WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.960 On Lieutenant General Kellogg. I mean he I don't think 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.519 we should be taking any directions from Russia on who 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:12.240 we're going to send to this He has extraordinarily long 4 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:17.039 history and in national security obviously retired three star, but 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:21.640 also Vice President's National Security Advisor in the first Trump administration. 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:26.679 So he is incredibly knowledgeable, I think, fully respected by 7 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:30.320 the Ukrainians, which matters. And you know the fact that 8 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.320 he might be a bit pro Ukrainian Okay, I. 9 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.840 Mean, yeah, exactly. How is that a big deal? 10 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.000 Right? Yeah? I mean you remember at one time the 11 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:44.079 National Security Advisor, national Security Advisor was his biggest criticism 12 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:49.399 is we weren't given Ukraine enough fast enough. Yeah. Right, 13 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.880 So I think the history of most of our people 14 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:56.719 in national security and Rubio as well, a secretary of Ruvio, 15 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.640 they're all pro Ukrainian. I mean it's our partner, you know, 16 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.120 so they and as soon as we start bowing to 17 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:06.120 their demands, then all they're gonna. 18 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.239 Do is make demands, right, Yeah, you know. 19 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.840 It's it's you know, we should just not even acknowledge. 20 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.640 It's like, yeah, we're gonna send our team. This is 21 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.719 our team. We don't need, We didn't tell you who 22 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:16.120 you just said. 23 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:34.560 I'm sorry, Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Eyes 24 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:39.760 on mc mulroy. Of course myself, Dmitri, Thank God mix 25 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.640 here because I couldn't do this by myself. Uh Andy Milberg, 26 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:47.599 Jason Lyons are, They're here. We love them and we 27 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.760 miss them. Lock Cooking Today. Over the last you know, 28 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.879 week or so, there's been quite a bunch of news. 29 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:01.120 First and foremost, what's going on with Ukraine. The US 30 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.480 and Ukrainians met in Saudi Arabia a few days ago, 31 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.400 came up with a ceasefire plan for thirty days, and 32 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.759 it seems like the Russians have rejected and kind of 33 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.759 slipped in their own cease fire deal or what looks 34 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:19.199 like a ceasefire deal not exactly something that is shocking 35 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:20.919 to most people that they wouldn't go for it. 36 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:23.560 Mick, what are you thinking? 37 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:29.479 Also a big point in that was Kellogg got kind 38 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:33.080 of put on the back burner. I guess Russians didn't 39 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:35.319 like him being involved. 40 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.840 So just that was just my yess. Yeah, I'll have 41 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.039 to discuss their day, but I'll start with happy almost 42 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:48.599 Saint Patrick's day to America and Irish around the world. Obviously, 43 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:53.000 but had to point that out. I am I have 44 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.080 my contribution to ready to go to green spot. I 45 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.919 don't how many investments in this, but I I recommend 46 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:05.240 it you haven't had a green spot. And fun fact 47 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:10.319 for in honor of our national security bend of our 48 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.439 podcast in the Irish Irish are about nine percent of 49 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.919 the US population Irish Americans. That is how many what 50 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.520 percentage do you think of Medal of Honors d were 51 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:28.120 awarded to Irish Americans. I'm going to say nine percent. 52 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:29.960 Remember they're only nine percent of the population. 53 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:31.080 I'm going to say for. 54 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.639 Fifty eight percent? Oh wow, almost sixty percent. And I 55 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:38.919 think if they updated it, I think it would be 56 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.719 over sixty percent. You guys can check me out. But 57 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:46.240 that's your Irish propaganda for today. I got a lot 58 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:52.360 of it. So to your question on Ukraine, obviously, several 59 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.759 big things. I think it's important to point out it's 60 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.360 good that we are now what appears to be on 61 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.719 the same sheet with Ukraine. Need to recognize that it 62 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.039 was a little mess of getting there, but you know, 63 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.560 it is what it is, and this is a US 64 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:12.000 proposed ceasefire. So I think that is what we need. 65 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.080 The US to focus on is that now this is 66 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.680 the US wanting a seafire, and there has to be 67 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:24.199 not just you know, everybody has to compromise as supposed 68 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.600 in any negotiation, but there needs to be consequences to 69 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.639 Russia if they don't agree to the ceasefire. And there's 70 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.560 reports now and although it's like it's a secret, but 71 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.560 that as an FSB report, apparently that's been reported that 72 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.160 their plan is to essentially continue to fight, make completely 73 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:48.519 unrealistic requests of the ceasefire, and basically play US. They 74 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.480 think they're you know, in the Curse region, they are 75 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:56.439 taking back territory early, they're mobilizing to go in the 76 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:01.480 Sumi region of Ukraine. They think that they're partly because 77 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.240 of the disruption and aid and intelligence, but partly just 78 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.439 because this is a war of attrition and Russia has 79 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.959 four times the amount of troops that Ukraine has, So 80 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.160 the longer this goes on, the more territory they'll take. 81 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.439 I think that's a big concern is that they don't 82 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:21.920 see any value from a military perspective of a ceasefire 83 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.000 right now because they believe they're on the front foot. 84 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.399 So I think the way the US and Europe as 85 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.519 supporters of Ukraine to start looking is what can we 86 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:40.680 do to make that turn right, to give Ukraine an 87 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.319 advantage that can start potentially taking territory back from Russia 88 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.920 or whole territory they currently have, and that rhymes with 89 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:53.079 increased security assistance, right, That's what they need to do. 90 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.680 We need to do, and we don't have to have 91 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.240 a press conference about it. We don't have to you know, 92 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.160 leak our deliberations on it. We just need to do it, 93 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.879 I think, and that is what Russia will understand that 94 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.800 we're doing that and so not just turn back on 95 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:12.199 what we had, but actually increase it and potentially, if 96 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.480 that doesn't work to get them into the ceasefire negotiations, 97 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.519 then the releasing of Russian assets that are frozen in 98 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.639 Europe three hundred and twenty five billion, it's my understand 99 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:27.759 that's another point moving. I mean, obviously Europe is been awoken, 100 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.240 which is a good thing, and I think President Trump 101 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:36.480 would take some credit for that. They're building out their military, 102 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:39.360 They're spending more on their own national offense than they 103 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.759 have potentially some of these countries. Ever, so that's going 104 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.279 to keep increasing, which Russia doesn't want to see and 105 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.839 that's too bad. You know, they shouldn't be invading countries 106 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.560 in Europe. They didn't want to see that. So I 107 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:55.279 think that's what the US needs to do to really 108 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.399 leverage our inn sanctions. Of course, sanctions can be increased, 109 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:04.399 you know for talking to some economics, except and and 110 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.000 you know what and when when Russia says we don't 111 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:12.399 like European forces to be there after the ceasefire, we 112 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.319 need to hold the line on that because that is 113 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:18.839 what that's the security guarantee sure for you for Ukraine, Right, 114 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:22.360 that's it. If not, then it's if if Russia doesn't 115 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:25.120 want them there, then that's basically telegraphing to us if 116 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.519 they intend to yet again rate the ceasefire. Yeah right, 117 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.800 that's why they don't want them there, because why would 118 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:33.639 it matter if they if they would, they are fighting 119 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.759 with stop so uh in Europe, Europe doesn't need to 120 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.600 have permission from Russia to send European forces to European countries. 