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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's sensible to characterize it as such.
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?
Speaker 3: I refer to Hannah or rent a Lot, I mean
I cite her a lot as one of my sources.
I mean, she was an important historian, and she was
an akolata Heidegger, and she wrote specifically about the historical
experience of Jewish and European hostility. And that's important because
it's not something people understand. And unfortunately, I mean I don't,
I honestly don't understand where people get their ideas through them.
I guess maybe they think internet memes constitute some sort
of education on things.
Speaker 1: Or oh, you know, you don't even have to guess that.
I've had people tell me, like when I was a
libertarian and I would talk about, you know, narco capitalism.
How do people tell me? Everything I know I'm in
a narco capitalists and everything I know about an arco
capitalist I learned from memes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, just like the terminology to invoke,
it's this weird polemical stuff that doesn't really have a context,
and you know, which is like whatever, I don't I
prefer people like that didn't have the capability to poison
our conversations. But you know, it's something, Uh, it's something
that's ill understood, and uh, it's not reducible the subject matter.
I mean, it's not reducible to polemic or things like that.
And you can't, I regard, regardless of what's pathological or
dysfunctional about you know, telemunic judaism. You can't project current
political conditions into the distant past as if that this
is just some sort of structural schema that's always existed.
And the reason why things became so anybody became so
violent in the twentieth century is because there was a
there was issues of first impression emergent from a structure
that was now you know, one of our Ren's big
points is that, first of all, the Third Reich was
not at all in nationalist government. In some ways, it
was the opposite. They looked at their mandate and their
mission and their ideological imperative as as civilizational you know,
their velt politic was a superpower politique. Hitler was always
talking about how Germany's the actual pivot of Europe and
ge strategic terms, Europe is the air. It's a classical civilization.
And that's what we've got to understand ourselves. Is this
what's Fhali and contrivance that was a mile wide and
a centimeter deep, you know. And I think by the
point before the national socialists, they'd contempt for the narrowness
and nationalism and their early enemies I'm talking like when
Drexler was heading the party, before Hitler even you know,
came on the scene with the DAP, these like region
these regional nationalists were the guys they fight with a
lot of the time because these people were stunted in
their perspective, and that that's not what national socialism or
any of the dominated theological strains that were actually having
an impact in the world affairs, Like like nobody thought
that way anymore. Who was actually engaged, you know. In
the way, the way to understand Jewish power is that
it was kind of the legacy of the balance of
power system in Europe, you know, the slow development of
nation states under kind of the tutelage and domain of
absolute monarchs. You know. One of the ways they kind
of were able to project power across the national frontiers,
especially in the terms of fluid capital espuch as existed
then was through Jewish financial concerns. And this also of
unofficial means that diplomacy, so such that Jews were kind
of the de facto integrated banking structure of you know,
with Phali in Europe, you know, and to be clear,
that didn't convey any direct political power. As a matter
of law, Jews had no political power, you know, So
when people act like in Cromwell's error or something, Jews
were these bad guys who were sabotaging political events or
engaged in social revolutionary activity. That's acidine Like, whatever hostilities
existed sociologically, it didn't translate to that kind of paradigm
because that wasn't possible. It's just ignorant to suggest otherwise,
you know. And uh, after the French Revolution, the degree
to which everything abruptly changed across the continent, that can't
be overemphasized. You know, among other things, aside the sociological
disruptions and the kind of onthological shock of it, political
power started to become global, you know, in an ascent way,
and the nation states that still existed their concerns became
more and more scaled, and an exponentially larger amount of
capital and credit needed to be placed at a government
or a monarch's disposal, you know, and this caused a consolidation.
These kinds of smaller concern financial concerns were wiped out.
Jews were downwardly mobile during that period, and that radicalized
a lot of them. The combined assets of the wealthiest
strata of Western and Central European Jewry became more and
more consolidated, and then that became a political concern just
because of the power that wielded. And suddenly the fortunes
of that sort of financial structure was no longer abstract
from politics and political events, you know, and there were
certain show points whereby access to that kind of fluid
capital dependent upon you know, political imperatives, and so you
had ambitious men within these remaining Jewish financial concerns who
became who became political actors, you know, in part because
that will was always there and couldn't be realized, and
also partly by necessity, you know. And to be clear,
this is a fairly formalized structure. Long before you know,
a lot of court of storians had this idea, and
even people who have someone of a visionist perspective, they
view the kind of weird interdependence between European monarchs and
aristocrats in Jewry as suddenly after you know, emancipation and
the granting a political rights to people across credle divides.
You know, this was suddenly when Jews started appearing at
European court. That's totally inaccurate. Pretty much every noble house,
every monarch, every royal court, they had some representative of
Jewish financial concerns literally posted at court to handle this
kind of business, you know, and these guys it was
almost always a single individual. It was almost you know,
it was almost always a single man who wasn't tethered
to intrigues by virtual like the woman he was married to.
