Speaker 1: For this Monday night, December sixteenth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: The days are the fleeting.
Speaker 1: We're almost out of the year, and we're celebrating a
Speaker 1: very very special occasion, the anniversary of the birth of
Speaker 1: a local Cincinnati legend. That's right today, lo those many
Speaker 1: years ago, Andy Furman came into the world, and here
Speaker 1: he is ready for his spanking, to celebrate another year
Speaker 1: older and another year I'm sure wiser, some people would say,
Speaker 1: he would probably say that, I'm not sure. But with
Speaker 1: that in mind, hello Furball.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so very much, and thank you for
Speaker 3: reminding me that it's my birthday, because to me, it's
Speaker 3: just like any other day.
Speaker 4: But I certainly appreciate that.
Speaker 3: And honestly, you know, when you get a little older,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you look forward to the birthdays
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 4: Is that true? I don't know.
Speaker 3: It is kind of exciting, it is.
Speaker 4: In a sense.
Speaker 3: But you know, I know one thing, you get a
Speaker 3: little ornery the older you get. And I think one
Speaker 3: of the reasons being is the fact that you don't care.
Speaker 3: You don't care what you look like at times, you
Speaker 3: don't care what you wear. No, you just don't care.
Speaker 3: So you say it and if you you know, and
Speaker 3: sold somebody and kiss them off, let it go.
Speaker 4: And I tell you I got a couple of it.
Speaker 3: I want to get off my chairs, which I usually
Speaker 3: do with you, And one of them is the Christmas
Speaker 3: party situation. Are you ready for this?
Speaker 4: Can you handle it?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: You're ready?
Speaker 1: I missed dark Christmas party here at iHeart this year,
Speaker 1: sadly for about the twentieth year in a row.
Speaker 2: But what were you going to say?
Speaker 3: Well, obviously I don't know a lot of people, but
Speaker 3: I do get invited to several Christmas parties every year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I wish what they would do is have one
Speaker 3: day and call it party Day, because they came after
Speaker 3: another and a lot of times they overlapped. I'll give
Speaker 3: you an example. There was a party way back on
Speaker 3: the fourth of December. A Keith Sprunk, a good longtime friend,
Speaker 3: got everybody.
Speaker 4: Together at River Downs and I guess for lunch. I
Speaker 4: couldn't make it.
Speaker 3: Because that's something else that evening had jags. They had
Speaker 3: the NFL Alumni, which I'm a member of because I
Speaker 3: did some work in the PR department of the Miami
Speaker 3: Dophins years ago. Because I worked with the Fort Laudaville
Speaker 3: Strikers soccer team, and both the Strikers and the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Were owned by Joe and Liz Robbie, the Robbie family.
Speaker 3: So I'm a member of the NFL alums.
Speaker 4: And again I didn't.
Speaker 3: Make that if there's something else was going on. There
Speaker 3: are too many things going on at various times where
Speaker 3: people just can't get to every one of them. So
Speaker 3: they have to designate one day, call it party day.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's the way it should be.
Speaker 1: But Denna, if they just had one day set aside
Speaker 1: for these celebratory moments, Andy, you'd only have to go
Speaker 1: you'd only you only be able to go to one.
Speaker 2: You'd have to pick one.
Speaker 1: Now, see, you've got a broad range of dates, and you'll.
Speaker 4: Have one day. One day.
Speaker 3: It starts at noon and it ends at midnight, and
Speaker 3: you can only attend. It's only two hours, no more
Speaker 3: so if you have several parties you want to go to,
Speaker 3: you go every two hours, you go to a different
Speaker 3: party and get it done. It's over with and that's it.
Speaker 3: And honestly, it would.
Speaker 4: Avoid a lot of these.
Speaker 3: Duy's really uh, you know, embarrassment, embarrassing moments at parties
Speaker 3: things like that, you get it over a one day
Speaker 3: I love the law enforcement would love that. Whereastet patrolling
Speaker 3: for DUIs almost every day since the first of December, right,
Speaker 3: think about that.
Speaker 1: Well, they have to announce them on the radio when
Speaker 1: and where they're going to do them, by law Andy,
Speaker 1: So it's not really that at the checkpoint.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, they announced the checkpoints where they're going to be,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot more places they are besides those
Speaker 3: checkpoints that are announced.
Speaker 2: Believe me, Well, if you're up roadblocks, they've got to
Speaker 2: announce them.
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean, if you're driving, Michael Fool,
Speaker 1: if you're an idiot and you've you know, had too
Speaker 1: much to drink and you get behind the wheel, I
Speaker 1: hope they are out there.
Speaker 2: I mean for just for public purposes.
Speaker 1: But most of the time the DUIs that are charged
Speaker 1: and written are like point oh eight and the driver
Speaker 1: is not really drunk. They were just stupid enough to
Speaker 1: tell the cop that they had had a drink. Or
Speaker 1: to most people who get DUI's the first timers. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's just a money grab by the police, by the state,
Speaker 1: by the prosecutors, and that doesn't keep anybody safe.
Speaker 4: I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Now, Now let me ask you this. Should one person
Speaker 3: at the at the Clear Channel Hive get a DUI,
Speaker 3: would they be dismissed from their job?
Speaker 5: On?
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on you you have made it.
Speaker 1: You've made a habit of correcting me when I've said
Speaker 1: things incorrectly on the earth. And now it's my turn.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, you talked about something at River Downs.
Speaker 1: It does not exist, Andy, River Downs is no, that's right,
Speaker 1: you said river Downs.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Secondly, you wait until you get done with your spanking,
Speaker 1: young man, and then you can speak what I was.
Speaker 6: It is Downs.
Speaker 3: They still have thoroughbred racing there. It's River Downs. It's
Speaker 3: bell Terra Casino, River Downs at Bell Terra Casinos.
Speaker 2: Bell Terror Park, Bell Terra Park.
Speaker 3: Are you're right about Cliff channelart Media?
Speaker 2: iHeart media right?
Speaker 1: Which you said clear Channel and that is an entity
Speaker 1: that no longer exists as far as I.
Speaker 4: Know, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, what what the hell is your problem? Why
Speaker 1: are you getting all these Is this this a result
Speaker 1: of your aging brain? Are you cognitively challenged?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: With I mean no, I just do you?
Speaker 1: Do you have anyone help you? Eat your pudding. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's going on here with this?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I know that you gotta.
Speaker 4: Get my bid.
Speaker 3: I gotta get my bid for my cake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's no there's no girl coming out of
Speaker 1: your cake. I'm just letting you know. Now we we
Speaker 1: couldn't afford a girl, but we got something that's almost
Speaker 1: as good.
Speaker 3: It's it's the question at hand.
Speaker 2: It's it's a guy.
Speaker 1: It's a guy who's transitioning, but he's gonna come out
Speaker 1: of your cake.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless. Now I know if it.
Speaker 3: Should someone get the d u y situation with iHeartMedia,
Speaker 3: would that person be dismissed from his job? I'm just curious,
Speaker 3: is that in the handbook aside.
Speaker 2: I'm not naming any names.
Speaker 1: Of course, it would depend on the circumstance and the
Speaker 1: egregiousness of the infraction.
Speaker 2: If you just got picked up for a.
Speaker 3: Wait, put an asterism, and the importance of the person.
Speaker 3: If it's a behind the scenes guy who is an
Speaker 3: editor or a producer, he's gonzo to make a statement.
Speaker 3: If it's a big time personality, nothing happens.
Speaker 1: No, it's more I think it's more of a statement.
Speaker 1: If it's an on air frontline personality. You don't want
Speaker 1: the rest of the hoard thinking that they can just
Speaker 1: get away willy nilly with drinking and driving because they've
Speaker 1: got an air shift. I actually, and I'm not mentioning
Speaker 1: any names, I actually work with a couple of people
Speaker 1: in this building, in this company now who've had the
Speaker 1: misfortune of having a a DUI arrest. And again one
Speaker 1: of them in particular I know about. It was one
Speaker 1: of those situations where it was like a point eight.
Speaker 1: He was just above the legal women and was not
Speaker 1: drunk and was not impaired to drive. And nevertheless, because
Speaker 1: of the jurisdiction where he got the dui, which by
Speaker 1: the way, is a place called Fort Thomas you may
Speaker 1: be familiar with. That is the only way they generate
Speaker 1: revenue in Fort Thomas is from speeding, traffic violations and
Speaker 1: most importantly dui and they make a mint. They got
Speaker 1: a lot of nice squad cars at Fort Thomas. No,
Speaker 1: but well yet is Jesus is the reason for the
Speaker 1: season not to UIs though, and I think they need
Speaker 1: to keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I will mention since you are my one of my
Speaker 1: few Jewish friends, I just don't know that many you
Speaker 1: and Lewis Kaplan and a couple of others. But Honikah
Speaker 1: is actually starting the first day of Honkah is on
Speaker 1: Christmas Day this year?
Speaker 2: Is that Kismet or what?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: That's cool?
Speaker 3: I don't ever remember that happening.
Speaker 4: I don't ever remember that happen.
Speaker 1: And Kwanza too is on the twenty fifth this year.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they decide.
Speaker 4: What they do.
Speaker 3: Do we like the menora and I put the gifts
Speaker 3: under the tree at the same time.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you like the minora, You put the
Speaker 1: gifts under the tree, and you crank up some gangster
Speaker 1: hip hop. That's that's how you celebrate all three at
Speaker 1: once and one fell swoop. I know that you're a
Speaker 1: member of the Rotary. You're you're a member the Rotary Club.
Speaker 4: Right, Covington Rotary.
Speaker 2: Covington Rotary.
Speaker 1: They recently had an awards banquet, and I heard that
Speaker 1: you were named Rotarian of the Year.
Speaker 2: Is that correct, Andy Furman?
Speaker 4: No, you heard you heard wrong. But I gotta check
Speaker 4: my sources. I would never be anything of the year.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, But you know, just just
Speaker 3: I'm glad they let me in I'm glad they let
Speaker 3: me in their club.
Speaker 4: To be honest.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I I just thought you went
Speaker 2: for the lunch.
Speaker 3: Well, actually I too.
Speaker 2: Is it good? Is it good?
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times at those seven meetings. Listen
Speaker 1: back when I was a bus boy at Heritage House
Speaker 1: Morgesborg in the late seventies, we hosted because it was
Speaker 1: a big place. It had like two thousand seats and
Speaker 1: three buffet lines. It was a huge, huge restaurant. But
Speaker 1: we would host the Kawanis Club and I think the
Speaker 1: Rotary Club may meet there once a month or something
Speaker 1: like that at the Smorgesborg And those were some of
Speaker 1: the most boring people I think I'd ever encountered to
Speaker 1: that point. Now I've met well I've met lots of
Speaker 1: more boring people since. But you know, it's a seventeen
Speaker 1: sixteen year old kid. I thought, well, these guys are
Speaker 1: a bunch of wet blankets. They do this for fun.
Speaker 1: This is what they do. What a what a rotary? Well,
Speaker 1: what a rotarians do? And I know it's a philanthropic organization, right.
Speaker 4: They service people.
Speaker 3: That's that's basically what they do.
Speaker 2: The service people.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, yeah, and they do good there used
Speaker 3: to play.
Speaker 1: There used to be plenty of places in Newport where
Speaker 1: women would service people and get paid for it.
Speaker 2: It's not this not the same thing though, right.
Speaker 3: Not the same thing they did. They're do gooders.
Speaker 4: They're do gooders. That's what they do.
Speaker 3: They service people.
Speaker 4: Uh, and they're there to help people.
Speaker 3: And then you know they do charitable operations. Yeah. But
Speaker 3: you know during the last several weeks they were ringing
Speaker 3: the bell for the Salvation Army, the volunteers during that
Speaker 3: they deliver food to people. You know, they're just do gooders,
Speaker 3: they really are. And they're business people. See, they're good people,
Speaker 3: they really are. I'm not too sure about I don't
Speaker 3: know about the other.
Speaker 4: Clubs what other clubs do.
Speaker 3: Like the Lion, The Lions are up it for eyeglasses.
Speaker 4: They'll beg with eyes and stuff.
Speaker 3: But Rotarians the worldwide they helped cure polio the rotarians
Speaker 3: years ago and basically.
Speaker 1: They were working were working in the lab with Jonas Sauk.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened but help.
Speaker 3: But they helped polio in the sense that when they
Speaker 3: had the the polio vaccine, they were able to distribute
Speaker 3: that vaccine worldwide.
Speaker 1: That is a worthwhile cause, there's no question about it.
Speaker 1: So do you have I know you downplayed your birthday today,
Speaker 1: but do you have any plans other than talking to
Speaker 1: me tonight for your big birthday?
Speaker 2: Andy?
Speaker 3: You know what, I think it should be a surprise.
Speaker 3: I think it's a family surprise. That's the way I'll
Speaker 3: leave it to me. It's a day like any other day.
Speaker 3: I'm happy I've lasted this long and made it to
Speaker 3: this birthday. And I'm very appreciated the fact that a
Speaker 3: You've got me on the radio and be you remembered,
Speaker 3: so not many people do, but I thank you, I
Speaker 3: really do.
Speaker 4: And I'm touched. I am touched. How's that?
Speaker 3: No, I'm touching you.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have said you were touched for
Speaker 2: a long time. Now.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, not
Speaker 1: regarding Christmas parties or your birthday, but let me ask
Speaker 1: you that we just found out last week that Dave
Speaker 1: Parker rightly.