121 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:42.759 So I think we need to hold the line on that. 122 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.480 The last part that I UH to your question, the 123 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:53.120 send to this he has extraordinarily long history and UH 124 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.399 in national security obviously you turned three star but also 125 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.839 Vice President's national Security advisor in the first administration. So 126 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:06.480 he is incredibly knowledgeable, I think, fully respected by the Ukrainians, 127 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.399 which matters, and uh, you know the fact that he 128 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.199 might be a bit pro Ukrainian Okay. 129 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.839 I mean, yeah, exactly. How is that a big deal? 130 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.399 Right? Yeah? I mean you remember one time the national 131 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:23.079 security advisor, our national security advisor was his biggest criticism 132 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:28.399 is we weren't given Ukraine enough fast enough. Yeah. Right, 133 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.879 So I think the history of most of our people 134 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.759 in national security and Rubio as well, a Secretary of Review, 135 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.879 they're all pro Ukrainian. I mean, it's our partner, you know. So, 136 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.879 and as soon as we start bowing to their demands, 137 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:46.759 then all they're going to do is make demands, right, Yeah, 138 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.960 you know it's it's you know, we should just not 139 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:51.919 even acknowledge it. It's like, yeah, we're going to send 140 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:54.120 our team. This is our team. We don't need. We 141 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:56.879 didn't tell you who to send, and it's just fasted 142 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.919 and yes, Europe, Europe is going to send in peace Keeper. 143 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.559 If you're not for that, that just tells us you're 144 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:06.919 essentially already planning to violate the whatever agreement we could 145 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:07.200 get to. 146 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.440 Yeah, it was interesting. I saw one of the clips 147 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.279 from like the Russian State TV or whatever where it's 148 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.000 like it's like their nightly show where they're like, you know, 149 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.799 hardcore propagandists and they're like, this is a mistake because 150 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.679 Europe's arming up right, Like Europe's you know, start stepping 151 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.159 up on their own, you know, Poland is not. I 152 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:27.879 feel like it's not to be fucked with. Like they're 153 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:33.120 down to bump their military spending, maybe go nuclear right 154 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.720 or at least kick that kick the tires on that, 155 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.759 which I can't say I blame them really if i'm 156 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:42.039 if I'm Poland, Like, what's the one thing that'll keep 157 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.600 people off your back? And that's unfortunately nuclear weapons right, 158 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:50.080 Like that'll completely, you know, more than likely avoid an invasion. 159 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.879 Well, if they don't consider the US to be a 160 00:09:55.960 --> 00:10:00.320 secure ally in NATO, I mean I don't. I mean 161 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:04.080 nukes you need, but they are vastly outnumbered by the 162 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.759 Soviet's like five thousand, five hundred and all the countries 163 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.159 of my knowledge are in the without the US have 164 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.320 nuclear weapons. UK and France. Yeah, so France is talking 165 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:17.600 about expanding their umbrella potentially put it in I think Poland, 166 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.799 to your point, they requested nukes in their territory, but 167 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.080 they're also probably gonna in Germany. I mean, yeah, there's 168 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.000 going to be countries that acquire their own and they're 169 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.240 probably there might be a nuclear arm trace here. I mean, 170 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.879 they might want to be on par with the you know, 171 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:38.000 the Russian threat. So yeah, they for whatever is, don't 172 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:41.120 feel they can rely on us. So that means they're 173 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.960 going to literally five thousand additional nuclear weapons. 174 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.080 Just I mean listen, if you're Germany or Poland, right, like, sure, 175 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.799 it'd be great if France extended out the nuclear umbrella, 176 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.320 maybe place some nukes in their in their country, but 177 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:55.919 who's got command and control of those? 178 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:56.159 Right? 179 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.399 So if I'm a country like Poland, it's more like 180 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.519 if I want to guarantee completely guarantee my security, It's 181 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:07.080 like I want my own arsenal, even if it's a 182 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.720 deterring one whatever, a couple hundred you know, one hundred 183 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:14.080 and fifty nukes or whatever it is, you know, Yeah, 184 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:14.720 and it won't. 185 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.000 Won't be difficult for these countries to develop it. I 186 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:20.159 mean it was some of the most technologically sophisticated countries 187 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.559 on the planet. It wasn't it wasn't a lack of 188 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.720 either funds or knowledge. It was just a belief that 189 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.360 you know, collectively, Yeah, you know, especially with the US, 190 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.000 we had them covered when it came to nuclear weapons, 191 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.440 and that's just they don't believe that anymore. And there 192 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.080 and it's not just nukes they're talking. I mean Poland's 193 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.799 doubling the size of their military doubling. Yeah, Germany spending 194 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.080 I think was five hundred billion next year. They're completely 195 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:49.399 and they're completely revamping their industrial military industrial base. They 196 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:52.279 don't want to be relying on the US anymore, so 197 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.320 they're going to you can see you every you know, 198 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.200 every day there's another cancelation of F thirty five. 199 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.320 So I saw that. I think was it Portugal that 200 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:02.799 canceled one? 201 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:08.399 Portugal and Canada European country, and Canada just canceled there 202 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.159 thirty five. So it's going to have a pretty big 203 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.879 consequences to you know, we promote US defense interest here 204 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.120 around the world. We the US government, Yeah, partly because 205 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.399 you know, it's the US, it's US jobs, but also 206 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.480 because it's in our own interest national security interests, to 207 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:30.120 have our partners compatible with US using our equipment right right, 208 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.559 but for reasons both because of their concern about our 209 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.360 you know, alliance with NATO and our but also some 210 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.279 of the things they saw happening in Ukraine when they 211 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.559 started shutting down stuff that's going to have a big 212 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:49.679 effect on the future of US dominance in this this area. 213 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.039 One more thing about that. I've seen a couple of 214 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:56.120 places over the last week or so where the reason 215 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.840 why the US is pulling away from Europe and the 216 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:04.000 UK and Ukraine's pecifically and NATO is because they're doing 217 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:08.840 a hard pivot to the Pacific to China. And I'm 218 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.919 kind of having a hard time really like squaring that 219 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.360 circle a little bit, because like, there's no way we're 220 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:18.159 not able to do both right where we were. Our 221 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.399 main focus obviously is going to be on China. They're 222 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:25.720 the next, you know, strongest economy in military and a 223 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:29.480 Taiwan issue. But we can't do both. 224 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.080 I mean exactly. That's like the biggest false argument in DC. 225 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:38.480 It's always like an either or right, Like, we can't 226 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.840 there's there's a war, a raging war in the Middle East, 227 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.759 there's a raging war in Europe, and we're going to 228 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.720 say that we're only going to focus on the Indo Pacific. 