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<v Speaker 1>about the control dramas and have a great day. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna touch on the nervous system for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who are unfamiliar with what we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>get into. This is the control dramas. Four of them

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<v Speaker 1>are the control dramas from The Celestine Prophecy. The Celstine

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<v Speaker 1>Prophecy is a fictional book written by James Redfield about

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<v Speaker 1>documents that are found in Peru that starts to elevate

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<v Speaker 1>people from the life that they're currently living into the

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<v Speaker 1>next evolution of life. It talks about energy exchanges, it

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<v Speaker 1>talks about our food, It talks about synchronicity. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a fiction book. It is really good. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. But the control dramas them Stelves themselves stem

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<v Speaker 1>from YOUNGI and psychology. They're just put in with a

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<v Speaker 1>twist to make it more relatable to people. So before

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<v Speaker 1>I get into this, I do want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the nervous system first. The nervous system does most of

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<v Speaker 1>its foundational wiring in the first seven years of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Within that window, the first three years carry the heaviest weight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not an estimate, it's backed by decades of attachment

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<v Speaker 1>research in neuroscience. A child's brain triples in size in

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<v Speaker 1>the first two years of its life, and the wiring

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<v Speaker 1>that happens during that stretch becomes the default operating system

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<v Speaker 1>for stress responses, emotional regulation, and what a person believes

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<v Speaker 1>about safety and connection for the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 1>When you guys, think about that, the first two years,

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<v Speaker 1>we are unconscious of everything that goes on. When you

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<v Speaker 1>think about your life, you don't remember what it is

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<v Speaker 1>to be under five years old. We might have a memory,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a fraction of a memory. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>complete experience. And that's just all there is to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And to think about our life being that controlled by

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<v Speaker 1>an adult who thinks they're not going to remember this anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>all of your emotional outbursts, all of the fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>things that happen, like you're really fucking up a child

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<v Speaker 1>in the first two years of their life because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't emotionally regulate. Right birth to eighteen months is where

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation gets laid for whether the world feels safe

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<v Speaker 1>or unpredictable. This is the attachment window in its truest sense.

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<v Speaker 1>A baby who gets picked up when they cry, soothes

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<v Speaker 1>when they're distressed, and responded to with consistency builds a

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system that expects the world to be reliable. A

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<v Speaker 1>baby who gets inconsistent response, is sometimes soothed, sometimes ignored,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes met with frustration, builds a nervous system that stays

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<v Speaker 1>on alert, always scanning for whether help is coming. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the roots of anxious attachment or avoidant

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<v Speaker 1>attachment actually take hold, long before the kid has had

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<v Speaker 1>a single conscious memory. This is within the first eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>months of life. Guys, eighteen months to three years is

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<v Speaker 1>where a child starts learning about their own autonomy, how

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<v Speaker 1>the world responds to their emerging self. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>stage where tantrums begin happening, where a kid says no

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time and actually means it. Where they're

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<v Speaker 1>testing whether they're allowed to have their own will and

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<v Speaker 1>how a parent responds. Here, whether with patients or the intimidator,

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<v Speaker 1>control drama shapes whether the kid grows up believing their

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<v Speaker 1>own needs are boundaries, believes that their own needs and

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries are valid or dangerous to express. Three to seven

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<v Speaker 1>really start imprinting hard, because this is when a kid's

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<v Speaker 1>brain shifts into heavy pattern recognition mode. They're not just

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<v Speaker 1>reacting anymore. They're building a working model of how a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship functions based on what they watch every day. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the age range where a kid concludes love equals

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<v Speaker 1>walking on eggshells or love equals earning approval whether it

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<v Speaker 1>means managing someone else's emotions or whether it means managing

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<v Speaker 1>someone else's emotions, these conclusions get stored below conscious Those

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions get stored below conscious thought and then run on

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot for the next several decades unless someone deliberately goes

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<v Speaker 1>back and re examines them. After seven, the nervous system

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop developing, but it becomes much more like much

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<v Speaker 1>less like wet clay, and much more like clay that

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<v Speaker 1>has already been fired. The brain starts pruning connections that

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<v Speaker 1>it does does not use, and starts reinforcing the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that it does. So whatever patterns got the most repetition

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<v Speaker 1>in those first seven years becomes the new neural pathways

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<v Speaker 1>of least resistance. That's not a life sentence, that's the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the brain's plasticity and change is absolutely possible. But

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<v Speaker 1>it also explains why habits and reactions rooted in early

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<v Speaker 1>childhood feels so automatic and why they take real, sustained

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<v Speaker 1>work to retire rewire in adulthood. And what this means

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<v Speaker 1>for the parent is that the small, repeated moments in

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<v Speaker 1>those first seven years carry far more weight than any

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<v Speaker 1>single big talk or grand gesture later on. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>one blow up that does the damage. It's a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>small interactions that quietly taught a kid what to expect

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<v Speaker 1>from people who are supposed to be safe. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything that you want to add about the the

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system, all right, So the first one is the intimidator.

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<v Speaker 1>The intimidator parent runs on one currency, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>control through fear. It's the raised voices before reasoning even starts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the silence that feels louder than yelling because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the house knows what's coming next. It's the look

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<v Speaker 1>across the dinner table that shuts a kid up faster

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<v Speaker 1>than any lecture ever would, and it works. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole problem. It works so well and so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>the parent never has a reason to question their behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about what this is actually happening in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>A five year old spills milk. The parent doesn't see

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. They see a threat to their control, or

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<v Speaker 1>see a child that should have known better, So the escalate.

