WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.559 Hello, and welcome to the Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I 2 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.679 am Mark and I'm raring to talk Halfmeyer. 3 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.640 Oh Jay, and I'm rare to play clue. Welcome Deeply. 4 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:27.480 Was that your introg? Did I still your intro? 5 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.199 No? We both did it. It works. It's I like it. 6 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:32.600 I was like, is he going to do it? I reckon? 7 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:34.840 He cook is Deeply of the podcast. On this show, 8 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.079 we've been through the entire Deeply See trilogy Seen by scene. 9 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.039 We're doing it again, but not today. Today we're talking 10 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.920 about a Deep bluecy adjacent film and continuing our twenty 11 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.560 twenty six euar of reptiles with Eaten Alive also known 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.359 as Death Trap s His nineteen seventy six is Eaten Alive, 13 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:51.479 not to be confused with nineteen eighties Eaten Live, both 14 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:54.000 starring the same actor Mel Ferrer, who's in both of them. 15 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.399 What is Eating Life nineteen seventy six. It's directed by 16 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:01.960 Toby Hooper, stars Neville brown And as Judd, the owner 17 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:06.560 and proprietor of the worst motel, just the worst motel, 18 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.519 horrible place. Anyone that comes there, he'll feed you to 19 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:13.439 his alligator crocodile. I'm sure which one of it is 20 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.200 it's claim to be both. Throughout the film, it stars 21 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:20.719 the likes of Karen Jones, Milfairy, Nobill Brand, Marilyn Burns, 22 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:25.480 William Finley, Stewart Whitman, Kyle Richards, a bunch of Robert 23 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:30.079 England of course, Rennie Harden regular Robert England as Buck 24 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.560 who likes to do things that rhyme with his name. 25 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.760 Borrows, Yes, exactly and yeah. 26 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.079 Hilarity ensues when random people come to this hotel and 27 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.400 don't leave except in an alligator. So we need someone 28 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.319 who requested suggested I can't remember. We'll get into it. 29 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:50.920 This film mentioned I think mentioned this film in. 30 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:51.640 Part years ago. 31 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:55.799 And when you mentioned a film that we could cover 32 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:57.519 this podcast, I will put it in ours bridgheet and 33 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.280 I'll put your name next to it. And that's where 34 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.719 we are today. So back from two fust two forever 35 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.400 is Joey Dowandowski. Joe Joey, welcome back to the show. 36 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:07.200 Well, thank you for having me. I do want to 37 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:08.719 clarify this is not a movie that I'm like, I 38 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:10.520 cannot wait to talk about this movie with you guys. 39 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.800 I want to watch this movie again, this movie And 40 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.680 she's like, hey, there's a crocodile in this movie, and 41 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:18.240 you years ago were just like okay, and then like 42 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.000 six months ago, said hey, remember that movie you really 43 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.080 wanted to talk about? And I said, no, I don't, 44 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.560 But here I am talking about Eating a Lie by 45 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:26.199 Tobe Hooper. 46 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.599 See Joey's lying because his entire house has always been 47 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.479 lit red. Like it's just whenever I've recorded with you 48 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.960 for years, you've always just had a really red bedroom. 49 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.199 You Like, the first thing you ever said to me 50 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.000 was like, I'm Joey and I'm rare into something, Like 51 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:44.840 I thought you like live this movie. I do have. 52 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:46.960 It's not hung up now because I changed offices, but 53 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:48.879 my sister got me for years ago for our Cage 54 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.280 Club podcast network. It's a cage club laid up like 55 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.800 led Sign or whatever, and it is red. So when 56 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.199 that was on, it was red. So you are right, 57 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.159 So I was caught in the lie. I do love 58 00:02:59.199 --> 00:02:59.599 this movie. 59 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.639 You've just adopted your whole personality around it, which I 60 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.319 kind of have a question. So Jay watches a lot 61 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.199 of movies on trains. He makes a lot of journeys 62 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.719 on trains, and I was like, do not watch this 63 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:14.159 on the train? 64 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:14.800 Don't. 65 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.159 I didn't do not put this on a train, just 66 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.319 don't do it. So I got I got wondering, Joey, 67 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:21.680 since you're you know you're you're the co host of 68 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.639 the Too Fast You Forever podcast, which Fast and Furious 69 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:27.520 movie would be the worst to watch on a train? 