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:56.039 tanked the season. 713 00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.720 Players have too much pride to tank. The players have 714 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.240 too much play. Plus they're playing for jobs then come 715 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.119 out to come out ever say, plus they need to 716 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.640 tank the season. Would you want guys on your team 717 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:08.279 just to quit? 718 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.160 Well, wild man, I would agree. I don't. 719 00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.480 I don't think the players are going to tank the season, 720 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.839 but I do believe organizations sometimes as a rule, tank 721 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.000 the season at a certain point for positioning going into 722 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.240 next year. Organizations, organizations tank seasons, not players. 723 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.519 Players aren't going to do that at all. Just to 724 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.920 hear them to say that, they say that was just idiotic. 725 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:38.920 No, but what they general, a general manager and an 726 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.960 owner in cahoots can tank seasons. 727 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.519 And we've seen that over and over again. 728 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.079 But yeah, yeah, we could see that. Yeah, but they're 729 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:47.720 not gonna have the players just give up. 730 00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.599 No way, no way? 731 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.720 All right? Can I get a wild man who day 732 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.119 as we finish? 733 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.039 Uh? 734 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:56.519 Do you want a who day who? 735 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.119 That's pretty good. You're right on, right on, Paul. 736 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.839 Uh, I've got I'm feeling good. The Bengals will take 737 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:05.960 care of the Browns, and now we'll worry about the broncause, well, 738 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.800 the Bengals know the Browns have already beat the Browns 739 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.760 this year. I don't care what quarterback they got. Joe 740 00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.920 Burrow wants to wants this win bad. It comes Sunday, 741 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.880 it goes the Browns. You know that they've kind of 742 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.800 been a thorn in his side. Bengals will be ready 743 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:19.679 for this game, big time. 744 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.320 They'll be ready. 745 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:26.519 Joe Burrow forever third string quarterbacks never, I like it. 746 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.039 Take care wild Man, all right, talk to you soon, pal. 747 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:30.800 You got it. 748 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.199 Joel Gilbert find out who he is next on the 749 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.280 Nightcap on seven hundred W l W. 750 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:47.719 Meanwhile, in the Intented Forest, the princess holds a ceremony. 751 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.840 And wacky Why, thank you, your majesty. This is quite 752 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:49.280 the honor. 753 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:50.039 Now off you go. 754 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.159 Well this is it? You mean, we don't get a 755 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:53.079 castle or anything. 756 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.639 What you get is to go back to the radio 757 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.400 station and entertain your millions of listeners. 758 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.719 See, oh boy, beat it. Well, that's one cranky princess. 759 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.199 I heard that Buster, Eddie and Rockie give your day 760 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:06.559 a fairy tale end. 761 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.719 Eddie and rock tomorrow afternoon to three on seven hundred WLW. 762 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.519 Hosting your loved ones for the holidays also means inviting 763 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:14.800 extra germs into your home. 764 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.880 Refresh your home with Zeris. 765 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.239 Into another hour of the Nightcap on this Monday evening, 766 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.679 December sixteenth, seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff into this hour 767 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:33.519 with something that is extremely interesting to me. In fact, 768 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.119 many many different facets of interest involved with this guest. 769 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.119 He is a documentary filmmaker, president of Highway sixty one 770 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.519 Entertainment and many other things. As you will hear in 771 00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.400 the next few minutes. His name is Joel Gilbert. It's 772 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.400 a pleasure to have you, Joel, thanks for being on 773 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:50.840 the show. 774 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.159 Okay, thank you. All right, So. 775 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.239 Right now we're focusing on your latest work, The Climate 776 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.679 According to ai Al. When I first saw the title 777 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.559 of this, I mean just brilliant right from the gat, 778 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.880 because you actually have an ai generated Al Gore in. 779 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:19.320 This documentary who is coming to task with all of 780 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:24.039 the statements, misstatements and the propaganda he's pushed on climate 781 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.679 change over the last thirty some years, and if you 782 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.440 can elaborate a little bit more on this particular film 783 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:36.119 and how you came to the idea of the AI 784 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.039 generated al Gore confronting these questions. 785 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.119 All right, well, this film pretty much blows the lid 786 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.239 off the whole climate emergency hoax. And I do this 787 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.360 by looking at where the whole climate science came from, 788 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.119 and it came from al Gore. He's kind of the 789 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.880 godfather of the movement. He introduced this idea in nineteen 790 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.280 ninety two in his book Earth and the Balance, claiming 791 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.280 there was a while I'm in an emergency, there was 792 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.599 an apocalypse coming, and it was all based on carbon dioxide, 793 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.559 saying that there's too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, 794 00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.400 humans are putting it into the atmosphere, and the whole 795 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.079 place is going to flood. We're all going to die 796 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.199 if you don't have this centralized government and do what 797 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.320 I say. So I went and researched al Gore. I 798 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.480 did that because I actually worked for him as a 799 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.559 student intern in nineteen eighty nine when he was a 800 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.239 Conservative US Senator from Tennessee. I worked in his office 801 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:29.639 as an intern, So I got to know him a 802 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.039 little bit, and I looked at a lot of his statements, 803 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.239 including his two thousand and six movie called Inconvenient Truth. 804 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.239 And Gore always said, I'm not a climate scientist. I'm 805 00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.559 no scientist, but I got my science from taking a 806 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.920 course at Harvard for three months with a professor named 807 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.760 Roger Ravel, And that's where all this comes from. And 808 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.159 I realized that no one ever looked into it. So 809 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.159 I went down to the University of San Diego and 810 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:57.559 looked at the papers of this Harvard professor. There's stored there, 811 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:00.880 and it turns out, first of all, took a class 812 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.199 in human populations. It was about the population explosion. It 813 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.320 had nothing to do with climate science, nothing to do 814 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.679 about the atmosphere. Gore gets a C in the class 815 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.039 that he took for one semester. And this professor, it 816 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.199 turns out, reading his books and articles over forty years, 817 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.639 he completely disagreed with everything how Gore was saying about 818 00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:24.400 carbon dioxide. So this completely blows the lid off of it. Secondly, 819 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.400 I looked at I said, well, where did Gore get 820 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:30.320 this climate apocalypse from? And I realized Gore went to 821 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.159 Divinity School in Nashville to the University of Vanderbolt University 822 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.719 in nineteen seventy one to get out of the Vietnam War. 823 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.960 It was kind of a draft Dodgers Haven, and he 824 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.559 had these radical environmental professors there, and he had to 825 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:47.119 read a book called Our Plundered Planet from nineteen forties. 826 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.119 It was kind of this wacky book saying that there's 827 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.960 going to be this big climate apocalypse and humans are 828 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.920 ruining the Earth. I read this book. It turns out 829 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:59.079 that Gore plagiarized and copied this wacky book from the 830 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.559 forties to create his whole climate apocalypse. So Gore is 831 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.920 exposed as a complete fraud and where he even brought 832 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.000 this climate science to the world. And the reason I 833 00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:11.880 came up with the AI concept is because I emailed 834 00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.679 Al Gore and I said, hey, I've done the research. 835 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.679 I've looked at your Harvard professor. It turns out he 836 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:17.960 didn't agree with you at all, and I'd like to 837 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.360 interview you. Now he knows me, so he should have responded, 838 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.880 but he didn't. So I realized you could recreate the 839 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.679 voice and video of somebody today using AI technology, and 840 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:32.519 so that's what I did. So the whole movie. I'm 841 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.119 actually interviewing al Gore. It looks like Gore, it sounds 842 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.360 like Gore, but in this case he's giving an honest 843 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:41.360 depiction of his whole life history and an honest assessment 844 00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.599 of where his climate science really came from. 845 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:48.960 So the AI al Gore is truthful, is what you're saying. 846 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:49.400 Correct? 847 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.840 I put the words in his mouth, but it's really 848 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.639 it's based on reading six biographies, hundreds of interviews of 849 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.119 al Gore. It really is a lot of truth to it. 850 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.599 But he does in the end of the movie, he 851 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.199 actually fesss up about what climate science really is. That 852 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.280 it's a complete fraud. It's the same old scam to 853 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.400 convince people to agree to central planning and wealth redistribution, 854 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:14.840 things that they would never vote for. 855 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.280 It's something that in the ensuing years, even the UN 856 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.280 climate people that there was a woman who famously and 857 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.360 I cannot remember her name, Joel right now a few 858 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:30.239 years back, admitted that it really wasn't about climate change 859 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.159 at all or a climate crisis. 860 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.159 It was about redistribution of wealth. 861 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.280 I mean, in their own words, if you go deep 862 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.440 enough into the discussion with them, you get it. What 863 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:45.039 they're really all about, and it's about redistribution of wealth, 864 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.599 redistribution of power, and as you said, globalization and the 865 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:55.119 centralization of all power in one place. You know that 866 00:40:55.280 --> 00:41:00.960 is just so medieval almost as a model for the 867 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.800 way people should live. With them at the top of 868 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.039 the chain and all the rest of us, they're underlings 869 00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.639 who were going to do whatever they say because well 870 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.760 they know better now. As a former resident of the 871 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.920 state of Tennessee, when al Gore was senator in Tennessee 872 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.679 in the late nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, before his 873 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.320 run for president, before his appearance as are vice president 874 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:33.719 under Bill Clinton, I knew al Gore, I thought pretty well, 875 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:39.960 and he wasn't necessarily all that well liked by residents 876 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.840 of the volunteer state. If you look at the two 877 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.679 thousand election, it says as much about al Gore as 878 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.719 anything before that, because the residents of the state of Tennessee, 879 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.360 who knew him best, said, this man has no business 880 00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.199 being in the oval office. 