Speaker 1: Thomas on fifty five Chaos E the talk station six
Speaker 1: minutes after seven o'clock. Brian is off tonight today, so
Speaker 1: you got me happy Monday. I want to welcome to
Speaker 1: the program friend of mine, Ken Anderson. He is author
Speaker 1: of a couple of books of Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet.
Speaker 1: But I thought i'd touch base with him because we
Speaker 1: have talked about oh numerous things over the years, and
Speaker 1: one of the things I was interested in is his
Speaker 1: take on this coming upcoming presidential election. Welcome to the program, Ken.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, and I appreciate this opportunity
Speaker 2: to have another discussion with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it as well well from when we
Speaker 1: talked last from what inspired yesterday afternoon. I guess there's
Speaker 1: a whole new different wrinkle to this now with yet
Speaker 1: another assassination attempt, and you've wont to offer your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this or.
Speaker 2: Well, definitely, First of all, I would definitely say that
Speaker 2: these are praying times, and we are praying nation, and
Speaker 2: we need to put aside all of our differences. I
Speaker 2: don't care what race or gender, or political affiliation or
Speaker 2: non affiliation union. We need to get to rate get
Speaker 2: away from all of the demographics and really come to the
Speaker 2: Creator as a nation. And actually, I do you know
Speaker 2: from my book Economic Revolution, I believe in a spiritual
Speaker 2: solution to our material problems. And actually Second Chronicles seven
Speaker 2: and fourteen says that if we go to God and
Speaker 2: do what we're in earnest and He will heal our land.
Speaker 2: So there is a spiritual healing, but it's up to us.
Speaker 2: It's up to us as an individual, and if each
Speaker 2: individual does it, then we'll do it as a nation.
Speaker 2: But these are paying times. I definitely say pray for
Speaker 2: our president. There's an office now, Joe Biden and all
Speaker 2: the candidates and our former president and candidate Trump as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just it becomes more and more obvious that there
Speaker 1: needs to be some solutions and everything needs to be
Speaker 1: on the table. I think we've gotten so far away
Speaker 1: from any type of spirituality, any type of moral compass,
Speaker 1: and that needs to be reinstilled. I mean, I am
Speaker 1: not been the most how should I say, a church
Speaker 1: attending religious person, but I mean there's always been that
Speaker 1: guard rail in terms of my Catholic upbringing and certain
Speaker 1: things as far as how you conduct your life. And
Speaker 1: it's almost like you know, we need a rebirth of
Speaker 1: that in this nation. We need something to believe in
Speaker 1: other than government, which is I think pretty much what
Speaker 1: they want us to believe in anyway, So we need right.
Speaker 2: Let me interject this real quick, because you brought up
Speaker 2: something that's very important. I'm glad you said it because
Speaker 2: coming up and understanding no religion and how that goes
Speaker 2: and then one of that's one of the things that
Speaker 2: divides us, you know, someone the Methodists of Lutherans and
Speaker 2: all that. But there's a difference between religion and spirituality.
Speaker 2: If I was dealing with religion, I have to wait
Speaker 2: till maybe next Wednesday or whatever meeting day, we'd have
Speaker 2: to go to church. But see, spirituality is something people
Speaker 2: could do right now at this moment. It's nothing formal,
Speaker 2: you see, so it's all based on individual self. So
Speaker 2: you know, that's a good thing that you brought up though,
Speaker 2: But I just want to let people know you could
Speaker 2: make that connection with the Creator yourself right now without
Speaker 2: anybody counts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you don't need a church, you don't
Speaker 1: need the steeple. You can you can pray anywhere you want,
Speaker 1: and then you can put your creed into your deed
Speaker 1: and and and act your life accordingly. So you know,
Speaker 1: you don't need to wait till Sunday. You don't need
Speaker 1: to Wednesday or whenever, you know, the synagogue on Saturday.
