Speaker 1: Spider Man with a big bounce at the box office.
Speaker 1: Oh what he weaves is unbelievable. And it's only the
Speaker 1: first weekend. Meanwhile, we got Major League Baseball and trades.
Speaker 1: What are some of the big ones. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about it in the man Cave. I'm Kate Delany. But
Speaker 1: right at the top we swing into the rundown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so here we go on at n the story that
Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about because it's so sad,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those Oh man, you gotta be kidding,
Speaker 1: because I take my family and we go and get
Speaker 1: a burger over the weekend or tacos or whatever. We
Speaker 1: go too fast food, and the kids want this and
Speaker 1: they want that. Well. In and Out was highly anticipated
Speaker 1: in Twin Falls, Idaho, and it only open a week
Speaker 1: before it turned into another ugly, ugly, ugly scene of
Speaker 1: unfortunately gun violence.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, it was a shooting that happened on Saturday at
Speaker 1: two point thirty in the afternoon, and among the victims
Speaker 1: killed was an In and Out employee. Company owner and
Speaker 1: president Lindsey Snyder announced that in a statement and said,
Speaker 1: you know, just she was so sad and her heart
Speaker 1: was broken for anybody involved in that whatsoever. The nine
Speaker 1: to one one dispatchers could hear screaming in the background
Speaker 1: as they were fielding calls from people reporting gunshots just
Speaker 1: before that two thirty time, I said on Saturday, and
Speaker 1: the area was a commercial area that's super busy, lots
Speaker 1: and lots of tourists, lots of locals. And you see
Speaker 1: the video of it. You see video that was captured
Speaker 1: from cars and other SUVs and whatnot that were driving by,
Speaker 1: and you see you see that there is a suspect.
Speaker 1: There's someone shooting a gun outside the restaurant, and then
Speaker 1: there's somebody going after him. And the good news there
Speaker 1: is that was a person who now they're calling a
Speaker 1: hero because he saved a lot of people by being
Speaker 1: able to pull his gun out and pursue him. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: the shooter took his own life. But boy, oh boy,
Speaker 1: did that end up with people fleeing in all kinds
Speaker 1: of directions. There's a lot of question marks as to
Speaker 1: what was the deal with twenty four year old Chad Williams,
Speaker 1: who died of this self inflicted gunshot wound. But there's
Speaker 1: three people that were killed, seven others were injured in
Speaker 1: that melee that he caused. And here's how one person
Speaker 1: described what he saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he definitely distracted the shooter from
Speaker 3: shooting more people. The shooter was solely focused on him
Speaker 3: and allowed us to get out.
Speaker 4: I mean the car director ahead of me was getting shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the scene at this brand new in and out
Speaker 1: in Twin Falls, you know, was like any other where
Speaker 1: you would see, Oh there's new you know, there's balloons,
Speaker 1: there's new things, and it's customers then end up screaming
Speaker 1: and diving from their seats and barricading themselves into the restaurant.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get it. You know, I'm giving you
Speaker 1: the description here. You understand what I'm saying. But just
Speaker 1: a terrible thing that happened, for sure. Meanwhile, you had
Speaker 1: other people that were fleeing fires in lots of different
Speaker 1: parts of the country, but Washington State is being talked
Speaker 1: about a lot now because it is a definite state
Speaker 1: of emergency where you have hundreds of structures that have
Speaker 1: just been destroyed flatten, and you have at least sixty
Speaker 1: thousand people evacuated. You have three major wildfires in Spokane.
Speaker 1: No injuries or deaths have been confirmed, so that's good.
Speaker 1: They haven't fully assessed everything. Not even five percent contain
Speaker 1: more than seven thousand acres now totally burned. Communities are
Speaker 1: just devastated, right they You got some people that have
Speaker 1: been able to return to burned out areas and they're
Speaker 1: you know, people are anxious because they want to go
Speaker 1: back into their neighborhoods to see what's left and hoping
Speaker 1: upon hope that there is something there. Fifteen major fires
Speaker 1: have burned more than two hundred and fifty thousand acres
Speaker 1: across Washington. The Pacific Northwest is facing its worst fire
Speaker 1: season in more than thirty years. Thirty years. You got
Speaker 1: firefighters from all overcoming to help so far, like four
Speaker 1: thousand firefighters. Wow, wow, all right, fire of a different sort,
Speaker 1: the war with Iran. Will that be put out anytime soon?
