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Speaker 3: This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Hello, and
Speaker 3: welcome back to the show. Got another watch party for
Speaker 3: us today, brought to us by my husband. He watches
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan episode It is if you care to know
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan number two four five two guest Roger Avery. So,
Speaker 3: if you're like me, I'm assuming you've never heard of
Speaker 3: this fucking guy, and uh I will read you the
Speaker 3: description from the Joe Rogan Experience. It says Roger Avery
Speaker 3: is a director, producer, and Academy Award winning screenwriter known
Speaker 3: for Pulp Fiction, which he co wrote with Quentin Tarantino,
Speaker 3: as well as the Rules of Attraction and and Killing
Speaker 3: Zoey and he is the co host, along with Tarantino,
Speaker 3: of the Video Archives podcast. Never heard of this fucking guy,
Speaker 3: but he turns out to be quite interesting. At some point,
Speaker 3: I guess at some point in his life. I guess
Speaker 3: he was like with a group of friends, so they
Speaker 3: was all getting turned the fuck up, and it came
Speaker 3: that part of the night. And I'm sure this has
Speaker 3: happened to you. It's happened to me many times, where
Speaker 3: you decide who is the best drunk driver. I like
Speaker 3: to say that I'm a pretty decent drunk driver. I've
Speaker 3: known better. Anyways, he was like, oh, for sure, I'm
Speaker 3: the best drunk driver here tonight, and he ended up
Speaker 3: killing the fuck out of somebody riding in the car
Speaker 3: with him. I guess he was going like over one
Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour. He tails are kind of fuzzy,
Speaker 3: but somebody got fucked up and died. He got a
Speaker 3: year in prison, five years probation.
Speaker 4: It kind of.
Speaker 3: Was like the graveyard for his career, I guess. But
Speaker 3: he actually turns out to be pretty interesting rip to
Speaker 3: whoever he killed the fuck out of in his car,
Speaker 3: But his reputation is definitely paying for it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that he isn't an interesting individual. He went on the
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan experience and he had quite a few things
Speaker 3: to say that I thought you might find interesting. So
Speaker 3: apparently it's his second appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience.
Speaker 3: He went on once before with Quentin Tarantino and he
Speaker 3: was talking about eyes Wide Shut. How the version we see, sorry,
Speaker 3: Sean McCann, isn't the actual full I guess he saw
Speaker 3: some kind of extended version, right, And I've heard that before.
Speaker 3: I've heard Jay Widener talk about this extended version. I've
Speaker 3: heard quite a few people actually mention it. So yes,
Speaker 3: i'd like to believe if you watch it front ways
Speaker 3: and back ways, shit lines up. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, that's one person's theory and it might
Speaker 3: be an interesting one. But a lot of people are
Speaker 3: talking about an extended cut. I've always thought there was
Speaker 3: an extended cut. I don't think what we see is
Speaker 3: what Kubrick had in mind. I think that there was
Speaker 3: probably a lot more to it, and that's something that
Speaker 3: this guy brings up, and apparently he's gotten a lot
Speaker 3: of shit about it. But the truth may never be known,
Speaker 3: whether we're seeing the final version of it or not.
Speaker 3: But I think it's an interesting.
Speaker 1: Topic.
Speaker 3: He also in this episode is just him no Quentin
Speaker 3: Tarantino talks about he touches a little bit on like
Speaker 3: flatter stuff, eating babies and shit, and it's stuff that
Speaker 3: I've of course talked to you guys about, but when
Speaker 3: it comes from an outside source, it tends to kind
Speaker 3: of make you wonder how much he really knows about
Speaker 3: this stuff. So we're just gonna do this little watch
Speaker 3: party together. Might find some of it highly interesting. At
Speaker 3: let me share my screen here, share my sound, Joe Rogan,
Speaker 3: because this podcast is depinnacle of all fucking conspiracy and
Speaker 3: other related bullshitting podcast look a stupid face, Okay, but
Speaker 3: Joe Logan experience Strain by.
Speaker 1: Day, Joe Roggy Podcast by night, all day Comma Roger, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, go for it, fuck it, we'll.
Speaker 5: Do it live.
Speaker 1: You do it live. That's a classic. Yeah, that's a classic.
Speaker 1: Look behind the scenes, fucking crazy, crazy people telling you
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So for the first about hour and nine minutes, they're
Speaker 3: just bullshitting about film and their favorite movies and Sigourney Weavers,
Speaker 3: tits and whatever else. And listen, I'm sure this guy's
Speaker 3: got great taste in film and whatever else. But he
Speaker 3: killed the fuck out of somebody in his car. And
Speaker 3: you know, the guy's careers in the shitter, and I
Speaker 3: just don't care to know what he thinks of Sigourney
Speaker 3: Weavers tits that the most important parts are going to
Speaker 3: come after an hour into the interview, and that's where
Speaker 3: we're going to start right now. Hang on just a
Speaker 3: second here.
Speaker 5: That movie was released today, people would be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what's happening today. Yeah, and so yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: Oh they're putting people in sulfuric acid, into milk, into drums,
Speaker 5: what the fuck and shipping them around the world, you know,
Speaker 5: as a joke, you know, like that's in the film. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's also did you see the thing in the Epstein Files?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like they Epstein Files. In fact, I can't
Speaker 5: believe that. Like everybody's just kind of like h okay
Speaker 5: and they're moving on with their lives. Did you see
Speaker 5: that guy at the Atlanta airport flipping out? The well
Speaker 5: dressed black dude who just freaks out in the Atlanta
Speaker 5: just like a couple of days ago on I saw
Speaker 5: it on YouTube and I saw it on Twitter or
Speaker 5: x and uh, this guy is just freaking out in
Speaker 5: the Atlanta airport. He's like I read the Appstute Files,
Speaker 5: like all of you you're going about your lives like
Speaker 5: nothing's happening. Look at your old zombies. And he's right,
Speaker 5: it's like invasion of the body snatchers. Everybody is just
Speaker 5: numb to everything, Like, dudes, we had a global pandemic aliens. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know all these like revelations people are, you know,
Speaker 5: eating babies.
Speaker 4: Here's the guy.
Speaker 1: Normal and there's.
Speaker 5: A longer version of that where he's but he's basically
Speaker 5: like you're all acting like nothing's happening, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 5: You know, you're all just pretending you're just drones going
Speaker 5: on in your normal.
Speaker 1: Waiting for a condensed version that lays out all the facts.
Speaker 1: It's the people that are like really interested in reading
Speaker 1: all the email.
Speaker 5: I think the Luciferians cast a spell on the world
Speaker 5: for real. Oh absolutely, Like you know, it's just like
Speaker 5: how vampires can't go into a house unless they're invited.
Speaker 5: They tell you, you know what's going on ahead of time.
Speaker 5: It's predictive programming and once you say it out loud
Speaker 5: and you put it out there and make fun of
Speaker 5: it and do a little skit like they had, like
Speaker 5: Stephen Colbert did a little skit on his show where
Speaker 5: oh here's a baby I'm gonna take this baby and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it to Moloch. And he goes into
Speaker 5: like a cloudy red, you know, furnace and hands the
Speaker 5: baby over and oh, the baby's going to be fine,
Speaker 5: and they make a joke about it, and the audience laughs. Okay,
Speaker 5: we're all now conditioned to it, we've all seen it,
Speaker 5: and by laughing at it, oh, wait to come, we're complicit.
Speaker 1: You think that that's a that's on purpose, that this
Speaker 1: is like some sort of a grand design to get
Speaker 1: us to be desensitized to the idea of demons eating babies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, really for sure.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Joe, this is the problem is he's got somebody,
Speaker 3: a guest who is actually talking about some real shit
Speaker 3: that's going on that everybody fucking knows about that I've
Speaker 3: been telling you about for years. You really think there's
Speaker 3: a plan where they're desensitizing people about eating babies. Yeah, Joe,
Speaker 3: fucking asshole, there is a plan to desensitize people. That's
Speaker 3: funny that they're fucking eating babies. It's like the Tim
Speaker 3: Dillon thing that I shared with you. Guys. We eat
Speaker 3: the babies, we rape the babies, we eat the babies.
Speaker 5: You did it, I did it, We.
Speaker 3: All did it. That's the fucking problem. And Joe's sitting
Speaker 3: there like a fucking asshole. And by the way, he
Speaker 3: does he not look like he's like seventy fucking years old.
Speaker 3: What is going on with his face? He looks like
Speaker 3: a crushed out Marlboro red And then he's gonna talk
Speaker 3: about all these health supplements and shit like that. If
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna look like after you take it,
Speaker 3: no thanks. And he's fucking stupid too, so they're not
Speaker 3: helping his intelligence level at all, or maybe and this
Speaker 3: is probably more true than it is you know something
Speaker 3: I've just made up. But he pretends to be stupid.
Speaker 3: He probably already knows all this stuff, and he's probably
Speaker 3: even part taken a couple of this shit rituals and stuff,
Speaker 3: but he pretends. He like plays retarded and like it
Speaker 3: almost it's almost like he has to do that to
Speaker 3: make the guests look retarded. Even the way he said it,
Speaker 3: you really think that there is a plan to de
Speaker 3: sensitize people to think it's funny they're eating babies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Joe fucking asshole, by the.
Speaker 5: Way, but nobody's doing anything about it.
Speaker 1: We know what's happening, but that has to take like
Speaker 1: there has to be a person or some group of
Speaker 1: people about eighty five hundred people, Yeah, that are manipulating
Speaker 1: the Colbert Show.
Speaker 5: They're manipulating everything. It's all an illusion. Like reality as
Speaker 5: we know it is fake. That's that's the revelation that
Speaker 5: that guy is having. And he's looking around and he's like,
Speaker 5: it's like invasion of the body snatchers.
Speaker 1: Well it's sir, see, I don't. The thing about the
Speaker 1: emails is one of the things is it's just stuff
Speaker 1: written down, and so that's sort of hard to digest,
Speaker 1: like what is this, Like what are they saying? Like
Speaker 1: some of it is in code, like walking over beef jerky,
Speaker 1: like saying talking about jerky. Could you walk beef jerky
Speaker 1: over to this person?
Speaker 5: Like what is that for a pizza? They're talking about
Speaker 5: you never see any pizza. I'm gonna get some rape soda.
Speaker 5: It's like with my cheese pizza. And like there's all
Speaker 5: this coded language and everyone's like, you know, oh, that's uh,
Speaker 5: you're just you just have periola, you know, the You're
Speaker 5: just seeing things where you want to see them.
Speaker 1: No, that's clearly a code. Well, that was the thing
Speaker 1: about pizza.
Speaker 5: Mundas. It's vault decip ergo discipia tour. It's a long
Speaker 5: known concept, and so in Latin Mundes vault means the
Speaker 5: world wants to be deceived ergo dicipiateur. Therefore it is
Speaker 5: we want to be deceived. We we don't want to
Speaker 5: believe the horrors that are actually behind the veil.
Speaker 1: Well, I think with the Epstein files, people are because
Speaker 1: of these emails that have been released, people are just
Speaker 1: now starting to be aware of the bizarreness of the
Speaker 1: code and some of the things, like the facts, Like
Speaker 1: let's just talk about the sulfuric acid. So this was
Speaker 1: like right after he was indicted in two thousand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to get rid of some bodies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how much did some bodies?
Speaker 1: What did it say he ordered like, let's uh, like
Speaker 1: eight thousand gallons. Maybe we can get our sponsor perplexity
Speaker 1: to process this and give us a synopsis of what
Speaker 1: exactly happened, some sort of a breakdown, because one of
Speaker 1: the things they're saying is like he was indicted and
Speaker 1: then right after he's indicted, he orders how many gallons?
Speaker 2: Six fifty five gallon containers full of sulfuric acid.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 5: What what they're eating babies?
Speaker 1: Man, Like, that's the heat? So that that you think
Speaker 1: is real?
Speaker 5: So well yeah, not only that, I think that there's uh,
Speaker 5: you know, sacrifices going on every day in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, allegedly, like you know, high level musicians.
Speaker 5: Let's say, high level female musician is like, you know,
Speaker 5: killing chickens every day, doing sacrifices, like.
Speaker 1: You know, high level.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to say I don't want to
Speaker 5: say names because I don't want to get sued and
Speaker 5: I don't want to be dead either.
Speaker 1: Is it rhyme?
Speaker 2: Here's the purchase order, I go. I start looking at
Speaker 2: the comments for some stuff. Not that this is the
Speaker 2: best answer, but a quick answer someone gives is that
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that he's playing smart because he's been to jail.
Speaker 3: He knows the fuck you can end up there. So
Speaker 3: he's saying, I don't want to get sued and I
Speaker 3: don't want to be dead. Uh, Joe, you have fucking
Speaker 3: bags under your eyes. Get some fucking under I cream
Speaker 3: gross in the back of his look at the back
Speaker 3: of his neck right now, it's like a chowed It's
Speaker 3: like that head and the shoulders and the back all connect.
Speaker 3: He just looks like he looks like a huge chowed
Speaker 3: penis person. And everything he says is stupid and retarded.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. They're pulling up this stuff. It's
Speaker 3: like my husband just said, it's on some Dahmer shit.