Speaker 2: Is in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Do you think there need to be changes in how
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame choose inductees and in all the sports,
Speaker 1: whether it's the NFL, the MLB, the NBA. I mean,
Speaker 1: are you happy with the selection process to this point?
Speaker 2: Andy, I would.
Speaker 3: Say this, I think the selection process and the voters
Speaker 3: do an outstanding job because I don't think they just
Speaker 3: put down.
Speaker 4: People they know. I think they really do their homework.
Speaker 3: What I'd like to see is that these voting processes
Speaker 3: become a little more transparent. I don't know how they
Speaker 3: get in. I like to know who votes, especially in football.
Speaker 3: Is it the writers? I mean who votes? And how
Speaker 3: many writers vote? I don't know. I have no idea
Speaker 3: how Ken Anderson cannot be in the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame. I really don't And I don't know as
Speaker 3: far as Major League Baseball is concerned. What the hell
Speaker 3: is the Veterans Committee, which Dave Parker basically got in.
Speaker 4: Why does he have to wait for that?
Speaker 3: But he basically was the player of the seventies when
Speaker 3: he played, So I don't understand. Why does it take
Speaker 3: a veteran. I'll give you an example. Several years ago,
Speaker 3: Bill Mazeroski got into the Hall of Fame by way
Speaker 3: of the Veterans Committee. I'm not so certain. Bill Mazeroski,
Speaker 3: who had a lifetime batting average for the Pittsburgh Pirates
Speaker 3: as a second baseman in the two sixties. His client
Speaker 3: to fame is hitting that home run in the nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty World Series off Ralph Terry to win the World
Speaker 3: Series over the Yankees. Forbes Field and Pittsburgh. Obviously he
Speaker 3: knew people. I'm the Veterans Committee, and he got in.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the way to go. I want
Speaker 3: it to be very transparent. Who does the voting and
Speaker 3: more than that, who these people voted for and why
Speaker 3: answer questions. I think they should answer questions as.
Speaker 4: To why is it Ken Anderson in?
Speaker 3: Who voted for him and who did not vote for him?
Speaker 4: And why.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm going to say. There's the way to go.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 1: You know what, when your congressman votes on bills, it's
Speaker 1: on a congressional record.
Speaker 2: You know who voted. Yay, you know who voted now, right,
Speaker 2: So why not with the Pro Football and Baseball Hall
Speaker 2: of Fames?
Speaker 1: Why don't we know how they vote and who didn't
Speaker 1: vote and who did and all the rest of that.
Speaker 2: I have one more question.
Speaker 4: Give me an example.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example about baseball. For years, Uh,
Speaker 3: Steve Carlton, Lestie Carlton never got into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Great picture for the Philadelphia Phillies. Why was that?
Speaker 3: The late Phil Peppi for the New York Daily News,
Speaker 3: was the president of the Baseball Writers Association. He did
Speaker 3: not like to let the Carlton Why because after the
Speaker 3: ball games Steve Carlton refused to talk to the media.
Speaker 3: It's his call. He never would talk. Go back to
Speaker 3: his locker.
Speaker 4: Boom.
Speaker 3: That was it, and phil Peppie started, May he rest
Speaker 3: in peace. Phil Peppe, I loved him to death. He
Speaker 3: went to my high school years before me. But Phil
Speaker 3: peppe started a little bit of a group to not
Speaker 3: vote for Steve Carlton for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: You're essentially saying, Phil Peppi, even though you loved him
Speaker 1: to death and God rest his soul, was a putts.
Speaker 4: He was wrong, all right?
Speaker 3: Well, no, he was wrong. You know, I loved him,
Speaker 3: I still love him. May he rest in peace. But
Speaker 3: he was wrong on discount. You know, he took a
Speaker 3: personal grudge and he used it against the guys in
Speaker 3: not livelihood, but his guy's I guess his career, you know, basically,
Speaker 3: he took it against his career, his legacy, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Right, I have one more real quick question Andy, before
Speaker 1: our time runs out. The sands through the hour glasses.
Speaker 1: They say, I have this idea. I'd like to see
Speaker 1: one rule change in the NFL, and it regards timeouts.
Speaker 1: I think if you don't, if you're smart enough not
Speaker 1: to use any of your timeouts in the first half,
Speaker 1: or you have one left, you ought to be able
Speaker 1: to carry it over to the second half.
Speaker 2: What about that idea?
Speaker 3: No, No, because it makes one half more and more
Speaker 3: advantageous than the other.
Speaker 4: No. No, no.
Speaker 3: And then again, if I if I'm a coach and
Speaker 3: I don't use eighty in the first hand, I mean,
Speaker 3: if I have six and the other guy would be
Speaker 3: down to three, it's not there.
Speaker 4: Well, that's advantage.
Speaker 1: Because that's he's better clock management the other coach.
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it might be, just I think you want
Speaker 3: to try to keep it as even as you can.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 3: No, I don't like the idea of the overtime. When
Speaker 3: you flip a coin. I mean you're playing your your
Speaker 3: ass off for sixty minutes and it all boils down
Speaker 3: to a coin flip. I mean, come on, really, I
Speaker 3: mean the whole overtime thing should be revammed.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Play an extra period. That's as you do. They play
Speaker 3: an extra ten minutes, you have to play fifteen play
Speaker 3: an extra ten minutes. Stop stop with the you know,
Speaker 3: if they score a field goal, the other team, just
Speaker 3: the ball. If you score a touchdown, it's over.
Speaker 4: Not there. I just like a soccer you go overtime.
Speaker 3: You know if they do corner kicks, penalty kicks, Yeah,
Speaker 3: penalty I what do you mean you're gonna play? You're
Speaker 3: gonna play ninety minutes and then it comes down to
Speaker 3: penalty kicks.
Speaker 1: Running up and down the field, sweating like a lake's
Speaker 1: worth of of bodily fluids out of you, and then
Speaker 1: it's all decided by one or two kicks at the right.
Speaker 3: That's it's exciting. Well, you know that it's exciting.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this on your bird and on
Speaker 1: this show. I just want to say, you talked about
Speaker 1: extra periods. I hope that you have an extra period
Speaker 1: of life.
Speaker 4: Andy, Thank you so much, because the.
Speaker 1: Clock is running out. The clock is running out. You're
Speaker 1: running out.
Speaker 4: Of timeouts, Andy, I know, thank you.
Speaker 1: Better get you, better get out of bounds before before
Speaker 1: we expire.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: I love you, Happy birthday to all right, thank you
Speaker 2: very much. See take care.
Speaker 1: The night Cap continues in a moment on Andy Fourman's
Speaker 1: birthday on seven hundred w LW.
Speaker 2: It's the Get Holiday Ready sales event with hankin Cy.
Speaker 1: Our next guy sports for the out of sorts in
Speaker 1: this first hour of this night cap and putting the
Speaker 1: finishing touches the couda grass, so to speak. On our
Speaker 1: discussion of balls, the one and only sports Commando wild
Speaker 1: Man Walker joins us, wild Man, are we going to
Speaker 1: talk about ball?
Speaker 2: Particularly footballs?
Speaker 8: Uh? Footballs, maybe a smidgeon of basketballs, but footballs all.
Speaker 1: Right, Uh, let's go ahead, get the basketballs out of
Speaker 1: the way. Any response to the Crosstown shootout on Saturday,
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 8: A very entertaining game, it really was. I mean Xavier
Speaker 8: went up and then you see went up, then Xavier
Speaker 8: went down, and Xavier came back up, then you see
Speaker 8: went down. But you see, just I think we just
Speaker 8: wanted it just a little bit more, just wanted a
Speaker 8: little bit more. And I'm for west Miller, I mean,
Speaker 8: fully the monkeys off his back because he had lost
Speaker 8: what five straight, three straight something like that to Xavier.
Speaker 8: So it was a very entertaining game. I know, all
Speaker 8: over social media people were raising kine about the game
Speaker 8: not locally being on television, and I just think that's
Speaker 8: a croc that local TV does not carry this game.
Speaker 8: They could carry that get a lot more viewership.
Speaker 4: They could sell it.
Speaker 8: There's no doubt in my mind they could sell it
Speaker 8: to sponsors.
Speaker 4: It on ESPN plus.
Speaker 8: Gary Jeff that the feed was really bad, was going
Speaker 8: in and out, in and out, so people that had
Speaker 8: to pay to get that just for this game were
Speaker 8: getting all honked off. Because this game should be on
Speaker 8: local TV.
Speaker 2: It really should.
Speaker 8: It's one of the best rivalries in college basketball.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: It always was on local TV up to what just
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I mean, and it was
Speaker 1: easily easily found, and not just on channels that most
Speaker 1: people get through their providers, but like you said, on
Speaker 1: local on air terrestrial television signals that.
Speaker 2: You can pick up with an antenna.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it was Fox nineteen or Local twelve
Speaker 1: or any of the rest of them, it would be
Speaker 1: a huge draw, I would think, and you know.
Speaker 2: College it would be. I know it would be.
Speaker 8: I mean, the Crosstown shootout has kind of lost some
Speaker 8: of its luster, and I don't know why it's you know,
Speaker 8: it used to be starting to week up, it was
Speaker 8: just the talk of the town and you know, some
Speaker 8: of the guys were talking smack and the paper. Now
Speaker 8: nobody reads the paper, and the paper us a fan
Speaker 8: of the planes.
Speaker 2: But still this game.
Speaker 8: Everybody wanted to watch it, and you know you got
Speaker 8: to go to it. I got to go to a
Speaker 8: watering hole to watch the game because you know it's
Speaker 8: on ESPN Plus. It's it's ridiculous, it really is. It's
Speaker 8: it's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 1: Well we sound like two dinosaurs talking about the good
Speaker 1: old days almost, because it's more and more of that
Speaker 1: is moving that way. But you know, when they started
Speaker 1: putting an NFL game on Thursday night on on Apple Prime,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have Apple Prime, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people aren't willing to pay an extra free to
Speaker 1: see things that they used to get on free TV.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of the same way. So I don't
Speaker 1: care if I sound like a dinosaur or not. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on this camp here. I mean, ESPN Plus
Speaker 1: it's a fine outlet for whatever kind of programming. ESPN
Speaker 1: the entertainment and sports programming network wants to put on it,
Speaker 1: but I as far as college basketball selling out to
Speaker 1: this high bidder, and nobody can see the game on TV.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 1: You can hear it for free on seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: and on fifty five KRC as you could this weekend.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it ain't the same as watching
Speaker 1: I don't care who's doing that.
Speaker 4: Now the same, but you can't. There's no doubt.
Speaker 8: Let's say, Channel sixty four, hardly anybody watch us. I'm
Speaker 8: sure they could sell this at a heartbeat, the sponsorships
Speaker 8: for this game. And like I said, you play the
Speaker 8: game at night and you got a lot more viewership,
Speaker 8: a lot more and people tune it in.
Speaker 4: At two o'clock.
Speaker 1: All right, So we'll move from basketballs to footballs.
Speaker 2: And we were getting down to crunch time.
Speaker 1: The Bengals still not eliminated from possible playoff contention at
Speaker 1: six and eight now with their victory on Sunday against
Speaker 1: Tennessee against the Titans in Nashville, my old hometown, and
Speaker 1: it was just it was one of the wildest football
Speaker 1: games I think I've watched this year, with all of
Speaker 1: the turnovers and all of the penalties, I mean you,
Speaker 1: it was the definition of sloppy, and yet it still
Speaker 1: was entertaining.
Speaker 2: Did you find the same.
Speaker 8: Thing I couldn't cur sloppy and entertaining. Sloppy and entertaining.
Speaker 8: Ten turnovers the most I think since uh oh, what
Speaker 8: year was between the oh my god, what year was that?
Speaker 8: Since I think it was two thousand, I think it
Speaker 8: was twenty ten and a game.
Speaker 1: Well, every time, every time there was a turnover by
Speaker 1: either team, they kept going back to another year when
Speaker 1: there were that many turnovers. First it was twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and then it was two thousand and seven, and by
Speaker 1: the time they got done, it was two thousand and
Speaker 1: and the penalties, the penalties were mountain up two like
Speaker 1: crazy anyway go ahead, And the penalties on the.
Speaker 8: Bengals side, a lot of them were due because of
Speaker 8: the offensive line. They had to put a couple of
Speaker 8: guys in there that really hadn't been playing much so
Speaker 8: and I know I know that that that that they
Speaker 8: played a part in it. But will Levis man a man.
Speaker 8: They almost mortgaged the farm to get this guy. And
Speaker 8: you talked about a guy that looked at a sink.
Speaker 4: Man. Man.
Speaker 8: He just throw he just thrown the football out there
Speaker 8: for people to to catch.
Speaker 1: I was joking with mo Egger on Saturday Morning show
Speaker 1: wild Man. I said, Will Levis has a hard time
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to his receivers in practice when there's
Speaker 1: no one guarding.
Speaker 2: He has had all.
Speaker 1: He's had a hard season Will Levis, There's no question
Speaker 1: about that. But Joe Burrow, I mean, he made his
Speaker 1: mistakes too, and he was visibly frustrated. There was the
Speaker 1: there was the conversation with Zach Taylor on the sideline
Speaker 1: where oh, yeah, Zach's down there on his knees trying
Speaker 1: to I don't know, he's trying to calm Joe down
Speaker 1: or whatever, because Joe was hot, and you saw Joe
Speaker 1: get hot with his head coach too.
