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Speaker 1: Well, good morning and hello, welcome to episode three hundred

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and twenty five of Hobby Hotline. Happy to be on

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bench clear this morning, as we are every Saturday morning.

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Adam from Splendid Sports and doctor James Beckett Sports card

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insights in his NFL season hat, always fashiona believe Yes seasonable,

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Doctor Beckett, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna wear a cowboy thing because they are no

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longer in the n Phil.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious, Adam, How you doing good?

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Speaker 3: Didn't they just sign Daniel Jones, Doctor Beckett.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna trade Dak for Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: I heard they're gonna get Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Speaking Peter's hope might be an improvement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this, Mad City Brew. Good morning, eighty

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days until spring training. There we go, Rubin doing the

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evening and the morning Flip. Good to see you, Trey Sombres,

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Good to see you, Stukes, Billy Joe, Good morning, al Ball,

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Good morning. We got everybody today. Morning guys, Doctor be

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in the house, vintas card collector, Mookie, Well, look at

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this lineup. Two out of three is not bad, Mooky.

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I'm just holding down the other the other box here

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and hello everyone. Peter, Thanks for joining us. Peter, So

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I'm a I'm a baseball fan. I want to start

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off with a little bit of baseball talk. We had

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all the awards announced recently. I don't think there are

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a ton of surprises, uh, but relevant to the hobby.

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First of all, are the MVP winners. So adam any surprises?

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Any thoughts on Judge in show?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I think it was pretty obvious.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone really knew who was going to win,

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right from each league.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was the two best players from each league.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they were in the World Series, which

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was cool. But yeah, it wasn't a surprise to.

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Speaker 1: Me, Doctor Beckett, No surprises at all.

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Speaker 2: What I might say, Oh, I'm totally shocked. Yeah, double

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anonymous winners. You know, one of the things I look

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at when I'm trying to figure out who the best

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players are in baseball or anything, but at baseball especially,

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I look at the top ten in the MVP because

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this year, anybody that had a really good season was

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smoked by Otani and Judge, if you came in second

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this year, that would have been first in a lot

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of years. And so I look at the top ten

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and try to see who the best players are and

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if they're the top ten and you, it's like it's

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like when Ripken was the All Star short stop every year,

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if you're the second best shortstop in the in the

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American League, you didn't you didn't make the All Star

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Games or at least the starting lineup. And so those

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other those guys were almost otherworldly, and.

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Speaker 1: Ripkin was deserve it every year. Let's be honest, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, but who the second best Guy's not Chop Liver

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now Derek Jeter after that, So and double points for

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the chop Liver reference Red Light thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Hello all, good morning, Rubin. I feel if Witt has

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much exposure that Judge, it would have been a closer vote. Adam,

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I love that point. If you put Judge in Kansas

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City and you put Wit in New York, does that

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change the voting or Judge's numbers just off the charts.

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Speaker 4: I think Judge still wins. But Bobby Witt in New York,

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that that would be something. Really I think that would

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I mean, that would make him on an level in

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the hobby if he was on the Yankees. But I

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think Judge, no matter what team he was on the

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season he had he deserved the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Becka, what do you think if they flip flopped?

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Speaker 2: Well, all I know is that not everybody rises to

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the occasion in New York. In New York, New York's

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a tough place to play. And so if Bobby Witt

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goes to New York, does he have the same stats, better, worse?

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I don't know, but there's there's a lot of players

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that have gone to New York and have been intimidated

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Bobby Witt. I think he's great where he is and

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uh to come in second and have a great, great season.

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Like I say, there ought to be awards for the

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silver medal and the bronze medal in these in these

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award content because he had a great season.

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Speaker 1: I think Mookie's speaking to that. Sorry, show Hey, I'll

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still take Francisco Lindor switching the shortstop great leader. I

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don't think he surpasses show Hey. But doctor Beckett's point

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from before h Francisco Lindor not chopped liver, and I'll

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go a step further. Mookie Betts would have been healthy

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all year. He absolutely is the type of player who

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would have been in the MVP conversation even if he

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doesn't want it all right. But what that leads to

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and the hobby relation is the MVP buy back program.

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I'm a big, big fan of the MVP buy back program.

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And let me get the numbers right here. The base

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card is twenty dollars in credit, A refractor is forty.

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Number to one hundred is one hundred. I mean number

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above one hundred is one hundred dollars in store credit,

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and under one hundred is two hundred dollars in store credit.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Beckett's Start with You LCS has seemed to be

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loving this. Is this a program that's kind of here

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to stay?

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't love it? It's a it's a it's one

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of the really good deals for opening opening wax. You know,

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you break something that's a product that you just got

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to be loving in it, And it wasn't. They weren't

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unexpected winners, so they weren't going to go cheap at

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any point. And this is a bonanza.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, That's where I was headed. Adam. You

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know how long ago would you have been buying Judge

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and Otani if you wanted to, you know, make money

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on the buy back. I mean, you could have bought

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them months ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think this this is the I'm gonna

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say a bold statement. I think this is the best

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idea in sports cards since Doctor Beckett made the price guy.

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Uh that I really I just love the concept of

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it because I actually think they should expand it. I

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think they should do things like, uh, you know, pick

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pick a player or whatever. You know, you you bring

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in ten of their base cards and you can upgrade that,

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upgrade that to a parallel or something like that, or

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you know, store credit's good. But you can get real

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creative with this idea. And it's bringing people out of

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their house to card shops, inter acting with and it's

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bringing traffic into card shops. So I just see so

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many benefits from it, and I think they should not

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just do it for MVPs.

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Speaker 3: I think they should expand.

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Speaker 2: It because it involves base cards. Yes, base cards are

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important in the hobby.

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Speaker 1: And they're now worth twenty dollars for an MVP. I

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can't remember. I mean, doctor Becka, when was the last

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time commons that were non rookies, you know, not your

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can grifth junior rookie cards. But base cards had this

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type of pricing well.

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Speaker 2: Back in nineteen fifty two. This young Mickey Mantle and

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young Willie Mays. Now it's unprecedented and it's so outrageous

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that it gets attention. Like I said, the card shops

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have to be loving this. Ye, it's win win because

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Tops is promoting it in a way that encourages more sales.

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It's just like I said, there's got to be if

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Mookie Bets is still going to be a fifty card

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of his base card and Lindor and Bobby Wit. You

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know when it's a whatever third or fourth year of

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some of these guys that those are not high demand comments.