Speaker 3: They be doing all of this. Okay, they eat the babies,
Speaker 3: they take big chunks out of them, they tear them apart,
Speaker 3: and they rape the pieces. They do all of all
Speaker 3: of the things. And finally some people with some sense
Speaker 3: are coming on and the Joe Rogan experience reaches millions
Speaker 3: of people, I'm sure. And this guy's like brave enough
Speaker 3: to go on there and really talk about some real shit.
Speaker 3: And the way that he's like interviewing him is almost
Speaker 3: to set him up to look like a dumb ass.
Speaker 3: And I just think that's such a shame, because anybody
Speaker 3: who listens to my show knows everything he's saying is
Speaker 3: absolutely true.
Speaker 2: Uh, this could be for like a reverse osmosis water treatment.
Speaker 5: He is on an island. I mean, there's enough, there's
Speaker 5: enough pushback because Mundes Vult decipi ergo decipiatur you know
Speaker 5: we we but like the timing of all of that, like,
Speaker 5: you know, where are the purchase orders for all of
Speaker 5: that sulfuric acid before then? Oh no, I just want
Speaker 5: to put sulfuric acid into my swimming pool myriadic acid.
Speaker 1: Well that's the question. Was there orders for sulfuric acid
Speaker 1: before this? If they do have a water treatment plan,
Speaker 1: why how does sulfuric acid plan into water treatment?
Speaker 4: Says it's commonly used. This explains it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, it says ro plant reverse osmosis, seawater desalination facility.
Speaker 1: Sulfuric acid is commonly used in the maintenance of such facilities.
Speaker 1: Not everything you don't understand adds up to the worst
Speaker 1: possible thing, be deception.
Speaker 5: Look, maybe they're all eating pizza and grape soda?
Speaker 1: How many who is that guy?
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 5: How many billionaires do you know that you know sit
Speaker 5: down and eat lots of pizza and grape soda and
Speaker 5: ice cream?
Speaker 1: This is weird and chickens.
Speaker 2: That's why I just go a grain of salt. This
Speaker 2: is just a plausible answer. I don't know that it
Speaker 2: is the answer. It could even be wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay, So does he have a desalination plant on the island.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, he is a he had everything,
Speaker 5: he had a dump and uh, like they had all
Speaker 5: sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's tunnels. So they were using that. So they
Speaker 1: were taking seawater and converting into fresh water for what
Speaker 1: for irrigation or for drinking? For all the above.
Speaker 2: One similar email that he wrote to someone said that
Speaker 2: like his around his island is like Damascus, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck does that mean? He was you go
Speaker 2: explore buried shit around my island or what else could
Speaker 2: he mean by that?
Speaker 1: Huh what does that mean? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean that's they say a lot of things and
Speaker 5: they're not really holding it very much.
Speaker 1: Well, the code it's glaringly obvious when they say pizza,
Speaker 1: and when they say jerky, that's glaringly that's how do
Speaker 1: you walk jerky? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And why do I need a chilled container to write,
Speaker 5: you know, a chilled bag or whatever?
Speaker 1: They Jesus Christ, you know, And so you think they're
Speaker 1: eating babies?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I absolutely believe you.
Speaker 1: Should get together with Kurt Matzker. Crazy.
Speaker 5: I don't doubt it for a second. Well, I think
Speaker 5: and I think this dates back, like you know, a
Speaker 5: long long time. This is Moloch worship.
Speaker 1: Well, there was the other email that said, thank you
Speaker 1: for the torture video. I enjoyed the torture video.
Speaker 5: And it's like people just they don't they don't want
Speaker 5: to accept it, Like people don't want to believe it.
Speaker 5: They don't want to accept it.
Speaker 1: Okay, some commentary notes that are remote island with water
Speaker 1: treatment and andry systems could plot possibly stockpile such quantities
Speaker 1: for a one to two year of operations, although others
Speaker 1: argue that using it directly for reverse osmosis, as stated
Speaker 1: in one social post, is technically questionable for membrane health.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Highly corrosive, strong mineral acid that can severely burned skin,
Speaker 1: os dehydrate and char organic material, which is why it
Speaker 1: features in both legitimate industrial processes and in darker hypotheticals online.
Speaker 5: Darker hypothetical Darker.
Speaker 1: Hypotheticals is where I'm leaning. When you get indicted for
Speaker 1: sex trafficking and then you order six drums of sulphuric
Speaker 1: acid right away, are you really worried about your reverse
Speaker 1: osmosis plant right after you get indicted. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know you're going to It looks like.
Speaker 5: A duck, and it quacks like a duck. It's probably
Speaker 5: a duck.
Speaker 1: It's probably a duck. Three hundred and thirty gallons of
Speaker 1: sulphuric acid.
Speaker 4: It says this was the only documented purchase order for it.
Speaker 5: I came out here last time and I talked about,
Speaker 5: you know, the pedal cult inside of the Kubrick film, Yes,
Speaker 5: And I got so much blowback from that. You know,
Speaker 5: the online critics are like, no, no, there's nothing in
Speaker 5: their Mundes vault, Decippie. They don't want to see it.
Speaker 5: They don't want to they don't want to see those
Speaker 5: two guys walking away with that girl in the end.
Speaker 5: They just like, well, no, no, it's it wasn't in
Speaker 5: the Schnitzeler novel and blah blah blah. I mean, dude,
Speaker 5: look at that movie. It's about a cult, Like, what
Speaker 5: are you talking about? It's a secret cult. And in fact,
Speaker 5: Sidney Lemetz's character even says at one point, you know, uh,
Speaker 5: do you know what these people do? I'm not going
Speaker 5: to tell you what they do, but let me tell
Speaker 5: you if I told you what they do, they would
Speaker 5: like scare the hell out of you. I mean, like
Speaker 5: that's after he's been to the place and seeing everybody
Speaker 5: walking around in the in the sex club. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's obviously there's obviously more going on in that movie,
Speaker 5: but people don't want to see it. I like, like
Speaker 5: I had what was it, New York magazine or whatever
Speaker 5: when so far it's like, you know, aggressively trying to
Speaker 5: get me to debunk it and uh, which is fine,
Speaker 5: just fine, It's just an interpretation of a movie, right, But.
Speaker 1: That interpretation resonated. I mean that clip went very very viral.
Speaker 5: Especially now. It's like people are like looking at it
Speaker 5: and they're like, well, you know, he was obviously saying something.
Speaker 5: Even if you extract that out of the movie, he's
Speaker 5: obviously saying something about people at high levels of power.
Speaker 1: Well, there's always been weird secret groups and rituals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's one of the ways to ensure that you're compromised,
Speaker 1: you'll stay.
Speaker 5: It's a confidence operation, yes, And so what you do
Speaker 5: is you find somebody when they're young and they're you know,
Speaker 5: less inhibited, and they you know or uninhibited, and you
Speaker 5: catch them doing something that is illegal, and maybe you
Speaker 5: even provide the mechanism for that to happen. And then
Speaker 5: once it's happened, you now have the video proof or
Speaker 5: the audio proof or whatever proof you have. You've got
Speaker 5: proof of it, and you show it to them and
Speaker 5: you say, look, this is what we have on you,
Speaker 5: and uh, and we can ruin you at any minute,
Speaker 5: but you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna give
Speaker 5: you twenty thousand dollars a month, or we're gonna give
Speaker 5: you twenty million dollars a year, whatever level that is instead,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna work for us, and and what else
Speaker 5: explains some of these people who are so flipped out about,
Speaker 5: like you know about Trump, Like, guy, these are pots.
Speaker 5: He's a like there, it's over the top, it's you
Speaker 5: know what. It's strange how people are, how people behave
Speaker 5: in regarding that.
Speaker 1: So you think that's also just because the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: didn't want him to get into power because he was
Speaker 1: a complete outsider.
Speaker 5: I don't think there are are parties. I don't think
Speaker 5: there is there. I think that's all an illusion. Also,
Speaker 5: I think everything that you think that it is is
Speaker 5: an illusion. It's all fake. I don't think that any
Speaker 5: history before sixteen hundred. I think everything has been falsified
Speaker 5: before the year sixteen hundred. Well, there's this guy, Anatoly Fomenko,
Speaker 5: who's a Russian mathematician and historian, and he wrote a
Speaker 5: book called The New Chronology. It's actually a series of books.
Speaker 5: It's like six volumes, and I've read them all, and
Speaker 5: and and and also his addendum book The New Chronology.
Speaker 5: He has an addendem book about.
Speaker 2: It, and.
Speaker 5: He basically says that all of history has been changed.
Speaker 5: About a thousand years have been added to the timeline
Speaker 5: in order to justify land claims, and those land claims
Speaker 5: largely have to do with Eurasian the Eurasian Horde, and
Speaker 5: the elimination of the Eurasian Horde by collusion between you know,
Speaker 5: the Vatican, the Romanov's the.
Speaker 1: You mean, like the Mongols and the Huns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a and if you look on very
Speaker 5: very old maps, you see that there used to be
Speaker 5: a country called Tartaria that was in existence and at
Speaker 5: a certain point they wiped them out. And so his theory,
Speaker 5: and it's just a theory, it's just a deposit. But
Speaker 5: when you see how history is constantly being rewritten in
Speaker 5: real time. It's not so hard to believe. And then
Speaker 5: he uses, you know, astronomical evidence and you know, mathematically
Speaker 5: kind of proves it. And he basically says that, let's
Speaker 5: see if I can get this right. That Rome and Greece,
Speaker 5: and you know those in Egypt were actually active till
Speaker 5: around sixteen hundred, and that Rome actually fell around sixteen hundred,
Speaker 5: so kind of a magic or more like late fourteen
Speaker 5: hundreds fourteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: As opposed to was the conventional timeline.
Speaker 5: About a thousand years before and so and so, you know,
Speaker 5: if you can wrap your head around it, the Salem
Speaker 5: witch Trials took place around the same time as the Inquisition.
Speaker 5: Columbus was discovered America, around the time Rome fell, and
Speaker 5: that all of this was designed to justify and or
Speaker 5: to erase this entire civilization from history. And then there
Speaker 5: are people who believe that there are a lot of
Speaker 5: buildings that are still in existence that were this. They
Speaker 5: claimed that Jesus Christ was I can't remember the emperor's name.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a composite story. There's a number of
Speaker 5: so they think.
Speaker 1: A thousand years are missing from the time I.
Speaker 5: Think about it. If you're a Byzantine guy and you're like, hey,
Speaker 5: I want to move to the country, and you look
Speaker 5: over at France, let's say, and Germany, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's all these like indigenous peoples there, and we want
Speaker 5: to wipe them out. So you hire a mercenary. You
Speaker 5: hire a guy named Charlemagne, and you get him to
Speaker 5: go in there and kill all the chieftains in one day,
Speaker 5: Like five thousand chieftains were killed in a single day,
Speaker 5: apparently by Charlemagne. And you completely wipe out everything. And
Speaker 5: then you move in. You become Jerme the Drum the
Speaker 5: first and you run Paris or you begin you know, France,
Speaker 5: and what it really is is just land. And so
Speaker 5: you add time to the timeline in order to justify
Speaker 5: that land claim. Because what makes more sense that history
Speaker 5: was cruising along like this and then suddenly flatlined for
Speaker 5: a thousand years and then picked up again. Or does
Speaker 5: it make more sense that somebody took that time that
Speaker 5: the Dark Ages and kind of added to the timeline.
Speaker 1: So I'm confused. So, but isn't there like documented history
Speaker 1: from multiple cultures about that time period.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's all like you know, written down by
Speaker 5: the Jesuits who were completely in the control of You know,
Speaker 5: it's that history. History is easily changed, and in fact,
Speaker 5: we see history being changed before our eyes in real time,
Speaker 5: and so the deep past is easy to change.
Speaker 1: So we're not in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: No, we're like in the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Oh geezuz, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Just a theory. It's just this guy antonally and and
Speaker 5: tout antoly uh famenco and uh And it's a very
Speaker 5: interesting theory. And so I read that when I kind
Speaker 5: of had a tent pole collapse. That was like, well,
Speaker 5: holy crap.
Speaker 1: Explain to me the flatness, Like, what do you mean
Speaker 1: by history goes up and then flat?
Speaker 5: Well, the progression, the progression of humanity through history as
Speaker 5: we kind of are progressing as we go, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden there's this flat line called the
Speaker 5: Dark Ages where nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Is there a conventional explanation for this flat line for
Speaker 1: a thousand years the.
Speaker 5: Collapse of Rome and uh and falling into barbarism the
Speaker 5: time of barbarism.
Speaker 1: M that's not plausible.
Speaker 7: Everything is plausible, sound, familiar, and mattress firm. We understand
Speaker 7: there are many problems that can keep you up a night,
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Speaker 5: And it's plausible that sulfuric acid is used for ro
Speaker 5: o reverse osmosis, water cleaning, and so everything is possible.
Speaker 5: The question is is it probable?
Speaker 1: Well, Jamie just.
