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welcome today one of the men who has been keeping
the tidy leagues rulling along all year. He does a
ton of work in there, and he's a very intelligent
manager in and of himself. I know because he's my competition.
He has been. He is my competition. It's Tim.
Speaker 3: How you doing today, Hey, Jesse. It's good to be
on with you. I'm doing fantastic, looking forward to a
fun hour of talking some fantasy hockey with you.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, Tim, you're you're all up in there. You
say you got about twenty fantasy leagues right now? Is
that accurate?
Speaker 3: Twenty different leagues of all shapes and sizes and formats
keeps me busy in my spare time.
Speaker 2: And how many of those are dynasty? Tim? I got to.
Speaker 3: Ask, Oh goodness, so at least fifteen?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: Wow? Yes, already we're from twelve team to thirty two
team and everything in between.
Speaker 2: A man of our own heart here on Fantasy Hockey Life.
So you are up on the player pool, you were
up on all the guys you have to think about
to be successful in fantasy hockey. And I know we
talked about maybe some ideas of what to talk about
this morning, or some ideas you had, and I know
the first that came up, and I think you maybe
were even talking to some of our other folks in
the Fantasy Hockey Life discord about second half performers, guys
who've had a big jump from since January first. So, Tim,
why don't we talk about a couple of those guys,
the guys who've come up in the second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you almost want to call it the Fiala bump.
Kevin Fiala is renowned for a second half as a
second half performer. So we thought, why don't we look
at who's been a little bit hotter the second half
the season. So the first one, the first name I
want to bring up is he's a top ten player
in the league, so it probably shouldn't surprise anyone, but
given his situation on his club team, it's a unique
maybe not a unique, but it's a standout performance. Is
David Pasternak. David Pasternak is up about zero point eight
points per game since January one. His IPP is the
highest amongst the top fifty point getters on the season
outside of Travis Connectney. I really think that if Boston
does somehow sneak into the playoffs, it's all on David
Pasternak's shoulders. I really like him for Heart Trophy consideration
this year. Second guy that I would like to talk
about is Philip Forsburg. Philip Forsburgh's kind of on a
team this year that maybe is underperforming somewhat, but Philip forber,
Forsburg continues to push a point a game, beat the
number one force on that team. He's probably the most
consistent performer they've had. One of the things about Philip
Forsburg is when the past he's had a little bit
of injury troubles, but for the last two years he
hasn't missed a game. So Philip Forsburg's up about point
seven points per game since January one. If I'm looking
for a player to help me with a playoff push,
He's definitely one that I might target.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Philip Borsburg is an interesting character anyway, That
mustache man, that mustach that probably explains like at least
a point two points per game, right.
Speaker 3: There, Nashville style.
Speaker 2: Oh, and I my guy George Kittle, the forty nine
ers tight end who went to the University of Iowa,
which is my alma manor is buddies with him. I
don't quite understand that there's I probably should understand that.
I'm sure that's been like a halftime segment somewhere or
an intermission type segment. But yeah, Forestburgh's his Q ratio
has come way up. I feel like in his mid
to late career. I tend to try to block him
out in my mind because of the Washington Capitals trading
him as a young player. Martin, Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah.
So those are definitely two guys, big name guys I think,
who've been in higher rounds over the years. But we
do not want to miss the big jumps just because
they are familiar names. But the third guy, I don't know.
Tim you're up there in Ontario? Is this a Toronto
tax situation or who's the other big jumper?
Speaker 3: There might be a little bit of bias on my
part on this one. No, Matthew and I since Christmas
has really I see him play most nights, and it's
almost like since he came back from injury earlier in
the year, he's really stepped up. Of course, he's got
prime deployment playing with Matthews and Marners, but he's up
about point six points per game since Jan one. When
I looked at his time on ice from last year
to this year, he's up almost five minutes a game.
So that playing with those type of linemates and then
getting that type of deployment, he's bound to hopefully his
starts to improve. He is definitely he is on a
thirty gold pace this year. But if you'd ask me
last year where I thought his ceiling might be, that's
starting to hit it now. I wonder where this ceiling
will be for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you certainly have to appreciate that. And just because
just because there may be a Toronto tax on a
guy that is he might gain a little bit of
extra value or cost a little lecture in trade, we
don't want to be blinded to the fact that you
do have a real breakout. Looking here, how can a
non Big four forward in Toronto get this kind of juice? Though?
How high can one of these guys get? What do
you see as the possibility for nights in that scenario.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting the comparison I think of with that.
