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Speaker 1: of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful
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Speaker 2: For well, for the better part of a century. Really,
Speaker 2: when astronomers look out at the universe, they've been working
Speaker 2: with a kind of standard cosmic blueprint.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, the LAMB, the CDM model, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And if you followed cosmology at all, you know this
Speaker 2: blueprint is well, it's deeply unsettling.
Speaker 3: It is a bit strange, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: It says that everything we see, you know, the stars, planets, gas,
Speaker 2: the stuff we interact with normal matter. Right, normal matter
Speaker 2: makes up less than five percent of everything that's out there.
Speaker 3: That's the picture. Yes, the huge majority, like ninety of
Speaker 3: the universe is completely theoretical. It's unseen, undetectable directly anyway.
Speaker 2: And then ninety percent is split.
Speaker 3: Correct between cold dark matter or CDM, which acts like
Speaker 3: extra gravitational.
Speaker 2: Scaffolding holding galaxies together.
Speaker 3: Holding structures together.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And then there's Lambda, the Greek letter Lambda that represents
Speaker 3: dark energy.
Speaker 2: The mysterious push making the universe expand faster and faster.
Speaker 3: That's the one. It's this repulsive force driving acceleration the model. Mathematically,
Speaker 3: it actually works incredibly well for describing observations. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the big butt is that it requires us to accept
Speaker 3: that reality is fundamentally dominated by these two components that
Speaker 3: we just cannot find. We haven't detected them.
Speaker 2: Directly, and that huge puzzle is what we're diving into today.
Speaker 2: We're exploring a really radical new hypothesis.
Speaker 3: Truly radical.
Speaker 2: Yes, it suggests this entire dark sector, this, you know,
Speaker 2: ninety five percent needed to make the standard model work.
Speaker 2: Maybe it doesn't actually exist as substances anyway, right, Maybe
Speaker 2: it's just a cosmic illusion. We're looking at the work
Speaker 2: of Professor Rajendra Gupta from the University of Ottawa and.
Speaker 3: He's really challenging the foundations here totally.
Speaker 2: He's questioning the whole structure of modern cosmology.
Speaker 3: His core idea, and it's a big one, is that
Speaker 3: what we interpret as dark matter and dark energy, they
Speaker 3: aren't mysterious particles or fields Instead, they're just the effects
Speaker 3: we observe because the basic strengths of nature's forces think gravity,
Speaker 3: electromagnetism are actually slowly weakening over cosmic time, weakening and
Speaker 3: varying and varying subtly as the universe expands and ages.
Speaker 3: This is huge because physics has always, i mean always
Speaker 3: assumed these fundamental constants are just that constant, immutable.
Speaker 2: Wow. So okay, this isn't just tweaking an equation or
Speaker 2: looking for a new particle.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, far beyond that.
Speaker 2: This is proposing that the actual rules of the physical
Speaker 2: universe might be a changing over billions of years.
Speaker 3: That's the proposition.
Speaker 2: Before we get deeper into how this works, let's just
Speaker 2: clarify the names you mentioned Lambda CDM as the standard.
Speaker 2: What's the alternative framework GOOPED is putting forward.
Speaker 3: Called right, the new model is called CCC plus TL cosmology.
Speaker 3: It's quite a mouthful, I.
Speaker 2: Know, CCC plus TL. Okay, let's break that down. What
Speaker 2: do those letters stand for?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's technical, but crucial. CCC stands for coverying coupling constants.
Speaker 2: Coverying coupling constant.
Speaker 3: That's the key mechanism. It means the fundamental constants like
Speaker 3: G the gravitational constant, or see the speed of light,
Speaker 3: aren't fixed numbers. They change slowly. They co vary as
Speaker 3: the universe gets older.
Speaker 2: So if gravity was, say, slightly stronger billions of years
Speaker 2: ago than it is now.
Speaker 3: Exactly that changes everything. How we interpret distances, how we
Speaker 3: measure cosmic time. All of it gets recalibrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the CCC part. What about the TL.
Speaker 3: The TL stands for tired light. Tired light.
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar. Isn't that an older idea that was
Speaker 2: mostly discarded?
Speaker 3: It is, but this is a modified version integrated with
Speaker 3: the CCC part. The basic tired light idea was that
Speaker 3: light loses energy just by traveling vast cosmic distances.
Speaker 2: Making it look redder, red shifted.