Speaker 1: You can do it every day of the week. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about this third
Speaker 1: party factor. You know, when we look at the third
Speaker 1: party candidates there, you know, it's interesting that the the
Speaker 1: party that talks about who is a existential threat to democracy,
Speaker 1: how much they are trying to do to keep certain
Speaker 1: candidates that may hurt them off the ballot in all
Speaker 1: these different states. And I you know, it appears as
Speaker 1: though I keep seeing almost every day another third party candidate,
Speaker 1: whether it's Jill Stein or Cornell West and be added
Speaker 1: to the ballots in certain states. How do you see
Speaker 1: this shaking out as far as that is there enough
Speaker 1: there or the Democrats really that concerned about it, or
Speaker 1: how do you see this?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you bring up some good points, because
Speaker 2: I think the first thing is when RFK Jr. When
Speaker 2: he stepped out of the race and he endorsed former
Speaker 2: President Trump. That was a huge move because I believe
Speaker 2: at the time he was pulling about nine percent, maybe
Speaker 2: close to ten percent at that point, and that's enough
Speaker 2: to sway an election. If you look back at Ross
Speaker 2: Perrot both times he ran, he got enough to swing
Speaker 2: the election in favor of Clinton somewhere saying that he
Speaker 2: was like Clinton's lost uncle or something like that about
Speaker 2: so a third party candidacy can be very Now in
Speaker 2: this particular case with Cornell West, this could actually cause
Speaker 2: Vice President Harris some problems in Michigan because they both
Speaker 2: appealed to the same anti Israel Hamas sector of the
Speaker 2: Democratic wing. And there are some people they're really kind
Speaker 2: of ticked off with Harris. But I think more than
Speaker 2: them being ticked off with Harris, it's more they don't
Speaker 2: trust her. That is a main And see, I don't
Speaker 2: know if the Republican Party had picked up on this.
Speaker 2: I talked to some young people in one of the
Speaker 2: things that came really it surprised me. This young man
Speaker 2: said he looked at debate. At the debate, he said, well,
Speaker 2: I thought I think that President Trump won. I'm thinking, like, okay,
Speaker 2: I didn't understand it, you know. So he was saying,
Speaker 2: he was saying the reason why it was because even
Speaker 2: though he came off as bombastic talking about things, you
Speaker 2: know whatever. But even though he came off as unhinged,
Speaker 2: so to speak, he came off as authentic, he said,
Speaker 2: where she came off as fake, and he came off
Speaker 2: as like a parent, like knowing seeing danger in front
Speaker 2: of them for someone that he loves. And he's said, hey,
Speaker 2: you're approaching the you know danger, and the closer you
Speaker 2: get the danger, the more frantic they get. And he
Speaker 2: said that's the reason why he is so charged right now,
Speaker 2: because he really sees that if we don't make the
Speaker 2: right decisions, it could be catastrophic for our economy.
Speaker 1: You know, I was on air that night doing my
Speaker 1: other show, America's Truck, a network that, by the way,
Speaker 1: goes from midnight to one am Tuesday through Friday on WLW.
Speaker 1: But I was in the studio doing getting ready to
Speaker 1: do the show prep and stuff, and I was watching
Speaker 1: the debate, and I was taking notes. I was taking
Speaker 1: frantic you know, I was trying to keep up and
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I don't do shorthands, so I
Speaker 1: was writing stuff down and listening to debate and everything.
Speaker 1: So when the debate was over, I was really upset
Speaker 1: that the fact that in my opinion, Donald Trump didn't
Speaker 1: do the knockout punch as he should have. He didn't
Speaker 1: take opportunity and correct the record and actually even challenge
Speaker 1: the moderators for not fact checking her and so on.
Speaker 1: But when I went back through and I started looking
Speaker 1: at my notes, I was surprised at the points that
Speaker 1: he did make that were glossed over by the analysis afterwards.
