Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Samantha Fay,
Speaker 1: and joining me today is a very very special guest.
Speaker 1: It's my youngest daughter, Chloe Say. Hi, Hi everyone. I'm
Speaker 1: very happy to be here. I'm so excited to dive
Speaker 1: into our talk today. Chloe wanted to come on the show,
Speaker 1: or really I asked her to come on the show
Speaker 1: so we could talk about what it's like growing up psychic,
Speaker 1: and what it is like to have a weird woo
Speaker 1: boo mom, and how to really embrace your own interior intuitiveness.
Speaker 1: So before I really start interviewing you, Chloe, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to start off and tell everyone to remind everyone
Speaker 1: because I think I've mentioned this on the show a
Speaker 1: couple of times. So about a year and a half
Speaker 1: before Chloe was born is when I found that crystal
Speaker 1: on my desk, and it's when I really really got
Speaker 1: into reiki. It's when I met dev and started learning
Speaker 1: the Toureau. But I never ever thought of myself as
Speaker 1: a future medium or someone doing psychic readings. I was
Speaker 1: just following my bliss and exploring this whole new world
Speaker 1: that was opening up for me. And I remember when
Speaker 1: I was getting my Reiki two. One of the students
Speaker 1: in the class with me was pregnant, and I remember thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish I was pregnant when I got my reiki
Speaker 1: one and two, because what a beautiful thing to be
Speaker 1: able to pass on to your child. Well, lo and behold,
Speaker 1: I got pregnant with little Chloe, and I decided to
Speaker 1: go on and get my reiki master's degree. And I
Speaker 1: was just so happy that I got to experience those
Speaker 1: attudmins while little Chloe was growing in my belly. And
Speaker 1: a few months after that, I went to see an
Speaker 1: intuitive who was really highly regarded, and she gave me
Speaker 1: a really great reading, and one of the things she
Speaker 1: said I never forgot. She said, you have been called
Speaker 1: to this path not for you, but for the child
Speaker 1: inside of you, because she is meant to do what
Speaker 1: you're going to do, but even more, even on a
Speaker 1: bigger scale, in a grander way, whatever that means. And
Speaker 1: it was shortly after that that I really opened up
Speaker 1: to my mediumship. And I always wondered, is it connected?
Speaker 1: And so I kind of just watched as you grew up,
Speaker 1: and you had so many psychic experiences as a little
Speaker 1: little girl, and they've only continued, right, are you comfortable
Speaker 1: saying that? Okay, one of the things that I've told
Speaker 1: on the show before. And you can see the painting
Speaker 1: right there, Chloe. Okay, So a client made me this
Speaker 1: beautiful painting that's hanging in my office of mother Mary.
Speaker 1: I did a reading for her one night from home.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what time zone she was in, but
Speaker 1: I had to do it pretty late at night, around
Speaker 1: nine thirty or ten, if memory serves, and a relative
Speaker 1: of hers came through who had been, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit like my grandmother in life, like not a
Speaker 1: mean person, but just a little bit of a negative bent,
Speaker 1: and she wanted to explain to my client the hardship
Speaker 1: she'd gone through in her life, to point out, you know,
Speaker 1: why she was the way she was. And it turned
Speaker 1: out to be a really healing reading, not only for
Speaker 1: my client but also for her relative on the other side.
Speaker 1: And I remember that the relative had a very very strange,
Speaker 1: like a hard to pronounce last name, but her first name,
Speaker 1: I'll just say is Mary. So anyway, finish up the reading,
Speaker 1: get ready for bed, brush my teeth, put on my pj's,
Speaker 1: climb into bed, and little Chloe you were three years old,
Speaker 1: three and a half. You come bitter padding into my
Speaker 1: room and you said you weren't scared. You just said, Mommy,
Speaker 1: there's a woman pacing in front of my bedroom door.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what to do. And so I
Speaker 1: tried not to be all fearful, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's a ghost in the house. I tried to be
Speaker 1: a good mom, and I just said, okay, Chloe, hold
Speaker 1: my hand and close your eyes and just try to
Speaker 1: ask her what her name is. And I remember you
Speaker 1: just squeezed your eyes shut, really really tight, and you
Speaker 1: said Mary. And I was like, holy shit. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: close your eyes again, and ask her for her last name,
Speaker 1: and you said, I don't want to say it, you know,
Speaker 1: for ethics and confidentiality. But it was like a three syllable,
Speaker 1: hard to pronounce last name, and you said it, and
Speaker 1: my mind was blown. And I'm still trying to be
Speaker 1: like super calm, like okay, that's great, Chloe, And I said,
Speaker 1: close your eyes again and ask her if she has
Speaker 1: a message, and so you squeeze your eyes shut and
Speaker 1: you said, she said, thank you, mom, and that was it.
Speaker 1: She went away, and I thought that was just such
Speaker 1: an amazing moment because here I am, I was upstairs
Speaker 1: in my little office doing this reading late at night,
Speaker 1: and that woman was actually in our home and she
Speaker 1: wasn't a ghost, and she wasn't mean, and she wasn't scary.
Speaker 1: She just wanted to say thank you, like thank you
Speaker 1: for letting me get this message through to my granddaughter
Speaker 1: that helped her heal, but also helped me heal. And
Speaker 1: I hope that it taught you that there's really nothing
Speaker 1: scary about seeing this stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, you call yourself my woo woo mom, and
Speaker 2: if that's what you are, I love my woo woo mom.
Speaker 2: Because you've never presented it as something that needs to
Speaker 2: be scary or intimidating. I always saw you kind of
Speaker 2: having like a superpower that I just wanted to also have.