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<v Speaker 1>They escalate. The kid freezes, apologizes, probably cries, cleans it

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<v Speaker 1>up in record time. From the outside, it looks like discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>From the inside, for that kid, it's a five second

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<v Speaker 1>event that gets stored for decades. The nervous system doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>file that under spilled milk. It files it under unpredictable

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<v Speaker 1>danger lives in this house, And once that filing system

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<v Speaker 1>gets built, it runs quietly in the background for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of that's person's life, long before they've moved out

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<v Speaker 1>and long after the parent has softened or died. The

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<v Speaker 1>intimidator parent usually isn't a monster. Most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're exhausted, overwhelmed, and running the only playbook that they

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<v Speaker 1>were ever handed Somewhere in the back of their childhood

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<v Speaker 1>someone bigger than them controlled the room through force, and

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<v Speaker 1>it worked on them too. So when their kid pushes back,

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<v Speaker 1>mouths off, or just moves too slow getting ready for school,

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<v Speaker 1>the old wiring fires before the adult brain even gets

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<v Speaker 1>to say. It's reactive, not calculated. Not calculated. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>excuse the damage, but it explains why so many people

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<v Speaker 1>who swore they would never become their father or mother

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<v Speaker 1>catch themselves mid sentence sounding exactly like them. Intimidation might

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<v Speaker 1>get compliance, but it kills closeness. You can have a

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<v Speaker 1>still feels completely alone because what they built wasn't respect.

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<v Speaker 1>It was distanced through obedience. A lot of the parents

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<v Speaker 1>get to their fifties and sixties wondering why adult kids

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<v Speaker 1>now only call on holidays or went no contact, why

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to bring the grandkids over as much as

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<v Speaker 1>they had hoped, and why there is a wall there

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<v Speaker 1>that they can't quite name. The wall is the fear

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<v Speaker 1>that they instilled thirty years ago and never went away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there for the kid. The fallout usually goes

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<v Speaker 1>one of two directions. Some kids absorb the pattern and

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<v Speaker 1>become intimidators theirselves because on some level, forced look like power,

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<v Speaker 1>and power look like safety. They grow up believing that

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get respect is by making other

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<v Speaker 1>people afraid of you at work and relationships, even with

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<v Speaker 1>their own future kids. Other kids go the opposite way entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>They become the peace keeper, the people pleaser, the one

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<v Speaker 1>who reads the room for tension before they've even said hello.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll avoid conflict at almost any cost, because conflict, as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid means danger, not disagreement. Neither path is a

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<v Speaker 1>personality flaw. It's an adaptation. It made sense to them

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. It just stops being useful the moment

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<v Speaker 1>that the person tries to build an adult relationship where

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<v Speaker 1>honesty and vulnerability actually matter. So if you're the parent

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<v Speaker 1>and something in your chest tightened a little bit, the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction is worth sitting with here. As we always say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're feeling triggered, you should ask yourself why you

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<v Speaker 1>are bound to lose your temper again. Saying that you

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<v Speaker 1>want is not realistic, and promising that it will probably

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel and promising it will probably make you

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<v Speaker 1>feel worse the next time you slip up. The actual

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<v Speaker 1>work is catching it in the moment before the explosion

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<v Speaker 1>and asking yourself what you're really afraid of. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it's not the spilled milk. It's the fear

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<v Speaker 1>of losing control, of being disrespected, of somehow failing as

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<v Speaker 1>a parent. If your kid doesn't fall in line immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>that fear is yours, not theirs, and it deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>get examined instead of dumped onto a seven year old.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the adult who grew up with this, the

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<v Speaker 1>work looks different. It's noticing when you shrink in a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with someone who raises their voice, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a stranger or someone with zero actual power over you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's noticing if you either avoid all conflict or swing

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<v Speaker 1>hard the other way to become the intimidating one yourself

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<v Speaker 1>the second that you feel threatened. Neither reaction is who

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<v Speaker 1>you are. It's who you've learned to be, and the

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system can be retrained, but only once you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually see the pattern clearly enough to stop making the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake and stop making stop mistaking it for your identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything on the intimidator? Okay, the next

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<v Speaker 1>one is the interrogator. The interrogator doesn't raise their voice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes this one sneaky. I have seen grown

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<v Speaker 1>men who had zero physical fear of their father growing

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<v Speaker 1>up and still flinch every time someone asks why did

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? In a certain tone. That's their tell.

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<v Speaker 1>This drama runs on questions, not fists. So picture this.

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<v Speaker 1>A kid comes home fifteen minutes late. The intimidator parent

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<v Speaker 1>would yell. The interrogator parent doesn't yell. Instead, they ask

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<v Speaker 1>where were you, who were you with, why didn't you call?

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<v Speaker 1>What were you thinking? And each question on its own

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<v Speaker 1>is reasonable. Stack together, it's an interrogation room with a

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<v Speaker 1>People have said, I felt guilty before I even said

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<v Speaker 1>one hides in plain sight, behind the mask of concern.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched adult children defend their parents' behaviors. She just

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<v Speaker 1>what makes this one harder to name than intimidation. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no obvious villain in the moment to point to. The

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system is destroyed a thousand small cross examinations at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. What I've noticed is that kids raised under

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<v Speaker 1>They start narrating their own choices before they make them,

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<v Speaker 1>building a defense and advance for a trial that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even happened yet. If you've ever written an email over

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<v Speaker 1>explaining anything to your boss or to a lover like

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<v Speaker 1>you are preparing for trial, that's not a personality quirk.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a kid still bracing for the dinner table

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years later in a different building. The parent doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out of this unscathed either, even though it looks

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<v Speaker 1>and over again is a parent who genuinely can't relax

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<v Speaker 1>around their own kid. Every conversation becomes an audit, and

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<v Speaker 1>audits don't build closeness, they build distance with a really

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<v Speaker 1>good documentation. These parents often end up shocked later in

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<v Speaker 1>when there's a problem to report, and that's the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>they built. If every phone call growing up was a

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<v Speaker 1>deep brief, why would the adult kid call for anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>Almost every interrogator parent was raised by someone who used

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<v Speaker 1>where mistakes were treated as character flaws instead of just mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question isn't really about the kid's behavior. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the parent's own, unprocessed fear of things going wrong, aimed

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<v Speaker 1>outward and dressed as diligence. I don't think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse. I think that that's just an honest starting

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<v Speaker 1>point if you actually want to change it. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>this type of parent, there's a real difference between curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>and cross examination. Your kid can feel which one they're getting,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they can't name it. What happened is curiosity?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you do that? It's a verdict wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>question mark. The words can be almost identical. The tone

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<v Speaker 1>and the intent behind them are not. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to read this again because what happened. If your kid