Although his true breakout happened after he left Toronto, is
Zach Kymond And I often wonder was Zach Kyman if
he'd at least had resigned him when he signed with
the Oilers, would he have experienced the same breakout playing
alongside Matthews as opposed to Connor McDavid. Connor McDavid is
the bar, right, Maybe there's a eighty point season in
there for Matthew and I. Matthew and I's is doing
it at a lot younger age in my minds, maybe
that's the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be quite a nice ceiling. We could take that. Yeah,
zach Kymon was one. Yeah. I guess if I flashback
in time, Zach Kymon is exactly the comp because I
was like, Ah, come on, Zach Kymon, that's fine. Everybody's
talking about him because he's in Toronto, but when he
goes to another team, he's not going to be all that.
And then of course he was all that. So we're
gonna talk about some I can half performers and how
much we're expecting for the stretch run. Who is going
to keep it up? And yeah, let's start. We talked
about Pasternak here, so what are you exactly expecting for
the this to the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I think Pastornach keeps it up. Again, he's a thoroughbrett.
He's a top ten player in the league. But what
I think is cool about this year is he's doing
it and even last year, he's doing it without quite
the supporting cast that he's had in the past years.
So he's on at one point seven point per game pace.
That's that's pretty heavy stuff. But I actually think that
if anyone can maintain that, it's David Pasternak.
Speaker 2: Another Yeah, for sure, no post, he's always right up there.
So yeah, hopefully that is something he's able to establish
even if Boston drops out of it. Nikita kucher Off
is another guy who we're looking at here. But what
do you see for Couch's season conclusion.
Speaker 3: It's interesting with any Tampa player right because they're not
I think as of today, they're still in the first
wild card and they got a little bit of a
lead on the second wild card, but they're not home
and cooled yet. Kucharov's going to have to continue playing
until the end of the season, hopefully. But here's another guy.
He's probably a top five player in the league. The
guy has sublime skill and he's surrounded by some pretty
good talent. With Tampa Bay. Again, he's around the one
point six point per game. Last year he had a
great year. He was almost two points per game. So
I don't think that's out of the realm for him
going into the going into the stretch drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And another of the top guys, Leon
dry Sidle.
Speaker 3: It's funny when we look at when we look at
all these players, we're showing a slight decline from January
first to current day. But these guys play at such
a level. It's almost just the abbs and flows of
the season. The one thing I always respect about Leon
Sidle is the way he protects the puck on the ice.
When you watch him battle in the corners and he
comes out with a puck nine point nine times out
of ten. He's just an incredible hockey player. You can
play him with McDavid, you can split them up, and
Leon Dreysidele continues to produce. I don't think there's any
reason why he's going to stumble down the stretch drive.
If you continue to maintain that one and a half
one point six point per game pace, and Edmonton will
be fun to watch them as they move towards the
playoff season.
Speaker 2: Now, next up a guy who I think was the
MVP of the Four Nations. I don't know. I stopped
watching after the first couple of days. I don't know
how it ended or anything like that. Don't spoil it
for me, but what do you think of a Nathan
McKinnon's conclusion?
Speaker 3: Nathan McKinnon. Again, these are some softballs we're talking about,
but Nathan McKinnon's and who world talent. It was pretty
cool to watch him and Sydney Crosby at the Four Nations.
He's going to come back to a Colorado team. He's
with Martin Neekash right now and knee Cash is He's
going to continue his pace playing alongside Nathan McKinnon. He
makes everybody on his team better. So again, here's another
guy that a little bit under his point pace from
last year, But there's no reason to think that there's
He's just going to keep piling up points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again Philip Orsburgh comes up, what are you
seeing for him going forward.
Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's one of the most
underrated players in my mind in the NHL. From a
fantasy perspective, Philip Forsburg is actually a very valuable asset
in both points and categories leagues because he does he
gets the shots, he gets the power play, does get
a decent amount of hits. Again, He's going to be
a guy that that that Nashville is going to count
on as they go forward. He's going to be He's
going to be the straw that stirs their drink. And
if if some of the guys, some of the talent
down in Nashville can pull it together down the stretch drive,
maybe they can set themselves up for a better season
next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. All right, now, let's talk about some
of these guys. There's a couple guys I know that
came up a couple of times in our discussions here
who could see some scoring increases in the second half.
And the first place we're headed is to Columbus. So
tell me about a guy in Columbus you think could
see a big uptick.
Speaker 3: So it's funny, Hey, So Columbus had some injury trouble
this year, Marchenko, Chinnikov, Boon Jenner hasn't played it. Actually,
I think he played his first game last night. With
a team that stocked with such good young talent, it
definitely gives opportunity to some of the younger guys, but
also it gave some opportunity for an old dog, for
a guy again an ex Toronto maple Leaf that I
got a lot of time for James Van Riemsdyke, and
that's there might be some of our listeners where they
go butt jan One. His point per game pace is
up a little over half. He definitely was getting a
little bit better deployment with those injuries, although when you
look at his time on ice, he had spurts during
those injuries where he would get more time and then
other games where he get less time. But he's an
old hand who knows what he's doing around the net,
and so's we had an uptake in production. Do I
think that will continue for him? Probably not, But you
got these guys come back from Marchenko came back last night,
so did Boone Jenner, so that will lead into his opportunity.