Speaker 2: It wasn't for something that I was like, this is creepy,
Speaker 2: this is scary. I just thought it was very cool.
Speaker 1: You did okay. But there were some moments like when
Speaker 1: friends asked you what I did for a living that
Speaker 1: was more for you true.
Speaker 2: And also going to a Catholic school, which was difficult
Speaker 2: because you don't know what people would think, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't like a way she.
Speaker 1: Does is scary. It was just different different. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also once I did tell people, they would be like, well, perfect,
Speaker 2: let's go get her free reading.
Speaker 1: So it was multiple that's true, Okay, good for all right.
Speaker 1: So then flash forward to when you were four and
Speaker 1: you had a lot of psychic experiences then, and they
Speaker 1: just kept going, what's the first one that really stands
Speaker 1: out to you?
Speaker 2: I remember, like in church, like in second grade, I
Speaker 2: would see like some things I had, like scary ones.
Speaker 2: A lot of it was like like more scary ones
Speaker 2: growing up that you would help me, like not focus
Speaker 2: on those ones and focus on the positive ones. Yes,
Speaker 2: seeing ancestors, and really I was opposed to like what
Speaker 2: we don't want to see.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't want to talk about the scary
Speaker 1: ones because I feel like that brings it back in.
Speaker 1: But you did have one very scary thing that kept
Speaker 1: visiting you, and I remember telling you you have to
Speaker 1: tell him to leave, and you said, no, no, he
Speaker 1: won't like that, and I said, but it's your energy
Speaker 1: and you have to take control of it. And you did.
Speaker 1: You called on Arkiangel Michael and your light, and we
Speaker 1: never had an encounter with that thing again, now your dad.
Speaker 1: After he retired from the police force and focused on
Speaker 1: his healing and recovery, he eventually was able to find
Speaker 1: work as a private investigator and he would ask me
Speaker 1: to help on a lot of cases, and that was
Speaker 1: really fun, and that was very illuminating for me, and
Speaker 1: it helped me realize different ranges and different ways that
Speaker 1: you can help with this intuitive work. But there was
Speaker 1: this one day where he came home and there was
Speaker 1: a missing girl, a teenager. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was just busy or tired, but every time I
Speaker 1: tried to tune in, I really wasn't getting much. And
Speaker 1: he was getting frustrated because you know, obviously the parents
Speaker 1: were freaking out, and he was like, try again, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying cooked dinner with full laundry.
Speaker 1: So I went up to you and Olivia and I said,
Speaker 1: can you guys tune in? I asked all three of you,
Speaker 1: Corry didn't, Why did Tori want to?
Speaker 2: You came up to all of us and it was
Speaker 2: I think we were all about to go to sleep,
Speaker 2: and I remember seeing Tori. She was almost going to
Speaker 2: burk out to a full panic about doing that. I
Speaker 2: don't know why, that's just kind of how she is.
Speaker 2: But me and Olivia were okay with it, and so
Speaker 2: we sat down with you, and we didn't know what
Speaker 2: to do. So you like talked to us how to
Speaker 2: do it. And I think you started us off basically
Speaker 2: going root chakra to crown and chakra, opening them all
Speaker 2: up and basically just closing our eyes and thinking and
Speaker 2: whatever comes to your mind. Be confident in that and
Speaker 2: just say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I taught you how to ground and open your
Speaker 1: chakras and spin your chakras. I think I walked you
Speaker 1: into like my version of a crystal cave and asked
Speaker 1: you to look at like a movie screen and focus
Speaker 1: on the girl's name. And it was so interesting because
Speaker 1: you got amazingly helpful, and Olivia did too. But tell
Speaker 1: us about your experience. I wish it was more interesting
Speaker 1: than what I can remember, but it was really things
Speaker 1: that just popped into my mind. I remember you would
Speaker 1: tell us to do, like just don't let anything come
Speaker 1: in your mind, like focus on like certain categories like place,
Speaker 1: name or location like stuff like that. And so I
Speaker 1: was really determined.
Speaker 2: To get a name, and not that we even knew
Speaker 2: that she could be with anyone, but I got the
Speaker 2: name Matt, and so I assumed she was with somebody
Speaker 2: named Matt. And then I got a location, a beach
Speaker 2: that was twenty minutes away from us. And then Olivia
Speaker 2: got the name of a hotel. Yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: And so he narrowed it down and she ended up
Speaker 2: being with a much older man named Matt and a
Speaker 2: hotel and that said in that beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the parents had never even heard of that
Speaker 1: older man she was hanging out with, which was just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel? Very cool? Man?
Speaker 2: I feel like my wi will mo. I really liked it.
Speaker 2: It was a little it's scary, like I do this,
Speaker 2: and you kind of doubt yourself the whole thing because
Speaker 2: you can never separate just things popping in your mind
Speaker 2: from like the actual occurrence that it could be something
Speaker 2: that is true. So it was definitely strange, but it
Speaker 2: was exhilarating too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really really cool. So one of my.
Speaker 2: Memories would be going to school in each almost each
Speaker 2: school day, before we would pull up into the line
Speaker 2: to be dropped off, my mom would have this pull
Speaker 2: from an oracle card deck, and so I would pull
Speaker 2: mine and I always ask my mom multiple things about me,
Speaker 2: like who's my guardian angel, who is my animal guide?