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<v Speaker 1>is crying and you walk in and you go, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what happened? You're concerned. If you walk

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<v Speaker 1>in and you see that somebody fell and the TV

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<v Speaker 1>broke and you go, why did you do that? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a very different fucking nervous system response to a child

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<v Speaker 1>already freaking out because something just happened. And again, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember that a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>happen with children under seven years old is subconscious. Their

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<v Speaker 1>young brain can't understand and process in real time what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have to be aware of these things. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how you fuck your kids up long term. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you grew up with this, the work is noticing

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<v Speaker 1>where you still perform for approval that isn't even in

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<v Speaker 1>the room anymore. Over, explaining a decision that nobody asked

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<v Speaker 1>you to defend, feeling guilty before you've done anything wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>picking a partner who questions you the exact same way,

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<v Speaker 1>because on some messed up level, familiar feels like love

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<v Speaker 1>even when it isn't. You will recognize this pattern, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you can start working on it. Anything on

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<v Speaker 1>that one nope, all right. The aloof the aloof parent

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that is the hardest, the spot no yelling,

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<v Speaker 1>no interrogation, no obvious moment where something bad happened, just absence.

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<v Speaker 1>You can describe your childhood home as quiet in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that felt like this might be your situation. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's what it actually looks like day to day. The

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<v Speaker 1>kid comes home excited about something, a drawing, a grade,

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown in a game, and the parent gives a

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<v Speaker 1>flat that's nice without looking up from their phone or

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<v Speaker 1>from the sink or whatever it is that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Not cruel, not mean, just not there. This is there

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<v Speaker 1>but not present, the silent treatment after disengagement, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation, emotional topics get deflected with a joke or

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<v Speaker 1>a change of subject. Physically, they are there, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are not present. For sure, the parent is in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a wall between the kid and them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can feel it long before there's a language

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<v Speaker 1>for it. This is the one control through Withdrawal doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like control because it looks like nothing at all,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's exactly the mechanism. When the parent goes quiet

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<v Speaker 1>and checks out, the kid starts working over time so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can close the gap. They get quieter to

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<v Speaker 1>match the mood, or louder trying to earn attention, or

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<v Speaker 1>they start performing achievements just to see if they can

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<v Speaker 1>finally get a reaction. I've watched grown adults still do

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<v Speaker 1>this in their forties, still chasing approval from bosses, partners, audiences,

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone else who reminds them of that unavailable parent,

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<v Speaker 1>because the nervous system never got the message that connection

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<v Speaker 1>could just be given freely. A kid raised by an

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<v Speaker 1>aloof parent usually learns one less and faster than any

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<v Speaker 1>other kid and any other dynamic, and it's pretty fucking brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Needing someone doesn't work, so they stop asking when they

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<v Speaker 1>see this, and I see this a lot when in

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<v Speaker 1>our coaching. There are men out there who pride themselves

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<v Speaker 1>on being low maintenance, easy going, no big emotional needs,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we dig into it, that's not actually their personality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an old survival strategy that has been embedded. It

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<v Speaker 1>has embedded itself into their identity, and they've learned somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>before the age of seven that reaching out got them nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>so they quit reaching and independence became the identity because

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<v Speaker 1>dependence never paid off. I don't think that most aloof

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<v Speaker 1>parents are called people. Most of them are actually overwhelmed, avoidant,

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<v Speaker 1>or carrying their own processed unprocessed grief or depression, and

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<v Speaker 1>withdrawal is just one more coping mechanism that they've got.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of them grew up in homes where emotion

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<v Speaker 1>itself was treated as a problem. They never learned how

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<v Speaker 1>to sit with the kid's feelings without wanting to escape

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<v Speaker 1>the room. The tragedy is often love. They often love

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<v Speaker 1>their kids deeply and have no idea how far away

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<v Speaker 1>they seem from the outside. Where this repeats becomes predictable

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<v Speaker 1>once you've seen it enough times. A kid who grew

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<v Speaker 1>up starved for engagement either becomes an aloof parent themselves

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<v Speaker 1>because emotional distance is the only template they were given,

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<v Speaker 1>or they swing in the opposite direction and become enmeshed,

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<v Speaker 1>unable to give their own kids any space because space

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<v Speaker 1>equals abandonment in their nervous system. Neither extreme is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>and people can spend years bouncing between the two without

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<v Speaker 1>ever realizing that both reactions trace back to the same wound.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a parent and you recognize yourself in this

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<v Speaker 1>The fix isn't forcing constant conversation that you don't actually feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids can smell performance like a fart in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonus points to anybody who remembers that if you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell me in the chat what movie that came from,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be great. Remember, kids, I can smell a

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<v Speaker 1>lie like a fart in a car. I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that it was Christian Slater who said it. Love

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<v Speaker 1>that movie anyways. Um, the real work is smaller than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's looking up from the phone for ten seconds when

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<v Speaker 1>your kid is trying to show you something. It's naming

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<v Speaker 1>your own exhaustion out loud instead of just appearing disappearing

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<v Speaker 1>into it. So if your kid learns that your silence

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<v Speaker 1>is about your day and not about them, that one

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<v Speaker 1>distinction alone can undo a lot of damage over time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you grew up like this, the work is noticing

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<v Speaker 1>where you built a life around not needing anyone and

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<v Speaker 1>asking yourself honestly, whether that's peace or armor. Not needing

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<v Speaker 1>anyone isn't the same as healed. Sometimes it just means

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<v Speaker 1>that you learned really early that asking didn't work, so

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<v Speaker 1>you stopped. You learn to do it all yourself, and

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<v Speaker 1>you called that strength because the alternative was too painful

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<v Speaker 1>to sit with. Right. And then the last one from

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<v Speaker 1>the Celestine profit see is the poor me, And then

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<v Speaker 1>I have five that I created for you guys. The

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<v Speaker 1>poor me is the parent h is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>fools almost everyone, including the kid who lived there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no yelling, no integrity, no interrogation, no cold shoulder. What

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<v Speaker 1>there is instead is a sigh, a look of exhaustion