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They're not comments, but they're they're star cards, but they're

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plentiful base cards. If there was a buy back on

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Bobby Wit for five bucks, everybody would be in line

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Lindor at two bucks.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this expanding to other awards at them?

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Speaker 3: I hope so.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think, like I said, I don't think

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it has to just be awards. I think they can

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create whatever they want gamify base cards because who doesn't

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like opening a pack and getting more things that you're

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excited about right now?

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Speaker 3: When you open a pack of cards.

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Speaker 4: A lot of kids they see the bass card I

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was when I was a kid, they were all base

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cards that I was opening. But now you know they

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see the bass cards as I didn't hit anything, but

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fanatics tops. They can gamify this where you know they're

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creating whether it's artificial or not, it really doesn't matter.

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They're creating demand, which I think if they do want

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to grow collectors and grow the hobby, it's a fantastic idea.

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So I hope they do it, not just awards, pick players,

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you know, pick whatever, Pick a team, you know in

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a local market. So if you're in Boston and you

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you bring in Red Sox based cards to a hobby shop,

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you can whatever, exchange that or they'll come up with

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ideas on what to do with it. But you know

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you're just creating activity, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're also creating oversupply, and so this is why

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this idea really should only be applied to a flagship

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type set. There's going to be running the presses so

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that everybody has a chance, and so you're not going

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to complain about overproduction because you're you're still looking for that.

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But if they applied this broadly to all products, it

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would increase production, not a good thing. We want a

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ten X, we want ax the number of collectors. We

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don't want a ten x the number of cards.

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Speaker 1: Right, how about the breakers who are now used to

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shipping commons. Now all of a sudden, every he's going

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to want all their base commons shift. I'm always good

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for an MVP conversation. So Mike Petty says that Shoeles

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stole forty useless bases when Ricky would have had two

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hundred with these rules injured when it mattered. MOOKI is right,

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Mookie Chilsen Lindor got them. There is good arguments for

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other people. I think that show. Hey, it's more than

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just the numbers. It's the market, it's getting to the

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playoffs for the first time. It's the obviously the stolen

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bases home run combo. It's just too many factors that

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I think converged all at once. Rex who if you

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Speaker 2: It's hard to steal two hundred bases. To steal two

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hundred bases, you got to get on base two hundred times. Yes, well,

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actually not. You could just get on first and steal second, third, home.

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But Ricky Henderson, you know, he hit a lot of

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leadoff home runs. But he had a lot of singles too,

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and he walked a lot. And so he's on first

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base and he would have a ninety percent success rate

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for getting from first to second and maybe even second

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to third. So I don't know that you make two

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hundred stolen bases, but he would, he could, he could

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break the record. Any any of those guys at the day,

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lou Brock, you know, you need to get on base

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and then it's just they'd have a field day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the things that blows me away,

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to be honest, that people don't talk about that a

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little bit more. And I wonder if one day we're

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going to look at, you know, there's all these different

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errors in baseball history, if the new rules era will

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be looked at and show his numbers, you know, maybe

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looked at differently thirty years from now, forty years from now.

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If people are stealing seventy bases every year, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Was worth a asterisk. I mean, it's a fun rule.

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Speaker 4: Well, similar in football with the NFL adding an extra game,

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you know that's good, like someone like Patrick Mahomes or

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some of these young quarterbacks now having that extra game

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every year is going to really compile over their career

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for all time yardage and all that stuff. So yeah,

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I just you know, it just game. The game changes

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Speaker 3: I guess you got to look at it in different lenses.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's it's moving toward more excitement because bigger numbers.

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when they raise the mound, you know, I guess that

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pleases the pitchers, but it upsets the hitters if they

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lower it. There's always an effect, and it's usually toward

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more off en. Yeah, in all the league, I think

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because Frank Robinson won the Triple Crown in sixty six

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with like a three sixteen batting average or something very

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low to lead the league. So you know, there's always adjustments.

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Talking about the buyback program, Ruben would like it to

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apply from eighty eight to ninety two. That'd be fantastic

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if we could go to previous MVPs and pull out

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four and if you still have his cards, you know,

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wouldn't that be a fascinating promotion talking about Ricky Henderson

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high on base percentage. Very true, and Mike Petty says,

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give him six inches a replaying two pickoff moves. Yeah,

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huge advantage in today's running game. Mooki says, no asteris

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after they lowered the mound. Good point, Larry, good morning,

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Good to see you. Rex who, by the way, thank

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you for your comments. If you guys don't know Rex

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Od's the sports card shop and so talking about the

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LCS is loving the buy back program. But he says

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that Bradshaw, Montana, Aikman, Marino Lway all played when you

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could actually hit quarterbacks and wide receivers. Brady did not,

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Adam was Brady? Uh, I want you to answer this one.

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Uh what do you think of Brady? Did he did

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he ask for too many calls? Was he a little whinye?

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Speaker 3: Well, you're asking the wrong guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm from New England, you know Tom Brady, so I'm biased,

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but I did Rex.

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Speaker 3: I do have to kick back.

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Speaker 4: Look at some of the highlights from Tom Brady's maybe

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the first half of his career, he took some huge hits.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the latter half of his career.

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Speaker 4: Obviously the league had changed, but he still played in

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you know, in the early two thousands. The league was

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rough back then, still so, but yeah, I understand. I

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think Brady's at a point now where like Michael Jordan

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was after he retired.

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Speaker 3: H but now everyone loves Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone will love Tom Brady after the dust

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't help but throw that one at you. Yeah, yeah,

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thank you for putting that in. Rex.

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Speaker 2: Uh. It's also correlated with the uproar about the you know,

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traumatic brain injuries and other kinds of concussions and things

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like that. So they're football is not as brutal as

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it was, and that's it's actually not to the advantage

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of all the quarterbacks that are mentioned there as much

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a it is to the new breed of quarterback, which

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is the the Lamar Jackson, highly you know, Josh Allen,

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highly mobile quarterback who's out there and if the old rules,

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they'd be getting their heads taken off. But they're sliding there.

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You know, they're they're being coddled in the pocket and

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and you you can't if they're running out of bounds,

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you better not even touch them. You just let them run.