Speaker 2: All this stuff, but she doesn't want me to just
Speaker 2: tell me that, because that's something you have to find
Speaker 2: out for yourself by just kind of looking around and
Speaker 2: seeing who's out there for you. And I just always
Speaker 2: kind of guessed at the fact that mine would be
Speaker 2: an owl, and I pulled that card from the deck.
Speaker 2: That was just one of many instances. And then there
Speaker 2: was another time we were walking downtown for some reason.
Speaker 2: There was a man down there, the Animal rescue.
Speaker 1: Wrapped Rescue Society or something like that, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And we're walking around and I was like, Mom, does
Speaker 2: he have an owl? And he is just standing out
Speaker 2: there in public, asking for nothing but just for people
Speaker 2: to come up to him and pet the owl that
Speaker 2: he had on his arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like an educational thing. And the
Speaker 1: only animal he brought with him was this owl that
Speaker 1: they had just rescued, and I think he was they
Speaker 1: were getting ready to release it. And that just really
Speaker 1: stood out to me because it was just maybe three
Speaker 1: five days before that you had asked, you know, I
Speaker 1: think the owl is my animal guide, but I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: and then da dah, we see that. And then a
Speaker 1: couple of months later in the winter, we were at
Speaker 1: this Christmas light show and I remember we were standing
Speaker 1: underneath that archway where they have the fake snow, and
Speaker 1: we're all focused on the fake snow, and you nudged
Speaker 1: me and said, Mom, look up and over the archway
Speaker 1: that was producing this snow was an owl. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, Chloe, like that confirms it.
Speaker 1: You pulled the card, you saw it downtown, and then
Speaker 1: you saw it at the the Christmas light show.
Speaker 2: And I think that's very interesting because where we are
Speaker 2: isn't very I wouldn't call it a native spot for
Speaker 2: owls to be seen that commonly, and I saw them
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Now, I've never seen an owl here. I've heard them,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen them except those two times with you.
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh. Remember that time we were driving to
Speaker 1: school and we were picking up Tory's friend. It was
Speaker 1: the start of your fourth or fifth grade year, and
Speaker 1: you go, Mom, look and over the retention pond and
Speaker 1: her neighborhood was an eagle. That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's something I've always noticed about you, like you
Speaker 1: always have these really cool experiences happened to you. When
Speaker 1: we were hiking in the mountains. You found that piece
Speaker 1: of jet when we were just walking the beach one
Speaker 1: night it was Olivia's birthday weekend, and you found the
Speaker 1: megalodon shark tooth just right there. You just kind of
Speaker 1: were you just walk right to it. I just think
Speaker 1: that a part of being connected to the unseen world
Speaker 1: is having those magical experiences happen. Okay, So one thing
Speaker 1: I remember so much about you growing up is getting
Speaker 1: ready in the morning for school and you telling me
Speaker 1: about your horrifying dreams. There were often negative dreams that
Speaker 1: you had that came true, and I want you to
Speaker 1: tell about one of them. But the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: highlighting this is because I've seen this happen again and again.
Speaker 1: I saw it happen with me, I see it with you,
Speaker 1: I see it with you. Know students I've worked with
Speaker 1: often early on in your development, you will pick up
Speaker 1: on the negative stuff that's lingering around in the world.
Speaker 1: And I think that's just because negative energy is heavier
Speaker 1: and denser, so it is easier to pick up. Because
Speaker 1: we're heavy and dense. We're living in this three dimensional
Speaker 1: world but as we work to really lift and raise
Speaker 1: our vibrations, then we pick up the higher stuff. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, a young kid, you would have
Speaker 1: these intense dreams about world catastrophes that very often came true.
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell one you remember?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think during high school was just such
Speaker 2: a time where and you were teaching us about how
Speaker 2: we were all m paths too and like absorb what
Speaker 2: people are feeling around us. And I guess that was
Speaker 2: true because my years of high school honesty just very
Speaker 2: I feel like there was just negative energy everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you started during COVID. That was really hard.
Speaker 2: It was such a school three sixty from like happy,
Speaker 2: go lucky Catholic school for twelve years to public school,
Speaker 2: so I think that was definitely a switch too. But yeah,
Speaker 2: for two years my dreams were really really quite graphic
Speaker 2: and vivid, but I weirdly look forward to them to
Speaker 2: like wake up in the morning and torture my family
Speaker 2: and have them all dissect it with me. It was
Speaker 2: my favorite part. But one of my dreams that were
Speaker 2: super vivid. It started off I was in They always
Speaker 2: start pretty lucid, like I know, I know that I'm dreaming,
Speaker 2: and I know I'm supposed to be learning something from
Speaker 2: this dream. I always know, like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: This isn't just like a fun little dream. But I
Speaker 2: was in a high school that I didn't know, and
Speaker 2: I knew that this wasn't where I lived.
Speaker 1: It was kind of in the.
Speaker 2: Middle of nowhere a little bit, and the high school
Speaker 2: everyone was just walking around and then everyone started running rampant,
Speaker 2: running around everywhere, and I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 2: And I knew that it didn't affect me in the dream,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't running around or anything. But then I
Speaker 2: went out to the main area of the high school
Speaker 2: and it was the cafeteria lady, and she had pulled
Speaker 2: out a gun onto the all the students and that's
Speaker 2: why everyone was running. And immediately, once anything goes wrong
Speaker 2: in my dreams, that's scary. I wake up in like
Speaker 2: a sweat in the middle of the night and try
Speaker 2: to go back to sleep. But the next morning I
Speaker 2: told my mom all about it, and we basically chopped
Speaker 2: it up, choped it up.
Speaker 1: To being a strange dream.