Speaker 8: Oh he dropped a couple f bombs. Have you had
Speaker 8: to read his lips real good. They had a communication
Speaker 8: problem with the helmet and coming off off the sideline,
Speaker 8: so they had a problem there that they led led
Speaker 8: to that conversation. But how about this The Bengals went
Speaker 8: Gary Jeff was there four hundreds and franchise history that
Speaker 8: was number four hundred and franchise history and Joe Burrow,
Speaker 8: of course three touchdowns. That gives him thirty sixty that
Speaker 8: that equals the franchise record that he held. Anyway, so
Speaker 8: now he still holds the record. There's a chance he
Speaker 8: can become the only quarterback in Bengals history. Let's throw
Speaker 8: forty touchdowns and I would say, with three games to go,
Speaker 8: I would I would, I would get that.
Speaker 4: I would take that bet.
Speaker 8: I wonder if I could get that bet in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can go to fan duel or DraftKings
Speaker 1: are somewhere and make that bet right now, lyle Man
Speaker 1: at a premium for you.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna start looking what kind of want to get.
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna start looking at let's give the let's
Speaker 8: give the Bengals defension to they they get. They've taken
Speaker 8: a lot of crap all year, but coming up with
Speaker 8: four interceptions yesterday a Gino Stone back to back games
Speaker 8: with interception as he took one to the house.
Speaker 4: But then let's not.
Speaker 8: Forget about Jordan Battle of picking up that picking up
Speaker 8: that bumble and then running into the end zone and
Speaker 8: dropping the ball before he got.
Speaker 2: To the Leon. He's Leon lent moment of his career.
Speaker 8: That's just unacceptable. You know, and I'm glad that Zach
Speaker 8: Taylor made a point that said, we can't have that.
Speaker 8: Then you had one on the Colt side. The Colts
Speaker 8: also one of their players did it also.
Speaker 1: Well watching that in real time, it looked like he
Speaker 1: was over the line when he tossed ball, but then
Speaker 1: when they showed the replays, like, no, he didn't have
Speaker 1: control of the ball as he crossed the goal line
Speaker 1: and then fumbled it out of bounds and threw his
Speaker 1: arms up like, ah, I just scored a touchdown. No,
Speaker 1: you just you just sacrificed what should have been. It
Speaker 1: should have made it thirty eight at that point in
Speaker 1: the game, and then the Bengals would score another touchdown
Speaker 1: and get to the thirty seven mark. But still it
Speaker 1: was just like he thought that he'd already won the
Speaker 1: game and just and it didn't follow the ball. If
Speaker 1: he fell on the ball before it ended the fell
Speaker 1: out of the end zone, it would have been a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Is it should have been just nuts, Well.
Speaker 8: That would have been That would have been the icing
Speaker 8: on the cake for him. Because it was his birthday yesterday,
Speaker 8: so here he could have scored a touchdown on his birthday. Well,
Speaker 8: that was just part of the sloppiness that we saw
Speaker 8: yesterday in that game. And hey, the Bengals have a
Speaker 8: six percent chance from one I been reading a six
Speaker 8: percent chance. They just need too much help and it's
Speaker 8: not gonna happen. I've been down this road for four
Speaker 8: fifty years with this football team when they need help
Speaker 8: to get into playoffs. They've never gotten it. They've never
Speaker 8: gotten it, and they're not going to get it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's taken a long time to get to four
Speaker 1: hundred victories for the Bengals. You know, you're going back
Speaker 1: to what sixty eight was that the first year?
Speaker 8: Sixty seven, sixty eight sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty eight, sixty eight the first year as a
Speaker 1: franchise and just four hundred. I mean, we need to
Speaker 1: work on that win total, wild man, they really do.
Speaker 8: Before I let you go, we got to talk about
Speaker 8: the game of the Game of the day was the
Speaker 8: Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions. What almost ninety points they
Speaker 8: scored between those two teams and the Lions with all
Speaker 8: the guys they got banged up, managed to put forty plus.
Speaker 8: And I know they lost, but they put forty plus.
Speaker 8: We might just see those teams at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Well, I've been talking about the Lions, and I guess
Speaker 1: you have two for a while now as being Super
Speaker 1: Bowl teams.
Speaker 2: And you know what, the Bills.
Speaker 1: They went out and they lost what the week before
Speaker 1: to the Rams, right right, Yeah, they lost to the Rams.
Speaker 1: And the Rams have been up and coming, and that's
Speaker 1: a coach that has some Super Bowl experience out in LA.
Speaker 1: But Buffalo still looks I mean, they still look vulnerable.
Speaker 1: The Lions are vulnerable because half their damn defensive team
Speaker 1: that they're counting on is either out for the season
Speaker 1: or you know, is banged up. Like you said, Detroit
Speaker 1: is a very compromised defense right now, and that is
Speaker 1: the key to their success. Even though they racked up
Speaker 1: point after point offensively, a lot of that's been predicated
Speaker 1: on their defensive abilities to stop the other team and
Speaker 1: get great field position, which they've done all year. Kansas
Speaker 1: City just keeps on winning. And you know what, I know,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't look strong at all. I know that
Speaker 1: they look offensively compromised because they have been this season.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes not having a stellar season by his own standards.
Speaker 1: But Kansas City just keeps winning games. I mean, they
Speaker 1: went into Cleveland. It could have been a trap game
Speaker 1: for sure for the Chiefs. They took care of business.
Speaker 1: I still think that there's room for the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl discussion wildly.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 8: I don't count those guys out because they know how
Speaker 8: to win. They've been down this road. They're going to
Speaker 8: possibly make history with three pre Super Bowl victories in
Speaker 8: a row. But get back to Buffalo, Gary, Jeff. Buffalo
Speaker 8: made a statement in this game last night because they
Speaker 8: had to go into Detroit. They were lucky to get
Speaker 8: out of Buffalo because they had another man a snowstorm there.
Speaker 8: They went into hostile territory and really dominated that game.
Speaker 8: They really didn't. Josh Allen right now is the MVP.
Speaker 8: He is the MVP. The only guy near him is
Speaker 8: Saquon Barkley. But I got it right now. If I
Speaker 8: had a vote, it'd be Josh Allen the MVP of
Speaker 8: the National Football League.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia takes care of Pittsburgh and and so I mean,
Speaker 1: does that does that diminish It's still it's still anybody's division,
Speaker 1: the AFC North. When you're talking about Pittsburgh and Baltimore,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 8: Well, that's yeah, thats exactly comes down to those two
Speaker 8: teams exactly. I mean, Steelers are in the playoffs. They
Speaker 8: are in, but it's going to come down to Baltimore
Speaker 8: and Pittsburgh. Without a doubt.
Speaker 1: I thought that there was a possibility, just because they're
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and it's Mike Tomlin, you know, in
Speaker 1: the coaching seat there, that they would be in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And I don't see it. Now. I don't see I
Speaker 2: don't see the Steelers in the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't see.
Speaker 8: I don't see the Steelers get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And I just don't see that. I don't see that.
Speaker 8: I think we're gonna put money on you, put your
Speaker 8: money on the bills and maybe put you some money
Speaker 8: down there on the.
Speaker 4: Side on the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: And and I'm not I'm not a big Ravens fan,
Speaker 1: either of them getting it all the way to the
Speaker 1: big I'm not a.
Speaker 8: Big Ravens fan at all. I think I think people
Speaker 8: get all harp to hyped up into Lamar Jackson. Whether
Speaker 8: it takes more than Lamar Jackson to get you to
Speaker 8: the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Even with the loss to Buffalo at home. The Lions
Speaker 1: are still my team in the NFC. Have you seen
Speaker 1: anybody else that comes close?
Speaker 2: No? No, no.
Speaker 8: I mean the Eagles are dangerous, but I think Dan
Speaker 8: Campbell is a better coach than the Eagles coach and
Speaker 8: I could come down the coaching decisions there when the
Speaker 8: pressure is on.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh so we're heading to uh we got
Speaker 1: next week. We got big Browns, the Browns, that's.
Speaker 8: Right, They and they and they and then from all indications,
Speaker 8: I think Jamius Winston's going to be put on the
Speaker 8: bench and they're gonna go with their third their third
Speaker 8: string quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals have been beaten by by lesser quarterback.
Speaker 8: Don't don't bring that up.
Speaker 1: I know, but maybe maybe if the secondary plays the
Speaker 1: way they played against Tennessee yesterday, we'll see a lot
Speaker 1: more i nts and a lot more defensive scores for
Speaker 1: the Bengals next week against Cleveland, because they are going
Speaker 1: to need that kind of help.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no margin for error with this team,
Speaker 2: wild man, at.
Speaker 8: All, Absolutely no margin, Like I said, six percent chance.
Speaker 8: They need a lot from other teams that's never worked
Speaker 8: out in their favor. And if they could finished nine
Speaker 8: and eight, that'd be great. Kudos to them to have
Speaker 8: a winning season. And I know the guys down there
Speaker 8: are not quitting, you know. I saw that big miludmouth
Speaker 8: stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith the other day saying the Dallas Cowboys and just
Speaker 4: tanked the season.
Speaker 8: Players have too much pride to tank. The players have
Speaker 8: too much play. Plus they're playing for jobs then come
Speaker 8: out to come out ever say, plus they need to
Speaker 8: tank the season. Would you want guys on your team
Speaker 8: just to quit?
Speaker 2: Well, wild man, I would agree. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think the players are going to tank the season,
Speaker 1: but I do believe organizations sometimes as a rule, tank
Speaker 1: the season at a certain point for positioning going into
Speaker 1: next year. Organizations, organizations tank seasons, not players.
Speaker 8: Players aren't going to do that at all. Just to
Speaker 8: hear them to say that, they say that was just idiotic.
Speaker 1: No, but what they general, a general manager and an
Speaker 1: owner in cahoots can tank seasons.
Speaker 2: And we've seen that over and over again.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, we could see that. Yeah, but they're
Speaker 4: not gonna have the players just give up.
Speaker 5: No way, no way?
Speaker 2: All right? Can I get a wild man who day
Speaker 2: as we finish?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Do you want a who day who?
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You're right on, right on, Paul.
Speaker 8: Uh, I've got I'm feeling good. The Bengals will take
Speaker 8: care of the Browns, and now we'll worry about the broncause, well,
Speaker 8: the Bengals know the Browns have already beat the Browns
Speaker 8: this year. I don't care what quarterback they got. Joe
Speaker 8: Burrow wants to wants this win bad. It comes Sunday,
Speaker 8: it goes the Browns. You know that they've kind of
Speaker 8: been a thorn in his side. Bengals will be ready
Speaker 8: for this game, big time.
Speaker 4: They'll be ready.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow forever third string quarterbacks never, I like it.
Speaker 2: Take care wild Man, all right, talk to you soon, pal.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: Joel Gilbert find out who he is next on the
Speaker 1: Nightcap on seven hundred W l W.
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Speaker 1: Into another hour of the Nightcap on this Monday evening,
Speaker 1: December sixteenth, seven hundred WLW Garry Jeff into this hour
Speaker 1: with something that is extremely interesting to me. In fact,
Speaker 1: many many different facets of interest involved with this guest.
Speaker 1: He is a documentary filmmaker, president of Highway sixty one
Speaker 1: Entertainment and many other things. As you will hear in
Speaker 1: the next few minutes. His name is Joel Gilbert. It's
Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you, Joel, thanks for being on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. All right, So.
Speaker 1: Right now we're focusing on your latest work, The Climate
Speaker 1: According to ai Al. When I first saw the title
Speaker 1: of this, I mean just brilliant right from the gat,
Speaker 1: because you actually have an ai generated Al Gore in.
Speaker 2: This documentary who is coming to task with all of
Speaker 2: the statements, misstatements and the propaganda he's pushed on climate
Speaker 2: change over the last thirty some years, and if you
Speaker 2: can elaborate a little bit more on this particular film
Speaker 2: and how you came to the idea of the AI
Speaker 2: generated al Gore confronting these questions.
Speaker 9: All right, well, this film pretty much blows the lid
Speaker 9: off the whole climate emergency hoax. And I do this
Speaker 9: by looking at where the whole climate science came from,
Speaker 9: and it came from al Gore. He's kind of the
Speaker 9: godfather of the movement. He introduced this idea in nineteen
Speaker 9: ninety two in his book Earth and the Balance, claiming
Speaker 9: there was a while I'm in an emergency, there was
Speaker 9: an apocalypse coming, and it was all based on carbon dioxide,
Speaker 9: saying that there's too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
Speaker 9: humans are putting it into the atmosphere, and the whole
Speaker 9: place is going to flood. We're all going to die
Speaker 9: if you don't have this centralized government and do what
Speaker 9: I say. So I went and researched al Gore. I
Speaker 9: did that because I actually worked for him as a
Speaker 9: student intern in nineteen eighty nine when he was a
Speaker 9: Conservative US Senator from Tennessee. I worked in his office
Speaker 9: as an intern, So I got to know him a
Speaker 9: little bit, and I looked at a lot of his statements,
Speaker 9: including his two thousand and six movie called Inconvenient Truth.