Speaker 5: Pulled up that that was the first time data or
Speaker 5: ordered that. Oh really yeah, okay, so well there it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not good. I mean that's the least of
Speaker 5: the things. The thing is, we become desensitized to stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean, look at everything that has happened in the
Speaker 5: last six years. It's like an insane amount of stuff
Speaker 5: has happened, and everyone's just kind of like numb to it. Well,
Speaker 5: they get and I think it literally is that people's
Speaker 5: brains have been.
Speaker 1: Fried you think by COVID vaccines.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Well there's some scientific evidence that for some people at
Speaker 1: least it crossed the blood brain barrier and had some
Speaker 1: sort of a detrimental effect on their cognitive function.
Speaker 5: mRNA is reprogramming your system, and we're I think, look,
Speaker 5: and we've been looking at a giant die off of people.
Speaker 5: People are collapsing left and nothing is normal anymore. I
Speaker 5: mean that guy at the airport. Who's flipping out. That's
Speaker 5: what he's realizing. He's having a sudden awakening and he's
Speaker 5: tweaking over it. He's like and he's looking around, and
Speaker 5: no one cares. Everyone just wants to, like, you know,
Speaker 5: go through their day they do. Everyone wants to just
Speaker 5: make their next movie and maybe they'll let me make
Speaker 5: their next movie. And everybody wants to just you know,
Speaker 5: I just want to keep going at my job, and
Speaker 5: I just want to do my thing, and I just
Speaker 5: want to protect my thing. There's certainly a lot of
Speaker 5: that going on. British only care about it. As long
Speaker 5: as I have my daily pint at the end of
Speaker 5: the day. That's all they care about. You know, they'll
Speaker 5: in the meantime their entire country is being overtaken and
Speaker 5: run by Like when else in history has this happened
Speaker 5: and ended?
Speaker 1: Well, No, it's so shocking how quickly it's happening in
Speaker 1: England that you just go, how do you bounce back
Speaker 1: from this? Like what is the remedy? Yeah, because they're
Speaker 1: doing this mass arrest thing with social media posts, which
Speaker 1: is bizarre, bizarre to watch, and then they eliminate jury
Speaker 1: trials for anything other than like murder and race.
Speaker 5: You say anything, you're in jail. If you post, if
Speaker 5: you repost anything, you're just immediately sent to jail. Look
Speaker 5: what's going on in Canada right now, you know with CARNEYE.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, I think that's insane. What's going on
Speaker 5: in most Canadians are just kind of vibing along with it.
Speaker 5: Nobody wants to rock the boat. Nobody wants to be racist,
Speaker 5: nobody wants to be you know, nobody wants to be
Speaker 5: discriminatory in any kind of way, rightfully. So, like, you know,
Speaker 5: you and you want to believe that your leaders are
Speaker 5: are taking care of you, and they're not. And it's over.
Speaker 5: We've lost. It's over.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's over here in America as well.
Speaker 5: Well. It got slowed down a little bit. It got
Speaker 5: so whether you like Trump or not, and I'm not
Speaker 5: like a I don't really like anybody, but it's a
Speaker 5: healthy It definitely added a road bump in the in
Speaker 5: the in the actions of the cabal of the Clinton's
Speaker 5: and the Obamas, and they're the bankers that control them.
Speaker 5: And that's when you see the movie The Counselor that's
Speaker 5: what you realize is that Wow, the cartels are the banks,
Speaker 5: and they are law enforcement, and they are the media,
Speaker 5: and they are everything. And there is no fighting it,
Speaker 5: and there is no individually fighting it, Like there's nothing
Speaker 5: any of us can do that is and I don't
Speaker 5: mean to be I mean, the only thing you can
Speaker 5: do is, you know, affect what's happening around you locally
Speaker 5: within the moment.
Speaker 1: But don't you think that more people are aware of
Speaker 1: what's going on right now? There's more pushback than ever before,
Speaker 1: and so there's a possibility that it could be stopped.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look at that guy. Look at that guy in
Speaker 5: the airport. Though nobody everyone's like he's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's yanling at a fucking airport. I would
Speaker 1: think he's crazy too. Well, it's if I was there,
Speaker 1: way to ahew my flight to go visit my parents,
Speaker 1: and there's some fucking guy yelling out the Epstein fire.
Speaker 1: You're just living your life, like, yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: want me to do, dude, I'm heading Florida right now.
Speaker 5: The body Snashers was about Macarism and what was going
Speaker 5: on at that time, and really, oh yeah, it was
Speaker 5: the original invasion of the body Snatchers was all about McCarthyism.
Speaker 1: And I'm the I'm a fan of the Donald Sutherland one.
Speaker 5: Well, and look at it, and look at how that ends.
Speaker 5: That ends with your walking through the streets pretending to
Speaker 5: be you know, like you're you're just pretending to not
Speaker 5: be an alien, hoping that you can get by. And
Speaker 5: then you know, the minute you show any kind of emotion,
Speaker 5: that's it. You're caught.
Speaker 1: And then they're gonna make you go to sleep. And uh,
Speaker 1: and so I mean so that the original script was
Speaker 1: written about MacCarthy's.
Speaker 5: The original the original film. So Kevin McCarthy movie, okay,
Speaker 5: So and in the end, look how that movie ends.
Speaker 5: That movie ends with him like that guy in the
Speaker 5: airport on the street. You know, they're you know, they're
Speaker 5: it's it's there aliens. He's basically, you know, running through
Speaker 5: the street just in traffic and people just keep driving.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the original one. I might not have
Speaker 1: even seen it, but the Sutherland one was amazing. I
Speaker 1: never would have thought that that's what it was about.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're experiencing a kind of Bolshevik revolution at
Speaker 5: the moment right now, and so in what way, Well,
Speaker 5: there's a rise of Bolshevism. You know, it's like we
Speaker 5: see it, we see it occurring.
Speaker 1: And how do you define Bolshevism, Well.
Speaker 5: It's the Bolsheviks were essentially a kind of uh, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's it's not correct to say communism, but
Speaker 5: it's basically a kind of authoritarianism, you know, in the
Speaker 5: guise of egalitarianism and and helping the world and that
Speaker 5: we're all going to be equal in everything. But they
Speaker 5: were social socialism. Yeah, they were murdering Christians and socialist
Speaker 5: and you know, we're very very close to that now,
Speaker 5: we're very very We're we're standing on civilization is standing
Speaker 5: on the precipice at the moment. And by the way, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, after this podcast comes out, people are going
Speaker 5: to be like a Avery's crazy, Avey went to jail,
Speaker 5: Avery's you know, a killer. They're going to say all
Speaker 5: sorts of shit about me to discredit anything that I say.
Speaker 5: And that's fine, Like I'm easy to discredit, and so
Speaker 5: it's not really my right to speak up anymore about anything.
Speaker 1: And so you're a human being, it's always your right
Speaker 1: to speak up.
Speaker 5: Well it is, but they can each its as I
Speaker 5: look around, like civilization is on the precipice, and you know,
Speaker 5: mostly good people tend to not take action against stuff
Speaker 5: until they have to, until they have to.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this yesterday actually with Cheryl Hints,
Speaker 1: and I was saying, I think we were talking about this, well.
Speaker 1: I was talking about this recently where I was saying
Speaker 1: that it's almost like we need something like a nine
Speaker 1: to eleven to wake us up. I would never want
Speaker 1: that to happen, but I do remember that after nine
Speaker 1: to eleven we were united because we realize, oh, threats
Speaker 1: are real, danger is real, Like we we really do
Speaker 1: need to be united as one group of community and
Speaker 1: recognize that that we are brothers and sisters in the
Speaker 1: streets are not our problem.
Speaker 5: And yeah, but we even know about nine to eleven
Speaker 5: now that like so much of it was like Building
Speaker 5: seven Thermite, Like the evidence is there for anyone to
Speaker 5: look at nobody wants to and nobody wants to look
Speaker 5: at it because and that is nobody wants to look in.
Speaker 1: The conspiracy, like how did these guys get a hold
Speaker 1: of these planes? How did they fly into the building? Who?
Speaker 1: Why were the the dancing Israelis watching it, cheering it on?
Speaker 1: Why did they get, you know, shipped out of the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that guy who who owned the building who
Speaker 5: wanted who took out it like the insurance policy, and
Speaker 5: then you know, had Elliot Spitzer kind of push it
Speaker 5: through and force it through so that he could receive
Speaker 5: his billions in insurance claim money. And really they wanted
Speaker 5: to tear it because they wanted to tear down that
Speaker 5: building and it would have been too expensive to do
Speaker 5: and all the asbestos and everything, so and not better
Speaker 5: to destroyed.
Speaker 1: It's like, what was that building housing? Like building?
Speaker 5: So Building seven was housing all sorts of it was
Speaker 5: an IRS, yeahsa, and what was in building seven?
Speaker 1: Let's find that out? So we don't just I think,
Speaker 1: but there was certainly some intelligence and data that was
Speaker 1: being collected. And billion the fact that no one wants
Speaker 1: to admit that that building fell like a controlled demolition
Speaker 1: is really crazy. And again I'm not saying it's a
Speaker 1: controlled demolition, but the fact that people want to say, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a controlled demolition, Like when was the
Speaker 1: last time you ever saw a fucking building collapse like that?
Speaker 5: Ever?
Speaker 1: Only controlled demolitions. Yeah, There's been many buildings that have
Speaker 1: been very badly damaged and lit on fire, but their
Speaker 1: frame remains reputable.
Speaker 5: Structural engineers have basically also proven the towers could not
Speaker 5: have fallen the way they fell without explosives, you know,
Speaker 5: pre planned explosives. And the people on the scene, the
Speaker 5: rescuers on the scene, the people who were there said, yeah,
Speaker 5: I heard exploded. Boom boom, boom boom. They're describing the
Speaker 5: sounds of controlled demolition.
Speaker 1: US Secret Service floors nine through ten, CIA, the Department
Speaker 1: of Defense sharing the twenty fifth floor with the IRS,
Speaker 1: and the Equal Employment Opportunity.
Speaker 5: Complation, Like you put all that together, CIA, Department of Defense,
Speaker 5: I RS. You know who thinks any of those people
Speaker 5: have your right?
Speaker 1: But also if you wanted to data, you want to
Speaker 1: destroy data, like didn't the part of the Pentagon that
Speaker 1: got hit wasn't And that was also a day after
Speaker 1: Rumsfeld was saying that there was trillions of dollars that
Speaker 1: were unaccounted for. Didn't the accounting part of the Pentagon
Speaker 1: get hit by that air quotes plane?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that that plane that with that plane that
Speaker 5: came in very jamie.
Speaker 1: The building contained about twenty four thousand gallons of diesel
Speaker 1: fuel for generators used by tenants like Solomon Brothers and
Speaker 1: the Emergency Command Center floors forty six through forty seven
Speaker 1: and parts of the lower level where McCamy spaces while
Speaker 1: files from federal investigations secret Service cases were stored there
Speaker 1: but lost in the collapse, and the SEC whipses.
Speaker 5: And has the world been the same since then?
Speaker 1: The SEC like having that there too. Boy, that's super convenient. Guys,
Speaker 1: we lost the data. Let's just start from scratch. There's
Speaker 1: no case anymore. Whatever they were doing.
Speaker 5: And yet nobody wants to accept it. Nobody, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: What's the video of it? That is like really shocking.
Speaker 1: I had this really really dumb guy on the podcast
Speaker 1: once that was a skeptic, a professional skeptic, and he
Speaker 1: was really angry with me for saying that it looked
Speaker 1: like a controlled demolition. You know, you're you're promoting a
Speaker 1: dangerous conspiracy theory. I'm like, no, I'm saying it looks
Speaker 1: like you're saying it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Let's watch it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's watch it.
Speaker 5: Had a pretty good run lately.
Speaker 1: Let's watch it. Let's watch Building seven collapse, because it's
Speaker 1: kind of kooky. Now. One the thing that people do
Speaker 1: point out that is true, is that the center like
Speaker 1: there was a small structure at the top of the
Speaker 1: roof Building seven that collapses first, and it does it
Speaker 1: like I think, a minute before the actual building.
Speaker 5: These are skirts built. These are skirt buildings. And what
Speaker 5: that means is that's actually the most structurally sound part
Speaker 5: of the building. The rest of the movie is a
Speaker 5: facade that's hanging off of the intertress building. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: the most sound part.
Speaker 1: Of the building is built over a con Edison's substation,
Speaker 1: requiring large transfer trusses on lower floors to support the
Speaker 1: tower above, creating long span floors vulnerable to thermal expansion,
Speaker 1: long unsupported floor beams and girders up to fifty feet connected.
Speaker 3: We all know about nine to eleven. We all know
Speaker 3: about Building seven. So I must just spare you this
Speaker 3: part of the conversation here. All right, we're at one
Speaker 3: hour fifty six minutes. When it starts to get juicy again,
Speaker 3: people hang.
Speaker 1: Out, well, do they already have issues with the findings
Speaker 1: from the James Web telescope.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well that's probably part of it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I have to say, like I mean, I'm a provocateur,
Speaker 5: and so I'm always interested in finding that which upsets
Speaker 5: people's you know, concepts of things. And that's partly because
Speaker 5: I'm a screenwriter and I'm looking for these kind of
Speaker 5: conflicts and interesting ideas and stuff like that. So take
Speaker 5: what I'm about to say with a grain of salt.
