Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to trast told you.
I'm your host of Clown. It's a podcast, Travis Snow
And yes, it's been a mighty fine minute. God, I
have to look up. Let me pull up the geek first.
I don't know annals of history and final last trast
told you. As I've said before, my goal was before
it was every bye week, and then it was you know,
every month. I don't know last time. If that's gone,
if that's happened, trust tollly, let's see if I can
find the last one that happened. But March, so that
can't be it, right, has it really been marched? Then?
I apologize, but I am back here to talking to
each and every one of you. You can tune into
the nine year anniversary cast, which we'll be going on
Patreon soon early and then it drops next week on
the main feats. But I just talk about how it's
just been a hectic, busy time as of late, trying
to get all this stuff in together. And I guess
kind of in a way, let's see, it looks like
it's about April. Yeah, April, my goodness, So May June July,
three months ye, So I would like to say, hey,
it's not gonna be that long, you know, in the future,
but I really don't know. But what I would like
to do is not keep it to that route, because
in the next little bit, I'm talking about two things.
Today I'm talking about my little sabbatical, I'm and be taken,
and then we talking about Star Wars and Act Lite
and everything like that. So if you don't want to
hear my little spield, maybe skip ahead five to six
minutes about what's going on with my life and everything
like that. I had a few other topics I guess
I should. I'll quickly touch upon the Marvel bou de
Mao thing. Maybe two. I don't know. I was gonna
do a whole summer, because you guys, don't I like
box Office. I was gonna look at the whole summer,
the winners and losers. But maybe we'll wait one or
two more weeks once and I'll try to do another
trest told you I will try to do that because
soon I will be taking sabbatical. And first of all,
everything you need to know is down below the links,
the video of the audio. The best way of supports
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You could get our seven year anniversary one or sorry,
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If you're already in Patron, probably not many changes to you,
but there is gonna be some things. We're gonna be
changing with some of the content that's gonna be on
the main feed versus retrospective or versus therego, there's the
old tease versus what's on Patreon, just to switch up
because you know, we have to make some changes here
and there. We are independent of content creators, so we
kind of go, Okay, what works, what doesn't? What are
people listen to? What are they not? So we will
up date you that on in the future. On in
the future, who knows. Yeah, I just did the three
hour cast of The Boys, but I was gonna go
to bed. I was like, I don't know, I'll have
time because I talk about then how busy I am.
But oh, excuse me. So I've said this a few times.
If you listen to the originals, which I talked about
a couple months ago. That's on our Phase three tier.
Some things will be changing there as well. But I
got to reveal this to the boys that yes, I'm
going to be taking a sabbatical. I'll break from Geekers
for the first time ever in my life. Really, I've
taken some breaks here and there a couple of weeks,
but really it's never been that much. But I am
going to be doing it this throughout because myself and
my gorgeous, lovely, smart, beautiful, talented, you know everything you
can name. Because I'm very lucky to have her because
half the things I'd say, over half the things I
would not be able to do and also have the
life as far as having my children having someone at
home with me. Some other partners might not be as
understanding when they got a guy that's has a job
doing the podcast, a second job making independent films where
we're not getting anything a dime, just hoping to build
up everything like that. A big credit to her about
her and myself more particularly her, we are pregnant with
a child, not per se, we are pregnant with two children,
two childs. So that is why I'm gonna be gone
for a little bit. The due date is December, like
seventh or something like that, but with twins, they always
expect it to be earlier. So it's definitely gonna be
probably the last week in November. And we have had
children before. That's when I've taken my breaks. But that's
what's been like a couple of weeks. We get situated
to it. One child very easy, No, I won't say
very easy. Once you've done it, you can be accustomed
to it, right you kind of you know, have some tricks,
you know, the rigamar role, you know what you have
to do. Obviously, some wrinkles get added in when you
have multiple children, but you figure that out, right, and
maybe that's gonna be the case, and it will be
the case once we have twins, and we'll figure that out.
But that is a massive change for us. That's something
that it's a massive change for Emily because it's not
as easy as hey, you know, yeah, I'll lay down
the little one. You go podcast, you know, you go
do that thing, you go make that movie. Now it's like,
oh late, a little one. Oh, but that one's also
crying as well. I don't know what to expect with it.
Who knows, Maybe we got angels to just go to
sleep together and yet da da da. But especially for
the first little bit, it's probably gonna be a little challenging.
So what we're gonna be doing is or at least
I'm going to be doing is I was planning. It's
either it depends. It's gonna be extra life. But I
think his Penguin is going out and you know, the
resident Batman guy. I think the Penguin finale will probably
be my last episode for a little bit. And I'm
not even gonna do Trest told you just because that
one's also I could record on my own and not
have to worry about getting the way of Dylan or
Kirkland Tata's schedule. It's just to take an official break
because what I've talked about, just coming up with a
nine year I don't have much free time. And I
love what I do. I love doing this, I love
when I do the film stuff. But because that's another
thing that we've added on that I do. I love
that I've talked about this before. I've been trying to
get my just physical health up, so doing the gym,
a lot more physical activities and stuff. But the days
where I sit in front of a TV and be like,
I got nothing to do. I'm gonna watch this movie,
I'm gonna play this video game. I'm just gonna do nothing.
Are very rare. There's like ten percent of my life.
And as I've said before, it's not me complaining because
I love doing the podcast, love going to the gym,
love doing the filling stuff. Luckily, all these things I
filled my time with are things I love. But there
are other things even like sending down reading a comic book.