But good for JVR. He's one of those old school
guys who you want to see have a good end
to their careers because he's he's been a warrior all
these years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is the type of guy who
we talked We've talked about some of these cell high
type guys, and of course it's easy to say that
a JVR, if he catches fire right now, this would
be the time to sell on it, because we you
know it's not gonna last forever. But if you did
have him in like our tidy league, and we're trying
to sell high on him to a team that was
making a run, what do you think would be a
vaguely fair return for him.
Speaker 3: It's a I think this is a stretch a bit,
but even even a high second round, a third round pick,
maybe a low level prospect. I don't think there's a
ton of value left in JVR, But you never know,
depending on Columbus's schedule in your playoff format, maybe he's
a guy you might be interested in. Maybe there's some
off days where you can deploy him and he can
help your team out in the stretch run.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That it's always difficult in a dynasty league to
convince somebody to trade for somebody who they have seen
on the waiver wire for months in potentially years and
just never wanted to pick up Oh no, really you're
gonna pick him up, And then a month later you
think you can flup him to me. But sometimes that's
how it works when deployment changes. And the other guy
who you were talking about here is a player who
really isn't up and comer. We knew about Adam Fantilly before,
and certainly we're looking forward to him breaking out, but
you're calling him out here as somebody to really look
at right now. What's your take on Adam Pantilly?
Speaker 3: Oh, man, Adam Fantilly so and I'm a bit biased.
I do have a couple of shares in Pantilly. He's
another former Team Canada World junior Darling, I'll call it.
He's spent biding his time in Columbus. With Jenner being
injured and then Marchenko went out, Fantilli got the chance
to have a sustained opportunity in line one power play one,
and he's responded. Since the injuries. He's up half a
point a game, which gets them in the land of
point per game, which is where we hope he would
get to. I'm excited about what some unfortunate that he
had to get the opportunity at someone else's peril. But
I'm excited about this because I hope he he maintains
that deployment, because I think he's shown now that he
can handle it. And Columbus is an interesting team and
I watched them closely. They've got a lot of young talent.
Then Mattichuk scored last night. He's going to be He's
going to be a stud on d Zacharnsky is having
in my mind, a Noris caliber year, and I think,
if I'm not mistaken, was he voted to four Nations MVP?
I don't remember, Maybe it was McKinnon, but oh Morensky
had a great four Nations tournament.
Speaker 2: Okay, and maybe mckinwood just the leading score in any event. Yeah,
that's awesome, Yeah, Fantilly. You love it when you see
these guys start to break out, And certainly Columbus is
just a whole lot better than anybody could have reasonably
expected them to be this year. The other guy or
the next guy to talk about Marco Casper in Detroit
and from your mouth the God's ear, because I got
him in at least one of my leagues where I
was hoping he would be able to produce something for me.
But what are your thoughts here? I know recently I
think we were skeptical about Casper and this show.
Speaker 3: I think your skepticism is somewhat warranted, if memory serves
me correct. Marco Casper was a bit of a reach
by Detroit when he was drafted, but he's when I
went back and looked at his stats, it's interesting because
he's never really maintained a point per game pace at
any level. But also he was playing in the SHL
at a very young age, so I think he had
one year where he played a reasonable amount of games
in the J twenty. What's point per game there? But
outside of that, if you look at his stats, he's
never really been a point per game, but he's always
seemed to play an age level up or two ages up,
so that that might be what we're seeing Marco Casper. I,
in my head, my mind was always his ceiling was
always a third line center, power play, penalty kill. Maybe
give you a fifty to sixty point stops. That's not
an incredibly high see it's not nothing. But since he's
been elevated to play with Dylan Larkin. He's seen an
uptick a half a point per game. Is this where
his new standard is? It's a small sample size, all
things being equal, his time on ice is up four
or five minutes a game. It remains to be seen.
But maybe this is where he lands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be very cool. Are there really stretches
with Steve Eiserman's draft picks anymore? Who can say, let's
move down to Dallas and two of the big young
names on that team who are making their moves, making
their jumps. Why Johnston Jason Robertson, Why it is on
the way up. Robertson seems to be bouncing back from
just a rough first half score wise. And what about
Logan steak Obenan? Why aren't we talking more about Logan Steakhoben?
Tell me Tim, tell me about these young Dallas forwards.