881 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.280 So I mean, al Gore has. 882 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.960 Let me comment. Let me comment al Gore. 883 00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.519 You learn in this movie how al Gore got into politics. 884 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.480 It was because his father was a US senator from Tennessee. 885 00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:12.760 And his parents raised him to be president. They raised 886 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.079 him to be president. One day, Gore gets into politics 887 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.440 at age of twenty six. He runs for Congress and 888 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.159 Tennessee in nineteen seventy six. He quickly realizes that he 889 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.360 has no personality for politics. He understands he can't give 890 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.599 a speech, he has no charisma, and he can't really 891 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.320 communicate with people. So he realizes he needs issues in 892 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.400 order to get people to vote for him to fulfill 893 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.079 the ambitions of his parents to be president. So when 894 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.599 he gets to Congress, he realizes it's a center right country. 895 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.199 It's Ronald Reagan gets elected. He decides to make himself 896 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.400 an arms control expert, and he actually becomes kind of 897 00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.280 a defense hawk and a very conservative congressman and US Senator. 898 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.840 He actually puts together an arms control proposal to settle 899 00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:00.480 with the Soviet Union, and Ronald Reagan ignores that Gore 900 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.960 and wins the Cold War, you know, without him, And 901 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.639 that's when in the late eighties, Gore realized that he 902 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.440 needed a new issue in order to get to the 903 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.039 White House. So he chose environmentalism because it was a 904 00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:14.840 very strong subject for Democrat voters were concerned about the 905 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.440 Chernobyl disaster at the time exon Valdez spill, and he 906 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.760 felt environmentalism was an issue that crossed all class lines. 907 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.000 He couldn't go wrong. So that's when he decided to 908 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.000 come out with this book Earth in the Balance, where 909 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.880 he called for this climate emergency. I think I proved 910 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:33.360 in my film that he got it all from Divinity 911 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.239 School and from this wacky book he copied, and not 912 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.559 from miss Harvard professor. And by the way, you can 913 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:42.239 watch the movie trailer at climate algore dot com and 914 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.199 link up to where you can watch the movie live 915 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.159 streaming to get the DVD climate algore dot com. So 916 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.920 that's when Gore turned to environmentalism, but it was so 917 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.039 extreme that people kind of made fun of it and 918 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.760 didn't really pay attention to it. When Gore was vice 919 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.440 president with Clinton, he didn't really do very much on 920 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.079 the environment. When he ran for president again, George Bush 921 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:04.440 Gore didn't say anything about Earth and the Balance climate nothing, 922 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.079 because it was so extreme. It was only years later 923 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.039 when he came out with his film based on his 924 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.880 lecture in two thousand and six and Inconvenient Truth, that 925 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.719 these other movements kind of took over the narrative and 926 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:23.639 turned it into this big international religion where you're a believer, 927 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.440 you're not a believer. If you believe in climate science, 928 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.960 you're good. If you don't, you're heretics. So that's where 929 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.000 it kind of went into a different direction. But that's 930 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.039 how Gore came into this environmentalism. 931 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.079 How was the movie? I know that you screened this. 932 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:41.639 You did a tour in Australia, and the Australians bid into, 933 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.719 like many people in this country bid into the climate 934 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:46.880 emergency thing, hook line and sinker. 935 00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:51.840 It's much more extreme in Europe and Australia. The climate 936 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.719 policies are through the roof. They don't allow certain kinds 937 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.719 of farming, they have big restrictions. Every law that passes 938 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.440 in Australia has to first go through the Climate Committee. 939 00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:03.920 So they're much more as bad as it is here. 940 00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.960 They're much more into the hysteria in other countries. So 941 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.280 there are a lot of skeptics in Australia. And we 942 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.920 screened the film, including at their Federal Parliament building in 943 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:20.079 Canberra and all over the country Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, and 944 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.360 the reaction was tremendous. People came up to me at 945 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:25.039 the screening and they said, Wow, I feel like I 946 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.079 just got deprogrammed. So the movie really has a big 947 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:32.199 effect because there have been climate hoax movies around, but 948 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.199 it's kind of like a lecture of talking heads. This 949 00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.320 goes to look at the godfather who brought this climate 950 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.079 theory to the world, and it's Al Gore. He is 951 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.800 the most influential person I think on the world in 952 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.239 the last thirty years. 953 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:47.199 Because of it. 954 00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.320 So the question then becomes Joel, because these are being 955 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.960 debunked to not by just your documentary, but by real 956 00:45:56.119 --> 00:46:00.280 scientists that I have on this program. Quite often, Gregory writes, done, 957 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.159 for example, who's the executive director of the CO two 958 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:09.159 Coalition in Washington, d C. Steve Gorham and many who 959 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.159 wrote written books on the real science and what the 960 00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:18.360 science says about CO two and warming the warming planet, 961 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.559 the warming climate, And. 962 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.880 So I mean this is being debunked. 963 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.639 Al Gore has no political career at all ahead of him, 964 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.920 and those days were done. Why does he continue to 965 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.559 cling to this because it's become so much a part 966 00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:38.800 of how people know him, his persona, that he can't 967 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.280 let go when there is just so much evidence that 968 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:44.679 shows that. 969 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:45.199 This is all. 970 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:46.679 Yeah. 971 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.800 Look, every prediction Al Gore made beginning in the nineties 972 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.119 up through the two thousands that yes, the ice captor melting, 973 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.840 the coastal cities are going to flood. Every single prediction 974 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.599 he made turned out to be bunk. 975 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:01.679 It was all bunk. 976 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.840 And every time one of his predictions didn't come true, 977 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.920 he would simply try to change it a little bit 978 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.159 to make it true. For example, when he started in 979 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.159 ninety two with Earth in the balance, he said it 980 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:14.800 was global warming. But what happened is the Earth and 981 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.320 the winters kept getting colder year by year. So up 982 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.079 through two thousand and eight it kept getting colder. So 983 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.440 they realized that no one was buying into it, so 984 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.119 they changed the terminology to climate change instead of global warming. 985 00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.960 They say, well, it's just climate change. So to this day, 986 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.960 ever since then, even at the COP twenty nine, whatever 987 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.119 these conventions they have, Gore shows up and he screams, 988 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.119 there was one hundred and ten degree weather in Las 989 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.559 Vegas in July last year, there was a hurricane, there 990 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.280 was a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico in September, 991 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.639 screaming about natural normal weather events and claiming its represents 992 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.239 climate change. So that's what he's been doing ever since. 993 00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.960 So I mean, that's that's basically his meal ticket. I mean, 994 00:47:59.199 --> 00:47:59.639 that's all. 995 00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:03.480 He can't really admit that his entire main body of work. 996 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.480 Don't forget, as I told you, because his destiny in 997 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.079 life was to become president. When he failed at it twice, 998 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:12.519 he ran for president twice and failed, he saw being 999 00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.239 the head of this international climate movement as an even 1000 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.320 better step to fulfill his ambitions and the destiny that 1001 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.559 his parents had designed for him. So it's kind of 1002 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.639 being president of the world, president of the worldwide movement. 1003 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.480 So I think Gordon needs it psychologically. He can't admit 1004 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.119 and say I was wrong, because then it's another defeat, 1005 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.119 just like it was losing to George Bush. 1006 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:37.360 This is obviously the latest greatest from Joel Gilbert the 1007 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.679 Climate according to ai al Gore, which I just think. 1008 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.280 I still think that's such a brilliant concept, man. I 1009 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.039 got to give you, give you that, but I wanted 1010 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.239 to talk real briefly about some of the other work 1011 00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:52.039 that you've done and maybe in a sentence or two 1012 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.280 describe for people who may not have seen them. Michelle 1013 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.679 Obama twenty twenty four. 1014 00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.440 What's that I made the film called Michelle Obama twenty 1015 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:03.159 twenty four, showing that she really was positioning herself to 1016 00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.239 be the nominee. In twenty twenty four, I predicted that 1017 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.280 Biden would be removed, which he was, but I think 1018 00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:14.400 out of spite, he immediately endorsed Kamala Harris within twenty 1019 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:18.480 minutes to out maneuver the Obamas who were who held 1020 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:21.280 out for another couple of weeks for an open convention. 1021 00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.840 And I think that's how Biden kind of got his 1022 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:29.119 revenge on Obama for pushing him aside. And no one 1023 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.800 was happier that Trump won than Joe Biden when you 1024 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.440 saw when Trump came to the White House. Oh yeah, 1025 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.239 I'm also Yeah, I'm also pretty well known for Dreams 1026 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.800 for My Real Father. Yeah, where I think I proved 1027 00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:46.039 that Obama's entire background story of being the son of 1028 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.119 a Kenyan student was false. I think I proved that 1029 00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.840 his real biological father was the man who raised him 1030 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.239 in Hawaiian and Frank Marshall Davis, who was also a 1031 00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.239 Russian agent looks like him, raised him, and Obama tried 1032 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.400 to emulate him his whole life. So I've made a 1033 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.000 number of political documentaries, including Trump The Art of the Insult. 1034 00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.800 I wanted to ask you about that, and don't you 1035 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.119 find and did you find in making Trump The Art 1036 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:17.519 of the Insult that this is part of Donald Trump's 1037 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.159 power and that insults can be very, very positive if 1038 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.039 used in the right way. 1039 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:25.920 Well, I would say from this film you find out 1040 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.000 that Trump really is a marketing genius. He's a marketing guy. 1041 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.880 He's all marketing all the time, and he uses insults 1042 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.519 or giving people funny names as a way to communicate 1043 00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.880 and to market, and that's how he kind of controls 1044 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.480 the narrative, he controls the press. In twenty sixteen, he 1045 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:46.920 wiped out sixteen other competitors. He plowed through Hillary Clinton. 