Speaker 2: But then I think it was like three days later,
Speaker 2: we saw a news article and I think four hours
Speaker 2: away in a random town. That exact thing had happened
Speaker 2: with a cafeteria lady doing that.
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. And you still write your dreams down.
Speaker 2: I do because they're so vivid, and it'll I'll just
Speaker 2: ruminate on that dream for like two weeks if I don't.
Speaker 1: So. Yeah, well, and they're instructive because, like you said,
Speaker 1: you're observing as you're doing that. You had some pretty
Speaker 1: cool dreams about my dad, your grandfather, after he passed.
Speaker 1: Do you feel comfortable sharing some of those? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And to be honest, it really that one was the one.
Speaker 2: They made me the most happy because I think they
Speaker 2: were the most important to tell you things about your dad.
Speaker 2: But it did always confuse me because I would wonder,
Speaker 2: why is he coming to my dreams but not my mom?
Speaker 2: I thought that was very interesting. But the first one
Speaker 2: I ever had was really quickly after he passed, I
Speaker 2: think two weeks, and it was a very pretty dream.
Speaker 2: I was up in the clouds and I was in
Speaker 2: some sort of a plane just soaring over all the
Speaker 2: clouds with my guardian angel next to me, and I
Speaker 2: just knew it was a smartartan angel, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: describe her like put a name to her. And we
Speaker 2: were flying over and we saw all these people in clouds,
Speaker 2: laying asleep in the clouds, and we kept flying over
Speaker 2: and I saw my grandfather and the plane stopped, and
Speaker 2: so I jumped into his cloud and she pulled me
Speaker 2: back by my shirt and was like, you cannot go
Speaker 2: in there. Look, he's recharging. And he had a little
Speaker 2: light above his head and it was all the colors
Speaker 2: of the rainbow, back and forth and back and forth,
Speaker 2: changing color. And I assumed in the dream that that
Speaker 2: meant like a full recharge of your chakras and balancing yourself,
Speaker 2: because you've told me that that's a study. When you
Speaker 2: pass away with Alzheimer's, you're just not yourself. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you can't ground yourself or go back.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it takes a long time. Takes a long
Speaker 1: time them to assimilate to that perfect energy on the
Speaker 1: other side. So I thought that was such just a
Speaker 1: beautiful message and imagery that you got that you know,
Speaker 1: Papa was okay, and he was in this facility where
Speaker 1: he was being healed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that was the first one that I had, and
Speaker 2: the next one that I had was about a year later,
Speaker 2: and it was a month before my grandmother passed away.
Speaker 1: My mom, they know about it, you don't worry.
Speaker 2: At this time, we didn't really think she was no
Speaker 2: at all. I think it was a month I had
Speaker 2: this dream and then a month later she was on hospice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I had those.
Speaker 1: Dreams doing fine then, like we had it so fast.
Speaker 2: She's always had amazing vision, amazing hearing, like she's It
Speaker 2: was honestly quite shocking. But I had this dream and
Speaker 2: it started in my house and there was a knock
Speaker 2: at our door and opened the door and I was like, Papa,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here? And he was like, get
Speaker 2: in the car. We need to go and have a conversation.
Speaker 2: I was like okay. So we get in his car
Speaker 2: and we're driving around and he turns. I was sitting
Speaker 2: in the backseat and he was in the front and
Speaker 2: he turned around to me and he was like, we
Speaker 2: need to talk about your grandmother.
Speaker 1: And I was like, do we?
Speaker 2: And we started talking about her and he said, as
Speaker 2: much as it pains me, we need to help her.
Speaker 2: She's going to need help crossing over and I was
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean, how do you
Speaker 2: know this? And he was like I just know this.
Speaker 2: I can't remember a word for word what he said,
Speaker 2: but it was.
Speaker 1: Like, she needs our prayer, he kept saying.
Speaker 2: It was on his face how much an annoyed him
Speaker 2: to help her, and he made sure to convey to
Speaker 2: me that it was his duty. He said, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, I am her husband and I
Speaker 2: need to help her.
Speaker 1: Which is so my dad. He always felt.
Speaker 2: So he felt obligated to her, but he did not
Speaker 2: feel happy wanting to do it.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was He was probably like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe she's joining me this fact. Iod'd have like
Speaker 1: a little bit of time. That's what it was.
Speaker 2: He was so angry but so determined to help her,
Speaker 2: and so I was like, okay. And I remember waking
Speaker 2: up from that dream, first of all, not thinking that
Speaker 2: Gigi was going to be sick, and then second of all,
Speaker 2: wondering how I'm going to prompt this conversation to my mom,
Speaker 2: saying I think your mom is going to pass away soon.
Speaker 2: Then I think she's going you need to help doing
Speaker 2: that to get to where she needs to go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be the one that's so hard
Speaker 2: to bring up.
Speaker 1: So you did it really, really well.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: I remember I was standing in the kitchen and you
Speaker 1: came up and you told me, and you told me
Speaker 1: very gently, and then I probably I probably asked you
Speaker 1: a million questions after that, but I did tell my
Speaker 1: sisters and we were all like, okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be that fast, and it was,
Speaker 1: just like you said, less than a month later. And
Speaker 1: what I find so fascinating is when she was rushed
Speaker 1: to the er and the doctor saw how bad she
Speaker 1: was doing so quickly, they were like, we have to
Speaker 1: get hospice in here, and we were like what. And
Speaker 1: I remember the social worker came in and she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any beds in hospice. We did
Speaker 1: not want her in the hospital, you know, the hospice
Speaker 1: facility was so beautiful, and I just asked Dad, I'm like,
Speaker 1: please help mom. The social worker left and we waited.