Speaker 9: And Gore always said, I'm not a climate scientist. I'm
Speaker 9: no scientist, but I got my science from taking a
Speaker 9: course at Harvard for three months with a professor named
Speaker 9: Roger Ravel, And that's where all this comes from. And
Speaker 9: I realized that no one ever looked into it. So
Speaker 9: I went down to the University of San Diego and
Speaker 9: looked at the papers of this Harvard professor. There's stored there,
Speaker 9: and it turns out, first of all, took a class
Speaker 9: in human populations. It was about the population explosion. It
Speaker 9: had nothing to do with climate science, nothing to do
Speaker 9: about the atmosphere. Gore gets a C in the class
Speaker 9: that he took for one semester. And this professor, it
Speaker 9: turns out, reading his books and articles over forty years,
Speaker 9: he completely disagreed with everything how Gore was saying about
Speaker 9: carbon dioxide. So this completely blows the lid off of it. Secondly,
Speaker 9: I looked at I said, well, where did Gore get
Speaker 9: this climate apocalypse from? And I realized Gore went to
Speaker 9: Divinity School in Nashville to the University of Vanderbolt University
Speaker 9: in nineteen seventy one to get out of the Vietnam War.
Speaker 9: It was kind of a draft Dodgers Haven, and he
Speaker 9: had these radical environmental professors there, and he had to
Speaker 9: read a book called Our Plundered Planet from nineteen forties.
Speaker 9: It was kind of this wacky book saying that there's
Speaker 9: going to be this big climate apocalypse and humans are
Speaker 9: ruining the Earth. I read this book. It turns out
Speaker 9: that Gore plagiarized and copied this wacky book from the
Speaker 9: forties to create his whole climate apocalypse. So Gore is
Speaker 9: exposed as a complete fraud and where he even brought
Speaker 9: this climate science to the world. And the reason I
Speaker 9: came up with the AI concept is because I emailed
Speaker 9: Al Gore and I said, hey, I've done the research.
Speaker 9: I've looked at your Harvard professor. It turns out he
Speaker 9: didn't agree with you at all, and I'd like to
Speaker 9: interview you. Now he knows me, so he should have responded,
Speaker 9: but he didn't. So I realized you could recreate the
Speaker 9: voice and video of somebody today using AI technology, and
Speaker 9: so that's what I did. So the whole movie. I'm
Speaker 9: actually interviewing al Gore. It looks like Gore, it sounds
Speaker 9: like Gore, but in this case he's giving an honest
Speaker 9: depiction of his whole life history and an honest assessment
Speaker 9: of where his climate science really came from.
Speaker 1: So the AI al Gore is truthful, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 9: I put the words in his mouth, but it's really
Speaker 9: it's based on reading six biographies, hundreds of interviews of
Speaker 9: al Gore. It really is a lot of truth to it.
Speaker 9: But he does in the end of the movie, he
Speaker 9: actually fesss up about what climate science really is. That
Speaker 9: it's a complete fraud. It's the same old scam to
Speaker 9: convince people to agree to central planning and wealth redistribution,
Speaker 9: things that they would never vote for.
Speaker 1: It's something that in the ensuing years, even the UN
Speaker 1: climate people that there was a woman who famously and
Speaker 1: I cannot remember her name, Joel right now a few
Speaker 1: years back, admitted that it really wasn't about climate change
Speaker 1: at all or a climate crisis.
Speaker 2: It was about redistribution of wealth.
Speaker 1: I mean, in their own words, if you go deep
Speaker 1: enough into the discussion with them, you get it. What
Speaker 1: they're really all about, and it's about redistribution of wealth,
Speaker 1: redistribution of power, and as you said, globalization and the
Speaker 1: centralization of all power in one place. You know that
Speaker 1: is just so medieval almost as a model for the
Speaker 1: way people should live. With them at the top of
Speaker 1: the chain and all the rest of us, they're underlings
Speaker 1: who were going to do whatever they say because well
Speaker 1: they know better now. As a former resident of the
Speaker 1: state of Tennessee, when al Gore was senator in Tennessee
Speaker 1: in the late nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, before his
Speaker 1: run for president, before his appearance as are vice president
Speaker 1: under Bill Clinton, I knew al Gore, I thought pretty well,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't necessarily all that well liked by residents
Speaker 1: of the volunteer state. If you look at the two
Speaker 1: thousand election, it says as much about al Gore as
Speaker 1: anything before that, because the residents of the state of Tennessee,
Speaker 1: who knew him best, said, this man has no business
Speaker 1: being in the oval office.
Speaker 2: So I mean, al Gore has.
Speaker 4: Let me comment. Let me comment al Gore.
Speaker 9: You learn in this movie how al Gore got into politics.
Speaker 9: It was because his father was a US senator from Tennessee.
Speaker 9: And his parents raised him to be president. They raised
Speaker 9: him to be president. One day, Gore gets into politics
Speaker 9: at age of twenty six. He runs for Congress and
Speaker 9: Tennessee in nineteen seventy six. He quickly realizes that he
Speaker 9: has no personality for politics. He understands he can't give
Speaker 9: a speech, he has no charisma, and he can't really
Speaker 9: communicate with people. So he realizes he needs issues in
Speaker 9: order to get people to vote for him to fulfill
Speaker 9: the ambitions of his parents to be president. So when
Speaker 9: he gets to Congress, he realizes it's a center right country.
Speaker 9: It's Ronald Reagan gets elected. He decides to make himself
Speaker 9: an arms control expert, and he actually becomes kind of
Speaker 9: a defense hawk and a very conservative congressman and US Senator.
Speaker 9: He actually puts together an arms control proposal to settle
Speaker 9: with the Soviet Union, and Ronald Reagan ignores that Gore
Speaker 9: and wins the Cold War, you know, without him, And
Speaker 9: that's when in the late eighties, Gore realized that he
Speaker 9: needed a new issue in order to get to the
Speaker 9: White House. So he chose environmentalism because it was a
Speaker 9: very strong subject for Democrat voters were concerned about the
Speaker 9: Chernobyl disaster at the time exon Valdez spill, and he
Speaker 9: felt environmentalism was an issue that crossed all class lines.
Speaker 9: He couldn't go wrong. So that's when he decided to
Speaker 9: come out with this book Earth in the Balance, where
Speaker 9: he called for this climate emergency. I think I proved
Speaker 9: in my film that he got it all from Divinity
Speaker 9: School and from this wacky book he copied, and not
Speaker 9: from miss Harvard professor. And by the way, you can
Speaker 9: watch the movie trailer at climate algore dot com and
Speaker 9: link up to where you can watch the movie live
Speaker 9: streaming to get the DVD climate algore dot com. So
Speaker 9: that's when Gore turned to environmentalism, but it was so
Speaker 9: extreme that people kind of made fun of it and
Speaker 9: didn't really pay attention to it. When Gore was vice
Speaker 9: president with Clinton, he didn't really do very much on
Speaker 9: the environment. When he ran for president again, George Bush
Speaker 9: Gore didn't say anything about Earth and the Balance climate nothing,
Speaker 9: because it was so extreme. It was only years later
Speaker 9: when he came out with his film based on his
Speaker 9: lecture in two thousand and six and Inconvenient Truth, that
Speaker 9: these other movements kind of took over the narrative and
Speaker 9: turned it into this big international religion where you're a believer,
Speaker 9: you're not a believer. If you believe in climate science,
Speaker 9: you're good. If you don't, you're heretics. So that's where
Speaker 9: it kind of went into a different direction. But that's
Speaker 9: how Gore came into this environmentalism.
Speaker 2: How was the movie? I know that you screened this.
Speaker 1: You did a tour in Australia, and the Australians bid into,
Speaker 1: like many people in this country bid into the climate
Speaker 1: emergency thing, hook line and sinker.
Speaker 9: It's much more extreme in Europe and Australia. The climate
Speaker 9: policies are through the roof. They don't allow certain kinds
Speaker 9: of farming, they have big restrictions. Every law that passes
Speaker 9: in Australia has to first go through the Climate Committee.
Speaker 9: So they're much more as bad as it is here.
Speaker 9: They're much more into the hysteria in other countries. So
Speaker 9: there are a lot of skeptics in Australia. And we
Speaker 9: screened the film, including at their Federal Parliament building in
Speaker 9: Canberra and all over the country Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, and
Speaker 9: the reaction was tremendous. People came up to me at
Speaker 9: the screening and they said, Wow, I feel like I
Speaker 9: just got deprogrammed. So the movie really has a big
Speaker 9: effect because there have been climate hoax movies around, but
Speaker 9: it's kind of like a lecture of talking heads. This
Speaker 9: goes to look at the godfather who brought this climate
Speaker 9: theory to the world, and it's Al Gore. He is
Speaker 9: the most influential person I think on the world in
Speaker 9: the last thirty years.
Speaker 4: Because of it.
Speaker 1: So the question then becomes Joel, because these are being
Speaker 1: debunked to not by just your documentary, but by real
Speaker 1: scientists that I have on this program. Quite often, Gregory writes, done,
Speaker 1: for example, who's the executive director of the CO two
Speaker 1: Coalition in Washington, d C. Steve Gorham and many who
Speaker 1: wrote written books on the real science and what the
Speaker 1: science says about CO two and warming the warming planet,
Speaker 1: the warming climate, And.
Speaker 2: So I mean this is being debunked.
Speaker 1: Al Gore has no political career at all ahead of him,
Speaker 1: and those days were done. Why does he continue to
Speaker 1: cling to this because it's become so much a part
Speaker 1: of how people know him, his persona, that he can't
Speaker 1: let go when there is just so much evidence that
Speaker 1: shows that.
Speaker 2: This is all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Look, every prediction Al Gore made beginning in the nineties
Speaker 9: up through the two thousands that yes, the ice captor melting,
Speaker 9: the coastal cities are going to flood. Every single prediction
Speaker 9: he made turned out to be bunk.
Speaker 4: It was all bunk.
Speaker 9: And every time one of his predictions didn't come true,
Speaker 9: he would simply try to change it a little bit
Speaker 9: to make it true. For example, when he started in
Speaker 9: ninety two with Earth in the balance, he said it
Speaker 9: was global warming. But what happened is the Earth and
Speaker 9: the winters kept getting colder year by year. So up
Speaker 9: through two thousand and eight it kept getting colder. So
Speaker 9: they realized that no one was buying into it, so
Speaker 9: they changed the terminology to climate change instead of global warming.
Speaker 9: They say, well, it's just climate change. So to this day,
Speaker 9: ever since then, even at the COP twenty nine, whatever
Speaker 9: these conventions they have, Gore shows up and he screams,
Speaker 9: there was one hundred and ten degree weather in Las
Speaker 9: Vegas in July last year, there was a hurricane, there
Speaker 9: was a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico in September,
Speaker 9: screaming about natural normal weather events and claiming its represents
Speaker 9: climate change. So that's what he's been doing ever since.
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's that's basically his meal ticket. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's all.
Speaker 9: He can't really admit that his entire main body of work.
Speaker 9: Don't forget, as I told you, because his destiny in
Speaker 9: life was to become president. When he failed at it twice,
Speaker 9: he ran for president twice and failed, he saw being
Speaker 9: the head of this international climate movement as an even
Speaker 9: better step to fulfill his ambitions and the destiny that
Speaker 9: his parents had designed for him. So it's kind of
Speaker 9: being president of the world, president of the worldwide movement.
Speaker 9: So I think Gordon needs it psychologically. He can't admit
Speaker 9: and say I was wrong, because then it's another defeat,
Speaker 9: just like it was losing to George Bush.
Speaker 1: This is obviously the latest greatest from Joel Gilbert the
Speaker 1: Climate according to ai al Gore, which I just think.
Speaker 1: I still think that's such a brilliant concept, man. I
Speaker 1: got to give you, give you that, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk real briefly about some of the other work
Speaker 1: that you've done and maybe in a sentence or two
Speaker 1: describe for people who may not have seen them. Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9: What's that I made the film called Michelle Obama twenty
Speaker 9: twenty four, showing that she really was positioning herself to
Speaker 9: be the nominee. In twenty twenty four, I predicted that
Speaker 9: Biden would be removed, which he was, but I think
Speaker 9: out of spite, he immediately endorsed Kamala Harris within twenty
Speaker 9: minutes to out maneuver the Obamas who were who held
Speaker 9: out for another couple of weeks for an open convention.
Speaker 9: And I think that's how Biden kind of got his
Speaker 9: revenge on Obama for pushing him aside. And no one
Speaker 9: was happier that Trump won than Joe Biden when you
Speaker 9: saw when Trump came to the White House. Oh yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm also Yeah, I'm also pretty well known for Dreams
Speaker 9: for My Real Father. Yeah, where I think I proved
Speaker 9: that Obama's entire background story of being the son of
Speaker 9: a Kenyan student was false. I think I proved that
Speaker 9: his real biological father was the man who raised him
Speaker 9: in Hawaiian and Frank Marshall Davis, who was also a
Speaker 9: Russian agent looks like him, raised him, and Obama tried
Speaker 9: to emulate him his whole life. So I've made a
Speaker 9: number of political documentaries, including Trump The Art of the Insult.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that, and don't you
Speaker 1: find and did you find in making Trump The Art
Speaker 1: of the Insult that this is part of Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: power and that insults can be very, very positive if
Speaker 1: used in the right way.
Speaker 9: Well, I would say from this film you find out
Speaker 9: that Trump really is a marketing genius. He's a marketing guy.