1046 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.119 So it's this marketing genius that other politicians don't have 1047 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.719 is what allowed him to take over the Republican Party 1048 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.639 and ultimately gain the White House now twice. 1049 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.639 Well, it is kind of a maybe I don't know 1050 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.239 if kinder, but it is kind of a gentler Donald 1051 00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:09.559 Trump we're seeing now, but he still employs this ability. 1052 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.679 I'd love the photo of him taking mccrone's hand and 1053 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:18.119 turning it over for the photo up in France. 1054 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:23.280 I love him. I love him calling Justin Trudeau the governor. 1055 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:24.440 Yeah. 1056 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.199 Look, he combined entertainment with politics. Don't forget that. Trump 1057 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.639 really wasn't a real estate guy when he got elected president. 1058 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.159 He was an entertainer. He'd been on the Apprentice for 1059 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.639 years on TV. He'd been a TV star and entertainer 1060 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.000 with Miss America and wrestling. So he brought entertainment to politics, 1061 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.440 and the other politicians just couldn't handle it. They weren't 1062 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.559 able to understand the jokes. The media couldn't understand it, 1063 00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.880 but the people understood it, and that's why he became 1064 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.920 president twice. I'm also pretty well known for the Trayvon hoax, 1065 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.039 where I showed that the case against George Zimmerman with 1066 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:03.559 Trevor Martin shooting in twenty twelve was completely politically motivated 1067 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:07.159 to help Barack Obama get reelected, and that they use 1068 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:11.039 a fake witness. People remember the hefty Haitian American girl, 1069 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:14.119 Rachel Gentel, who was two years older and one hundred 1070 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.280 and fifty pounds heavier than Trayvon. They put her up 1071 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.599 on the stand to claim that she was Trayvon's girlfriend 1072 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:21.719 who was on the phone with him. Well, I proved 1073 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.199 it was a different girl, and she's in the movie, 1074 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.239 and you show I showed that the entire black lives matter. 1075 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.800 Everything that's happened since then and was founded on that 1076 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.599 case was a complete hoax and based on witness fraud 1077 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.360 and witness tampering by Ben Crump and the State of Florida. 1078 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:42.559 Finally, and we will reiterate the newest documentary in just 1079 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.199 a moment to end up. But I may be the 1080 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.239 only person that's listening to this conversation that actually owned 1081 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:55.039 as a teenager Bob Dylan's Slow Train Coming. You had 1082 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:58.960 a documentary called Bob Dylan's Jesus Years. That's just very 1083 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.199 timely with the new Dylan movie out. 1084 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:02.360 That's right. 1085 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.679 Uh yeah, the Dylan's Uh. I've made actually five documentaries 1086 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:10.679 on Bob Dylan's career from the beginning and the religious years. 1087 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.159 When he became an evangelical Christian in the late seventies, 1088 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.880 joining the Jesus People Jesus movement, it really was as 1089 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:20.599 profound as when he went from acoustic to electric music. 1090 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.920 It really alienated his fans, but it gained new fans 1091 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.960 for him. So to this day, Dylan still performs those 1092 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.320 songs and I think audiences appreciate those religious songs now 1093 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:32.639 a lot more than they did at the time. 1094 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:34.960 It may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, 1095 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.920 but you've got to serve somebody. Joel Gilbert the climate 1096 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.559 according to ai al Gore, give me the address again 1097 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:42.079 where people can stream that jewel. 1098 00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:47.159 Yeah, go to climatealgore dot com, Climate algore dot com, 1099 00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.719 watch the trailer and you can click on where to 1100 00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:51.719 stream it in different places or get the. 1101 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.599 DVD fan ted. Thank you so much. This has been great. 1102 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.679 I really appreciate your time. You got right. 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Did you know a. 1114 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.840 Little bit, because it's just it's such a great piece 1115 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.199 of nostalgia, among other things, our next guest, I mean 1116 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.519 today he's the chief strategic officer at his Glory TV 1117 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:49.559 and has these wonderful movies that you need to know 1118 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.679 about because there has been a war on truth in 1119 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.360 this country, especially over the last four to five years, 1120 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.239 but maybe longer than that. He was he was in 1121 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.639 Ferris Bueller's Day Off as Matthew Brodericks Dance double. So, 1122 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.679 like I said, among other things, most importantly up to now, 1123 00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:11.320 Chris Bergard, how are you, sir? 1124 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:13.599 Every day is Christmas? 1125 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:14.360 Gary? 1126 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:15.000 Every day? 1127 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.920 All right? Fantas? I agree? I agree? 1128 00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:20.719 So how did that? I got to know? How did 1129 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.960 that come about? I mean, you were out in Hollywood. 1130 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.239 You were just trying to get into the business, I guess, 1131 00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:29.079 and it did spawn off several other guest roles for 1132 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:32.519 you in TV and movies as the years ensued. 1133 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:37.000 But how did Actually I was actually on scholarship in 1134 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.000 Chicago at Ruth Page Chicago Ballet and got hired to 1135 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.840 be his one of his dance doubles. And that got 1136 00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:48.360 me into the business. I worked with Kenny Ortega, who's 1137 00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.280 the choreographer, a big director that got me out to Hollywood. 1138 00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.760 Had a wonderful career in Hollywood, going from dancing to acting, 1139 00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:58.360 to writing to directing. And in two thousand and five 1140 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:00.719 I did a movie That's What. That's when God put 1141 00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.119 me on his whole other path, which is awesome. I 1142 00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.079 did a movie about the border in two thousand and 1143 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.559 five called Border, which ended up screening for Congress. 1144 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.519 I've had three films screening for Congress. 1145 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.440 Another movie about the border called Death County, the River, 1146 00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.639 Broken Dreams that I did with Tom Holman, and then 1147 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:16.559 The War in Truth. 1148 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:17.480 The War in. 1149 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.559 Truth movie is our second movie about January sixth. The 1150 00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.559 first film we did was Capital Punishment. Everything they told 1151 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:26.679 you about j six was a lie. I was there 1152 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:30.239 that day with my family, my partner, Nick Seccy, and 1153 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.280 I recognized a lot of what was going on because 1154 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.920 I had been in Central America. I'm covering an attempted 1155 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:36.559 coup down there, and I saw a lot of the 1156 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.960 same things happen on Jay six. And after we released 1157 00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.320 that movie, I didn't get an Academy Award, but I 1158 00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.159 did get investigated by the FBI as a Paris director 1159 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.440 of the United States of America, which is part of 1160 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.760 the reason why Nick and I decided to make the sequel, 1161 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:51.599 because it's like, if they're doing this to you, an 1162 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:55.280 award winning filmmaker from a law enforcement family, whose dad 1163 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.199 graduated from one hundred ninth session of the FBI Academy, 1164 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.400 what are they doing to other folks up there? 1165 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.119 And I love I love Nick Searsly too. 1166 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.719 I mean I I became a big Nick Searcy fan 1167 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.159 during the during the show Justified. 1168 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:11.559 Yeah, he's the best. 1169 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:13.559 He really is. He really is. 1170 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:17.800 All right, So, so you were you were at J six. 1171 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.599 I've talked to so many people who were there who 1172 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:27.199 were also I talked to Tim Hale, who spent almost 1173 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.559 three years in prison just because he was at the 1174 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:33.840 Capitol that day, and all of the other things that 1175 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.960 have come out since, and and there's still a slow trickle. 1176 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.199 You want to talk about The War on Truth, which 1177 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:45.320 is the latest documentary. Tell tell me a little bit 1178 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.320 more about the War on Truth and we'll get back 1179 00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:48.639 to J six after that. 1180 00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:53.440 Well, The War on Truth was our follow up movie 1181 00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.079 to January sixth, and it's it's such a dangerous movie 1182 00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:59.719 to the false narrative out there, because. 1183 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.199 When you show people the truth, they believe it. 1184 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.159 That's why Capital Punishment is the most censored movie of 1185 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:06.920 twenty twenty two, and arguably Warren Truth has been the 1186 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.199 most censored movie of twenty twenty four. We not only 1187 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:14.079 show how the government is persecuting Americans of all shapes, 1188 00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.840 all sizes, of all colors, but particularly how they're going 1189 00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.239 after Christians for san empton speaking the truth. You'll see 1190 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:24.199 that when you see people like Master Sergeant Jeremy Brown, 1191 00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:28.440 when you see former law enforcement officer Colt Macabee in 1192 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.199 prison for over two years awaiting before they even got 1193 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:35.320 their first trial. But then you also see how this 1194 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.800 was a psychological operation run with military precision. We even 1195 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.639 lay out and put out there should there ever be 1196 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.719 a real investigation to January sixth, who the players were 1197 00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.000 and how what happened in Ukraine in twenty fourteen, and 1198 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.960 the taker of that government was actually address rehearsal for. 1199 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.280 What happened on January sixth? 1200 00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:55.360 Do you believe me? 1201 00:58:56.760 --> 00:59:02.159 I'm sorry, Chris, do you believe as I do that 1202 00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:06.599 when he was testifying this past week, I guess last 1203 00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:10.400 week Christopher Ray when he said there were no undercover 1204 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:16.239 agents from the FBI at January sixth. There were confidential 1205 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:21.159 human sources or resources. But do you believe that there 1206 00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:25.400 were actually undercover agents from the FBI that involved in 1207 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.679 inciting that crowd and ginning up the sky out. 1208 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.199 Agents, consultants, contractors. I believe they had all three of those. 1209 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:35.559 And Christopher Ray. 1210 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:41.559 Misrepresenting the truth to Congress goes way back. And we 1211 00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:45.360 filmed people changing out of black block clothes on January 1212 00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.239 sixth into Trump support of clothes. 1213 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:49.880 And then they tried to get us to attack the 1214 00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.039 Capitol Police. We called them out. We filmed it, calling 1215 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.400 them out as infiltrators. 1216 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.000 I ran into FBI agents on the ground that day 1217 00:59:58.039 --> 00:59:59.639 and I said, hey, you got bad guys over here? 1218 01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:01.719 To point them out to you. No, we're good. 1219 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.280 Well, these these folks are trying to get us to 1220 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:05.440 attack the Capitol police. 