He almost always had contacts, familial contexts across national frontiers,
and ideally he'd have some sort of in with whoever
the primary rile. The core he served, you know, was
was so engaged and uh, that was kind of the
start of Jewish political power as we think of it,
you know, despite what people think. I mean, yeah, in
the modern era, like post Westphalian peace money, he took
on an outside significance in political life. But this idea
that having money exematically makes you political powerful, politically powerful
is uh that's a non sequator. It doesn't. I mean,
even today, they're they're two different things. There's a an
interdependence there that's natural and financial power and political power.
There's there's an there's incestuous aspects to the human component
of who serves these concerns. But one doesn't somehow translate
to the other automatically, you know. So it's not the
thing of Jews is rich guys like that's not That
doesn't tell us anything. All kinds of people have money,
you know, in terms of control of wealth at scale,
the Japanese and the Saudis control an astronomical amount of money.
The world's not run by Japan and Saudi Arabia, okay,
and that's not an accident. The UH plus production of
commodities at scale, it had this kind of homogenizing effect
on European economies, at least in the West of Europe.
And that changes things too, because if basically every nation
state it's it's national economy, you know, accounting for comparative
advantage as they can be said to exist in microeconomics
is engaged in basically the same kind of business, financial
concerns and financial houses that service them. They basically start
gambling on the same imperatives and futures and outcomes, you know,
And that's got the effect of not just driving up
the cost and doing business, but you know it it
allows for a certain homogenization of how of of how
capital functions at continental scale, you know. And to be
clear too, this is I think I made this point before,
probably not polemically, but going back to the Middle Ages
through the late modern period, this is the big reason
why kings fell out with Jews. It wasn't because Jews
don't like white people and their commies. It was I'm
in a hawk to these people, and the big I'm
paying them is positively usurious, and I think I'll not
pay them and I'll banish them from my kingdom.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's what it came down to, And that is the
effect of you've basically gotta handle your banking needs by
pro through some other friendly government, or you've got to
stake out some sort of path of autarchy and a
crew massive At that time it would have been in
gold and silver reserves and try to go it alone.
This had a profoundly negative effect and your ability to
do business if you did that. Okay, but that's that
was the main catalyst for Jews being banished from the court.
It wasn't people deciding that Jews are bad because I'm
based so I don't want them here anymore. There was
absolutely peasant revolts and programs against Jews that were born
of hostility and Jewish financial and labor concerns abusing those
people that that don't remember sent happened. But at the
level of oils and edict's formally banishing Jews from these territories,
it was what I just said, it was. It wasn't
this fantasy of what people seem to think, and you
can't corral that into some sort of common paradigm with
the current situation or as things have been since you know,
the close of the nineteenth century or whatever. The this
started coming somewhat to an end, at least in you know,
by the time Germany was united, the whole schema of
how national military endeavors were funded. It changed. But in
a lot of Europe this endoor or really until the
Great War, the uh, the the austri the Austro Prussian
War of eighteen sixty six, one of the big banking concerned,
one of the big Prussian Jewish banking concerns was a
bleak Roter, and bleek Roter himself, gersanvan bleek Roter. He
and Bismarck had this fairly tight business relationship. Contemptions of
the may have been otherwise, and uh one of the things, uh,
that sort of solidified their partnership. You know, Bismarck was
not he was not some that the reichs Consler was
not some sort of absolute monarch or something. He had
to appeal the Parliament if he wanted to fund any
kind of military activity. And when the Parliament cut the
purse strings, Bismarck, Uh, he made his case to somewhat
precious traditional allies, and when they weren't biting, he went
to bleak Rot and uh essentially found himself in a
hawk you know, the uh, the the Jewish Berliner, you know,
banking structure. That was the last time that happened at scale.
And this is one thing that's interesting. If you read
the Numberg laws and if you read kind of the
what what if you read like what Gerbel was writing
in his diaries about like what the cadres were saying.
You know, this was a very political act. It was
We're gonna get Jews out of the civil service, We're
gonna get them out of the professions. You know, we're
gonna we're basically gonna strip them of political rights. And
if they try to mobilize, you know, for example, uh,
some KPD cadre and like sick them on our people
in Munich or whatever, we're gonna we're gonna throw them
in a concentration camp. There's no talk of Jews are
not allowed to conduct financial business because at the level
we're talking about, that wasn't really an issue. You know,
It's not like it's not like in Berlin in nineteen
thirty four if I needed a small business loan to
like open my restaurant or to you know by like
building tools my construction firm. It's not like it was
like appealing to some Jewish guy and I had to
basically cowtout whatever he wanted to get, you know, like
some sort of line of equity. And I think people
must understand that, you know, their absolutely Jews actually did,
absolutely did wield financial power, particularly the UK and the USA,
but not in the way we're talking about in you know,
Westphalia and Europe. Sociologically it played out totally differently, you know.