70 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.280 Now I've broken it down for you, Okay, I want 71 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:32.680 to hear your thoughts. Do you want me to give 72 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:33.639 your thoughts or do you want me to give a 73 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.080 couple of the movies I've thought about. 74 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.759 I would love to hear your opinions first, so I 75 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:39.719 have time to think about this because I have an 76 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:41.080 initial idea, but I. 77 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.719 I want to hear what you have to think, all right, 78 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.039 So the first Fast and Furious movie has like a 79 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:48.800 sex scene, probably one of the few to have a 80 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:50.919 sex scene, and it was just a making out scene. 81 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.919 A lot of butt grabbing in that. And then there's 82 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.719 Furious seven where James wand went but crazy, like we 83 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.360 had to analyze, like you just watched that movie and 84 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.759 every outfit's just blowing up in the air. So there's 85 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:06.479 not a lot of you know, there's nothing like eating alive, 86 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.599 but there's still a lot of that going on. I 87 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:13.280 feel like eight, nine, and ten not bad. Six probably 88 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.519 fine fast, five has some some uh you know, vin 89 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.879 in Elsa stuff, but that's four is fine. I think 90 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:25.000 three is good, but yeah, I think one or seven 91 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:26.480 might be. 92 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.399 So my initial thought was five because the same for 93 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.480 the same reason that six is not on in flight 94 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.680 monitors because six is a plane crash, and so they 95 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.879 don't have plane crash movies on planes, like you can 96 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:44.839 watch Faster Fear of six on your iPad or whatever. 97 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.879 But like they when I was flying years ago, they're like, oh, 98 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:49.480 they have five, seven, eight. I'm like, going, what did 99 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.360 there's no six. I was like, oh, because they don't 100 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.240 want to show as a thing like when people are 101 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:55.439 freaked out about they're gonna crash or whatever. So I'm 102 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.680 thinking maybe five because there is the hijacking at the 103 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.399 beginning where they're trying to get the cars off, and 104 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.639 then you know, Dom shows somebody to the sides. Like 105 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:06.040 I wonder if people are watching your screen and they're 106 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.199 seeing a train get jacked into or broken into or 107 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.240 you know whatever, and they're like, is that gonna happen 108 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.079 to us? And then and then that's like taking watching it. 109 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.319 I don't think that there's really any of the movies 110 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.759 that you have a problem with watching on on I do. 111 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.000 I watched We Bury the Dead on a recent flight, 112 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.360 which is the Daisy Ridley movie, and there's nothing like 113 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.120 too bad, but it does start with like a like 114 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:30.639 literally the first minute is like the US has dropped 115 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.720 a bomb outside of Tasmania and it like decimated all 116 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.240 of Australia. I'm just like, oh, like this is like 117 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.759 a choice for you know, people just be looking at 118 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.639 my screen. But yeah, whenever there's need to your things, 119 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.560 I try to like awkwardly like no, I'm not like 120 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.240 a total pervert. I just I'm a cinephile or whatever. Right, 121 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.839 But I think short story, fast and furious. I think 122 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.800 they're all fine to watching a train. This movie not 123 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:48.199 so much. 124 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.319 And then jay I put together a top five from 125 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.600 Deep Bluesy. But I will let you covid okay, okay 126 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:56.879 that we've covered on Deep Bluesy. Eaten Live is number one. 127 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.600 Uh sure, yes, I think that's fair just. 128 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:07.240 Because all right, number two Pana three double D. Absolutely, yes, 129 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.720 Number three is Pana three D because I put d 130 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.720 D because's just more it's just a worse movie, you know, 131 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:15.720 it's there in the tunnel. 