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Speaker 7: All right, do you like that one? I sure do.
I'm Tom Gresham. This is gun talk. We're back with
you now. I want to bring in right now, the
guy who's responsible for that incredible song, that wonderful music.
Here Anthony Segura from the New Mexico Shooting Sports Shooting
Sports Association.
Speaker 8: Anthony, that's it, the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association, Right, Okay,
you're Y for short.
Speaker 2: It's MSSA.
Speaker 7: Okay, either way, it's a MOUNTA. There you go, and
you're the executive director. Absolutely, yeah, okay, So all right,
so tell me about I mean, I just played a
segment of the song and I like it a lot.
I just think it is a great promotion for your
state organization as well as for the Second Amendment. Tell
me the story. How'd that come about?
Speaker 8: I just had this song in my head and I
play a lot with AI if. I came across an
app that actually creates songs for you.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 8: So I took I typed up the lyrics and I
put them into the song and it created a song
for me. And it asked me what type of genre
I wanted and so on and so forth, and I'm
big into the country. I like country music, so I
picked it actually gave me five songs to pick from.
Speaker 7: So you wrote the lyrics on this? I wrote the lyrics. Yeah, Well,
I know where that goes. Sometimes you get a thing
going in your head. You just got to get it
out there and make it happen. Otherwise it just spins
in your head and drives you crazy, exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I've been using this tep of technology for
quite a while because I'm new Mexico can carry instructor
and you know, I'm really busy. So I have and
have been approved to do a online website for contill carry.
Oh and so I don't want to just put black
and white on a screen, so I have an avatar
that actually says the things that I want to say
through the program to make it more interesting. So I've
been using that probably for maybe four or five years
since the first technology first came out. I brought that
to this song. That type of technology, it's really expanded
since I started four or five years ago with it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen the actual video.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just going to say, people need to
go take a look at the video because you've got
all sorts of images with it. I mean, it is
a stirring and exciting presentation. I mean I applaud you
for it.
Speaker 8: All the pictures are created by chat GPT amazing.
Speaker 7: You just tell them what you want.
Speaker 8: Tell what I wanted and then I'd said, well, you know,
add this to take this off or at our official
logo to the picture, so on and so forth, and it
did it. And I've been using it long enough that
it pretty well learns what I like and it adds
the things that I want on there. So it's amazing.
AIS is so creative.
Speaker 7: So what's been the reaction? I mean, I know this
things just came out. What's been the reaction to the
video so far?
Speaker 8: Most people really really like it. I've had a few
problems with some of my other board members, especially on
the military side. They thought people are going to think
that we're affiliated with a military type organization. So I
modified it because there's a part in there that I
talk about, you know, where people step up to do things,
and I changed that from a military organization to fire
and police.
Speaker 7: All right, so tell folks about the organization itself. And
there are a lot of people in this country that think, well,
in Mexico has got to be us a good western state.
Shouldn't be a problem, you know, there shouldn't be any
issues with gun rights. You actually got a whole messive
issues you got to deal with all the time.
Speaker 8: Oh, we're one of the worst as a matter of fact.
And that's it. We were started in nineteen thirty five,
you know, fighting for gun rights. And of course I
have nineteen thirty five plaster all over the song in
the video.
Speaker 2: But you know, our.
Speaker 8: Governor here, we have one of the worst governors. Thank god,
she's going to be gone, but she actually had the
Senate put out what's called Senate Bill seventeen, which would
have been the worst gun bill in the nation. Through
our efforts, through efforts of the gun stores, the NRA,
National Shooting Sports Foundation, you know, everybody, we all worked
together and we fought it along with the Democrats because
there's a lot of conservative Democrats, so we all got
together at the last minute when we were able to
block it. Yeah, that's that's been our challenge for the
last eight years with this governor. She wants to take
away every type of gun rights that she can have,
and that's what we're here to stop.
Speaker 7: Well, I got to say, that's what state organizations do.