And it was a political problem in the German Reich,
it wasn't. It wasn't an economics problem or or a
banking problem. You know. I'd even argue too. I mean
the case I'm the first to stipulate, you know, a
lot of America's involvement in World War One, they quite
literally was Wall Street having the Wilsondministration by the balls
and demanding interventions. They didn't eat a billion dollar loss
based on this unsecured line of credit was being afforded
to the British Crown. But I mean that was JP
Morgan was absolutely a war profiteering firm, But this wasn't
Jews and manipulating an outcome from Wall Street. JP Morgan
didn't care how how it shook out. They wanted their money,
you know. It so happened that they bet on the
wrong horse, you know. So that's important too. It was
ah and and and again that's an odd case in
the late modern era. I mean, often the things about
the First World War were strained. But that's important too,
say I'm sure the rebuttal is gonna be coming from
some body in the comments insisting that insisting that Wilson
was owned by Jews because JP Morgan wanted its money.
But uh, you know, and this is a you know,
traditionally too, there was sometimes formally, sometimes just de factoh,
these European peace treaties that established national boundaries and rights therein,
and these territorial swaps and everything else that characterized Europe
for centuries. There was pretty much always some sort of
Jewish representation on deck when these things were fleshed out,
and that by the end of the nineteenth century that
basically come to an end, you know. And one of
the rent makes the point too, I mean, aside from
the political structure and the characteristics that derive from that
structure that was emergent as Europe truly entered late modernity,
you know, as wars became totally culminating in World War One,
the metrics became victory or death for waging war. You're
not gonna have You're not gonna have some financial representatives
on deck running unofficial diplomacy with your enemy as to
how we're both gonna kind of make sure our economic
concerns aren't aren't devastated by conflict when you're trying to
annihilate your enemy in absolute capacities, you know, you're trying
to physically annihilate him and his country even occupy it
and then essentially, uh, either rape what remains figuratively and
literally or reconstituted as you know, a kind of destination
market for your manufacturers and financial instruments. Like You're not
You're not gonna have some Jewish banking representative on deck
from the enemy country to like negotiate with your peace.
I mean, that's that's absurd obviously, you know, and that's
important too. Nascent globalism, you know, the the limited globalism
that was emergent by World War One basically precluded that
kind of stuff, you know, So it's it's, uh, it's
ridiculous to talk about the Jewish financial power in the
twentieth and twenty verth centuries is driving from banking. That's
not what it derives from. You know. Interestingly too, I
mean back when during the the Merkel counselorship, you know
when famously when when these Wall Street types, including Goldman Sex,
they're trying to they're basically trying to break the industrial
national economics of the Buddhist Republic, and they approach these
German banking concerns, which were largely goyish and I'm talking
like in the two thousands and uh when they tried
to get this was obviously pre two thousand and eight crash.
Golvin Sachs is trying to get the Germans to sign
on with funding these uh financial instruments and basically put
their you know, integrate retirement funds and welfare outlays with
like four to one k type structures and like and
like the whole like German bank community like laughed in
their face, like we don't invest in derivatives. The Fu's
wrong with you? You know what I mean? Like it's
I mean that speaks for itself. You know that this
is a Germany is literally an occupied country. It's it's
being subjected to ethnic cleansing by social engineering. But the
indigenous financial structure they like laugh at Wall Street when
they try and get him in on these like Shylock, Uh,
you know, con shell games at scale, you know, with
respect to financial derivatives. I mean, frankly, I would have
been surprised for it any other way. I mean now
the the Europeans are literally mentally insane people now, I
mean like you can't they're parently irrational. But uh, you know,
I when uh there was when when when some kind
of basic reason It's still prevailed even in Messtagolan occupation,
you know, I mean that that speaks for itself. That
you know, banking concerns are particularly uh on the side
of financial capital, you know, not commercial banking. Obviously it
was very very discreet from whatever the political situation was
and the political culture was and the duras to this
day because in ah, in some basic sense, you know,
so there was this uh there's a there's this odd
contradiction where on the one hand, this uh, this uh
Jewish diaspora which existed in terms of basic hostility with
indigenous European majorities. The thing that built their power base
was their peculiar insinuation in the financial affairs and life
at court. But what ultimately created this terrible and catastrophic
enmity between the two populations was uh, almost exclusively political
that didn't really have anything to do with with high finance,
you know. And uh this isn't a trivial point or
something that should only give interest to academics, it's actually important.
But moving on, you find at place here, you know,
and this is one of the reasons why in the era,
the era being you know, the nineteen thirties and forties
and then beyond the Cold War, and even today this
pops up in historical discussions. People attack revisionists or people
they perceive as being sympathetic to fascism of history or whatever,
saying like, well, how can how can you quote blame
Jews for revolutionary communism if they're these if they're these
arch capitalists manipulators. I mean, that's a false dichotomy anyway.
But also it's not one or the other. And again
by the twentieth century, you know, other than at great scale,
we're talking about massive fortunes. You know, in these consolidated
financial concerns, Jews really weren't insinuated into finance. Erie Sliskin
makes the point, you know, he's a guy who wrote
the Jewish Century. He's an interesting scholar. You know, obviously,
he's a you know, he's he's descended from pale settlement people,
you know, so it can't be said that he's just
some constitutional anti Semite or something, you know, He's got
an anthropological in the traditional sense, you know, drawing upon
the same kind of methodology as people like Domazil. You know,
he he talks about the Jewish conceptual horizon, how they
view themselves, you know, as a people, and how they
view the world outside themselves, and the prime symbols that
constitute that worldview. You know, he's the he's the guy
who coined the phrase Mercourians to describe the Ashganasm and
Apollonians to describe these European populations that you know are
descended from a warrior yealomenry and I identify with those
kinds of values and things. You know, he very much
borrows in the trifunctional hypothesis. But you know, the Mercurian
view or a cultural perspective or you know orientation, existential orientation.