Speaker 1: The President called off what he said was going to
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest strikes of this whole effort
Speaker 1: because he was going to move in a diplomatic a
Speaker 1: diplomatic state instead after talking to the Crown Prince Ben Solomon,
Speaker 1: who pushed for de escalation. No strikes were reported from
Speaker 1: either group Iran or from the US overnight, and you know,
Speaker 1: into Sunday and Sunday into to Monday. So you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen the economic collapse of the initial US Iran ceasefire,
Speaker 1: and now what are we going to see with these
Speaker 1: negotiations that are resuming. The Iran state media gave no
Speaker 1: indication that Tehran asked for the attack to be called
Speaker 1: off or has changed its stands on the waterway, which
Speaker 1: of course is the Strait of Hormus. It was part
Speaker 1: of the Sunday SWIRLD. That's what I call the talking
Speaker 1: heads that are on cable and on networks to talk
Speaker 1: about apolos of the day, usually people on the hill.
Speaker 1: Here's Republican Congressman from Ohio, Mike Turner on Iran.
Speaker 6: Iran is in a position where they're going to have
Speaker 6: to come to a table, whether it's economics, where it's
Speaker 6: energy production, whether it's the loss of critical infrastructure, military infrastructure,
Speaker 6: the loss of their military capabilities. All metrics would show
Speaker 6: a declining capability to continue. They're going to have to
Speaker 6: be in a position where ultimately they're going to have
Speaker 6: to concede to the opening of the straits and returning
Speaker 6: to commerce.
Speaker 1: All right, So in the meantime, echoing kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing, but saying, you know, don't lift any sanctions.
Speaker 1: Louisiana Republican Senator John Kerry says this needs to happen
Speaker 1: with Iran.
Speaker 7: I'm always willing to give piece a chance. Respectfully, I
Speaker 7: would remind President Trump of three things. Number One, the
Speaker 7: only reason they're ron is coming to the table, if
Speaker 7: indeed they are, is because Israel and the United States
Speaker 7: of America have have torn them a new ashtray. Number Two,
Speaker 7: no deal is just fine, not preferred, but not preferable,
Speaker 7: but it's fine. A bad deal isn't. Number Three, he
Speaker 7: has to remember that the Iranian government learned to lie
Speaker 7: before they learn to talk, and they're more than mildly insane.
Speaker 7: Dealing with them is like dealing with Son of Sam
Speaker 7: or Charles Manson. Whatever he does, do not release the
Speaker 7: sanctions stopping their sale of oil or remove the blockade
Speaker 7: until we see Ron take firm actions to open the strike.
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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, we are in the man Cave. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of conversation last minute Major league you know,
Speaker 1: Baseball trades that are happening. You got all this trading
Speaker 1: deadline that's in the face of everybody. So some of
Speaker 1: the big moves that happened, and some of the big winners.
Speaker 1: Of course the Dodgers, I mean, yeah, they won the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six trade deadline. I think most people would
Speaker 1: say that a blockbuster trade with the Tigers for ace
Speaker 1: left hander in two time defending American League Cy Young
Speaker 1: winner Trek Scuball. You know, that's he, no doubt is
Speaker 1: the top talent that moved leading up to the August
Speaker 1: their deadline. I mean, talk about a talented roster that
Speaker 1: they haven't in the Dodgers, and now there he is.
Speaker 1: And and of course the Tigers with a disappointing season,
Speaker 1: but they still could maybe make the postseason. Anyway, it
Speaker 1: was a four player trade. And now you think about
Speaker 1: that and just again, how much this pitching way in
Speaker 1: And of course the the answer is heavily, heavily right.
Speaker 1: And and people are cynical about the Dodgers and or
Speaker 1: they love the Dodgers because it could be a three
Speaker 1: peat for them. Oh and then there were some other
Speaker 1: moves that that happened too. The Rays were hoping they
Speaker 1: were gonna get scooball and they didn't, and so they
Speaker 1: missed out because they that's what the Rays needed too,
Speaker 1: as did so many other teams. But they did acquire
Speaker 1: right Freddie Peralta in a trade with the Mets. He's
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent after the season, and
Speaker 1: he was a candidate to be to be moved for sure.