Because a lot people think about the Fed, FEDS and
the Supreme Court and Congress, but a lot of the effort,
a lot of the gun banning has taking place at
the state level and you got to fight it at
the state level. You don't want to try to have
to go in and undo it once it's done. If
it all possible, you want to stop it before it
gets passed.
Speaker 8: We have elections, of course this year, and hopefully in
November that the person that I'm supporting actually gets elected
because he is.
Speaker 2: A member of our association.
Speaker 7: So that his name is Greg Hall.
Speaker 8: He is the former mayor of a little community near
Albuquerque called Rio Rancho, and he's done an excellent job
for real Rancho.
Speaker 7: Around and Rio Rancho may have been a small community
at some point, but it's a pretty big town now right.
Speaker 8: It's growing pretty large, and it's clean. You don't see
the homeless, you don't see the graffiti, you don't see
all that, where Albuquerque is totally the opposite with the
mare that we have. So again, like I said, Greg
Hall is a supporter of an MSSA. He's a member,
longtime member of the association. We can't endorse by our policy,
we can't endorse any in the radical person, but for
me personally, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it would be good if we could get
haul in there.
Speaker 8: Right exactly exactly. We need that type of person in there.
Speaker 7: I think, let me ask you a question here. You're
good at AI and this is an amazing presentation you've done.
If there are people in other state gun rights organizations
you are thinking more, I'd love to do that. I
just don't know where to start. Could they reach out
to you for some tips?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, I've been a call back
from a couple of Zation state organizations from the NRA,
and I told them, you know, that's it's kind of funny, Uh,
I've been I'm a webmaster by trade. I'm retired, but
i still do websites and I've been helping the some
of the state organizations with the NRA get their websites
up and going. And I actually won for twenty twenty five.
I was just presented the award for public Service for
all the websites that I've been helping.
Speaker 7: Also, congratulations, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was presented that by the president of the NRA
and that was that was a great honor. You know,
it's kind of a surprise. I never did this for,
you know, any type of promotion for myself. It was
just more to help the people. So I guess that's
made it a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But I don't have a problem.
Speaker 8: But you know the thing is, if it helps gun
rights in New Mexico or throughout the United States, I
don't have a problem helping anybody. We actually got a
couple of memberships already signed up off of it, I believe.
Speaker 7: So that's that's the goal, and that's the goal. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we need the people, We need the support of
the community throughout New Mexico of course throughout the United States.
Speaker 7: That is terrific. Anthony, Thank you so much. Anthony Segura,
Executive director of the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association. I
encourage people to go to YouTube take a look at
this video. It is really great. I just think you
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about that. It is interesting as I look at all
the various guns that are out there, and honestly, we
have more guns available, more types of guns, better quality
guns we've ever had before. The latest figures for gun
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The background checks on NFA items, which is mostly suppressors,
is up one hundred and seventy seven percent. Incredible that.
It's amazing what happens when you take that two hundred
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I just got a new one from Silencer Central. Haven't
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I mean, the Form four gets approved in like a week.
It's just amazing stuff. And also, there are so many
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beneficiaries of that. We're getting a really good deal on
some of those. By the way, have you bought a
suppressor or you think about buying a suppressor, I'd like
to know which ones you're getting, because honestly, there are
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keep up. People will tell me about a new suppressor
or silencer and I never even heard of the company before,
and so it's amazing what's going on on the subject
that we were talking about guns of different prices, and
you know, I am a real fan of the Ruger RXm.
It's about a four hundred and fifty dollars pistol. I
think it is terrific. It does everything you needed to do.
It is a Palmer gun block ish in style. It
just works shoots very well. I have for what twenty
years now been a huge fan of the Smith M
and P Smith WESTN M and P line, and of
course it started out with just the M and P
and now it's a whole line and lots of different ones.