1221 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.480 I have them on film. Would you like those images 1222 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.679 or do you want to make a report? No, we're good. 1223 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.079 So that day in January sixth, I thought, Okay, they've 1224 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.360 got this handled. When I saw they didn't have it handled. 1225 01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:16.519 And a few weeks later for Chris Ray to come 1226 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.639 out and say, and this is the one of several 1227 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.880 times he said this to Congress unsworn testimony, that we 1228 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.559 saw no evidence of ANTIFA or BLM or anarchist type 1229 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:30.599 organizations infiltrated in the crowds that day. Okay, that's just 1230 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.760 that's just false. We saw them. My three letter buddies 1231 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:35.840 saw them. My military buddies were that day. We all 1232 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.280 saw them. We filmed them, they filmed themselves, and in 1233 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:42.519 the case of John Sullivan in the Capitol, filmed himself 1234 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.000 bragging about it, about about setting the whole thing up. 1235 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.280 So that's patently false. And here's here's what people need 1236 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.559 to take a look about. Everybody needs to go see 1237 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:54.239 the movie The War on Truth. But if you haven't, 1238 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.679 let me just I can explain to you right now 1239 01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.239 how the cover up always gets them, and how the 1240 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.360 lies can and on what a huge level it is 1241 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.760 to push the false narrative of January sixth. You've heard, 1242 01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.719 even up until a few months ago. You've heard Joe Biden, 1243 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.559 you've heard the mainstream media, you've heard the DOJ, you've 1244 01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:15.400 heard the FBI repeat over and over. Five law enforcement 1245 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.639 officers died on January sixth. 1246 01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:21.920 That is a complete fallacy. Officer Brian sick Nick. Everyone 1247 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:22.920 we talked to he was a. 1248 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.159 Hect of a guy where sorry, he's passed, but he 1249 01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.199 passed with natural causes. On the seventh he did not 1250 01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.320 die from being bludged to death with a fire extinguisher. 1251 01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.880 By MAGA supporters. And the other four officers. 1252 01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.320 That died died of suicides week and months later. 1253 01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:39.639 That's the truth. 1254 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.519 So you have to ask yourself, why would they say 1255 01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.079 a lie like that over and over and over. Well, 1256 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.800 there's a great guy named Joseph Gebels when they wrote 1257 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.840 the prophaganda playbook for a guy named Hitler. He said, 1258 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.679 if you make the lie big enough and you tell 1259 01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:56.039 it often enough, it becomes truth to the state and 1260 01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:59.000 thus to the people. By everybody believed in this line, 1261 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.159 no one's paying attention. And four people that died that 1262 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.639 day were Trump supporters. What was actually about? She was shot, 1263 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.760 another one, Roseanne Boyling, was unconscious and then according was 1264 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:09.880 beaten three more times. 1265 01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:11.719 We have that on film, and according to. 1266 01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:14.320 Eyewitnesses that were there, they said that the third blow 1267 01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:19.840 from Officer Island Morris is what killed Roseanne. And then 1268 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.360 you have the two fellows that died of Benjamin Phillips 1269 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.679 and Kevin Greeson that died of heart attacks. You'll see 1270 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:26.800 in the War on Truth. One of these guys is 1271 01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:30.079 just standing there, not mind his own business. I'm away 1272 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.199 from the Capitol, on the far side of the protests, 1273 01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:35.360 and they launched a flash bang all over the crowd, 1274 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.159 hits him in the chest, explodes. The guy next to 1275 01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.960 him screams, turns away, his face is burned. And this 1276 01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.960 other fellow goes down and his heart stops. And the 1277 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:47.840 next time you see him, he's being on a gurney, 1278 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.199 wheeled out and he dies of a heart attack. Right, 1279 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.360 these are the things that need to be investigated. These 1280 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.880 are the things that the American people needs to know. And 1281 01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:57.239 you haven't known that because we've just been hit with 1282 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:01.519 propaganda for four years, and the War on Truth ties 1283 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:06.559 everything together and you not only see to the curtain, 1284 01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:10.599 but you understand that this is a psychological operation run. 1285 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:11.480 With military precision. 1286 01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:17.960 And as former Capitol Police Lieutenant Tariq Johnson says, on 1287 01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:22.719 that day, everybody on the ground, Capitol Police and MAGA supporters, 1288 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.920 we were set up. We were all set up. And 1289 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.039 if we have time, I'll explain to you how he 1290 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:29.079 changed that data. 1291 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:32.119 Now we've got plenty of time, Chris, go ahead talking 1292 01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:37.079 to Chris Burgard, who is number one chief strategic officer 1293 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.480 at his glory, and we'll talk about that organization too 1294 01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.519 before we're done. Christ the movie Capital Punishment, everything they 1295 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.760 told you about Jay six was a lie and it's SEQEL, 1296 01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:51.079 which is out now called the War on Truth, and 1297 01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:52.840 please continue. 1298 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:55.719 You were on a line then you said, if we 1299 01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.679 have time, So here's the time. 1300 01:03:57.559 --> 01:03:59.360 Chris, thank you, sir. 1301 01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.800 Is bad as January sixth was, and for as many 1302 01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:07.599 people that died, I believe, and you'll see in the 1303 01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:11.360 movie that the people that orchestrated this event wanted many, 1304 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:12.559 many more people to die. 1305 01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:14.920 And here's what happened that screwed that up. 1306 01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:16.440 Two things. 1307 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:20.280 First of all, they had intelligence coming in from many 1308 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:23.440 different organizations saying how big the crowd. 1309 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.159 Was going to be, saying they might be problems. You'll 1310 01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:26.920 see in the movie. 1311 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:31.199 That intelligence was held up by a woman named Yoganata Pittman, 1312 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:36.119 who was an assistant captain to Capitol Police that day. 1313 01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.199 And the rules of engagement for the Capitol Police to 1314 01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:42.280 use deadly force is that if you were defending bodies. 1315 01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.599 If you're defending senators, if you're defending congressmen, that you 1316 01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:49.840 can use deadly force to protect them. But if it's 1317 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:52.840 only real estate, if it's just property, you're not allowed 1318 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:53.800 to use deadly force. 1319 01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:56.280 So here's what happened on January sixth. 1320 01:04:57.599 --> 01:04:59.960 Things are out of hand, the breach starts, and there's 1321 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.800 a lieutenant named Tarik Johnson. He sees that there's going 1322 01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.039 to be a problem. He radio is in and asked 1323 01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:13.000 for permission to clear the house floor and clear the 1324 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.480 Senate chambers. And he's on there asking for about twenty 1325 01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:18.679 minutes and he doesn't get a reply back. He doesn't 1326 01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:21.199 get a reply back. That's not normal. You asked he 1327 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:23.239 sent something up to change. They say yes, they say no, 1328 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.079 you do your job, especially there's something this big happening. 1329 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.639 So what Tarik does is on his own, he makes 1330 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.840 the call to evacuate the Senate chambers and after he 1331 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.920 gets that done, he goes to evacuate the floor of Congress. 1332 01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:41.719 That changed the rules of engagement. If he would have 1333 01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.119 gotten permission to do this about twenty minutes earlier, or 1334 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:49.760 if Yogan out of Pittman would have given the order 1335 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.519 that they would have been able to do him simultaneously 1336 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.880 clear the Senate and the House. Ashley Babbitt would still 1337 01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.800 be alive because the rules of engagement would have changed. 1338 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.920 Lieutenant Bird would not have had the authority to fire 1339 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:06.599 in anybody, let alone an un armed five ft three, 1340 01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:08.000 one hundred and sixteen pound woman. 1341 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.400 If Tarik would have done this. 1342 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:16.000 Ten fifteen minutes later, when the majority of those people 1343 01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:20.039 came through and went in the chambers, they would have 1344 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:22.559 been met with deadly force, and you would have had, 1345 01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.719 I don't know, it would have been a blood death, 1346 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.559 and you would have had American blood. 1347 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.480 Running down the halls of Congress. And I believe one 1348 01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.920 hundred and ten percent of my heart and soul. 1349 01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:36.559 That that was the plan of the people that planned 1350 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:37.360 January sixth. 1351 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:38.880 That's what they wanted to have happened. 1352 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:41.320 Is uh? 1353 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:46.480 Is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer both complicit in what 1354 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:48.039 happened on January sixth? 1355 01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:49.760 It goes bigger than that. 1356 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:51.559 But I'll tell you something that you'll see in the 1357 01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:53.519 war truth that Nancy Pelosi did. 1358 01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:56.679 There's a congressman here from I live in Texas. 1359 01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:58.880 We have a congressman out here, Troy Nells Troynills is 1360 01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:02.039 an old war dog, a decorated military then he was 1361 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.039 a sheriff for years before he came a congressman. 1362 01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:07.559 So when Troy, now, this is a guy who. 1363 01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:08.679 Knows how to run an investigation. 1364 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.079 When he started running his own investigation, investigating the false 1365 01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.159 narrative of J six and started speaking out about it, 1366 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.159 his office was raided by the Capitol Police, who answered 1367 01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:21.559 at the time to Nancy Pelosi. 1368 01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:23.440 His office was rated over. 1369 01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.480 A Thanksgiving weekend when they thought no one was going 1370 01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.440 to be there, and they were caught by a staffer. 1371 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.400 Who didn't take off for the for the vacation, and 1372 01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:34.760 they came in there. This is this is like this 1373 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.320 is this is like, you know. 1374 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.559 Crazy old stuff. They they came in there dressed as 1375 01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:44.920 construction workers and maintenance fellas, and they got caught. And 1376 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.159 what Troy believes is the reason they did that was 1377 01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:49.360 to get blackmail evidence on him to try to shut 1378 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:51.599 him up so he wouldn't speak out against the false 1379 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:56.119 Jay six narrative. That's that's that's that's more than implicit. 1380 01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:59.320 That's being part of an active cover up. But it 1381 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:02.079 is I think goes bigger and deeper than just Pelosi 1382 01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.719 and Schumer. I mean this thing, like I said, you 1383 01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:07.559 have to take a look at this and see how 1384 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:10.119 deep it goes and see who's calling the shots, and 1385 01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:14.960 we lay out people that need to be investigated. You 1386 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.680 need to look into the players that were behind what 1387 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.760 we did in Ukraine in twenty fourteen, and you need 1388 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:22.479 to see if some of those same players who we 1389 01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:26.439 name in the movie, what their actions were leading up 1390 01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:30.720 to and on January sixth. It's an intelligence operation run 1391 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:31.880 with military precision. 