And to clarify the other stuff I do with my family.
That's what takes up a lot of the time as well.
It's not like I'm doing this podcast and I can't
see my family. No, I sell podcasts when the kids
go to bed most of the time and everything. So
the rest of life is filled with that. And that's
stuff that I all love, but it because could be
a bit more tired, could be a bit more needed.
This is the time and I just thought, you know what,
I'm going to take just a full kind of cold
turkey break for a little bit, because I've never done that.
Has been times. We're luckily I've enjoyed it. But as
we talked about, we're coming up to another one when
we get the those three runs of like House of Dragon,
Acolyte and the Boys, and that's like, well we got
news and we also got retros and all this stuff. Luckily,
we're making some changes to content the schedule overall next year,
where none of them bad, just I think some things
will be a bit more limited in things we choose,
like a retrospective, right, we might not do as many
and those might change of how you can get them.
So there are some changes coming which we'll talk about.
But for me, it's still like it can be a lot,
and there's times where it's just like, oh man, I
do just need like a to do nothing. Because as
much as you know same in the filming it's great
and I love doing it, that's still a thing I
gotta work at right for me in the gym now,
it's like I gotta wake up at five thirty am
or five five am every day to be at the
gym for five thirty And that's another thing. It's like,
can be a little tough. So I'm gonna take a
little break because one just been just run to the
wheel and ride into the wheels off, running, wheels fall off,
whatever the expression is and also just with the twins,
that is a big change up. And then who knows,
maybe when I get back in the future, it'll be
a bit more. Tress told you is because I can
sneak away and do those versus I might not be
able to make every newscasts or or whatnot. I don't know.
This is my first I even asked Emily a couple
of nights, and I'm like, how are we gonna do,
like put our first three kids a bed and then
we have these two, and oh well, I'm not worried
about it, but it's like it's part of me that
I am, you know, It's it is a lot to juggle.
So luckily, right now we have Emily is all healthy.
The twins are as healthy. They call them Die Die twins,
which I think is not a great name for what
should be healthy kids. But they are the healthiest twins
you can get. We always said we're gonna because that's funny.
I always grew up with one of like six kids.
But then you know, once we men had kids, it
was okay, we are going to have three to four,
and we decide on four. But we decided, hey, we're
gonna have four, maybe a little bit, because all our
kids are two years apart, and we are just lucky
that way that our bodies worked out pretty much whoever
want a kid like, that's how we've been happened like
they're two years and a month apart, because our bodies
just worked that way and pretty good successful rate of
not having kids when we don't, you know, not necessarily
want them, but are planning for them. Not this go around,
you know, this go around too. We always joked that
just like literally happened of Oh, if we ever have
a fourth, which you know we plann to, we're gonna
have lair. But just whatever, if we have a fourth,
it's probably gonna be twins, just because you said this
is gonna be the last one you know, and lo
and behold it is. It is twins. Uh, it is
an exciting time. I'm very happy that you know she
is healthy. And then so for the twins. Art don't
know sex. This is the first time I won't know
the sex each and every time I've always been impatient.
I've found out and then Emily hasn't known. And I
don't tell anybody, never told a soul, but I keep
it to myself. But I always said, oh, for the
last one, I won't find out. I'll keep that surprise.
Once I knew it was twins, I did want to
find out, just to have some sort of headspace, but
I'm not. So it's going to be a surprise when
we get there and really don't know right now they are.
There's a thirty percent chance they could be Oh gosh,
what is it identical, which Emily does not want. We've
looked into you know, paint toenails and stuff like that
to make sure you don't lose track of which ones which.
But yeah, so that's what's happening. So yeah, I'm gonna
take another reason too. I can take the break is
because well, the biggest reason is luckily there's a time
maybe now that I wouldn't thought that, but I think, oh, man,
do I need to be there? Need to be there?
Not exactly because I need to be there, as far
as wanting to, I guess that's it wanting or feeling like,
oh I need to be there to cover this. That sure,
there's a part of me that wants to do that,
but at the same time needing no, because I after
now doing this for nine years, as we talked about
fully Confident, Dylan Taylor Kirkland, any guests they have on
to like hold down the fort while I'm gone. Maybe
a time where I felt like, hey, I can only
do this, or I need to be a part of this,
or I really want to do this and I don't
want to miss that. It's like it's been enough time
where they can hold it down in newscasts and reviews,
and it's also a good time because there's you know,
it'll be quieter in January and the beginning of February,
and that's the plan to be back for the beginning
of February. Don't know for sure. If things if I
feel like, hey, I don't want to be going to
do a podcast late at night right now and leave
me Emily alone, then that's the way it's going to be.
I don't know. It's a whole it's a whole new
ball game. When I thought, okay, when we first just like, oh,
we're pregnant. Unfortunately Emily got tickets stair Swift couldn't go
to those, so it's like that's super unfortunate want her
to go, But okay, it's one we've been here before.
We'll do it. And that'll be the last one. Other plans.
So yeah, that's what's going on with me. Luckily, nothing
bad so far. Just gonna take a break and going
to focus very much on the family because I'm sure
the other girls will need me to a bit more,
need Emily a bit more. Enough to watch the twins
because there'll be a lot of things going on with
two kiddos. And yeah, so sometimes maybe Extra Life, maybe Penguin.