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<v Speaker 1>that shows up right on cue whenever a kid needs something.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll figure it out like always. That sentence

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<v Speaker 1>alone can run a household for twenty years, and most

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<v Speaker 1>people will never clock it as control because it looks

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<v Speaker 1>so much like suffering. People spend years defending this parent

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<v Speaker 1>before they ever see the pattern. She sacrificed everything for us, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and she made everyone in the house know it every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, and one hundred small comments that turned love

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<v Speaker 1>into a debt that nobody asked to. Oh that's the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism guilt instead of force. The kid doesn't get told

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<v Speaker 1>what to do, they get shown how much it costs

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<v Speaker 1>the parents when they do it. So here's a scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid wants to go to a friend's birthday party instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the families for dinner. The intimidator parent would say no,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be the end of it. The poor

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<v Speaker 1>me parent says, fine, go don't worry about me. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just sit here alone. No rule was broken, no boundary

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<v Speaker 1>was even stated. But the kid stays home anyways, because

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative is carrying the image of that parent sitting

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<v Speaker 1>alone at the table, and no kid wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for their parents' pain and suffering. What actually

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<v Speaker 1>happens developmentally is that the kid becomes the emotional caretaker

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<v Speaker 1>of the parent, usually before they are old enough to

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<v Speaker 1>spell the word responsibility. That's parentification. Parentification. That's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>word to say, parentification, and it's one of the quieter

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<v Speaker 1>forms of role reversal and a family because from the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks like a really considerate, mature kid. Teachers

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<v Speaker 1>love these kids, everyone comments on how thoughtful they are.

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<v Speaker 1>What's actually happened in a seven year old, though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that they are learning to read a grown adult's emotional

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<v Speaker 1>cues and adjusts their own needs accordingly, and this becomes

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<v Speaker 1>their fucking life. A lot of poor me parents aren't

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating on purpose. Many of them are uly struggling they're

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed and this is the only way that they know

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<v Speaker 1>to cope. Somewhere in their own history, direct requests didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work or weren't allowed, and martyrdom became the only socially

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable way to ask anyone for anything. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that it excuses the impact on the kid. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's an honest starting point if the goal is

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<v Speaker 1>actually breaking the cycle instead of just blame. The kid

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<v Speaker 1>who grows up under this pattern usually ends up in

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<v Speaker 1>one of two places as an adult. Some become chronic overgivers,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who feel physically uncomfortable receiving anything, who apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for taking up space, who end up in relationships where

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing all of the emotional labor and calling it

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<v Speaker 1>love because that's the only version of love they were

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<v Speaker 1>ever shown. The others swing the other way, obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go numb. They become numb to guilt entirely, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of struggling with real empathy, because they

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<v Speaker 1>spent so many years absorbing manufactured guilt that they built

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<v Speaker 1>a wall against all of it, including the guilt that

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<v Speaker 1>would actually be useful to feel. The parent doesn't come

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<v Speaker 1>out ahead in this either, even though they get comple

417
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<v Speaker 1>alliance for years. What eventually happens is adult children who

418
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<v Speaker 1>only help out of obligation and resentment instead of love,

419
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<v Speaker 1>who show up because they feel that they have to,

420
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<v Speaker 1>not because they want to. Some of these parents can

421
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<v Speaker 1>get into their later years wondering why their kids seem

422
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<v Speaker 1>to be performing care instead of feeling it. That performance

423
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:20.559
<v Speaker 1>is the outcome of the relationship built on debt instead

424
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<v Speaker 1>of connection. If you're this parent, the shift is not

425
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<v Speaker 1>pretending that you're fine. It's it's not pretending it's fine

426
00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're not. That's its own kind of dishonesty. The

427
00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>shift is learning to state a need plainly instead of

428
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<v Speaker 1>performing suffering until someone notices I could really use some

429
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>help today. Land's completely different in a kid's nervous system

430
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<v Speaker 1>than a heavy sigh a martyred tone, even if the

431
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<v Speaker 1>outcome you're hoping for is the same. One teaches a

432
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<v Speaker 1>kid that needs are normal and can be spoken or

433
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<v Speaker 1>talked about. The other teaches them that needs have to

434
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<v Speaker 1>be extracted through guilt, which is a harder thing to

435
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<v Speaker 1>unlearn if you grew up with this. The work starts

436
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<v Speaker 1>with noticing where you still feel response for other people's

437
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.599
<v Speaker 1>emotional states that you were never actually yours to manage.

438
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Notice where resting feels like you're doing something wrong. Notice

439
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<v Speaker 1>if you feel drawn to relationships where you are always

440
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the strong one, always the giver, because on some level

441
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:17.079
<v Speaker 1>that role feels familiar, and familiar gets mistaken for love

442
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>more often than people realize. It isn't love. It's an

443
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<v Speaker 1>old job that you got a sign too early, and

444
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<v Speaker 1>now you're not allowed to quit. That's how it feels.

445
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>You are allowed to quit, guys, You're allowed to walk

446
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.279
<v Speaker 1>away and save your fucking nervous system. All right. So

447
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 1>now I made some up. I have five that I

448
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>made up, and I think that from what we do

449
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast and what we've seen in parents and coaching,

450
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.160
<v Speaker 1>all of these are very prevalent. The first one I

451
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<v Speaker 1>call the rescuer. This parent doesn't look like a control

452
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.519
<v Speaker 1>drama at all. That's what makes this one so hard

453
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<v Speaker 1>to catch, even for people who've done a lot of

454
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>shadow work already. This parent shows up early, fixes everything,

455
00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.519
<v Speaker 1>never lets the kids struggle long enough to solve their

456
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<v Speaker 1>own problems. So the picture is the kid is struggling

457
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<v Speaker 1>with a math problem, gets frustrated, and before frustration even

458
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.759
<v Speaker 1>has a chance to turn into a breakthrough. The parent

459
00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is sitting down doing half the problem for them. The

460
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:07.319
<v Speaker 1>kid gets an argument with a friend, and instead of

461
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<v Speaker 1>letting them work through the discomfort or conflict, the parent

462
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 1>calls the other kids mothers to smooth it over. Every