Speaker 3: Jim nil is a master, isn't he. He's had a
perfect I feel like it's the perfect succession plan in Dallas,
guys like Joe Pavluski retiring and then he's got these
young kids ready to step in. Wyatt Johnson had a
slow start before Christmas, seemed to kind of pick it
up the guy is a talented guy. He's wearing the
A in Dallas for I believe he's twenty one, So
he's a young guy assuming a leadership role in that team.
And that team is deep from line one to four,
defense one to defense six. Jason Robertson, same kind of deal.
Maybe a bit of a slow start by his standard.
I'm starting to wonder about Jason Robertson and if that
one hundred point season was his kind of anomaly and
he's going to settle into more of an eighty eighty
five point guy, seventy five to eighty five type thing.
But he's starting to rediscover his touch this year, which
is good for Dallas considering we're seasons. What's the season
is about three quarters away done? Maybe maybe not quite,
but they're picking it up at the right time. Logan
Stankovin If you think about Logan Stankoven's year last year,
he bounced up and down between the farm team and
Dallas and then settled into a role in the second
half the year. If you look at his stats just
from a point per game last year to this year,
it almost looks like he took it. He's taken a
small step back I think that's pretty normal when he
have a young player on the development curve. I don't
get to see Dallas a Ton, but is Logan Stankoven
again another Team Canada World junior sweetheart? In my books,
that guy plays with heart. I actually see him his
ceiling as close to a point per game passed in
the mold of Brad Marshall, maybe without the licking, but
I think that he has that type of game in him.
He's all heart and he has been since his junior years.
His shooting percentage the one stat that really stood out
to me. A shooting percentage is way down this year,
but his time and iice is up. So sometimes those
that's just bad luck. But he seems to be a
guy who's still kind of learning how to be a pro.
To Peter de Bower's credit, he keeps putting him out there.
It keeps making sure that Logan stank Covin has a
role within the team. I often think about young players
in that first kind of one to three years in
their development, and I always think about Nathan McKinnon kind
of had a decent rookie year and then he struggled
to find it for a couple of years and that
will always be my biggest regret. I remember trading in
one league, trading Nathan McKinnon after year three. I couldn't
tell you what I got for it way back then,
but then the very next year he went off. So
sometimes having a little patience with some of these young
players that you can be rewarded, And I think that
might be Logan Stankovin's case. He used to be the
prime years for a player was somewhere in the twenty
six twenty seven year range, so they would put in seven, eight,
nine years before you really saw their ceiling come out.
But with the way play are conditioned these days and
the training that they get at such a young age,
it's more and more it's becoming a young person's game
and you're seeing these breakouts happen a little bit earlier.
But there are still there's still a good number of
players that need that time before they before they really
discover their ceilings in the in the world's best league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, it does take some time, and yeah,
we'll see if we just need to be happy with
the stank Oven we have or believe in the stank
Oven to come. And let's talk about some guys who
are going to have some impact from trade injury type things.
You talked about the Columbus injuries that have freed up
Fantilly and van Reesmike for us. What about additionally from there,
are there are other things that we could see coming
out of the whole Columbus situation, some untapped fantasy value.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, I think I think they have players.
They still got Caden Lindstrom down there. He hasn't played
yet this year, top five pick. That's a talent. I
have him in a categories league. I'm excited. Hopefully he
recovers and but his injuries are just a blip in
his time in a categories league. There's a guy that
could be a real beast for you. I think with
some of the injuries, with just opportunity, some of those
young players in Columbus, they could be a force in
a year or two. The one that I'm interested in
watching as well is Luku. I'm gonna get this name wrong,
Luca bell Del Bellows.
Speaker 1: Are you telling me there's not one condo available in
all of Del Boca Vista.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a guy. He was drafted, I believe in
the second round and just has some of the things
where I'm looking at prospects, I'm really and I use
the ranking app quite frequently. I do find the pnhl
E model useful, and sometimes when I'm looking at prospects,
I'm really just looking for that pnhl E to increase
incrementally each year. And he's a player with that type
of curve, and he just seems to He puts in
a bit of time at each new level and eventually
he becomes successful. And he's a guy who just seems
to produce no matter what the level is. So I'm
watching him as a bit of a lower drafted person
to see where he might land. I definitely have a
couple of stocks in Luca, that's for.
Speaker 2: Sure, tremendous and of course the great We talked about
this trade a couple of weeks ago, the Farrabee Frost
going from Philly to Calgary for Kuzmenko and Pelota coming back.
What do you make of the impact of that as
you've been looking at this for Fantasy Dynasty.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I've been back and forth on this trade.