That will probably be my last episode. Maybe I'll pre record,
like a trest told you, it's like a goodbye for
a little bit, and then I'll be gone at least
for about three months and that'll be the thing and
see how it goes, and I'll report back. And I'm
probably gonna go dark dark. I'll be in the discord.
I'll be I'll be around there. I love that community
of people. But like Twitter, any social media on here,
you won't really hear from me. I'm gonna take a
I try to do that already because Twitter sometimes gonna
be bad enough. But I'm going to take a just
I've already taken a big break as far as I
scour it, but only during a lunch break or like
today when I'm waiting on a phone call somebody and go,
actually I need to call you tomorrowing maastards like I'm
just sitting here way but yes, that's what's going on.
Twins this November. We got five kids. We got five kids.
This will be the last. These will be the last
ones I have my I don't have a schedule technically
appoint an appointment schedule, but I will begetting the step.
There will be no six one. As much as I
wanted that as a young and you know, there still
needs to become a financial thing to it. And luckily
we're in the best positions of our life as far
as she's happy in her job. He has a good job.
I'm happing my job, have good job. And there's other
things in the pod and everything, and that's where a
big thing just I do some nine year but before
we get nact like a thank you to everyone that
has listened to this. I know I've not been consistent
with this year. Obviously, I've been doing the gimmick as well.
So that's kind of been an extension of trust told
you because I used to do a lot of wrestling trastals, right,
so that's a bonus one David, I I will talk
to you guys. David kind of knew because he's in
the Gchad and stuff like that. But yeah, it might
be a couple of gimmicks without me. But same thing.
I trust those guys because I remember Dylan asked me
for the first episode how it went, and I was
very surprised because we are in the wrestling discord together
and did one watch along. But like David and Aspobs
come from different parts of my life. Like David, I
met through Brent and then he's been on Alliance and
as Bubbs met through the podcast and he's after nine.
But I was like the guys somehow gelled together very
well for you know, being on air for a couple hours,
which I was very surprised because I thought, Okay, we
get start doing the gimmick and it could be super awkward.
I'm gonna have to hold it down. Let's see how
it goes. So thank you. Anyone likes resting us watch that.
So there might be a couple episodes. Probably maybe I'll
try and get back for Rumble Time, but we'll see.
But yeah, that is the plan right now. And again,
just a big thank you to everyone that's listened. I
will try to. Actually I don't know. Travis told you
you'll get it when you get it. Like I said,
these next few months may I'll try and do them
because I could be gone for a little bit and
I guess I want to get back. That might be
the easier method again to do that. But I think
everyone that did has listened to this because funny enough,
when I started the show, it was in my first
time when we had or not first time, when we
had Ellie, and that's when I had five weeks the
first time. Can I got to take the five weeks off,
which I will get at least five to six weeks
off this time, and just get to hang out with
the family, relax as much as I can and do that.
But uh, yeah, I started the show.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: Funny it is like the first week was like the
Backgirl cancelation. And it's always done consistently good numbers. I
haven't looked at the last few, but as far as
when I was doing stats recently, they always still do well.
For even me not really taking too much attention to
the show. It's not because we don't want to put
on an episode. It's not because I've wanting to be like, hey,
you know, I'll get to and I get to it
as far as I don't care what people if if
you know, if you miss the TRAST told you whatever. No,
it's just that when we get so busy and what
can I cut, Well, that's gonna be the thing I
have to cut, because you know it's me where I
can't cut a show with the features other people, right
or I want to be on the show with other people.
Because I love TRAST totally. I love the solo cast.
At the same time, Key First was built on the
back of us being friends and our friendship, and that's
why I still do this because I do like doing
solo casts. I like coming to rant every once in
a while, but by the end they I enjoy the
cast with people more like talk to with a nine years.
That's why I like the gimmick because I liked talk
and wrestle alone, but like I've had way more fun
talking with wrestling with I suppose and David. So that's
what podcasting is still about. I'm again very appreciative for
people on Patreon people listen because there's things like today
when my kids are sick and I can take a
day off of work and then I don't have sick days,
and some of that has covered because we do also
make finance for the podcast and Patreon, and I appreciate that.
You know that that takes a lot of weight off
my shoulders. So everyone that has listened to Tres told
you I definitely at least will do one episode before
I go. My plans do more, but I always do one.
I very very much thank you for that, because you
never know. I tried it out, had good numbers, consistent
numbers up there with other things. I think there's a
couple of months, where's the biggest episode of the month.
I very much appreciate that, you know, because I feel
like lots of times, if we get a native view
that's dedicated to one person, it's probably myself because I'd
be a bit opinionated, which we'll talk about with Acolyte.
But I appreciate people that have listened to this, and
I thank you very much much. It's not taken lightly.
The show will return at some point, I hope, and
it's full glory. Sometimes I get back to the Bye weekly,
and maybe that is in twenty twenty five. I don't
know what's gonna happen, but I thank you very much
forgiving this. I said myself. The show all gonna go
in a bit sabbatic a little bit, but still got
a couple more months. And the other good thing is
too for especially the patrons, There'll be lots of pre
recorded episodes of retros that you will get that I
will be on, so my ghost will still be around,
just like current thoughts on movies and you know, I'm man.
I'm missing Lord of the Rings one. That's one that
I'm bummed about, which is fine because I'm not more
bummed than you know being with the Twins, but really
want to see that one. But again that's probably I'll
do too is when I'm back, I'll do a trast
told you of, like a catchup my thoughts on everything.