Speaker 1: He did have a rough go of it with the
Speaker 1: Mets after he came over from the Brewers in an
Speaker 1: off season trade. So what kind of what kind of
Speaker 1: punch can he add?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: That being said, as he's had some rougher years. He
Speaker 1: finished fifth in the nl CY Young Voting in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, and he's pretty healthy of multiple starts and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: he it could be a good fit for him. It's
Speaker 1: the race had to make a move. They needed to
Speaker 1: make some sort of move, so they they did do that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's a bad move. If he
Speaker 1: gets one or two pitches, especially his breaking ball right,
Speaker 1: the command over that, then he'll he'll end up helping
Speaker 1: helping the Rais with what they with what they need.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a couple of moves. There were
Speaker 1: all kinds of other things that happened too, because we
Speaker 1: still have the trading deadline, right, so the third is
Speaker 1: the deadline Monday, August third, So there still is some
Speaker 1: last minute things that could happen six pm. And we'll
Speaker 1: have all of that for you because there are still
Speaker 1: teams that could make a move, and there's still and
Speaker 1: there's teams that definitely did make a move. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get you some Major League Baseball action. How about
Speaker 1: some scores, Like for the people listening exactly in Saint
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, I have good news for you KLIS listeners.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals pull off a nice big one. It's on
Speaker 1: the road, though, but who cares. You're watching at home, right,
Speaker 1: And here's how they helped to bury toront So even more.
Speaker 5: And the basin is going to give the Cardinals two
Speaker 5: more runs, so instead of being two to one going
Speaker 5: to the bottom of the night, it is now five
Speaker 5: to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and five to one would be the final score,
Speaker 1: so they avoid the sweep. So that's nice. That's a
Speaker 1: that's big. Saint Louis won for the fifth time in
Speaker 1: seventeen games since the All Star breaks. You needed that news,
Speaker 1: so that's so that's good, especially because the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: closer is so tough to get anything from. That's so
Speaker 1: that's again the good news there. And then you just
Speaker 1: move on from that because the Cardinals now move on
Speaker 1: to the Yankees. And speaking of the Yankees, the Yankees
Speaker 1: and the this was a very tight game. But take
Speaker 1: a listen, drill.
Speaker 13: Left center beata that one fact and that one is God.
Speaker 5: Caby arrow on loads.
Speaker 13: And that was it.
Speaker 1: Cabrierra with the two run jack, because the Yankees beat
Speaker 1: the Cubs to one, right, so with a trio of
Speaker 1: relievers they got three and a third scoreless innings that
Speaker 1: they needed, meaning the meaning the Yankees did, and the
Speaker 1: Yankees beat the Cubs. So now they move on, of course.
Speaker 1: But Cabylero, he added a single, he ended an eighteen
Speaker 1: game drought without going deep. And the one that you
Speaker 1: just heard, four hundred and eight foot drive against the
Speaker 1: win to left center in the third, which gave them
Speaker 1: that two jolt. All right, Other baseball scores that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna mention here. I know we also have Brewers fans
Speaker 1: that are listening to this show. Sorry to tell you.
Speaker 1: They were shut out the Angels three zip in Anaheim. Hey,
Speaker 1: the pitching was just too much, you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: run up against it. And Urina pitched three hit ball
Speaker 1: over six innings, and Wade Meckler made the big difference
Speaker 1: with a two run homer, and the Angels just had
Speaker 1: the Brewers number. And so now the the Brewers will
Speaker 1: face the Pirates Monday in Milwaukee. And of course the
Speaker 1: Brewers are not out of this thing. The Brewers are
Speaker 1: in the thick of it. Sixty nine and forty two
Speaker 1: on the season, they've had some really good series. Tigers
Speaker 1: shut down the A's eleven nothing, the Red Sox and
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Speaking of the Dodgers, eight four was the
Speaker 1: final there, the Red Sox winning it in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: And what happened there is Rafaelo homeward for the third
Speaker 1: straight game, and the Red Sox were the better for that,
Speaker 1: right and and so the Red Sox added a bunch
Speaker 1: of runs in the eighth inning on a wild pitch
Speaker 1: and a past ball. So it's like the Dodgers were
Speaker 1: just giving it to them, and the Red Sox now
Speaker 1: open a three game series at home against the Chicago
Speaker 1: White Sox. The Dodgers have the Cubs on Monday night.