I know the initial reaction from the public was Calgary
had won the trade. I do have a couple of
stalks of Frost and Ferraby, I gotta be honest, I'm
underwhelmed by them. So I actually think this trade might
be a little bit closer than what people initially thought.
I think the wild card in this trade really is
Andre Kuzmenko. When I look at Kuzmenko's stats, Kuzmenko's had
two periods in his NHL career where he's been close
to the point per game. The first one came I
believe it was in twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.
That was the year Vancouver had that great breakout Elias
Petterson had his one hundred point season. The stat that
sticks out to me for Kuzmenko is shooting percentage. So
in those two periods of time where he was successful,
the other period being when he had believe he was
first trade at Calgary his first thirty games, his shooting
percentage was close to thirty percent in both those For
both those periods, he doesn't actually shoot a lot for
a score. It'll be interesting to see how that works out.
So far, he's got two points in two games for
the Flyers. Maybe playing with Mitchkoff, there might be some
chemistry there that allows him to maintain that a little
bit more consistently. Frost, I think he honestly, I think
we may have seen his ceiling and this is what
he is, and and for me that he'd be a
solid third line center on a good team. Same thing
with Ferrabie. So that kind of gets me to what
is Peltier. Peltier had a little bit of trouble breaking
into the league with Calgary, had some time up and
down between the AHL and the NHL. I think he
is the person that could tip this trade in either directions.
I see Peltier maybe as a good third liner, someone
who could probably play PK one power play two. He
does have some talent. He works hard, very enthusiastic, So
if he can achieve a bit of a ceiling that
maybe has him slot in into line too, he might
be actually the player that kind of tips this trade
in Philadelphia's favor.
Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, All right, We've got more to come with Tim,
but we're going to take a brief break, come back
and talk some more back with Tim Comish of our
Tidy Leagues co Commish, and we're getting some of Tim's
takes on some of the things that have been happening here.
Most recently to help you make your decisions for the
stretch run in the Dynasty season. And Tim, you've had
a chance now to give a take on a couple
of the trades. We've talked about them in the past,
but you've got some great new insights on them too,
And of course the big one. If we're talk trades,
we got to talk about that big old cal Colorado
Carolina trade. You've already talked about Martin Nachas moving on,
but Randon Hall for N's Drury, tell us what in
terms of Dynasty impacts.
Speaker 3: Here, this is such a polarizing trade. First of all,
it came out of the blue or seem too. But
then you had a bit of a back and forth
between Brian McFarland and Miko Rannon where McFarland said, we're
not going to to be able to sign him for
the money that that Miko wants, and then Renton's parties
came back out and said, no, we were open to negotiating.
But this trade, really it was a Friday night, is
one of those kind of trades that was got everyone's attention,
and it's a big and Miko rant and what are
you gonna say about that guy. It will be interesting
how Carolina treats this going into the trade deadline, if
they sensed that they can't sign Miko Rent and could
he be flipped to another team at the deadline. It's
if I'm Carolina, I gave up a big piece of
Martin Kash so they could maybe you got to recoup
something rather than let Miko Rehanton and go for free,
couldn't you.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, that's been the
big question. Some will say he's the Hurricanes will spend
the money on a guy like this in the postseason.
They will pay for the elite guys, but they just
are very careful about who they overpaid for. But yeah,
to trade for him and then to lose him, then again,
what did they do with Jake Kensel last year? But
Jake Ensel's not at the level of Miko rant And sorry,
sorry Jake. You were great American in that tournament. You
did your best, but you're not quite at the level
of Miko. And yeah, the next question I had to
ask you about Tim while you're on here, man, you're
you've been following Vancouver and I know you've got some
takes to get off on this thing, the old controversy
there with the Knucks this year. What do you make
of all that?
Speaker 3: This is a spicy one, it's a JT. Miller trade
to the Rangers, that tough one. You've got an older player,
an intense player. Will never know, maybe until someone retires
and writes a book, but we'll never know what the
real story was going on in the last couple of
years in the dressing room. I tend to think if,
given how intense JT. Miller is, I tend to think
it's a case of he was trying to maybe encourage
Lis Petterson to match a little bit of a higher
intensity level, and maybe that fed into what was going
on between the two of them. It's hard to think
that went on for so long. But again, we'll never
really know. So the question really begs in my mind.
Did Vancouver trade the right guy? Should they have moved
on from Alias Petterson? Or is it JT. Miller the
right call? If I look at JT. Miller's career, he's
had more sustained success over the years. Took him a
bit before he hit his ceiling when he came from
I believe he came from the Rangers to Vancouver the
first time, and in Vancouver's really where he cut his teeth.
If you're in a categories league, JT. Miller is routinely
a top five player to have in those types of leagues.