I just they just did a cool promotion on the
Bodyguard two point zero with a I think it's a
Farridian red dot. That's a really small three eighty pistol,
a great concealed carry pistol. Good carry pistol and yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
it's a three eighty, but get over it. Three eighty
works just fine. So they just did a nice promotion
of that. I think that's a really good package. There
are so many good ones out there. And yet, like
I said, I've carried the RXm, I carried the M
and P, I've carried the sick P three sixty five
a character of a first occasionally, not as much, honestly,
only when I'm not going out into the woods where
I might need something a bigger caliber. Which oh yeah,
by the way, we got a bear. I got a
video from our cameras around the cabin here, and this
thing is right underneath the deck of our house a
couple of nights ago. And I think what happens with
a lot of folks around here put out their trash
around fourth of July and we don't get pick up.
It was probably four days for a pickup. And so
we've got a lot of trash cans out there with
a lot of smelly garbage, and this bear decided to
hit them all and it was knocking over trash cans
like crazy. And so now my neighbors are going, yeah,
what about bear spray and some I'm carrying guns. Okay,
nothing wrong with that, as long as you know what
you're doing. Anyway, just as I think about which guns
I like, you really can't go with what I like
because I'm all over the place. I like four and
five hundred dollars pistols, and we'll carry those for self defense.
I also like twenty five hundred dark crystals. There you go,
ask to Rep. Steve on Line four out of Omaha. Steve,
you're on the line, sir, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: So I've got kind of a strange range report for you.
Speaker 7: Alright.
Speaker 11: Last weekend, visiting family down in Missouri, we uh poking
around my wife's grandfather's farmstead, and we were in the
smoke cap because there's always some cool tools in there,
you know, and you're kind of poking around, and yeah,
just walking out the door, I look over and I go, nah,
I can't be it looks like a rifle leaning up
against a corner behind a bunch of two by fours
and stuff. And wouldn't you know it, it was rusted, pitted,
nasty soot all over it, bird poop, you name it, right.
I moved the lever the hammer came back. I squeezed
the hammer dropped. I thought, hey, maybe this old thing
has got something, maybe maybe, you know. So we started
asking her dad and this was her dad's dad. He's
ninety four and he I mean, the house was bulldozed
thirty five years ago and the barn is still there,
but this smokehouse was kind of inverted into a tool shed.
We're thinking this gun may have been leaning up against
the corner inside this smokehouse for sixty years, possibly after house,
because her her grandpa died forty some years ago. And
we're trying to figure out. Okay, it's a Marlin ninety
two and twenty two and it's got SL and l
R right on top of the you know, so it
was for all three you know, twenty two rimfires, right,
and we're looking at the number, and some of the
Marlin records have been lost, but it appears maybe nineteen
fifteen we found a model ninety two in twenty two
rim fire twenty four inch octagon. Beryl. I want to
try to re finish it and bring this thing back
to life.
Speaker 7: I mean, well that's why I was going to ask you,
And okay, I love refinishing it. And restoring it. The
question is is that something you want to do or
do you want to send that to somebody?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 11: No, no, I'm going to send it. I don't Okay,
I could, I could maybe you know, straight some of
the gunk off and but I did with my thumbnail.
And if there's decent wood under there, it's a good,
nice brownish walnut and all is now brown.
Speaker 7: I got a question for you, then, sure, sure, And
I don't know where you want to go with your
refinish your restoration. But when you said first, they came
to mind, because actually I got an interview coming up
with Doug Turnbull this week later on the show Turnbull Restoration.
They do phenomenal work. Yeah, if you said I really
want this thing to look like new, they can make
it look like new.
Speaker 11: Hmmm. I hadn't thought of them. There's a place in
Central Nebraska that has done some work for me risk restoring.
Not in this bad of shape, but like silver, you know,
no no bloing at all. But this is this is
rather pitted. The board looks okay, you know, but you know, yeah.
Speaker 7: And then that's the question just depends on how much
it's pitted. Anyway. I just want to throw that name out.
The turnabowl restoration is a possibility, and you may have
a place already. Cool story though, I mean, what a
family heirloom. Definitely. I love the idea that you've got
to get it fixed up, whether you make it a
wallhanger or you decide to make it a shooter. Either way,
but good on you. And look, I appreciate great call,
great range report, amazing stuff. Fine. I mean we talk
about barn finds for cars. That's a smokehouse fire for
a gun. Yeah, it's not the best way to store
a gun, but you might be ever bring it back,
get a good gun smith to take it over. But
I love the idea of maybe doing a full house restorational.