229 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:51.080 I mean that would be uh, you know, not in 230 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.879 our interest, but it politely and the more we show 231 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.200 a weakness when it comes to NATO, which is maybe 232 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.279 there's there's certainly some complaints with our partners in them, sure, 233 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:05.080 but it is the best military alliance in history. I mean, 234 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.320 I won the Cold War and you know it actually 235 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.399 activated to help us after nine to eleven. If we 236 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.879 show a weakness to that, what do you think China 237 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.960 is going to think? Yeah, you know, what about our 238 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.440 partners in the Pacific. You know, we have treaty allies 239 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.559 out there in Japan, for example, South Korea, I think 240 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.240 the Philippines. It just it sends the wrong message. I 241 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.399 mean a strong NATO, especially at the end of this 242 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:34.519 is going to be even stronger, right because we have 243 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.919 energized the Europeans, and I do think that's a good thing. 244 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:41.480 That that would make it less likely, in my opinion, 245 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.720 that China would look to do anything toward Taiwan, whether 246 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.080 it's a blockade or a you know, an actual invasion. 247 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.200 Hey guys, it's Jack. 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We really appreciate it, guys. 275 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:22.799 Thank you. 276 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:27.399 Yeah, I agree with you, And like if we show 277 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.919 that we're like staunch allies with our actual allies and 278 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.919 we're willing to invest and whether it's tech or anything 279 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:40.360 else and everything from intelligence to hardware. Yeah, China's gonna 280 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.679 balk at a full scale invasion of Taiwan. It just 281 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:46.720 is like, right now they see what's going on. If 282 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.600 I'm China, I'm like, maybe we can get it going 283 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.200 by twenty twenty seven, because I have a feeling that 284 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.240 the US won't respond, and if they do, it might 285 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:57.000 be economically, but it won't be kinetically. 286 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:00.879 Right, and we're not and we're we haven't been clear. 287 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.399 I mean there's this thing called strategic ambiguity. When it 288 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.839 comes to Taiwan. I don't really tell them what we're 289 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.240 going to do. We have a law that requires us 290 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:12.599 to support them, but not direct military. You know, I 291 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.279 think you could make the argument we should be strategically 292 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:19.920 clear and say we are going to or why not. 293 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:22.720 We just don't make the decision at the time, and 294 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:25.160 it will be a difficult decision to try to convince 295 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:27.759 Americans that you know that we're going to go to 296 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.599 war with China to save Taiwan. I think that would 297 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.880 be tough. But yeah, But one of the ways to 298 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:36.359 prevent it from even being an issue for us to 299 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.079 have to decide is to show great strength in NATO 300 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:45.039 and to build up our partnerships and alliances and to 301 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.720 have some version of an Indo Pacific NATO. Yeah, right, 302 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:51.759 I think we could. We could do that, and it 303 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:56.880 would be to our benefit because oftentimes alliances military alliances 304 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:01.119 lead to trade, uh and economic benefits. I mean it's 305 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:06.480 tied completely, which is another reason why we got, I 306 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.359 guess get a little concerned about who we're picking place 307 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:09.759 with economically. Sure. 308 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.480 Also another bit I saw about like kind of like 309 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:18.799 our allies moving away from American hardware. I mean, this 310 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.000 has been a long back and forth with Turkey, Like 311 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:22.759 Turkey hat was going to get the F thirty five, 312 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.359 but they both asked four hundred and we didn't. We 313 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.519 kicked them. We stopped that purchase. But Turkey hit up 314 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:34.759 the UK Ministry of Defense about purchasing forty Eurofighters typhoons. 315 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:35.160 You know. 316 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:40.480 So also I understand why they are a little apprehensive 317 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.440 all the rest of Europe, Like there was talk about 318 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.880 a F thirty five kill switch and stuff like that, 319 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.079 where it's like, yeah, we to make sure we're secure. 320 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:49.880 We need to make you know, we need to be 321 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:54.759 able to trust our allies, historical allies, right, eighty ninety 322 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:55.759 year allies. 323 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:01.440 It just yeah, yeah, they have to consider we certainly 324 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:03.839 would I mean how I switched to I mean one 325 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.519 of our closest allies that was Japan. Yeah, so I 326 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.319 mean you don't know, I mean I would hope that 327 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.759 we maintain our allies and they don't become adversaries. But 328 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.759 from any country's perspective, you want to have ultimate control 329 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.640 of your strategic weapon systems at all your weapon systems, 330 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:21.759 but certainly the big ones. 331 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:28.200 For sure. I'm trying anything else on this Ukraine to 332 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.839 cease fire and the you know what happens next, maybe 333 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.440 a little bit of like some speculation at least. 334 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.599 Well, I think I think the way to force Russia 335 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:42.519 to really come to the table and into an agreement 336 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:46.160 is to make it in their advantage, for their advantage, right, 337 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:50.759 in the sense that we have to start taking stronger measures. 338 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:55.000 We have to start giving Ukraine, as many said in 339 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.799 the last administration, the ability to win, not to survive. Yeah, 340 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:02.599 and that means leaving the restrictions or cutting the restrictions 341 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:04.519 on our weapon systems and how far they can fight 342 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.920 into or be used into Russia and just start giving 343 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.880 the more material period. That's you know, again, you don't 344 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.279 have to rub at anybody's face. It doesn't service a 345 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.799 purpose to do that. Just do it. And then you know, 346 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.200 as they start realizing that they're not going to win, 347 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:24.799 it comes to a complete standstill, then they'll come to 348 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.079 the table. And then when they do, we need to 349 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:31.279 just ignore the ridiculous over the top because that's how 350 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:35.839 everything is maximized. On theirs. They'll last for maximum amounts 351 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.799 of concessions and they'll try to turn us against each other. 352 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.119 So we just need to know that's the playbook and 353 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:42.279 just not fall into it. 354 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:44.039 They've been doing a decent job of it. I'm not 355 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:45.640 going to lie to you over the last month or so. 356 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:49.319 Yeah, yeah, they think right now everything's going in the 357 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:51.839 direction their direction, which yeah, I don't think they're ready 358 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:53.119 to come to the table. 