463
00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:16.400
<v Speaker 1>obstacle gets removed before the kid even has a chance

464
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<v Speaker 1>to feel the weight of it. This looks like love

465
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time. It's actually fear, though, the

466
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<v Speaker 1>fear that if the kid struggles and the parent doesn't

467
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>step in, something will go wrong and the parents will

468
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<v Speaker 1>not be able to forgive themselves for it. And this

469
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<v Speaker 1>is the epitome of helicopter parenting. What gets missed constantly

470
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<v Speaker 1>is what this does to a kid's sense of their

471
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<v Speaker 1>own capability. If every hard thing gets handled for you

472
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>before you get the chance to handle it yourself, you

473
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 1>never build an internal evidence that you can I've seen

474
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>people in their thirties who are objectively competent people, good jobs,

475
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.559
<v Speaker 1>good relationships on paper, and they still freeze the second

476
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>something goes wrong, because nobody ever let them sit in

477
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 1>the discomfort of solving their own problems. As a kid,

478
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>their nervous system never got the reps in confidence isn't

479
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>something that you can hand someone. It's built and solved

480
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>one problem at a time, and the rescuer parent without

481
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.759
<v Speaker 1>meaning to keep stealing those reps from their children. Almost

482
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 1>every rescuer parent grew up with an inability or instability

483
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>of some kind, an unpredictable parent, financial chaos, a household

484
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.519
<v Speaker 1>where something always felt like it was one step closer

485
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>from falling apart, so they became hypervigilant to the problems

486
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 1>as kids, and that hypervigilance never turned off, it just

487
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>got redirected onto their own children. Rescuing really isn't about

488
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the kid in front of them. Most of the time.

489
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>It's an old alarm system still running, trying to prevent

490
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the version of chaos that has already happened decades ago.

491
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<v Speaker 1>The parent pays a price for this too. It's a

492
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>steep one that most people don't see coming because rescuing

493
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 1>is fucking exhausting. You cannot be everyone's emergency contact for

494
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>every small crisis and have everything left over for your

495
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:54.640
<v Speaker 1>own life. I've seen parents in their fifties who are

496
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>still fielding daily calls from their adult children, who can't

497
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.519
<v Speaker 1>make basic decisions without checking in first. When the parent

498
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>is resentful and burnt out, but they built the exact

499
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>dynamic with their own hands. One rescued crisis as at

500
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 1>a time, starting back when their kid was seven and

501
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tie their own shoes. Kid who grows up with

502
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this pattern usually goes one of two directions. Some become

503
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 1>chronically dependent, unable to trust their own judgment, always needing

504
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>someone else to weigh in before they can commit to

505
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 1>a decision because deep down they never got proof of

506
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 1>their own judgment being any good. Others rebel really hard

507
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>against it and become fiercely, almost aggressively self reliant, refusing

508
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>help from anyone even when they're drowning, because being rescued

509
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>as a kid felt like being told that they weren't capable,

510
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and they would rather struggle alone than feel that way again.

511
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I've seen both types, and neither one is actually free.

512
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 1>One is stuck depending on the other, while the other

513
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is stuck refusing to depend, and both are still reacting

514
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to the same childhood. If you're a parent and you

515
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 1>see yourself in this, the shift isn't becoming colder hands off.

516
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 1>That's an overcorrection, and kids can feel the difference between

517
00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 1>neglect and trust. The real shift is learning to sit

518
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 1>next to your kids struggle instead of jumping in to

519
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>remove it. Let them feel frustrated with the math problem

520
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 1>for five minutes before you help. Let them have an

521
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>awkward conversation with their friend instead of trying to make

522
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 1>the call for them. Struggling with them. Struggling with them

523
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>as a witness is completely different than struggling alone, and

524
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that distinction is the whole game. You are not abandoning

525
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>them by letting them struggle. You're teaching in them that

526
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they can handle hard things, which is a gift that

527
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll last almost everything else that you can give them

528
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if you grew up with a rescuer. The work starts

529
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>noticing where you either wait for someone to save you

530
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 1>or refuse to help when you need it so bad.

531
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Ask yourself honestly whether your independence is actual strength or

532
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 1>old defenses. There's a real difference between someone who is

533
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>capable and at peace with asking for help when it

534
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 1>makes sense and someone who white knuckles everything because letting

535
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>someone in feels like handing over control that they never

536
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>trusted anyone else with in the first place. All Right,

537
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 1>the next one is the charmer. The charmer parent is

538
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the hardest one to explain to somebody who didn't grow

539
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 1>up with it, because on paper, nothing bad ever happened,

540
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>no yelling, no cold children, no guilt trip, just a

541
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>parent who was fun, quick with a joke, good in

542
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a room, and the other parents just genuinely liked being around.

543
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I've heard people say everyone loved my dad, and almost

544
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the same breath, then they say, I don't think I

545
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>actually ever knew him. I'm sorry, and not to see

546
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the contradiction sitting there, and so it's pointed out. Charm

547
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 1>is a deflection tool. Kids bring up something real or hurt, feeling,

548
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a broken promise, a moment that actually mattered, and instead

549
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>of engaging with it, parents redirect with humor. They make

550
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it a skit turns the tension into a laugh before

551
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 1>it becomes a conversation. It works almost every time, because

552
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>who wants to be the buzzkill who keeps pushing after

553
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone's already laughing. If a kid brings up something genuinely painful,

554
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.519
<v Speaker 1>dad cracks a joke, the whole room exhales and moves on.

555
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>The kid just quietly learns that their pain isn't going

556
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to get taken seriously. And that how because not everyone

557
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 1>said so, not because anyone said so, but because it

558
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 1>kept getting laughed at and passed over. What I think

559
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 1>gets missed is that charm isn't the opposite of control,

560
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 1>it's just the smoother version of it. The intimidator controls

561
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 1>the room through fear. The charmer controls the room through likability,

562
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and likability is nearly impossible to argue with. Try telling

563
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>someone my dad's warmth was actually a wall, and watch

564
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>how many people look at you like you're the problem.