I'm going to look at it that way. It's not
reducible to a belief in money and the power and
can see of money or something. You know. It's uh,
it's got an emphasis on abstractions as the way of
doing business in lieu of agricultural activities, you know, a
kind of profiteering and negotiation sometimes which is perfectnesce and
a hostile deliberately in lieu of warfare, you know, an
idea of the historical process as a being kind of
related to concrete particulars and intrigues they're in, rather than
you know, a kind of narrative hole that is ah
exists under a you know, the Christian God obviously, you know,
and Stacey makes the point too, or slight scheme makes
the point too. At the turn of the twentieth century,
the total population of European Jewry was about eight zero
point seven million, and over five million of these people
lived in the Russian Empire, where they were about four
or five percent of the population, and most of the
Russian Jews lived in the Pale settlement and residency laws
restricted them there. There were some slim minority who were
farmers or factory workers like scattered about. But you know,
his point was that breaking down these demographic realities, you know,
you're you're not talking about something like cosmopolitan group of people.
You're talking about a really kind of primitive, almost backwards
living people, you know, in majority in terms. You know,
So the idea that these this kind of cultural milew
was giving rise this kind of worldly, uh conspiratorially sophisticated
perspective is kind of nonsense. You're talking about very basic hostility, okay,
from people who mostly were kind of incestuously insular, you know,
and like within that uh, kind of strange existence developing
an increasing and curating, like an increasingly violent hostility to
the world without you know, then that reality seems totally
at odds with the kind of caricature that exists in
people's lines of jewelry, you know. And slim Skin makes
the point too, that this a major component of them
kind of home mercorean conceptual horizon. It's contingent on the
outside world retaining this kind of strangeness, you know. And
the cliche is that you know, you're asking us it's
this paranoiac tendency and not just dislake for outsiders, but
this idea that the outside world's dangerous. You know, that's
very much the source of you know, internal cultural life here.
You know, this this is the opposite of a sophisticated
worldly perspective. You know, it's uh, it's it's incredibly it's
a cultivated ignorance, you know, like it really it really is,
you know, and that that breathes on pathologies too. So
what are the sort of the cultural pole stars and
and and psychological metrics in terms of you know, historical memory.
You know, oh, the Cossacks are are programming us. You know,
there's there's a World War two, is a world conspiracy
against Jews. You know, like this kind of stuff would
be laughable were it not you know, enshrine into this
kind of reigning ideology of uh, you know that that
that oppresses people at scale. You know, if you if
you remove that aspect of it and then the historical
significance of it and the danger of it, you you'd
pity and laugh at people who think that way, you know,
and that you know, to be clear, there's kind of
a naturally built in, almost commissarial structure. Very few people
talk about this. I think it's because a lot of
Americans don't really have a taste for serious theology and
anthropological characteristics that are related therein you know, the degree
to which Jewish society became this sort of fractious remnant
of a once complete cultural paradigm after seventy a d
really can't be overstated. Like this idea of the synagogue
being the center of cultural life and these these rabbinic
scholars well aren't priests. And I'm not sure people really
understand that without a temple, there's no priesthood. Without a
sacrificing priesthood, there is no Judaism as is understood in
biblical terms. But a rabbi is basically he's kind of
one part minister, but he's more almost kind of a
scholar of the law, you know, like a juristic professorial type.
You know, having men like that be kind of the
cultural backbone and in lieu of a temple or a church,
having a synagogue, which is basically which is basically an
academic and political institution, be the center of humanitarian life.
That's very strange, you know, and that's also why that's
also why, uh, the kind of two pole stars of
status among the Ashganaism. We're being a learned man in Judaism,
and again not not a priest and not a and
not a kind of not a you know, like a
learned man in Islam. You know what people are gonna
quot We call him mullah, which is improper for a
lot of reasons. But that's something different too. You're gonna
think of, you know, these guys in places like Iran,
you know, and you find it across the sectarian divide
like sh Arsuni. What kind of aspire to be like
a learned man in Islam? That's kind of a different
thing that's strong almost upon you know, like a tradition
of mystics that's common to a lot of these a
lot of these uh Islamic cultures. Like I'm not I'm
not saying that's a lofty thing to aspire to either,
but it's a different thing. You know. Uh, there's nothing
there's there's there's nothing mystical about a rabbi. There's nothing.
You know, it's uh, like I said, it's fundamentally commissarial,
you know. And uh so that role, you know, being
kind of coveted or like being able to crew money.