132 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.199 Yeah, it's not the embarrassment factor of like he's watching booth, 133 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.399 but also he's watching Piranha three double D. 134 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:25.079 People are watching Piranha. You know that'd be interesting if 135 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.439 a kid like people behind you are watching your screen 136 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:29.680 it's Parana three D. I wonder if halfway through they'd 137 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:31.639 be like, this is a good movie, and then they 138 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:32.160 sort of get in. 139 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.519 He's reaching for his like I mean this I I 140 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:36.519 kind of completed, but I have a big Piranha stack. 141 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.439 So I've got Piranha Parana two, Parana three D, and 142 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.560 Piranha three double D. The bottom two I recommend, the 143 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.279 top two I recommend less, but you know all of 144 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:46.319 them are good. 145 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.360 When you turn around, the entire plane is behind you, 146 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.879 just watching with you, and I like super into it. 147 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:52.360 One thing? 148 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.839 Would you would you count this? I on a plane 149 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.160 about a year ago. I don't remember where's flying back from, 150 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.199 but I was just listening to a podcast and the 151 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.639 woman ahead of me across the aisle was watching a 152 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.759 movie with subtitles, and I read the entire movie as 153 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.160 she watched it, and I was like, I watched this, 154 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.560 so I logged it on letterbox I didn't hear something 155 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:14.279 sound from it, but I watched it and I read it. 156 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.480 Yeah, I mean I think I would count that. I 157 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:17.600 would pretty do the same. 158 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.560 That's fair. I watched Regretting You while I was watching 159 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.639 another movie, and I was like, this is crazy. This 160 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.240 movie's nuts, and I had a good I found myself 161 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.879 watching Regarding You two aisles away rather than the movie 162 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:31.720 I was watching. Oh you watched it on a plane 163 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.720 on a Colleen Hoover with no sound. But while watching him, 164 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:39.439 like something weird's happening, I got just not even. I 165 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.759 was like, what's happening in this movie? I was good, Yeah, 166 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:42.560 it was enthralling. 167 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:44.560 Sometimes I try to, like, if I go to the bathroom, 168 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.439 like just like you walk by like a bunch of 169 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.000 people watching things. I try to like pick out as 170 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.160 many as I recognize. I'm like, oh, this person's wearing 171 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:52.480 the market watching the Mark Marin documentary, which is available 172 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.759 on United flights, now, I'm like, okay, cool, like good 173 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.439 for them. So I try to like identify and be like, oh, 174 00:07:58.480 --> 00:07:59.839 fast and furious, cool, very cool. 175 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.920 I'm happy they took off smoke signals because I guess 176 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.560 kept watching that over and over every flight. I'd watch 177 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.720 Smoke Signals because I love that movie. Not sure why, 178 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:10.839 but it's like, hey, Smoke Signals is on, I'll watch that. 179 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.000 So I'm kind of glad they took it off because 180 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.920 I can watch new movies but not out there. Number 181 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:22.120 four J deep Water with uh yeah show Aflac Yeah. 182 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.319 Yeah that deep Water. Yeah, because like the new one. 183 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:25.519 I'd love to watch Down the Plane souse. 184 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:28.319 I just didn't watch it plane crash with sharks. That'd 185 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:29.319 be amazing. 186 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:30.040 I just want to see it. 187 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:30.720 I just want to see it. 188 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:32.240 I just want to see it. 189 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.440 Nose four Nightmare and Elmtree four. I think there's some 190 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:38.159 there's just you know, like the waterbed scene and stuff, 191 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:42.600 and then there's Tentacles, which Tentacles has some Tentacles has 192 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:47.480 some stuff right kind of yeah, it follows. I think 193 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.639 there's some it follows stuff in there that with throw 194 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.639 some people up. But Eaten Live is the worst. We 195 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:54.799 have you train or automobile movie? 196 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.600 Have you started expanding to like emotional water, because like 197 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.559 deep water, there's not literal water. Do you cover just 198 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.919 because it's in the title, I didn't know. 199 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.399 Yeah, it was called deep water and like that sounds 200 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.360 like dev Jason and Mark wasn't an episode, but I 201 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:08.120 found someone who would want to talk about it, and 202 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.360 then we watched it and we're like, this isn't this 203 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:12.200 doesn't really apply. There's some pool stuff. 