Speaker 3: Precisely in this CCC plus TL model, the red shift
Speaker 3: we see from distant galaxies isn't only because space itself
Speaker 3: is stretching, which is the standard view.
Speaker 2: Right the expansion of space.
Speaker 3: Instead, it's partly due to this intrinsic energy loss plus
Speaker 3: the effects of the covering constants. It's combined effect. Gooptet
Speaker 3: uses this combination to fundamentally reset our cosmic measuring tape.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see. So if the constants aren't constant and
Speaker 2: redshift isn't purely expansion, then our whole map of the universe,
Speaker 2: its size, it's history, it all has to be.
Speaker 3: Reevaluated, completely reevaluated.
Speaker 2: So let's get into the core claim. Then, if these
Speaker 2: forces are changing, how on Earth does that explain both
Speaker 2: the accelerating expansion of the universe and the weird way
Speaker 2: galaxies rotate. These seem like totally different problems on vastly
Speaker 2: different scales.
Speaker 3: And that is the central sho with land to CDM,
Speaker 3: isn't it, And it's precisely the main attraction of the
Speaker 3: CCC plus tl IDEA. Standard cosmology needs those dark components
Speaker 3: because we have these two distinct sets of observations.
Speaker 2: One huge one relatively small.
Speaker 3: Exactly observations on completely different scales that just don't fit
Speaker 3: if you only use the visible matter we see. And crucially,
Speaker 3: land to CDM needs two totally different fixes conceptually and
Speaker 3: mathematically for these two problems.
Speaker 2: All right, let's tackle the big one first, dark energy.
Speaker 2: This operates on the cosmological scale right looking at the
Speaker 2: universe as a whole, where things are assumed to be
Speaker 2: sort of uniform.
Speaker 3: Precisely, we're talking scales larger than say, six hundred million
Speaker 3: light years across. On that scale, the universe looks statistically homogeneous,
Speaker 3: basically the same everywhere, smooth, uniform.
Speaker 2: And the standard model observation there is that.
Speaker 3: The expansion of the universe isn't just happening, it's speeding up.
Speaker 2: It's accelerating, which is weird, like throwing a ball up
Speaker 2: and having it go faster and faster instead of slowing down.
Speaker 3: That's the analogy. Yes, it defies gravitational intuition. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: to explain this, standard cosmology introduces dark energy lamba. It's
Speaker 3: effectively an unknown repulsive force, maybe an energy inherent to
Speaker 3: empty space itself, pushing everything apart.
Speaker 2: It's basically a fudge factor. Then something added to the
Speaker 2: equations to make them match the observation of acceleration.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a parameter added Einstein's equations that acts like
Speaker 3: a repulsive force. Whether it's a fudge factor or a
Speaker 3: real physical entity is the big debate. But yes, it's
Speaker 3: put there specifically to explain the acceleration.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the standard view. A mysterious push across
Speaker 2: the vast uniform cosmos. How does Gukta's model with just
Speaker 2: weakening forces achieve the same effect, no push needed.
Speaker 3: It's a very neat substitution. Actually, if the universe's fundamental
Speaker 3: forces like gravity or weakening, on average uniformly across these
Speaker 3: vast scales as the universe expands, think about it. The
Speaker 3: gravitational pull that's trying to hold the universe together is
Speaker 3: getting weaker over time, like a.
Speaker 2: Stretched rubber band that's slowly dissolving.
Speaker 3: Good analogy. The effect of this diminishing pole looks exactly
Speaker 3: like the effect of some external repulsive push. The universe
Speaker 3: appears to accelerate outwards, not because there's a stronger engine
Speaker 3: pushing it dark energy, but because the brake's holding it
Speaker 3: back gravity are getting weaker.
Speaker 2: Huh. That's clever if f lips the cause and effect.
Speaker 2: So the big scale expansion problem is potentially solved by
Speaker 2: this global weakening of forces over time.
Speaker 3: That's the proposal for the cosmological scale.
Speaker 2: Yes, so now we have to zoom way way in
Speaker 2: down to the scale of individual galaxies and clusters. The
Speaker 2: astrophysical scale, This is where dark matter is supposed to live.
Speaker 3: We shift scales completely now we're talking about gravitationally bound systems, galaxies,
Speaker 3: galaxy groups. The universe here is not uniform at all.
Speaker 3: It's incredibly lumpy. Matter distribution is everything.