You know, that's like however people feel about that and
whether that's you know, moral or not. It's a strange
thing to assign that kind of profound cultural value do
Like most most developed culture is kind of view with
the in terms of the opposite, you know, like, oh,
he's a pious man, he foregoes an interest in you know,
material things for their own sake. You know. So this
is this is all very strange. And again, the way
you understand it is that these tendencies derive from this
self imposed isolation and kind of ignorance of the outside
world and this sort of like incestuous and celerity. It
doesn't derive the kind of like cynical worldiness that comes
from you know, running things and you know, knowing about
the world and being urbane. That's preposterous. It's it's it's
literally the opposite, you know. And this is a and
this is one of the things too, where once that
kind of interdependence that existed between European elites and Jewish elites,
based again on kind of the how politics was done
at court and things like, once that all went away,
you're talking about populations that are situated really as vicious enemies.
And not only was there no longer any sort of
interdependence that insinuated a kind of common objectivity about one another,
if not respect, you know, once that went away, something
horrible was gonna happen. And that's exactly what did happen,
you know. And to be clear too, I don't know
if I got on this before, but like selg Skin
makes the point, you know, most well, most Jews didn't
even speak the languages of the people they lived among,
you know, like Ukrainian Jews spoke Yiddish. They didn't speak
Ukrainian or Russian, you know, if you went to a
if you went to a Jewish village in Latvia, even
when that was situated you know, amids, you know, like
a larger constellation of towns or something. These people didn't
speak Latvian, they didn't eat the same foods, they didn't
go to the same places. They looked at each other
as dirty, you know. And similarly, like unless you were
some sort of linguistic scholar or something, or just by
accident of being immersed in some sort of truly because
it's sort of cosmopolitan and multi racial city like casperg Vienna,
you know, Nanjis didn't speak Yiddish, Like why why would they?
You know, so there was It is possible, in late modernity,
perhaps even especially in late modernity, to literally live next
door to a people and remain totally insular from them.
And I think a lot of people, I mean, that's
one of the reasons why the whole narrative of globalism
a scale fails. I mean that that's starting to fade out.
People don't really You're you're you're finding those kinds of
appeals to you know, moral platitudes and social propaganda that
that's that's becoming less and less common. But this idea
that oh, in the modern uh, under modern conditions, you know,
you live around over kinds of people. It's like yeah,
and people got their face and the screen and like
they hate each other, you know, Like it's not you know,
you're not going out to like work on a farm
with like a you know, all these great people who
work there with you or something or you know, and
increasingly you're not even like you're not even passing Randall's
on the street anymore if you don't want to, you know,
I mean I kind of have to down of a car,
you know. Like But in uh, the uh that agree
to which even prior to information age innovations, you could
entire communities could avoid each other while being situated two
miles apart. I mean, that was the reality. You know,
it's the uh. But that's you know, and that's obviously
this is a bit tangential, but it's related, you know, uh,
and it's particularly on point it needs to be this
kind of ongoing discussion about the reason for this profound
and catastrophic enmity of the regime to Russia that I
mean they agree to which the Astanasm hate the Russians
can't be overstated, you know. And even even when you
read this this kind of yeah van Mishem type propaganda,
like even within their own narrative they say stuff like,
you know, Germany was a civilized and culture land and
you know Jewish per winners, you know, were patriotic Germans.
You know, if we were gonna suffer a horrible program anywhere,
we'd have thought it would be Russia. I mean, Russia
is the enemy to the Ashcanasm, you know. And uh,
I like, uh, you know that piece Stalin's Willing Executioners.
It was originally a it was a paper that Kevin
McDonald drafted, and then he expanded into this not quite
book length essay, but that most of that piece, it's
a review and a breakdown of sleds Keen's book, because
this is a huge aspect of what sleds Keen talks about,
you know, and he fully acknowledges a huge amount of
Jews joined the Cheka and they set about to massacre
their Slavic neighbors. Who they viewed as oppressing them. You know,
they hated these people, and Stalin exploited that, you know,
And I don't know how anybody can look at how
the Soviet the Russian Revolution developed. You literally had the
Jewish population locking and loading, slaughtering these people that they hated,
massacring their priests, destroying their churches, trying to wipe them
out as a culture. And then when these criminal personalities
like Stalin at a kind of the cycle like killing,
it run its course, and after the Second World War
and the emergency wrought by the pass, like what does
Stalin do? He being hanging and purging all of them
because they were too dangerous to allow to survive in
this kind of socialistic empire that derived. It's what you know,
driving its internal cohesion and its legitimacy from this claim
that you know, the Russians are the first among the nationalities.
Like how anybody can look at that and be like
Prutin likes the Jews and Israel in Russia are allies.
I mean, like you're you don't in reality if you
think that way, or I mean, you're so fucking stupid
you probably are at risk of fretting to breathe, you know,
and then dying, you know, to say nothing to the
fact that the Soviet Union was literally at war for
Israel with Israel for decades. The Russians went to war
against Israel again in twenty eleven, and then as zion
As the government was installed in Ukraine, it proceeded to
assault the Russian Federation. Like this isn't esoteric or crazy
stuff that requires a lifetime of study and attention to
subtle nuanced to to understand. Like if you look at
a political map and if you turn on legacy media
programming for five minutes, this is what jumps out at you,
Like even if you're not an intelligent person. You know,
That's why I I just I refuse to engage with
people who say such things anymore because some some things
are too stupid to acknowledge. But that's, you know, that's
that's the long and short of it. I mean, don't
get me wrong, I've got my own theories on geopolitical affairs,
and obviously I'm no environmentalist type of person. But the
reality is that this voracious appetite for consumption and the
conversion of you know, natural racism and commodities in the
in the in the usable value added things this has.