Speaker 5: But the big one, the biggest conspiracy theory that freaks
Speaker 5: everybody out, is flat Earth. Now, I don't know what
Speaker 5: the Earth is, but experientially, through the testimony of the eyes,
Speaker 5: it is flat. And there is a very little chance
Speaker 5: that I will ever in my life, or most of
Speaker 5: us will ever in our life, experience anything other than
Speaker 5: what is effectively a flat earth. And uh, you know,
Speaker 5: and and you know, the way laser sighting across large
Speaker 5: bodies of water, or navigation map maps for air air travel,
Speaker 5: for for pilots is always the presumption of flat earth.
Speaker 5: It's always in the pilot manuals and on and on maps. Well,
Speaker 5: if you're flying a jet at low altitude, you're not
Speaker 5: making corrections for curvature, even though you're going fast enough
Speaker 5: where you should be, and so what's actually happening there? Well,
Speaker 5: and so the the idea is, Look, I don't know
Speaker 5: what the world is or what the realm that we're
Speaker 5: in is. But experientially, from my perspective in life, it
Speaker 5: is nothing. But it's a flat earth.
Speaker 1: But what about travel routes, Like what about when they
Speaker 1: fly over an article that's well, they don't fly away.
Speaker 1: You can watch the sun rise and fall. They don't
Speaker 1: even they don't even fly from travel session of the equinoxies,
Speaker 1: travel up.
Speaker 5: Into into the other hemisphere and like land in London
Speaker 5: or something, and then travel back down whenever you're doing
Speaker 5: a flight across the Atlantic and so like, uh, when
Speaker 5: you look at it on a flat earth map, But
Speaker 5: the satellite photographs of Earth from space, those are all cartoons.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that even the NASA, the guys who actually
Speaker 5: do those composites, those are composite imagery of Listen, I'm
Speaker 5: not I am not saying that it seems like the
Speaker 5: Earth is possibly flat. I'm saying experientially from a scale day,
Speaker 5: it's a scale issue though. Correct, we're a tiny little
Speaker 5: thing on an enormous thing. Correct, But you know, snipers
Speaker 5: have to calculate for the curvature of the Earth when
Speaker 5: they shoot. Only only the curvature of the landscape that
Speaker 5: they're right. Why I think the landscape curves. The landscape
Speaker 5: doesn't curve. It is a mountainous and not always on.
Speaker 1: Flat planes, you have to do the same thing if
Speaker 1: you're making a long shot over a flat area, like
Speaker 1: if you had to shoot well, then why then why.
Speaker 5: Don't pilots make adjustments.
Speaker 1: I'm not a pilot. I don't know, but I do
Speaker 1: know that when you look at film from the space station,
Speaker 1: when you look at the film from the space station,
Speaker 1: you see an Earth that's not just round but spinning.
Speaker 5: I see what I actually the space station, you know,
Speaker 5: the the International Space Station, is actually not high enough
Speaker 5: to see curvature. And what you're seeing is lens you know,
Speaker 5: the lens distortion.
Speaker 1: It's not high enough to see curvature when you look
Speaker 1: at actually and it's actually even like it's it's very
Speaker 1: very close to the let's look at footage from the
Speaker 1: space station of Earth. So when you see satellite images
Speaker 1: that are taken of the Earth, you think they're lying.
Speaker 1: You think there's this grand conspiracy to piece all these
Speaker 1: pictures together to a circle.
Speaker 5: And still what I'm saying is that's the fundamental conspiracy
Speaker 5: theory that unravels everyone.
Speaker 1: And well it doesn't in a sense because everything that
Speaker 1: we see in the cosmos that's a planetary body, is round,
Speaker 1: including stars. So it's all round except for small moons.
Speaker 1: Everything is round. And that's because.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not even certain certain that space exists, well,
Speaker 5: that the moon is anything more than a plasma.
Speaker 1: A plasma, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: That it's a that it's a plasma effect, a lenticular
Speaker 5: effect of some kind, so.
Speaker 1: That it's not a real thing, but it affects the tides.
Speaker 1: It is something that we have landed, at the very least,
Speaker 1: we've landed prote people. This is footage from the space station.
Speaker 1: This is live footage from the space And.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that, and I'm saying that's lens curvature, and
Speaker 5: that what you're actually shy.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's lens.
Speaker 5: What you're seeing is horizon.
Speaker 1: So what you're talking about is like to provoke you,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right But let's not do that
Speaker 1: right now, because I don't want you to be completely
Speaker 1: fucking insane, because this is a round body, just like
Speaker 1: the Moon, just like Mars, just like Jupiter, just like
Speaker 1: Urin is.
Speaker 5: That appears to be a but in your practical life experience,
Speaker 5: you have to accept a certain amount of faith. But
Speaker 5: that is what I'm getting at at any moment.
Speaker 1: But they understand the procession of the anopolies. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you know that the procession of the ignots is how
Speaker 1: they measure the sky over a period of twenty six
Speaker 1: thousand years?
Speaker 5: I see right there, a little stitching like right there.
Speaker 2: I just said this would just keep going straight forever.
Speaker 5: Do you see that line? Do you see that line
Speaker 5: right there?
Speaker 1: What is that? What is that line?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What is that line? Well, that looks like stitching
Speaker 5: to me. It looks like they've stitched together and crosses
Speaker 5: over there through that mountain range right there.
Speaker 3: So, as you know, and as I've told you before,
Speaker 3: all the NASA images, even this live bullshit that they
Speaker 3: got pulled up, it's all fake. It's all a cartoon.
Speaker 3: It's all CGI imaging. And one of the things. And
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that we live on a flat Earth.
Speaker 3: I did think that at one point, and I think
Speaker 3: that there's some compelling points to the flatter I'm not
Speaker 3: saying we live on a ball I'm not saying we
Speaker 3: live on Earth.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 3: We live in a weird dimension. I think it expands forever.
Speaker 3: I think if we knew what was beyond Antarctica, we'd
Speaker 3: all shit our pants. We'd go run out in the
Speaker 3: streets and throw up. Our reality would be shattered. This
Speaker 3: image that Joe Rogan has pulled up is supposed to
Speaker 3: be a live It says Live now twenty four to
Speaker 3: seven NASA live stream of Earth from space. And there's clearly,
Speaker 3: if you can zoom in and look, a line going
Speaker 3: across the entire image, a glitch, if you will, a stitch,
Speaker 3: if you will, it's a cartoon, it's a CGI, it's
Speaker 3: this is all fake and staged and uh cartoon. But
Speaker 3: if you'll notice, the guest doesn't lose his cool while
Speaker 3: he is arguing his points. What I've noticed is any
Speaker 3: and all, let me not say all, most flat earthers,
Speaker 3: or pretty much any earthers that are not ball earthers,
Speaker 3: and sometimes even ball earthers go to fucking ten when
Speaker 3: they are trying to convince the other party of their point.
Speaker 3: And once you've went to ten, once you've gotten to ten,
Speaker 3: you're not teaching anybody anything. You're making yourself look dumb
Speaker 3: and what I've learned over my years in the conspiracy
Speaker 3: podcasting sphere, no pun intended, is you must remain calm, cool,
Speaker 3: collected when you're talking to a skeptic about anything. You
Speaker 3: don't go to ten. You give them a nugget, You
Speaker 3: let that nugget, you know, you dip it in some sauce,
Speaker 3: even maybe you let them take the first bite, and
Speaker 3: then you come back for the second dip, the double dip,
Speaker 3: and then they eat that bite, and then you go
Speaker 3: in for the triple dip. Okay, barbecue, sauce, ranch, honey, mustard,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what topic it is. You go in for
Speaker 3: the first dip, you let digests that. Then you go
Speaker 3: in for the second, third, fourth dip until they've completely
Speaker 3: digested that nugget. Then you get the next nugget out
Speaker 3: of the pack. You dip that one and whatever sweet
Speaker 3: and sour seschuan sauce. You let him eat that bite. Okay,
Speaker 3: and you just keep going at this at a pace.
Speaker 3: Because right now, beautifully he is demonstrating to Joe Rogan
Speaker 3: that all of these images are cartoons. But he didn't
Speaker 3: go to ten. He remained calm, cool, collected. I'm a
Speaker 3: passionate person, and I do become impassioned when I speak
Speaker 3: to you guys about certain topics. But we're friends here.
Speaker 5: You get me.
Speaker 3: If I was going to approach an AT and T
Speaker 3: salesman with this, it would be in a little bit
Speaker 3: different manner. That being said, this whole thing that is
Speaker 3: about to go down right now is super funny. But
Speaker 3: you might be thinking in the back of your head, well, Julie,
Speaker 3: you know sometimes Joe Rogan says some really compelling stuff
Speaker 3: that sounds like he's on our side, that he might
Speaker 3: be a little bit more conspiratorial than you've given him
Speaker 3: credit for. I think he is completely controlled. He's allowed
Speaker 3: to say certain things, he is not allowed to say
Speaker 3: certain things. He won't even speak on Dave McGowan. He's
Speaker 3: trash talking this guy and making fun of him for
Speaker 3: thinking the Earth is flat and that there's luciferians eating babies,
Speaker 3: which we all know to some degree that this stuff
Speaker 3: is true. Whether it's we're in an inter dimensional, weird
Speaker 3: plane of existence. We don't have a shape to Earth
Speaker 3: whatever it is, or is just a glob of plasma
Speaker 3: that's pulsating throughout uh dimensions of time. I don't know
Speaker 3: what we're on or what this is. But Joe Rogan,
Speaker 3: I feel is and my husband has said this before
Speaker 3: the Laurel Canyon of Podcasters, and uh, we will see
Speaker 3: what shakes out with the Joe Rogan experience. But yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes he says stuff that will make you feel like
Speaker 3: you could get on board with him, and most of
Speaker 3: the time he's just fucking retard. So but let's continue here.
Speaker 1: That was weird.
Speaker 5: So for your by your very example, I'm just saying
Speaker 5: that you have to have a certain amount of faith
Speaker 5: in that. And on the surface, mundes Vault does it.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, Okay, you're freaking me out. Go back to that, Jamie.
Speaker 1: So what is the explaining Go back a little bit.
Speaker 5: What is the explanation of that line right there?
Speaker 1: How weird? Is that that is weird that there's this
Speaker 1: line right.
Speaker 5: Because that in itself is a composite image, a cartoon
Speaker 5: that has been put together for you to look at this,
Speaker 5: this apparent live imagery.
Speaker 1: So and is this multiple images that are supposedly pieced together?
Speaker 5: Is that what they're I'm saying that things fall into it,
Speaker 5: Like the way perspective works is that things appear to
Speaker 5: fall into the horizon. But now you use a what
Speaker 5: is that camera as it a P two hundred camera
Speaker 5: where you can actually zoom in and lift things out
Speaker 5: of the horizon that have appeared to fall into the horizon.
Speaker 1: This live video, this live video feed from the Internet speciations.
Speaker 5: Has been interrupted because you're watching too much.
Speaker 1: Either a change and the onboard camera configuration or a
Speaker 1: loss of signal with the communications network. The video return
Speaker 1: when a connection is re established. So this is during
Speaker 1: the live feed.
Speaker 4: This isn't it from NASA's YouTube channel. It's just down
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: It's just down right now. Okay, So you're you're saying
Speaker 1: that this is like a fish eye effect of a lens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying potentially, I'm saying that, and and that we
Speaker 1: can even see that whenever they're up there shooting with
Speaker 1: cameras outside. You're like, oh, there's the there's there's the curvature.
Speaker 1: And then every now and then the camera turns and
Speaker 1: the and it inverts for.
Speaker 5: A moment, then it goes back down.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that.
Speaker 5: I watch a lot of NASA stuff, and listen, I'm
Speaker 5: not saying that we're not living on a globe or
Speaker 5: at least an oblate spheroid, as Neil deGrasse Tyson says,
Speaker 5: But have you ever noticed how spasticated that guy gets
Speaker 5: Whenever you throw out the word flat earth? He flips out,
Speaker 5: like the way Robert de Niro flips out on like
Speaker 5: irrationally he out.
Speaker 1: He flips out when you say that men can't be women,
Speaker 1: which is very weird. Yeah, and that they should be
Speaker 1: able to compete in women's sports, which is very weird,
Speaker 1: like a for a man of science, that's bonkers.
Speaker 5: Or that they should be able to go to jail,
Speaker 5: and that a sex offender.
Speaker 1: Not just that but rapists. Yeah, like people then in
Speaker 1: jail women and then they have to pay for their
Speaker 1: electrolysis and breast augmentation, which is okay. At what point
Speaker 1: in time do you say that this is some sort
Speaker 1: of a bizarre agenda that you're trying to get us
Speaker 1: to accept something that doesn't make any fucking sense, so
Speaker 1: much so that you're willing to house male prisoners and
Speaker 1: with females because they say they're a male with an
Speaker 1: intact penis, and then even you have they get like
Speaker 1: female prisoners pregnant or rape them.