204 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:13.840 No, but I like that, you're I like that they 205 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.200 don't ever expand, like you know, in the business term 206 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.759 I hate. I'm sorry you came on like screep on 207 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:21.919 some scope creep where it just like it just gets 208 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:23.879 a little bit, but be like, oh there's water in 209 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:25.639 the title. That's nothing to do with water. There's no 210 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.600 water scenes. But I like that the scope creep of 211 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:29.279 it all or whatever. 212 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.840 Yes, I mean. In my massive spreadsheet of potential films 213 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.399 we cover, I do have a column that is films 214 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.879 with deep in the title, films with blue in the title, 215 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.240 films would see in it? Will we cover three colors blue? 216 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.559 At some point I'm not rolling it out. I haven't 217 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:42.919 seen it. 218 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.960 It isn't a years in advanced sneak preview for Too 219 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.879 Fast You Forever listeners. If they're listening to this, all 220 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:50.480 the patrons know they're the ones I think it would 221 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:52.159 probably be like want you follow me over here? But 222 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.240 we are doing a lap from years from now either 223 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.559 Fast in the title, four in the title Ever in 224 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.320 the title Forever in the title. So you know that's it. 225 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:01.879 We're right there with you. I think you should do 226 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.440 Deep Blue or See the same time the Fast Forever 227 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.000 comes out, so we can be doing the same thing, 228 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.159 but totally separate sets of movies. 229 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.840 Sure, yeah, I'm in. I'm just scrolling through the list 230 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.639 of films that cover See there anything worse to watch 231 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.159 on public transport because, as Michael saying, I have watched 232 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.159 a bunch of stuff on trains recently because I have 233 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.200 two like six hour train journeys a week at the moment. 234 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:31.039 Not recommended, don't recommend it, don't do it. So I 235 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.720 think the worst films or the most inappropriate films I 236 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.440 have watched recently, I've made a little list. Number five 237 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.639 is a personal one was Train Dreams, A great film, 238 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.519 love I love the film Train Dreams, but a bad 239 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:45.480 film to watch when you're on a train being taken 240 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.559 away from your family to go and walk somewhere for 241 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.960 a week. What do you want to do is stay 242 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.039 with them? And then what happens over the course of 243 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.240 that film is that it is making me sad, but 244 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:57.080 it still made like my top five of last year. 245 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.080 Number four, I watched like half of Die My Love 246 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:06.240 and I half of Mother exclamation mark on on on trains, 247 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.440 but the kin of them both. 248 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:11.080 Confused some people. 249 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.440 Yeah, I mean it confused me. I didn't enjoy it. 250 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.919 Number three I watched the entirety of Inland Empire on 251 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:22.720 in one one one mass train journey, well, four trains journey, Well, 252 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.840 there was four trains, A little breaks here on there. 253 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:29.360 It's an odd film. I didn't like it. Stuff happens 254 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.360 on screen that isn't good. It's like some sex work 255 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.559 going on. And then two recent ones. I watched Monkey 256 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:40.200 Shines recently, a not great film, but that has a 257 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:46.600 very graphic oral sex sequence in it with a paraplegic 258 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.120 providing pleasure to a lady. 259 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.919 And then eyes back on the train watching his movies. 260 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.159 Yeah, No, one's real animation which I was recently on 261 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:02.159 the train, a whole naked zombies once, various sex scenes. 262 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.919 I had this all on an iPad, and you know, 263 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.240 I've got a cover for it, so I was like 264 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.679 watching some of it holding it like a V shape 265 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.039 with the cover, just like peeking down and like peeping 266 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.919 at my own iPad to watch. So, yeah, I have 267 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.000 made some mistakes in my life recently. 