You know, there's a limited caring adacity here. And one
of the reasons America is the loci of world power
is because it's it's it retains, you know, what remains
that what remains the bounty of nature is situated here
and it's being rapidly depleted. The remainder, the other remainder
of the world's natural resources are in Central Asia. You know, oil,
natural gas, arable land, you know, all all these things.
Central Asia, the Russian heartland. It doesn't quite have what
we do here, but it's compared to the rest of
the planet, it's a tremendous wealth of resources. And so
there is that incentive to to break up up the
Russian Federation and be able to access and exploit those things.
You know. I mean that this this goes way back.
So that's that's always a consideration. But that is, this
is far from the primary catalyst for the you know,
adopting an irrational war footing towards the Russian Federation has
happened in nineteen ninety nine and plus two. If that
was the only if that, if that, if that was
the only objective, you will this not that you don't
go about it by waging some irrational crusade against the
Russian Federation and transforming Ukraine into a kind of suicide corpetal.
That's not how you do it, you know. So it
doesn't it doesn't defeat or about the proposition to point
out you know, well it you know, these uh, some
of these energy concerns are trying to break Russian state
control as far back as like you know, ninety nine,
two thousand. Yeah, that that that did happen. That is happening,
but like it's not one of the other you know.
That's why too. The when the bush Baker Plan, the
bush Baker gorbachevv model for the post Soviet era, you know,
like I said before, it's really interesting because in part
that plan called for the Soviet Union to remain until
full disarmament had been realized, and then for the transition
to something like the Common of Independent States, this kind
of devolved federalism, but with the supremacy of Moscow as
the political core remaining. But Rumsfeld, Cheney a bunch of
the PNAC guys, they uh, their big notion was to
break the Soviet Union essentially into three pieces, you know,
like the Siberian East or like, so what was Soviet Asia.
Then there was like basically h the Greater Moscow Leningrad
kind of constellation of a of a of territory, and
then uh, like Ukraine and like Belarus and like Western Russia.
You know that that was kind of how it was
supposed to break down, and uh, some sort of some
sort of cipher like Yelsin would be kind of like
the dictator of you know, like American commissary at Moscow
there to the EU would be able to essentially cannibalize Ukraine,
you know, uh with you know, America, and the driver's
seat obviously is the occupying element. And then uh, the uh,
the Soviet Far East would what happened like the Soviet
Far East that basically be like the territorial hedge uh
against China, and that also be uh the origin point
of deployment into Central Asia and stuff, you know, in
the subcontinent, what have you. And that would also facilitate
pressure being brought to Baron Iran and stuff. So that's
really interesting to contemplate.
Speaker 1: Well, well, the people who think that that Putin works
for the Jews would have to believe that he basically
is doing what yelts and was supposed to do as
far as Panak was the and which means that if
he works for the jew Is, he works for America. Yes,
I mean, if if we're zog, that means that that
means that Putin works for the United States.
Speaker 3: States government, the same people, Like I said, like, I
don't I haven't followed him lately. Maybe he's become more sensible.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But I used to run under these guys who were
like info Wars fans, and they drop a lot of
Alex Jones' talking points and they claim stuff like the
Cold War was legered Maine and I'm an idiot because
there was never any chance in nuclear wars. It was
all fake. And it's like that's not how things work.
I mean, that's stupid for all kinds of reasons. But
it's like so America and the Soviet Union, they're just
maintaining these massive constellation of military forces. Then they were
pretending to go to war in places like Vietnam, Ande
and Gola and killing a bunch of people just as
part of like the Magicians act. Why would anybody do that,
you know? But I mean there's the same people who
claim that well nine to eleven was a controlled demolition.
It's like, okay, but if you don't need to blow
up the world trace and get a war man date,
you know, you basaical need to stir up war fever.
You know, this isn't uh, this isn't nineteen forty where
you got you know, President of Roosevelt saying how do
I how can I mobilize twenty million men, you know,
and kill off they were from like a quarter million
to like a million American boys in some unpopular war
and basically shut down all activity other than this, you know,
unrelated this unrelated to this you know, massive war effort. Yeah,
then you do need a Pearl Harvard. I ainth that happen.
You don't need to You don't need to blow up
New York City to invent a catalyst to intervene in
the Middle East?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean.