Speaker 5: We're all just trying to construct what reality is. And
Speaker 5: it tends to be a consensus of what it is.
Speaker 5: But you know, there are fringes that on the ends
Speaker 5: that don't believe with what the consensus says. Are they wrong?
Speaker 1: But do you know how many people would have to
Speaker 1: be involved to promulgate this idea that there's a flat
Speaker 1: earth and you've got to cover up that thing and
Speaker 1: pretend it's round. And what's the motivation of covering up
Speaker 1: the fact that the motive is flat?
Speaker 5: It's an I mean, if we're really fundamentally getting down
Speaker 5: to it, it's about God, and it's about what is
Speaker 5: this realm that we're in and are we part of creation?
Speaker 1: And you know, but why would.
Speaker 5: Culture free culture throughout recorded history draws us in this
Speaker 5: kind of flat earthish environment with a dome affirmament that
Speaker 5: covers it up until like when the nineteen thirties, right,
Speaker 5: so they start making telescope the well and right, I mean,
Speaker 5: so this is a grand conspiracy, like Galileo was wrong,
Speaker 5: Copernicus was wrong, all these people. Recorded history is wrong.
Speaker 5: And I mean the other the other option is that
Speaker 5: we are just specs of nothing floating around in an
Speaker 5: endless vast nothing that goes on forever, and that you
Speaker 5: are completely insignificant, that you are not God's perfect creation,
Speaker 5: which I think you are.
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't They're not mutually exclusive, you know. Just
Speaker 1: because we are in this vast cosmos that's almost impossible
Speaker 1: for mammal mom to grasp the magnitude of it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that God's not real.
Speaker 5: It's exclusive to people who who believe the Bible word
Speaker 5: for word. I'm not saying I do. Necessarily I am.
Speaker 5: I would be considered apostate, you know, by most, by
Speaker 5: most people.
Speaker 1: I've been reading the Bible a lot, and one of
Speaker 1: the problems that I find is it's clearly got the
Speaker 1: hand of Man on it.
Speaker 5: Well, it's been edited, Yes, it's been edited. You know
Speaker 5: the King James, who was King James, he wrote Bible,
Speaker 5: He wrote books on demon on demons as well, and
Speaker 5: so who was.
Speaker 1: Even the Old Testament? The Old Testament has the hand
Speaker 1: of Man on it. Not just that, but it's also
Speaker 1: been translated so many different times. Like ancient Hebrew the
Speaker 1: letters double as numbers. There's no numbers in ancient Hebrews,
Speaker 1: so words have numerical value to them, and you know,
Speaker 1: imagine translating such a complex language, where like the the
Speaker 1: word God and the word love they have the same
Speaker 1: numerical value. I believe I read here's a thing I've
Speaker 1: read that I don't know if it's true. So let
Speaker 1: me find out that's true. Put that into perplexity.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of weird stuff in the Bible. In
Speaker 5: Genesis when how about the nephil come down and they
Speaker 5: find women comely and so they are like, okay, what's
Speaker 5: actually going on there? These angels or nephelim are coming
Speaker 5: down and they're taking women from men and having sex
Speaker 5: with them and then creating uh, you know, hybrid offspring.
Speaker 1: When Representative Anna Pauline Aluna was here, she told me
Speaker 1: about the Book of Enocly. You have to read that.
Speaker 1: Have you read it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: So I read it.
Speaker 5: Have you seen the Carpenter Son the Nicholas Cage movie.
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: Incredible?
Speaker 1: I just what did I just have you look up
Speaker 1: before I lose my train?
Speaker 4: Thought King James Bible thing?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: That's why I was trying to as specifically, which part
Speaker 2: did you know?
Speaker 1: What I What I asked you was ancient Hebrew. So
Speaker 1: the letters also, that's the money pie is all about,
Speaker 1: and that the word love and the word God have
Speaker 1: the same numerical value. I'm very very certain that that's true,
Speaker 1: but I want to really double the.
Speaker 5: Numerology exists around us everywhere, and you know everything it
Speaker 5: seems to have a kind of And that's what the
Speaker 5: Aronofsky film Pie was kind of all about.
Speaker 1: That that was a great movie. Yeah, there was also
Speaker 1: a very interesting film. A really fascinating statement by this
Speaker 1: mathematician we talked about it on a recent podcast, was
Speaker 1: that how strange is it that we find out that
Speaker 1: the universe is made out of math and that it's
Speaker 1: encoded in the universe itself. So a tool that we
Speaker 1: used that human beings created to measure the universe, it
Speaker 1: turns out that that that tool is how the universe
Speaker 1: is actually encoded.
Speaker 5: Well, this gets back to what Elon is saying about
Speaker 5: the world being a simulation. I mean, what is a simulation?
Speaker 1: So it says no, in ancient Hebrew, whatever that word
Speaker 1: is gametria, no direct name of God shares the exact
Speaker 1: same numerical value as the word for love. So what
Speaker 1: is the basis of that rumor? Sacred name equals twenty six,
Speaker 1: a name for God equals eighty six. Okay, is there
Speaker 1: a word for God? Does that have the same it's
Speaker 1: a name, right, What is the value of Click on
Speaker 1: that below that, below that where it says, what is
Speaker 1: the geometric? How is that word?
Speaker 5: Gematria?
Speaker 1: Primary Jewish missus oh kabbala religious studies to find hidden
Speaker 1: spiritual meanings in sacred texts. Okay, it is fascinating that
Speaker 1: there's numerical value in words like there's no way you're
Speaker 1: going to get that when you translated to Latin. So
Speaker 1: that is a Greek that is a value of eighty six?
Speaker 1: And what is love's value? What is the value? What
Speaker 1: is the ancient Hebrew word for love? What is the
Speaker 1: ancient Hebrew word for love?
Speaker 2: That's gonna that's what you mean by love is going
Speaker 2: to be very you've said you mean like love between
Speaker 2: two people.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is the gemantry that? Yeah, child, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. That's a good point. I have
Speaker 1: different words for it, definitely. So what is that? Click
Speaker 1: on that? What's the gymantry value of evalla? Right there?
Speaker 1: Right there? Yeah, click on that. It's thirteen, So that's
Speaker 1: a different number. Two interesting, thirteen twice equals twenty six.
Speaker 1: The value of yahweh. Yeah, huh.
Speaker 5: This movie The Carpenter's Son is all about the infancy
Speaker 5: of Jesus, and I think has written by Matthew and
Speaker 5: it's part of these uh.
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 5: I may have this wrong, but Coptic texts and it
Speaker 5: is like Cage is so good in this movie.
Speaker 1: So twice thirteen equals twenty six the value of yahweh
Speaker 1: implying love mirrors or completes God, God's essence. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's where that comes.
Speaker 4: From, and that's where it came from.
Speaker 1: Right, that's where it comes from. God is so God
Speaker 1: is love. So love twice is God. So here's here's
Speaker 1: a question. What happened? So the go put I understand,
Speaker 1: I understand, go to ask a follow up? So the
Speaker 1: how was the numerical value of ancient Hebrew language lost
Speaker 1: when they translated it to Latin to Greek? But to
Speaker 1: Greek first? Right, how is the numerical value of ancient
Speaker 1: Hebrew words? Numerical value of ancient Hebrew words lost when
Speaker 1: they translated it to Greek? Because it seems like if
Speaker 1: it's not just context, like what is your word for that?
Speaker 1: Like the word meant a different thing to them, you know,
Speaker 1: the numerical values of ancient Hebrew words calculated via Germatria,
Speaker 1: where letters double as numbers, was not preserved in Greek translations.
Speaker 1: Hebrew letters inherently carry fixed numerical values, enabling words sums.
Speaker 1: Greek letters have their own values equivalents rarely match Hebrew
Speaker 1: sums exactly. So you're gonna lose it, like you know
Speaker 1: when you read like Russian translations of English, or English
Speaker 1: to Russian kids, like super screw.
Speaker 5: For sure, for sure, this is for sure like real
Speaker 5: ancient Spanish. It's incredibly difficult.
Speaker 2: Even all all words mean another number, that all have
Speaker 2: some secret meaning.
Speaker 5: Runic writing from the Nordics is the same thing, and
Speaker 5: there is a striking resemblance between many of the Runes
Speaker 5: with Hebrew. And so these ideas and these glyphs and
Speaker 5: symbols that Odin first saw while hanging upside down from
Speaker 5: the tree and learned language and how to speak are
Speaker 5: somewhat universal across the planet.
Speaker 1: Well's good to that for a second, But let's find
Speaker 1: out what Jamie's saying primarily used in Jewish mysticism and
Speaker 1: religious studies to find hidden spiritual meanings in sacred texts
Speaker 1: like Torah, by assigning numerical values to Hebrew letters and work.
Speaker 3: Isn't it funny that they're talking about this right after
Speaker 3: the bitch from the last episode, Well, she's a nice
Speaker 3: young lady from the last episode. Maybe psychotic, maybe not,
Speaker 3: hopefully not from the last episode was also talking about
Speaker 3: this odin in the tree and all this synchronicity people.
Speaker 1: Words, revealing connections between concepts and exploring the universe underlying structure.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is like, it's an older language, but doesn't
Speaker 1: that seem like a more complex language, a language that
Speaker 1: combines numerical value with words like that, like if you
Speaker 1: said something to me, it's not just implied by your
Speaker 1: tone or by the context of what you're saying that
Speaker 1: I understand what it means to you, but it's in
Speaker 1: the numerical value of the words. That seems like a
Speaker 1: better way to communicate than just nouns and verbs and adverbs,
Speaker 1: like rather than bifurcating yeah, numbers and letters together. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a way better move, I mean, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: It seems like if you can understand that, and if
Speaker 1: you grew up with that, that seems like that would
Speaker 1: be a much richer and deeper way of communicating.
Speaker 5: I like Asimov wrote a book called as im Off
Speaker 5: on Numbers, which is fantastic, which talks about this, and
Speaker 5: he talks about Kalaharry Bushman who have no concept of
Speaker 5: the number zero and how they process and understand concepts
Speaker 5: like you know, when no one is around, you know,
Speaker 5: if the village is empty, and things like that, and
Speaker 5: so you just different people are just trying to figure
Speaker 5: out how to articulate everything. And you know, computer programming
Speaker 5: is a language that utilizes numbers.
Speaker 1: It's weird when there's like certain languages that don't have
Speaker 1: a word for something, so people really grasp they have
Speaker 1: a hard time grasping what the fuck you're trying to say,
Speaker 1: Like what's the translation for this? Like what we don't
Speaker 1: have a word for that.
Speaker 5: We don't we don't understand the concept of empathy.
Speaker 1: But well, there's certain cultures that are like tribal cultures
Speaker 1: that can't understand the concept of maintenance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they don't have it, I've heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird, Like you think about it, like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: why would they need maintenance? Why would they need Maybe
Speaker 1: you live a assistance lifestyle, you live off the land,
Speaker 1: you don't need me, and then suddenly you're thrust into
Speaker 1: the twenty first century and Chinese are building highways for
Speaker 1: you and collapse. Yeah, and the highways is collapse because
Speaker 1: no one's maintaining it. Right, Yeah, it's interesting, but it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting.
Speaker 5: Pulling people out of the Stone Age and dropping them
Speaker 5: into or maybe the Iron Age, or and dropping them
Speaker 5: suddenly in.
Speaker 1: To take this back to this idea that we're missing
Speaker 1: a thousand years, So if we really are missing this
Speaker 1: one that there's two things I want to get I
Speaker 1: want to get to that, and I added, yeah, a
Speaker 1: thousand years. I really want to get to that. And uh,
Speaker 1: well I meant by missing like they don't they don't
Speaker 1: exist in the real world, right, I want to get
Speaker 1: to that, and I want to get to Is there
Speaker 1: a conventional explanation for that stitching? Why that image?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: What is the mainstream that we're.
Speaker 4: Even looking at?
Speaker 2: I don't, right, don't It was not the NASA channel
Speaker 2: we were looking at.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: You know, I can dig down that rabbit.
Speaker 1: What we're we looking at? I don't.
Speaker 4: I've tried to pick up a video of live you.
Speaker 1: Know, the globe imagery that hold on a second, So
Speaker 1: that image might not have been official image. That might
Speaker 1: have been something that someone created.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: Oh well, let me retract so I words aren't taken
Speaker 2: out of context.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it was.
Speaker 2: It seemed like a live video. It was live on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Oh, but it could have been AI.
Speaker 4: I don't know sure who. I have to go back
Speaker 4: to look at the working fast over here.
Speaker 1: No, I get it. I get it, Jamie. You do
Speaker 1: the job of fifteen dudes.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate the video from eleven years ago on
Speaker 2: vimeo that is from SpaceX. So it's not NASA someone else.
Speaker 2: And it's like it's a up and down of the rocket.
Speaker 2: You can argue all day that it's got curvature. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have curvagere When you.
Speaker 5: See a rocket launch, what does it do? It goes
Speaker 5: kind of sideways across the sky and so like we've
Speaker 5: now seen that, you know, pretty regularly, and that's because
Speaker 5: they're really not going above the triposphere, which.