Speaker 1: And now I've seen some comments from some people that
Speaker 1: if you read the transcript of the debate, it is
Speaker 1: so one sided towards Trump. It's not funny because, you know,
Speaker 1: you take away the facial expression, you take away the giggling,
Speaker 1: the laughing and so on, her evading reading what she
Speaker 1: actually her answers, there was no substance there, and all
Speaker 1: the substance was over on Trumps side. And I, you know,
Speaker 1: I've heard those analysis and it's kind of amazing. And
Speaker 1: when you look at some of the polling with some
Speaker 1: of these independence that like the gentleman you were talking to,
Speaker 1: that's see, that's they saw a lot better than I
Speaker 1: think the people that are too close to the trees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of times we, you know,
Speaker 2: we are really kind of blinded by the partisan lenses
Speaker 2: that we look through whether it's intentional or unintentional and
Speaker 2: real quick just to give you an idea of a
Speaker 2: typical answer I would call a canned answer. If they
Speaker 2: were to ask her about, say, global warming, she will say, well,
Speaker 2: I think we need to have a conversation about the
Speaker 2: time about global warming in the future. I think that
Speaker 2: all points need to be heard. Man, what do you
Speaker 2: think about cracking. I think we need to have a
Speaker 2: conversation about cracking in the future. And on all things
Speaker 2: that need to be heard, I'm here to hear. I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: we we you know, we are looking for leadership, and
Speaker 2: see we're looking for uh uh you know, policy over
Speaker 2: a sentiment. But see, the thing is, emotions run so high,
Speaker 2: and it's so easily and more easily to manipulate someone
Speaker 2: using uh, some emotional appeal as opposed to the logistical facts.
Speaker 2: And for example, she came up with this uh line
Speaker 2: that Trump wanted to have a Trump tax, he wanted
Speaker 2: to raise taxes on on a like a national sales tax.
Speaker 2: And then that's the last thing that Trump that I
Speaker 2: have done. And I said, I'm you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard various people floating a national sales tax.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that probably in about eight years or so.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, she called it a Trump tax. And so
Speaker 2: but then summerstand because some will say the biggest lie
Speaker 2: has one grain of truth to it. So what what
Speaker 2: what they were talking about is that what they did
Speaker 2: was they manipulated this whole thing about the tear So
Speaker 2: she was saying, well, if you put tariffs on foreign goods,
Speaker 2: then you're gonna then American citizens, we're going to pay
Speaker 2: higher prices for those foreign goods. Therefore that tariff is
Speaker 2: a tax.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's frying. And one of the missing points
Speaker 1: was is that when he was his turn, he said,
Speaker 1: then why has Biden kept these tariffs on for most
Speaker 1: of the things that we did for the last three
Speaker 1: and a half years. And I think that was one
Speaker 1: of his great punches. Hey, we're going to pick this
Speaker 1: up on the other side of the break, and we
Speaker 1: want to talk about some of these other policies and
Speaker 1: some of the things in terms of the giveaways that's
Speaker 1: being talked about in terms from an economic standpoint as
Speaker 1: to what this will do to the economy, but also
Speaker 1: to the nature of the human desire to accomplish something
Speaker 1: as opposed to being handed something. My guest is Ken Anderson,
Speaker 1: author of a couple of books, Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet.
Speaker 1: We'll pick this up on the other side of the break.
Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs
Speaker 1: the Talk Station.
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Speaker 1: The Morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five
Speaker 1: krs the Talk Station, continuing our conversation with Ken Anderson,
Speaker 1: author and local businessman, Economic author of the book Economic
Speaker 1: Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet. Ken, again, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for spending time with us this morning. I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you good.
Speaker 1: You look at the individual freebies that are being tossed around,
Speaker 1: and you know, some would say that's kind of along
Speaker 1: lines of like vote buying, but then has so many problems.
Speaker 1: There are so many issues that we see when you
Speaker 1: start talking about giving away goodies, when you start talking
Speaker 1: about government subsidies and so on, all that does is
Speaker 1: add to inflation and kind of takes away the I
Speaker 1: guess the I don't know the content of being proud
Speaker 1: to have accomplished something, the joy of having accomplished something.
Speaker 1: If something's handed to you. You don't appreciate it as
Speaker 1: much as you do if you earned it.
Speaker 2: I agree on. And what happens is that what we're seeing,
Speaker 2: we're seeing politicians saying, hey, I will give you freebies
Speaker 2: for your votes, and I will give you I will
Speaker 2: promise you think that I know that I can't deliver,
Speaker 2: but you give me your vote now, and then I
Speaker 2: will promise you know I would deliver it. And then
Speaker 2: I always blame it on the other guy. And it's
Speaker 2: like the old doll Wimpy from Popeyes. I would gladly
Speaker 2: pay you next Tuesday for hamburger today. So I would
Speaker 2: gladly promise you everything for your vote today. And by
Speaker 2: the time the voters get around to voting someone out,
Speaker 2: then they get them up into another route up and
Speaker 2: they forget all about it, and it keeps going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, said, well, I tried to deliver this for you,
Speaker 1: but those mean.