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Speaker 1: Out of bound, which makes me wonder across different sports. Uh,

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the m v P buy back buy back program, Doctor Beckett,

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real quick, do you think that would boost other sports

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based sales at all? Or does it people are just

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going to cash in on what they're already buying.

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Speaker 2: Well if ken, we'll see, because Fanatics in a year

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or two is going to have the major license of basketball, football,

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and baseball, and they it might be something that they'll have,

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probably a flagship type set that they could do that.

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I think it'd be a good idea. I'd encourage them

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to do it now. Again, not across all brands, and

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I don't think Panini wants to be a copycat in

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their kind of lame duck situation, but tops that'd be

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great if the flagships had that. That would be a

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kind of a trademark or at almost a patented provision

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and benefited bonus in the flagship sets. That's it's MVP,

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you know, there's you know, MVP promotions have gone way back,

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there have been things like that, but this one is amazing.

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You know, twenty dollars for a base car is just

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that's not short printed, you know, it's that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And how many people are just turning those into a

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couple of packs of cards and leaving thrilled. You know,

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it's it's not like you said, down Payton on a

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fifty ten mantle, a reinvestor right back into I think

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new product typically and and good for the lcs, and

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and then it's money right back to fanatics. So I

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think it's a win win for everybody. Also, just want

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to point out, to wrap up the quarterback conversation, the

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money they make now makes it a lot easier to

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retire younger and not have to put themselves at risk

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longer in their career. Back in the day, guys a

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lot of times played longer to get the extra paychecks

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in in those final couple of years. Let me just

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wrap up some of the vintage conversation here on the

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Stolen Bases nineteen sixty nine, man was raised after all

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the great pitching seasons. Absolutely one is that a thirteen

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hundred ops I guess hitter in the ale and sixty

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eight gives well one three hitter, thank you, good thing.

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I'm not an editor. Give some Lora Drysdale's six straight

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shoutouts McLain thirty one win, Yeah, no, no out the

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rules today favored different different things than the old days. However,

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you know, you had a world series that had Gramm

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rule triples at the beginning of the century because they

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let fans stand on the field with their world So

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things have been different forever.

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Speaker 2: Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I think is in better shape than most of

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the people in the chat. I'll leave it at that.

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Chris Harris, good, good to see you, buddy. I'm sure

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if you rely on a rebate program, you're basically conceding

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the fact that the price of the wax is too high.

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There's a you know, that's a great point. You know,

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Adam will start with you on that one. Does that

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Does that imply that the wax is too high, that

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they're doing this, or is kind of a thank you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess prices are probably too high, but

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you know, people people are paying it, or breakers are

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paying I don't I don't really understand why it's so

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high so much. I mean, I guess it's because of

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the demands high. But yeah, I don't know. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's a great idea.

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Speaker 4: I just think think of the ramifications is all these

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things like I saw.

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Speaker 3: In the comment.

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Speaker 4: You know what about the ones that don't get turned in,

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they are they going to be in the future like

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chased after because there's not many still out there. And

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I was thinking, like, what's the what's the last iconic

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baseball card because of all the dilution and products, you know,

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and there's so many different variations that maybe it's twenty

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eleven mic trout based card or something like that, but

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this could even create like iconic based cards that people

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remember down the road.

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Speaker 3: Hey, remember when I traded that card in and got whatever,

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you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's just creating more memories and more activity,

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which I love.

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Speaker 1: I love your attitude. You're you're You're so wholesome. I

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want to picture Cheeck sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I think you. The dream of every card manufacturer is

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to produce and sell more product at higher prices that's

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good for their bottom line, and so this has done that,

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and it's it's you know, there's a there's a circular

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to it that it's also promoting the card shops, which

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I think is terrific. So they're loving this.

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Speaker 1: And to piggyback on that, rex, he says, expanding the

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buyback would have to make good economic sense for them

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to do football, basketball chrome Baseball wholesale prices were much

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higher this year than last, so that's an interesting combination.

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There rex always dropping the knowledge, Reuben says, with the

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buy back going back to the manufacturer, does that make

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cards that aren't turned in sought after card? I thought

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they had a deadline. I thought there was a deadline.

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So I think if you don't get it in by

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the deadline, then the cards go back to base cards.

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It's like the pumpkin. You turn into the pumpkin at midnight,

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and I think that's how it goes. Adam, if you

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were looking at next year's MVPs and you're buying bas

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cards coming out, who are you looking at?

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Speaker 4: Well, Bobby Witt, like we mentioned, maybe he makes another

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step up, you know, Bobby Witt. And then my favorite

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player is Mookie Betts. I love Mookie, you know, I

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wish the Red Sox never traded him. But if he

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stays healthy for a full year, to your point, I

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think he could give show Hey a run for his

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money with with the stats and everything.

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Speaker 3: So it's just funny they're on the same team. It's

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kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Becky, do you like the strategy of trying to

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buy the m vps early in the year.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure people are doing that. I mean basically, you

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could you'd make a market, or you'd be hedging, or

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you'd you'd buy a product. You're gonna get rid of

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anybody that has no chance, but you're gonna hold on.

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And you may even say maybe not bounties, but you

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may even put out buy offers.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Like you say, you're going through a dollar box and

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you see somebody that potentially could be the MVP may

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maybe in a quarterbox, you know, but I don't know

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they're going to be in there because people are There's

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enough really smart, savvy collectors that want to get ahead

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of the game. So if you if you, if you, uh,

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you know, you break your own box or a couple

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of boxes, you're going to be very careful about selling

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too soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, And in general I don't like breaking

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boxes looking for single cards. I'd rather look through the

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dollar box or buy a lot of comments from.

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Speaker 2: Your ten top guys, you know, ten guys like I said,

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the top ten from last year or up and comers.

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But you know a lot of these things. Sometimes there's

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somebody that just comes out of nowhere. So I'd be

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I'd be real careful about selling off if I had

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If I had it, you know, if I had it

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that those products that are eligible, I'd open them up,

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but I wouldn't be quick to sell base cards of

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guys that potentially could be the Hall of Famer listen at.

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Speaker 1: Premium, retsays it's not too high if the market demands it.

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Talking about pricing, shops have been sold out of Chrome,

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Hobby and Jumbos for months. There are only blasters left

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at this point, you know, said doctor Beckett's point before.

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These are for profit businesses. Don't confuse that with charity.