He gives you more category coverage. He's trieligible. That's always
a bonus to have guys that can play all positions.
But I do question whether Vancouver did trade the right
guy because JT. Miller competes how we really he is
in a dressing room. I don't know, but for my money,
I'm leaning towards I might have kept JT. Miller if
I wanted to, if I wanted to continue to push
in the playoffs. Immediate era for the current future, Elias Petterson.
He's young. He's five years younger than than JT. Miller.
He's in his mid twenties. There's no reason that he
can't bounce back. I do wonder if he needs to
change his scenery in order to remove himself from that situation.
If he's not, I'm going to say this, if he's
not as mentally tough as some of the other players.
A Canadian market with a big contract is a tough
place to play. It is interesting that the kind of
the fall from grace for Elias Petterson really did happen
right after he signed the extension. But he really is
this year's he's had his lowest point per game of
his entire career. There's no reason to think he can't
get back. Maybe it's just a matter of this season
needs to end, go home for the summer, reset, reach out, actually,
then come back with a new mindset next year. Here's
the hoping that happens. Because I like to see our
Canadian teams succeed, except for maybe Ottawa.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, wait a minute, that I think
you've outed yourself. I'm not sure you're a real Canadian
team saying you want the other Canadian teams to succeed.
That's I don't know. I think we've outed you, but
I know, I totally I get it. I get ith. Yeah,
so we'll see about that. It's certainly gonna be plenty
of opportunity for people to second guess the team's decisions
for years and years, but nothing else. Yeah, Miller is
a little bit older. I always worry about the guys
with their physical games in their mid thirties. If you
had JT on a team, is your your trigger finger
getting itchy to trade him in dynasty on your own teams.
Speaker 3: One thing about fantasy, even dynasties, is I find that
sometimes the older guys, their value decreases a lot quicker,
but they still like JT. Miller is still only thirty one.
I think he still got three or four very productive
years ahead of them, And in fantasy circles, three to
four years is a long time. I'd be open to
a trade like that, I've it would have to it
would have to be one that kind of knocks my
socks off, because I do think he's still got tremendous value.
I did see in one of my leagues someone posted
they had they had received a trade offer that included
Tage Thompson for JT. Miller. And that was an interesting
kind of scenario to think about, because here's Tage Chompson
had that great year a couple of years ago. He
still produces, he still produces close to a point per game,
He's a couple of years younger. An interesting scenario. If
you were looking for a push for the this year's playoffs,
which way would you go? I still like JT. Miller's
upside for another couple of years.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I think I'd take Tate Thompson there, and
I know he only had the one year and Buffalo
continues to trip over their own laces. But in Dina
the Man, I'd have a hard time turning away from him.
But flipping to the Elias side of the equation, how
high do you see him in like centermon rankings in Dynasty?
How high would you be willing to take him among
Dynasty fantasy centers?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Elias Petterson. I'm cynical where he's concerned. I
don't know if a hundred points is that that will
be repeated. I do think he has the opportunity to
get there, but I tend to look at him as
more of a kind of a point per game guy
seventy five to eighty five points. Given the year it's
I still consider him probably a top top twenty centerment
in the league when he's when he's performing. It's interesting
the thirty two thoughts. Elliott Freeman mentioned the other day
that they thought there might be an injury related hampering
Elias Petterson, but apparently that was rebuked by the Peterson
camp very quickly. Who knows again, if I wouldn't buy
might be a by low candidate right now, and given
the circumstances, I might definitely be inclined to pull the
trigger on something like that because he is a talented guy,
but he's such a small guy, and the game keeps
getting faster. I just wonder if physically he can do
what it takes to maintain one hundred point pace consistently.
Speaker 2: It's a good point, all right, Tim. The NHL trade
deadline is a mere couple of weeks away. Give me
a trade you'd like to see in the NHL, maybe
one that would It's not a complete ripoff. It's not
Connor McDavid to the maple Leafs for you know, the
rights to John Klingberg, and he's already with the letter
I don't know whatever you know for already giving them Klingberg.
Maybe we'll just do that. Give me a trade this.
Maybe some of them are realistic. You think would help
the teams, you think would be good for Dynasty. It
doesn't have to be that cap compliant. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna run the calculators on here, but give
me an idea here.
Speaker 3: Oh man, this was a fun question. When you post
it to me and before I even hey, I start
talking about it. I want to put my disclaimer in
that because I guess Frank Sarah Valley posted a tweet
yesterday proposing something along these lines. So I'm merely in
our discord chat went to Jesse and said, you are
my witness that I proposed this before Sarah Valley did.
Speaker 2: Can't confirm people can't confirm what you were about to
hear with pre Servalley, Tim.