And please excuse me, support, you know, for some reason,
if you just listen for me, support the guys while
I'm gone, because just listening to my stuff or leaving
while I'm gone doesn't help the channel, doesn't help me
and geekers or anything like that. I like to come
back and be like, hey, Fort's hold down by both
the listeners and the hosts. And I know you guys
will do that, and I very much appreciate. So that's everything. Twins,
five kids, Let's see how that goes. But no, luckily,
my three kids are pretty amazing and pretty easy versus
when I hear a lot of other people talk about
kids or them being siblings, Like my kids obviously can
have bad days, but bad days are pretty good compared
to some other ones. Right, So I'm I'm very happy
and we'll see what we get. Well, they're very excited,
and we'll see what happens with twins, and that's gonna
be something just completely new, so at least the last time,
it's gonna be something different. So you know what's different.
There's your transition Acolyte canceled gone at here. So this
is I'm definitely on the newscasts, probably gonna ask them
of Taylor's thoughts, but he gave some of those on
the nine near coming up, so we probably won't. Like
I said, this kind of cast change all over. I
meant to do this last week, so sorry for bad people,
and I went to this yesterday again, it's just been delayed.
It's been busy life right now right, I'm also the
process of moving, so lots of just fucking things in
the iron We're filming as much as we can because
of my time off, so lots of stuff. But this
came out obviously. If you want, you can go back
and listen to our act Lite reviews. But most importantly,
in the finale, I said, I don't I can't remember
what percentage, but I said, I just don't see this continue.
At least that's what I thought, you mad. I thought
that was the vibe that I had. I thought, because
I dropped a trest totally the discord, i'd have to
listen back. But I thought maybe you could get like
a season two at most and it'd be done. But
it is done, and man, has it created a shit show?
Because these are the times where I go on Twitter,
right where I go, Okay, big thing happened. Want to
hear people's opinion. Let's go not so much to just
scrolling just to see what's going on. It's, you know,
what's everyone thing and what's the opinion on stuff? Like
once we pop up and I can't follow that person
because the thing they said just sound kind of sexist,
and I go, I already didn't really like you. It
was one of those follows where they followed me and
they just kind of annoy me. But you know, it's
a friend of a friend. Sure, And then I see this,
I'm like, you know what, I don't have any place
for this, so I'm not gonna do this. And that's
where it's been a tough thing, right because who knows
what the general audience feels. But in our online sphere
we talk about acte et cetera. This review has been
met with a lot of reaction. You know, good, bad,
and ugly, very ugly. At times. I won't say good,
but I'll say good as far as meaning. Here here's
some analysis of why I think it was canceled. Not good, like, yeah,
I got canceled because of course I did not enjoy
the show overall. There were some things, some moments, some characters,
some aspects I did enjoy, but overall I thought they
really drop the ball on multiple aspects of the show.
And you can go back to pretty much the finale
is probably the best way to listen to it. But man,
they had something very exciting in the Acolyte and much
like Boba Fetwaiz said, hey, it's kind of like The Godfather,
and it wasn't you have this where it's like it's
gonna be a story about the sith Eh kind of
was looks like the story they pitched in twenty twenty
was a story with my Gone season two, but that's
no longer happening, and I think that's a big thing
to do with you know, some fans kind of feeling
like the rugsmen pulled from from under them. So if
you all you don't like the show, you must be happy.
Not exactly because it's people's jobs, it's people's livelihoods. I
also want people that enjoyed the short to get more
of it because I've been then there. You know, we'll
get into this. My example, my second favorite show of
all time, you know, was canceled. Didn't see its full
end really, so I get I don't really want that
just because I'd enjoy it, not that I'm cheering for
it to you know, fall down in a blaze of
glory or whatnot. But at the same time, there's been
hyperbolic respond This is all over the place, And for
me this is not surprising because it's very tough. Right
because the show started and it got attacked a lot
by the people that just hate man to hate Star
Wars no matter what you know, go woke, go get broke.
Crowd yet they hate there's a female lead, hate there's
a lead of color, whatever it may be, this is
not my star wars, et cetera. And I felt like
we ever got too many people bad, but even myself,
like with episode three or episode four camera in the
flashback one where it's like I thought pretty hard for
a lot of those storylines and say, no, this is
this can happen? Why of X, Y and Z or
they set this up here? And if your issue with
it is because it's you know, women doing this or
them being woke, then it's like there might be more
of a bigger issue with you. I've been there. I
was defending it that way, and none of my issues
with the show were all it went woke. No, you
can go back and listen. It was all writing. And
for me, it's tough because you got the hyperball, really
bad people that suck, the people that are all over
mandolins Sten birthdays, you say your name Instagram celebrating this
cancelation being assholes. Those are people that I really wonder
what their life is like. And I just think it
has to be pretty sad to just go I got it.
Like even again, I've said this before in all my
times in twenty sixty when I hate it Jared Lell's joker,
which you know, I can't say I enjoy it now,
but I never once linked the guy and go tweet
them be you suck or this sucks or I'm glad
who says what you got? You weren't birds of Preada.
It's a it's an odd thing that people I just
feel like there's something missing in their life and that
stuff sucks, and the stuff that you know stars and
say anything about that that does suck because they said
stuff almost an endingram that OBI won you know you
and post video and try to shut that down. Nothing
here right. Then the other side is, well, you let
the racists, the sexist, the fascist, whatever is you want
to put out there. You let them win because we cancel,
you canceled the show, and they to take a victory lap.