There you go. All right, our number is eight sixty six.
Talk gun or top talk gun. That'll get you here.
Do you have any of those stories? You ever found
a gun somewhere? What a great story. All right, We've
got a lot to talk about, so let's get right
to it. Line two. Let's see. Oh no, correction, here
are we I'm catching out here? Sorry guys? Yeah? Line two,
David's with us out helling them on town. Hey David,
you're talking about a revolver for bears.
Speaker 12: Yeah, right, carry one an archery season, a Model six
twenty nine Skipson lessons the stainless steel and I am
looking for a reload, perhaps a three hundred and five
got check bullets, and I want to know where I
can get them.
Speaker 7: Let me back up, why do you want that?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 12: Occasionally Risally bears come into our hunting party.
Speaker 7: I understand. But there's a lot of good AMMO. Would
you consider factory AMO or do you you just really
want to load your owne?
Speaker 12: I really want to load now, all.
Speaker 7: Right, I don't know where you're going to get that bullet.
Have you done some looking around?
Speaker 12: Yeah? I have a couple of gun shops here. And
is there a better round than that three hundred and
five RAN bullet?
Speaker 7: Probably? But you know it's there are a lot of
good hard casts let bullets out there. You just gotta
do a little search for that. You can find something
you can load. Buffalo Boar makes some really good loads,
factory loads, but again this fact your loads. Black KILLSAMO
has the Honey Badger loads, which I like a lot,
a little bit less recoil, but really good penetration. But yeah,
if you couldn't get a three hundred or three hundred
and five green hard casts lead bullet and it shoots
well out of your gun. That would work just fine,
But you're just gonna have to do some poking around
to figure out who now. The other option, of course,
if you want to go deep into it, is to
get the moles and cast your own bullets.
Speaker 12: Oh no, I don't want to get involved in that.
I want to pure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's going down the rabbit hole of Once you
get into that, you're going, Oh, it never stops. I'll
get this mole, I'll get that mole. Now we're casting
bullets and end up like the rest of us, and
got more bullets we know what to do with. You
can't shoot them all, So I would say just do
a little poking around. I'm going to put the call
out though. If somebody knows a good place to find
three hundred to three hundred and five grain hard casts
lead bullets, give us a call. We'll help David out. David,
thank you for the call, sir. Let's grab Tanner on
one out of Durant, Go, Colorado. Tanner, you're on gun Talk.
What's your question.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've been looking at the Ruger RXm. Here in Colorado,
the gun laws are changing August first, and to buy
any semi automatic gun you're gonna have to have a
special card and take some classes. So I'm looking at
a everyday carry this all around. Well, you know, you
good to go right or pistol.
Speaker 7: I have one. I like it a lot, shoots really well.
The other thing it's very nice about the RXm design
is that it has it's a chassis gun, so that
the actual firearm is just a part inside, so you
can get different size frames for it. You can get
a compact, you can get a full size, and it's
all the same gun. Once you get the gun, you're
just getting It's like getting different guns, but you don't
have to fill out the paperwork and do all that stuff.
Speaker 11: Awesome.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I like the sound of that. I'm familiar with
the Gen three block platform. I've built to see Polymer eighties,
so I'm familiar with that, So that sounds like a
pistol that I'd really.
Speaker 7: Like to me. The RXm has a better feeling grip
and a little bit different grip angle, and I think
it's better. It's a little bit closer to the standard
nineteen eleven seventeen degree grip angle, and I just think
it shoots better points better than the Gen three blocks.
I think the Gen six block probably fixed some of
those things. But I think the RXm, at what four
hundred and fifty to five hundred bucks is a heck
of a deal.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a cheap gun.
Speaker 13: Are there any variances in the lengths of the barrel
or is it just one? One length and that's it.