Speaker 2: And the classic dark matter problem arises from how galaxies rotate. Right,
Speaker 2: stars on the outskirts are moving way too fast.
Speaker 3: Way too fast. If you just can't up the mass
Speaker 3: of the stars gas and dust. You can see there
Speaker 3: isn't nearly enough gravity to hold onto those outer stars.
Speaker 3: They should just fly off into intergalactic space. Based on
Speaker 3: Newtonian physics or general relativity alone, so.
Speaker 2: The standard fix.
Speaker 3: The standard fix is to embed the visible galaxy within
Speaker 3: a huge invisible sphere, a halo made of cold dark
Speaker 3: matter CDM. This invisible mass provides the extra gravitational pull
Speaker 3: needed to keep the outer stars orbiting quickly, matching.
Speaker 2: Observations creating those flat rotation curves we observe exactly.
Speaker 3: But it requires inventing a new type of matter, maybe
Speaker 3: a wimp, a weakly interacting massive particle, something that has
Speaker 3: mass and gravity but doesn't interact with light, hence dark.
Speaker 2: Okay, now the big question, how does the CCC plus
Speaker 2: TL model with just its varying constants generate that same
Speaker 2: effect that extra gravity at the local galactic scale without
Speaker 2: needing any invisible matter halo.
Speaker 3: Right here, the mechanism changes focuses. It's not about the
Speaker 3: average weakening of forces over cosmic time anymore, which explained
Speaker 3: the dark energy effect. Okay, now, it's about the spatial
Speaker 3: variation of the forces within and around these lumpy structures
Speaker 3: like galaxies.
Speaker 2: Spatial variation, so the strength of gravity changes from place
Speaker 2: to place within a galaxy.
Speaker 3: In effect, yes, at the smaller lumpy scale, the very
Speaker 3: presence and distribution of normal matter, the stars, the gas,
Speaker 3: the central black hole causes the fundamental coupling constants themselves
Speaker 3: to vary locally.
Speaker 2: Spatially, So the constants aren't just changing smoothly over billions
Speaker 2: of years, they're also fluctuating depending on what matter is nearby.
Speaker 3: That's the idea, and this localized spatial variation in the
Speaker 3: constant generates an effect that modifies gravity, providing the extra
Speaker 3: pull that we currently attribute to dark matter.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I need to make sure I've got this straight.
Speaker 2: And for everyone listening. On the huge cosmic scale, the
Speaker 2: forces weaken uniformly over time, mimicking dark energy.
Speaker 3: Correct like a global average trend.
Speaker 2: But zoom into a lumpy galaxy and the forces vary
Speaker 2: in space reacting to the clumps of normal matter mimicking
Speaker 2: dark matter.
Speaker 3: That's the crucial distinction. The effect arises from the let's
Speaker 3: call them gravitational field modifications generated by these spatial fluctuations
Speaker 3: of the constants around dense objects.
Speaker 2: This is where it gets really interesting and potentially very powerful,
Speaker 2: because in the standard lambda CDM model, you need two
Speaker 2: completely different mathematical.
Speaker 3: Tools, right, absolutely different. You use cosmological fluid equations and
Speaker 3: the Freedman equations to handle lambda dark energy on large scales,
Speaker 3: and for dark matter, for dark matter halos and structure formation,
Speaker 3: you need complex end body simulations tracking millions of hypothetical
Speaker 3: dark matter particles interacting gravitationally. Totally separate physics, separate simulations.
Speaker 2: But Gupta's CCC plus TL approach.
Speaker 3: Claims to explain both the cosmic acceleration and the galactic
Speaker 3: quotation curves using the same underlying physical principle and the
Speaker 3: same core equation. Wow, the unity comes from a single idea.
Speaker 3: The effects we observe are just emergent properties of fundamental
Speaker 3: constants varying with cosmic age and local density. You don't
Speaker 3: need to add two separate mysterious ingredients to the cosmic soup.
Speaker 2: So instead of inventing a particle CDM and a field lambda,
Speaker 2: Goopta says, it's all down to one principle. The rules
Speaker 2: of physics aren't fixed.
Speaker 3: They're dynamic.
Speaker 2: That has a certain elegance to it, doesn't it. It
Speaker 2: simplifies things massively conceptually, at least, it changes the question
Speaker 2: from what new stuff is out there to how constant
Speaker 2: are the rules we thought we knew precisely?
Speaker 3: And that kind of theoretical economy is very appealing in physics.
