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<v Speaker 1>Thomas on fifty five Chaos E the talk station six

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after seven o'clock. Brian is off tonight today, so

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<v Speaker 1>you got me happy Monday. I want to welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program friend of mine, Ken Anderson. He is author

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of books of Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought i'd touch base with him because we

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about oh numerous things over the years, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I was interested in is his

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<v Speaker 1>take on this coming upcoming presidential election. Welcome to the program, Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, thank you, and I appreciate this opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to have another discussion with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciate it as well well from when we

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<v Speaker 1>talked last from what inspired yesterday afternoon. I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole new different wrinkle to this now with yet

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<v Speaker 1>another assassination attempt, and you've wont to offer your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this or.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, definitely, First of all, I would definitely say that

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<v Speaker 2>these are praying times, and we are praying nation, and

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<v Speaker 2>we need to put aside all of our differences. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care what race or gender, or political affiliation or

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<v Speaker 2>non affiliation union. We need to get to rate get

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<v Speaker 2>away from all of the demographics and really come to the

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<v Speaker 2>Creator as a nation. And actually, I do you know

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<v Speaker 2>from my book Economic Revolution, I believe in a spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>solution to our material problems. And actually Second Chronicles seven

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<v Speaker 2>and fourteen says that if we go to God and

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<v Speaker 2>do what we're in earnest and He will heal our land.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is a spiritual healing, but it's up to us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's up to us as an individual, and if each

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<v Speaker 2>individual does it, then we'll do it as a nation.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are paying times. I definitely say pray for

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<v Speaker 2>our president. There's an office now, Joe Biden and all

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<v Speaker 2>the candidates and our former president and candidate Trump as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it becomes more and more obvious that there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be some solutions and everything needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the table. I think we've gotten so far away

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<v Speaker 1>from any type of spirituality, any type of moral compass,

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<v Speaker 1>and that needs to be reinstilled. I mean, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not been the most how should I say, a church

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<v Speaker 1>attending religious person, but I mean there's always been that

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<v Speaker 1>guard rail in terms of my Catholic upbringing and certain

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<v Speaker 1>things as far as how you conduct your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like you know, we need a rebirth of

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<v Speaker 1>that in this nation. We need something to believe in

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<v Speaker 1>other than government, which is I think pretty much what

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<v Speaker 1>they want us to believe in anyway, So we need right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me interject this real quick, because you brought up

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<v Speaker 2>something that's very important. I'm glad you said it because

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<v Speaker 2>coming up and understanding no religion and how that goes

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<v Speaker 2>and then one of that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>divides us, you know, someone the Methodists of Lutherans and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. But there's a difference between religion and spirituality.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was dealing with religion, I have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>till maybe next Wednesday or whatever meeting day, we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to go to church. But see, spirituality is something people

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<v Speaker 2>could do right now at this moment. It's nothing formal,

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<v Speaker 2>you see, so it's all based on individual self. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a good thing that you brought up though,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want to let people know you could

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<v Speaker 2>make that connection with the Creator yourself right now without

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<v Speaker 2>anybody counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, you don't need a church, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need the steeple. You can you can pray anywhere you want,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can put your creed into your deed

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<v Speaker 1>and and and act your life accordingly. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to wait till Sunday. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to Wednesday or whenever, you know, the synagogue on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do it every day of the week. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a little bit about this third

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<v Speaker 1>party factor. You know, when we look at the third

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<v Speaker 1>party candidates there, you know, it's interesting that the the

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<v Speaker 1>party that talks about who is a existential threat to democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>how much they are trying to do to keep certain

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<v Speaker 1>candidates that may hurt them off the ballot in all

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<v Speaker 1>these different states. And I you know, it appears as

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<v Speaker 1>though I keep seeing almost every day another third party candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Jill Stein or Cornell West and be added

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<v Speaker 1>to the ballots in certain states. How do you see

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<v Speaker 1>this shaking out as far as that is there enough

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<v Speaker 1>how do you see this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you bring up some good points, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first thing is when RFK Jr. When

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<v Speaker 2>he stepped out of the race and he endorsed former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump. That was a huge move because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>at the time he was pulling about nine percent, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>close to ten percent at that point, and that's enough

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<v Speaker 2>to sway an election. If you look back at Ross

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<v Speaker 2>Perrot both times he ran, he got enough to swing

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<v Speaker 2>the election in favor of Clinton somewhere saying that he

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<v Speaker 2>was like Clinton's lost uncle or something like that about

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<v Speaker 2>so a third party candidacy can be very Now in