359 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.119 Also, does Russia really think that Ukraine, even if they 360 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.160 did collapse and they were able to take up more 361 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:05.480 more territory that like the Ukrainian people, that wouldn't be 362 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:09.440 like the craziest insurgency in the hit like ever. 363 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.359 And that last part again it cut off. 364 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.240 So if like let's say, let's say US backed up 365 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.599 and Russia really made some huge games where they were 366 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.599 able to maybe even get to Kiev again, right like 367 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.359 the early days in the war, you don't like they're 368 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:29.480 not thinking of like the insane insurgency that would happen afterwards, 369 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.119 and what would like what that would be like to 370 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.319 be fighting street to street urban warfare? 371 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:47.680 Yeah, sorry, they don't want to come in and clay my room. Yeah, 372 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.599 I mean the idea. I mean, let's look how tenacious 373 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:54.880 the Ukrainians have been so far, Right, so we most 374 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:58.240 analysts like myself, you know, they're like three days, three weeks, 375 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.519 three days, and you know in February twenty second when 376 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.920 they cross the line, now we're we're over three years'reun 377 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:05.480 our fourth year and. 378 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:08.160 They're taking twenty percent of the train and now they're 379 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:12.279 trying to take back terrain that was the that the 380 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:16.640 Ukrainians actually took in Russia. So let's let's not be 381 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.359 so quick to lose faith. 382 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.559 Not that you are, but what the Ukrainians can do, 383 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.440 They've proven they can fight. Yeah, be you know, this 384 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:30.240 is a David Golias type scenario literally, and the idea 385 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.519 that you could have a long term occupation in Ukraine 386 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:37.200 without like the worst to your point insurgency. Ever, they 387 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:39.319 got to realize that's just not going to happen, and 388 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.680 there could be a point where Europeans actually go in 389 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:48.119 without a seasfire. I mean, that's a plausible scenario, right, Yeah, 390 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.400 and just say, okay, well, we're gonna man the line 391 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:52.720 here and you're not going any further, and if you do, 392 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.720 you're going to be fighting, you know, European forces that 393 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.119 are in NATO. And I mean, whether that be a 394 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:02.359 NATO or situation, I don't know, but it certainly would 395 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:07.759 changed the discussion from the from the Russian perspective. 396 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:17.839 Yeah, gosh, man, all right, swinging over segue into another 397 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.119 sunny part of the world, Gaza and the extension of 398 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.160 Phase one, US Israeli citizen is being released, and there 399 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.960 I think they're also releasing a couple of bodies as well, 400 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:33.279 and all the other big one that like. 401 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:35.920 Stood out for sure was like there was talk of 402 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:42.119 like relocating Palestinians in African countries. I think Somalia being one, 403 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.839 Sudan another one where places where like I don't know 404 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.039 if they are influx of refugees is exactly the best 405 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:53.839 thing for countries like that right now, Yeah, what are 406 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:54.640 you tracking with that? 407 00:23:56.519 --> 00:24:00.440 So the the extension of the first DACE seems to 408 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.519 be continuing at least as far as the pause in 409 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:10.960 the fighting, but there does seem to be not all 410 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.920 the parts, right. So the other parts of the first 411 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:19.279 phase was increased humanitarian assistance, which has now been essentially 412 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:24.279 cut off to a population that you know, we we 413 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:27.359 do some humanitarian work there, so we tend to know 414 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.200 the statistics, but it's essentially one hundred percent, like ninety 415 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:37.279 seven percent of all Palestinians are you know, at risk 416 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:43.160 of starvation. Right, So if you cut off the supplies, 417 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.640 eventually the stockpiles at an extent there was much are 418 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.400 going to run out. And they cut off electricity to 419 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:54.000 most Gaza, which not only of course affects the ability 420 00:24:54.000 --> 00:25:00.440 of hospitals to be hospitals, but also essentially to make 421 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.599 clean water that you need power for the desalinization plants. 422 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:08.359 So they're down to no food coming in and not 423 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:12.039 being able to make clean water, which is super critical 424 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.640 to any population. So I think the request on the 425 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.759 part of the Israelis right now is and you know, 426 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.960 there's a lot of legalities with cutting off humanitarian assistance 427 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.039 to a civilian population, so you can't use that as 428 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:33.400 a means of warfare, so to speak, exactly that, so 429 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.559 they if they can extend it where the hostages are 430 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:40.200 still coming out from the exchange of Palestinians and the 431 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.400 humanitarian assistance is better for everybody. So hopefully AMAS does that. 432 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.839 They claim to care about the Palestinian people in Gaza. 433 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:50.400 I think there's little evidence to support that they do. 434 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.200 But this would be like the basic level, right, do 435 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:59.599 you want to keep releasing hostages for Palestinian prisoners to 436 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:05.480 be really east and for humanitarian assistants to go back 437 00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:09.279 to high levels. I think that this should happen. And 438 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.279 your other point, yes, the reports that the US has 439 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:17.319 gone to I think with Somalia, Sudan and Somaliland, which 440 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.519 is part of Somaliaba would like to be its own country, 441 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:27.359 and asked about whether they would take Palestinians. I can't. 442 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:32.160 I still think it seems to be completely impractical. I mean, 443 00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.799 how do you forcibly relocate two million people that don't 444 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.319 want to? Of course, many of them are armed, so 445 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:43.880 I mean think about how difficult of a military problem 446 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:49.240 that would be, and it would be obviously extraordinarily bloody. 447 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.640 And of course the legality is and forcibly relocating the 448 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.240 population from our own land and forcing them into a country. 449 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:58.920 Even if one of those countries agreed, like we already 450 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.400 know Egypt and Jordan said no, how, no way, it's 451 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.240 not going to happen. I don't know obviously that at 452 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.680 least in the reports I read, it didn't say anything about, 453 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:13.200 you know, whether they replied positively to that. But if 454 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.319 they did, to your other point, d I mean, somebody 455 00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.880 would have to pay for all. I mean, these are 456 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.680 countries that like Sudan's. Actually, if there's one place worse 457 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.880 than Sudan, I mean then Gaza. Right now, when it 458 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:31.559 comes to humanitarian crisis, it's Sudan, Right, So taking two 459 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.359 million people into a country that's having a very because 460 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.599 we worked there as well, a very difficult time feeding 461 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.400 its own population would be that would work, but I 462 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.960 guess somebody would have to pay the bill, I suppose. 