1392 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:37.239 It's no wonder that Joe did as we all expected, 1393 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:41.479 pardoning his son, But going back to twenty fourteen, when 1394 01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:46.920 guess who was in Ukraine and getting money from Barisma 1395 01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:50.720 and then funneling it back through to his father and 1396 01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:54.880 family members and the like. So yeah, I mean, you 1397 01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:59.920 talk about all this stuff that's going on under the 1398 01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.720 radar of most Americans, and you know a lot of Americans, sadly, Chris, 1399 01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:08.439 are headline readers, and they don't see anything. They don't 1400 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:11.720 dig any deeper. You know, they don't have the time 1401 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:15.600 to dig into something as important as this, like you 1402 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:19.359 have done with the War on Truth. Real quickly, tell 1403 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.520 me how people can see war on truth. 1404 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:25.760 Just go to the War on truthmovie dot com, The 1405 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:30.079 War ontruthmovie dot Com. And we looks like we're going 1406 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:32.600 to be released in a whole mini series on January sixth. 1407 01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:37.359 The people need to see, but people need to understand 1408 01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:39.359 what you just brought up with those pardons. I mean, 1409 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.319 we need to end a segment. But you can't have 1410 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:44.960 it both ways. You can't stand up and say these 1411 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.079 people are innocent. They're innocent, and then turn around and go, 1412 01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:50.760 I'm gonna give them a preemptive pardon. Going back to 1413 01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:55.359 twenty fourteen, I don't care what your politics are. That's 1414 01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:56.960 an admission of guilt right there. 1415 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.640 Well, my politics are since you said you don't know, 1416 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.239 and I don't have to offer this to you, but 1417 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:07.840 my politics are. If I had been at the Capitol 1418 01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:10.720 on January sixth, I probably would have been locked up too. 1419 01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:17.800 Well, it we laid out in Capital Punishment how an 1420 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.439 intelligence operation like this works. You don't have to compromise 1421 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.680 every one of the two million people that were at 1422 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:24.680 the protest that day. 1423 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:27.319 You just need to grab take control of the head. 1424 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.119 It's called a captured operation, and just by putting it in 1425 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.439 a couple hundred infiltrators and everybody's talking about the FBI 1426 01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.960 and their assets. No one's talking about the DHS agents 1427 01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:38.159 that were in there, or the DEA agents, or the 1428 01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:42.600 military guys or the intelligence contractors. There was a whole 1429 01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.119 lot of bad guys in there that day, and they 1430 01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:45.600 were filmed. 1431 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:46.319 They're on camera. 1432 01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:49.359 Why do you think they still haven't released all the 1433 01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:51.319 forty thousand hours of footage? 1434 01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:54.880 Back to the Well, God, God bless you for the 1435 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.920 work you're doing, Chris, and thank you very much the 1436 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.319 war ontruth dot com, Chris. 1437 01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:02.279 Virgo warmovie dot com. 1438 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:06.479 Warntruthmovie dot com. Thank you so much, Chris. God bless you, 1439 01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:10.239 God bless you. Take care. Another hour of the night 1440 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.239 Cap just ahead on seven hundred WLW. 1441 01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:16.079 When do you like to listen to Scott's loan? I 1442 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.319 like to listen to Sloaney at work. It's so much 1443 01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:20.560 better than listening to my boss. Why can't bosses be 1444 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:21.279 more like Sloony? 1445 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:24.039 Slooney is loaded with common sense and then my boss 1446 01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:25.680 is loaded with bs. 1447 01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.439 And Sloney is fun. Bosses aren't fun. Our bosses ought 1448 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.520 to learn from Sloany. Slooney ought to have a special 1449 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.359 be a better boss show. Hey, come on, I'm a 1450 01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:34.800 good boss with common sense, aren't I? No, not really. 1451 01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.960 Scott's loan Untilmorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW 1452 01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.319 and check out his podcast. 1453 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:42.439 On the free iHeartRadio app. 1454 01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:46.000 United Dairy Farmers is your one stop shop or lest 1455 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:49.000 minute gifts, Yeah, gift guards to Olive Garden, home Depot, 1456 01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:50.880 Amazon and more brand names. 1457 01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:53.560 Spend one hundred dollars on select Gifficult. 1458 01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:57.560 Evening into our last hour tonight, and if the rest 1459 01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:00.479 of the show hasn't been good enough for you, well 1460 01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.640 just wait. There's a whole lot more to come, including 1461 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.800 our next guest, who's a paramedic and military veteran who 1462 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:12.560 has seen the truth up close and personal as a paramedic. 1463 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.279 And the truth I'm talking about is the truth about 1464 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.840 that we're not being told by Pfizer and the pharmaceutical 1465 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:25.279 companies and up to this point, by the DEA or 1466 01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:31.840 the FDA about safe and effective vax genes. I call 1467 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:36.920 them vax genes because they're not vaccines, speaking specifically of 1468 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:41.800 mRNA and the COVID nineteen jabs. But this guy has 1469 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:50.000 seen it up close and for himself. What happens and 1470 01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.439 what happened to all of our country as a result 1471 01:12:53.479 --> 01:13:01.359 of the lockdowns, the distancing, and then the forced vaccination 1472 01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.319 of people by by both scare tactics and by coercion 1473 01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:09.039 of you're going to lose your job and and everything else. 1474 01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:12.439 Harry Fisher is our guest in this half hour. Harry, 1475 01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:12.880 how are you. 1476 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.720 I'm doing well, Sarah. Thank you for having me on. 1477 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:16.520 I appreciate it. 1478 01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:20.960 So what moved you to, uh, to be involved with 1479 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.279 this safe and effective for profit of paramedic story exposing 1480 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.000 American genocide? 1481 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:28.279 Well, I was, I was. 1482 01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:29.880 You're basically going to be reading a lot of my 1483 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.159 journal in there, because I've just I've been journaling and 1484 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:36.239 trying to post information out on you know, uh, social media, 1485 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:38.520 but I've been banned and censored like anyone else who's 1486 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.079 tried to speak since the start of all this. From 1487 01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:43.640 the from the start, though, I noticed the media was 1488 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:45.720 lying when they were telling, you know, the entire world 1489 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.640 that we were swamped over run during COVID, because predominantly 1490 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:49.119 we weren't. 1491 01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:50.399 It's slowed down during COVID. 1492 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.199 People weren't going out, we weren't running kids, you know, 1493 01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:56.800 kids and stuff like calls on kids often until the 1494 01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:59.680 shots started rolling out. Then our children's hospital got busy, 1495 01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.760 and about the time they started really hitting the public 1496 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.640 with this gene therapy, the experimental COVID vaccines, I got 1497 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:10.159 a call to a Pfiser line. I call them Pfiser lines, 1498 01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:13.119 you know those makeshift lines that they posted up in 1499 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:17.119 gymnasiums and you know, the street corners wherever they were 1500 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:18.880 wanting to give the shots. And I got a call 1501 01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:22.359 to one of those, the Pfiser one, and a person 1502 01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:25.039 had died after taking their shot. I was working the code, 1503 01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:26.640 you know, I got in. I got in there, started 1504 01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.760 working the code, doing CPR. People were watching, and the 1505 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.119 nurse came over and said, this is the second one 1506 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:37.000 in two weeks. So in that one makeshift line in Oklahoma, 1507 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.840 two people that I know of died after taking their shot. 1508 01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:42.800 And none of this made front made the news. None 1509 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.439 of it even made local news. So there's no telling 1510 01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.119 how many across the board have actually died right after 1511 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:49.000 taking their shots. 1512 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:53.119 Well, it's it's so amazing. The whole COVID thing. I 1513 01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.359 called it the scam demic, not the PAN. I called 1514 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.640 it the scam deemic from the very beginning. Other people 1515 01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:05.159 have called it the planned where you had the NIH 1516 01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:08.880 and FAUCI and all of the rest of those what 1517 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:14.319 I consider to be criminals in charge of America's health decisions. 1518 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:22.359 And we know that hospitals were incentivized. In fact, they 1519 01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:26.640 were told list as many deaths as COVID death as possible, 1520 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.159 so you can stir this fear and mobilize people to 1521 01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:37.119 follow the directives of the lockdowns and the seclusion and 1522 01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:42.720 then get the jab. So, I mean, do you know 1523 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:47.439 anything personally about the incentivization of big hospital groups to 1524 01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:51.880 declare somebody as a COVID death when actually they died 1525 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.039 of something entirely different. They may have had the virus, 1526 01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:57.680 but they did not die of COVID nineteen. But this 1527 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.359 was just meant to defy the flames and to get 1528 01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:05.319 people ready for this vaxed gene that they already had 1529 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:06.800 in the in the works. 1530 01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:11.680 Well, I know they definitely had incentives they they we 1531 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:13.960 would I worked in New York City. We would put 1532 01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.159 they would vent people pretty quick, and sadly, when people 1533 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:20.000 would die of COVID, I was told they would get 1534 01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:22.239 up to, you know, an extra forty thousand dollars. I 1535 01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:24.000 never did the paperwork on that, but I was just 1536 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:26.840 hearing about it in the hospital and hearing people talk 1537 01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:29.840 about it, I would try to coach my patients. I 1538 01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.479 would try to tell them, you know, you don't want 1539 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:33.720 to be on the vents, just relax because as soon. 1540 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:35.680 As we would start, as soon as the patient would. 1541 01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.640 Start feeling anxiety, the doctors would want to give them 1542 01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:39.640 anxiety medication. 1543 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:42.079 And nine times out of ten, the patient would start 1544 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:43.000 to what we call crump. 1545 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:46.359 They would start to go downhill and then they would 1546 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:48.279 be then they would be vented, and then they would die, 1547 01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:49.920 and then we would be putting them in a body bag. 1548 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.640 So it was it was I would try to get 1549 01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:55.119 the patients to just relax through it and not not 1550 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:57.960 get anxiety and not go down that road. Most that 1551 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.760 didn't get vented would walk out of the hospitt the 1552 01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.279 ones that got into most of them died. 1553 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:05.079 Yeah, it was a very second time. 1554 01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:09.640 They said once once you were innovated, once you were ventilated, 1555 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:11.439 that that that was the end. 1556 01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.159 Of the line. Why why do you think that was 1557 01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:15.760 the protocol. 