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And if they can sell out, then they're going to

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sell out. And if they can sell out at this price,

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next year we'll be even higher and they're gonna see

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if they can sell out at that price. And talking

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about the MVP buyback, the deadline is February, so you know,

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I guess you can, you know, offer what you want

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up to a certain point to make money until February.

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Rex says Chrome comes out pretty late in the season.

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I looked at a Tanian judge based on eBay when

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they first hit, and they were both going for fifteen

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plus shipping tough to make money on those. Well maybe

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that's the point of breaking your own and not buying

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them on eBay as a as a better way to

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get them.

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Speaker 2: Well, sorry, there's it's math. You know, you look at

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the Vegas odds throughout the season of Who's potentially be

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the Hall of Fame? You you can, you can, you

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can you know, work work it out. You know, if

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you got ten to one odds for somebody, you're gonna

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pay X. If it's five to one, you're gonna pay

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something else. If it's even odds, you're gonna pay something else.

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If it's even odds, you're probably gonna pay ten bucks

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or less to get the twenty.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, Maryland has legal sports wagering, and

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hypothetically that's one of my theories on dropping a dollar

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or two when a player is just watching the odds

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and seeing how they move and paying very little for

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somebody who could pay could have a good return.

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Speaker 2: I fanatis will be moving toward the greater integration of

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gambling with apparel and cards and memorabilia. That's they're gonna

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integrate that in a way that we don't. I can't

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foresee how it's gonna happen. But this is an example

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of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Philly Joe says, is there a max amount

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of shops will buy cards back for? So I don't

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know if.

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Speaker 2: That amount of cards. I think they have to take

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whatever you bring in.

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Speaker 1: That was my understanding, or is it a maximount they'll

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pay per card, which is standard negotiating on that pay. Yeah,

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there's no negotiating on that. All right, Well, that that

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went longer than I expected. But I love talking m

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vps and things that don't have answers always.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that I think, and we'll

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stick with cards for a second is uh Sada horror

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great Japanese player, all time home run king, uh worldwide

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home running I believe. I don't remember if bonds whether

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or not you count that beat him, but I think

472
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359
it's fantastic that they're bringing his cards and it's and

473
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,160
it's a long term contract. It's not a one on

474
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,200
one super fractor that nobody that he's going to start

475
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,960
having cards inserted uh into into regular products, Adam does

476
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,359
Does that make you want to go out and get

477
00:25:57,519 --> 00:25:58,640
his cards?

478
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,279
Speaker 2: Uh?

479
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: No, But I do want to mention my friend Dylan

480
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,039
double D vintage baseball cards. He John Mangini and a

481
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,319
dealer of Japanese cards. I forget his name, but they

482
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,720
recently did a video on Dylan's channel where they talked

483
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:18,240
about Japanese cards atahirow Oh they collect those cards, and

484
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:21,079
that made me want to collect some of these cards.

485
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,599
But yeah, I mean, I think it's great that TOPS

486
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,880
is like highlighting this now, but yeah, it's it's a

487
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,680
it's a big rabbit hole to go down, I guess,

488
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,359
so I'm trying to be careful. But watching that video

489
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,519
and learning so much about all these cards that had

490
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,920
no idea about made me want to collect them.

491
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,079
Speaker 1: Doctor Beckam, what do you think about the respect for

492
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,960
l Well, I.

493
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: Mean, there should be respect for him, and but just

494
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:51,559
like with American players, there's a greater appreciation for cards

495
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:54,960
when the guy was playing, that's one thing. So the

496
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,839
cards long after their career is another story. There'll still

497
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,240
be some demand for it. I'm troubled by the fact

498
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,440
that they're going to have a multi year agreement with

499
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,839
a guy. I mean that just means they can do

500
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,039
a bunch of them this year, and a bunch more

501
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,160
next year, and a bunch more of the year after

502
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,559
and a bunch more of the year after that as

503
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,279
long as they can. If they milk it, then anything

504
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:19,079
that came out the first year is going to be

505
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,880
selling like hotcakes. The second year. Oh yeah, here's some

506
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,079
more Sadahar autographs or special cards. And so I don't

507
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,680
I'm a purist if they flood the market, not flood

508
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,119
the market, but you know, if they print as many

509
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,279
as they can the first year, and then as many

510
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,119
as they can the second year, in the third year,

511
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,880
at some point there's some diminishing returns. Who for a

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,599
guy who's a legendary figure in international all time home

513
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,599
run king, I think he's got more in eight hundred.

514
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's all his non current cards, his memorabilia,

515
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480
his vintage cards. I think all of those go up

516
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,920
in price. I think it brings awareness for sure, and

517
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,200
to your point, doctor back in the people who don't

518
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,440
want the modern or don't want to chase those prices.

519
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,680
And you know, really it is, like Adam said, there's

520
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,039
people out there who have been collecting Japanese cards for

521
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:19,400
a long time and are experts, and and uh.

522
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 2: The way they're exports is that they some of the

523
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,039
Soada Harrow cards do not have his name on there

524
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,680
in English. Okay, So unless you can recognize his face

525
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,200
or he did have a kind of a famous uh

526
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:38,400
you know, swing kind of thing, or you can read

527
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:43,079
kanji or you know the characters, it's just a it's

528
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,960
just a Japanese card, and it's Robert Robert Clevens, that's right.

529
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,319
I've known him for a long time and he used

530
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,960
to he speaks Japanese. He's over there, he knows, he

531
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,599
went to the source, so he's got fabulous. In fact,

532
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,519
I got my type cards from him when I was

533
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:01,240
doing the books.

534
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: Interesting, how long, doctor Beckett, have Japanese cards been on

535
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,440
the radar to you? As kind of a niche? I'll

536
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240
admit when I was in the hobby thirty years ago,

537
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:19,559
I don't remember hearing people talk about international cards nearly

538
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:21,519
as much as I hear about it in the last

539
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:22,799
since the pandemic.

540
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:25,079
Speaker 2: Well, when I went to the I used to go

541
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:27,880
to the Hawaii show every year, and that's where you

542
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,519
would see them. There'd be some Japanese dealers and more

543
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,039
stuff there. And I was always trying to get again,

544
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,319
not complete sets, but type cards, and so I've got

545
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,119
and that was in the eighties. That was in the eighties,

546
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,839
so they've been out there. But in the eighties, maybe nineties,

547
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:47,440
two thousands. At some point, international cards were not disrespected.