463 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.680 And Somalia they're expecting a drought. Just met with the 464 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.799 Somalis the other day about ours the stuff we do, 465 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.759 and they are expecting a pretty substantial drought with six 466 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:00.720 million people would be at risk food and security. So 467 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.240 these are two countries that you know, not only couldn't 468 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.000 just absorb it, they can't necessarily deal with their own. 469 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.599 Make I got a question, right, because you've been in 470 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:20.079 these rooms where strategies talked about this idea of like forcibly, 471 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.160 moving two million people to another country. Are they just 472 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.440 sitting in a room with a whiteboard and they're like, guys, 473 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.839 give me any ideas, any ideas, and let's put it 474 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.079 out there and try it, because that's fucking insane. 475 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.480 Yeah. So that's you know, when when the policy process, 476 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:39.519 which I don't know if it's I assume it's still 477 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.920 being the same, you have like the deputies, which is right, 478 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.480 not that I mean you have different levels the PCB 479 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.960 the policy coordination but. 480 00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.400 It starts at a lower level where people get cooking 481 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.720 and they talk about things and recommend it to the 482 00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:59.039 next level. I can't see this being vetted months and 483 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.079 months where they're like, you know what, this is a 484 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:03.519 good idea, Let's kick it up to the deputy assistant 485 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.480 and the assistant then whatever you know what I mean like, 486 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.359 and then we'll be in the NSC with the principles 487 00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.000 all talking about it. Like I cannot imagine that's how 488 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:11.519 it went. 489 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.480 Down, right, But just yeah, it's called a PCC, I think, 490 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.440 the Policy Coordination Committee, and I was on that for 491 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.400 the Pentagon, right. And the reason why I break it 492 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.559 up is that if everybody agrees on that doesn't necessarily 493 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.359 have to go up. You know, it doesn't have to 494 00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.720 go to the deputies or the principles or the felnacy 495 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:35.240 if everybody agrees, and obviously most cases you've already coordinated 496 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:39.039 with your particular secretary, so you're not just a free 497 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.920 will in it. But from the DoD perspective, we are 498 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:49.960 always with uniform usually with our uniformed counterpart at the 499 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.880 Joint stat Right, So why now they don't propose policy 500 00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.839 but they are there to keep keep people in the 501 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:03.200 realm of reality. Like, you know, somebody comes up with 502 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.960 a great idea to move two million people that don't 503 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.839 want to be moved, then the military is going to 504 00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.400 be asked, like, tell us how this would happen, If 505 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.799 it could happen, what would be the concerns we'd have, 506 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:19.519 and et cetera. The agency, the CIA, also plays a 507 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:24.160 similar similar role in that they they will they're there 508 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:28.240 to provide input on the sadness of a policy direction, 509 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.279 not to say whether we should do it, but just 510 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.720 the consequences, pros and cons if you will, of doing 511 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:40.200 it or not doing it, so that there is there 512 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.920 is healthy doses of reality, even to people who might 513 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.839 you know, not know you know what they're asking for. Uh, 514 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.279 they get that injection with And that's one of the 515 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:56.240 key reasons we have uniform military and the intelligence services 516 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:01.079 in these policy committee meetings because oh, in the intel 517 00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.160 community obviously up sets the facts. So we're all supposed 518 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.200 to be operating on the same bats. 519 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.720 Mm hmm, yeah. I thank god somebody leaked it, I 520 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.279 guess to show everybody how stupid it is of an 521 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.319 idea they'll even like bring up in any kind of meeting, 522 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:24.359 and at least it got to like the news kind 523 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.000 of dovetailing a little bit towards what's happening a little 524 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.480 bit here at home in terms of like the revocation 525 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.079 of visas for some of the protest students that are 526 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:40.319 protesting Columbia and different universities. The kid, his name was 527 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.880 Khalil what was it? I don't remember his last name. Sorry, 528 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.200 He got arrested, sent to an ICE detention center in Louisiana. 529 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.039 As far as I know, they were trying to charge 530 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.519 him with stuff in Louisiana rather than in New York, 531 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:58.720 where Columbia University is where he was detained. His attorneys, 532 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.200 it's a bit, it's a shit show. The guy's are 533 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.240 green he has a green card, he's a permanent resident. 534 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.839 He has a wife wife that are a girlfriend or 535 00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.960 fiance that's eight months pregnant, who is a citizen. And 536 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.440 in America, you should be able to fucking protest something 537 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.359 you don't like. That's where I stand. I mean, I 538 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:22.240 don't know what you're thinking, Mick, uh protests not violently, 539 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:23.079 not violently? 540 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:29.960 Yeah right, yeah, So my understanding is that every person 541 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.440 in the country, not just citizens, have rights under the 542 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.720 First Amendment. I think it's the Bridges case. A lot 543 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.640 of time ago, I was actually a lawyer, so that 544 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.920 that gives me any special Uh. I usually want to 545 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:44.759 tell people that because then I just get lawyer jips. 546 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:49.200 But I believe that is the case. There's certain exceptions. 547 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:54.039 Mm hmm. There's certain exceptions even for citizens. Right. You 548 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.119 you can't promote miles. Yeah, like it's speech, but I 549 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:01.640 ain't free. Right, you can't sit there and say you 550 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.559 could try to tell people they should go and. 551 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.759 Run, run into a theater, yell fire, that kind of Yeah. 552 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.039 There's plenty of plenty of exceptions. We're not plenty, but 553 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:16.880 there is exceptions. And I think inside the immigration laws 554 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.440 that cover this, what the administration is saying is that 555 00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:27.119 if it harms US foreign relations, that you can revoke visas. 556 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.640 So and I don't know what this young man did, 557 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.640 so I'm not I'm not like, if he's just against 558 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:41.000 the Israeli operation in Gaza. Yeah, that obviously any Americans 559 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.759 should be able to be for it or against them. 560 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:48.599 It shouldn't just if not, then even with people that 561 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.319 are here on visas, you know, you have to agree 562 00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:56.680 with the current administration, right, sure. If not, you could 563 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.720 under that theory, you could just be launched. The question 564 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:03.759 is whether he was promoting a Moss Hamas is a 565 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.839 is a U s U E U U N designated 566 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.639 terrorist organization who proved that it is in spades on 567 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:17.320 October seven. So I don't know he was he promoting Hamas, 568 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.519 which to me would be promoting uh, obviously a terrorist 569 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.760 organization by the facts, or was he just in disagreement 570 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.199 with the US policy on you know, O of the 571 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.880 twesdate solution, et cetera. If it's if it's promoting a Moss, 572 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:39.039 and I could see attending to what level anybody uh, 573 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.119 you know, not being able to do that, but certainly 574 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.639 somebody who's a visitor. If it's just a political question, 575 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.000 then we're going down up, as they say in the law, 576 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.039 slippery slope. Yeah, you know, you disagree with me, so 577 00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:57.039 I'm gonna bootschat on the country. Sure, that's going to 578 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.800 be highly subjective if that's allowed and it's not actual 579 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.400 promotion of a terrorist ideology. 