1558 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.680 When when people were having trouble with respiratory conditions in 1559 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:24.039 the hospitals. What made that the standard of care? 1560 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.800 Well, there's something that I don't talk about it often 1561 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:30.439 because for some reason the world doesn't talk about this, 1562 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:33.159 but in my opinion, they should if you ever get 1563 01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.439 time to look up the mystery of happy hypoxia during 1564 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.159 COVID nineteen. Something we were experiencing during COVID nineteen were 1565 01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:44.560 people with really low oxygen saturations. The people who were 1566 01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:48.479 literally satting forty to fifty percent, which is ungodly low. 1567 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.239 It's extreme, but the people were acting normal. 1568 01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:54.520 We called it happy hypoxia because they acted happy, they 1569 01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:56.800 acted fine, they acted normal, which is something that I've 1570 01:17:56.840 --> 01:17:59.800 never seen before in my entire life, and I had 1571 01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:01.640 I'm not seen it so many times myself. 1572 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.439 I wouldn't believe you because. 1573 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.319 Like me and you talking to each other right now, 1574 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.479 we're probably satting ninety five to one hundred percent. Someone 1575 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.800 who SATs in the low eighties, mid seventies, they're gonna 1576 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.079 have trouble talking, if not passing out. 1577 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:15.560 You know. 1578 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:20.079 By that time in the seventies, these people were low fifties, 1579 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:24.039 sometimes forties, you know, sometimes sixties, and just looking normal, 1580 01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:28.039 not turning blue, talking normal, no word dismia. But our 1581 01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.560 protocols when we get into the hospital and those people 1582 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.159 were satting those SATs and acting anxious. Our protocols, our 1583 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:38.359 rigid protocols, would treat the machine rather than the patient, 1584 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:41.680 which is something an old medic like me, I know. 1585 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.119 Don't treat the machine. Treat your patient. You know my 1586 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.800 machine saying, oh my gosh, you're setting fifty percent. I'm 1587 01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:49.640 gonna look at the patient, and if the patient's talking 1588 01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:51.920 to me about their dogs, I'm not gonna throw a 1589 01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.600 tube down their throat. But if you get into these 1590 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.840 hospitals where not only are they incentivized to put the 1591 01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.039 tube down your throat, but look at the machines and 1592 01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:03.239 their blood gases, and it's saying low SATs. 1593 01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:04.560 They're going to follow their. 1594 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.680 Rigid protocols, and those rigid protocols murdered a lot of people. 1595 01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:12.640 Talking to Harry Fisher, author Safe and Effective for Profit, 1596 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:19.039 a paramedic story exposing American genocide, you don't. You can't 1597 01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:22.399 look inside the wretched hearts of the people that plan this. 1598 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:25.560 You can't. I can't either. We can't look into their 1599 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.359 minds or their hearts, Harry. But what do you think 1600 01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.960 the real purpose of it all was? Was it just 1601 01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:37.079 so so people like Fauci could profit from the royalties 1602 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:40.479 they were getting from Pfizer and Maderna and the others. 1603 01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.960 Was it just for profit or where there was something 1604 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.880 deeper and darker at play here that they conducted this 1605 01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:52.279 sy op on on American citizens and on the world. 1606 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.800 I'm a I'm a christ follower, so I believe there's 1607 01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.000 a There is definitely an opposite of Christ. 1608 01:19:58.039 --> 01:19:59.000 I believe there's. 1609 01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:02.319 A an evil out there and some some I would 1610 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.880 say few truly know that they follow that evil. So so, 1611 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.399 say there's a pyramid, and at the top of that pyramid, 1612 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:12.479 there's a few really bad evil people that know all 1613 01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:13.039 this bad. 1614 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:14.520 Stuff's happening, and they're pushing for it. 1615 01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:16.880 I would say that people closer to the bottom of 1616 01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.520 the pyramid in the middle are doing it for profit, 1617 01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:21.960 which are in itself a bunch of you know, really 1618 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:22.600 evil people. 1619 01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:23.399 But most of them. 1620 01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:26.920 Are unknowingly following the big bad. And that's what most 1621 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:29.680 people are these days. They're unknowingly following the big bad. 1622 01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.640 Just like an abortion, abortion being murder. Yes, we'll tell 1623 01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.520 someone as a normal person, Hey, abortion's murder. They're gonna 1624 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.560 go No, it's a choice. Well, most people truly believe 1625 01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:40.399 it's a choice. 1626 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:41.079 Not murder. 1627 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:43.960 They they'll go with that word because the world is 1628 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.000 what they're bought into. 1629 01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:46.680 They're not bought into reality. 1630 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:48.840 And the people at the top the say, there's a 1631 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:50.920 handful of people at the top that are truly demonic, 1632 01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:55.000 truly evil. They they know that it's that it's for 1633 01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:58.199 the greater evil, not the greater good. The people at 1634 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:00.880 the bottom are convinced that they're they're following the greater good. 1635 01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:03.720 It's a pretty good explanation. 1636 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:06.520 And I tend to agree with you as a Christ 1637 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:14.880 follower myself. Do you think that the truth? I believe 1638 01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:18.479 that the truth always comes out eventually. And do you 1639 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:22.840 hope that this book of yours and so many other 1640 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:26.479 people now coming forward because so many people were canceled 1641 01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:33.640 by the pushers of m RNA gene therapy and profit. 1642 01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:39.880 And I mean, is the truth gonna set us free soon? 1643 01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:43.279 Harry, That's a good question. 1644 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.560 I mean, it's twenty twenty four and just weeks ago 1645 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.279 I was fired from my most recent contract for not 1646 01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:51.880 wanting to give the COVID vaccines and my online presence 1647 01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:55.359 speaking out against it. I've got another job that I'm starting, 1648 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:57.640 so I'm not I haven't taken my license, but they 1649 01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:59.000 definitely can make it hard to work. 1650 01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:00.600 And that's current now. 1651 01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.800 If you're standing against these vaccines, I think there's going 1652 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:05.479 to be a divide. I think we can already see 1653 01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:08.239 the divide. We've got a division in healthcare workers. We've 1654 01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:10.880 got a division. Some hospitals demand it, some hospitals don't, 1655 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.600 depending on who's in the HR departments, who's working there. 1656 01:22:14.119 --> 01:22:17.239 I think we'll have a great divide that's completely obvious. 1657 01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:20.600 And in that divide, we'll start to split as a nation. 1658 01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:27.560 And then they'll probably be conflict. Oh okay, I mean 1659 01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:28.960 I don't want it to be, but I mean you 1660 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.720 can't be. You can't have one sye trying to kill 1661 01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:32.720 the other for too long. 1662 01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:37.760 Before, Harry, my biggest, my biggest concern really now is 1663 01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:41.680 that the truth is leaking out here and there. They 1664 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:46.560 try to censor it. There's they're having less success and censoring. Although, 1665 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.760 like you said, you just lost a gig and uh, 1666 01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:53.479 you know, but for for your online posts and for 1667 01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:57.199 your stance on not giving the gene therapy that they 1668 01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:59.800 are telling you to do. That we're all being told 1669 01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.239 to do by Pfizer and their TV ads and they 1670 01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.439 you know, and they certainly are making plenty of money 1671 01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:08.680 to continue to push the poison as I like to say, yes, 1672 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:14.560 but uh, my concern is that some people will just 1673 01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:17.840 go now, that's that's old news, that's old hat. 1674 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.119 Why don't you just give it up? 1675 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.279 Look, I'm fine, I got the JAB and everything's okay, 1676 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:28.000 everything's unky dory. I mean, why why are you still 1677 01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:31.840 pushing this narrative, and why are you still pushing anti 1678 01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:36.119 anti gene therapy messages and what? Why don't you just 1679 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.920 live your life and and go on, you know, let's 1680 01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.720 move on. That's that's the biggest thing that I think 1681 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.600 a lot of people are doing when they hear discussions 1682 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:46.399 like ours. 1683 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:49.239 They definitely are until they lose a loved one. And 1684 01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.720 like I have friends, I have friends who've lost their children. 1685 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:54.119 I have I have friends that are currently dying of 1686 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:55.520 Oregon failure. 1687 01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:57.920 People. Most there aren't that. 1688 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:00.680 Many true what they like to call anti v Like me, 1689 01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:03.479 most most people took this shot. I would say, what 1690 01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:07.560 seventy percent of the popular world's population took this vaccine 1691 01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:10.720 or this gene therapy. The people that are anti vaxxers 1692 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:14.119 now are vaccine injured. The vaccine injured is what makes 1693 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:16.359 up most of the anti vaxxing movement. At this point, 1694 01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:19.119 when I started off speaking, I was a lone person 1695 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:22.319 out here with maybe you know a handful of others 1696 01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:25.800 from the doctor McCullough to Mary Sally Bowden's that we 1697 01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:27.840 were all sort of like getting kicked into a corner together. 1698 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:29.359 That's how I met all these people that are now 1699 01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.680 my friends. Now the movement is huge because most of 1700 01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.199 them are injured themselves. Why I won't stop speaking, It's 1701 01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:38.840 because people are getting injured realizing it, and they're needing 1702 01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:41.039 someone to help them, someone to talk to, someone to 1703 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:43.520 stand for them. There's there's people that are dead now 1704 01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.560 that can't speak, so they need a voice, and that's 1705 01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:47.279 what we do. That's what I do, is try to 1706 01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.399 speak up for the people that can't speak well. 1707 01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:53.079 I've been very vocal about I work for this large 1708 01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:57.159 corporation and at one time when Biden was declaring that 1709 01:24:57.199 --> 01:24:59.840 if you had a company with one hundred employees or more, 1710 01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.439 they all had to get vaxed or lose their job. 1711 01:25:02.760 --> 01:25:05.840 And the second debt came out, I said, well, I 1712 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:07.920 may or may not be with you in a couple 1713 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:12.279 of months, whenever this kicks in, and thank god the 1714 01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:16.319 Supreme Court and Court stepped in and said, no, that's unconstitutional, 1715 01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:19.079 you can't require that. But I think about all of 1716 01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:21.680 the people in the military and all of the people 1717 01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:28.479 government contractors who were forced to either stand up for 1718 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:32.279 what they believed or lose their gigs and lose their job, 1719 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.560 or just go along with the sheep. I never got 1720 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:40.279 one job, not once. Neither did my wife. We vowed 1721 01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.159 we weren't going to do it, and to this day 1722 01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:47.840 we are still mRNA free in my household. And I said, 1723 01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.359 I've been very vocal that they haven't shut me up yet, 1724 01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:52.359 so I don't know when that day is coming. 