Speaker 7: As of right now, it's just one. I expect some
others to come out at some point. But like I say,
once you get the gun, you've got the part in there,
and you can put it into different sized grips and
probably different slides, different barrels and everything else. I haven't
looked into all those variables, but I think it's a
good platform. And if you're just trying to figure out
I want to get something before all these laws go in,
if you can get one locally you can find at
the store, I'd probably advise you just to go ahead
and get it.
Speaker 11: Awesome.
Speaker 13: Well, thank you very much, all.
Speaker 7: Right, thanks and good luck with that. I appreciate the call.
Let's grab Robert out of Arkansas. Robert, what's on your
mind sir, Well.
Speaker 9: I have a couple of questions, tom, Okay, I gifted
a twelve gate to a friend of mine on the
request that he donate one hundred dollars to the children's hospitals,
which he did. Okay, I want to make sure that
I am legal for doing that.
Speaker 7: Only two questions here, is he in state?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 7: Okay, so you can do a direct transfer to him?
And do you know he's not a prohibited person. That
is not.
Speaker 9: No, he is not a feeling.
Speaker 7: Okay. Yeah, that's absolutely not a problem.
Speaker 9: Good to go, Erry, Thank you very much for that. Now,
I have, as I told your screener, I have I
love pistols. I have them around my house. I'm a widower,
and so I look at him as furniture that I
might need to use some day.
Speaker 7: I never heard it described like that before.
Speaker 9: Well, I just I don't ignore them, right, they have
their names. There's you know, two in the kitchen, one
of the living group, one in my bedroom. And we
will not go further than that. But say, if someone
were to break in and steal thee.
Speaker 7: Am I liable, probably not in Arkansas. In another state,
they may say, well, you didn't have them locked up,
But you got them locked inside your house? You keep
your house locked, right? Yes, Okay, I don't think so.
At the same time, I guess the question then becomes,
and this is a personal question, because there's no right
or wrong on it, is that being responsible or irresponsible
to have them laying around and not in some kind
of a locked container. I cannot answer that. That's going
to be a personal decision. Are they all loaded.
Speaker 11: All the way?
Speaker 7: Okay, so they're all loaded? You got loaded guns, and look,
I'm just assuming at this point you don't have grandkids
coming over where they could get access.
Speaker 9: No, all right.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's your house, your guns. You can keep them
loaded or not loaded. I might double check the locks
of my house, honestly, seriously, just to make sure that
they're secure. Beyond that, if they're in your house. It's
my personal opinion, not a legal opinion, because, like I say,
in various states that law changes and you might be liable.
But my personal opinion is if somebody breaks into the house,
then you should not responsible for them stealing your stuff.
But you know that's kind of where I am. All right,
So give me an example. You say you've named your guns.
Give me an example of a couple of names.
Speaker 9: Well, there's then there's Lay and there's Dayla.
Speaker 7: Why why are those names?
Speaker 9: Because those were important ladies in my life. Eli makes clampet.
Speaker 7: I was thinking that might be where that came from.
Speaker 9: Well, Dayla is my youngest chaining and so she is
the snubnose revolver. But no, I just like I said,
I actually pet them when I come through, like they're pets.
But I know they're there.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, and that's.
Speaker 9: All of it.
Speaker 7: Are you really describing for those you're thinking, Okay, that
sounds weird. You got a gun collection. This is you know,
you like, look at your guns and your gun collection.
You have them spread out around your house, and the
fact that you keep them loaded is just the fact
that you've got them ready in case you need them
in case of a home break in. But all you're
really describing is a gun collection.
Speaker 9: Yes, sir. But now when I say they're loaded, uh,
the ones with magazine, not the revolver. Dayla is a revolver. O.
The rist of them have cartridges and so they're loaded,
but I have to tap and rack.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you got a loaded magazine in but nothing
in the chamber, so you would have to rack it, okay, correct,
got you? Okay, you know, and that's I see where
you are there. So somebody couldn't just pick it up
and pull the trigger that's going to go off. I
think that's a reasonable compromised position to be in there.