Speaker 1: Courtney and I were waiting there for like over an
Speaker 1: hour with mom, and she came back in and she said,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that took long. I was with my
Speaker 1: other patient, mister Owen, and I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't remember that, yeah, yeah, and she said, goodness, a
Speaker 1: bed just opened up, and we can have her moved
Speaker 1: by this afternoon. In that while that's so, your dreams
Speaker 1: continue to be very very vivid.
Speaker 2: That's what I feel most confident in, I think as
Speaker 2: of now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's how I was too, And like I before,
Speaker 1: I would do readings, you know, I'd look at my
Speaker 1: calendar and I would get nervous, like, oh, I have
Speaker 1: this person and this person, and I would kind of
Speaker 1: think about their names as I fell asleep, and I
Speaker 1: would ask for any messages to come in the dreams
Speaker 1: for those clients. So often their people would come to
Speaker 1: me in their dreams, and that was very very helpful,
Speaker 1: because you're right, something about a dream it just feels
Speaker 1: it's not quote unquote made up. It's not our imagination.
Speaker 1: It's not us making this happen or making something fit.
Speaker 1: It's just it just is it just?
Speaker 2: And I think because of consciousness people know so little
Speaker 2: about dreams, people will believe it. I think the science
Speaker 2: behind it is so strange. I mean, when we fall asleep,
Speaker 2: where do we go? I think that's why it's so
Speaker 2: easy for people to connect with us easier that way.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like you jumped to a
Speaker 2: different plane when you dream or something like that, because
Speaker 2: it happened, at least for me. It happens too frequently
Speaker 2: for it to not. Yeah, and do you ever.
Speaker 1: Wake up like more tired than when you went to bed?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think the craziest one. I had the most
Speaker 2: insane dream, and I'll remember every detail of it forever.
Speaker 2: And I remember waking up and I had bruises all
Speaker 2: over me.
Speaker 1: And you were like, oh, oh, don't tell that.
Speaker 2: It freaked me out so much. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: my goodness, like you made me think.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, you must have been abducted by aliens
Speaker 1: and I was joking, but you I was like, Mom,
Speaker 1: you never guess the dream I just had. Okay, before
Speaker 1: we dive into your mediumship reading that you were able
Speaker 1: to do, I just want to share with everyone some
Speaker 1: things I have coming up. Starting at the end of June,
Speaker 1: Denise and I are teaching our Mediumship one oh one
Speaker 1: class on two Saturdays, and then in July I'm teaching
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Speaker 1: I so hope you'll join me. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: your working after school in high school. We won't say
Speaker 1: the name of the place so we can be confidential.
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell the story of how your
Speaker 1: first mediumship reading went? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I think I worked there for probably a year
Speaker 2: and then this happened. But I had a coworker, and
Speaker 2: I had never experienced someone talking about death so openly
Speaker 2: and freely. I think it was like almost every other
Speaker 2: shift he had mentioned the passing of his dad, and
Speaker 2: like how I think it just was a domino effect
Speaker 2: to his whole family, and so he talked about it
Speaker 2: every single day like everyone where I worked anew what
Speaker 2: happened to his dad?
Speaker 1: How much time had passed from when the dad crossed
Speaker 1: over to him talking about it so much. I think
Speaker 1: he passed away when he was eight. Oh wow, and
Speaker 1: he was I think twenty oh okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were just so tight. But yeah, he
Speaker 2: talks about it basically every single day. And I feel
Speaker 2: like that was kind of what did it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How can you not come through and someone's talking about
Speaker 2: you every single day like that? And I think there
Speaker 2: was a certain shift that I had worked. I think
Speaker 2: I heard like somebody say, like, tell him that I
Speaker 2: love him, and I was like, that's just me being delusional,
Speaker 2: like whatever. But I went home when I told you that,
Speaker 2: and You're like, Chloe, that's not you mean delusional, Like
Speaker 2: that's something you need to dig deeper at. And so
Speaker 2: we did, and I can't even remember. I think it
Speaker 2: was kind of the same process we did, the grounding
Speaker 2: and then the opening your chakras, and it was kind
Speaker 2: of just like a flood of information. I kind of
Speaker 2: I got so much. I got his name. I knew
Speaker 2: his last name already, but I got his first name,
Speaker 2: which is a very uncommon name, and where he was born,
Speaker 2: where he was stationed at he was in the military,
Speaker 2: his birthday and his death day, wow, which was crazy.
Speaker 1: And that was month and day. Yeah wow, not the years,
Speaker 1: but yeah, right, but month and day. And then you
Speaker 1: got things like is there German Shepherds? Is there?
Speaker 2: Like what is with healthcare? And all this stuff? And
Speaker 2: so we just kept digging at it and was so
Speaker 2: interesting to me. And then I worked the next day,
Speaker 2: but this coworker he did not and I was like,
Speaker 2: it's okay, Like I don't think I should be like
Speaker 2: saying stuff like that. And for some reason, an hour
Speaker 2: before we close, he comes in to make himself a
Speaker 2: smoothie and he lives like thirty minutes away, and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, yes, I have to and I sit
Speaker 2: down because it was just a lot of information, and
Speaker 2: he was like, it looks like you just saw a ghost,
Speaker 2: like what's wrong with you? And I was like, there's
Speaker 2: no way you just said that to me. So it
Speaker 2: was so many things where I was like.
Speaker 1: Should I just tell him? And I was like okay.