548
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,359
A lot of the European, the British, the German, any

549
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,279
of that stuff was just not mainstream until recently. And

550
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,359
same thing with Japanese. It was just you know, yeah,

551
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,480
if you want to collect those, but that's not what

552
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,799
the serious collectors go after. And then all of a

553
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,480
sudden collectors woke up and said, hey, these these are

554
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:12,920
actually tougher and the and these players are iconic and

555
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,599
they're they're just because they played in Japan doesn't mean

556
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,559
they couldn't play in the major leagues. Because now you've

557
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:25,079
seen each row show, Hey Nomo, you've seen these different

558
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:30,240
Japanese players come over and be really good at pitching

559
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:35,319
and hitting or both. Uh, And so they get the respect,

560
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:38,200
they demand the respect, and it's and so that sends

561
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
people back to say, hey, let's let's take a second

562
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,519
look these these Japanese is not a minor league.

563
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,759
Speaker 1: Interesting perspective here, Midlife sports Card SAIDs and talking with

564
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Robert at the National, he says that the Japanese culture

565
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,680
doesn't value old stuff, so the new O cards may

566
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,799
have much more demand than japan Well that that's an

567
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:02,279
interesting perspective, even.

568
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Though Japanese and Asians in general and most cultures value

569
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,599
older people. Ye may older respect, but apparently maybe older

570
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,319
cards maybe not so much. But you know, Robert's probably right,

571
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,440
except that they're just not that many amount there, so

572
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,920
you could want them all you want. You could put

573
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,640
a bounty on some of these things, and it's just

574
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,640
they either don't exist or they're they're not for sale.

575
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,960
They're they're very tough.

576
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,279
Speaker 1: Adam, I was thinking a lot about soccer card and

577
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:34,960
stickers and the international you know how the international community

578
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,960
treats different products differently. Do you think that's something that

579
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:43,039
we're going to start seeing more people respect? Is the

580
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:47,000
other cultures collectible, you know, whether it's a sticker or different,

581
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,440
not our standard sized card, that's just different.

582
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:54,079
Speaker 4: Hopefully, Yeah, I think I think so over time, I've

583
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:55,680
been hearing that for a long time that you know,

584
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,839
soccer is the most popular sport in the world overall,

585
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
and it's only a matter of time before everyone wants

586
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,759
soccer cards. I guess it hasn't happened yet, but it

587
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,240
could at some point, and obviously, yeah, in other countries,

588
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,279
I guess. I mean, maybe there's just not as many

589
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,480
collectors outside of the US right now. I don't I

590
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,880
don't really know the reason, but it is interesting to

591
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,880
think about what if what if some of these other

592
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000
countries took on collecting like we do here and they

593
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,920
would you know, obviously some of these countries would their

594
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,720
favorite sports soccer, so that would be like their baseball cards,

595
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,119
so to speak. So it would be really interesting to

596
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,079
see that happen. And I'm sure Tops had that in

597
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,200
mind when they're putting this out. You know, this Otani's

598
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,799
from Japan, you know, and he's the MVP. So uh,

599
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:41,920
it's great timing, right, because I think things are very

600
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,440
popular there, so why not why not do it now

601
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,000
and see how it goes over with the people back

602
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,240
there and see how it goes as far as what

603
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,079
they want to collect. But I think that that probably

604
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,599
does make sense. They're going to really be attracted to

605
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,759
these new new cards.

606
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,039
Speaker 2: Probably three things.

607
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

608
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker 2: One is that back in the day, long time ago,

609
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,279
the stickers were intended to be stuck and you would

610
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:09,119
get like a starter pack, but you were allowed to

611
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,400
send in duplicates and get you know, like twenty players

612
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,400
back of quote unquote supposedly the stickers that you needed,

613
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,079
which I think people needed the better players, and so

614
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,359
the superstar orientation kind of gets messed up, so there

615
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,160
were perhaps more of those. Secondly, just the idea of

616
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,039
a sticker that's being stuck it could work to the

617
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,240
advantage of people that don't stick them, and that they

618
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,200
could be they could get high grades if you don't

619
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
mess with them, but so many of them are stuck.

620
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,359
That was what was encouraged that the unstuck ones ought

621
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,119
to have more value, but they're not really because they're

622
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,759
too small. Now Panini now has some sticker sets that

623
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,160
are two and a half by three and a half

624
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:57,240
and those sell way better, and there's parallels of the

625
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,880
stickers and things like that, and so I think that

626
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,680
that's where it's going now. I think they got away

627
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,599
with that because they still held the regular license, but

628
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:11,679
usually the sticker license is for a smaller sticker type

629
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,760
thing with an album, and it could be different than

630
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,679
the card license.

631
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: And Panemi for years is you know my understanding PSA

632
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,039
has expanded into Asia. I think that's a big sign

633
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,360
of what they think the future is and quite frankly,

634
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,840
to handle the physical cards. I don't know how many

635
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,599
times we've heard Chris Carlon talk on here in other

636
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,400
places that people really like to hand their cards in

637
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,480
and a lot of people have a hesitation with shipping.

638
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,639
So for them to open an office in Asia, I

639
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,760
think speaks to that market. Adam, like you were saying,

640
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,480
the collectibility growing internationally, that's a sign that's really picking up.

641
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,760
Shane says a multi year agreement on O cards will

642
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,840
have a much longer legs than most think. Well, there's

643
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,519
a little contradiction, but you know, maybe somebody like me

644
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,199
who would just love an O autograph, I don't mind

645
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,440
in four or five years if I can pick one up,

646
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:14,360
you know, more inexpensive as not an investment piece, just

647
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,199
an O autograph. I don't know how much hepe he's

648
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:18,960
signing like.

649
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: The Wemby effect. I mean, if Wemby goes on to

650
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,119
be an all time great, he started when he's twenty

651
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,320
signing a lot of autographs, a lot of autographs this year,

652
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,920
so five, you know, five years later, you know, I

653
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,280
guess if it's if it was with Michael Jordan or

654
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Lebron some kind of a combo would be interesting, but

655
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,719
just a plane Wemby autograph. You know, he's already one

656
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,000
of the most graded guys. He might be one of

657
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,320
the most autograph guys if we at the rate we're going.

658
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,719
Because people demand it, but they demand it in ways

659
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,920
that are not in the collector's best interest. It means

660
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,679
the price has to come down.