Speaker 9: He's all marketing all the time, and he uses insults
Speaker 9: or giving people funny names as a way to communicate
Speaker 9: and to market, and that's how he kind of controls
Speaker 9: the narrative, he controls the press. In twenty sixteen, he
Speaker 9: wiped out sixteen other competitors. He plowed through Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 9: So it's this marketing genius that other politicians don't have
Speaker 9: is what allowed him to take over the Republican Party
Speaker 9: and ultimately gain the White House now twice.
Speaker 1: Well, it is kind of a maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: if kinder, but it is kind of a gentler Donald
Speaker 1: Trump we're seeing now, but he still employs this ability.
Speaker 1: I'd love the photo of him taking mccrone's hand and
Speaker 1: turning it over for the photo up in France.
Speaker 2: I love him. I love him calling Justin Trudeau the governor.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Look, he combined entertainment with politics. Don't forget that. Trump
Speaker 9: really wasn't a real estate guy when he got elected president.
Speaker 9: He was an entertainer. He'd been on the Apprentice for
Speaker 9: years on TV. He'd been a TV star and entertainer
Speaker 9: with Miss America and wrestling. So he brought entertainment to politics,
Speaker 9: and the other politicians just couldn't handle it. They weren't
Speaker 9: able to understand the jokes. The media couldn't understand it,
Speaker 9: but the people understood it, and that's why he became
Speaker 9: president twice. I'm also pretty well known for the Trayvon hoax,
Speaker 9: where I showed that the case against George Zimmerman with
Speaker 9: Trevor Martin shooting in twenty twelve was completely politically motivated
Speaker 9: to help Barack Obama get reelected, and that they use
Speaker 9: a fake witness. People remember the hefty Haitian American girl,
Speaker 9: Rachel Gentel, who was two years older and one hundred
Speaker 9: and fifty pounds heavier than Trayvon. They put her up
Speaker 9: on the stand to claim that she was Trayvon's girlfriend
Speaker 9: who was on the phone with him. Well, I proved
Speaker 9: it was a different girl, and she's in the movie,
Speaker 9: and you show I showed that the entire black lives matter.
Speaker 9: Everything that's happened since then and was founded on that
Speaker 9: case was a complete hoax and based on witness fraud
Speaker 9: and witness tampering by Ben Crump and the State of Florida.
Speaker 1: Finally, and we will reiterate the newest documentary in just
Speaker 1: a moment to end up. But I may be the
Speaker 1: only person that's listening to this conversation that actually owned
Speaker 1: as a teenager Bob Dylan's Slow Train Coming. You had
Speaker 1: a documentary called Bob Dylan's Jesus Years. That's just very
Speaker 1: timely with the new Dylan movie out.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, the Dylan's Uh. I've made actually five documentaries
Speaker 9: on Bob Dylan's career from the beginning and the religious years.
Speaker 9: When he became an evangelical Christian in the late seventies,
Speaker 9: joining the Jesus People Jesus movement, it really was as
Speaker 9: profound as when he went from acoustic to electric music.
Speaker 9: It really alienated his fans, but it gained new fans
Speaker 9: for him. So to this day, Dylan still performs those
Speaker 9: songs and I think audiences appreciate those religious songs now
Speaker 9: a lot more than they did at the time.
Speaker 1: It may be the devil, or it may be the Lord,
Speaker 1: but you've got to serve somebody. Joel Gilbert the climate
Speaker 1: according to ai al Gore, give me the address again
Speaker 1: where people can stream that jewel.
Speaker 9: Yeah, go to climatealgore dot com, Climate algore dot com,
Speaker 9: watch the trailer and you can click on where to
Speaker 9: stream it in different places or get the.
Speaker 1: DVD fan ted. Thank you so much. This has been great.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time. You got right. It's the
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Speaker 1: Little bit, because it's just it's such a great piece
Speaker 1: of nostalgia, among other things, our next guest, I mean
Speaker 1: today he's the chief strategic officer at his Glory TV
Speaker 1: and has these wonderful movies that you need to know
Speaker 1: about because there has been a war on truth in
Speaker 1: this country, especially over the last four to five years,
Speaker 1: but maybe longer than that. He was he was in
Speaker 1: Ferris Bueller's Day Off as Matthew Brodericks Dance double. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, among other things, most importantly up to now,
Speaker 1: Chris Bergard, how are you, sir?
Speaker 10: Every day is Christmas?
Speaker 5: Gary?
Speaker 10: Every day?
Speaker 2: All right? Fantas? I agree? I agree?
Speaker 1: So how did that? I got to know? How did
Speaker 1: that come about? I mean, you were out in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: You were just trying to get into the business, I guess,
Speaker 1: and it did spawn off several other guest roles for
Speaker 1: you in TV and movies as the years ensued.
Speaker 11: But how did Actually I was actually on scholarship in
Speaker 11: Chicago at Ruth Page Chicago Ballet and got hired to
Speaker 11: be his one of his dance doubles. And that got
Speaker 11: me into the business. I worked with Kenny Ortega, who's
Speaker 11: the choreographer, a big director that got me out to Hollywood.
Speaker 11: Had a wonderful career in Hollywood, going from dancing to acting,
Speaker 11: to writing to directing. And in two thousand and five
Speaker 11: I did a movie That's What. That's when God put
Speaker 11: me on his whole other path, which is awesome. I
Speaker 11: did a movie about the border in two thousand and
Speaker 11: five called Border, which ended up screening for Congress.
Speaker 10: I've had three films screening for Congress.
Speaker 11: Another movie about the border called Death County, the River,
Speaker 11: Broken Dreams that I did with Tom Holman, and then
Speaker 11: The War in Truth.
Speaker 3: The War in.
Speaker 11: Truth movie is our second movie about January sixth. The
Speaker 11: first film we did was Capital Punishment. Everything they told
Speaker 11: you about j six was a lie. I was there
Speaker 11: that day with my family, my partner, Nick Seccy, and
Speaker 11: I recognized a lot of what was going on because
Speaker 11: I had been in Central America. I'm covering an attempted
Speaker 11: coup down there, and I saw a lot of the
Speaker 11: same things happen on Jay six. And after we released
Speaker 11: that movie, I didn't get an Academy Award, but I
Speaker 11: did get investigated by the FBI as a Paris director
Speaker 11: of the United States of America, which is part of
Speaker 11: the reason why Nick and I decided to make the sequel,
Speaker 11: because it's like, if they're doing this to you, an
Speaker 11: award winning filmmaker from a law enforcement family, whose dad
Speaker 11: graduated from one hundred ninth session of the FBI Academy,
Speaker 11: what are they doing to other folks up there?
Speaker 2: And I love I love Nick Searsly too.
Speaker 1: I mean I I became a big Nick Searcy fan
Speaker 1: during the during the show Justified.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 2: He really is. He really is.
Speaker 1: All right, So, so you were you were at J six.
Speaker 1: I've talked to so many people who were there who
Speaker 1: were also I talked to Tim Hale, who spent almost
Speaker 1: three years in prison just because he was at the
Speaker 1: Capitol that day, and all of the other things that
Speaker 1: have come out since, and and there's still a slow trickle.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about The War on Truth, which
Speaker 1: is the latest documentary. Tell tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: more about the War on Truth and we'll get back
Speaker 1: to J six after that.
Speaker 11: Well, The War on Truth was our follow up movie
Speaker 11: to January sixth, and it's it's such a dangerous movie
Speaker 11: to the false narrative out there, because.
Speaker 10: When you show people the truth, they believe it.
Speaker 11: That's why Capital Punishment is the most censored movie of
Speaker 11: twenty twenty two, and arguably Warren Truth has been the
Speaker 11: most censored movie of twenty twenty four. We not only
Speaker 11: show how the government is persecuting Americans of all shapes,
Speaker 11: all sizes, of all colors, but particularly how they're going
Speaker 11: after Christians for san empton speaking the truth. You'll see
Speaker 11: that when you see people like Master Sergeant Jeremy Brown,
Speaker 11: when you see former law enforcement officer Colt Macabee in
Speaker 11: prison for over two years awaiting before they even got
Speaker 11: their first trial. But then you also see how this
Speaker 11: was a psychological operation run with military precision. We even
Speaker 11: lay out and put out there should there ever be
Speaker 11: a real investigation to January sixth, who the players were
Speaker 11: and how what happened in Ukraine in twenty fourteen, and
Speaker 11: the taker of that government was actually address rehearsal for.
Speaker 10: What happened on January sixth?
Speaker 2: Do you believe me?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Chris, do you believe as I do that
Speaker 1: when he was testifying this past week, I guess last
Speaker 1: week Christopher Ray when he said there were no undercover
Speaker 1: agents from the FBI at January sixth. There were confidential
Speaker 1: human sources or resources. But do you believe that there
Speaker 1: were actually undercover agents from the FBI that involved in
Speaker 1: inciting that crowd and ginning up the sky out.
Speaker 10: Agents, consultants, contractors. I believe they had all three of those.
Speaker 10: And Christopher Ray.
Speaker 11: Misrepresenting the truth to Congress goes way back. And we
Speaker 11: filmed people changing out of black block clothes on January
Speaker 11: sixth into Trump support of clothes.
Speaker 10: And then they tried to get us to attack the
Speaker 10: Capitol Police. We called them out. We filmed it, calling
Speaker 10: them out as infiltrators.
Speaker 11: I ran into FBI agents on the ground that day
Speaker 11: and I said, hey, you got bad guys over here?
Speaker 10: To point them out to you. No, we're good.
Speaker 11: Well, these these folks are trying to get us to
Speaker 11: attack the Capitol police.
Speaker 10: I have them on film. Would you like those images
Speaker 10: or do you want to make a report? No, we're good.
Speaker 11: So that day in January sixth, I thought, Okay, they've
Speaker 11: got this handled. When I saw they didn't have it handled.
Speaker 11: And a few weeks later for Chris Ray to come
Speaker 11: out and say, and this is the one of several
Speaker 11: times he said this to Congress unsworn testimony, that we
Speaker 11: saw no evidence of ANTIFA or BLM or anarchist type
Speaker 11: organizations infiltrated in the crowds that day. Okay, that's just
Speaker 11: that's just false. We saw them. My three letter buddies
Speaker 11: saw them. My military buddies were that day. We all
Speaker 11: saw them. We filmed them, they filmed themselves, and in
Speaker 11: the case of John Sullivan in the Capitol, filmed himself
Speaker 11: bragging about it, about about setting the whole thing up.
Speaker 11: So that's patently false. And here's here's what people need
Speaker 11: to take a look about. Everybody needs to go see
Speaker 11: the movie The War on Truth. But if you haven't,
Speaker 11: let me just I can explain to you right now
Speaker 11: how the cover up always gets them, and how the
Speaker 11: lies can and on what a huge level it is
Speaker 11: to push the false narrative of January sixth. You've heard,
Speaker 11: even up until a few months ago. You've heard Joe Biden,
Speaker 11: you've heard the mainstream media, you've heard the DOJ, you've
Speaker 11: heard the FBI repeat over and over. Five law enforcement
Speaker 11: officers died on January sixth.
Speaker 10: That is a complete fallacy. Officer Brian sick Nick. Everyone
Speaker 10: we talked to he was a.
Speaker 11: Hect of a guy where sorry, he's passed, but he
Speaker 11: passed with natural causes. On the seventh he did not
Speaker 11: die from being bludged to death with a fire extinguisher.
Speaker 10: By MAGA supporters. And the other four officers.
Speaker 11: That died died of suicides week and months later.
Speaker 10: That's the truth.
Speaker 11: So you have to ask yourself, why would they say
Speaker 11: a lie like that over and over and over. Well,
Speaker 11: there's a great guy named Joseph Gebels when they wrote
Speaker 11: the prophaganda playbook for a guy named Hitler. He said,
Speaker 11: if you make the lie big enough and you tell
Speaker 11: it often enough, it becomes truth to the state and
Speaker 11: thus to the people. By everybody believed in this line,
Speaker 11: no one's paying attention. And four people that died that
Speaker 11: day were Trump supporters. What was actually about? She was shot,
Speaker 11: another one, Roseanne Boyling, was unconscious and then according was
Speaker 11: beaten three more times.
Speaker 10: We have that on film, and according to.
Speaker 11: Eyewitnesses that were there, they said that the third blow
Speaker 11: from Officer Island Morris is what killed Roseanne. And then
Speaker 11: you have the two fellows that died of Benjamin Phillips
Speaker 11: and Kevin Greeson that died of heart attacks. You'll see
Speaker 11: in the War on Truth. One of these guys is
Speaker 11: just standing there, not mind his own business. I'm away
Speaker 11: from the Capitol, on the far side of the protests,
Speaker 11: and they launched a flash bang all over the crowd,
Speaker 11: hits him in the chest, explodes. The guy next to
Speaker 11: him screams, turns away, his face is burned. And this
Speaker 11: other fellow goes down and his heart stops. And the
Speaker 11: next time you see him, he's being on a gurney,
Speaker 11: wheeled out and he dies of a heart attack. Right,
Speaker 11: these are the things that need to be investigated. These
Speaker 11: are the things that the American people needs to know. And
Speaker 11: you haven't known that because we've just been hit with
Speaker 11: propaganda for four years, and the War on Truth ties
Speaker 11: everything together and you not only see to the curtain,
Speaker 11: but you understand that this is a psychological operation run.
Speaker 10: With military precision.