Speaker 3: If a theory can unify disparate phenomena with a single
Speaker 3: underlying mechanism, it gains a lot of attention. It suggests
Speaker 3: maybe ninety five percent of the universe's observed behavior isn't
Speaker 3: due to unknown components, but arises from the dynamics of
Speaker 3: the five percent we can see and its interaction with
Speaker 3: evolving laws.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's dig into that mechanism a bit more, especially
Speaker 2: for the galaxies, because explaining those rotation terms without dark
Speaker 2: matter is notoriously difficult for modified gravity theories. How does
Speaker 2: this variation of constants actually create this this gravitational impostor.
Speaker 3: This involves a key mathematical parameter that emerges from the theory,
Speaker 3: usually denoted by the Greek letter alpha qulpha.
Speaker 2: Okay, is alpha a particle a field.
Speaker 3: Neither think of belbi as a mathematical term, a parameter
Speaker 3: that represents the effect of the evolving constants within the
Speaker 3: gravitational field equations when you allow the coupling constants to
Speaker 3: change over time in varying space. According to the CCC
Speaker 3: plus TL framework, this alpha term naturally appears in the math.
Speaker 2: So alpha quantifies the gravitational effect of the changing forces.
Speaker 3: You can put it that way. Yes, it quantifies the
Speaker 3: modification to standard gravity caused by the varying constants.
Speaker 2: And how does this mathematical term manage to do the
Speaker 2: job of a massive halo of invisible matter? How does
Speaker 2: it provide that extra pull?
Speaker 3: Effectively? Alpha inserts itself into the gravitational equations. It acts.
Speaker 3: It's like an extra term that modifies the strength of gravity.
Speaker 3: But crucially, its strength depends on the local conditions.
Speaker 2: Ah. Okay, so it's not a uniform effect.
Speaker 3: Not at all on the local scale. This alpha term
Speaker 3: provides the needed extra gravitational influence. To explain both the
Speaker 3: flat rotation curves and galaxies, and when treated differently on
Speaker 3: large scales, the cosmic acceleration.
Speaker 2: The key must be how alpha behaves differently depending on
Speaker 2: the scale. Right, A standard dark matter halo is usually
Speaker 2: pictured as this big, smooth, relatively static blob of stuff.
Speaker 3: Right. CDM halos are generally modeled as smooth distributions largely
Speaker 3: independent of the visible matter within them.
Speaker 2: But if alpha comes from evolving constants interacting with normal matter,
Speaker 2: its effect must be tied directly to where the normal
Speaker 2: matter is exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the critical difference. Alpha's is dynamic and highly scale dependent.
Speaker 3: On the huge cosmological scales where we dealt with the
Speaker 3: dark energy problem, we can approximate the universe's uniform so
Speaker 3: alpha is treated essentially as a simple constant value.
Speaker 2: There determined by fitting data like from supernovae.
Speaker 3: Correct assuming homogeneighty, lets us treat it as a single
Speaker 3: number for the whole universe at a given cosmic time.
Speaker 2: Then you zoom into one specific galaxy. You've got stars, gas,
Speaker 2: a black hole. Maybe the matter distribution is incredibly clumpy,
Speaker 2: not uniform.
Speaker 3: At all, extremely non uniform and that's where alpha gets
Speaker 3: interesting locally. At this astrophysical scale, Alpha itself varies significantly
Speaker 3: in space. Why because its value, its strength arises from
Speaker 3: the interplay between the evolving constants and the local concentration
Speaker 3: of standard matter. So the gravitational modification generated by alpha
Speaker 3: depends heavily on how much normal stuff is nearby and
Speaker 3: how it's ranged.
Speaker 2: So alpha isn't some independent halo. Its effect is directly
Speaker 2: coupled to the visible matter.
Speaker 3: Precisely, it's not an added substance. It's a modification of
Speaker 3: gravity induced by the normal matter within the context of
Speaker 3: evolving constants.
Speaker 2: Okay, and this leads to what sounds like a really
Speaker 2: counterintuitive prediction, something about an inverse relationship with density. Can
Speaker 2: you explain that again, Because normally more mass means more gravity,
Speaker 2: simple as.
Speaker 3: That, Right, This requires a bit of a mental shift.
Speaker 3: We're not adding extra mass here, we're modifying the gravitational
Speaker 3: field itself. The theory predicts this inverse relationship in regions
Speaker 3: where you have a very high density of normal visible matter,
Speaker 3: like the dense inner core.