661
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: And we hit it right on the nose. Mike Petty

662
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,840
wants to know where the one'bye talk was today? We

663
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,239
got that.

664
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, I am so sorry.

665
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,159
Speaker 1: He says, thirty eight minutes in. We'll start timing. Yet,

666
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,719
this is a great topic I wanted to get into later.

667
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,239
Rex says, any truth to the story that three hundred

668
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,679
and fifty thousand in cards have gone missing from GameStop

669
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,480
PSA submissions, causing Game Stop to pause their grading services. Well,

670
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,199
I did see online that they've paused their grading services.

671
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,000
I did not.

672
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:32,519
Speaker 2: I don't.

673
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it's true if anybody in the chat knows that

674
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,519
it was because three hundred and fifty thousand dollars in

675
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,880
cards went missing. Adam, can you ever imagine Let me

676
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,840
make it a little bit more neutral, how do you

677
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,159
feel about dropping off cards at a game Stop to

678
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:47,719
get graded.

679
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,159
Speaker 3: I would never do that. Nothing against game Stop.

680
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: I just you know, when I don't submit too many

681
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,119
cards anymore, but when I used to, I used to

682
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,800
submit it myself, and I never understood the you know,

683
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,880
send it to this guy and he's gonna send it.

684
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,039
Speaker 3: I just it doesn't it's not that hard. Once you

685
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:04,840
look it up on.

686
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,559
Speaker 4: The website, you know, it's pretty easy to do. So

687
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,400
I always just preferred to send in my own cards.

688
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,599
But you know, I understand the idea behind it and

689
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,880
makes sense. But yeah, not for me.

690
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Danny. Yeah, it's there's a new day coming for game

691
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,199
Stop because they have a new board member. And when

692
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,480
the relationship with PSA was announced, we all thought, I

693
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,960
wonder how this is gonna work. I see lots of

694
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,800
potential problems, and I think there have been problems. But

695
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,079
it's Nat Turner to the rescue if he's on the board,

696
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,840
you know, I I I think they're gonna they're gonna

697
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,679
try to fix those problems. There are too many retail

698
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,280
uh uh stores out there of game Stop, too many

699
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,400
retail outlets for people to to to be convenient, and

700
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:58,000
but I'd be nervous about bringing I'd rather put it.

701
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,440
Let's put it this way, I'd rather put it in

702
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,360
the mail. Yeah, it's a game stop.

703
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's and I don't want to pick

704
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,559
on the people who work at game Stop. They are good, good,

705
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,239
hard working people, I'm sure, but I've tried to reserve

706
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,519
games for my kids and they haven't gotten that straight.

707
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,159
So the idea that I would drop off any value

708
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,599
of cards to those employees and trust that I would

709
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,280
ever see them again. You know.

710
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: The other problem, guys, is that this is where PSA

711
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,440
their strategy, which they've made work of charging more up charges.

712
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,360
When you have to declare the value, you're just telling

713
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,039
somebody this is a really good card, and it's I'm

714
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:45,960
paying extra to get this graded because I'm declaring the value.

715
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719
And if they were just putting in if somebody took

716
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,679
hairs my fifty cards center to PSA, the GameStop employee

717
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
is not going to know which one is the better card.

718
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,039
Probably unless they're really really in the hobby, they're not

719
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,440
going to necessarily look them all up. But as soon

720
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920
as it's listed there, you've got an inventory and you

721
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,360
find out, well, this one is the really expensive one.

722
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,920
It could go missing and that's I don't like that.

723
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,360
But like I said, I think that Turner is gonna

724
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:18,039
there's there's real potential. They're having more places, more touch

725
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,840
points that are more convenient for customer, and if he

726
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,679
makes that work, then he's going to look really smart,

727
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,320
which he is.

728
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Do either one of you ever see the idea of

729
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,320
a PSA store more, you know, I know they've got

730
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,840
some submission centers a couple, but an actual PSA store

731
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,800
that would be that you know, could theoretically sell cards

732
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,639
or accessories, but take submissions directly.

733
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,079
Speaker 2: It's not in their best interest. I mean they already

734
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,159
have that. They have bulk submitters, they have other they

735
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,599
have locations now in West Coast, East Coast, and Midwest,

736
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:54,119
or at least it's coming Japan, Germany or where they

737
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,960
have something going in London or Europe or somewhere or

738
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,519
that or that's in the works, so they're being smart

739
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:03,760
about it. I mean game Stop is a is a throwback. Yeah,

740
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,880
it's retro okay, but it still has lots of stores.

741
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,719
You know, forty years ago, thirty years ago, there were

742
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,599
twenty thousand card shops. You wouldn't need game Stop, but

743
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,280
now there's more game stops than there are card shops,

744
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,400
so it's if he can figure it out. But I

745
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,679
wouldn't want to be having a lot of cards. I mean,

746
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,880
if you were going to rob a store, would you

747
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:29,760
like to rob an LCS or Fort Knox, you know,

748
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:34,039
or the or the BSA store that's holding all these

749
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,199
great cards in process? So I don't I don't like

750
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,119
the idea, and I think I think Nat Turner's doubling

751
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,199
down with game Stop to say, hey, I'm gonna I'm

752
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,599
going to personally get involved and make sure they get

753
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:46,920
it right.

754
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes doubling down digs you out of a hole, and

755
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,360
sometimes it just makes the hole deeper. So we'll see

756
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,639
on this. But Peter says, what kind of well we're

757
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,719
all thinking. I know he's being sarcastic here. You mean

758
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,559
I can drop off my fifty two man on a

759
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,119
game stop and I'll be sent to p s A.

760
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,440
He'd be graded. See if folks got to run to

761
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,280
the mall. I think there. I think it's more for

762
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,760
a modern kids approach. But I agree with doctor Beckett.

763
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,760
I just don't see it ever being a solution. But

764
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:26,119
who knows what that'll come up with Adam when Fanatics boys, Beckett,

765
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,960
you'll be able to submit all your submissions that lids stores.

766
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,360
I don't know, what do you think of submitting it

767
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,800
at Fanatics stores versus game stop?

768
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's probably a little you feel a

769
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:41,239
little more comfortable, you know, rather than you know whatever,

770
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,480
a video game store. At least it's a Fanatics store,

771
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,639
so it probably gives a little more credibility.