580 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.559 Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, what constitutes promotion 581 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.800 of a terrorist organization? Right? Like he's not I mean, 582 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.880 if he's raising money and sending it to hamas things 583 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.119 and that nature, like I understand why, Like you can't 584 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.800 fucking do that, and there should be consequences to that. 585 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.679 I mean, if he's organizing a anti Israel protests and 586 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.840 Columbia universities one, I think he's one of the organizers 587 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.639 of it, right, right, and whatever their chance might be 588 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.239 outside of death to America or death Israel, if it's 589 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.119 like a lawful protest, Yeah, I'm really having a hard 590 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.679 time wrapping my mind around like being able to snatch 591 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.800 him and toss him even if he's not an actual 592 00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.519 US citizen, a permanent resident with a green card. 593 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.239 Right, and that there is a provision that allows the 594 00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:57.039 Secretary of State to do that, So I guess the 595 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.480 legality might be there, But the question is we start 596 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.760 down that road, then it's gonna literally people that are 597 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:11.960 in our country at our permission are now expected to 598 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.920 be everything they say is has to be consistent with 599 00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:20.639 the current administration. I mean, that's not American all. But 600 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.039 the question is, was he actually and I don't know 601 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:23.440 that he was. 602 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:25.000 I don't know either. 603 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.159 You know part of it and they think, God, thank 604 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:32.880 you very much, I appreciate it. Have a runderful day. Uh, 605 00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.760 it was perfectly bad timing, right, What am I gonna do? Season? 606 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:38.760 Super nice? 607 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.840 Yeah, she was good, she was quiet. 608 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.039 I have to be America. You can maybe if I 609 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:48.000 get out of the way, you can see the Yeah, money, 610 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:54.760 you see it. Yeah there, it is so cloudy here, Lucy. Yeah, 611 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.800 it's it's tough. I guess. I guess they need to 612 00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.440 really show what he did or did not do, and 613 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:01.800 what he said did not say. I think one of 614 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.000 the things that is really concerned people who have seen 615 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.039 these protests. I mean, we have a long history of 616 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.719 college protests, which is I think a good thing, uh is, 617 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.280 but some of them really don't know what the hell 618 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.239 they're talking about. You know, when when you've got people 619 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.679 like saying, you know, you know LG you know, lesbians 620 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.480 for Hamas, it's like, yeah, I mean this is this 621 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:28.719 is one of the that organization is is completely against 622 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:33.280 any form of individual human rights on any right, whether 623 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:40.000 it's First Amendment, freedom of religion, women's rights, obviously gay rights. 624 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:43.519 I mean, you couldn't get a group that's probably further 625 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:50.920 from supporting Western you know, ideas of individual liberties than 626 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:55.079 Hamas right. So it's it's part of it you know, 627 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.199 you can always disagree. I mean you always have that 628 00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.800 between younger people and older people. But some of it's like, 629 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.360 come on, I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna 630 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:04.079 spend this much time and dedicate your life to something, 631 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.679 y'attall really find out what you're talking about, because that's embarrassing. 632 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.599 It's embarrassing to see people say stuff like that, Yeah, 633 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.679 because they obviously have done no research on that topic. 634 00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.559 If that's if that's and just think about it. Hey, 635 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.599 you know, if you're a gay person or you know anything, 636 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.519 and you go to Gaza, you think they're cann you know, 637 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.599 you think you can find like the gay Pride parade 638 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:27.559 where they do that. No, you know what I mean, Like, 639 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.960 it doesn't exist there doesn't. 640 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.079 It doesn't in Tel Aviv though, just so you know, yeah, 641 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:38.000 it doesn't tel Aviv. Right, So I think that's a 642 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.480 whole different, different issue. But I think to your point, 643 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.519 the is it really depends on what this young person 644 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.760 did or didn't. Yeah, if it's just purely disagreeing with 645 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:55.480 US born policy, which clearly US Americans disagree all the 646 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.719 time with each other, I would hope that that would 647 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.400 not fall into the category that somebody. 648 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.559 Could be Yeah, yeah, like you called it, it's a 649 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:11.920 slippery slope. I mean if he's like a facilitator to 650 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.360 that level, I get it, right, I get it. You 651 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.400 you know, you can't be cannot be screwing around like that. 652 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:23.000 But if you're just some intellectual who's you know, organizing 653 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.239 a protest and there happens to be a girl like 654 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:31.159 a lesbians per Hamas or whatever their slogans might be, yeah, 655 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.960 I can't. There's like degrees to it, right, It's a 656 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.079 spectrum of like yeah, are you or aren't you? 657 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.280 And there's also the harassment apt you know part of 658 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.880 this Jewish student. Yeah, Jewish students should feel like they're 659 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.119 under threat at their own college for sure, anywhere in 660 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.440 the US. Right, And that that was uh, And I 661 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.920 don't Again, I don't know this person did any of that. 662 00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.920 But that's another reason why I think these colleges and 663 00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:03.679 universities are under some much criticism is they're basically allowing 664 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:09.199 the speech they agree with. You know you and I 665 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.199 can understand why you wouldn't, but you set a neo 666 00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.280 Nazi on on Columbia University and see how long they 667 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.840 last and their protests and see how long they and 668 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.440 you know, obviously not promoting your Nazis. But if you're 669 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.679 totally cool with you know, vandalism and taking over buildings 670 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:32.639 and all that with with speech and activity you agree with, 671 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.119 you know, it should be content neutral for them too. 672 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.960 If it's not, then they're just actively promoting one particular side. 673 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.679 But and if they want to do that, then they'll 674 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.960 they'll have the consequences when they can see right now, 675 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.360 you know, huge amounts of federal fundings getting cut off 676 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.039 to a lot of these universe I saw that as well. 677 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.599 Yeah, yeah, so it's something to keep an eye on, uh, 678 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.920 for sure, for a multitude of reasons. Last bit was 679 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.480 we smoked an isis a mere top guy in ISIS. 680 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.360 It seems like and this name will allude me till 681 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:12.079 the end of time. 682 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.239 Media is his terrorist name? Yeah? 683 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:23.719 Uh, and uh they're like Sangkam released the footage of it. 684 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:26.519 He was driving along in a in a car and 685 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.800 you got smoked by I don't know what, a couple 686 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.519 of hell fires maybe. 