I get it right, because in a sense, yes, they
want the show to be canceled, canceled, they win. I
don't know. And this is where for a while people
brought up and I agree with us, why we haven't
heard cancelation from other shows, So why would you put
this out there that is filled to fire. But at
the same time, this is still not Disney putting this
out there. This is sources. And the reason I think
this is getting out there and why it's more talked about,
is one, it's a buzz about show good and bad.
So they know if they put this out there, and
I mean buzz in the online chatter, not in the viewership,
we're gonna get there. I still fucking look at my camera.
That doesn't work anymore. I don't look at this one,
So that would get chatter. And two other shows that
even though we would be like, oh yeah, there could
be a season two, but we don't rush anything, or
that's something we haven't talked about, like they've all been
very vague answers, right, But with this, Leslie Headlind had
multiple times very stressed about plans for season two and
continuing on and stuff, right, So that could be another
reason there was more of a sense that this is
gonna get a follow up, So something should be out there,
whether Disney put it out there to sources like Hollywood
Report and Deadline or they were just found out. Either way,
Disney's not confirmed this yet, right, So that's what makes
it tough. But when people say, well you let them win, Well,
the problem is it's in the same thing of like, well,
now we're never gonna get like, you know, anything past
the Skywalker stuff, which I hope that's not the case.
I hope Disney is not that reactionary or Luca's film.
But the thing is, at the same time, I don't
that to me is the worst type of fan where
it's like, well, because this was something I was asking
for and even though in my opinion, is poorly written
or bad, I'm gonna love it no matter what, or
defend no matter what, or fight it no matter what.
That to me, you kind of lose all credibility the
same way. Not the same way as like the bad
Stars fans, because it's like they've lost credibility, but they're
on a high lower level, so I don't want to
compare you to that, but in that way where it's like,
just because I love Star Wars, I have to love everything. No,
that's not what I'm here to do. So that's the
thing where all the people I know personally, not time
about Twitter people I've never met personally, and not Twitter
I mean when I mean Twitter people just like people
you would follow people in Juwa, I know them, talk
to them, been friends of the years. You know people
like a Day from film Junkie. There's a difference between
Twitter people and people that you've been on Twitter but
have become your friend. Right As far as the people
that I know that were like me that didn't like
the show or put at the bottom, I don't personally
know anyone that is a racist or a sexist that
didn't like the show. I know genuine people that are
good people that support these causes, that go, hey, this
show didn't work for me. The same way I feel
I would be right, I don't you know. I try
my best to fight for people. I try my best
to stand up and at the same time, that's why
I did not want I hate that the conversation is
like this because I would want to be negative about
the show, but then you don't want to get lumped
in with that group of people, right, So it's tough.
The same way as with review bombs, I would say
people are like, oh, well look at the look at
the score. Real bad. I go, well, people are a
review bombing, so you don't know what is actually a
real score of people going, hey, I watch this and
I didn't quite like it, versus this is a stupid
Star Wars sucks now fire, Kathleen Kennedy, you don't know
the difference the same way with me now. Luckily you
just have to listen and know, like I said, how
I talk about these shows and what I do and
what I believe in. For me, this show on a
quality basis was a massive step down from other Star
Wars stuff that's not already not that great. He did
not warrant it on a quality section and also just
didn't warrant on a pure budget section because the report
that came out just gonna take a little drink here.
A report that came out was that after episode two
and I can't remember what it was how many episodes,
but I was eight, I think whatever it is, after
episode two they fell out of the top ten for
streaming of the week right whenever an episode come out,
and then for the finale they like, I can't remember
the word was just like barely made. It just nudged
over to the ten mark one. This is gonna be
a different conversation when I have Taylor Kirkland. The fact
that Star Wars just like barely getting the top ten
for streaming show, I think shows how much how bad
the brand is hurt. And I really think there's a
chance that man Lar and Grogu movie that needs to
do well, but I think there's a chance that fucking
eats it. And I think they're really gonna see, man,
we really damage Star Wars. And I think there is
a bigger conversation of like, overall, nine ten years after
Star Wars has start, you know, Disney and Lucasfilm have
started here, is that a good thing or bad thing? Like?
Is there more cons or pros? And I just thinking
about it, I think there's more cons. And that's why
for this show to not be in the top ten
for a majority of the time, and then when it
gets back there finale to be a one hundred and
eighty million dollar project and that's report budget, so it's
probably more. Is fucking ridiculous And some of these arguments
people have made just makes little sense. The whole you
let the sex's racist win again, That to me is
a straw man that does not make any sense of
So you just want people to just eat anything. It's like, oh, well,
you said they you wanted something post Rise of Skywalker
pre rise something to do with no Skywalker's right, Yeah,
but I also want to be good. I don't just
want to be like, hey, I ordered a pizza. Oh well, sorry,
we burnt your pizza to a Chris. Oh well, I
don't want that pizza. Well you were pizza right, fucking
eat the pizza. Nope. There's still standards and goality check
that asks to be done, and that's way with this show.