Speaker 1: Well, I watched this. I watched the SpaceX launch live.
Speaker 1: I was there. It went straight up in the air and.
Speaker 5: Then it curves and it travels sideways across the sky.
Speaker 1: Well, it means a certain orbit, and then it traveled
Speaker 1: and dropped off in Australia thirty five minutes later. I
Speaker 1: went out of your hands. No, I watch the entire
Speaker 1: thing from the command center. I watched it from like
Speaker 1: twenty four different cameras. But how high did it go
Speaker 1: above the troposphere? Not likely? Like, this is not about
Speaker 1: the troposphere. This is like how many miles is that up?
Speaker 5: This is low Earth orbit? Where?
Speaker 1: Right? But at low Earth orbit? Jesus Christ, that looks
Speaker 1: like a globe.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 5: But watch as the camera rotates just.
Speaker 4: This is also noted video. I want to get stuck
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 5: Right right like this, as Elon would say, it's real
Speaker 5: because it looks fake, or when it looks fake, that's
Speaker 5: when you know it's real.
Speaker 1: Say that about Bigfoot, then, bitch, because big Foot looks
Speaker 1: fake as fuck and it's definitely not real. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know it's real. That Turkish sharpshooter. That dude was a
Speaker 1: g open the corner press play see what this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be?
Speaker 4: It cuts?
Speaker 1: It cuts? Okay, Oh I see, I see. It's a
Speaker 1: bunch of different So now.
Speaker 5: You can actually see an inversion occurring on the on
Speaker 5: the horizon right, there's a small piece of it, correct,
Speaker 5: But the lens distortion on the side of the frame
Speaker 5: is causing the horizon there to invert. And that's because
Speaker 5: of lens distortion.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 5: If it was, and the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 5: even at the height, even at the height that these
Speaker 5: are orbiting at, and I'm not saying like presuming presuming
Speaker 5: a globular planet. Uh, and even the word planet plane,
Speaker 5: it's like a plane at you know, or the horizon
Speaker 5: is horizontal like uh, even presuming that the height that
Speaker 5: they're at right now, you would still only see, you know,
Speaker 5: a circular Uh, you see the limit of your vision,
Speaker 5: which has a because it's so massive. Yeah, which is
Speaker 5: because it's so massive, you're still high enough. Well, you're
Speaker 5: still not high enough to truly see curvature.
Speaker 1: If we are in a simulation, and if consciousness it
Speaker 1: affects the reality of things, and they are only real
Speaker 1: if we are experiencing them. That's when things get really squirrely.
Speaker 5: The testimony of your eyes, like I know that I
Speaker 5: am here right now, not.
Speaker 1: Just the testimony of your eyes, but your consciousness interacting
Speaker 1: with reality is what creates it correct. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's where things get super st How.
Speaker 5: Do you know gravity exists? For example?
Speaker 1: Well, gravity is not clearly defined, correct.
Speaker 5: We have as gravity is a concept and it's a
Speaker 5: non truly non provable concept because you can prove the
Speaker 5: exact same thing through density and buoyancy. You know, the
Speaker 5: density and buoyancy, you know, make a lot of how
Speaker 5: come the oceans uh, you know react to the way
Speaker 5: they do, and you know it's it's uh, it's not
Speaker 5: necessarily provable, but it's believable. You come to a certain
Speaker 5: point where you're like, okay, faith takes over at this point,
Speaker 5: my faith in that in gravity, my faith in the globe,
Speaker 5: because that's what's been told to me since I was
Speaker 5: a baby. At a certain point, that just takes over
Speaker 5: and you's not that and you accept that as a
Speaker 5: fundamental told piece of what reality is. Because we want
Speaker 5: to believe we understand the universe. What I'm saying is
Speaker 5: we don't understand jack shit about the universe. We don't
Speaker 5: know anything, and all we do is we believe what
Speaker 5: they tell us, and they is just the cumulative understanding
Speaker 5: of how things are. But in ancient times they had
Speaker 5: a different understanding of things, and that was how it
Speaker 5: was back then, and so because they had no other
Speaker 5: way to describe it.
Speaker 1: Right, But even then the reality is just built things
Speaker 1: based on where the Sun was going to be during
Speaker 1: the solar equinox. They also were aware of the procession
Speaker 1: of the equinoxes, which is the wobble of Earth's orbit.
Speaker 1: So Earth spinning around doesn't spin perfectly. There is a
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand year wobble, and you could predict it
Speaker 1: by the night sky.
Speaker 5: Somehow Polaris remains centered in the sky and all stars
Speaker 5: rotate around it. That's extraordinary if we're traveling.
Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean, So during the procession of
Speaker 1: the equinoxes over a twenty six thousand year cycle, Polaris
Speaker 1: no just it has.
Speaker 5: Remained Supposedly, that's because that's where we're flying towards as
Speaker 5: a as a solar system. As we travel through the
Speaker 5: galaxy in this conte dance.
Speaker 1: Of the equinoxes, this wobble over a twenty six thousand
Speaker 1: year period, it will move in the sky.
Speaker 5: Well, the point of Polaris will always remain where it
Speaker 5: is directly the.
Speaker 1: Point, but a respective of it will will vary depending
Speaker 1: upon where we are in this twenty six thousand.
Speaker 5: Year cycle, it undergoes a kind of a number of
Speaker 5: a kind of motion of sorts.
Speaker 1: It changes a figure eight, it changes, it changes. Look
Speaker 1: at it says, right here do the twenty six thousand
Speaker 1: year axial procession cycle. The north star changes over millennia.
Speaker 1: While Polaris is the current north star, other stars have
Speaker 1: held this position, including Thubam three thousand BC, and future
Speaker 1: stars will include a Rye, alder Main, Duman, Alderman, and Vega.
Speaker 1: So it's not the same star, it's just what is
Speaker 1: dependent upon where we are in the procession of the equinoxes.
Speaker 1: That's why they're not that the Earth is fly But
Speaker 1: it's not just that we know where they've They've been
Speaker 1: able to accurately predict the motion of the procession of
Speaker 1: the equinoxes based on the constellations, which are clearly mapped out.
Speaker 1: So we understand this wobble, and this wobble may be
Speaker 1: responsible for cycles of Earth's climate. How things change and
Speaker 1: be dependent upon where the equator sits.
Speaker 3: And listen. I don't know if you agree with Joe
Speaker 3: or not, but you know where I stand on it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna spare you some of this part of the conversation.
Speaker 3: We're gonna skip ahead.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's some ship Jamie randomly pulled offline. That was weird, though,
Speaker 1: and that's perfect for this world that we live in
Speaker 1: to have sort of a glitch like that.
Speaker 5: That's kind of what I'm putting at is there's so much,
Speaker 5: There is so much out there that it just realized
Speaker 5: it falls to faith. And also what does it really matter?
Speaker 5: That's kind of what I'm getting at ultimately, is what
Speaker 5: does all of that really matter? What does it matter
Speaker 5: to anybody that there's a cabal of eight thousand plus
Speaker 5: people who are secretly controlling the world and doing occultism
Speaker 5: and drinking baby blood? What is it? As long as
Speaker 5: you can have very daily pint.
Speaker 1: This is a very different subject. Now we've shifted. You've
Speaker 1: moved away from the concept of the earth being flat,
Speaker 1: and it's a giant lie that's promoted by a huge
Speaker 1: group of people that aren't even connected in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. Too evil people that are involved in
Speaker 1: cult like Ritual's, which has, by the way, always existed.
Speaker 1: And this is why it's very difficult for people to
Speaker 1: imagine today that some of the things that you're hearing
Speaker 1: from the Epstein files, like the potential that they were
Speaker 1: eating children or killing children, or that they use that
Speaker 1: sulphuric acid to boil bodies. We don't want to believe
Speaker 1: in evil that is that deep. But in my opinion,
Speaker 1: if you can find out that evil is real, right,
Speaker 1: evil most certainly is real. There's evil acts that we
Speaker 1: have documented all throughout the world. There's evil that the
Speaker 1: cartel does. I just watched a video where the cartel
Speaker 1: chopped this guy's head off and put it on a
Speaker 1: drone and flew it over to where the other cartel
Speaker 1: was having a good time. That's clearly evil. There's plenty
Speaker 1: of demons. I believe in the concept of demons. I mean,
Speaker 1: demons have don't.
Speaker 5: Don't materialize before us necessarily. They rest upon the shoulders
Speaker 5: of men and whisper into their ears. I believe people
Speaker 5: do evil things.
Speaker 1: This is what I believe. I believe that if I
Speaker 1: was a demon, or if there if demons were real,
Speaker 1: they would get people to do things which are verifiably
Speaker 1: true that they have done. If if you were, if
Speaker 1: you were a demonic idea and you got into Oppenheimer's
Speaker 1: head or patent's head or anyways, and you wanted them
Speaker 1: to do something horrific to a bunch of innocent people,
Speaker 1: and you could say, this is because we're at war,
Speaker 1: so we're going to drop a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima.
Speaker 1: Like that's a demonic act. It's a demonic act of
Speaker 1: eliminating hundreds of thousands or one hundred thousand plus people
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth who did nothing. They're
Speaker 1: just citizens that are unfortunately involved in a country that
Speaker 1: is in a conflict with some people that they don't
Speaker 1: even know, and then they just got vaporized like that.
Speaker 1: That seems demonic. You've just expired.
Speaker 5: But there are people who would argue souls, there are
Speaker 5: people who would argue that the war would have continued.
Speaker 5: I've heard this argument. I've heard that argument too, that
Speaker 5: the war would have continued and so many more would
Speaker 5: have died.
Speaker 1: Well, if I was a demon, I would want to
Speaker 1: propagate that idea. I would want you to think that
Speaker 1: you have to do it.
Speaker 5: And so like is is evil justification of things?
Speaker 1: Certainly, if if you wanted to find a way where
Speaker 1: a demon like just like assume that demons are real,
Speaker 1: how would demon's best be able to enact demonic things
Speaker 1: on earth. Would they do it by saying I'm a
Speaker 1: demon and you know this is this is what you
Speaker 1: should do, and this is this is horrible and evil?
Speaker 1: Or would you creep into someone's head and find justifications
Speaker 1: for doing a demonic thing, like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things like you would create.
Speaker 5: You would creep into someone's head, right, and you would
Speaker 5: you know, you would boil the frog.
Speaker 1: Slowly, like let's imagine this is the AIDS crisis, and
Speaker 1: you know that AZT is killing people, but you also
Speaker 1: but you also know that you are making an insane
Speaker 1: amount of profit off of killing people with AZT, and
Speaker 1: you have already established a narrative, and in fact, you
Speaker 1: said this publicly that the reason why they only describe
Speaker 1: AZT as AZT is the only thing that is both
Speaker 1: safe and effective. He literally used the same language that
Speaker 1: he using this for a long time he has. If
Speaker 1: I wanted, if I was a demon, I'd want to
Speaker 1: get in that guy's head and I'd want to get
Speaker 1: him to keep doing it and say, look how much
Speaker 1: money they're making. You got to keep this money. You
Speaker 1: got to there's a way to justify this. You're the
Speaker 1: purveyor of information. You are the gatekeeper of the truth.
Speaker 1: You just find a way to dance around these numbers.
Speaker 1: You do not know what you are talking about. This
Speaker 1: is not gain of function. I mean just what he
Speaker 1: did there that was evil by by taking a virus,
Speaker 1: funding it even though it was illegal to funded in
Speaker 1: the United States, by doing it through Eco Health Alliance,
Speaker 1: and then you know, farming it out to them. They
Speaker 1: do it at the Wuhan Lab. And you are in
Speaker 1: fact doing gain of function research on a virus designed
Speaker 1: for human beings to make it more deadly and more contagious.
Speaker 1: That's demonic. There's you're not you don't have a cure.
Speaker 5: There was a researcher in Canada at the Manitoba Level
Speaker 5: four Lab, doctor Quee, I think is how you pronounce
Speaker 5: her name. And she was the one who solved ebola.