687 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.480 Yeah, And so a couple of points on him. He 688 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.840 was he was essentially in charge of ISIS in Iraq 689 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.239 and Syria and the deputy overall worldwide. Right, so big success. 690 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.639 You know, according to reports it was done through working 691 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:56.079 with Iraqi intelligence obviously, our intelligency I and our Kurdish 692 00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.400 partners and the US military, uh is the one that 693 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:03.719 brought the hammer. So hats off to all of them 694 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:09.000 these and they were apparently wearing suicide mess when they 695 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.199 got them. Yeah, so they probably had that. You know, 696 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.360 some of them do that because they know that one 697 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.800 day there could be you know, uh, their door could 698 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.760 play off the hinges and you know, uh, some US 699 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.719 soldiers could be storming in there. So sometimes they wear 700 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.119 those constantly. But hey, good work. The I think the 701 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:33.559 big thing to take away from that is isis is 702 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.559 going to keep going. We can't just unilately declare victory 703 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.199 or the global war on terrorism. That's not how it works. 704 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.079 It's going to keep going. It's it's it's more like 705 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.719 you know, the fight against crime. You never see cops 706 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.800 like sitting around going, oh, crimes over. Yeah, it's you 707 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.280 just got to accept that terrorism is not it's gonna 708 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.639 abb and flow, but it's gonna stay as long as 709 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.119 the conditions that make it so or the case. And 710 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.280 we have to be ready to keep fighting and fight, 711 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.519 and I think the Trump administration things they did since 712 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.280 coming into office, they've powered down the decision to take 713 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.800 these strikes. I think that's a good idea. 714 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.280 And they've given it to commanders in the field. 715 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:20.159 Right, Yeah, so there's four star command you know, general officers, 716 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:25.079 whether our capitals or generals that are combatant commanders. Right. So, uh, 717 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.079 General Carilla is the saidcom commander. I think I think 718 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.320 we should be fully confident in him and every other 719 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:38.639 combatant commander's ability to make an assessment based on the 720 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.159 policy they've been told by the President and the Secretary 721 00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.119 of Defense. Yeah right, I think we should trust them 722 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.280 to do that, and hopefully that same cases is also 723 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.639 for CEI strikes. These these these are they're not a 724 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.960 they're not a magic bullet, right, So they're not going 725 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.440 to end the war on terrorism. But if there's an 726 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:02.119 eminent threat, the answer is either we send in you know, 727 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:06.679 either military forces Jaysock or my old unit, which puts 728 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.000 a lot of people at risk, or we take them 729 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.440 out with ammunition that is specifically designed to kill the 730 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.480 intended target by nobody around. We've actually done a great job, 731 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:20.840 I think getting to a point where we can do that, 732 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.320 and I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the I don't 733 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.320 I would don't want to risk the force if I 734 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.480 don't have to. Sure, And if you could take these 735 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:34.480 guys off the battle space and we could do it quicker, 736 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.239 if the combatant commander or you know, their equivalent at 737 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.599 CI's making that determination that I'm for it. 738 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.920 Yeah, Yeah, I can't see how anybody would be against it, 739 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.480 to be frank, even my you know pink O Kami 740 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.280 asses uh for it too. 741 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:52.920 You know what I mean. 742 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.880 Smoke as many isis guy's as gay hands on on 743 00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:59.840 a scale of one to ten. How good? How ma 744 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:06.000 of allies and partner force are the Kurds? I know 745 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.440 you hate these questions, Well one. 746 00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.960 Ten I am. I spent a lot of time with 747 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:18.639 the Kurdish forces, the pesh Marga in Iraq. Yeah. I 748 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.920 was on the team that went in uh way before 749 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:26.679 the war started and helped organize the PESCHEMRGA became essentially 750 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:28.960 the Northern Front, right. The idea is we're going to 751 00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.360 have a whole US division there. Turkey wouldnt allow it, 752 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.440 uh So it was basically just a handful of CI 753 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:41.639 folks like myself and Army special forces, particularly tenth Group. 754 00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.440 UH set out to retire Lieutenant Colonel Ken Tobo, who 755 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.920 was a lieutenant colonel at the dime, he's now a 756 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:52.840 lieutenant general retired and all the Kurds, and I got 757 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.079 to tell you, they fought. They fought like freaking warriors, 758 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.239 and that's why they're US military and CIA is so 759 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.800 fond of the Kurds. Quite frankly, they've their partner you 760 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:06.159 can trust one hundred percent. And Uh, they were the 761 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:12.519 Northern Front, which essentially kept about thirteen Iraqi Suddam, you know, 762 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:17.119 Republican Guard divisions into the north to not you know, 763 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.920 fight the US Army and US Marine Corps coming from 764 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.440 the south. Well, thank thank thank you Kurds. Uh, and 765 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.760 they you know, were outnumbered and and essentially didn't have 766 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:31.719 anything near the level of modern military equipment as the 767 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.840 Republican cards, but but not only held them up there, 768 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.599 but pushed all the way into Baghdad. So I'm a 769 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.760 big fan of the Peshmerga. Obviously have a lot of 770 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.639 connections with the Kurds and the SDF. So I think 771 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:52.559 the SDF, particularly with the US military and CIA in Syria, 772 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:56.079 I mean, they've they've they won, they beat. They defeated. 773 00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:00.440 Isis right without them, And they're not all Kurds, you know, 774 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.320 that's some mot of a misnomer. The leadership is primarily 775 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.280 Kurdish to YPG, and they have a lot of Arab 776 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.639 soldiers as well, but they that's one of the best 777 00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:14.960 programs we've run with the partners period. I mean, we've 778 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.840 basically put very few Americans on the ground, predominantly Jaysock, 779 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:26.960 predominantly Jaysock, the army component and the CIA, and they 780 00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:31.199 did ninety nine percent of the fighting and we're highly effective. 781 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.480 And you know, yes, it's caused issues with our relationship 782 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.280 with Turkey, but I think if you talk to most 783 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.719 military US military and SAI folks, they have the same 784 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.880 opinion that I do when it comes to their quality 785 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.199 of a partner, their ability and willingness to fight with us, 786 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.400 alongside us and for a very common cause. They are 787 00:47:54.559 --> 00:48:01.320 they're pretty you know, all things considered for the region lined. Yeah, 788 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.480 with the you know, with the right human rights. 789 00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.679 And they're secular, they're moderate, Yeah. 790 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:13.159 Yep, they accept other religions. Women are have significant roles 791 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:18.760 in their government and in their military. Yeah. They they've 792 00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:23.320 got some really good soldiers female soldiers, and I think 793 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:28.239 there's several books written about so we need to maintain 794 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.559 our partnership with them for our own interest and you know, 795 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.440 over time it benefits both us and them. And I 796 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.599 think that's what any partnership, you know, whether it's strategic 797 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:46.159 global nation states to you know, entities like the SDF 798 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.400 or just personal relationships. You know, partnerships are as good 799 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.239 as you are both willing to put in the effort. 