Speaker 11: And as former Capitol Police Lieutenant Tariq Johnson says, on
Speaker 11: that day, everybody on the ground, Capitol Police and MAGA supporters,
Speaker 11: we were set up. We were all set up. And
Speaker 11: if we have time, I'll explain to you how he
Speaker 11: changed that data.
Speaker 1: Now we've got plenty of time, Chris, go ahead talking
Speaker 1: to Chris Burgard, who is number one chief strategic officer
Speaker 1: at his glory, and we'll talk about that organization too
Speaker 1: before we're done. Christ the movie Capital Punishment, everything they
Speaker 1: told you about Jay six was a lie and it's SEQEL,
Speaker 1: which is out now called the War on Truth, and
Speaker 1: please continue.
Speaker 2: You were on a line then you said, if we
Speaker 2: have time, So here's the time.
Speaker 10: Chris, thank you, sir.
Speaker 11: Is bad as January sixth was, and for as many
Speaker 11: people that died, I believe, and you'll see in the
Speaker 11: movie that the people that orchestrated this event wanted many,
Speaker 11: many more people to die.
Speaker 10: And here's what happened that screwed that up.
Speaker 4: Two things.
Speaker 11: First of all, they had intelligence coming in from many
Speaker 11: different organizations saying how big the crowd.
Speaker 10: Was going to be, saying they might be problems. You'll
Speaker 10: see in the movie.
Speaker 11: That intelligence was held up by a woman named Yoganata Pittman,
Speaker 11: who was an assistant captain to Capitol Police that day.
Speaker 11: And the rules of engagement for the Capitol Police to
Speaker 11: use deadly force is that if you were defending bodies.
Speaker 11: If you're defending senators, if you're defending congressmen, that you
Speaker 11: can use deadly force to protect them. But if it's
Speaker 11: only real estate, if it's just property, you're not allowed
Speaker 11: to use deadly force.
Speaker 10: So here's what happened on January sixth.
Speaker 11: Things are out of hand, the breach starts, and there's
Speaker 11: a lieutenant named Tarik Johnson. He sees that there's going
Speaker 11: to be a problem. He radio is in and asked
Speaker 11: for permission to clear the house floor and clear the
Speaker 11: Senate chambers. And he's on there asking for about twenty
Speaker 11: minutes and he doesn't get a reply back. He doesn't
Speaker 11: get a reply back. That's not normal. You asked he
Speaker 11: sent something up to change. They say yes, they say no,
Speaker 11: you do your job, especially there's something this big happening.
Speaker 11: So what Tarik does is on his own, he makes
Speaker 11: the call to evacuate the Senate chambers and after he
Speaker 11: gets that done, he goes to evacuate the floor of Congress.
Speaker 11: That changed the rules of engagement. If he would have
Speaker 11: gotten permission to do this about twenty minutes earlier, or
Speaker 11: if Yogan out of Pittman would have given the order
Speaker 11: that they would have been able to do him simultaneously
Speaker 11: clear the Senate and the House. Ashley Babbitt would still
Speaker 11: be alive because the rules of engagement would have changed.
Speaker 11: Lieutenant Bird would not have had the authority to fire
Speaker 11: in anybody, let alone an un armed five ft three,
Speaker 11: one hundred and sixteen pound woman.
Speaker 10: If Tarik would have done this.
Speaker 11: Ten fifteen minutes later, when the majority of those people
Speaker 11: came through and went in the chambers, they would have
Speaker 11: been met with deadly force, and you would have had,
Speaker 11: I don't know, it would have been a blood death,
Speaker 11: and you would have had American blood.
Speaker 10: Running down the halls of Congress. And I believe one
Speaker 10: hundred and ten percent of my heart and soul.
Speaker 11: That that was the plan of the people that planned
Speaker 11: January sixth.
Speaker 10: That's what they wanted to have happened.
Speaker 2: Is uh?
Speaker 1: Is Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer both complicit in what
Speaker 1: happened on January sixth?
Speaker 10: It goes bigger than that.
Speaker 11: But I'll tell you something that you'll see in the
Speaker 11: war truth that Nancy Pelosi did.
Speaker 10: There's a congressman here from I live in Texas.
Speaker 11: We have a congressman out here, Troy Nells Troynills is
Speaker 11: an old war dog, a decorated military then he was
Speaker 11: a sheriff for years before he came a congressman.
Speaker 10: So when Troy, now, this is a guy who.
Speaker 5: Knows how to run an investigation.
Speaker 11: When he started running his own investigation, investigating the false
Speaker 11: narrative of J six and started speaking out about it,
Speaker 11: his office was raided by the Capitol Police, who answered
Speaker 11: at the time to Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 10: His office was rated over.
Speaker 11: A Thanksgiving weekend when they thought no one was going
Speaker 11: to be there, and they were caught by a staffer.
Speaker 10: Who didn't take off for the for the vacation, and
Speaker 10: they came in there. This is this is like this
Speaker 10: is this is like, you know.
Speaker 11: Crazy old stuff. They they came in there dressed as
Speaker 11: construction workers and maintenance fellas, and they got caught. And
Speaker 11: what Troy believes is the reason they did that was
Speaker 11: to get blackmail evidence on him to try to shut
Speaker 11: him up so he wouldn't speak out against the false
Speaker 11: Jay six narrative. That's that's that's that's more than implicit.
Speaker 11: That's being part of an active cover up. But it
Speaker 11: is I think goes bigger and deeper than just Pelosi
Speaker 11: and Schumer. I mean this thing, like I said, you
Speaker 11: have to take a look at this and see how
Speaker 11: deep it goes and see who's calling the shots, and
Speaker 11: we lay out people that need to be investigated. You
Speaker 11: need to look into the players that were behind what
Speaker 11: we did in Ukraine in twenty fourteen, and you need
Speaker 11: to see if some of those same players who we
Speaker 11: name in the movie, what their actions were leading up
Speaker 11: to and on January sixth. It's an intelligence operation run
Speaker 11: with military precision.
Speaker 1: It's no wonder that Joe did as we all expected,
Speaker 1: pardoning his son, But going back to twenty fourteen, when
Speaker 1: guess who was in Ukraine and getting money from Barisma
Speaker 1: and then funneling it back through to his father and
Speaker 1: family members and the like. So yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: talk about all this stuff that's going on under the
Speaker 1: radar of most Americans, and you know a lot of Americans, sadly, Chris,
Speaker 1: are headline readers, and they don't see anything. They don't
Speaker 1: dig any deeper. You know, they don't have the time
Speaker 1: to dig into something as important as this, like you
Speaker 1: have done with the War on Truth. Real quickly, tell
Speaker 1: me how people can see war on truth.
Speaker 11: Just go to the War on truthmovie dot com, The
Speaker 11: War ontruthmovie dot Com. And we looks like we're going
Speaker 11: to be released in a whole mini series on January sixth.
Speaker 11: The people need to see, but people need to understand
Speaker 11: what you just brought up with those pardons. I mean,
Speaker 11: we need to end a segment. But you can't have
Speaker 11: it both ways. You can't stand up and say these
Speaker 11: people are innocent. They're innocent, and then turn around and go,
Speaker 11: I'm gonna give them a preemptive pardon. Going back to
Speaker 11: twenty fourteen, I don't care what your politics are. That's
Speaker 11: an admission of guilt right there.
Speaker 1: Well, my politics are since you said you don't know,
Speaker 1: and I don't have to offer this to you, but
Speaker 1: my politics are. If I had been at the Capitol
Speaker 1: on January sixth, I probably would have been locked up too.
Speaker 11: Well, it we laid out in Capital Punishment how an
Speaker 11: intelligence operation like this works. You don't have to compromise
Speaker 11: every one of the two million people that were at
Speaker 11: the protest that day.
Speaker 10: You just need to grab take control of the head.
Speaker 11: It's called a captured operation, and just by putting it in
Speaker 11: a couple hundred infiltrators and everybody's talking about the FBI
Speaker 11: and their assets. No one's talking about the DHS agents
Speaker 11: that were in there, or the DEA agents, or the
Speaker 11: military guys or the intelligence contractors. There was a whole
Speaker 11: lot of bad guys in there that day, and they
Speaker 11: were filmed.
Speaker 5: They're on camera.
Speaker 11: Why do you think they still haven't released all the
Speaker 11: forty thousand hours of footage?
Speaker 1: Back to the Well, God, God bless you for the
Speaker 1: work you're doing, Chris, and thank you very much the
Speaker 1: war ontruth dot com, Chris.
Speaker 10: Virgo warmovie dot com.
Speaker 1: Warntruthmovie dot com. Thank you so much, Chris. God bless you,
Speaker 1: God bless you. Take care. Another hour of the night
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Speaker 1: Evening into our last hour tonight, and if the rest
Speaker 1: of the show hasn't been good enough for you, well
Speaker 1: just wait. There's a whole lot more to come, including
Speaker 1: our next guest, who's a paramedic and military veteran who
Speaker 1: has seen the truth up close and personal as a paramedic.
Speaker 1: And the truth I'm talking about is the truth about
Speaker 1: that we're not being told by Pfizer and the pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: companies and up to this point, by the DEA or
Speaker 1: the FDA about safe and effective vax genes. I call
Speaker 1: them vax genes because they're not vaccines, speaking specifically of
Speaker 1: mRNA and the COVID nineteen jabs. But this guy has
Speaker 1: seen it up close and for himself. What happens and
Speaker 1: what happened to all of our country as a result
Speaker 1: of the lockdowns, the distancing, and then the forced vaccination
Speaker 1: of people by by both scare tactics and by coercion
Speaker 1: of you're going to lose your job and and everything else.
Speaker 1: Harry Fisher is our guest in this half hour. Harry,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing well, Sarah. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So what moved you to, uh, to be involved with
Speaker 1: this safe and effective for profit of paramedic story exposing
Speaker 1: American genocide?
Speaker 4: Well, I was, I was.
Speaker 7: You're basically going to be reading a lot of my
Speaker 7: journal in there, because I've just I've been journaling and
Speaker 7: trying to post information out on you know, uh, social media,
Speaker 7: but I've been banned and censored like anyone else who's
Speaker 7: tried to speak since the start of all this. From
Speaker 7: the from the start, though, I noticed the media was
Speaker 7: lying when they were telling, you know, the entire world
Speaker 7: that we were swamped over run during COVID, because predominantly
Speaker 7: we weren't.
Speaker 5: It's slowed down during COVID.
Speaker 7: People weren't going out, we weren't running kids, you know,
Speaker 7: kids and stuff like calls on kids often until the
Speaker 7: shots started rolling out. Then our children's hospital got busy,
Speaker 7: and about the time they started really hitting the public
Speaker 7: with this gene therapy, the experimental COVID vaccines, I got
Speaker 7: a call to a Pfiser line. I call them Pfiser lines,
Speaker 7: you know those makeshift lines that they posted up in
Speaker 7: gymnasiums and you know, the street corners wherever they were
Speaker 7: wanting to give the shots. And I got a call
Speaker 7: to one of those, the Pfiser one, and a person
Speaker 7: had died after taking their shot. I was working the code,
Speaker 7: you know, I got in. I got in there, started
Speaker 7: working the code, doing CPR. People were watching, and the
Speaker 7: nurse came over and said, this is the second one
Speaker 7: in two weeks. So in that one makeshift line in Oklahoma,
Speaker 7: two people that I know of died after taking their shot.
Speaker 7: And none of this made front made the news. None
Speaker 7: of it even made local news. So there's no telling
Speaker 7: how many across the board have actually died right after
Speaker 7: taking their shots.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's so amazing. The whole COVID thing. I
Speaker 1: called it the scam demic, not the PAN. I called
Speaker 1: it the scam deemic from the very beginning. Other people
Speaker 1: have called it the planned where you had the NIH
Speaker 1: and FAUCI and all of the rest of those what
Speaker 1: I consider to be criminals in charge of America's health decisions.
Speaker 1: And we know that hospitals were incentivized. In fact, they
Speaker 1: were told list as many deaths as COVID death as possible,
Speaker 1: so you can stir this fear and mobilize people to
Speaker 1: follow the directives of the lockdowns and the seclusion and
Speaker 1: then get the jab. So, I mean, do you know
Speaker 1: anything personally about the incentivization of big hospital groups to
Speaker 1: declare somebody as a COVID death when actually they died
Speaker 1: of something entirely different. They may have had the virus,
Speaker 1: but they did not die of COVID nineteen. But this
Speaker 1: was just meant to defy the flames and to get
Speaker 1: people ready for this vaxed gene that they already had
Speaker 1: in the in the works.
Speaker 7: Well, I know they definitely had incentives they they we
Speaker 7: would I worked in New York City. We would put
Speaker 7: they would vent people pretty quick, and sadly, when people
Speaker 7: would die of COVID, I was told they would get
Speaker 7: up to, you know, an extra forty thousand dollars. I
Speaker 7: never did the paperwork on that, but I was just
Speaker 7: hearing about it in the hospital and hearing people talk
Speaker 7: about it, I would try to coach my patients. I
Speaker 7: would try to tell them, you know, you don't want
Speaker 7: to be on the vents, just relax because as soon.
Speaker 5: As we would start, as soon as the patient would.
Speaker 7: Start feeling anxiety, the doctors would want to give them
Speaker 7: anxiety medication.
Speaker 5: And nine times out of ten, the patient would start
Speaker 5: to what we call crump.