Speaker 5: Like she had come up with the vaccine for ebola,
Speaker 5: which is manufactured by a California company that is basically
Speaker 5: a Chinese company. And like a rock star, she had
Speaker 5: made a like it was like a hit. She had
Speaker 5: a hit, a huge hit, and just like a rockstar,
Speaker 5: everybody's asking you what comes next? What comes next? And
Speaker 5: so she started actively working, working really really hard at
Speaker 5: coming up with that next thing. And you know, like
Speaker 5: most people, you don't want to stand in line, and
Speaker 5: these level four labs they have to. Whenever you move
Speaker 5: your research from one lab to another, you have to
Speaker 5: go through all sorts of stuff in order to do that,
Speaker 5: because it's all patented. All of these microbes and viruses
Speaker 5: and ebola strains and whatnot, it's all patented. And so,
Speaker 5: for example, there was this one kid who was working
Speaker 5: at the lab in Canada and he was moving I think,
Speaker 5: to the one in Atlanta, and so he was crossing
Speaker 5: the border and he didn't want to, like, you know,
Speaker 5: have to reproduce all of his work, and so he
Speaker 5: just put it into a thermis instead of a thing
Speaker 5: and tried to cross the border and he got caught. Well,
Speaker 5: she got caught in twenty nineteen by the Royal Canadian
Speaker 5: Mounted Police basically moving stuff from Canada Air Canada Freight
Speaker 5: from Manitoba from Winnipeg this is the Winnipeg Lab to
Speaker 5: Wuhan and they were moving everything and I tracked where
Speaker 5: those where because I was writing a screenplay about it,
Speaker 5: and so I tracked, like where did that come from? Well,
Speaker 5: it's like the cutter or maybe it was Abu Dhabi,
Speaker 5: I can't remember the lab there and then that went
Speaker 5: through in order to get around it got sent to
Speaker 5: the one in Amsterdam and that got sent to her
Speaker 5: and she was able to do all this stuff and
Speaker 5: she was basically just shipping you know, everything Hanta and
Speaker 5: all these patented things to Wuhan, you know, in order
Speaker 5: to do it. And the Royal Canadian Mounted Police basically
Speaker 5: you know, stopped it and she got like walked out
Speaker 5: of the laboratory and everything because they were like, is
Speaker 5: there a misappropriation of money going on here? Like what
Speaker 5: are all these flights that are occurring? And they redacted
Speaker 5: who her financer was, and we still don't know who
Speaker 5: her financer was, but it's one of three people and
Speaker 5: it's the people you probably can guess, you know, these
Speaker 5: people who have an interest in.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 5: And but her thing was just ambition. It was just
Speaker 5: like anybody. She was just wanting to have that next
Speaker 5: hit and she would do anything to you know, to
Speaker 5: do it, to repeat what she did with Ebola. So
Speaker 5: she was helping to engineer virus and they were engineering
Speaker 5: stuff and then she would ship them via air Canada
Speaker 5: freight from Winnipeg to directly to Wuhan on literally on
Speaker 5: Air Canada flights. So you're flying on Air Canada to
Speaker 5: Wuhan and down below in cargo there's all this like,
Speaker 5: you know, some shit they left frosy and yeah, some
Speaker 5: horrible strain of something. It's something that's patented and then
Speaker 5: they're just shipping it over to and you know, none
Speaker 5: of this has come out like some papers in Canada,
Speaker 5: you know, like the Winnipeg Free Press or something was
Speaker 5: trying to cover it, but you know, it just gets
Speaker 5: kind of buried.
Speaker 1: That was one of the weird things that I had
Speaker 1: also seen that I don't know if it's true in
Speaker 1: the Epstein files, that there was talk about engineering a pandemic. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: was it, did you?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I read that too. I read that too, that
Speaker 5: they were like actively working on it, like you know,
Speaker 5: running models and figuring it out and you know, well,
Speaker 5: if we do this, then this will happen. And you
Speaker 5: know they were pretty successful at that.
Speaker 1: But why would Epstein be involved if he's a financier.
Speaker 5: He was involved in everything, right, he was involved in everything.
Speaker 5: It was like amazing the energy that that guy had,
Speaker 5: who has the energy to be like doing all this
Speaker 5: stuff like all over the world, and like, oh, in
Speaker 5: Nigeria we're doing this, and then Yemen were doing this,
Speaker 5: and here we're doing that and at the same time
Speaker 5: trafficking all these girls and you know, and young children
Speaker 5: and like.
Speaker 1: All this stuff, right, So the energy to do that,
Speaker 1: it says, no credible evidence in the recently released epstein
Speaker 1: files links Jeffrey epstein Or's associates to engineering. The COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic claim stem from a misinterpreted twenty seventeen email
Speaker 1: referencing routine pandemic preparedness discussions, not a plot. So what
Speaker 1: was the claim? The original claim?
Speaker 4: Good, I had ask it about COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: All right, you just asked it about engineering a pandemic.
Speaker 1: So what is the pandemic claims? Scroll up lists, I
Speaker 1: agre read that.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 1: Scroll down a little there it goes. So twenty seventeen email,
Speaker 1: originally from twenty fifteen discussions to bill widely assumed to
Speaker 1: be Gates, forwarded to proposed recommendations and technical specifications for
Speaker 1: pandemic modeling of various strains. It focused on healthcare data
Speaker 1: simulations for preparedness and neurotechnology, not creating or engineering a virus.
Speaker 1: Gates Foundation later ran Public Event two thousand and one
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, a standard exercise with John Hopkins and
Speaker 1: who pre dating COVID reports that whole Public Event two
Speaker 1: thousand and one is fucking weird. Event two thousand and
Speaker 1: one is weird. Contexts in debunking pandemic simulations are common
Speaker 1: public health tools for the like those for stars or fluid. Right,
Speaker 1: but why is Jeffrey Epstein involved in these discussions?
Speaker 5: Involved in everything? He's involved in gravity?
Speaker 1: But how fucking weird is that? How weird a pandemic?
Speaker 1: A pandemic was reportedly mentioned in the Epstein files.
Speaker 5: Running the Worry years, running the world, Well, this is
Speaker 5: what my friend and creating the illusion. In the meantime,
Speaker 5: Gilene Maxwell is running the Reddit forum on world News
Speaker 5: like she's literally shaping the world news reddit for him,
Speaker 5: read it for him.
Speaker 1: She was, she was running the world News.
Speaker 5: Yeah she was, and it all went dark the minute
Speaker 5: she got picked up her person But she was like
Speaker 5: the the main contributor, did thousands of posts like all
Speaker 5: day long, posting world news, shaping our perception of things.
Speaker 1: One email was a subject preparing for pandemics was sent
Speaker 1: by a person whose name was redacted.
Speaker 5: By the way, the did you see that?
Speaker 1: Why would they redact the person who sent that. That's
Speaker 1: not a victim, you're supposed to redact.
Speaker 5: I think they just they did, like supposedly they just
Speaker 5: did massive redacting. But sometimes you can see like, oh,
Speaker 5: the name is short, it's probably Bill, and then the
Speaker 5: one that comes after that, if it's a little longer,
Speaker 5: it might be Clinton, and it's a little shorter, it
Speaker 5: might Gates. You know, like you can kind of but
Speaker 5: again that's just you know, it's like there's no found
Speaker 5: it's like plausible deniability until until they release all these names.
Speaker 5: Did you notice that Jeffrey Epstein's Fortnite account suddenly became
Speaker 5: active in Tel Aviv and that somebody is playing under
Speaker 5: his right after his supposed death, suddenly he's playing Fortnite again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't even have the decency to make a
Speaker 1: new account.
Speaker 5: Well, it wants to keep all of his like you know,
Speaker 5: stats stabs wants to keep all that stuff, and he's
Speaker 5: safe in uh, you know, in another country.
Speaker 1: So do you think they just like did those That's
Speaker 1: another thing. There was another Reddit thread about some guy
Speaker 1: who said that he was a guard.
Speaker 5: It was a four Chan It was a fortune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a four Chan thread where this
Speaker 1: guy said that he was a guard at the facility
Speaker 1: and he posted this before Epstein was killed.
Speaker 5: He was a guard. They uncovered using whatever way they did,
Speaker 5: but using records or whatever from fortune, they discovered he
Speaker 5: was a guard and he was like a legit guy.
Speaker 5: He got caught basically talking about it. That they snuck
Speaker 5: They used a decoy body. There was an unscheduled ambulance
Speaker 5: arrival that night. They never logged in, and you're always
Speaker 5: supposed to log in. There's footage of like, you know, orange,
Speaker 5: people in orange moving through the facility on the just
Speaker 5: glimpses of it.
Speaker 1: So you live somewhere.
Speaker 5: It's it's not possible, it's not impossible. It's probable. Also,
Speaker 5: didn't it's a probability. It made whatever it was more
Speaker 5: than a possibility. The guy who did the autopsy, did
Speaker 5: anything happen to him, the guy who he committed suicide, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That would be fucking crazy because that happened to the
Speaker 1: guy who did the autopsy on Andrew Breitbart. Didn't he
Speaker 1: wind up dying shortly after that, like Andrew Breitbart, Yes,
Speaker 1: and who's the guy who said the Podesta.
Speaker 5: Alarming amount of people commit suicide?
Speaker 1: Alarming?
Speaker 5: Who are doing this stuff or die to do so? Yeah,
Speaker 5: suddenly they do it. I got only jail who committed suicide,
Speaker 5: and they didn't commit suicide. They got killed by their selly.
Speaker 5: Nobody bothered checking in on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. The guy who did the autopsy
Speaker 1: for Jeffrey Epstein, did anything happen to him?
Speaker 2: A woman, Chief New York Chief Medical Examiner, doctor Gerba Samson.
Speaker 4: And she just resigned a couple a year ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, so nothing happened to her.
Speaker 5: You're talking about evil, you know who the devil was
Speaker 5: in The Exorcist who Uh Well, they say it's like
Speaker 5: Pazuzu and we're presented with an actual devil. But when
Speaker 5: you actually watch the movie, there's kind of evidence that uh,
Speaker 5: and and people have talked about this that you know,
Speaker 5: there's evidence within the film that, uh, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: more than just demonic possession, that the demonic posession comes
Speaker 5: from some places. And by the way, Jeffrey Epstein was
Speaker 5: doing also funding research in how trauma affects like clairvoyance
Speaker 5: and telepathy and things like that, how you're able to
Speaker 5: invoke those out of traumatic, out of trauma. And in
Speaker 5: the Exorcist there's you know, you have Reagan, who's Linda Blair,
Speaker 5: and there's that party scene. You remember in the Exercist,
Speaker 5: they're making a movie within the movie, you know, they're
Speaker 5: they're actually shooting a movie. The character of the mother
Speaker 5: is she's acting in a film inside of the movie,
Speaker 5: and there's a director in that film, and they have
Speaker 5: a big party scene after it, and the director, you know,
Speaker 5: he's he's basically yelling at the butler, her her houseman,
Speaker 5: you know, calling him a Nazi and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and I bet you went bowtling with Gebels and things
Speaker 5: like that. Well, for a while, he vanishes from the party,
Speaker 5: and we later see like Reagan afterwards, like completely flipped out,
Speaker 5: like laying in bed, and then after that she comes
Speaker 5: and then he's leaving the party and he turns to
Speaker 5: the mother and he's like, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you something.
Speaker 5: Fuck it, and he leaves and so and then after that,
Speaker 5: Reagan comes down and she looks to the astronaut guy
Speaker 5: and says, you're going to die up there, and then
Speaker 5: she pisses on the floor and everybody's like shit. And
Speaker 5: from that moment on there's all this like a highly
Speaker 5: sexualized devil speaking through her with a British accent. And
Speaker 5: the guy, the director is a British guy, and so
Speaker 5: the implication and then he is for some reason left
Speaker 5: with Reagan and then gets thrown out of the balcony,
Speaker 5: in his head is twisted all the way around and
Speaker 5: he dies as a character. So the implication is that
Speaker 5: the director is the one who has raped Reagan and
Speaker 5: thus invoking this demonic presence into her. And it turns
Speaker 5: out that I thought it was some totem that they
Speaker 5: found and it was possessed there. All of that stuff
Speaker 5: is there, the wija board is there and everything. But
Speaker 5: it turns out that William Peter Blattie actually made a
Speaker 5: movie called John Goldfrapp Your Life is blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: I can't remember the exact title of the film. And
Speaker 5: he made that movie with Shirley maclain. And the director
Speaker 5: of the film is this guy, jay Lee Thompson, British
Speaker 5: director who looks exactly like the actor in that And
Speaker 5: so the idea is that Reagan's mother is Shirley maclain
Speaker 5: and Reagan is her daughter Sasha, and the British director
Speaker 5: is Jaylee Thompson. And when you start looking at his movies,
Speaker 5: they're a little strange. You know, there's like, you know,
Speaker 5: he directed the original Cape Fear, which has a kind
Speaker 5: of strange pedophilic thing going on in.
Speaker 1: The second one.
Speaker 5: And yeah, they yeah, they all do, and then especially
Speaker 5: they amplify it in the second one. Did this movie
Speaker 5: Kinta with Bronson, and that all has kind of like
Speaker 5: a weird pedophix thing. He did this movie, The Reincarnation
Speaker 5: of Peter Proud, where Peter Proud dies and then or
Speaker 5: rather Peter Proud remembers his reincarnation. He remembers his iteration
Speaker 5: of his other self who was murdered, and then he
Speaker 5: hunts down the woman who maybe did it and then
Speaker 5: starts sleeping with her daughter, which is basically sleeping with
Speaker 5: his daughter because he's reincarnated. So this guy as a
Speaker 5: filmmaker has done all and so the question and so
Speaker 5: William Peter Bladdie worked on that film, was Shirley MacLean
Speaker 5: and shortly thereafter wrote the book The Exorcist and Sasha
Speaker 5: in her you know, autobiography even mentions, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: the person on the cover of the book looked a
Speaker 5: lot like me. And everybody's saying, oh, it's just a coincidence.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, while I never walked down the
Speaker 5: stairs on all fours and I never vomited you know,
Speaker 5: pea soup or whatever, that none of that ever happened
Speaker 5: to me. But there's a pretty dark implication behind the
Speaker 5: whole film. And I brought it up with William friedkin, Hey,
Speaker 5: is this meant to be? Jayley Thompson did this? Like,
Speaker 5: is this a way to talk about that that actually happened,
Speaker 5: you know in real life? He said, I cannot talk
Speaker 5: about that, but I'm not saying you're wrong. Whoa And so,
Speaker 5: you know, and there's actually a moment where Reagan is
Speaker 5: talking to her mother and she's like, well, do you
Speaker 5: like him? Do you like him like you like daddy?