Speaker 2: Of a galaxy, where gravity from stars and gas is
Speaker 2: already really strong.
Speaker 3: Exactly in those regions, the additional gravitational effect caused by
Speaker 3: this alpha mechanism is actually less significant relative to the
Speaker 3: already powerful gravity from the normal matter.
Speaker 2: Okay, And the flip side.
Speaker 3: Conversely, out in the regions where the density of detectable
Speaker 3: standard matter is very low, like the faint outer edges
Speaker 3: of a spiral galaxy, far from.
Speaker 2: The core, where normal gravity should be getting much weaker.
Speaker 3: Yes, where Newtonian gravity is dropping off rapidly. In those regions,
Speaker 3: the extra gravitational effect generated by alpha becomes larger, more dominant.
Speaker 2: Wait, that sounds backwards. Why would the extra gravity effect
Speaker 2: be weaker where normal gravity is strong, and stronger where
Speaker 2: normal gravity is weak.
Speaker 3: Think of it like this. Maybe in the dense galactic center,
Speaker 3: the gravitational field is already so intense due to all
Speaker 3: the stars and gas that the modification effect from the
Speaker 3: varying constants is somehow saturated or maybe just less noticeable
Speaker 3: compared to the immense gravity already there. It's like trying
Speaker 3: to make a small ripple in a storm tossed c
Speaker 3: The effect is negligible, okay, But as you move outwards,
Speaker 3: the gravity from the visible matter falls off dramatically. Remember
Speaker 3: the inverse square law it gets weak very quickly. At
Speaker 3: that point, the modification effect, this gravitational imposter alpha generated
Speaker 3: by the local spatial variation of the constants in that
Speaker 3: low density environment, that becomes the main player influencing the
Speaker 3: orbits of the outer stars. Its relative contribution becomes much larger.
Speaker 2: So the modification effect kicks in most strongly, precisely where
Speaker 2: standard gravity predicts things should be slowing down, but they aren't.
Speaker 3: That's the claim. It's not about adding mass, It's about
Speaker 3: the geometry of the gravitational field itself being altered, and
Speaker 3: that alteration is most pronounced where the gravity from normal matter.
Speaker 2: Is weakest, and that altered field provides the extra pole
Speaker 2: needed to keep those outer stars moving fast. Explaining the
Speaker 2: flat rotation curves exactly.
Speaker 3: It generates the required extra force without invoking any new
Speaker 3: exotic dark matter particles or halos. It's presented as a
Speaker 3: unified fix using just the dynamics of known forces and constants.
Speaker 2: It really all comes down to accepting that foundational premise
Speaker 2: that the constants of nature aren't truly constant over cosmic time.
Speaker 2: That's the lynchpin, and if you accept that, wow, the
Speaker 2: implications just ripple outwards. It doesn't just change what the
Speaker 2: universe is made of. It changes how old it is,
Speaker 2: maybe even where we should be looking for answers.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and one of the first major implications addresses a
Speaker 3: real headache in standard cosmology, something that's become even more
Speaker 3: apparent with recent observations.
Speaker 2: You mean the age puzzle, the age.
Speaker 3: Puzzle exactly where it's sometimes called the impossible early galaxies problem.
Speaker 2: Right, This is about telescopes like James Webb finding these
Speaker 2: incredibly massive, well formed galaxies surprisingly early in the universe's history.
Speaker 3: Stunningly early. JWST keeps sending back images of galaxies that
Speaker 3: look remarkably mature, massive, structurally complex, existing at very high redshifts.
Speaker 3: That means we're seeing them as they were less than
Speaker 3: a billion years, maybe even just a few hundred million
Speaker 3: years after the Big.
Speaker 2: Bang, and under the standard timeline.
Speaker 3: Under the standard LAMBA CDM timeline, which puts the age
Speaker 3: of the universe at about thirteen point eight billion years,
Speaker 3: there just doesn't seem to be enough time for gravity
Speaker 3: to pull matter together, let it cool, form stars, and
Speaker 3: assemble these huge, ordered structures so quickly.
Speaker 2: It's like finding a fully grown ancient oak tree just
Speaker 2: weeks after planting an acorn. Standard physics struggles to explain
Speaker 2: that rapid formation.
Speaker 3: It's a real tension point. How did structure form so fast?
Speaker 2: So how does goop? Does evolving constance Model ceec C
Speaker 2: plus TL help with this?