268 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.360 We need to get you one of those VR headsets 269 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:23.639 for the train, just so you put it on the 270 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.600 front and put the goggles on and then you just 271 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:26.000 watch it. 272 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:28.399 And then I find out that my audio wasn't going 273 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.159 through the headphones. It's speaking broadcast for everybody the hotel. 274 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:32.639 You're watching Reservoir Dogs. 275 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:38.559 Yeah, that's a lot of day, all right, Eaten alive, Yes, 276 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:41.919 even alive. This one a horrible film. 277 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:45.559 Tolby Hooper. I love him. So I've been listening to 278 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.799 interviews and he called himself my topic and I'm like, boy, 279 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.480 are you right about that? Because I feel like he 280 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.399 has a self destructive side, where like, hey, go make 281 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:56.279 Texas Chainsaw Masks a sequel to Texas Chainsaw Masker. I mean, 282 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.399 turns out TCM two, which is amazing, but not what 283 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.600 can films wanted, Like go make Life Force about a 284 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.919 naked space vampire and it kind of makes it classy. 285 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:08.720 I think, if you're gonna hire Toby, you better be 286 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:12.279 ready to get a Toby movie. And so on this 287 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.240 one they hired him. There, we wrote the script. They're like, 288 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.000 you can't go anywhere so he just shot a He 289 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:19.519 called it a surrealist Twilight world in the grim fairy tale. 290 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.159 So he turned a Jaws rip off into this and 291 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:25.480 I kind of love it. And it's really gross and 292 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:28.840 it's very raunchy, and there's a slap fight and a 293 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.000 lot of bad wigs and some barking and makeup. 294 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.320 But I listened to commentary today with a bunch of 295 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.639 the people that made it, including like the one of 296 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.080 the making people, some of the actors, one of the writers, 297 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.200 and yeah, this wasn't a pleasant film to make. They 298 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:46.080 got on with it flam but it's like entirely shot 299 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.759 in one on the set for the most part. I 300 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:51.840 don't want the like put out do a pool in 301 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.159 the forest, but on a set that's fun. 302 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.799 They couldn't move the camera. It was filmed in like 303 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:58.639 a blimp. They called it a blimp Mitchell and I 304 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.360 looked that up if you just look it up. Huge, 305 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:02.159 So they couldn't move the camera. They're in a sound 306 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.840 stage and they're making the growdiest film ever. And Robert 307 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:06.360 England know, he's like, I liked working on it. 308 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.039 It was his first film pretty much, so he had 309 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:09.279 made a. 310 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.320 Bunch of the seventies, and then he was like the 311 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.559 sixties seventies, and then he was But I was like, 312 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:15.759 I know you liked it, Robert, you get out of here. 313 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.960 But yeah, Joey, what are your thoughts about you? You 314 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.879 recommended it, It's one of your favorite movies, so what 315 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:22.639 do you think about it? 316 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:24.559 I first saw it a couple of years ago. I 317 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:25.960 don't know if you guys have talked about this. I 318 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.919 think at least Mark you're aware of it, and Jay 319 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.159 I assume you are too. But there's the ooptober on 320 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.279 letterbox where in honor of Toby Hooper, and so part 321 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.360 of that, there's a challenge every September fifteenth through Halloween 322 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:38.080 where you're trying to watch thirty one different movies. You 323 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.600 need to pick your list at meet certain criteria. But 324 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.200 one of the criteria is always there must be a 325 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:44.360 Tobe Hooper movie. So like, I've done this four or 326 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.440 five times by now, and I'm just looking through and 327 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.360 I'm like, oh, I don't know what this is, but 328 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.039 I'm always down for like a creature feature, and maybe 329 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.360 like sometime there were like creature features whatever. I found 330 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:55.039 other great movies that way through that thing. But I 331 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:56.639 saw this, I'm just like, oh, this is kind of 332 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.600 a gnarly movie. And I think probably shortly thereafter I 333 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:01.519 was like, hey, you know this, and then he put 334 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:03.039 down the book, the big Book of lists. 