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<v Speaker 1>I have a plethora of topics that I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>have your opinion on the other night, as many people

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<v Speaker 1>were told in legacy media. And I got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a problem when I say this, because the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was reported. I don't know if you would

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<v Speaker 1>agree with this. Rod, many people heard about a SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>booster rocket hitting the moon, but they never in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm splitting hairs. Tell me I should calm down

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, or maybe not. That it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be in so many of these reports. Is if

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<v Speaker 1>it was something that people could look up into the

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<v Speaker 1>sky and say, it is a gigantic beacon or big blue,

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<v Speaker 1>big plume of material around the moon. Tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>really happened if you have any updates on this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out with the telescope three hundred power in a

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<v Speaker 1>monsoonish partly cloudy sky. The left limb of the moon

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<v Speaker 1>was visible. I waited. I watched other YouTube feeds with

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<v Speaker 1>other telescopes. I saw nothing. Rod Polell tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>More well, and you knew where to look right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So the media portrayed this as depending which venue you

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<v Speaker 2>were looking at, Oh, the sky is falling at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of human civilizations we know it, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>the other one that of course gets me is, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, we're trashing the moon now. Look, humans have

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<v Speaker 2>been throwing crap at the Moon since nineteen fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>The first human thing to hit the Moon was Luna

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<v Speaker 2>to which is basically a metal sphere filled with little

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<v Speaker 2>medallions with the flag of the Soviet Union on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It could claim lunar property before we had a treaty,

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<v Speaker 2>so that spread all over the place, probably vape rize,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of them have survived. Since then, We've had

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<v Speaker 2>four upper stages some Saturn, five rockets impact for seismic studies,

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<v Speaker 2>four lunar module ascent stages. The decent stages were left

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<v Speaker 2>there as a launch platform, but the accent stages were

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<v Speaker 2>crashed back in the surface. Russia's crashed a total of

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen probes of one kind or another, and America seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Largely the Rangers, if you recall, were sent. They were

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<v Speaker 2>suicide missions. You know, they just took pictures as they

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<v Speaker 2>got closer and closer and closer and then impacted the

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<v Speaker 2>lunar surface and that's how they got the extreme close ups.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's nothing new, but you know, most of this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff stace crafted very light. They have to be to

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<v Speaker 2>be launched and flown in space to get theirs is critical.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they hit the surface, they either vaporize or

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<v Speaker 2>at least fragment into tiny metal bits. And the Moon's

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<v Speaker 2>a big place. So what really has done a number

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<v Speaker 2>on the Moon was the great bombardment way back billions

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago, which is why when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the backside, I don't need to tell you this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the backside of the Moon and it

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<v Speaker 2>looks completely devastated compared to the near side because it

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<v Speaker 2>was catching all the incoming flak and protecting the Earth

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<v Speaker 2>to some extent. That really made the Moon into a

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<v Speaker 2>lousy neighborhood. So, you know, compared to that, we've done

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<v Speaker 2>very little as far as seeing it goes as you

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out as the upper west limb. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>one telescope in Spain did upload a video that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that showed a tiny bit of e jecta material.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a few frames worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know a rocket, it's an eighty eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>stage eighty eight hundred pound upper stage of a SpaceX

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<v Speaker 2>rocket which gradually got there because it had dropped off

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of probes that tried to land on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>But compared to the kind of impacts you can see

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<v Speaker 2>flashes from which are you know, tens or hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>tons of these rocks smacked me into the moon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised we didn't see much.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's incredible because if you go back in the

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<v Speaker 1>annals of history, and not to continue on this theme,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's many other topics. According to Canterbury monks around

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<v Speaker 1>the year I think it was eleven to seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>a d. They wrote in their rather prosaic way back then,

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<v Speaker 1>not like you're saying and I are speaking here. They

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it in a different way, even though it was English.

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<v Speaker 1>We think they noticed something on the left edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the moon that looked like it was a big plume

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<v Speaker 1>of fire coming out. They describe it as if the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the large dragon. Now, that may very well

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, now if the media got it right. Not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the media, okay, But the exaggeration that I

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<v Speaker 1>hear because a lot of people don't do the homework

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and they're just talking about it because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the experience that you would have as a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very interesting whatever might have happened in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine one of the giant lunar craters at

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<v Speaker 1>the south, the crater Tycho, sixty miles in diameter. As

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<v Speaker 1>people may not know, but if you do look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon through a telescope or just go out and

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<v Speaker 1>google a picture, you'll see what looks like these big

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<v Speaker 1>long lines coming out of that. Now, I'm pretty confident

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<v Speaker 1>that that would have been seen from the Earth way

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<v Speaker 1>back when. But that was millions of years ago. Well

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<v Speaker 1>there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if, as we had been planning in the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 2>both the US and the Soviet Union were planning to

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<v Speaker 2>detonate nuclear warheads up there as a show of power, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately we finally decided not to because aar rockets kept

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<v Speaker 2>blowing up and b As it turned out, Russians would

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<v Speaker 2>have actually delivered a much larger warhead with a larger

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<v Speaker 2>flash and a larger rejective plume, So we decided it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't worth going toe to toe with them. But that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a show.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have nukes. The moon is not a great thing.