The other one that I just don't understand is the
well I just feel like people in there get upset
and we all do this throw common sense out the window. Well,
look at Clone Wars. We would have never got Clone
Wars if it acted this way. That movie costs eight
million dollars. I said in the Jewish Chet, you could
have made twenty two Clone Wars movies. And guess what
when you made the Clone Wars movie panned by audience
credits credits critics, still made a profit and then went
on the show, I'm sure made more profit. Right, This show,
I guarantee you is not making a profit with one
hundred and eighty million. There's if it was, they wouldn't
cancel it. And that's why it's tough. The other argument too,
of hey, they let the bad people win, right versus
all they canceled because of lack of success. For me,
you look at Captain Marvel. That movie comes out and
it has a bad audience, but it makes a billion
and they make a sequel based on that. They didn't
go well. A bunch of people made which I'm sure
they do is but some stuff, but they didn't go well.
A bunch of people made Red Eye thumbnails Bree Larson,
So let's not do number two. It's canceled. They did
it the Marvel's Bomb, But that doesn't matter in this conversation.
It's was the project that had a lot of vitual
towards it's successful and Disney Green Lit Moore, Yes, same
thing here. This is lots of vitrol. But if people
were watching this, if it was critically acclaimed, to me,
it would stick around. It does not warrant it, and
people are when they compare the Clone Wars movie, I
saw great comparison the Clone Wars moving to this show.
It's like comparing an a twenty four movie to a
major blockbuster. It doesn't make sense that budget does not
track of the Clone Wars movie versus this show, and
I know people go, well, you know, in the streaming age,
nothing gets a shot anymore. I don't know even in
the nineties, how many dozens and dozens of show a
year had one season and we're canceled. Yes, some were
given a shot, and of course that is great, but
we're not in that time anymore. So many shows get
canceled after one season. It's not just exclusive the Star Wars,
I mean different as Star Wars did this, Like look
at all these other shows on other platforms. It's like, no,
this happens a lot. And this still happened in the nineties,
the two thousands, you know, fucking Joey, the spin Joey,
the spin off of the most popular shown Friends. When
you look at those numbers for Joey, not great compared
to Friends, but great compared to stuff nowadays. Because it
sucked for them and this isn't worth the investment, they
cancel that. And that's to me what this is where
it's just I think they just has to. People are
a little worked up, but they're not using common sense
and they just throw out the Well we let the
bad people win or they got the cancelation. I really
don't think if the show is doing that well, Disney
would have got rid of it. And I think this
just shows a lack of planning, a lack of strategy
with whoever it is. Fallone Disney lucasfilm with Star Wars
as a brand, and this just didn't pan out. And
I think this has been a long time coming that
these shows have done a lot of damage for the brand,
and they've been they have not been good for the
most part. Now I think in this back half right,
like Boba Fett Mando three obi wan for some people,
a little bit for me this, Uh, there's problem, I
said Manuel three, Like there's been so many multiple kind
of myth things that they just they're not taking care
of the brand. To me, when this show has writing
that is similar to a kid's animated show and just
storylines and character scistions don't make sense. What are you
doing here with one hundred eighty million dollars And let's
take a look here, let's take a look. Let's go
box office Mojoe top twenty four. Actually I'll do the numbers,
hopefully brandicles and this it'll have this. Let's see box
office because I want to see for let's just go
one hundred Yeah, top movies twenty twenty four, let's just
go for production budget. Okay, who knows, because that is
what they're right, one hundred eighty million. So let's go
production budgets. So we're gonna take the top ten movies
of the year and see what their production budget was. Now,
of course I'm not saying all these would hit and
be the same way, but as we've seen with What
the fuck, uh gosh, I'm forgetting it now, amen, Romless.
This week, which again I want to talk about box office.
I will at the end of summer hopefully and just
talk about the winners and losers, because it's been a
fascinating summer. It started from May and June. Band Yeah,
it's dead, box office dead. Were fucked. We're never gonna
be fully recovered. To July and August, almost every movie
doing better than it's expectations. Right, But let's take a
look here. So I got one, two, three, four, five, six, eight,
ten two more. So let's get Quiet Place and Garfield.
The point is there's movies like Romulus, there is fuck,
there's another movie that was a good comparison to as
far as movies that were supposed to be streaming, came
out and at least made some money for the sios. Right. Uh,
let's take a look here. Oh, why is the numbers not?
Just have like a budget right away? Don't like that budget?
Production budget? Okay, so inside out too? Two hundred million.
That's a bigger one, right, but still, what's that fifteen
million off? Dead but won't ring? That's gonna be a
bigger one at two hundred yeah, right, okay, so fifty
million off again, just spickle me production budget? Oh, one
hundred thousand, one hundred thousand. Again, these are brands, but
still this is just like I think that you'd probably
even if a bombs have more successful an Accolade moving
getting some money out than that Dune one hundred and
ninety million. So Dune production budget five million more, and
first of all, looks like different generations better than this, right,
five million dollars more. God's Over His Kong one hundred
and thirty five million, Kung Fu Panda eighty five million,
Bad Boys one hundred million, Twisters one hundred and fifty
five life, quiet Place not let's sit here, don't have
quiet place? Garfield sixty million, and let me go one
after Ghostbusters. I think they didn't do as well, right,
but Ghostbusters, that's your top fifteen here, one hundred million.
Majority of those are on par or under what the
act like got, and the act like got just to
pretty much burn money. Not talking about if you liked it.
If you like it, of course they didn't burn money.
We're not talking about that. We're talking about business. Check
your emotions at the door here. That price tag does
not justify going forward with the reception it got. Like
the viewership's right there. It does not justify the comparisons
to the Clone Wars movie or the I just feel
like people also act like a show's never been canceled.
