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Speaker 1: And we know victims who were you know, a part

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of that storyline. So how do they sell that they.

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Speaker 2: Don't And this is the significant thing to consider it.

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You know, when part of Trump's assent to power was

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that he ran on conspiracy theories, I mean he organized

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power and built it on it used to be considered

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the fringes and the vehicle the fuel for that were

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all these conspiracy theories that he was tapping into and harnessing.

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Now he's running away from them, right, So he's not

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trying to sell it. He's not trying to paper it over,

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he's not trying to repackage it and give it back

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to people. And that's the part that's significant about all

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of this, because those wheels are still spinning out there.

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You know, when I look at sort of the narrative,

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the large information landscape, yeah, I think about it as rings.

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You know, people that are diehards that are always engage

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in the political sworld. But then if you go two

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or three rings out, that's where you can really get

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a sense of whether or not the story is beginning

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to prentiate it. What's the vibe, what's the general sense?

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And if you look three rings out right, now the

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Epstein class notion resonates. I mean, they are talking about

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the fact, you know, they're stilling through the files. They're

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trying to figure out whether or not Epstein when he

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was talking about jerky, if he was actually using that

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as code for cannibalism. And that is still churning at

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scale and tied into that is this idea that all

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these bad people did bad things and that the Trump

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and Trump administration are letting them get away with it.

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And more importantly, they're not just letting them get away

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with it, they're actively participating in the cover up. So

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when Trump says things like today, that only reinforces that

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narrative that is out there spinning on himself. So when

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Senator Ossov says that comment about Epstein class, you know,

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it's a cute talking point, but it actually is tapping

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into a sentiment and a sense that is fairly pervasive

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and is metastasizing all on its own.