Speaker 5: And so there's this idea that he's been coming over
Speaker 5: and they've been having this affair. And then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden she says to her daughter, and it kind
Speaker 5: of jumped out at me when I rewatched it. She
Speaker 5: says to her daughter, well, I like pizza, but I
Speaker 5: wouldn't marry one, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: there's like a pizza reference, like in the middle of this,
Speaker 5: in the middle of everything that's happened.
Speaker 1: How low is that?
Speaker 5: Periola?
Speaker 1: But Ben Swan brought up during the whole Pizzagate thing
Speaker 1: that got him fired.
Speaker 3: And of course, another very interesting aspect of this is
Speaker 3: that Qubrick was supposed to be the original director before
Speaker 3: they got Friedkin blow in my mind here people, Hello,
Speaker 3: totally blowing my fucking mind. You'll never look at The
Speaker 3: Exorcist the same.
Speaker 1: But how long has the term pizza been used?
Speaker 5: Well, it jumped out at me. And The Exorcist is
Speaker 5: in the early seventies, and so what is it nineteen
Speaker 5: seventy one and that movie that he did with Shirley McLain,
Speaker 5: who is effectively that's the movie that they're shooting inside
Speaker 5: of the movie. And so this was a way for
Speaker 5: Peter Benchley, I mean not Peter Benchley, William Peter Bladie
Speaker 5: to kind of transcode all of that and the ass
Speaker 5: In the film, Shirley McClain talks about the I can't
Speaker 5: remember who was her husband or boyfriend that she remarried
Speaker 5: who was an astronaut, and in her autobiography she talks
Speaker 5: about how he was cloned. He came back from space
Speaker 5: and a different person that he was cloned, and she
Speaker 5: kind of everybody kind of laughed it off, like, Oh,
Speaker 5: it was just kind of a joke that I wrote
Speaker 5: into my autobiography.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of weird, real word.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really strange. So people speak through movies and
Speaker 5: they hide information in films, and so I think some
Speaker 5: more than others, Right, Yeah, William Peter Bladie kind of
Speaker 5: who was doing all sorts of WIJA stuff with Sherley McLain,
Speaker 5: who was really into that kind of thing back in
Speaker 5: the city in the late sixties and early seventies. And
Speaker 5: you know, he sits down to write his book and
Speaker 5: what's he writing about. Well, he's writing that movie's about
Speaker 5: Shirley mclin, her daughter, her daughter, Sasha Sachi. I'm sorry, Sachi,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, the astronaut and you know it's
Speaker 5: all and Jaylee Thompson, who basically he eviscerates within the film,
Speaker 5: but in a way that nobody really connects it. It
Speaker 5: all happens off camera, but the implication is that she
Speaker 5: was raped by that director, and from and from that
Speaker 5: moment on has a kind of you know, she's speaking
Speaker 5: with a British accent as the devil. It's his voice, actually,
Speaker 5: that's coming out of her. She's talking about, you know, being.
Speaker 1: It's raped by a crucifix. That actor. That's his voice.
Speaker 5: So we're saying, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 5: the voice of I think his name is McGowan, and
Speaker 5: he was He died like shortly after the film was made.
Speaker 5: Also shortly after The Exorcist was made.
Speaker 1: Well, we know that people have been coded very bizarre things.
Speaker 1: What kubric was famous for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the Kubrick. Everybody does it. I do it,
Speaker 5: everybody does it. I mean motion pictures are a kind
Speaker 5: of magic spell. And you know when you write, your
Speaker 5: hearing I hear voices and they come through me and
Speaker 5: they land on the page, and I don't know where
Speaker 5: they come from, but it is it is a kind
Speaker 5: of invite to possession and that these things come into
Speaker 5: you and that you put it on the page and
Speaker 5: then you make this movie. And everybody, like I said,
Speaker 5: sits in a theater in the dark and watching a
Speaker 5: flicker of this thing, and it's telling you both our
Speaker 5: myths and traditions, but it's also predictive programming everybody. And
Speaker 5: so Jesus, dude, have you seen.
Speaker 1: Have I seen what? Well?
Speaker 5: Actually, I was thinking about like that where the Daily
Speaker 5: Wire thing. But you know, media comes from a lot
Speaker 5: of different places. Now, you know, you don't know where
Speaker 5: you're going to find your next entertainment. And there's this
Speaker 5: show that I really liked, that show Rome. Did you
Speaker 5: see Rome?
Speaker 1: No? I never saw it?
Speaker 5: Okay, I loved Rome.
Speaker 1: It was I watched the first episode and I thought
Speaker 1: it was flat.
Speaker 5: I love it because it told me the story of
Speaker 5: ancient Rome through you know, through Shakespeare and through history
Speaker 5: and through Plato and you know, all these kind of
Speaker 5: ideas of ancient Rome or Socrates and all these ideas
Speaker 5: of ancient Rome. And then it told a very ground
Speaker 5: level story from the perspective of like handmaidens and centurions
Speaker 5: and still has Mark Anthony and Cleopatra and everything going
Speaker 5: on in it, but it tells a very you know,
Speaker 5: soap opera like drama through it. And so there was
Speaker 5: this other show and it had been out like three
Speaker 5: seasons when I started watching it, and it did the
Speaker 5: exact same thing, nobody had ever liked, nobody was talking
Speaker 5: about it, nobody had ever heard about it. Most people
Speaker 5: don't even know about it. It's the chosen Do you
Speaker 5: know this show?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 5: It does the exact same thing, but it does it
Speaker 5: with the Gospels, and it's all about Christ. And it's
Speaker 5: like a low budget or it was low budget, crowdfunded
Speaker 5: story of Jesus and it just basically like Rome tells
Speaker 5: this historical tale and about Jesus. And Okay, so I'm
Speaker 5: watching them. I've seen every movie about Jesus ever made.
Speaker 5: I've seen King of Kings, both versions. I've seen, you know,
Speaker 5: the Zephyrrelli film. I've seen lass Temptation of Christ. I've
Speaker 5: seen the Passion of the Christ. I've seen all of them.
Speaker 5: I've seen the Jeremy Sisto Jesus movie. I've seen everything.
Speaker 5: I worked with Paul Verhoven on his Jesus film that
Speaker 5: was unproduced, and so like, I've had a lot of experience,
Speaker 5: and I never ever really got it, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 5: I never really understood the story this show. I started
Speaker 5: watching it, I was like, Okay, I've got a chip
Speaker 5: on my shoulder, let's see, and it's really cheap. It's
Speaker 5: like rocks are made out of styrofoam. They can't afford
Speaker 5: a you know, a house, and so they just use
Speaker 5: blankets and a gourd hanging, and so it's like it's
Speaker 5: really really inexpensive. And the script is even a little
Speaker 5: bit contemporary, and which almost becomes like a joke as
Speaker 5: you're watching it. It's kind of funny. But lo and behold,
Speaker 5: I'm watching it. And there came a moment by about
Speaker 5: episode three where it was like, ding, I get it.
Speaker 5: Like Jesus is kind of punk rock's he's basically saying
Speaker 5: there are no rules to anything, like you know, you
Speaker 5: can commit miracles on the sabbath. You know, there are
Speaker 5: no rules anybody has led. All you need to be
Speaker 5: is wanting of salvation. And it was like a third
Speaker 5: eye opened.
Speaker 1: Up to me.
Speaker 5: And this show is fantastic and it breaks all the rules.
Speaker 5: It's outside of the Pharisees of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The one guy, this guy Dallas Jenkins, who's absolutely my
Speaker 5: favorite modern filmmaker right now. I think this guy's brilliant.
Speaker 5: He's directed every single episode of this show, and they've
Speaker 5: got like se seasons out and you can watch it
Speaker 5: for free. It's on anything, like if you have an
Speaker 5: Apple TV, you can just look up there the chosen
Speaker 5: app and boop up comes the Chosen app.
Speaker 1: And so it's an app thing.
Speaker 5: Or you can watch it on YouTube, or you can
Speaker 5: watch it. I think Netflix eventually, I think it was
Speaker 5: Netflix eventually bought it. Now they're showing it basically, you
Speaker 5: can see it anywhere. They give it away the way
Speaker 5: the Gideons give away the Bible and you know it.
Speaker 5: I thought it was fantastic, and then season two came
Speaker 5: around and suddenly they had all this money and they're
Speaker 5: doing all these like you know, they've got this ancient
Speaker 5: Judea set with cobblestone streets and you know, like this
Speaker 5: detailed set and Roman colonnades and stuff like that. And
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, like they really got a big budget.
Speaker 5: Then I looked it up and I was like, oh no,
Speaker 5: they're using The Mormons have all these standing sets for
Speaker 5: their biblical productions in Utah, and they're incredible. These sets
Speaker 5: are unbelievable. If I had known, it's like China Cheetah
Speaker 5: in Utah, It's it's absolutely fantastic and the characters are
Speaker 5: like they only have money for like three romans costumes probably,
Speaker 5: and so they're kind of like making do with what
Speaker 5: they have. But they've got this guy playing the legate
Speaker 5: there who is hilarious. He's in the first season. He
Speaker 5: is absolutely hilarious, and the show is great. And then,
Speaker 5: like proper television, you're watching it and you're starting to
Speaker 5: love these characters and you're starting to like it's and
Speaker 5: it's you know what it is. The bread and butter
Speaker 5: of Hollywood is revenge and wrath, Like that's what makes
Speaker 5: that's the fuel that pushes most Hollywood movies. It is
Speaker 5: much more difficult and requires much more maturity to make
Speaker 5: a movie about forgiveness. And this kid, Dallas Jenkins, I
Speaker 5: call him a kid, but he's not a kid. That's
Speaker 5: an insult. He's uh, he's super great. He is making
Speaker 5: every single episode is effectively because it's the Gospels about forgiveness.
Speaker 5: And he has done this magnificent, unbl vable achievement and
Speaker 5: the show is huge. Now they've got like seven seasons.
Speaker 5: They've built a studio, you know, like outside of Dallas
Speaker 5: Fort Worth on a Salvation Army property that they've built
Speaker 5: the sound stages and everything, and it is and like
Speaker 5: and that's like you can get it anywhere, you can
Speaker 5: watch it anywhere, And they're making programming that should have
Speaker 5: been on HBO. It should have been produced by HBO
Speaker 5: the way Rome was, and instead it's just it's coming
Speaker 5: out of the ether. And it's almost like with the
Speaker 5: inattention given to you know, most modern or rather the
Speaker 5: way that people are making things that they're focused on
Speaker 5: wrath and revenge, like this other thing like the Pendragon
Speaker 5: Cycle and The Chosen have kind of risen out of
Speaker 5: out of the vacuum that those other that the studios
Speaker 5: have and broadcasters have kind of created because they're not
Speaker 5: no longer making that kind of product, at least not
Speaker 5: as much. And so I think this is actually one
Speaker 5: of the most exciting times in media and television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think it's a very unusual time where
Speaker 1: the normal people.
Speaker 3: Definitely unusual for Joe Rogan to be the h what
Speaker 3: would you call him? People really look up to him
Speaker 3: for like conspiracy stuff. He's the like I said, he's
Speaker 3: like the Laurel Canyon guy of the podcasting. My sister
Speaker 3: told me to watch The Chosen a million times and
Speaker 3: I told her I would, and I just never have.
Speaker 3: Now I really want to watch it, but I thought
Speaker 3: you would enjoy this interview. Finally a guy who's on
Speaker 3: our team, who knows what the fuck he's talking about.
Speaker 3: And you know, just looking at this right now, Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan has twenty point seven million subscribers, so this is
Speaker 3: getting out there to people's ears that you know, may
Speaker 3: have not heard it otherwise or given a shit, as
Speaker 3: he was talking about at the beginning of this episode.
Speaker 3: But wow, lots of fucking interesting conversation. I thought you'd
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I did almost broke out the cheetos again,
Speaker 3: but thanks for sticking around to the end. You guys
Speaker 3: are awesome. I love all of you. I hope you're
Speaker 3: having a fabulous day. And we got some more interesting
Speaker 3: stuff in the works. We're gonna keep on the old
Speaker 3: satanic pedo b hole train, and until then, I'll catch
Speaker 3: you on the next one.
Speaker 6: Go said about the fool don't see trying hard to recreate,
Speaker 6: forget yet to be created?
Speaker 2: What's in her life?
Speaker 5: She musters, all smile for his nostalgic turn. Never come
Speaker 5: in there, what you wanted to say?
Speaker 1: Or did you realize?
Speaker 6: He never really was.
Speaker 4: She lot of basting life.
Speaker 6: As he rises through her quality, everybody asks what you
Speaker 6: know
Speaker 1: He's got you wor go