It sucks, but like I had to accept when Hannibal,
my second favorite show, which I think is one of
the great shows all the time, called cancel off season three.
Is just it had anych audience. New people weren't joining
in and didn't have a massive audience, didn't have a
big enough audience to justify it continuing. So it got
the acts and it sucks, but I have to kind
of accept it when people do the whole Oh my god,
how do you expect shows to how do you expect
us to invest in shows that aren't gonna finish. I
don't know, there's fucking a bunch of other shows out
there that are going to their multiple seasons. Find one
those that you like. Not saying it doesn't suck, I'm
saying this that people talk in such a childlike way.
I'd understand if you were a twelve year old that
loved just showing your first time that like me, you know,
dirty Sexy Money gets canceled, You've never any shows get canceled,
and you're just disappointed. Sure, but when you're adult being like,
how our story's supposed to have finish? Huh man, don't
got three seasons? Strangers Things got a six or seven
season coming up, show Gun's getting a second season was
a limited series, Like there are shows out there, the
Boys season four, Like, it's no different than it was
in the nineties two thousands. The metrics are different. And yes,
are they for sure giving more shows in the nineties
two thousands of a chance? Absolutely, But things change. So
when they look at the numbers for and I looked
at this chart, take and so gua it was Q
two of twenty twenty three where they lost ten million
subs they've never gone those subs back for Disney Plus.
They talked about how they've made a profit because this
Disney Plus cores description, they have their prices, but really
that's like twisting some numbers. Their subs go back and forth,
go back and forth. So if they're subs in the
last quarter, maybe don't hit a certain way, they go, well,
something has to go. Well, look at this thing that.
Speaker 2: Ate a bunch of money for us, Why would you
Why would you green light that? If you would greenlight that,
then you you've no business being anywhere near a company.
Speaker 1: Like Disney with these big decisions, because that just would
not make sense. It sucks that, I do hope, but
it's not that they take it as well. People didn't
tune because it's not Skywalker's. I think that is something
that they should not give up on. But if they do,
it's very disappointing. But that's kind of Star Wars story
right now in general, very disappointing these past few years.
They need some wins and an accolade. Season two I
don't think was gonna be it. I don't think quality
was because the rumor was they were set up a
writing team with less of Hehenlan, you know the crew.
To me, it would have been much more of the same.
And I do think there's aspects of it that hurt
the brand, if not because the whole Anakin is not special,
or the witches and you know, gay relationships, not that,
just because it's not good and people just tuned out
or did not enjoy their time with it, right, So
it sucks for people. I do get it, But to me,
this is like a it's not a non story. It's
definitely a story because that's a big deal. But it
shows that we're in a different time again when we're
talking about like different airs and everything, their costs cutting,
they're talking about Marvel and d or sorry, Marvel Stars
slowing down and if this is a show that costs
less money, and they go, well, where's the return, where's
the positive feedback? Why should I give you more money
to do this again and maybe have less results. It
doesn't make sense. So I get the emotion behind it
from people, but when you look at the just facts
of it, I don't understand how people have an issue
with it. Do the bad asshole Stars fan get to
take a victory lap, Yes, but that's like a broken
clock right, twice a day. They're gonna take a victory
app no matter what. Even if it was renewed for
season two, they would have been mad, but it would
have found something of this episode's awful Leslie Headlins. Is
this yet it doesn't matter because majority of those people
are just looking for your clicks and attention. They're I'm
not saying they're not actually bad people. They probably are
as far as just like assholes, but half the stuff
they don't believe, you know. And if anything, this sucks
for them, I imagine they would feel as a content
creator because they could have got so much more material
out of that, but now they're getting that loss to them. Right.
Is there some of that that could be going into this?
Absolutely there could be. It could be it's also not
worth the hassle, but it can't be the prime reason, because,
like I said, if it was that successful, they would
have kept it. I don't think people really understand. I
think they think they're been in any way too easily here.
And it's interesting because they got books coming out for it.
It was a you know, pitches of multiple seasoning, even
though oh, You'll end on season one and feel completed,
which was not the case that was definitely not the
case with Acolyte. That was another ball drop, just like
just unkept promises and I want say promises in like reality.
But as far as just the expression, there's so much
that was said, this is gonna happen, that is what
you need. This was gonna you know, this will do
and they don't do it. It's empty promises, what I
should say. And the fact that it's canceled it sucked
because there's so much potential. I think the show had
great cast. Never saw Russian Doll, but I heard great
things about it. And the fact that it's just gone. Man,
that's that is a bummer. It's a bummer all round
for everybody. But at the same time, you don't gotta
throw logic out the window. Sure you could try to
give it a second season, but again with that price
dag probably not. You know, it's just and there's not
much Disney or yeah, there's not much Star Wars on Disney,
plus coming up there's and or a soak up. But really,
when you look for out there, it's pretty it's pretty quiet.
So what if they're gonna wait for you know, the
movie and see what their privitage is to maybe they're
just gonna go back to movies, but lucasfilm in general
needs just between the movies, the TV and even the games,
they just need a gutting overall because there are so
many problems on so many facets. DC has their stuff
way more together now and Marl we'll definitely got some
big issues which we'll talk about quickly. But yeah, it's
it's just disappointing around. I feel bad for the pill.