Speaker 7: They would start to go downhill and then they would
Speaker 7: be then they would be vented, and then they would die,
Speaker 7: and then we would be putting them in a body bag.
Speaker 7: So it was it was I would try to get
Speaker 7: the patients to just relax through it and not not
Speaker 7: get anxiety and not go down that road. Most that
Speaker 7: didn't get vented would walk out of the hospitt the
Speaker 7: ones that got into most of them died.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a very second time.
Speaker 1: They said once once you were innovated, once you were ventilated,
Speaker 1: that that that was the end.
Speaker 2: Of the line. Why why do you think that was
Speaker 2: the protocol.
Speaker 1: When when people were having trouble with respiratory conditions in
Speaker 1: the hospitals. What made that the standard of care?
Speaker 7: Well, there's something that I don't talk about it often
Speaker 7: because for some reason the world doesn't talk about this,
Speaker 7: but in my opinion, they should if you ever get
Speaker 7: time to look up the mystery of happy hypoxia during
Speaker 7: COVID nineteen. Something we were experiencing during COVID nineteen were
Speaker 7: people with really low oxygen saturations. The people who were
Speaker 7: literally satting forty to fifty percent, which is ungodly low.
Speaker 5: It's extreme, but the people were acting normal.
Speaker 7: We called it happy hypoxia because they acted happy, they
Speaker 7: acted fine, they acted normal, which is something that I've
Speaker 7: never seen before in my entire life, and I had
Speaker 7: I'm not seen it so many times myself.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't believe you because.
Speaker 7: Like me and you talking to each other right now,
Speaker 7: we're probably satting ninety five to one hundred percent. Someone
Speaker 7: who SATs in the low eighties, mid seventies, they're gonna
Speaker 7: have trouble talking, if not passing out.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: By that time in the seventies, these people were low fifties,
Speaker 7: sometimes forties, you know, sometimes sixties, and just looking normal,
Speaker 7: not turning blue, talking normal, no word dismia. But our
Speaker 7: protocols when we get into the hospital and those people
Speaker 7: were satting those SATs and acting anxious. Our protocols, our
Speaker 7: rigid protocols, would treat the machine rather than the patient,
Speaker 7: which is something an old medic like me, I know.
Speaker 7: Don't treat the machine. Treat your patient. You know my
Speaker 7: machine saying, oh my gosh, you're setting fifty percent. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna look at the patient, and if the patient's talking
Speaker 7: to me about their dogs, I'm not gonna throw a
Speaker 7: tube down their throat. But if you get into these
Speaker 7: hospitals where not only are they incentivized to put the
Speaker 7: tube down your throat, but look at the machines and
Speaker 7: their blood gases, and it's saying low SATs.
Speaker 5: They're going to follow their.
Speaker 7: Rigid protocols, and those rigid protocols murdered a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Talking to Harry Fisher, author Safe and Effective for Profit,
Speaker 1: a paramedic story exposing American genocide, you don't. You can't
Speaker 1: look inside the wretched hearts of the people that plan this.
Speaker 1: You can't. I can't either. We can't look into their
Speaker 1: minds or their hearts, Harry. But what do you think
Speaker 1: the real purpose of it all was? Was it just
Speaker 1: so so people like Fauci could profit from the royalties
Speaker 1: they were getting from Pfizer and Maderna and the others.
Speaker 1: Was it just for profit or where there was something
Speaker 1: deeper and darker at play here that they conducted this
Speaker 1: sy op on on American citizens and on the world.
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm a christ follower, so I believe there's
Speaker 7: a There is definitely an opposite of Christ.
Speaker 5: I believe there's.
Speaker 7: A an evil out there and some some I would
Speaker 7: say few truly know that they follow that evil. So so,
Speaker 7: say there's a pyramid, and at the top of that pyramid,
Speaker 7: there's a few really bad evil people that know all
Speaker 7: this bad.
Speaker 5: Stuff's happening, and they're pushing for it.
Speaker 7: I would say that people closer to the bottom of
Speaker 7: the pyramid in the middle are doing it for profit,
Speaker 7: which are in itself a bunch of you know, really
Speaker 7: evil people.
Speaker 5: But most of them.
Speaker 7: Are unknowingly following the big bad. And that's what most
Speaker 7: people are these days. They're unknowingly following the big bad.
Speaker 7: Just like an abortion, abortion being murder. Yes, we'll tell
Speaker 7: someone as a normal person, Hey, abortion's murder. They're gonna
Speaker 7: go No, it's a choice. Well, most people truly believe
Speaker 7: it's a choice.
Speaker 5: Not murder.
Speaker 7: They they'll go with that word because the world is
Speaker 7: what they're bought into.
Speaker 5: They're not bought into reality.
Speaker 7: And the people at the top the say, there's a
Speaker 7: handful of people at the top that are truly demonic,
Speaker 7: truly evil. They they know that it's that it's for
Speaker 7: the greater evil, not the greater good. The people at
Speaker 7: the bottom are convinced that they're they're following the greater good.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good explanation.
Speaker 1: And I tend to agree with you as a Christ
Speaker 1: follower myself. Do you think that the truth? I believe
Speaker 1: that the truth always comes out eventually. And do you
Speaker 1: hope that this book of yours and so many other
Speaker 1: people now coming forward because so many people were canceled
Speaker 1: by the pushers of m RNA gene therapy and profit.
Speaker 1: And I mean, is the truth gonna set us free soon?
Speaker 4: Harry, That's a good question.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's twenty twenty four and just weeks ago
Speaker 7: I was fired from my most recent contract for not
Speaker 7: wanting to give the COVID vaccines and my online presence
Speaker 7: speaking out against it. I've got another job that I'm starting,
Speaker 7: so I'm not I haven't taken my license, but they
Speaker 7: definitely can make it hard to work.
Speaker 5: And that's current now.
Speaker 7: If you're standing against these vaccines, I think there's going
Speaker 7: to be a divide. I think we can already see
Speaker 7: the divide. We've got a division in healthcare workers. We've
Speaker 7: got a division. Some hospitals demand it, some hospitals don't,
Speaker 7: depending on who's in the HR departments, who's working there.
Speaker 7: I think we'll have a great divide that's completely obvious.
Speaker 7: And in that divide, we'll start to split as a nation.
Speaker 7: And then they'll probably be conflict. Oh okay, I mean
Speaker 7: I don't want it to be, but I mean you
Speaker 7: can't be. You can't have one sye trying to kill
Speaker 7: the other for too long.
Speaker 1: Before, Harry, my biggest, my biggest concern really now is
Speaker 1: that the truth is leaking out here and there. They
Speaker 1: try to censor it. There's they're having less success and censoring. Although,
Speaker 1: like you said, you just lost a gig and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, but for for your online posts and for
Speaker 1: your stance on not giving the gene therapy that they
Speaker 1: are telling you to do. That we're all being told
Speaker 1: to do by Pfizer and their TV ads and they
Speaker 1: you know, and they certainly are making plenty of money
Speaker 1: to continue to push the poison as I like to say, yes,
Speaker 1: but uh, my concern is that some people will just
Speaker 1: go now, that's that's old news, that's old hat.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just give it up?
Speaker 1: Look, I'm fine, I got the JAB and everything's okay,
Speaker 1: everything's unky dory. I mean, why why are you still
Speaker 1: pushing this narrative, and why are you still pushing anti
Speaker 1: anti gene therapy messages and what? Why don't you just
Speaker 1: live your life and and go on, you know, let's
Speaker 1: move on. That's that's the biggest thing that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are doing when they hear discussions
Speaker 1: like ours.
Speaker 7: They definitely are until they lose a loved one. And
Speaker 7: like I have friends, I have friends who've lost their children.
Speaker 7: I have I have friends that are currently dying of
Speaker 7: Oregon failure.
Speaker 5: People. Most there aren't that.
Speaker 7: Many true what they like to call anti v Like me,
Speaker 7: most most people took this shot. I would say, what
Speaker 7: seventy percent of the popular world's population took this vaccine
Speaker 7: or this gene therapy. The people that are anti vaxxers
Speaker 7: now are vaccine injured. The vaccine injured is what makes
Speaker 7: up most of the anti vaxxing movement. At this point,
Speaker 7: when I started off speaking, I was a lone person
Speaker 7: out here with maybe you know a handful of others
Speaker 7: from the doctor McCullough to Mary Sally Bowden's that we
Speaker 7: were all sort of like getting kicked into a corner together.
Speaker 7: That's how I met all these people that are now
Speaker 7: my friends. Now the movement is huge because most of
Speaker 7: them are injured themselves. Why I won't stop speaking, It's
Speaker 7: because people are getting injured realizing it, and they're needing
Speaker 7: someone to help them, someone to talk to, someone to
Speaker 7: stand for them. There's there's people that are dead now
Speaker 7: that can't speak, so they need a voice, and that's
Speaker 7: what we do. That's what I do, is try to
Speaker 7: speak up for the people that can't speak well.
Speaker 1: I've been very vocal about I work for this large
Speaker 1: corporation and at one time when Biden was declaring that
Speaker 1: if you had a company with one hundred employees or more,
Speaker 1: they all had to get vaxed or lose their job.
Speaker 1: And the second debt came out, I said, well, I
Speaker 1: may or may not be with you in a couple
Speaker 1: of months, whenever this kicks in, and thank god the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court and Court stepped in and said, no, that's unconstitutional,
Speaker 1: you can't require that. But I think about all of
Speaker 1: the people in the military and all of the people
Speaker 1: government contractors who were forced to either stand up for
Speaker 1: what they believed or lose their gigs and lose their job,
Speaker 1: or just go along with the sheep. I never got
Speaker 1: one job, not once. Neither did my wife. We vowed
Speaker 1: we weren't going to do it, and to this day
Speaker 1: we are still mRNA free in my household. And I said,
Speaker 1: I've been very vocal that they haven't shut me up yet,
Speaker 1: so I don't know when that day is coming.
Speaker 7: Harriet, I'm glad, thank you for standing up for humanity.
Speaker 7: It's few and far between these days. And I'm truly
Speaker 7: appreciative of what you've done and what you continue to do,
Speaker 7: because it's it.
Speaker 5: It's at great risks you.
Speaker 7: If you're anything like the rest of us, which I'm
Speaker 7: sure you are. In the time, they tried to ostracize,
Speaker 7: you demonize it, you call you crazy, and standing against
Speaker 7: it has required a faith like I never thought I had.
Speaker 7: And that's that's faith in God. And if if not
Speaker 7: for that faith, I would have fallen into madness a
Speaker 7: long time ago, especially witnessing the death firsthand. Because when
Speaker 7: you're when you're running young strokes that you've never ran before,
Speaker 7: these young kids that are just falling out playing kickball,
Speaker 7: having a stroke, and their parents telling you they just
Speaker 7: had the vaccine, and watching the parents realize they've harmed
Speaker 7: their kids. This is this is a darkness that I've
Speaker 7: never wanted to witness firsthand. And it takes lights like
Speaker 7: you and and other people that are willing to stand
Speaker 7: and shine in your light into the darkness to make
Speaker 7: this go away. And I'm praying we can do that
Speaker 7: before there ever is conflict, because I said the worst
Speaker 7: case scenario earlier a division and conflict, and that's what
Speaker 7: happens over history. And unless we can somehow stand up
Speaker 7: and shine that light and come together as a nation,
Speaker 7: than we're destined to repeat ourselves.
Speaker 1: Harry Fisher, thank you so much for your time tonight,
Speaker 1: and God bless you for your work and getting the
Speaker 1: word out. Save and Effective for Profit a paramedic story
Speaker 1: exposing American genocide during what I have called since April
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, the scamdemic.
Speaker 2: Even with everything I know.
Speaker 1: I'm bolder than I ever have been and it's because
Speaker 1: of people like you on the front lines.
Speaker 2: Harry, thank you so much for your time this evening.
Speaker 5: Thank you brother.
Speaker 2: Have a good day all right, you too, God bless Wow.
Speaker 1: So the Expose a show, the Nightcap continues just ahead.
Speaker 1: How about jf How about JFK the assassination? Can we
Speaker 1: revisit that one more time? A guy who has done
Speaker 1: that as co author of the JFK Assassination choke Holds,
Speaker 1: will join us at the bottom of the hour afternoons.
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Speaker 1: Which there are several people contributing to this, and the
Speaker 1: questions abound. What happened November twenty second, nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 1: and in the aftermath of the assassination of the President
Speaker 1: of the United States.
Speaker 2: Who was involved? Why do we not know more?
Speaker 1: Why have we been fed this narrative of a loan shooter,
Speaker 1: confirmed by a commission and rubber stamped all along the way,
Speaker 1: And why are so many records of the JFK assassination
Speaker 1: still not available to the general public. All those questions
Speaker 1: and more we're going to answer in the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Probably not, but we're gonna give as good a try
Speaker 1: as we can. Mark Damasac is our guest. He is
Speaker 1: one of those co authors. Again the JFK assassination choke holds.
Speaker 1: Good evening, Mark, how are you.
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 12: Good evening, Happy to be here, Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, how did you get involved in this? You've
Speaker 1: been researching the Kennedy assassination for like a quarter century,
Speaker 1: haven't you.
Speaker 5: I have been.