Speaker 3: Well, remember how the model combines coverying, coupling constants and
Speaker 3: tired light. That combination fundamentally changes how we calculate cosmic
Speaker 3: distances and time scales based on redshift.
Speaker 2: It recalibrates the cosmic clock.
Speaker 3: It effectively stretches out the entire history of the universe.
Speaker 3: Gupta's specific calculations based on CVC plus TL suggests the
Speaker 3: model almost doubles the inferred age of the universe.
Speaker 2: Doubles it wait from thirteen point eight billion.
Speaker 3: Years to roughly twenty six point seven billion years.
Speaker 2: Twenty six point seven billion years, that's almost thirteen billion
Speaker 2: extra years of cosmic history.
Speaker 3: It's a monumental difference. Suddenly you have vastly more time
Speaker 3: in the early universe, and that extra time, that extra
Speaker 3: time provides ample room for the standard processes of gravitational collapse, cooling,
Speaker 3: star formation, and galaxy assembly to happen gradually. Those massive
Speaker 3: early galaxies seen by web are no longer impossible. They
Speaker 3: just had almost twice as long to form as we
Speaker 3: previously thought.
Speaker 2: So the universe becomes older, maybe ca elmer, more patient
Speaker 2: in its evolution.
Speaker 3: Exactly. It allows for passive evolution over a much longer timescale,
Speaker 3: which fits naturally with the observations without needing exotic super
Speaker 3: fast formation scenarios.
Speaker 2: That's a really compelling point. It connects two seemingly unrelated
Speaker 2: big problems, galaxy rotation and early galaxy formation, and potentially
Speaker 2: solves both with the same shift. In fundamental physics, the
Speaker 2: evolving constant a.
Speaker 3: Strong argument for the model's coherence.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, but let's talk about the practical side the
Speaker 2: So what for science today If this theory turns out
Speaker 2: to be right, or even partially right, what does it
Speaker 2: mean for all the effort going into searching for dark
Speaker 2: matter particles?
Speaker 3: Right now, that's the potentially enormous consequence. If the effects
Speaker 3: we attribute to dark matter are actually due to gravity
Speaker 3: behaving differently because constants are evolving.
Speaker 2: Then there's no dark matter particle.
Speaker 3: Defined correct, No WIMPs, no axions, no exotic particles making
Speaker 3: up these halos. It would imply that the massive incredibly
Speaker 3: sense sincative experiments build deep underground, like the.
Speaker 2: Xenon detectors trying to catch a wimp bumping into a nucleus.
Speaker 3: Exactly, those experiments, costing billions of dollars and involving decades
Speaker 3: of effort, might be searching for something that simply doesn't
Speaker 3: exist in that form. They could be looking for a
Speaker 3: ghost conjured by our assumption of constant physical laws.
Speaker 2: Wow. Think of the resources the scientific brain power focused
Speaker 2: on that direct detection effort. If this alternative is correct,
Speaker 2: that effort might need a major redirection.
Speaker 3: It would fundamentally shift the focus of particle cosmology and astrophysics.
Speaker 3: And this brings us back to that idea of simplicity,
Speaker 3: the principle often called Oukham's razor.
Speaker 2: Right, the idea that the simplest explanation is often the best.
Speaker 2: How does Gupta frame his theory as simpler than the
Speaker 2: standard LAMB to CDM model.
Speaker 3: He makes a pretty stark quantitative point. He argues that
Speaker 3: even if scientists do eventually detect some new exotic particle
Speaker 3: that could be a dark matter candidate.
Speaker 2: Which hasn't happened yet despite decades of searching.
Speaker 3: Right, But even if they did to explain the astronomical observations,
Speaker 3: the galaxy rotation, the cosmic structure, that dark matter would
Speaker 3: need to account for about eighty five percent of all
Speaker 3: matter in the universe. That means it would have to
Speaker 3: outweigh all the normal matter protons, neutrons, electrons by a
Speaker 3: factor of about six to one.
Speaker 2: So you'd have to accept that for every one part
Speaker 2: of the stuff we know exists, there are six parts
Speaker 2: of some completely different, invisible, exotic stuff dominating the universe's
Speaker 2: mass budget.
Speaker 3: Exactly, you have to invent this enormous amount of unseen
Speaker 3: substance just to make the standard equations work with constant laws.
Speaker 2: Whereas the CCC plus t HEL model, the evolving constance
Speaker 2: theory argues it simpler.