Speaker 2: I was like wait, come back here to the back
Speaker 2: and he was like okay, and I just I just
Speaker 2: unloaded on him and I was like, was her dad's name?
Speaker 2: Blah blah and he was like yeah. The whole time,
Speaker 2: I think he was just very confused and I kind
Speaker 2: of made sure to not make it seem like a workurgitation,
Speaker 2: like stacked in stacotted facts at him, but it kind
Speaker 2: of was. But that's just like what came to me.
Speaker 1: But you have to when you're in that zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to just I call it psychic vomit, like
Speaker 1: you have to just get it all out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It felt like I had like a very powerful hold
Speaker 1: on personal information that wasn't mine and I wanted them.
Speaker 1: Really what you just said, the powerful hole You can
Speaker 1: feel it? Yeah, yeah, And I was like, I feel
Speaker 1: like this isn't mine and I need to share it.
Speaker 1: So I just told him.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like is this this this? I
Speaker 2: was like, do you guys have I was like, you
Speaker 2: guys have like the same exact smile, don't you? And
Speaker 2: he showed me a photo and it's uncanny. I think
Speaker 2: what resonated with him the most. I told him a
Speaker 2: lot of just basically everything that we had talked about,
Speaker 2: Like it.
Speaker 1: Was like over twenty pieces of validating facts. I remember
Speaker 1: like adding them up when you came home that night,
Speaker 1: mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And so I told him, like I was like, is
Speaker 2: this a day like significant in June? He was like,
Speaker 2: that's his birthday. And then I was like, what about March.
Speaker 2: I think it was like March nineteenth or something, and
Speaker 2: he was like, no, that doesn't ring any bell. And
Speaker 2: then I kept saying like German shepherds like healthcare, dad,
Speaker 2: and he was like no, no, and then he was like, anyway,
Speaker 2: so my mom's a nurse. I was like, so that
Speaker 2: would be the health don't care. He was very very
Speaker 2: nice about the whole thing, but there was a lot
Speaker 2: of things where he was like nope, nope, that's it's
Speaker 2: the worst. I For some reason, the dad was very
Speaker 2: adam out with Grand Canyon, and I was like, did
Speaker 2: you ever go with the Grand Canyon? And then he
Speaker 2: was like no, I didn't. And I was like, like,
Speaker 2: would you say nope? He would have very defermative no
Speaker 2: answers and be a little bit happy when it was
Speaker 2: I was no. I would just be like okay next,
Speaker 2: and then I just spit something else out.
Speaker 1: Okay. See, this is why you're a better medium than
Speaker 1: I am, because I it's like my guides have all
Speaker 1: the information and they like hand it to me one
Speaker 1: at a time, and so if I'm seeing the Grand
Speaker 1: Canyon and they're saying no, I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: the next card with the piece of information from my
Speaker 1: guide until like figure out that grand canyon and it
Speaker 1: stops me up. So those those nose are hard for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was just because I had already done
Speaker 2: it with you and gone with the information that I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, well I can pick this other thing
Speaker 2: out from the back of my mind and just tell
Speaker 2: him that and validate.
Speaker 1: It that way. But towards the end of it, it
Speaker 1: was just so mo.
Speaker 2: I started crying. It was very sad. He was like,
Speaker 2: do you need a hug. I was like, yeah, I do,
Speaker 2: Like this is I don't know why. It was very
Speaker 2: very sad. Dad just has so much love for them,
Speaker 2: and you could really feel that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I call that when you feel the love
Speaker 1: from the people on the other side. I don't have
Speaker 1: words to describe it, but I try, and I always
Speaker 1: say it's like their love is being pressed onto me.
Speaker 1: You know. I all felt so heavy, and I think
Speaker 1: he was like, why is she crying? But I was like,
Speaker 1: it was so sad. It's heavy not because it's sad
Speaker 1: or because his dad is grieving him on the other side.
Speaker 1: It's heavy because there's like this weight of oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to tell you this, and now I
Speaker 1: have this conduit, this medium through which I can tell
Speaker 1: you how much I love you and how proud I am.
Speaker 2: I Also, it was very every time I would get
Speaker 2: kind of uncomfortable and he was like, I am so
Speaker 2: into this. He's like I had no idea, Like he's like,
Speaker 2: what is happening right now? So that was very I
Speaker 2: didn't even think about that, like I like, oh, what
Speaker 2: if he thinks that this is like insane. I didn't
Speaker 2: even cross my mind. I just wanted to vomit essentially
Speaker 2: all the information.
Speaker 1: But I think the most week you have to go
Speaker 1: back to the Grand Canyon. Did you ever figure that out? Wow?
Speaker 1: What about the German shepherd?
Speaker 2: Well, that does come up, so okay. One of the
Speaker 2: most affirming things for him I was he has been
Speaker 2: dating his girlfriend, who also worked with all of us,
Speaker 2: for I think five or six years, and I could
Speaker 2: tell him I was like, your dad loves her, and
Speaker 2: he that's when he was like I'm gonna cry because
Speaker 2: he was like, he's like I think about it every
Speaker 2: day how she can't meet my dad, and that it
Speaker 2: like eats away at me. So that was, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the part that he wanted to hear the most.
Speaker 2: And after that, well, he's told me that March meant
Speaker 2: nothing his dad's death day, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: even though I think at that point I knew, and
Speaker 2: so he was like, okay, well, I'm gonna go call
Speaker 2: my mom.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 2: And so I just kept washing the dishes and like
Speaker 2: sucking up my tears, and he was on the phone
Speaker 2: with his mom and he came back in twenty minutes
Speaker 2: later screaming and he was.