565
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 1>That's the trap. The kid grows up doubting their own

566
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ability to read the situation because everyone else in the

567
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>room only saw the good version. Something to notice with

568
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>the charmer parent. They're often incredibly good in social settings themselves, funny,

569
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>easy to talk to the guy that everyone wants at

570
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the party, and then in a one on one conversation

571
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 1>with their wife or a close friend, something just shuts off.

572
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>They can't stay in a hard conversation. The second it

573
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 1>gets emotionally heavily emotionally heavy, outcomes a joke, a subject change,

574
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a way to lighten it before where it gets uncomfortable.

575
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>And that's not a personality quirk that they picked up randomly.

576
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It is the exact tool that their parents used running

577
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>on autopilots decades later in a completely different relationship. Where

578
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I think this one actually comes from is a parent

579
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>who learned early that being liked was safer than being known.

580
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe in their own house. Growing up, they were punished

581
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 1>for vulnerability, or rewarded for performance, or just never made

582
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 1>room for anything hard to be said out loud, So

583
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 1>they built an identity around being the fun one, the

584
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>easy one, the one that nobody worries about, because being

585
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>worried about felt more dangerous than being enjoyed. I don't

586
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 1>think most charmer parents are hiding something sinister. I think

587
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them genuinely just don't know how to

588
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>sit still in hard moments because nobody ever showed them

589
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that it was survivable. The cost to the parent here

590
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>is loneliness, and it's hard for them to even spot

591
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 1>because from the outside their life looks full lots of friends,

592
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>lots of laughs, phones that never stop ringing, But almost

593
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>none of those relationships have any depth to them because

594
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>depth was never something that was an offer. Usually it

595
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>takes something like a divorce or an adult kid quietly

596
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 1>stepping back before they end up in a seat, end

597
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>up in that seat, and when what comes out of

598
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>them nearly every time is some version of the same sentence,

599
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 1>nobody actually knows me. That's the invoice of thirty years

600
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of being liked instead of known. The kid usually goes

601
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>one of two ways. They become charmers themselves because it worked.

602
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 1>It got them liked, it kept the room comfortable, and

603
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>comfortable felt like a whole goal growing up. Others go

604
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction and become almost allergic to charm, and

605
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 1>other people suspicious of anyone too smooth, too quick to joke,

606
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 1>because their nervous system learned that charm is where people

607
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>hide the real stuff. You see this in women specifically,

608
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>who avoid genuinely warm funny men entirely, not because there's

609
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong with warmth, but because warmth was the exact

610
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>costume their unavailable parent was wearing. If you're a parent

611
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and you see this in yourself, the fix isn't becoming

612
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>heavy or serious at the time. That would just trade

613
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 1>one imbalance for another. The actual work is staying in

614
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the room for a few more seconds after the joke

615
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>would have normally landed. Your kid brings something up hard.

616
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Let the humor weight, ask them another question. Let it

617
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 1>be a little uncomfortable, take the extra time. And that's

618
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 1>the whole difference between a kid who learns that their

619
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 1>feelings get skipped over versus a kid who learns that

620
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>their feelings actually get heard. If you grew up with this,

621
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the work is learning to notice when you're using humor

622
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>as an exit to a conversation, especially one that's starting

623
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to make you feel uncomfortable. Watch for it. The next

624
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<v Speaker 1>time something real comes up with someone you love. Do

625
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you lean in or do you make a joke? Neither

626
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>answer makes you broken. It just shows you where the

627
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>old pattern is still driving the car, all right. The

628
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>next one is the gas lighter. The gaslighter parent is

629
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the one that leaves the deepest damage with the least

630
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>visible evidence. Imagine someone trying to describe what happened to

631
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 1>them and watching them struggle to even trust their own description.

632
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 1>This isn't about fear of guilt or absence. This is

633
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>about reality itself getting rewritten in real time, and a

634
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>kid have no defense against that. Because the kid's whole

635
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>understanding of what's true comes from the adults around them.

636
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to make decisions when you're seven years old.

637
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Six years old, your entire existence is built on the

638
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>foundation of what your parents tell you you can and

639
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 1>can't do. So here's what it actually sounds like. In

640
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a house. Kid says, you promised we'd go to the game.

641
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Parents says, I never said that. Kid remembers a slam

642
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>door and a raised voice the night before, and the

643
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.559
<v Speaker 1>parent says nobody was even upset or being dramatic. Kid

644
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>brings up something that clearly happened and gets met with

645
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 1>a flat denial, delivered with total confidence, no hesitation, no

646
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>flicker of doubt on the parent's face. The confidence is

647
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the weapon kid can say I'm sorry. A kid can

648
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 1>survive a parent saying you're wrong. A kid has a

649
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>much harder time surviving a parent saying that didn't happen,

650
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>with the exact same clarity that they would use to

651
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>state their own name. What people miss about this control

652
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>drama specifically, is that it doesn't just control behavior, It

653
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>controls the kid's relationship with their own mind. An intimidator

654
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>teaches a kid to fear the parent's reaction. A poor

655
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>me teaches a kid to manage the parent's emotions. A

656
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>gaslighter teaches a kid that their own perception cannot be

657
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>trusted at all, and that's a different category of damage.

658
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen people in their forties who still pause mid

659
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>sentence describing a memory from childhood and say, I think

660
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that happened, but I'm not totally sure anymore. That hesitation,

661
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that little crack in their own certainty is the fingerprint

662
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>of this specific drama. Where this comes from is almost

663
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>always a parent who cannot tolerate being wrong or being

664
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>seen honestly. Being confronted with an accurate account of their

665
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 1>own behavior feels like an attack on their identity, not

666
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 1>just a disagreement about facts. So the mind does something

667
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 1>dramatic to protect itself. It doesn't just defend the behavior,

668
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it erases the event. I don't think most of the

669
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>parents are consciously lying most of the time. Either. A

670
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of them, I believe, actually have can convinced themselves

671
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that the denial is true. That's not manipulation in the

672
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>classic sense. That's a nervous system so committed to avoiding

673
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>shame that it rewrote the file before the parent even

674
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 1>opened their mouth. This actually shows up in your ego,

675
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and you guys can if you've watched any of our

676
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>ego content, this is the ego doing everything that it

677
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>can to prevent itself from having to deal with any

678
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 1>type of bruising or catastrophe. There's a lot that goes

679
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>into this. So the kid who grows up with this

680
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>usually becomes chronic self doubters, running every decision, every moment,

681
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>every gut instinct through an internal committee before they'll trust

682
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>it because trusting their own perception got punished so consistently

683
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>as a kid. Other swinghart the other direction and become

684
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>almost rigid about being right, holding onto their version events

685
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>with white knuckles in every argument because being told that's

686
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>not what happened one more time feels unbearable. Neither one

687
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is a character flaw. Both kids are still trying to

688
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>win an argument about a reality that they lost decades ago.