I love it, Robert. Thank you for the call, sir.
That is fascinating. Just a different way of looking at
your collection there. Speaking of thank you, sir. Speaking of
new laws going into effect, we had to call about
Colorado and we've got a new law going into effecting
Kentucky takes place. I guess this Tuesdays goes into effect.
Allows eighteen to twenty year olds to apply for a
provisional concealed carry license for the first time. House Bill
three to twelve expanded the constil k permits to that
age group, with some restrictions. Let's see here. Oh yeah.
The governor vetoed this bill and saying that Kentuckians under
twenty one are already barred from buying alcohol and tobacco
and that conceil carry should be no different. Really, one's
a constitutional right, the other two are not. But the
Governor's veto got overridden by a twenty eight to nine vote.
So there you go. So that's what's going on in
the state of Kentucky. Let's see, let's go talk to
Tony and Chandler Arizona on four. Hey, Tony, you're up.
Speaker 14: Tom. I wanted to comment on the Supreme Court taking
up an assault weapon ban case. My concern is that
the crazy States. Look, you're one hundred percent right. Nobody
knows which ways the Court is going to rule. However,
if they if they, if they roll and rule in
our favor. My concern is that a lot of these states,
the crazy States, are just going to say, we don't
care what the Supreme Court says, we're not changing anything.
The band stays. And the Seventh Circuit up in Illinois
just came out with the ruling basically up upholding Illinois
assault weapons ban, even though the Supreme Court told them
literally two weeks prior, saying hey, we're going to take
this up next session. So I think it's gonna it's
going to be really interesting to see, you know, especially
coming from the party that preaches constantly about the rule
of law and nobody's above the law and anything else. Well,
apparently you're above the law. If you just don't like
what the Supreme Court is telling you to do, so.
Speaker 7: Well, I share your concern, but let me say where
I am on this. I think it's going to go
a different way. I think that the AAR fifteen bands
are gonna go away. But I think what's going to
happen is the states are then going to spin around quickly,
the states that have the bands and say, Okay, we
can't ban them. We'll just make it a lot harder
for you to get them. We're going to require you
to take a training course before you can buy one.
We're going to require you to get a permit to purchase.
We're going to require you to spend a whole bunch
of money before you can buy one of these. I
think they're going to throw more roadblocks in front of it.
They'll say, Okay, we can't ban it. Supreme Court says
we can't ban these guns. We're just going to make
it very inconvenient and very expensive. And at that point,
that just generates more And that goes back to what
I was saying earlier. The fight never ends. We always
are going to do this, and they're always going to
be coming back and saying we're gonna put roadblocks in
your way, and then we're going to come back in
the courts and sue them for that and have to
knock that down. So we may love to say next
year we're gonna get rid of all these ar fifteen bands. Yeah,
but you know what, in fifty years, we're still going
to be fighting this because we have been fighting it
for more than fifty years, and we will continue because
there are those who simply don't want us to have
guns at all, and they'll do it a piece of
the time because they think that's what they can do.
So Tony, I appreciate the call, and I appreciate what
you're saying. I'm not sure any stage is going to say, well,
we're just going to ignore that. During the court you're
going to say we're just because you can't they not
without moving well into the revolutionary stage. You can't just
say we're just going to ignore the Supreme Court's rulings
because that is the law. But they will just find
out it's like what they did with Bruin. They say, Okay,
you're saying that we have to issue conceal, okay, permits
the great We're just going to make all the state
a gun free zone, so you can have the permit,
you just can't carry it anywhere. Well, that's what they did.
So we fought back on that one and just won
that case in Hawaii. Will get rid of those vampire rules.
We're going to get rid of the restrictions on where
you can carry. For the most part, it is a
constant battle, and it will continue to be a constant battle.
And just what we are we have to understand this
is we win little battles and we move forward. And
we are moving forward rapidly right now, and we're the
place I never thought we'd get to. Honestly, we are
winning huge and yet we will always have to fight it.