800 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.360 Taking that as like a nine point six out of ten, 801 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:00.679 I'll say, yeah, yeah. 802 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.800 I don't know better partners. So I mean if you said, well, 803 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:07.840 who's better, I mean I don't. Yeah. Again, I'm biased, 804 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:12.840 but I've I've fought alongside many of many of PESCHBURGA 805 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.280 and I can definitely attribute them to safe in my 806 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.400 you know, my ass many times. 807 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:22.519 So I mean, who's the other partner for us? 808 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:22.840 Really? 809 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.559 Like the A n A or the A m P. 810 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:31.239 Yeah, we had a great partner force, and I'm glad 811 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.079 you brought that up. So there is an issue right now. 812 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.280 The for those that aren't tracking, and I imagine most 813 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.800 of our audience does. But you know, when we withdrew, 814 00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.159 there's this program called the Special Immigrant Pizza so people 815 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.039 who work really closely with the US could come to 816 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:53.880 the United States on this special visa exemption and you know, 817 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.639 eventually become citizens because I've proven their loyalty to the 818 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.360 United States. And of course we turned the damn country 819 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.440 over to the Talib, which is enemy that wants to 820 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.119 kill them all right, right, so they're not all here, 821 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.000 and I don't I don't want to give the wrong numbers, 822 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:08.519 but I was looking it up because I was talking 823 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.840 to people about it last week on the Hill. 824 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:11.039 Here. 825 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.679 There's a lot tens of thousands that are still in 826 00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.159 the process of doing that, and there's some talk about 827 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:25.320 some new immigration restrictions will cut that off, right, And 828 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.239 I think, you know, this isn't shouldn't be a political issue, 829 00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.000 and it ain't for me because I'd stay out of 830 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.480 that stuff. But I would hope that it's particularly the 831 00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.440 Vets that have been involved in this, do let you 832 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.440 know the representatives know that you expect, you know, the 833 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.679 United States to honor their pledge to our partners that 834 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.039 fought in alongside US in Afghanistan, and that any restrictions 835 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.960 to stop them from being given what they were promised 836 00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:02.679 should be not happen here. And hopefully that's gonna be 837 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.079 heard before if it's actually gonna happen. 838 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.960 Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, he's got these people 839 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.119 more than risk their lives. A lot of them lost 840 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:20.679 their lives doing this working with us in Afghanistan, and uh, 841 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:26.920 they're still there, you know, probably under threat every single day. 842 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:29.400 Yeah. 843 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.079 Yeah, So I hope you know they're they're allowed to 844 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:36.039 come here. I hope it's expedited and there's no like 845 00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:44.199 roadblocks put up moving forward. That's all I got. You 846 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.800 got anything else then you want to? Oh? 847 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:49.920 I think we I think we covered. 848 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:56.559 Of course there'll be more as we go along. Mick 849 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.239 fog Bo tell everybody what you do at fogg will 850 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:01.800 explain it people. 851 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:07.840 So we do. We're basically a group that enables humanitarian operations. 852 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.239 A lot of us are. That's so we take our 853 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.039 skills that we learned in the past life and you know, 854 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.840 obviously the mission is different now and the mission's delivering food, 855 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.920 for example, the people who are a critical need, and 856 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.119 it might be by maritime, might be by air, might 857 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.679 be by ground. But that's what we do, and we 858 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:29.199 do and we've been in Gata, We've been in Sudan, 859 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:35.679 we're looking at expanding to Somalia potentially Syria. That's what 860 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:35.880 we do. 861 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.239 Yes, you can check them out fog Bo. The link 862 00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.559 will be in the descriptions of fog Bo dot com. 863 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:45.920 Yeah, the website. 864 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:47.960 I have the link in the description. Check them out 865 00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.239 and see what they do. Of course Lobo Institute as well, 866 00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.480 really cool stuff. That link is in the description too. 867 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.119 If you want to read any of mixed publications, that 868 00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.119 link is also in the description to find them on 869 00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:00.880 social media as well. All the links will be in 870 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:01.760 the description as well. 871 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.760 Please So I on one thing that I forgot. So 872 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.159 we also run an NGO called in Child Soldiering. I 873 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.519 should probably bring that up every week. H It is 874 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:18.480 an edgo that supports both requiring the countries don't use 875 00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.960 children to fight their wars, but also the rehabilitation of 876 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.280 children that were forced to fight. It comes based on 877 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.119 a documentary we did on a child Soldier that got 878 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.519 made into a bestselling book called All the Glimmering Stars 879 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.719 and part of the proceeds of the book goes to 880 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.199 support our and GEO and we just issued the third 881 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.800 Opoco word. Opoka is the name last name of the 882 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.119 the to the man and woman husband wife. We did 883 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.079 a documentary on both child soldiers to the delayre Institute. 884 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.039 The delayre Institute is a group that had been doing 885 00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:59.719 great work. If you remember the movie or book Hotel Rwanda. 886 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:07.400 The Canadian un General that was in the movie is 887 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.840 Romeo de Laire and he started this organization and they, 888 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.239 I think are one of the most active out there, 889 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:21.239 really doing good work to prevent children from being used 890 00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:23.960 as soldiers in to help those that were. And so 891 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.119 the third the Pokeo Award that we've issued from and 892 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:32.239 John Soldier is going to the Delays. They're great work. Cool. 893 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:34.159 Yeah, I'm gonna also place I'll put some links in 894 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.239 the description for that as well, so check them out 895 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.840 all down there if you want to find out more. Guys, 896 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.559 I want you to understand some about Mick. He could 897 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.159 literally be making three or four times more money doing 898 00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:48.159 almost anything else and he's doing the right thing. So 899 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:52.639 that's a little bit about Mick. Just that, FYI, I'm 900 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.000 doing all right. All the other links are in the 901 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.800 description as well for Andy and Jason. Check them out. 902 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.760 Buy some merch if you want package. 903 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.920 And Irish by the Irish Pub on Monday. 904 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:07.400 Yeah, Miami. 905 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.719 Everybody's irish on Monday. 906 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:16.880 Patreon dot com. Yeah, you're just forced to. There's no 907 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:23.880 there's no negotiation there. Thanks Mike. This was great. All 908 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:25.360 right bro, See you guys next time. 909 00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:27.000 Thank you for you next time.