Speaker 1: Gots rifle through some more scores. This is a to me,
Speaker 1: I know I've said this before dog days. Uh to me,
Speaker 1: it's not the dog Days to this is you got
Speaker 1: to pick these updates. And then you got a fisher
Speaker 1: cut bait because of the trading deadline. We know, the
Speaker 1: padresknock off the Giants five to four. The Rockies and
Speaker 1: the Royals in this one at course Field. The Rockies
Speaker 1: took full advantage of home field. They haven't had much
Speaker 1: to cheer about. Neither of the Royals really. Eight one
Speaker 1: was your final in the books. The Reds ten, the
Speaker 1: Pirates two. Astros knockoff the Rangers seven three. The Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: smothered by the Guardians, couldn't get anything on the board.
Speaker 1: So Cleveland wins that one, five zip. And again you know,
Speaker 1: Gavin Williams allowed one hit in five and two third innings,
Speaker 1: struck out ten. And when you get that kind of
Speaker 1: pitching and you're just you're caught looking and all kinds
Speaker 1: of things a Chase de latter drove in three and
Speaker 1: so had a hot game, and that was all she wrote.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get anything happening, So the Guardians continued their home
Speaker 1: stand against the Mets. Diamondbacks return to face return home
Speaker 1: to face San Diego in a four game series that
Speaker 1: starts on Monday. So get ready for that if you're
Speaker 1: in Arizona right good, it's a warm time to see
Speaker 1: a ball game. But hydrate, hydrate beforehand. Phillies shut out
Speaker 1: the Orioles for their fifty ninth win out at Camping
Speaker 1: Yards eight nothing, and the Braves bettered the Nationals, picking
Speaker 1: up number sixty seven on the year with a four
Speaker 1: to two win. So you're up to date. You're up
Speaker 1: to date with the scores heading into a Monday. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it's all about training camp really when we talk about
Speaker 1: football and you look at the injuries, and I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: the injuries are what's so frightening for some of the
Speaker 1: rookie players that sometimes can find themselves in that situation
Speaker 1: and or just carrying over an injury like Ricky Pearsol's injury.
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers one of the star receivers. He's
Speaker 1: got to go. He's gotta get season ending surgery on
Speaker 1: the PCL right, and that's.
Speaker 7: That they know.
Speaker 1: They looked at it and there's just nothing else you
Speaker 1: could do. He has to have it. It's been bugging
Speaker 1: him since the twenty twenty five seasons. He's gonna miss
Speaker 1: six to twelve months. He got that injury and a
Speaker 1: loss to the Jags in week four of the twenty
Speaker 1: five season. He missed like all our parts of ten
Speaker 1: games last year. He's got to be disappointed, all right,
Speaker 1: hang with us, meet you on the flip.
Speaker 13: On the show. Off the corner, she asked, still.
Speaker 1: This time on author's corner. This book to me is
Speaker 1: revolutionary in a sense and so important. And the name
Speaker 1: of the book is called Behind This Smile Healing from Abuse,
Speaker 1: Trauma and Betrayal, and it's written by John Sternfells, who
Speaker 1: is you know, a guy who's a therapist who's worked
Speaker 1: with so many people in his career, and having these
Speaker 1: off air conversation with him, I realize just what he
Speaker 1: did with and for this this woman, and this is
Speaker 1: Melissa Roberts. Will call her and she tells just the
Speaker 1: unvarnished truth of her story, the things that happened to her.
Speaker 1: So John, we're thrilled to have you here on author's
Speaker 1: Corner with me Kate Delaney on America Tonight. Thanks for
Speaker 1: sharing this story.
Speaker 15: Yeah, no, I appreciate Kate that you invited me.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about, you know, Melissa when she first came
Speaker 1: to you, and the things that she had gone through,
Speaker 1: starting from her family life, which she starts with obviously
Speaker 1: in the beginning, with the alcoholic father and all kinds
Speaker 1: of craziness that happened in that dysfunctional household.
Speaker 15: Sure, so you know, when somebody comes in, they're nervous
Speaker 15: and they don't know if they should go into the
Speaker 15: whole story or not. And so over time, when the
Speaker 15: client is able to feel comfortable and safe, they start
Speaker 15: to unpeel all the history that they've been going through.