Speaker 12: I went to school in New Orleans in the late
Speaker 12: nineties and started getting into the aspects of the case there,
Speaker 12: which were of course a big deal in Oliver Stone's
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety one movie JFK that focused on the investigation
Speaker 12: in New Orleans. And then you know that piqued my
Speaker 12: interest for sure, as did millions of other Americans. In fact,
Speaker 12: we can get back to the public reaction from that movie,
Speaker 12: which led to the creation of the collectored the collect
Speaker 12: Records Collection Act in nineteen ninety two. That started the
Speaker 12: record's review board, and that that's very extremely important to
Speaker 12: what we know today about the case. So from then,
Speaker 12: I really tried since then to develop a balanced view
Speaker 12: of it. And I've read books on all kinds of
Speaker 12: theories and positions, so I can I can say that
Speaker 12: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. And how that ties into
Speaker 12: our book is we we set out to establish, you know,
Speaker 12: beyond much of any doubts, that there was a conspiracy
Speaker 12: in the case, based on fact and record and not
Speaker 12: just on theories. So that's that's how that's where we
Speaker 12: are today with this project.
Speaker 1: Well, you reference the Oliver Stone movie, and that's probably
Speaker 1: the most famous and the one that most people know
Speaker 1: about on this particular event in American history. What, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, with the research and the facts that you
Speaker 1: guys have uncovered, what did Oliver Stone get right and
Speaker 1: what did he get wrong in the movie.
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he certainly took a lot of heat for his
Speaker 12: dramatic license in the movie, and at the time before
Speaker 12: the review board was created, after the fact, Oliver was
Speaker 12: going off of what was known at the time. Following
Speaker 12: the well, of course the Warren Report, which is heavily
Speaker 12: dissected in our book and is shown as now to
Speaker 12: be fiction.
Speaker 5: But the HSCA, the House.
Speaker 12: Select Committee in the late seventies reopened the case after
Speaker 12: the Zubruterer film was shown on national TV for the
Speaker 12: first time in nineteen seventy five, and they did a
Speaker 12: more of a deep dive into Oswald and who he
Speaker 12: really was and is, the Mexico City trip and the
Speaker 12: CIA mafia operations involving the elimination of Castro and so
Speaker 12: and then, and of course the movie puts a heavy
Speaker 12: focus on the president's foreign policy, namely the decision to
Speaker 12: start de escalating in Vietnam, which of course was reversed
Speaker 12: after the assassination.
Speaker 5: So a lot of those things were themes.
Speaker 12: But I can tell you, you know, his main character
Speaker 12: in the movie, Jim Garrison, the district attorney in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: His investigation in the case that the movie.
Speaker 12: Now is has come out to be correct on on
Speaker 12: Jim Garrison in terms of he was right about a
Speaker 12: lot of things and what he was onto in New
Speaker 12: Orleans with with Oswald and his activities there, both with
Speaker 12: pro and anti castro activists, I believe played a heavy
Speaker 12: part in what happened in Dallas.
Speaker 1: What was every presidential administration when they are asked on
Speaker 1: the campaign trail, most of the candidates and then ultimate
Speaker 1: office holders will say, I'm definitely going to look into that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like UFOs and UAPs. I'm definitely going
Speaker 1: to look into that. Donald Trump has echoed those sentiments
Speaker 1: and made similar promises of getting the truth about the
Speaker 1: Kennedy assassination, about a whole lot of things about January sixth,
Speaker 1: about COVID and the response, and everything else that this
Speaker 1: country has gone through, particularly in the last four years,
Speaker 1: but over the course of sixty years, in the case
Speaker 1: of the Kennedy assassination, sixty plus years. Now, do you
Speaker 1: hold out hope that you know Bobby Kennedy, who was
Speaker 1: you know that that was his uncle? Will we'll find
Speaker 1: a way inside the Trump administration to I mean, we
Speaker 1: finally have a Kennedy in the White House with the
Speaker 1: president's ear. Is this going to make a difference as
Speaker 1: far as getting getting the truth?
Speaker 4: I think it's going.
Speaker 12: To make a difference in getting the remaining records released.
Speaker 12: As of now, there's a little over thirty six hundred
Speaker 12: records that are still classified and under lock and seal
Speaker 12: if you will, by the CIA and the agencies in
Speaker 12: violation of the JFK Records Act of nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 12: So what will Trump do with the assistance of RFK Junior.
Speaker 12: We don't know for sure, but what they can do
Speaker 12: is start with that law and make sure that it's
Speaker 12: carried out for good because it's been too long. The
Speaker 12: job was supposed to be done, completely done by twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: It was actually a lot of the.
Speaker 12: Work was done before that, almost all of it, but
Speaker 12: we can get that's a whole different history that will
Speaker 12: take a lot of time to explain. But that law
Speaker 12: required Trump at the time, who was president, to certify
Speaker 12: the release and the remaining records.
Speaker 5: I believe he wanted to do it.
Speaker 12: He said he was going to do it, and then
Speaker 12: under pressure from Mike Pompeo and the agencies, was told
Speaker 12: that it was better to wait for another day. So
Speaker 12: what Trump did was simply delay any significant action on
Speaker 12: that another three and a half years into the Biden administration.
Speaker 12: What Biden did was the same, but he actually made
Speaker 12: it worse. Trump just did a delay without much reasoning
Speaker 12: of events.
Speaker 5: You know, we're going to it's national security, et cetera.
Speaker 12: But Biden essentially rewrote that law without authority, telling the
Speaker 12: agencies to go ahead and you know, continue running the show,
Speaker 12: which is in direct conflict with what Congress said in
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety two and passing that historical law. So it's
Speaker 12: gone nowhere, especially in the last administration. But now Trump
Speaker 12: has a chance again. And I do think that you know,
Speaker 12: whether be the remaining records will show exactly what happened
Speaker 12: in Dallas to a t, probably not. There may not
Speaker 12: be such a record that ever existed on paper, right,
Speaker 12: but I think it's starting with that and getting the
Speaker 12: transparency on those records will help researchers and your listeners
Speaker 12: put piece together you know what most likely happened.
Speaker 5: And that's a great start.
Speaker 12: And I do think that the built the Trump and
Speaker 12: Robert Kennedy partnership there will the atmosphere is better than
Speaker 12: ever to get that part of it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ascertaining what happened on that day in Dallas and
Speaker 1: Dealey Plaza a lot of that, And I know you
Speaker 1: guys go into this in the book The JFK Assassination
Speaker 1: Choke Holds the exact chain of custody of the president's
Speaker 1: body and the autopsies and.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 1: Can you go into a little bit of that that
Speaker 1: you guys cover in the JFK Assassination Choke Holds the
Speaker 1: disparities between what usually happens in an autopsy and with
Speaker 1: the president's body and how this was handled differently.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it certainly was handled differently, to say the least.
Speaker 10: There's a really good.
Speaker 12: Chapter on that in Choke Holds by Jim Dudenio called
Speaker 12: the Evidentiary Mess of the twentieth Century.
Speaker 5: And boy was it so.
Speaker 12: That the autopsy of President Kennedy was supposed to be
Speaker 12: done by law in Dallas that weekend under under Texas
Speaker 12: law at the time, and as we as shown in
Speaker 12: the movie we talked about, and of course in the
Speaker 12: records that are known now, that the body was quickly
Speaker 12: moved to Washington for the official autopsy. The doctors selected
Speaker 12: for the most important autopsy of all time that very
Speaker 12: little experience in these types of autopsies and gun fired
Speaker 12: ballistics and so that was obviously a poor start. Plus
Speaker 12: there's now very clear evidence that the autopsy was heavily
Speaker 12: under the control of the military and so not your
Speaker 12: normal autopsy to say the least. And that just led to,
Speaker 12: like you said, the evidentiary messing in the president's brain
Speaker 12: eventually years later seemingly disappeared, and it didn't weigh what
Speaker 12: it should have weighed. Weighing, if you will, if so many,
Speaker 12: so much so many portions of the brain had been
Speaker 12: I don't like to use boards blasted out, but if
Speaker 12: they were lost in the in the horrific shooting, it
Speaker 12: just you know, just doesn't add up to basic you know, math,
Speaker 12: and just an example of how there's just no credibility
Speaker 12: left to what you know. The Warrant Commission report, it
Speaker 12: was put together in haste immediately after the assassination to
Speaker 12: quiet any speculation on any foreign conspiracy. And but I
Speaker 12: think what I think that we're learning more and more
Speaker 12: now is the bigger purpose of the Warrant Report was
Speaker 12: to look the folks look the other way from the
Speaker 12: domestic side of it. You know, what unfolded here in
Speaker 12: New Orleans and Mexico City ended up in Dallas and
Speaker 12: because Oswald was no loan nut communists assassin. There's another
Speaker 12: chapter or two of that in the book.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 12: He was an intelligence asset, a low level intelligence asset
Speaker 12: that had all kinds of assignments and activities linked to
Speaker 12: the FBI and CIA that go back to when he
Speaker 12: falsely or quote unquote deffected to the Soviet Union, comes back,
Speaker 12: and then then he starts his human related assignments in
Speaker 12: New Orleans. And so once, you know, once he was
Speaker 12: immediately identified as the suspect on the afternoon of November
Speaker 12: twenty second, as a pro communist loan gunman, you know
Speaker 12: nuts who did this all on his own, sent a
Speaker 12: shock waves through the Pentagon and the White House and
Speaker 12: the FBI because they knew a full investigation into Oswald
Speaker 12: would be right back to us, right, So that's why
Speaker 12: they so quickly went.
Speaker 5: With the lone gunmen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then they took care of the
Speaker 1: patsy before he could ever testify or anything else.
Speaker 12: And you know what's funny about you mentioning that is
Speaker 12: those were Oswald's words, right, not anybody else. And he
Speaker 12: was being walked through the hallways and the police department.
Speaker 12: He never said he didn't do anything right. He never
Speaker 12: said he didn't have knowledge of it or wasn't involved
Speaker 12: in some level. He just said, I'm a patsy, So
Speaker 12: he knew he was taking the blame for something that
Speaker 12: he probably had no full knowledge of whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Very very interesting.
Speaker 1: So many fingers have been pointed at the CIA, and
Speaker 1: I think with good reason. I think there's good reason
Speaker 1: to be suspectful of the CIA as involvement in the
Speaker 1: assassination of John Kennedy. I think there's plenty of reasons
Speaker 1: to look at the organized crime element and some involvement
Speaker 1: with Giancano and and the Chicago crime family, Cuba and Castro.
Speaker 1: So many players could have been involved. And is there
Speaker 1: a possibility that all of that is true? It was
Speaker 1: the mob, it was the CIA, it was Cuba.
Speaker 12: It is a possibility, for sure, But I can tell
Speaker 12: you there's almost no chance that it was Cuba and
Speaker 12: Castro as the originators of the plane because if that
Speaker 12: was the case, and let's just say the conspirators wanted
Speaker 12: that to be the result, that there was enough evidence
Speaker 12: pointing at Castro as the perpetrator, don't you think LBJ
Speaker 12: and the Joint Chiefs would have had bombers over at
Speaker 12: Cuba that day. Right, it's the perfect pretext to to
Speaker 12: take the action that the military hawks so badly wanted,
Speaker 12: that the CIA and mafia so badly wanted in the
Speaker 12: late fifties leading right up to Dallas. So the reason
Speaker 12: that's why I don't think it was, you know, plausible
Speaker 12: that it was Castro or the Soviets, because our actions
Speaker 12: dictate otherwise the immediate cover up and going with a
Speaker 12: loan nuts.
Speaker 2: Unless LBJ had four knowledge of this and was involved, well, there's.
Speaker 12: Been books written on that, and that's certainly a theory.
Speaker 12: I think there's he had a lot to gain from
Speaker 12: that event, obviously, and not only become president, but he
Speaker 12: had he had his own legal problems as well. That
Speaker 12: that went away with various scandals that went away that day.
Speaker 12: But to think that he had him and his buddies
Speaker 12: from Texas and that was obviously obviously suspicious where the
Speaker 12: crime occurred, But to think that they had the ability
Speaker 12: to orchestrate that and cover it up and pull it
Speaker 12: off without any any consequence, It's just he definitely was
Speaker 12: instrumental that weekend immediately after the assassination, along with his
Speaker 12: very good friend JAA gar Hoover and starting to cover up.
Speaker 12: So his complicity in that is without question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Mark A.
Speaker 1: Damasik, I really appreciate your time tonight. The book is
Speaker 1: the jfk Assassination Chokeholds. Mark is a co author with
Speaker 1: several other very learned gentlemen. And this is something that
Speaker 1: continues all these years later. It continues to fascinate the
Speaker 1: American public. And it's because of all the secrecy that
Speaker 1: you know, this thing's been shrouded in all this time.
Speaker 8: Because yeah, it's not yeah exactly.
Speaker 12: Not only does the case itself fascinating, it's the greatest
Speaker 12: unsolved murder ever, but it's the it's the way that
Speaker 12: the secrecy is still maintained in twenty two four, more
Speaker 12: than sixty years later, so you get closer and closer
Speaker 12: to saying something's not right here. There's got to be
Speaker 12: more to the official story, even if it's just the
Speaker 12: CIA finally admitting who Oswald really was, and that would
Speaker 12: that would launch a whole new look into the case.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, whole new kettle of fish. Mark, Thanks so
Speaker 1: much again, and we'll talk soon, I hope. All right,
Speaker 1: Marca Damsick, co author of the JFK Assassination, Shoke holds
Speaker 1: still out now recommended reading if you care about this
Speaker 1: fascinating story, and as an American you probably should.
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