689
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>The cost here as well, even if it's not obvious

690
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>at first. These relationships tend to go shallow fast and

691
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>stay shallow because they cannot build real closeness with someone

692
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>whose account of a shared history you can't trust. Adult

693
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 1>kids of gaslighting parents often distance not out of anger,

694
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 1>not out of anger, but out of self protection being

695
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 1>around that parent means being around a version of the

696
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 1>past that doesn't match what actually happened to them, and

697
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>most people can only tolerate so much of that before

698
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 1>they simply stop showing up. If you're this parents, the

699
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 1>shift isn't pretending you remember everything perfectly nobody does. The

700
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 1>shift is being willing to say, I don't remember it

701
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 1>that way, but I believe that's what it felt like

702
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to you. Instead of flatly erasing your kid's experience. The

703
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>one sentence tells their kid perception is allowed to exist

704
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>even if it doesn't match yours, and that's the opposite

705
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of what this control drama teaches. If you are a

706
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 1>kid who grew up with this, the work is. It's

707
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>learning to trust your own memory again, even without anyone

708
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 1>else confirming it. It's noticing whether you still ask other

709
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>people to validate things that you already know to be

710
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>true because some old part of you doesn't believe how

711
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 1>to read reality enough on your own. It is enough,

712
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 1>it always was. You just have to trust yourself again.

713
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The next one is the competitor. The competitor parent turns

714
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>love into a scoreboard. Most of the time, nobody in

715
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>a family would ever actually call it that out loud.

716
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like normal conversation. You guys, remember the

717
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>one upper commercials like, oh, that's the one upper. Oh

718
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the one upper. I know somebody that's way

719
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 1>worse than that than I am. You know, the one

720
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 1>upper thing the competitor could be like the one upper.

721
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>You get a promotion, they mention it, So you called

722
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>your parents, Hey, I got a promotion. They mentioned the

723
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 1>guy at their old job who made partner by thirty.

724
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 1>You finish a ten k. They bring up a marathon

725
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that they ran in their twenties like that, somehow relevant,

726
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Every accomplishment gets measured against theirs, and somehow there's always win,

727
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.320
<v Speaker 1>even when the facts don't actually support that. Maybe your

728
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 1>dad just happens to have a bigger version of whatever

729
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you brought to the table. You caught a fish, He

730
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 1>caught one twice the size once. You had a rough

731
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>day at work. He had a rougher one. For a

732
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>decade straight on paper. That's just conversation and practice. A

733
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 1>kid stops bringing things to the table at all, because

734
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 1>why share a win if it's just going to quietly

735
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>get overshadowed thirty seconds later. What I think is easy

736
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to miss here is that this isn't really about the kid.

737
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>The competitor parent is still fighting an old battle that

738
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the person sitting across from them.

739
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Usually it's a sibling rivalry that never resolved, or a

740
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>parent on their own who never once said good job,

741
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a parent of their own who never said good job,

742
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 1>and now there's a hole that never got filled. The

743
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 1>kid becomes unintended, an unintended stand in for whoever they

744
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 1>were actually trying to outdo thirty years ago. Sometimes their

745
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>father wasn't actually compete with them at all. He was

746
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.519
<v Speaker 1>still competing with his own brother, and they just happened

747
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to be splashed by it. The kid raised this way

748
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>usually ends up in one of two places. They become

749
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>relentless achievers, chasing wins their entire life, trying to finally

750
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>land the one that gets the actual reaction, and it

751
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>never quite lands the way they need it to. Because

752
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the goalpost was never about achievement, it was always about them.

753
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Others go numb. They go numb to their own success entirely.

754
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 1>They downplay wins before anyone else can. They say it's

755
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 1>not a big deal before someone else gets the chance

756
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to one up them first, because that's easier than sitting

757
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 1>through let down. Once again, there's a specific type of

758
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>loneliness that comes with being this parent. Even though from

759
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the outside it might look like confidence, you cannot actually

760
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>connect with someone you're constantly measuring yourself against. These parents

761
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>get to their sixties confused about why their adult kids

762
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>share less and less with them over time. The kid

763
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.519
<v Speaker 1>isn't being cold. The kid just got tired of every

764
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>good thing in their life becoming a setup for parison.

765
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>If you are the parent and any of this sounds familiar,

766
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the fix isn't staying quiet about your own life. That's

767
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>not realistic. It's not even about the actual issue. The

768
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>issue is timing. Let your kids have a win, breathe

769
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 1>before you bring up yours. Let it sit in the

770
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>room uncontested for a minute. That's it. That single pause

771
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is the difference between a kid who learns their accomplishments

772
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>accomplishments matter, and one who learns everything else gets measured

773
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the second it leaves your mouth. If you grew up

774
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>with this, it's worth noticing where you still can't enjoy

775
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>something immediately without bracing for comparison, even when the body

776
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, even when nobody else is in the room

777
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to make it that. Bracing isn't paranoia. It's trained response

778
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to a pattern that ran for years and it took root.

779
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You got one more. This is the last one. This

780
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>one's the perfectionist. The perfectionist parent is an easy is

781
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>easy to mistake for a good parent because on the surface,

782
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it looks like high standards, discipline, wanting the best for

783
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>your kid. Nobody throws apart already celebrating mediocrity. But there's

784
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 1>a specific difference between a parent who wants their kid

785
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to try hard and a parent who's made love conditional

786
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 1>on outcomes. So here's what it looks like. Kid brings

787
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>home a report card with five a's and one B.