Speaker 15: And it just blew me away as she was explaining
Speaker 15: more and more of her childhood life, how traumatic and
Speaker 15: how abusive, neglected, and it's just unbelievable. And so what
Speaker 15: brought her in initially was because there was disturbance in
Speaker 15: her marriage and it turned out to be a sexual
Speaker 15: addiction that the husband had. But then we started peeling back,
Speaker 15: going to her childhood trauma and oh my gosh, it
Speaker 15: is crazy, and so I thought might be good is
Speaker 15: to kind of for the listeners to get a little
Speaker 15: handle on the background of childhood abuse neglect. There are
Speaker 15: approximately three million cases of child abuse and neglect in
Speaker 15: our country, and that's just what's being reported. Estimates show
Speaker 15: that there's two more for everyone being reported that's not
Speaker 15: being reported. That's about a sixty seven percent increase. And
Speaker 15: out of the ones that are being reported, seventy four
Speaker 15: percent are victims of neglect. These are children, seventeen percent
Speaker 15: are physically abused, eleven percent are sexually abused, and seven
Speaker 15: percent are psychologically mistreated. An astounding seventy percent of the
Speaker 15: abusers are parents. What was really interesting one of the
Speaker 15: editors that I hired independently, she read the book and
Speaker 15: she called me up and she is crying. She goes,
Speaker 15: I got to meet Melissa. I can so relate to this.
Speaker 15: In course, my heart's sunk, because, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 15: is just someone you know out there doing the editing,
Speaker 15: and it touched her life right exactly.
Speaker 1: And when it took six years, you worked with her
Speaker 1: for six years. When you would unpack all of this,
Speaker 1: did you say to yourself, I wonder if she's going
Speaker 1: to come back next week.
Speaker 15: That is a valid point and a concern is because
Speaker 15: you've got to be careful of how you navigate all
Speaker 15: this trauma that someone's been experiencing, because it could be
Speaker 15: way too much to handle. So you just have to
Speaker 15: learn that the needle and thread, where you can go
Speaker 15: and where you can't go. It all depends on where
Speaker 15: the client's allowing you to go. So it's really about
Speaker 15: at their pace. And yet as working with trauma is
Speaker 15: helping them to overcome the resistance or the fear of
Speaker 15: addressing the issues because it's much safer just to ignore
Speaker 15: it and try to move on with life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in telling the stories, talking about the needle
Speaker 1: and thread and what you were doing there and the
Speaker 1: editor story is really interesting because look at how that
Speaker 1: affected somebody in a way that who would have thought that?
Speaker 1: And is this why you wanted it out there because
Speaker 1: you knew that her story was not at least parts
Speaker 1: of it certainly were not unique.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's good to ask. And so in working with Melissa,
Speaker 15: it became very apparent that this story needs to get
Speaker 15: out there to the public. A lot of people are
Speaker 15: living in shame, embarrassment, or just simply hopelessness. And so
Speaker 15: the book was really written out of a desire to
Speaker 15: bring awareness and understanding, healing and hope to the population.
Speaker 15: There's a lot of pain and abuse in the trauma.
Speaker 15: And so again sitting across from whether it be women
Speaker 15: or men, different walks of life, everyone's been affected by
Speaker 15: some sort or type of trauma and they hide in
Speaker 15: the anguish Behind the smile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the perfect name for the book, Behind
Speaker 1: the Smile, because people don't know what when you're encountering people,
Speaker 1: what their past is, right, and so to even get
Speaker 1: to your door, it takes a serious, big step in
Speaker 1: people's lives, and certainly in this woman's life.
Speaker 15: Yeah. What I found, and this is just a broad
Speaker 15: brush approach to it, is that there are pain points,
Speaker 15: and sometimes people's pain points become so severe their last
Speaker 15: resort is to come in to get help versus their
Speaker 15: first resort. I'm in pain, I don't want to live
Speaker 15: with this, I want to heal, and so you know,
Speaker 15: welcoming those that come in right away, but we also
Speaker 15: know there's a great population that are just living in
Speaker 15: that anguish, and that's a resolve of that's what life
Speaker 15: is to be for them, but that's not true, doesn't
Speaker 15: have to be.
Speaker 1: Wow, tell us more about the book Behind the Smile.
Speaker 15: Behind the Smile is really a live account of Melissa's
Speaker 15: childhood from the very beginning, chronologically going through the different
Speaker 15: ages and development stages of her life, and it really
Speaker 15: is a raw view of things that she experienced to abuse, neglect,
Speaker 15: and trauma, And so for the reader's Melissa's opening up
Speaker 15: her life very transparently, nothing held back, and you're seeing
Speaker 15: a journey from a little girl that was a bed
Speaker 15: wedding as a result of trauma and no one paying attention,
Speaker 15: growing up being abused, get into her adult life relationships
Speaker 15: even with a pastor being abused, and then her healing
Speaker 15: journey of breaking free of all that and having a freedom.