And I guess where I'm going with this. Maybe what
I'm preaching and asking for is a reset on the mindset.
The mindset has to be this is a battle we
fight every day when we get up. If you're a
two A activist, you're serious about this. Every day or
every week, you go get reinformed, what's going on, what's
happening this week. You're following me over on X, You're
following the gun rights groups, you're belonging to the gun
rights groups, your state group and the national groups, and
you just say, look, for the rest of my life,
this is what I'm going to be doing. This is
It's not the only thing I'm going to do, but
it's a very real part of who I am. It's
a big part of what I do, part of my commitment.
I'm a Second Amendment supporter and activist, and I understand
that there will be those who are always trying to
take away our gun rights, and so that means there
will always be me being willing to fight against it
with money and with time. It's kind of the same thing.
In many cases. It's money and time. You can say
you're a Second Amendment supporter, but you're really known by
what you devote your money and your time to. That
tells people who you really are and what you really support.
Flip service online or in person without money and time
being devoted to it pretty much worth this. It just is.
It's a fight we're going to be in forever. I'm in.
I hope that you are eight six six talk gun
gets you in here. We'll be right back with more
gun talk. But I was just talking about the battle
is constant and the gun ban forces. We'll always find
a way. I just got this from Joe, he says,
on July one, the City of San Jose, California, found
a new way to prevent citizens from obtaining a conceal
weapon carry permit without ever going into the legislative process.
So they didn't have to go to the legislature, they
didn't have to pass a law at all. The Sheriff's office,
Joe continues for the City and County of San Jose
simply raised the application fee for a CCP permit to
one thousand and five hundred and ninety one dollars, with
three hundred and eighteen dollars of that being non refundable
due at the time of the filing. One thousand and
five hundred and ninety one dollars to get a conceal
K permit, he says, not counting the cost of the gun.
When you add in all the other associated costs like
testing fees and costs, obtaining a carry permit in the
City and County of San Jose will now cost you
over two thousand dollars. It's just the kind of thing
that I would expect Harmy Dylon from the Department of
Justice to jump on and file suit. But it does
show you the links to which the gun banners will go,
and in this case you simply have a Shaff's department says, Oh,
we're just going to raise the fees because we can,
because we actually don't want anybody here to have a
carry permit. Even though people with carry permits, and this
is documented in state after state of state, people with
carry permits essentially don't commit crime. I mean, it's so
close to none as to be none. People with carry
permits commit crimes at a rate of about one percent
of the general public. People with carry permits commit crimes
at a rate of about one fifth that of police officers.
Let me put that in a different way. Police officers
are five times as likely to commit a crime as
somebody with a conceal carry permit, and your average member
of the public walking down the street is one hundred
times more likely to commit a crime than somebody who
has a conceal carry permit. The mere act of applying
for a conceal carry permit pretty much guarantees, not completely,
but close to guarantees that this is a responsible person,
a person who obeys the laws, a person who takes
responsibility for himself or herself and wants to do it
right and will spend the money and the time to
get the permit. And yet you have the San Jose
Shares Department saying, yeah, we don't want anybody to have
a carry permit, so we're going to make it really
hard and really expensive. That's my example of how the
fight is always going to continue. And they'll say, yeah,
well we're not blocking anybody. You can. Everybody can get
a permit. We just have to cover our costs. Right,
that's what you're doing. You're covering your costs. I don't
think so, not when it almost takes nothing to do
a background check these days. Just putting barriers in the way,
and it will continue, simple as that. So all right,
we're gonna switch for you. And when we come back here,
I want to talk a little bit about gunsmithing. Is
gunsmithing still alive? And well can you make a living
as a gunsmith in America? And also what's being done
to help promote gunsmithing and specialized areas within that. It's
an interesting subject and we're going to cover that, and of
course we'll take your calls looking for range reports as always,
things you've been shooting guns, you've been buying, maybe even
something you sold. Although some people say I never sell guns,
well I do. I want to buy one gun, I
might sell two or three to get a better way
upgrading