Speaker 1: Like, that was the day that he died. This is insane.
Speaker 2: So other things to get confirmed later on, and then
Speaker 2: I think next week I worked with his girlfriend and
Speaker 2: I kept wondering because she is not into that stuff
Speaker 2: at all, and I kept wondering, like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: if she think I'm insane, because obviously he told her
Speaker 2: all of this, and we got to talking about how
Speaker 2: her family breathed German shepherds.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you knew that, you know he
Speaker 2: knew that, yeah, And he was like, nope, nothing age
Speaker 2: of German shepherds, so not that it was even a
Speaker 2: relative part to the dad but I think you just
Speaker 2: get other ways.
Speaker 1: It's a validation that yes, see your girlfriend, I see
Speaker 1: who you're dating. This is how I know what her
Speaker 1: family does. It's all value, is all important, and selfishly,
Speaker 1: not as your mom, but as like a fellow medium.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to hear you talk about the
Speaker 1: frustration of that, because I was like, now he's frustrating.
Speaker 2: He asked me after I was finished, he was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: one last thing, what is in my side?
Speaker 1: You're at home? And I laughed and he was like,
Speaker 1: what is in there? I was like, that's that.
Speaker 2: No, this is not stranger things. I cannot get into
Speaker 2: your mind and figure out what's your house?
Speaker 1: That made me annoy it. I was like, I just
Speaker 1: told you where your dad was born. When how he
Speaker 1: was very annoying. Yeah, just you tick off all the
Speaker 1: things you said and then they come back with that.
Speaker 1: I know. I always get that. What was the nickname
Speaker 1: they called me when I was six? You know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is what they're giving me, and
Speaker 1: that's all I can tell you is what they're giving me,
Speaker 1: and that is so so frustrating. Denise taught me a
Speaker 1: really good tool when a client comes at you like that,
Speaker 1: She says, you just reaffor all the things you have gotten,
Speaker 1: because then it kind of like calms the energy down
Speaker 1: and reminds them that, yeah, you are connecting with their
Speaker 1: loved one. But I do think that for the average person,
Speaker 1: especially him just randomly coming into the place, because like
Speaker 1: who goes to the place they work when they're not working?
Speaker 1: And you said he lived like a half hour away,
Speaker 1: that was he must have recognized, like, oh, my dad
Speaker 1: had me come here, and then to have that experience,
Speaker 1: it's so shocking. It was him coming there abruptly, that
Speaker 1: was true.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I guess I should and then
Speaker 2: I just kind of sat down and thought about doing it,
Speaker 2: and him saying, you look like you're seeing a ghost
Speaker 2: that I was like, that's too on the nose.
Speaker 1: I have to Yeah, I have to go through with this. Yes,
Speaker 1: So how did you feel throughout it?
Speaker 2: And after just through it just really sad and I
Speaker 2: was like I can't help believe him crying and all
Speaker 2: the security footage just catching this right now it didn't work.
Speaker 2: And also scared that everyone in where I were knew
Speaker 2: that I did that and they probably do. And I
Speaker 2: still wonder that every time I go to work and
Speaker 2: I'm like, does everyone here know that? And do they
Speaker 2: think I'm crazy? Right?
Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think just his girlfriend knew, and maybe one other
Speaker 2: coworker who we were both friends with, because she was
Speaker 2: also right into that stuff. But that's what I know
Speaker 2: for sure, But I don't think anyone else knew. That
Speaker 2: was just mainly my only concern.
Speaker 1: Wow, I would be the same way for sure, because
Speaker 1: you just never know, especially as I've said many times,
Speaker 1: we live in a very Bible belt area of the country,
Speaker 1: and so you just you never know what you're going
Speaker 1: to get and how it's going to be received. But
Speaker 1: did you feel the gratitude from his dad? I did.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was more gratitude or just
Speaker 2: like a sigh of relief kind of, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So I wonder because that really hasn't happened to you since, right, Like,
Speaker 1: You're not like, oh, I'm going to hang up a
Speaker 1: shingle and start doing readings. You just were like, oh,
Speaker 1: this happened, and this is amazing. If one of like
Speaker 1: if your roommate at school asked you to tune in,
Speaker 1: would you and I just wouldn't know how.
Speaker 2: I truly mean that, I can only when you like
Speaker 2: tell me.
Speaker 1: How to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm so serious and it's sucks. But yeah, that's like
Speaker 2: the only time I could ever feel like because I
Speaker 2: only really got that download of information on his dad
Speaker 2: when I sat with you and did it, like step
Speaker 2: by step, step by step everything.
Speaker 1: I told you him. I told you step by step.
Speaker 1: Then could you do step by step when you're at college?
Speaker 1: And see, I don't know, I truly don't.
Speaker 2: I only like believe in myself if you're in the room, Chloe,
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: That's not true. You're so much more intuitive than I am.
Speaker 1: We're gonna work on that this summer. We'll work on that.
Speaker 1: We have a new homework project for you, okay.
Speaker 2: Because I should. Because me and my roommate at school,
Speaker 2: she's like my my, my little twin. We truly do.
Speaker 2: We do true row readings to each other.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I have to tell the story. When
Speaker 1: we first met them. We met them at student orientation day.