Speaker 15: No but he would ever expect that would happen, and
Speaker 15: she's remarried today. Personally, we are friends and we hang together,
Speaker 15: do life together, we do Bible study together. And it's
Speaker 15: just remarkable because if you just met her for the
Speaker 15: first time, she would just be normal with a smile, right,
Speaker 15: But knowing the background of her and seeing who she
Speaker 15: is today is remarkable. Who would have thunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who would have thunk? For you as a therapist,
Speaker 1: it has to be so rewarding that first of all,
Speaker 1: you could put this together, you were able to work
Speaker 1: together through that, and then you've got it out there
Speaker 1: in the world. But it has to be also rewarding
Speaker 1: when you know you got another one through with that
Speaker 1: needle and thread.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know the paycheck. The paycheck is really seeing
Speaker 15: a person's life change and you go to bed, you
Speaker 15: wake up and someone's life has changed.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Does this give you hope that maybe, and
Speaker 1: this is what I think putting it out there, people
Speaker 1: who are afraid maybe to get help will take that
Speaker 1: step and get some help.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very inspirational and also it's effective that in
Speaker 15: reading somebody else's stories, some type of connection can bring
Speaker 15: someone into therapy and get help. And so it's an influence.
Speaker 15: They're not alone out there, they don't have to hide,
Speaker 15: and just reading that story, maybe it's a loved one
Speaker 15: that someone knows and can help them come in to
Speaker 15: get therapy, just to inspire and to know whoever's suffering,
Speaker 15: they're not alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When you started as a therapist, did you think
Speaker 1: your journey would lead you to what you're doing now,
Speaker 1: not even close.
Speaker 15: I started as a marital therapist, and it became apparent
Speaker 15: that there's other issues within the marriage that I was
Speaker 15: not trained or experienced in discovering and helping. And I
Speaker 15: just felt a strong sense that I needed to understand
Speaker 15: what else is going on. And to make a longer
Speaker 15: story short is, I got introduced to this area called
Speaker 15: sexual addiction porn addiction, and that led me a direction
Speaker 15: to work with addicts in the marriage and to help
Speaker 15: the marriage heal. And then that led me into, well,
Speaker 15: there's two people in a marriage, and so we have
Speaker 15: the partner, the wife in this case, not gender specific,
Speaker 15: but she needed help, and so I searched for organizations
Speaker 15: that specialized in partner trauma care. And so that just
Speaker 15: led in the whole different trajectory. And so now working
Speaker 15: with the husband who has sexual problems, working with a
Speaker 15: wife who's been traumatized by his sexual problems, and then
Speaker 15: utilizing a marital therapy that can help both of them
Speaker 15: with the bigger dynamics that's at place. And so it
Speaker 15: just evolved nothing that I did, I think first as
Speaker 15: a Christian therapist, I just think God just led me
Speaker 15: in that direction.
Speaker 1: And again the name of the book is Healing from Abuse,
Speaker 1: Trauma and Betrayaled Behind the Smile, John Sternfelds with Melissa Roberts,
Speaker 1: and you've already said this, but what do you hope
Speaker 1: people take away from our conversation? And then ultimately I
Speaker 1: hope getting your book, which they can get on Amazon.
Speaker 1: And of course you have a website too.
Speaker 15: Sure yeah, Johnsternfels dot com. But any major book store
Speaker 15: retailer you can pick up the book. It's available in
Speaker 15: all formats, even audio. What we want the book to
Speaker 15: be able to produce is someone reading it, getting hope,
Speaker 15: being encouraged. Don't give up. It is hard work, but nonetheless,
Speaker 15: healing can take place. And Melissa's story is a testament
Speaker 15: even at the worst of worst or the hardest of all,
Speaker 15: Melissa came through it. And if she can do it,
Speaker 15: I know anybody else can.
Speaker 1: Perfect place to end this, John, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: my pleasure go to Johnsternfells dot com. You can get
Speaker 1: a Partner's Guide to Truth and Healing. You can get
Speaker 1: download for Parents, Sex, Social Media and Secrets, Sex, secular, Relativism,
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Speaker 1: Johnsternfells dot com plus the book we just talked about
Speaker 1: Behind the Smile Healing from Abuse, Trauma and Betrayal, and
Speaker 1: he's got a podcast too as well. The podcast is
Speaker 1: so good and so relatable North Point Counseling Perspectives Podcasts.