335 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:04.399 Here we are. 336 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.559 I like this movie. I liked it less this time 337 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.200 than the first time, but I still enjoy, if that's 338 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.480 the right word, watching it. I think the fact that 339 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.840 they're on a set really works because it feels surreal 340 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:18.559 in a way that does not feel like if you 341 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.879 were just shooting this at some like ranch next to 342 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:25.720 like a swamp, it would feel different, worse. But like 343 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.919 this is like creepy and like claustrophobic in a way 344 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.200 that being outside kind of shouldn't. And I think that 345 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.960 there is something really just like icky about this. I 346 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.240 mean like Texas Chainsaw, Like he goes from a movie 347 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:39.919 that I don't know, I don't remember the item right down, 348 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:41.960 but then then it goes to Texas Chainsaw and then this, 349 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:43.960 so like this is right on the heels of that, 350 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.200 and like it's just this is a feel bad movie 351 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:47.559 and it does the job. 352 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:53.600 Yeah. Yeah, Like I love Hooper because with TCM and this, 353 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.960 he puts you through it and he he knows how 354 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.200 to make you feel gross while watching a movie. And 355 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.960 I think that's the key to what Texas Chainsaw Masker 356 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.480 does well and something that you can't really recreate. When 357 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.080 he did the sequel, he did Him and Cry, that 358 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:09.279 was just such a fair summer Texas low budget movie, 359 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.000 and so watching him move to La and try something 360 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:16.200 different with this film, Yeah, but from the opening scene 361 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.399 and then you know, you think it's maybe gonna be 362 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.960 like Psycho, but the lady just spoilers, gets wiped out immediately, 363 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:25.480 I mean immediately and just killed. And then a family 364 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.320 comes in and they're insane. I don't even they're criminals. 365 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.919 Maybe the lady has a wig. The guy's barking is 366 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:34.159 looking for the eyeball. The poor girl. It's good she 367 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.600 got away from them. And then you just you get 368 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:41.600 all these really sort of tawdry characters and odd people 369 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.679 coming around, and you know, the guy has a scythe 370 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.600 which you know, the Toby kind of compared to, you know, 371 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.519 like someone in the underworld, and there's just these themes 372 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.799 of like it's almost like, yeah, like like Joey said, 373 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.000 a fairy tale world. Hooper called it a sy realistic 374 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:59.960 Twilight surrealistic Twilight World in it. I guess it worked 375 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:05.200 because he's trying something here. At least this is a 376 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.720 film that try something, and I'll always give that the 377 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:10.559 benefit of the doubt. 378 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.519 William Finley, who's Roy, who's the dad of that family, 379 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:16.599 he was one of the people on the on the 380 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:19.680 commentary and he talked about he saw the script and 381 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:21.559 he was like reading through it, like what is what 382 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:25.519 is this? And he kind of picked up the vibe 383 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.680 that there's a few different characters in here who just 384 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.440 kind of do things weirdly, and it's him, and it's Judd, 385 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.079 and it's the guy doing the slap fight in the bar, 386 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.720 and that that's surrealist a world view kind of makes sense. 387 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.759 And he just kind of took that and goes, well, 388 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.279 what if at some point my character is looking for 389 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.400 his eye and they just he brought that to the room, 390 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.079 just like yeah, sure, throw it in, do what you want. Yeah. 391 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.200 I didn't know what to expect. This is only this 392 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.640 is only the third Toby I've seen takes a chance 393 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:55.720 for the same podcast, so I knew I felt like 394 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.440 it was going to fit somewhere between that spectrum of 395 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:00.160 like a film that makes sense and a film that's 396 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.519 just grody as well, and it goes beyond Texas Chase. 397 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:06.720 I have not seen a lot, but I would say 398 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:08.839 see Life Force. Do Life Force next whenever you get 399 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:10.880 to that. Life Force is a crazy one and. 400 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.799 Texas Massacre too is good. 401 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:15.480