772
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:49,159
Speaker 3: But why did Fanatics buy beck did? I did I

773
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,400
not hear about that? Breaking news?

774
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: All people making up some news.

775
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: I heard that Jeff Wilson wants to buy Beckett too.

776
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,199
I saw a video about that.

777
00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: Man. There's a lot of a lot of news out

778
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:00,000
there right now.

779
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: I am not I am not for sale.

780
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: I wish doctor Beckett would. I wish he would get

781
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,960
back in there.

782
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,199
Speaker 1: Everybody says, doctor, uh, far more. Deny that you are

783
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:14,199
going back to toe Beckett.

784
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: I can easily deny that, although I'll be over there

785
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,800
uh in a few weeks dropping off some more cards

786
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,800
for grading. But yeah, I love those guys, I mean

787
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,519
the guys that used to work for me. There's some

788
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,199
great people over there, but you know, they've got work

789
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,400
to do to get back to their former position.

790
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can talk to this now,

791
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,079
but can you talk about the Beckett marketplace just kind

792
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:42,079
of the percentage of the business versus grading versus uh

793
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,760
price guys do you have do you know what that

794
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,360
breakdown is? Cannot be shared.

795
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,559
Speaker 2: I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm sure great

796
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,559
is the number one thing interesting because the market doesn't

797
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,679
throw off I mean it's it's uh, it's I think

798
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,280
it has. I guess I could be critical. I think

799
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
it hasn't been marketed. I mean, they had a great

800
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,679
idea there, and but I don't want a sharpshoot of

801
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,320
what I would do different But I would have done

802
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,480
things differently. And there's some other things that they've just

803
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:12,400
again they've earned the right to do it the way

804
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,320
they want to do it. But I had a different

805
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,519
approach to things, and you know, now I got hindsight.

806
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,480
But but yeah, marketplace was a fabulous idea and it

807
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:25,079
hasn't caught on as well as it could. I mean,

808
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,519
com C is something that Beckett could have done, and

809
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,800
we had that same idea, but Tim Getch pulled it off,

810
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:36,079
and we were busy making money with price guides and grading,

811
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,440
and he said, here's an opportunity, jumped in and he's

812
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,159
done great. And he was the right man for the

813
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,760
job in the sense that he had the collecting sense

814
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,840
as well as the programming. He's a you know, super

815
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,719
He's a good guy and was sharp enough and cared

816
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,960
about the hobby and I think did it right.

817
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: Looking at the chat room, John Man, Jennie's as a

818
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,960
doctor Beckett, if you buy it back, I'll work for free.

819
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,840
So you have one free employee when you negotiate.

820
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: Uh, as long as I can work from home.

821
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm in one and a half. Doctor Beckett is just

822
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,920
turning into a telethon somehow.

823
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: The labor exactly.

824
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: All right, I've buried probably my favorite story of the week,

825
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,800
Jackie Robinson debut ticket going up for our auction at

826
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,800
r e A, only one of seven in the p

827
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,800
s A database. I think it's just a legendary part

828
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,559
of history. I think it's you know, the term holy

829
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:42,239
Grail gets thrown around, but you know, just just one

830
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,519
of those games where you know, not just baseball, but

831
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:50,440
America change Adam. You know, can you think of another

832
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,039
game that in baseball history that would be more important?

833
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,559
Speaker 3: No?

834
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: No, I think that's I think that's the one right there.

835
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,559
I mean, that's that's just awesome. And I like to

836
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,440
collect tickets too, you know. I know they're not as

837
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,960
popular as some other collectibles or whatever, but I think

838
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840
tickets are awesome just the you know, especially I had

839
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,639
ones that like games I went to and and uh

840
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,000
it's just fun, you know, fun collectible and then yeah,

841
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,760
that's I think that's the most important game right there.

842
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,559
Speaker 1: Doctor Beckett. Do you still have your ticket from the game.

843
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: It happened before I was born? Yeah, right, I I

844
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:28,480
agree with the Adam. I've got tickets from when I

845
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,800
was games I went to and and they weren't all

846
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,400
famous games, but some of them were you know, World

847
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,519
series or All Star games and things like that. But

848
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
I don't feel the need to slab them. I don't

849
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,320
think they're going to have exceptional resale value that that

850
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,800
particular one does because it's not contrived. Uh you didn't.

851
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:51,599
I suppose people should have known history was being made,

852
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:56,199
but but people and some people collect you know, held

853
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,639
on to their stubs in many cases. But uh, but

854
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,760
that's legit, fabulous collectible and I'm glad it's being slabbed

855
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:06,320
and uh, and I guess sold to the highest bidder.

856
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,199
It's it's about as good as it gets.

857
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: There was another one that was similar looking. I think

858
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,639
it was a two that sold a couple of years

859
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,320
ago for close to a half million dollars, So you

860
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,119
know the market shifted. I could see this easily hitting

861
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,800
your seven figures? Would you guys agree?

862
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: It's very possible?

863
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: Adam?

864
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: How much?

865
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: How much are you bidding?

866
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 3: I'll be, I'll be, I'll be watching.

867
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's an experiment. Would you rather have that or

868
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,000
the Otani ball that went for four plus million dollars?

869
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,800
It's up up in a tower in Type AI. I'd

870
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,519
rather have.

871
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,679
Speaker 1: This ticket step ten out of ten times, definitely.

872
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,079
Speaker 2: So does it go for four point four million? I

873
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:44,639
don't think so.

874
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: Well does that happen? Does the scarcity of seven versus

875
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,800
one make that much of a difference?

876
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Seven is the perfect number? Seven is lucky? Lucky?

877
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:03,559
Speaker 1: Well? It was, yeah, And somebody made a great point

878
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:07,440
on here. It's sad to see everything move to electronic tickets,

879
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,840
no more memory keepsakes. I will say that it's not

880
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,639
always worth it, but if you want to go to

881
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,400
the ticket office, a lot of times they will print

882
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719
a ticket for you if you're taking your kid to

883
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,519
their first game or something like that, where you where

884
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:26,159
it's a special memory. I think it's worth doing just

885
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:26,880
for that reason.

886
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,079
Speaker 2: However, However, when I go to the MAVs games on

887
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,960
my season tickets, and when I go through the turnstile

888
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:36,679
there and they check me in through my phone the

889
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:40,119
next morning, I've got an NFT in my account. Really

890
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,159
from that game.