Speaker 1: You can find the links there. Thanks for listening, everybody.
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Speaker 1: So we're speaking with Reverend Pat Baranski, and again the
Speaker 1: name of the book is The Simplicity of Faith. Part
Speaker 1: one Detroit, Michigan, Michigan to Watertown and Reverend you and
Speaker 1: I talked about this off the air. We talked about
Speaker 1: your growing up and the lessons you learned from your father.
Speaker 1: Tell us about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, Uh, I'm going to have sessions with
Speaker 2: you on Saturdays, and uh, if you want a good life,
Speaker 2: you listen to what I tell you and uh find
Speaker 2: out what people need. So I did, and I ended
Speaker 2: up having my own business. I sold bait, I caught
Speaker 2: bait and I sold it, and I cut lawns and
Speaker 2: I picked up pears and uh whatever I could help
Speaker 2: neighbors with and they'd pay me and tell me to
Speaker 2: come back, and uh so I did and saved money
Speaker 2: and used it wisely. And I wasn't like the other
Speaker 2: people that were so prejudiced that would stop me from
Speaker 2: coming because I didn't happen to be German, and so
Speaker 2: the people on the next block were uh, British and European.
Speaker 18: And I got along good with him, and I found out.
Speaker 2: Things in the community that I could do to help people,
Speaker 2: and they liked the way I did it, and they'd
Speaker 2: pay me.
Speaker 1: And your dad had a nickname for you, he called him.
Speaker 1: He called you my little entrepreneur, didn't he? Yep, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love that just because he That's exactly what he
Speaker 1: instilled in you. And then the fact that also you
Speaker 1: could deal with so many people, which makes sense when
Speaker 1: we talk about your book, The Simplicity of Faith, Part one, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Michigan to Watertown is how did that journey start for you?
Speaker 1: The rev becoming a reverend?
Speaker 18: Well, I.
Speaker 2: When I was in high school for what about three semesters,
Speaker 2: this girl ended up sitting in front of me because
Speaker 2: they would set the kids up alphabetically or something like that,
Speaker 2: and she had beautiful hair, and she was always inviting
Speaker 2: me to church. And I think I mentioned it in
Speaker 2: the book. But anyway, the church that I came to,
Speaker 2: Christ said back then you could put your side as
Speaker 2: close as you could get it to the road, and
Speaker 2: they'd put it on both sides. So I'd see it
Speaker 2: twice a day. I saw it six times. There's one
Speaker 2: mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. So
Speaker 2: I told my wife about it. I said, I'm going
Speaker 2: to check this church out.
Speaker 18: So I went.
Speaker 2: After seeing that for a week, I went to the
Speaker 2: church and he gave an altar call to come and
Speaker 2: accept Christ. I stood up and I looked across the
Speaker 2: aisle and there was this girl that kept telling me
Speaker 2: when I was in high school. She was praying for me.
Speaker 2: So I put my coat up so she couldn't see
Speaker 2: my face as I walked forward to accept Christ, and
Speaker 2: I did. I came back and I told my father
Speaker 2: and he says, that's a good thing. And my mother
Speaker 2: got hostile and blamed it on my wife. My wife
Speaker 2: was on the lane ending at a stairway carrying one
Speaker 2: of the kids, and she took her shoe off and
Speaker 2: was going to hit my wife, and I grabbed her
Speaker 2: arm so she couldn't hit ruby. And my dad looked
Speaker 2: at my mother and said, you had that coming.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for your family too. For the background, so
Speaker 1: people know, I mean in your household, your mom was
Speaker 1: Catholic and your father was Jewish, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And on the day that the priest was going to
Speaker 2: confirm me, my father grabbed his arm and that didn't
Speaker 2: go well with my mother.
Speaker 18: But you know, that's just the way it was. I
Speaker 18: was just a kid being there in the middle of
Speaker 18: their squabble. Again, no, no, we got you.
Speaker 1: And so again the reverend. It's so interesting to hear
Speaker 1: how that all happened. And what's interesting is some of
Speaker 1: what happened in the journey along the way, like your
Speaker 1: relationship with the Green Bay Packers. Tell us about that.