1725 01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:56.279 Harriet, I'm glad, thank you for standing up for humanity. 1726 01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.119 It's few and far between these days. And I'm truly 1727 01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:01.800 appreciative of what you've done and what you continue to do, 1728 01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:02.760 because it's it. 1729 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:04.119 It's at great risks you. 1730 01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:06.600 If you're anything like the rest of us, which I'm 1731 01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:08.520 sure you are. In the time, they tried to ostracize, 1732 01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:11.319 you demonize it, you call you crazy, and standing against 1733 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:14.960 it has required a faith like I never thought I had. 1734 01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:17.520 And that's that's faith in God. And if if not 1735 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:19.680 for that faith, I would have fallen into madness a 1736 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:22.720 long time ago, especially witnessing the death firsthand. Because when 1737 01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:25.640 you're when you're running young strokes that you've never ran before, 1738 01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:28.720 these young kids that are just falling out playing kickball, 1739 01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.640 having a stroke, and their parents telling you they just 1740 01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.359 had the vaccine, and watching the parents realize they've harmed 1741 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:38.079 their kids. This is this is a darkness that I've 1742 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:41.760 never wanted to witness firsthand. And it takes lights like 1743 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.239 you and and other people that are willing to stand 1744 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.199 and shine in your light into the darkness to make 1745 01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:48.960 this go away. And I'm praying we can do that 1746 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.640 before there ever is conflict, because I said the worst 1747 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:54.680 case scenario earlier a division and conflict, and that's what 1748 01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:58.720 happens over history. And unless we can somehow stand up 1749 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:02.640 and shine that light and come together as a nation, 1750 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.279 than we're destined to repeat ourselves. 1751 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.640 Harry Fisher, thank you so much for your time tonight, 1752 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.079 and God bless you for your work and getting the 1753 01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:15.800 word out. Save and Effective for Profit a paramedic story 1754 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:20.840 exposing American genocide during what I have called since April 1755 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.479 of twenty twenty, the scamdemic. 1756 01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:25.399 Even with everything I know. 1757 01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.039 I'm bolder than I ever have been and it's because 1758 01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:33.279 of people like you on the front lines. 1759 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:35.439 Harry, thank you so much for your time this evening. 1760 01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:36.960 Thank you brother. 1761 01:27:37.039 --> 01:27:40.600 Have a good day all right, you too, God bless Wow. 1762 01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:46.640 So the Expose a show, the Nightcap continues just ahead. 1763 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:52.239 How about jf How about JFK the assassination? Can we 1764 01:27:52.279 --> 01:27:55.359 revisit that one more time? A guy who has done 1765 01:27:55.359 --> 01:28:01.039 that as co author of the JFK Assassination choke Holds, 1766 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:04.800 will join us at the bottom of the hour afternoons. 1767 01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:12.239 This is the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Mike McConnell, 1768 01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:13.960 here was something for you to think about. 1769 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:16.600 If you miss my show, you can listen to the 1770 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:19.760 Mike mcconnell' podcast on the iHeartRadio app and catch what 1771 01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:23.680 you missed. However, if the shark attacks and eat your foot, 1772 01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:27.199 that foot's gone forever. So take my advice, listen to 1773 01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:30.560 the Mike McConnell's podcast and stay out of the ocean. 1774 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:34.920 Which there are several people contributing to this, and the 1775 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:39.640 questions abound. What happened November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, 1776 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:43.680 and in the aftermath of the assassination of the President 1777 01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:45.600 of the United States. 1778 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:48.199 Who was involved? Why do we not know more? 1779 01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:52.760 Why have we been fed this narrative of a loan shooter, 1780 01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:59.560 confirmed by a commission and rubber stamped all along the way, 1781 01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:04.680 And why are so many records of the JFK assassination 1782 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.520 still not available to the general public. All those questions 1783 01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.319 and more we're going to answer in the next fifteen minutes. 1784 01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:14.439 Probably not, but we're gonna give as good a try 1785 01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.439 as we can. Mark Damasac is our guest. He is 1786 01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:21.319 one of those co authors. Again the JFK assassination choke holds. 1787 01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:23.119 Good evening, Mark, how are you. 1788 01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:25.119 Good? 1789 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.039 Good evening, Happy to be here, Thank you? 1790 01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:30.680 Yeah. So, how did you get involved in this? You've 1791 01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:35.560 been researching the Kennedy assassination for like a quarter century, 1792 01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:35.960 haven't you. 1793 01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:38.359 I have been. 1794 01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:43.279 I went to school in New Orleans in the late 1795 01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:48.239 nineties and started getting into the aspects of the case there, 1796 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:52.079 which were of course a big deal in Oliver Stone's 1797 01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:55.680 nineteen ninety one movie JFK that focused on the investigation 1798 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.840 in New Orleans. And then you know that piqued my 1799 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:02.199 interest for sure, as did millions of other Americans. In fact, 1800 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:06.760 we can get back to the public reaction from that movie, 1801 01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:10.159 which led to the creation of the collectored the collect 1802 01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:14.159 Records Collection Act in nineteen ninety two. That started the 1803 01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:18.239 record's review board, and that that's very extremely important to 1804 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:22.319 what we know today about the case. So from then, 1805 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.520 I really tried since then to develop a balanced view 1806 01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.000 of it. And I've read books on all kinds of 1807 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:32.720 theories and positions, so I can I can say that 1808 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:36.520 I'm not a conspiracy theorist. And how that ties into 1809 01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:40.600 our book is we we set out to establish, you know, 1810 01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:44.039 beyond much of any doubts, that there was a conspiracy 1811 01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:47.600 in the case, based on fact and record and not 1812 01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:50.520 just on theories. So that's that's how that's where we 1813 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:51.960 are today with this project. 1814 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:55.079 Well, you reference the Oliver Stone movie, and that's probably 1815 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.640 the most famous and the one that most people know 1816 01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:03.880 about on this particular event in American history. What, in 1817 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:07.000 your opinion, with the research and the facts that you 1818 01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:10.840 guys have uncovered, what did Oliver Stone get right and 1819 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:12.680 what did he get wrong in the movie. 1820 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:15.119 That's a great question. 1821 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.760 Yeah, he certainly took a lot of heat for his 1822 01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:23.760 dramatic license in the movie, and at the time before 1823 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:28.680 the review board was created, after the fact, Oliver was 1824 01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:32.399 going off of what was known at the time. Following 1825 01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:37.199 the well, of course the Warren Report, which is heavily 1826 01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:39.840 dissected in our book and is shown as now to 1827 01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:40.319 be fiction. 1828 01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:43.560 But the HSCA, the House. 1829 01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:47.159 Select Committee in the late seventies reopened the case after 1830 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.359 the Zubruterer film was shown on national TV for the 1831 01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:55.079 first time in nineteen seventy five, and they did a 1832 01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:57.319 more of a deep dive into Oswald and who he 1833 01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:02.119 really was and is, the Mexico City trip and the 1834 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:08.800 CIA mafia operations involving the elimination of Castro and so 1835 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:12.239 and then, and of course the movie puts a heavy 1836 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:17.319 focus on the president's foreign policy, namely the decision to 1837 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:21.279 start de escalating in Vietnam, which of course was reversed 1838 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:22.439 after the assassination. 1839 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:25.680 So a lot of those things were themes. 1840 01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:28.359 But I can tell you, you know, his main character 1841 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.479 in the movie, Jim Garrison, the district attorney in New Orleans. 1842 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.680 His investigation in the case that the movie. 1843 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:41.560 Now is has come out to be correct on on 1844 01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:44.279 Jim Garrison in terms of he was right about a 1845 01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:47.359 lot of things and what he was onto in New 1846 01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:51.960 Orleans with with Oswald and his activities there, both with 1847 01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:56.960 pro and anti castro activists, I believe played a heavy 1848 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:58.520 part in what happened in Dallas. 1849 01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:05.039 What was every presidential administration when they are asked on 1850 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:11.159 the campaign trail, most of the candidates and then ultimate 1851 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:15.119 office holders will say, I'm definitely going to look into that. 1852 01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:19.079 It's kind of like UFOs and UAPs. I'm definitely going 1853 01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:25.760 to look into that. Donald Trump has echoed those sentiments 1854 01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:32.560 and made similar promises of getting the truth about the 1855 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:36.000 Kennedy assassination, about a whole lot of things about January sixth, 1856 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:40.560 about COVID and the response, and everything else that this 1857 01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:44.039 country has gone through, particularly in the last four years, 1858 01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:46.640 but over the course of sixty years, in the case 1859 01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:51.640 of the Kennedy assassination, sixty plus years. Now, do you 1860 01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:58.239 hold out hope that you know Bobby Kennedy, who was 1861 01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:03.720 you know that that was his uncle? Will we'll find 1862 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:08.760 a way inside the Trump administration to I mean, we 1863 01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.000 finally have a Kennedy in the White House with the 1864 01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.239 president's ear. Is this going to make a difference as 1865 01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:17.960 far as getting getting the truth? 1866 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:20.800 I think it's going. 1867 01:34:20.760 --> 01:34:24.920 To make a difference in getting the remaining records released. 1868 01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:27.680 As of now, there's a little over thirty six hundred 1869 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:32.000 records that are still classified and under lock and seal 1870 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.119 if you will, by the CIA and the agencies in 1871 01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:39.319 violation of the JFK Records Act of nineteen ninety two. 1872 01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:43.520 So what will Trump do with the assistance of RFK Junior. 1873 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:46.319 We don't know for sure, but what they can do 1874 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:49.079 is start with that law and make sure that it's 1875 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:52.199 carried out for good because it's been too long. The 1876 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:56.239 job was supposed to be done, completely done by twenty seventeen. 1877 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:57.359 It was actually a lot of the. 1878 01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:00.920 Work was done before that, almost all of it, but 1879 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.640 we can get that's a whole different history that will 1880 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.439 take a lot of time to explain. But that law 1881 01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:09.439 required Trump at the time, who was president, to certify 1882 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:10.920 the release and the remaining records. 