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<v Speaker 2>this particular case with Cornell West, this could actually cause

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Harris some problems in Michigan because they both

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<v Speaker 2>appealed to the same anti Israel Hamas sector of the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic wing. And there are some people they're really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ticked off with Harris. But I think more than

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<v Speaker 2>them being ticked off with Harris, it's more they don't

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<v Speaker 2>trust her. That is a main And see, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the Republican Party had picked up on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to some young people in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that came really it surprised me. This young man

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<v Speaker 2>said he looked at debate. At the debate, he said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I think that President Trump won. I'm thinking, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand it, you know. So he was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>he was saying the reason why it was because even

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<v Speaker 2>though he came off as bombastic talking about things, you

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever. But even though he came off as unhinged,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, he came off as authentic, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>where she came off as fake, and he came off

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<v Speaker 2>as like a parent, like knowing seeing danger in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them for someone that he loves. And he's said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're approaching the you know danger, and the closer you

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<v Speaker 2>get the danger, the more frantic they get. And he

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<v Speaker 2>said that's the reason why he is so charged right now,

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<v Speaker 2>because he really sees that if we don't make the

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<v Speaker 2>right decisions, it could be catastrophic for our economy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was on air that night doing my

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<v Speaker 1>other show, America's Truck, a network that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>goes from midnight to one am Tuesday through Friday on WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was in the studio doing getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>do the show prep and stuff, and I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>the debate, and I was taking notes. I was taking

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<v Speaker 1>frantic you know, I was trying to keep up and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm you know, I don't do shorthands, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was writing stuff down and listening to debate and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the debate was over, I was really upset

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<v Speaker 1>that the fact that in my opinion, Donald Trump didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the knockout punch as he should have. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take opportunity and correct the record and actually even challenge

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<v Speaker 1>the moderators for not fact checking her and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I went back through and I started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my notes, I was surprised at the points that

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<v Speaker 1>he did make that were glossed over by the analysis afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I've seen some comments from some people that

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<v Speaker 1>if you read the transcript of the debate, it is

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<v Speaker 1>so one sided towards Trump. It's not funny because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you take away the facial expression, you take away the giggling,

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<v Speaker 1>the laughing and so on, her evading reading what she

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<v Speaker 1>actually her answers, there was no substance there, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the substance was over on Trumps side. And I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard those analysis and it's kind of amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at some of the polling with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these independence that like the gentleman you were talking to,

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<v Speaker 1>that's see, that's they saw a lot better than I

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<v Speaker 1>think the people that are too close to the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think a lot of times we, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we are really kind of blinded by the partisan lenses

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<v Speaker 2>that we look through whether it's intentional or unintentional and

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<v Speaker 2>typical answer I would call a canned answer. If they

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<v Speaker 2>were to ask her about, say, global warming, she will say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need to have a conversation about the

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<v Speaker 2>time about global warming in the future. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>all points need to be heard. Man, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about cracking. I think we need to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about cracking in the future. And on all things

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<v Speaker 2>that need to be heard, I'm here to hear. I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we we you know, we are looking for leadership, and

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<v Speaker 2>see we're looking for uh uh you know, policy over

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<v Speaker 2>a sentiment. But see, the thing is, emotions run so high,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so easily and more easily to manipulate someone

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<v Speaker 2>using uh, some emotional appeal as opposed to the logistical facts.

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<v Speaker 2>And for example, she came up with this uh line

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump wanted to have a Trump tax, he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to raise taxes on on a like a national sales tax.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that's the last thing that Trump that I

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<v Speaker 2>have done. And I said, I'm you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've heard various people floating a national sales tax.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard that probably in about eight years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, she called it a Trump tax. And so

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<v Speaker 2>but then summerstand because some will say the biggest lie

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<v Speaker 2>has one grain of truth to it. So what what

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<v Speaker 2>what they were talking about is that what they did

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<v Speaker 2>she was saying, well, if you put tariffs on foreign goods,

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<v Speaker 2>higher prices for those foreign goods. Therefore that tariff is

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's frying. And one of the missing points

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<v Speaker 1>was is that when he was his turn, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>then why has Biden kept these tariffs on for most

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that we did for the last three

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<v Speaker 1>of his great punches. Hey, we're going to pick this

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<v Speaker 1>up on the other side of the break, and we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about some of these other policies and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things in terms of the giveaways that's

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<v Speaker 1>being talked about in terms from an economic standpoint as

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<v Speaker 1>to what this will do to the economy, but also

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<v Speaker 1>to the nature of the human desire to accomplish something

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to being handed something. My guest is Ken Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>author of a couple of books, Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll pick this up on the other side of the break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs

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<v Speaker 2>This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio Station.