Speaker 3: Takes given the spirit of the Four Nations, what a
great tournament to watch. We have been starved for best
on best for so long. Although it was a bit
of a I thought a gimmicky tournament going into it,
I didn't miss a game. It was so fun to watch.
But why wouldn't we ride the coattails and somehow get
Matthew to Chuck and Brady to Chuck on the same
team just so we can watch that chaos every game.
So my trade, and you think it couldn't happen, could it?
But my trade is between the Ottawa Senators and the
Florida Panthers. The proposal I have is Sam Reinhart and
Anton Lendell to Ottawa for Brady to Chuck and Shane Pinto.
I think Lendell is starting to I wouldn't want to
call his season up breakout, but he's really solidified himself.
Does he have that second line center upside? I think
Ottawa has that spot, you know that where they could
use some support when Josh Norris seems to get injured
quite a bit. So he could be a good fit there.
Sam Reinhart, I thought that he had a bit of
a coming out is in the Four Nations playing with
the players he was playing. He's a smart hockey player,
so to put him alongside someone like Castutzel Batherson, he
could be a great piece. He's been around now, so
he's won a Stanley Cup. He might be a piece
that Ottawa might see some value in. And then you
have Brady to Chuck, who is all categories monster. He's
one of the most intense captains in the Put him
with his brother. That would be such a fun such
a fun thing to watch, and the media clips that
would come out of Miami would be something That's what
I'd like to see.
Speaker 2: Now, let me just propose an alternative. What if we
traded What if we traded Tim Stutzlaw and let's see,
I'm trying to come up with somebody else here, Carter
Yakamchuk for Matthew Kuchuk, and we put them both on
the Ottawa Senators.
Speaker 3: Tim, I'm a Leaf fan. I don't want to see
that out.
Speaker 2: You could face both Kachucks. How many times a year?
Right now? You have to face them both. That doubles
the number of games. This would have the number of
games that Toronto would have to play against the Kachuk.
Speaker 3: And then you'd have the Canadian media covering hockey, so
all those folks wouldn't go to waste.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. All right, that's a
good yeah, and I agree with you. I think this
is Yeah. This is the first time that we've recorded
since our first broadcast since the Four Nations. Congratulate Canada.
You earned it. Connor McDavid is the best. But yeah,
it was a lot of fun and I was frequently
saying on the show, I really didn't want to have
this long of a break because I care about the
fantasy hockey. But I do have to hand it to
him for putting together something that is just it's completely
taken over the sports discourse in the past few weeks
in America, which is impossible for hockey to do. Even
during the Stanley Cup Finals, it doesn't feel like it
took it takes over the sports discourse the way that
it did for this one. And yeah, people are talking
about it. Kudos to the NHL and the players and
everybody else who made this happen. All right, And now, Tim,
I'm gonna give you a fun one because I remember
we had you on you you took over a tidy
team last year in the top division and you went
to town on that sucker, and we had you on
to talk through the process of that and what you
had to do. So I kind of I want to
get your takes because I know you're a man who
was not afraid to trade in overall. What are some
what's the favorite Fantasy Dynasty Hockey trade you've made this year?
So in any league and anything you want, Yeah, tell
us about a good one. Anyway. So'spin as a yarn, Tim.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting, right. So I joined the Categories League
with Victor oh Boy a couple of months ago, and
I took over this team and what I really noticed
on the roster is it had a lot of good
young talents. It is a competing team, but a lot
of the talent is scoring talent, so as in the
categories league, you want a diverse portfolio of players that
kind of cover categories. It was a trade that probably
wasn't everyone's favorite, But I also think that when you're
in a categories league, sometimes the names on what you
would traditionally see as a high level player, the name's
change in the categories league. See if I can bring
up the trade it was right here, so I gave up.
The primary pieces I gave up were Clayton Keller, mattve Mitchkoff,
Emma Lander, Brandon Montour, and Bobby Brink. And the players
I got back were Nick Dowd, Mackenzie Wiger, Prospect Clark Caswell,
Frank Fatrano, and Jamie Benn. On the surface, when Goff
is a sublime talent, hopefully he's gonna hit a ceiling
of greater than one hundred points. He's gonna shoot all
sorts of shots. He's gonna cover your power play points.
I did need to move some caps in this trade.
I don't think it was that well received amongst the
league mates. I think when you see the names, it
feels very tilted, but again dealing from a position of strength,
knowing that I had to move some salary. And I
think guys like Mackenzie Wiger is a multi category stud
I think a guy like Frank Fittrano is very underestimated.
The guy may not be scoring the way he did
a couple of years ago, but he still covers shots, hits.
He does give me that cover, that coverage and categories.