Speaker 18: Oh well, that was after.
Speaker 2: I had come to Christ and we moved to Wisconsin
Speaker 2: and we lived on a farm there because I stood
Speaker 2: for my faith and there was only one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty eight people in that little town, and they were
Speaker 2: all Catholics, so they were kind of gostile towards me.
Speaker 2: And I was a packer fan, and I went to
Speaker 2: work at the canry. And when I was working at
Speaker 2: the canry, I met some of the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 2: and they invited me to their prayer meeting, and.
Speaker 18: So I went from the.
Speaker 2: Canry down to the college, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 2: I went to Central Seminary No Maranatha, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: went to Maranatha Church and then after that I went
Speaker 2: to Central Seminary.
Speaker 18: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it has been an interesting life. And how you
Speaker 1: were called and you knew and did you find your
Speaker 1: way and just you know, get better and relate to
Speaker 1: people as you went along, no matter where it was that.
Speaker 18: You lived pretty much. Yeah, yeah, because well tell her
Speaker 18: about your navy, your duty. Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, when I tried to join the Navy, and I
Speaker 2: fell asleep and didn't pass the test, so they told
Speaker 2: me to uh, well, uh, I don't know, you can
Speaker 2: come back try again. So what I did is I
Speaker 2: joined the Guard Army National Guard, and I got sent
Speaker 2: to Fort Knox, Kentucky, and they were filming Goldfinger when
Speaker 2: I was there.
Speaker 18: And I came back and let's see, I had joined
Speaker 18: the Navy.
Speaker 2: And I passed the test that time, and I had
Speaker 2: two weeks of terminology training learning the difference between Army
Speaker 2: and Navy, and then.
Speaker 18: Six weeks of mail handling.
Speaker 2: And somewhere along the line when I came back, I
Speaker 2: went to the place where I used to There was
Speaker 2: a dance hall on one end and a pool haul
Speaker 2: the other. I used to go there to shoot pool
Speaker 2: little town, and I went in there and I saw
Speaker 2: this young lady that was sweeping the floor and I sat.
Speaker 18: So I went over there and I asked her if
Speaker 18: she wanted to dance with me. She put her.
Speaker 2: Proof down and I went over and put a diamond
Speaker 2: a jukebox and I hit an old popular song. Then
Speaker 2: going to the chapel, and that's where I met my wife.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that story. That's how you met Ruby. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a great story. When people read your book, The
Speaker 1: Simplicity of Faith Part one Detroit, Michigan to Watertown, what
Speaker 1: do you hope they take away.
Speaker 2: The simplicity of faith, which is what all the writing
Speaker 2: was about coming to Christ and how it changed my
Speaker 2: life where I became closer to my father and my
Speaker 2: mother became hostile, and.
Speaker 18: I grew spiritually and to get.
Speaker 2: And we prayed things through and everything we did so
Speaker 2: we do the right thing at the right time and
Speaker 2: the right way.
Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's a perfect place to end this. Reverend Baranski,
Speaker 1: get this book. It is powerful and this story, I mean,
Speaker 1: the simplicity, the lines through it and just what we
Speaker 1: talked about there, you'll get that real glimpse of it
Speaker 1: for sure. Reverend thanks for coming on. Okay, Wow, the
Speaker 1: story of the Reverend Pat Baranski's life and where it
Speaker 1: led him as incredible. He's got the first book too.
Speaker 1: You can get that The Simplicity of Faith Part one Detroit,
Speaker 1: Michigan to Watertown, Wisconsin. This story will just make you
Speaker 1: tear up. But where it ended up incredible. Their daughter
Speaker 1: Michelle nicknamed Nicky, paralyzed at eighteen years old. It was
Speaker 1: just a year and a half ago she died. What
Speaker 1: do we feel for the Baranskis, But this book was powerful.
Speaker 1: It led to them starting a company independence. Plus they
Speaker 1: helped so many people. They have one hundred employees at
Speaker 1: it in Minnesota, all over the place, and what a gem.
Speaker 1: As they told me, their son in law David was
Speaker 1: through everything and just absolutely loved their daughter Micky. But
Speaker 1: Mickey was one of the reasons where they ended up
Speaker 1: where they ended up in the Simplicity of Faith. So
Speaker 1: you can get both of those terrific books on Amazon
Speaker 1: or wherever great books are sold. For a song, my friends,
Speaker 1: and we thank them for coming on.