Speaker 3: Did Bush that did Bush forty one order some sort
of bomb to be planted in Chicago or LA to
intervene in the Gulf War? I mean like apparently not,
you know, like because that's acidine. But the you know,
I say, with the Russia thing, It's like, okay, I
understand in some cases we're talking about historical or plical phenomena,
like trying to explain to people, especially people who don't
really understand these topics in depth, why there was this
incredibly violent enmity between you know, Jews and Germans. Okay,
that's a complicated topic and it's subtle. The case of
Russia and Israel, they both talk Russia, both Russians and
Israelis and Jews write books about how they hate each other,
why they hate each other, They go to war constantly,
and then people turn around and act like this is
like they're like be fuddled by the realc with you this,
Like I don't. It's it's very much above board, you know,
like essentially the entire final phase of the Cold War,
especially after you know, Southeast Asia and and the subcontinent
and you know what, we're stabilized where they set a
lit in this kind of divided paradigm and the Santa
Soviets split was you know, kind of ossified into a
new paradigm. Like basically the front line of the Cold
War was Palestine, you know it. Uh Moscow literally passed
a law making it a crime to be a Zionist
like this, this goes back centuries. You know, it's it's
I I don't understand it how you can be like
that fucking stupid. But uh, you know, like I said,
I just don't. I just don't engage with those people
because they're worrying why you can teach. It's like I
might become like unbelievably fucking stupid if I like catch
whatever they have or something.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like the nine to eleven thing, the how
not how nine to eleven happened and how the buildings fell,
why three buildings fell is really like that's for the
low IQ people to talk about why it happened, and
you know, why it was carried why that mission was
carried out is way more important. And but people don't
want to know the why because if you can figure
out where the bomb was placed here and what happened here,
you you seem to be a whole lot smarter.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like that's one of the things about conspiracies is
and I'm not talking about conspiracy. There are conspiracies. There
was a conspiracy to get the United States into World
War One.
Speaker 2: We know this. I mean, that's.
Speaker 1: That's inarguable. I'm talking about these conspiracies that are meant
to divert you away from the things that you should
be concentrating on. I mean, it's like you have people
who believe that, like the reason pot the reason Putin
is a Jewish puppet is because he's crossing over border
and killing white people. Yeah, well that's what that's what
that's what Jews want, right, Jews want to kill white people.
And even even if he's not working with him, he's
so fucking stupid that he fell for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. It's just like a tall wag of
understanding of how the sociology function. That's scale too, Like
I don't I think the one's idea that if you're
talking about a country or a political consolation of hundreds
of millions of people, it functions kind of like the
office they work at, just bigger or something like. They
don't they don't understand that when you're talking about humanity
at that scale, there's nobody really at the helm. You know,
you've got politically powerful people. They're responding to essentially apocal
forces or acts of God. If a live it that
way and identifying you know, when, where and how, you know,
a directive intervention by political or military means, you know,
can swing an outcome and where or the other. You know,
I know there's other things there too. I mean there's
like what honor demands and you know, impulses relating to
the passions and things, and you know, uh, paradigms of
religious belief that like inform conduct. But you know, I don't. Yeah,
that's what people just don't even understand, like what what
politics is, Like it's not or the thing that the
planet is like some sort of variant of whatever, like
weird corner of America they live in, you know, like
one of the things.
Speaker 2: Like you know, and.
Speaker 3: I think too, they've got this idea that warfare only
emerges as some sort of as some sort of deliberate policy,
and like you can you can just make it happen
or make it not happen, like you can by tending
your garden or something. You know, I mean, like war
arrives like the seasons, you can inspire to capitalizing additions
of enmity and push those conditions towards catastrophe, you know,
like America is done in Ukraine. But it's uh, the
situation there, you're dealing with the totally dysfunctional culture, and uh,
there's an irrational animosity there, particularly coming from the Ukrainian side,
but that they didn't like spontaneously emerge when day because
you know, idiots the American Department of State have some
ability to like mind control people or something. But I
maintain and this isn't some sort of stupid flex understanding
politics at scale. It's like anything else. See, I don't
understand like people just decide to understand this. It's like
would you decide you understand nuclear physics? You know, like
why do you think you have some say on this?
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You know,
you have no ability to perceive these things. But you're like, oh,
this is what I think. It's like why because you
watch you watch TV, like you know, it's really really,
really weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're not going to get it from podcasts either.
That's coming from a podcaster. Yeah, we can help you
down the road, we can point you in the right direction.
But if you're not leaving here, if you're not leaving
this and reading Jurislskin or Hana our Rent, well.
Speaker 2: You don't know. But you don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just discussed, you know, and then you're going
to have the people who are going to immediately say, well,
you're invoking a rent and you're invoking sled Skeen, and
there are both Jews, and of course they're going to
say that there were that all the Jews. All this
blame needs to be deflected away from Jews because you know,
they're trying to protect their own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't I read. Uh. I remember it's
like a wayman in terms of like space science and stuff.