891
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I wonder I've never heard of a team

892
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,920
doing that. I wonder if if that's a Mark Cuban special.

893
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,840
That's that's really cool. Actually, who knows if the NFT will.

894
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,079
I wonder if there's ever been a resale with value.

895
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: If so, good luck getting your money out right.

896
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah really, Larry says, I have a ton of printed tickets,

897
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,800
but now you have to say if the tickets on

898
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,239
your phone or in your or in your crypto account.

899
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:13,440
I just want to clean up here, foul Ball. If

900
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,880
anybody wants to seem will be at the Pasadena show today,

901
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,280
White Sox, Tom they're all closing all ticket agents at ballparks. Yes,

902
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:26,039
the the good old fashion. Who needs to? Who needs to?

903
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,519
I will miss that was that was a big part

904
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,880
of my childhood. Uh. The the links printed a seat

905
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,280
ticket for the w n B A Finals game. Very cool.

906
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:43,199
Love to see that and clean cheap shots. As local

907
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,000
alma mater will no longer provide a paper ticket starting

908
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:47,719
next year.

909
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,559
Speaker 2: That's it.

910
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:49,639
Speaker 1: That's a shame.

911
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

912
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: And I do just want to touch on the Jackie

913
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,960
Robinson uh ticket. This one was and I want to

914
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,360
put it back up here. Rip. It looks like it

915
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:05,039
was torn and it's hard to see horizontally and was

916
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:08,840
then repaired. That's why I got authentic altered and marked

917
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,159
as the stub for something like this on a game

918
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,400
like this, Adam, does that bother you at all? Or

919
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,880
is it just the ticket itself is cool enough?

920
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this wouldn't. That wouldn't bother me, you know, just

921
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,800
having the ticket itself, yeap. The altered thing is whatever.

922
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you really find out what kind of

923
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,159
collector you are when you say, you know what, I'm

924
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,280
going to pass on that and wait for a better one.

925
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

926
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's when you know your conditioned snob. And

927
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,440
for an item like that, just grab it and enjoy it.

928
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,719
It's a piece of history and it proves somebody went

929
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,280
to the game.

930
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: You know, well, in the ticket world, ticket stubs that

931
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,079
were in the building go for more money. People like

932
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,760
to know that the ticket itself was at the event,

933
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:57,920
so you know, you can surmise, you know, it's hard

934
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,800
to tell that that ticket was at the event. Mad

935
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,960
City Burg. Very funny. Maybe the NFT is a discount

936
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,719
first submission with game stock. There you go, doctor Beckett.

937
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,159
You can go to a game and get your discount

938
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:15,599
for game stop submissions. All right, guys, I always like

939
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,519
to know what's what's your hobby weekend?

940
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Look like, Adam, Not too much. I just I just

941
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,880
had a cool pickup I wanted to show. Actually I

942
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,840
got a big.

943
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,079
Speaker 4: Fan of the ninety two Dream dream Team and Paninium

944
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,760
made some cool stuff and like this was twenty eleven.

945
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,000
This is a game used Larry Bird, Chris Mullen, and

946
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David Robinson from the Dream ninety two Dream Team materials

947
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right there. So shout out to Panini for making some

948
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really cool stuff that I don't think a lot of

949
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,840
people know about these type of things. So yeah, right

950
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,719
around this time period, they've made a few sets. So

951
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,119
this was one of my favorite pickups here recently.

952
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Well, why do you have your own.

953
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, these are from Zion Cases makes these mag

954
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,719
pros and.

955
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,039
Speaker 3: These type of cards.

956
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:00,519
Speaker 4: Kind of what you're saying. I don't need the great them,

957
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,360
so I just put on my own slabs and put

958
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,679
my own spend its boots on there, so self slab.

959
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: So it's an eleven.

960
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: It's exactly gem in.

961
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: They're all gemman when you're when you're growing them yourselves, right, Uh,

962
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:16,000
doctor Beckett? Are you still selling off the collections?

963
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: Slow?

964
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: One percent at a time?

965
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:18,639
Speaker 2: One percent a month?

966
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,599
Speaker 1: How's it going?

967
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: Actually a little higher than one percent last month?

968
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:22,639
Speaker 1: On purpose?

969
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,119
Speaker 2: On purpose? Yeah? Yeah, speed it up? Do you have

970
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:31,079
a do you have a deadline like a hundred months?

971
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:31,719
What do you say?

972
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: And Danny that well that I'm wondering, you know how

973
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,039
long at one percent?

974
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: Uh, the fifty is a good good goal because if

975
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,719
I can whittle it by half in then in four

976
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,639
or five years, that's that's really good. And I'm on

977
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:49,079
on real good pace for that. So I'll have more

978
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,159
time with less cards. I'll be able to because right

979
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:54,159
now I'm still going through stuff that I haven't I

980
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:56,840
don't have time for. People say what are you picking up? Well,

981
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,639
I don't have time to pick up very much stuff

982
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,719
when I can't even have time to take care of

983
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,000
what I have. So and I'm making and it's it's fun.

984
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:04,599
It's fun.

985
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: You can let them know that you're investing in MVPs

986
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,000
for the buyback program next year.

987
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: I would I would be willing to trade. Yeah, I

988
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:15,239
want to. You know, unfortunately, Danny and Adam, nobody really

989
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,159
wants to trade quantity for quality. I'd love to take

990
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,079
quantity for quality. I can't find people generally that want

991
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:23,559
to do that.

992
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,679
Speaker 1: I've got three kids. Tell me about it.

993
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,639
Speaker 2: You want to trade them in for one superstar, just.

994
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:36,079
Speaker 1: One college tuition? You know, nothing wrong with that. I

995
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,760
love my kids, Tony. If you're watching all right, guys,

996
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,119
thank you. This was a fantastic show. Uh. I appreciate

997
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,599
us seeing you guys. It's been it's been a little

998
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:49,280
bit since I've seen each of you. Adam, be well,

999
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,280
Doctor Beckett, be well, and happy holidays. If I if

1000
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,400
I don't see you for Thanksgiving in the end of the.

1001
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,199
Speaker 2: Year, lots to be thankful for.

1002
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and to everybody in chat room. Great chat

1003
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,440
room is always, uh simply just one of the best

1004
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out there. Take care