Did like the show, but it to me, it just
seems pretty obvious of when you got a cost cut,
the lowest thing in the tone pole has to go
and act like for the cost it is. That's why
it's gonna go. And I think you'll probably see a
bit more of that in the future. So and finally,
when we're talking about marvel Ay, Yeah, yeah, this whole
X Men ninety seven boat to male thing. I won't
add too much because I feel like it's pretty clean
cut here, right, we know how this goes. You know,
person goes a big against big billion, almost trillion dollar corporation,
they ain't gonna win unless you have a smoking gun.
I think for me, the biggest thing to add on
this is it just sucks that ninety seven had such
a resurgence and it came back and it was actually
good and we were also happy, and now kind of
has this dark cloud of potential stuff going on if
you don't know. Obviously, Boat to Mail is fired premiere
before X Men ninety seven, and then it's come out that,
you know, for the sources or other things, that it
was made for some sexual misconduct. But then him as
lawyer said no, we're gonna prove his innocence, and they
also said to say that we're gonna prove that the
people that reported bout Hr did not send this to
this even though in the statement that confirms that he
was reported hr, so clearly there was issues. It's tough
because if this guy is really being gas lit and
fucked over, that sucks because this is the unwinning, winnable battle.
And of course it doesn't have to be stated. Sexualist
conduct doesn't matter if your high position or not. Just
shouldn't be doing it, especially if the rumor is, hey,
you're told not to do it and then you continue
to do it. Kind of a fucking no brainer, I
would feel, right. And the other no brainer I would
feel is, wouldn't you if you're this boat to mail guy.
Let's say you do this stuff, you get fired. He
always scott free, no one knows about it. And then
you continue to poke the bear. Why don't you go
somewhere else and try and get more work. I don't
understand the method of I guess trying to maybe get
able to rally behind him, and I'm saying if he
doesn't have proof, right, I don't get it. Because they
broke their quiets at Oh we think for his work,
and now they gotta come after him because he says
that he was His season two credits were taking off
the show because of a posts he made about a
shirtless cyclops and they go, no, it's for other things.
I'm not sure what the WGA's ruling is on that.
If there is stuff in a contract where you could
strike them if they broke an NDA or something like that,
but it's gonna be a messy, interesting situation. I like, again,
it just sucks in general that that is something we
have to talk about concerning ninety seven. But yeah, it
it makes a lot of sense. There were things I
had heard from other supers that kind of insinuated a
Louis k type of situation, and so for the stories
we've heard match that up. Don't know what they're gonna
do to respond here, but yeah, it's gonna get messy.
And like I said, it's a shame for X Men
that has had so much love and care put into it,
clearly and by many. Now it's this conversation and Season
two probably that conversation bit and some questions any even
especially Season two is not as good that's gonna come
up as well. And yeah, that is not a situation
I would like to be dealing with right now. And
I don't know what's gonna happen with I know Season
two will come out with this thing. I'm not sure
if they'll just said it out of court. I'm not
sure if they're gonna make an example out of them.
But it's you are stuck between a rock and a
hard place when you're suing a company that is the
biggest Disney, and not that Disney's the biggest company out there,
but in this thing, like Disney can just burn money
while you go to a lawsuit or in court, while
you have to fight like tooth and nail for it. Right,
And I'm not saying this to defend the guy. I'm
just saying, you're looking at the situation logically, right, it's
kind of unwinnable battle unless you have a smoking smoke.
And I just don't know if he sees the company
that lets that happen. So we'll see. But I guess
that's the drama now, is this sexual miscontent if it's
true or not true, and it's just a shitty situation
overall that I hope. Uh, I don't know. I don't
know what the resolution is because it looks like it's
just gonna be messy now, right. So I thought I
had more to add on this, but maybe I didn't.
Maybe maybe it's just because like the dust is settled
a little bit. But Marvel had to come out and respond,
and that's not good because they don't do that that often.
So I wish this wasn't a case which just wasn't
someone was talking about. But here we are, so as usual,
be kind to people. If you have people not being
kind to you, or see that report that you know,
call somebody, don't let that shit fly. Doesn't matter what
position they're in, it doesn't matter if this guy did
it or not. Right, that's all alleged. I'm just saying,
in general, don't be shitty to people. And I guess
for Beau to Mao, if this was a true story,
common sense is not a thing because they let you
get a get agile free car per se and you
get ripped it up, and that is a bull I'll
give you that. That's a bull move. And I hope
you have something. I hope you can have something clear
your name, because that would make it better for me
watching ninety seven. Now there's a lot of people who
worked in ninety seven, so I'll still be able to
watch it, but just me in general, be like, yeah,
I remember that guy every time you see his name.
What happened? There not a feeling that I really want
when I'm watching my favorite Marvel characters. But I wish
everybody in the best figuring this out. And I hope
if anything did happen with employees that they're a okay
and it was not something that was too traumatizing on
them or you know, getting the way of their work
or just having a good day, you know. So yeah,
we'll see what happens with this, Maybe something at court,
maybe they'll just, like I said, make an example out
of it. But this has been an episode trest told
you a little shorter. Like I said, we will do
the box Office, but it's late here when I'm recording it,
so I don't want to do that, but breakdown like
rush through or anything. I want to have a fun
conversation about what's going on because it's been a it's
been a wacky season. I'm glad movies are doing better,
but it's been an odd season in the box office,
the most unpredictable it's ever been. So thank you very
much for tuning in when you hear from next not
be boring.