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<v Speaker 1>The Morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>krs the Talk Station, continuing our conversation with Ken Anderson,

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<v Speaker 1>author and local businessman, Economic author of the book Economic

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<v Speaker 1>Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet. Ken, again, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for spending time with us this morning. I certainly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you good.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the individual freebies that are being tossed around,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, some would say that's kind of along

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<v Speaker 1>lines of like vote buying, but then has so many problems.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many issues that we see when you

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<v Speaker 1>guess the I don't know the content of being proud

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<v Speaker 1>to have accomplished something, the joy of having accomplished something.

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<v Speaker 1>If something's handed to you. You don't appreciate it as

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<v Speaker 2>I agree on. And what happens is that what we're seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing politicians saying, hey, I will give you freebies

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<v Speaker 2>for your votes, and I will give you I will

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<v Speaker 2>promise you think that I know that I can't deliver,

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<v Speaker 2>but you give me your vote now, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>will promise you know I would deliver it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I always blame it on the other guy. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the old doll Wimpy from Popeyes. I would gladly

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<v Speaker 2>pay you next Tuesday for hamburger today. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>gladly promise you everything for your vote today. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the time the voters get around to voting someone out,

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<v Speaker 2>then they get them up into another route up and

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<v Speaker 2>they forget all about it, and it keeps going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, said, well, I tried to deliver this for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but those mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't let us do it. Yeah, And so it happens

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. And so one of the things is,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, when it comes to the real estate, I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to some people years ago and they used to

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<v Speaker 2>it sweat equity. So we had we had some homeowners

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<v Speaker 2>the leaves or painting a porch, and that was all

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<v Speaker 2>towards closing costs, and so that gave them a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of pride because I earned this eight hundred dollars or

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And that's what the American experience is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, one of the things that politics is about,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about control of the language. And they very very

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<v Speaker 2>or very slick, and one of the things they talk

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<v Speaker 2>about is the American experiment. No, it's the American experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And the American experience is what JD. Vance represents someone

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks, who are who's faced with adversities and experiences

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<v Speaker 2>the American dream. The reason why they want to get

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<v Speaker 2>away from that because they want to keep that within

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<v Speaker 2>locked within their own little clique. They don't want it

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<v Speaker 2>real estate and for people to prosper and to grow

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<v Speaker 2>and to build generational wealth. Sure, their families, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>for it. They're for that. But for everyone else, for

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<v Speaker 2>the average American citizen, they want to shut the doors.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the reason why it's important that we keep

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<v Speaker 2>the policies and understands policies matter, and we have to

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<v Speaker 2>override the quick emotion because that's easy to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me from what I've seen of watching

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<v Speaker 1>democrats over the years and liberals in particular, is they

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<v Speaker 1>talk a good game about wanting to help people, that

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be there for them and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>But they'll climb the ladder themselves, but instead of leaving

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<v Speaker 1>that ladder down, they'll put it just out of reach

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<v Speaker 1>of the people below them, just so that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>attain what they attain, so that they can keep offering

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is one of the insidious things that

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<v Speaker 1>they do, as far as keep promising people that we

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<v Speaker 1>of this. I mean, you look around at all the

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<v Speaker 1>different blue cities around the country, and are they any

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<v Speaker 1>better off now than they were? Twenty years ago. Are

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<v Speaker 1>there worse all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I was gonna go ahead, go ahead, No, Well, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say, I heard someone say before,

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<v Speaker 3>the best anti poverty program is opportunity for gainful employment.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we foster a business, a business atmosphere that

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<v Speaker 2>is that will offer gainful employment, that is the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to do it. As opposed to this class warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to tag the rich and they're not paying

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<v Speaker 2>their fair share. You know, you you tax the rich

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<v Speaker 2>guy out on unrealized tax, unrealized capital gains. Guess what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to withdraw their money in the market and

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<v Speaker 2>live on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. Just one final question, have you ever been

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<v Speaker 1>employed by a poor person?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually no, I've always wanted my bosses to be wealthy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I tell people treat your your job like it's

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<v Speaker 2>your business, because one day it just might be your business.

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<v Speaker 1>Very well could be. Ken. Thank you so much, you bet,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being on the program today.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend God's questions everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Ken Anderson. Uh yeah, coming up, Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be continuing this and more. I got some other thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>here before we get to the top of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRS.

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<v Speaker 1>The talk station fifty five KRC.

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<v Speaker 2>A minute of