Jamie Ben's another one like that. He seems to with
Tyler Sagan being out, he seems to be having another
great year at thirty five years old. So that trade,
although when you look at the names at face value,
seems very tilted, when you understand the objectives of both teams,
I thought it made sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I in a vacuum, somebody's going to hear those
names and say, WHOA, that is not great, But I'll
give it to you. Frank Vitronto I recently trade. I
actually traded Victor for him in our four sport league
in One of the things that attracts me about to
Toronto is not only has he had amazing stats, but
he is on a sneaky good contract going forward. Yeah,
he's only been getting three point six millions whole years
and now he's got three more year extension that just
started a four point five to seven mil, which is
bad for a hockey salary that produces a lot of
points for you and Jamie Benz in the last year
of that monster contract of his. So yeah, I can
see that. Boy, that's a rough one. But that's you
are great at analyzing what stats you're trying to get here,
And that's the h It's not who people think win
because of the twelve team league that they've been playing
with their buddies or a ten team league they've been
playing with their buddies for years. It's the team that
does the math and figures out who is actually going
to help me win in this league. That usually comes
out in a head, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm a firm believer, and I mean I
probably repeating myself a bit, but I'm a firm believer
that you want trades to be a win. So I
have no problems paying the piper. I mean, I look
at him, Mitchkoff. Yeah that when we look back, he
will hopefully be the best player in that trade. But
he's I believe he's still gonna gonna he's gonna have
the tort school of tough love for a year or two.
I think, yeah, that's what you do. You got your
win now pieces, and you may be giving up the
best player long term. But that's really not what I
was kind of looking for. Plus the team I'm talking about,
I still got some young guys like Dylan Holloway Lane Hudson,
So it's not like there isn't succession plans already baked
into my team. So again it's dealing from a position
of strength to hopefully solidify a good long playoff run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, any other So it's
sounds like it's not been huge trade season over and
tidy this year.
Speaker 3: No, it's interesting, right because I've had the pleasure of
being part of three divisions. I started in Gretzky and then,
as you mentioned, I moved up to Stanley just I
think just before Christmas last year to cover another manager,
and then this year within the Lemieux Division. So it's
been interesting. When you compare all three, I find the
Lemieux Division is a little bit more conservative. The teams
that are lower in the standings, they are protective of
some of their their better players. Because they are very
cognizant of relegation, so that and I understand that one.
So it's been a bit of a different kind of
trading vibe. I thinking Lemieux in Gretzky. My experience was
you could load a package of prospects and young NHL
players and really move some big names. And then my
time in Stanley there was such a blur and it
was like a I think back to that time sometimes
and I wonder sometimes if I overthought some of the trading.
But yeah, that became a whirlwind. But that was actually
a very unique experience because you had to win the
relegation round in order to avoid being relegated, which is
unique to Lord Stanley. There was no stone unturned in
trying to make that happen. And my buddy Tom tron
two years in a row, so he's housted me from
the tidy playoffs. He won't get that chance this year,
but I'm looking to maybe I could sneak my way
into that Stanley division for next year and make it
right with Tom Trump.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. It's out for revenge,
all right. Tim. This has been a lot of fun.
You are an incredibly smart manager. There's a reason why
you've you stepped up to that Stanley, because my goodness,
you've thrived in the divisions you've been a part of
and done a great job keeping the train on the rails.
Any I don't know, Tim, anything you want to promote
is a part of this. Should people just leave you
nice notes and send you fruitcakes? Or what should people do?
Speaker 3: So I tell you this, I've never commissioned a league
before this year, so what better than to be a
rookie commissioner in a six sixth division? Six division, Yeah,
sixth division monster called the tidy Tiered Dynasty. So I've
had a lot of fun with that league. We take
a look every week, can do a bit of an
update every week. I hope people are having fun with
some of those updates. I do try to change it
up and spice it up a bit. But for those
of you who are curious even remotely about the Tidy
Tier Dynasty, get in the FHL discord and ask questions.
We are always looking for new managers. Playoffs start tomorrow.
Actually today is the last day of our regular season.
Our trade deadline actually is today, but this season the
off season will soon be upon us. We're looking for managers.
Even if it's to be on the waiting list. I
guarantee you there will be some turnover in the off season,
so you won't probably have to wait long. But we
definitely encourage people. It's a fun dynasty. It's a challenge.
There's four tiers all and everyone plays for something, which
is in my mind, it's a really cool feature on
this league. Like I said, if you're remotely interested, ask questions.
We can get you on a wait list, and we're
looking for great people to make any a great league.
Speaker 2: Been great, Yeah, absolutely, and you are a huge part
of it. Thanks for being there, and thanks for being
on the show today.
Speaker 3: Tim awesome, Thanks for having me. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Be right back after this for another time. Before we
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