788
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>The perfectionist parents go straight to the B, not because

789
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they hate their kid, but because the four a's already

790
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 1>met the bar, so they don't register as anything worth mentioning.

791
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Only the mis gets discussed. Adults can replay this exact

792
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>scene from thirty years ago in perfect detail, the specific grade,

793
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the specific tone, because that's the moment they learned good

794
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>isn't good enough in this house. What separates this from

795
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 1>the interrogator is that the interrogator makes you defend your

796
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 1>choice after it happens. The perfectionist sets the bar before

797
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you've even started, and sets it so high that it's

798
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that missing. It's almost guaranteed. You're not being punished for failing.

799
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>You're being set up to fail so that correction can

800
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>keep coming. If you've ever felt like I don't think

801
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>my mom or dad ever actually wanted me to hit

802
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>the target. I think they wanted the ongoing project of

803
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 1>fixing me. That's a hard thing to admit about your parents,

804
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but it might have been your reality. The kid raised

805
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>under this learns that their worth becomes tied to output

806
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>instead of existence. You see this in adults who cannot

807
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>resist rest without guilt. You see this and people who

808
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>physically feel uncomfortable doing nothing because nothing as a kid

809
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>meant that they weren't earning anything and nothing, I'm sorry,

810
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and not earning meant not mattering. It's not a productivity habit.

811
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It is a nervous system that is still trying to

812
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>prove it deserves the right to exist. Where this comes

813
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in on the parent is usually one of two places.

814
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's a parent who was raised the exact same

815
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>way and genuinely believes pushing hard is how you show love,

816
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>because nobody ever demonstrated another way to do it. Other times,

817
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 1>it's a parent using the kid's achievement as proof of

818
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>their own worth as a parent, so the kid's grades

819
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or performance isn't actually about the kid at all. It's

820
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>evidence being collected for the case that the parent is

821
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>quietly building about themselves. Either way, the kid is the

822
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 1>one carrying the weight that was never really theirs to carry.

823
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Perfectionist parents often end up with kids who stop trying

824
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>entirely by their teenage years, not because they're lazy, but

825
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>because if the bar can never be hit, some kids

826
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>quit playing the game. We've all seen the bright kid

827
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>who suddenly stops doing homework around fourteen. Everyone calls it

828
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 1>a phase. They say it's laziness, or they say the

829
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>child is just bored, when really it's a kid protecting

830
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 1>themselves for one more round of falling short of a

831
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>target they knew they never could hit. The two directions

832
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<v Speaker 1>of adult kids of perfectionists usually take are becoming high

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<v Speaker 1>achievers who cannot enjoy the single accomplishment, always already looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the next target before the current one is even settled,

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<v Speaker 1>chasing a finish line that keeps moving because it was

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<v Speaker 1>never really about the achievement in the first place. Or

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<v Speaker 1>they give up on an ambition almost entirely because trying

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<v Speaker 1>and falling short so many times hurts, so not try

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<v Speaker 1>and feel safer than getting close and missing again. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a parent and this sounds familiar, the shift is

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<v Speaker 1>learning to notice the four a's out loud before you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the bee, not to avoid feedback. Feedback matters, but

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure your kid knows that they got the

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<v Speaker 1>win and it's seen first. That order matters. A kid

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<v Speaker 1>who hears their effort acknowledged before correction learns something completely

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<v Speaker 1>different than a kid who only hears about the miss.

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<v Speaker 1>If you grew up with this, the work is learning

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<v Speaker 1>to sit and rest without treating it like a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's noticing whether you can actually enjoy a win or

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're already scanning for what's next before the new

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<v Speaker 1>moment is even over. You're allowed to just be good

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<v Speaker 1>at something and let that be enough for one afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the four original control dramas. Interrogator, I'm sorry, intimidator, interrogator, aloof,

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<v Speaker 1>and poor me. Then the five that are not in

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<v Speaker 1>a Celestine prophecy that I believe exists, which are the rescuer, Charmer, Gaslighter, competitor,

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<v Speaker 1>and perfectionist. The list continues to grow as you get

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<v Speaker 1>closer and actually look because people who vie for power

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<v Speaker 1>want to steal your energy or control or control you

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they can never run out of

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<v Speaker 1>ways to do it, and they will always find new

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<v Speaker 1>ways when one old way stops working. And here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want you guys, to walk away with. None of

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<v Speaker 1>these are about identifying your parents so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>build a case against them. The real work is always

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<v Speaker 1>is way less comfortable than that. It's asking which one

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<v Speaker 1>of these you're running from right now, and to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the people who trust and love you the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing about control dramas. You don't inherit the

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<v Speaker 1>wound and skip the pattern. You inherit both. The wound

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<v Speaker 1>feels like something that happened to you. The pattern feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's become a personality trait, but it really hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same nervous system wiring just showing up thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years later in a different body, running the same playbook

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<v Speaker 1>that you swore you would never use. I think about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot, believe it or not, because most people

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<v Speaker 1>think that they need better communication skills or a better

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<v Speaker 1>morning routine, and what actually needs to happen is that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to go back and find the six year

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<v Speaker 1>old still bracing at the dinner table that no longer

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<v Speaker 1>exists anymore. You cannot parent, lead, or love from a

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system that is still defending itself against something that

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<v Speaker 1>ended decades ago. It's not a metaphor, that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>this works. So if you listen to this whole episode

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<v Speaker 1>and one of these things hit a little too close,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a bad sign. That's the whole reason I

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<v Speaker 1>did this. Awareness is the only way you cannot change

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<v Speaker 1>a pattern that you've never actually named. You'll just keep

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<v Speaker 1>calling it your personality and wondering why the same relationship

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<v Speaker 1>keeps repeating with different faces attached to it. So go

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<v Speaker 1>look at your own house this week, not your parents' house, yours,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that you're building right now with your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>your partner, the people who are watching you and how

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<v Speaker 1>you handle pressure, and they that are taking mental notes

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<v Speaker 1>of everything that you do, study in your behavior and

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<v Speaker 1>then course correct where necessary and that's the episode