And I listen to a lot of podcasts like by
that guy John Michael Godier. You know, there's the Event
Horizon pod and stuff, and uh, whether people agree with
the takes of him and these other guys. These guys
are all like PGDs and physics. Like I'm not saying
credentials mean you know something, But in that whole kind
of sphere, there's not just like random guys who are like, yeah,
I manage at Walmart, but today I'm going to talk
about you know, black hole cosmology because I watch TV,
so I'm an expert like like literally in like the
political sphere, that's what it is. It's like I'm some
like random dickhead like Dan Bill's aria and then you
might remember me from like like how to pick up
girls and like steroid guys stuff. But I don't like
Israel no, you know, it's like where do these motherfuckers
get their fucking balls? You know, It's like you got no,
you have no opinion on this, you know, like you
like you know less than nothing, you know. And that's
that's what's weird about it. When I realized there's an
entire legacy media culture that it's kind of tailored to
confer these delusions upon randos that they were actually they
actually understand politics. But I still maintain it's a fucking
weird phenomenon. I literally spend like ten hours a day
like studying this stuff, and I have for my entire life,
and uh, I feel like I'm just scratching the service
of things. But then there's like a billion randos who
are like barely literate, who have like some hardest fuck
opinion on politics, like it's retarded.
Speaker 2: Some of them have audiences too nice, So.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, that's like I said, like if you look
at these these supposedly like right wing fags, it's just
like random idiots, Like that's why he's that, Like Dan
Bilderian guy. He's literally like this, like Jim bro guy.
One day he's like, I don't like Israel, Like it's
it's just like a grift. But it's just weird. It's weird.
These people think they understand that it's weird. They gravitate
the total randos, who they decide are authorities on you know,
like photical theoretical affairs and stuff, and it's just like weird.
They think that they're in they have a stake in
this anyway. But it's like it's like the randoms have
decided like Trump is ruining their life. It's like it's
like it's like you don't understand these things. This has
no impact on your life, Like why why are you
convinced like Donald Trump is after you? It's like whoever
the president is. It's like you're not capable of understanding
this shit. Just like go about your goofy life and
you know where you like work at Target or whatever,
Like why why you decided you're like some Marvel Comics
character and Donald Trumps is super villain you trying to
do things to you. You know, like that that you
have like no bearing in your world, you know, like it.
Speaker 2: All right? Man? Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: It's it's just frustrating sometimes because you know, you you
bury your heads head in these books and you actually
read them to people sometimes, you know how I like
to do that and everything, and people still don't get it.
It's still black and white. It's still this black and
white good versus evil kind of thing. And it's there
is no I mean, if you bring up if you
bring up sociological issues, you know, within within the framework
of two people, of two distinct peoples who just are
not going to be a to get along with each other.
I remember one time you and I talked about I
think Jews in Spain, and it's like, how the hell
did Jews go into a Catholic country and both of
those groups not immediately start killing each other. It just
doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And why because there's a
So it's not because one doesn't like the way the
other one looks, one doesn't like the way the other
one smells. It's because there is a fundamentally sociological issue
there that is going to cause one of those groups
to realize that the other is a grave threat to
their to their survival in that milieu.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and it's yeah, exactly. Well, no, and that's
why that's why Gee keeps so hard and increasingly I'm
sure part of it because I'm like old and cantanke risks,
but I'm just not I I'm not here to like
trying spoonfeed knowledge the stupid people. They're like or disruptive
or ignorant people. And it's like, I don't I think
it really gets me. And like I said, I mean,
I I try to overreact to this stuff, and I'm
very fortunate in all kinds of way. It's not bitter,
but there'll be motherfuckers. They will literally plagiarize my ship
and like say stuff I've said word for word, and
then like say, I'm an idiot and I don't know
what I'm talking about. It's like really, man, it's like
you gotta have you built a content brand on plagiarizing me,
you know, so it's like you must be a real
idiot then because like apparently I don't know anything, but
your entire kink is like appropriating everything I say and write.
Speaker 2: But you know, and then like.
Speaker 3: Jy Thunders made the point that like people would like
hate on him constantly and see he was like a
junkie piece of shit, but then they'd like imitate everything
he did so.
Speaker 2: To a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got a chance to have a
conversation wh people who have been studying this for decades
and like are actually like real academics, and you have
conversations with them and they're like, they're not calling you
an idiot like some fucking a non on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Will Well it's also too, I mean, frankly, like I said,
I don't I don't think I'm I don't think I'm
better than anybody. You don't think I'm like some kind
of genius. But it's like, well, I don't know, man,
I have that conversations about this kind of shit with
people like Henry Kissinger, and you know, I've never been
told that I'm that I don't know what I'm talking about,
that I'm an idiot, And like I said, it's like, okay, fine,
I'm an idiot. Then while you motherfucker stop plagiarizing me now,
Like I whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, all right, man, tell people where they
can find you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, uh, the best spot remains substick. It's
real Thomas seven seven seven at substack dot com. You
know that's from there you can get to my social
media and all that shit, and uh my website now
is pretty like everything should be working right. It's number
seven h on a S seven seven seven dot com,
like go there first and foremost.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Oh one thing I took away from this
you said it at the end, gatekeep gate, keep gate,
keep in your personal especially in your personal life. Yeah,
if you're if you're out there gatekeeping on Twitter. Oh
that guy over there, he won't name the Jew, so
that means that means that he wants the Jews to
take over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seek Canadian healthcare? Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this is why. Yeah, that's why you
don't teach people to read exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take every other bye,