Speaker 2: Won't let us do it. Yeah, And so it happens
Speaker 2: all the time. And so one of the things is,
Speaker 2: for example, when it comes to the real estate, I
Speaker 2: talked to some people years ago and they used to
Speaker 2: have not as much now, but they used to call
Speaker 2: it sweat equity. So we had we had some homeowners
Speaker 2: who would maybe do some of the repairs themselves, and
Speaker 2: the process of clothes the loan, you know, maybe raking
Speaker 2: the leaves or painting a porch, and that was all
Speaker 2: in part of the real estate contract. And they would
Speaker 2: get a certain dollar amount towards their down payment, maybe
Speaker 2: towards closing costs, and so that gave them a sense
Speaker 2: of pride because I earned this eight hundred dollars or
Speaker 2: you know. And that's what the American experience is all about.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things that politics is about,
Speaker 2: it's about control of the language. And they very very
Speaker 2: or very slick, and one of the things they talk
Speaker 2: about is the American experiment. No, it's the American experience.
Speaker 2: And the American experience is what JD. Vance represents someone
Speaker 2: who was born and raised on the wrong side of
Speaker 2: the tracks, who are who's faced with adversities and experiences
Speaker 2: the American dream. The reason why they want to get
Speaker 2: away from that because they want to keep that within
Speaker 2: locked within their own little clique. They don't want it
Speaker 2: to be out for the masses, for people to own
Speaker 2: real estate and for people to prosper and to grow
Speaker 2: and to build generational wealth. Sure, their families, it's all
Speaker 2: for it. They're for that. But for everyone else, for
Speaker 2: the average American citizen, they want to shut the doors.
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why it's important that we keep
Speaker 2: our minds and our options open and we focus on
Speaker 2: the policies and understands policies matter, and we have to
Speaker 2: override the quick emotion because that's easy to manipulate.
Speaker 1: It seems to me from what I've seen of watching
Speaker 1: democrats over the years and liberals in particular, is they
Speaker 1: talk a good game about wanting to help people, that
Speaker 1: they want to be there for them and so on.
Speaker 1: But they'll climb the ladder themselves, but instead of leaving
Speaker 1: that ladder down, they'll put it just out of reach
Speaker 1: of the people below them, just so that they can't
Speaker 1: attain what they attain, so that they can keep offering
Speaker 1: them something so that they keep voting for them. And
Speaker 1: I think this is one of the insidious things that
Speaker 1: they do, as far as keep promising people that we
Speaker 1: will take care of this, we will keep taking care
Speaker 1: of this. I mean, you look around at all the
Speaker 1: different blue cities around the country, and are they any
Speaker 1: better off now than they were? Twenty years ago. Are
Speaker 1: there worse all?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was gonna go ahead, go ahead, No, Well, well,
Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I heard someone say before,
Speaker 3: the best anti poverty program is opportunity for gainful employment.
Speaker 2: And if we foster a business, a business atmosphere that
Speaker 2: is that will offer gainful employment, that is the best
Speaker 2: way to do it. As opposed to this class warfare.
Speaker 2: We're going to tag the rich and they're not paying
Speaker 2: their fair share. You know, you you tax the rich
Speaker 2: guy out on unrealized tax, unrealized capital gains. Guess what
Speaker 2: they're going to withdraw their money in the market and
Speaker 2: live on the beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Just one final question, have you ever been
Speaker 1: employed by a poor person?
Speaker 2: Actually no, I've always wanted my bosses to be wealthy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I tell people treat your your job like it's
Speaker 2: your business, because one day it just might be your business.
Speaker 1: Very well could be. Ken. Thank you so much, you bet,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the program today.
Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: My friend God's questions everyone.
Speaker 1: My friend Ken Anderson. Uh yeah, coming up, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: be continuing this and more. I got some other thoughts
Speaker 1: here before we get to the top of the hour.
Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRS.
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