1883 01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:12.239 I believe he wanted to do it. 1884 01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.479 He said he was going to do it, and then 1885 01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:19.199 under pressure from Mike Pompeo and the agencies, was told 1886 01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:21.640 that it was better to wait for another day. So 1887 01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:26.079 what Trump did was simply delay any significant action on 1888 01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.279 that another three and a half years into the Biden administration. 1889 01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:32.479 What Biden did was the same, but he actually made 1890 01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:37.119 it worse. Trump just did a delay without much reasoning 1891 01:35:37.159 --> 01:35:37.760 of events. 1892 01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:39.920 You know, we're going to it's national security, et cetera. 1893 01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:45.479 But Biden essentially rewrote that law without authority, telling the 1894 01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.520 agencies to go ahead and you know, continue running the show, 1895 01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:52.159 which is in direct conflict with what Congress said in 1896 01:35:52.239 --> 01:35:56.239 nineteen ninety two and passing that historical law. So it's 1897 01:35:56.279 --> 01:36:01.600 gone nowhere, especially in the last administration. But now Trump 1898 01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:05.279 has a chance again. And I do think that you know, 1899 01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.439 whether be the remaining records will show exactly what happened 1900 01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:10.920 in Dallas to a t, probably not. There may not 1901 01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:13.640 be such a record that ever existed on paper, right, 1902 01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.720 but I think it's starting with that and getting the 1903 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:20.600 transparency on those records will help researchers and your listeners 1904 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.680 put piece together you know what most likely happened. 1905 01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:26.119 And that's a great start. 1906 01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:29.079 And I do think that the built the Trump and 1907 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:33.960 Robert Kennedy partnership there will the atmosphere is better than 1908 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:35.520 ever to get that part of it done. 1909 01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:40.199 Yeah, ascertaining what happened on that day in Dallas and 1910 01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:43.640 Dealey Plaza a lot of that, And I know you 1911 01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:47.199 guys go into this in the book The JFK Assassination 1912 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:54.319 Choke Holds the exact chain of custody of the president's 1913 01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:57.039 body and the autopsies and. 1914 01:36:59.159 --> 01:36:59.600 All of that. 1915 01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.399 Can you go into a little bit of that that 1916 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:05.079 you guys cover in the JFK Assassination Choke Holds the 1917 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:12.000 disparities between what usually happens in an autopsy and with 1918 01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:15.840 the president's body and how this was handled differently. 1919 01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:21.239 Yeah, it certainly was handled differently, to say the least. 1920 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:22.560 There's a really good. 1921 01:37:22.439 --> 01:37:26.960 Chapter on that in Choke Holds by Jim Dudenio called 1922 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.199 the Evidentiary Mess of the twentieth Century. 1923 01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:31.239 And boy was it so. 1924 01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:34.159 That the autopsy of President Kennedy was supposed to be 1925 01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:38.319 done by law in Dallas that weekend under under Texas 1926 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:42.359 law at the time, and as we as shown in 1927 01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:44.279 the movie we talked about, and of course in the 1928 01:37:44.279 --> 01:37:46.640 records that are known now, that the body was quickly 1929 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:52.520 moved to Washington for the official autopsy. The doctors selected 1930 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:55.560 for the most important autopsy of all time that very 1931 01:37:55.600 --> 01:38:00.359 little experience in these types of autopsies and gun fired 1932 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:04.000 ballistics and so that was obviously a poor start. Plus 1933 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:08.000 there's now very clear evidence that the autopsy was heavily 1934 01:38:08.079 --> 01:38:11.359 under the control of the military and so not your 1935 01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:14.720 normal autopsy to say the least. And that just led to, 1936 01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:17.520 like you said, the evidentiary messing in the president's brain 1937 01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:24.039 eventually years later seemingly disappeared, and it didn't weigh what 1938 01:38:24.119 --> 01:38:28.159 it should have weighed. Weighing, if you will, if so many, 1939 01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:31.520 so much so many portions of the brain had been 1940 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:35.640 I don't like to use boards blasted out, but if 1941 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:38.720 they were lost in the in the horrific shooting, it 1942 01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:42.000 just you know, just doesn't add up to basic you know, math, 1943 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:47.079 and just an example of how there's just no credibility 1944 01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:51.039 left to what you know. The Warrant Commission report, it 1945 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:55.119 was put together in haste immediately after the assassination to 1946 01:38:55.199 --> 01:39:01.319 quiet any speculation on any foreign conspiracy. And but I 1947 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:03.920 think what I think that we're learning more and more 1948 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:07.600 now is the bigger purpose of the Warrant Report was 1949 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:12.319 to look the folks look the other way from the 1950 01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:16.279 domestic side of it. You know, what unfolded here in 1951 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.760 New Orleans and Mexico City ended up in Dallas and 1952 01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.119 because Oswald was no loan nut communists assassin. There's another 1953 01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:26.319 chapter or two of that in the book. 1954 01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:26.760 He was. 1955 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:30.319 He was an intelligence asset, a low level intelligence asset 1956 01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:33.000 that had all kinds of assignments and activities linked to 1957 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.800 the FBI and CIA that go back to when he 1958 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:41.159 falsely or quote unquote deffected to the Soviet Union, comes back, 1959 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:45.000 and then then he starts his human related assignments in 1960 01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:48.199 New Orleans. And so once, you know, once he was 1961 01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:52.199 immediately identified as the suspect on the afternoon of November 1962 01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:56.479 twenty second, as a pro communist loan gunman, you know 1963 01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:00.439 nuts who did this all on his own, sent a 1964 01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:03.880 shock waves through the Pentagon and the White House and 1965 01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:07.039 the FBI because they knew a full investigation into Oswald 1966 01:40:07.039 --> 01:40:10.199 would be right back to us, right, So that's why 1967 01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:11.439 they so quickly went. 1968 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:12.199 With the lone gunmen. 1969 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:15.039 Yeah, and then and then they took care of the 1970 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:19.119 patsy before he could ever testify or anything else. 1971 01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:23.479 And you know what's funny about you mentioning that is 1972 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:26.560 those were Oswald's words, right, not anybody else. And he 1973 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.319 was being walked through the hallways and the police department. 1974 01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:32.760 He never said he didn't do anything right. He never 1975 01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:35.359 said he didn't have knowledge of it or wasn't involved 1976 01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:39.039 in some level. He just said, I'm a patsy, So 1977 01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:42.960 he knew he was taking the blame for something that 1978 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.960 he probably had no full knowledge of whatsoever. 1979 01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:48.560 Very very interesting. 1980 01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:52.600 So many fingers have been pointed at the CIA, and 1981 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.920 I think with good reason. I think there's good reason 1982 01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:00.840 to be suspectful of the CIA as involvement in the 1983 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:04.720 assassination of John Kennedy. I think there's plenty of reasons 1984 01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:09.840 to look at the organized crime element and some involvement 1985 01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:17.199 with Giancano and and the Chicago crime family, Cuba and Castro. 1986 01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:23.399 So many players could have been involved. And is there 1987 01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:26.800 a possibility that all of that is true? It was 1988 01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.319 the mob, it was the CIA, it was Cuba. 1989 01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:33.680 It is a possibility, for sure, But I can tell 1990 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:37.840 you there's almost no chance that it was Cuba and 1991 01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:42.800 Castro as the originators of the plane because if that 1992 01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:46.800 was the case, and let's just say the conspirators wanted 1993 01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.079 that to be the result, that there was enough evidence 1994 01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:53.960 pointing at Castro as the perpetrator, don't you think LBJ 1995 01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:57.479 and the Joint Chiefs would have had bombers over at 1996 01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:02.359 Cuba that day. Right, it's the perfect pretext to to 1997 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.920 take the action that the military hawks so badly wanted, 1998 01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:09.199 that the CIA and mafia so badly wanted in the 1999 01:42:09.279 --> 01:42:12.560 late fifties leading right up to Dallas. So the reason 2000 01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:15.600 that's why I don't think it was, you know, plausible 2001 01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:19.399 that it was Castro or the Soviets, because our actions 2002 01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:22.439 dictate otherwise the immediate cover up and going with a 2003 01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:23.079 loan nuts. 2004 01:42:24.039 --> 01:42:30.319 Unless LBJ had four knowledge of this and was involved, well, there's. 2005 01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:32.920 Been books written on that, and that's certainly a theory. 2006 01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:35.560 I think there's he had a lot to gain from 2007 01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:41.560 that event, obviously, and not only become president, but he 2008 01:42:41.680 --> 01:42:44.279 had he had his own legal problems as well. That 2009 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:47.640 that went away with various scandals that went away that day. 2010 01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:52.279 But to think that he had him and his buddies 2011 01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:55.600 from Texas and that was obviously obviously suspicious where the 2012 01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:58.840 crime occurred, But to think that they had the ability 2013 01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.720 to orchestrate that and cover it up and pull it 2014 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:06.720 off without any any consequence, It's just he definitely was 2015 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:10.439 instrumental that weekend immediately after the assassination, along with his 2016 01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:14.119 very good friend JAA gar Hoover and starting to cover up. 2017 01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.720 So his complicity in that is without question. 2018 01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:19.800 Yeah, no doubt about it. Mark A. 2019 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:23.479 Damasik, I really appreciate your time tonight. The book is 2020 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:27.439 the jfk Assassination Chokeholds. Mark is a co author with 2021 01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:32.279 several other very learned gentlemen. And this is something that 2022 01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:38.000 continues all these years later. It continues to fascinate the 2023 01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:43.560 American public. And it's because of all the secrecy that 2024 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.039 you know, this thing's been shrouded in all this time. 2025 01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:50.920 Because yeah, it's not yeah exactly. 2026 01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:53.840 Not only does the case itself fascinating, it's the greatest 2027 01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:57.119 unsolved murder ever, but it's the it's the way that 2028 01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:00.800 the secrecy is still maintained in twenty two four, more 2029 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:03.760 than sixty years later, so you get closer and closer 2030 01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:06.439 to saying something's not right here. There's got to be 2031 01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:08.640 more to the official story, even if it's just the 2032 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:14.119 CIA finally admitting who Oswald really was, and that would 2033 01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:17.800 that would launch a whole new look into the case. 2034 01:44:17.640 --> 01:44:18.039 Wouldn't it. 2035 01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:20.800 Oh yeah, whole new kettle of fish. Mark, Thanks so 2036 01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:24.359 much again, and we'll talk soon, I hope. All right, 2037 01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:29.000 Marca Damsick, co author of the JFK Assassination, Shoke holds 2038 01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:34.399 still out now recommended reading if you care about this 2039 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:37.399 fascinating story, and as an American you probably should. 2040 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:41.399 We'll close the night Cap next to the Holy Girls 2041 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:42.800 your HQ for all sports. 2042 01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:45.640 Join No weggor Tony Pike and can brew before every 2043 01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:46.479 Bengals home game. 2044 01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:48.920 Plus, the new ten by six foot video boards are 2045 01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:49.800 perfect for watching