Speaker 3: It doesn't invent new substances. It proposes a modification to
Speaker 3: the behavior of the substances and forces we already know exist,
Speaker 3: driven by their interaction with the evolving universe itself. It
Speaker 3: uses the five percent of visible matter plus changing rules
Speaker 3: to explain the observations attributed to the other ninety five percent.
Speaker 2: Shifts the burden. Instead of finding new ingredients, we need
Speaker 2: to rigorously pest if the fundamental rules themselves are stable.
Speaker 3: That's the core argument for its elegance test the foundations
Speaker 3: before adding vast unseen complexities.
Speaker 2: Tying this all together, then it really suggests a potential
Speaker 2: paradigm shift in how we even approach physics, doesn't It
Speaker 2: Maybe moving away from adding new particles or fields every
Speaker 2: time there's an anomaly.
Speaker 3: Yes, away from what some might call ad hoc.
Speaker 2: Additions, and focusing instead on whether the laws and constances
Speaker 2: we've assumed to be absolute might actually be dynamic variable
Speaker 2: evolving with the universe.
Speaker 3: It forces us to question our most basic assumptions. For centuries,
Speaker 3: the constancy of constance has been bedrock. If that bedrock
Speaker 3: is actually shifting, even incredibly slowly, then our whole understanding changes.
Speaker 3: When we look billions of light years away, we're not
Speaker 3: just looking back in time.
Speaker 2: We're potentially looking at a universe operating under slightly different
Speaker 2: physical rules. Gravity might have been stronger or weaker, the
Speaker 2: speed of life light it might have been different.
Speaker 3: Precisely, that means every distant observation needs to be interpreted
Speaker 3: through that lens of potentially changing laws. It adds a
Speaker 3: whole new layer of complexity, but maybe it necessary.
Speaker 2: One, Okay, so summing up this deep dive, the core
Speaker 2: takeaway is pretty mind bending. The biggest mysteries in the cosmos,
Speaker 2: dark matter, dark energy might not be about hidden particles
Speaker 2: making up ninety five percent of reality.
Speaker 3: They might be cosmological illusions.
Speaker 2: Tricks played on us by the incredibly slow, subtle evolution
Speaker 2: of nature's fundamental constants over billions of years. The universe
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily filled with invisible stuff. Maybe it displays by
Speaker 2: slightly different rules over vast distances and times.
Speaker 3: And the appeal is that it offers potential unification. It's
Speaker 3: a single framework CCC plus TL that attempts to explain
Speaker 3: galaxy rotation, large scale structure, light bending, and cosmic acceleration
Speaker 3: with one consistent physical idea evolving natural forces.
Speaker 2: It provides that potential Aha moment, suggesting maybe the underlying
Speaker 2: reality is simpler than the complex lambda CDM model implies.
Speaker 3: It challenges the standard model across the board, from the
Speaker 3: smoothest cosmic scales down to the details of individual galaxies.
Speaker 2: Which brings us to a final thought, something for you
Speaker 2: the listener to really chew on. Professor Gupta finishes his
Speaker 2: paper by saying, sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.
Speaker 3: One, a classic appeal to Akham's razor.
Speaker 2: But this whole idea of evolving constants raises a really
Speaker 2: profound question about the future, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: It absolutely does. If the fundamental forces like gravity are
Speaker 3: indeed weakening over cosmic time, which is the engine driving
Speaker 3: this whole CCCT plus TL theory, what does that actually
Speaker 3: imply for the ultimate fate of the universe?
Speaker 2: Our current predictions, things like the big freeze or maybe
Speaker 2: a big rip, they all depend heavily on how dark
Speaker 2: energy and gravity behave now and assume they'll continue behaving
Speaker 2: that way forever.
Speaker 3: We assume the current strength and laws are static over
Speaker 3: infinite future time.
Speaker 2: But if the forces themselves are constantly of evolving weakening,
Speaker 2: then how reliable are those long term predictions? How much
Speaker 2: of our physical reality is defined by laws that are
Speaker 2: fundamentally transient, not fixed.
Speaker 3: It introduces a kind of unpredictability, or at least a
Speaker 3: dynamic nature to the deep future. Are the rules of
Speaker 3: the cosmos written in stone or are they more like
Speaker 3: a living document constantly being revised by the universe itself.
Speaker 3: It certainly gives you something to think about.
Speaker 2: The pass schools