Speaker 1: So you and your roommate had hooked up over social media,
Speaker 1: but you hadn't met her in person. So we go
Speaker 1: to the college to meet and I instantly just liked
Speaker 1: her so much. And she had numbers. Yeah, she has
Speaker 1: two to two you too, and a gold chain around
Speaker 1: her neck and I was like, oh, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And she said, oh, it's kind of weird, but I'm
Speaker 1: really into numerology. And I was like, oh, girl, it's
Speaker 1: not weird. I love how she is into it. She
Speaker 1: has it like posters of it.
Speaker 2: She was born at Tutu Tuo, so she always like
Speaker 2: wears that and stuff, and I love that because I
Speaker 2: love four four four.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the boys. You're lucky, remember, And then I
Speaker 1: remember her sweet dad was like, well, we have to
Speaker 1: get going. I'm getting an award in my YA class
Speaker 1: because I finally mastered camel and I was like, I
Speaker 1: love this family. And then that you brought her home
Speaker 1: for a weekend and you guys were doing tourou readings
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is so exciting. I know,
Speaker 1: it's very exciting. Yeah, I love that, so yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys should definitely keep exploring that.
Speaker 2: And I think, well, there's a mini mini story with that,
Speaker 2: because she's always like I think when she figured out
Speaker 2: what you did, she like jumped for joy and was like,
Speaker 2: this is insane like, i'd need to meet your mom.
Speaker 2: And then once she was I think she was like,
Speaker 2: so to have you with any experience of that, and
Speaker 2: I did, and from there on out she was like okay,
Speaker 2: like and I was like, I cannot tune into anything
Speaker 2: if my mom is not holding.
Speaker 1: My hand through the process. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about it once in the car
Speaker 2: on her way to get coffee, and she was like, like,
Speaker 2: how would you even start that process? And I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was like, it's not that simple.
Speaker 2: I can just be like you were born in Nashville
Speaker 2: and your sister Eleanor was born in California. And she goes,
Speaker 2: my sister Elaurora was born in California.
Speaker 1: Chloe. I was like, oh, oh, that gives me chills.
Speaker 1: You never told me.
Speaker 2: That, I know, because it was so minimal. And we
Speaker 2: were just like what just happened?
Speaker 1: Not minimal. We like sat inside once and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit scared right now. That is your
Speaker 1: big wonderful protector guide, Like he's showing you this is
Speaker 1: what you can do, and you don't, like, I know,
Speaker 1: I still so when I teach people how to do this,
Speaker 1: I still teach them how to ground and open and
Speaker 1: spin their chakras, and I still do it before readings,
Speaker 1: and I know I don't really have to, like I know,
Speaker 1: I probably could, but it's kind of like a safety
Speaker 1: net for me, do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, I don't know, I just can't
Speaker 1: let it go. And now it's almost it's almost like
Speaker 1: my signal to the other side that I'm ready to
Speaker 1: do readings, so I feel like I need that. And
Speaker 1: also I'm in my head so much so that when
Speaker 1: I'm focusing on my energy centers, I can get out
Speaker 1: of my heading into my body, because I really do
Speaker 1: think a lot of our intuition is in our body.
Speaker 1: You know, the confidences in the solar plexus, and the
Speaker 1: the emotion is in the heart chakra, and the visions
Speaker 1: is in the third eye chakra, and the clear cognizance
Speaker 1: and the downloads is in the crown chakra, which is
Speaker 1: where I think your ability is is claar cognizance, because
Speaker 1: you will get downloads. I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: recognize it half the time, but I'll hear you say things.
Speaker 1: I'll hear you. Well, let's talk about that too. One
Speaker 1: of the things out of all three of you, you
Speaker 1: and your sisters, you are the therapist for your friends.
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? Unfortunately? Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All of your friends come to you with their problems,
Speaker 1: and that's a sign.
Speaker 2: Of and it's always problems that I'm very not well
Speaker 2: versed in, which is interesting and I give I'll pat
Speaker 2: myself on the back.
Speaker 1: I give amazing advice. You should.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about what they're doing, but I
Speaker 2: am you.
Speaker 1: Should give yourself credit because some of your friends, and
Speaker 1: we won't give eddy details, but some have dealt with
Speaker 1: some heavy stuff and you'll come and tell me like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what's going on, and this is what I said,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dang, like that's spot on, Like that's
Speaker 1: exactly what you should say. And I hope they take it.
Speaker 1: But I do think that's a sign when people quote
Speaker 1: unquote confess to you and feel safe telling you all
Speaker 1: of those things. And when you, I mean, you've been
Speaker 1: coming up with this like therapeutic perfect advice since you
Speaker 1: were like, I don't know, eleven twelve, and so to me,
Speaker 1: that's like a clar cognizant download because you don't even
Speaker 1: know how you know the right thing to say. Do
Speaker 1: you agree?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so, because people do. I think
Speaker 2: that is something that all three of us, like my sisters,
Speaker 2: we do. People do just kind of spill information on us.
Speaker 2: I think we have a very comforting energy, which is great,
Speaker 2: but also a little dunting at times, because I think
Speaker 2: my coworker whose dad passed, he would tell people in jokes,
Speaker 2: like he kind of dealt with it through humor, but
Speaker 2: he would tell me such depressing, hard and heavy stuff
Speaker 2: and we were friends. But I was like wow, like, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was so much. Yeah, and it's an honor and a
Speaker 1: privilege to hold space for people like that. But it's hard.
Speaker 1: And like I said, you always know exactly what to say,
Speaker 1: which is absolutely great. I don't think that you and
Speaker 1: your sisters are super into the chakras, Like I remember
Speaker 1: attuning you guys to Raiki one summer years ago because
Speaker 1: Olivia and her friend wanted to learn it, and you
Speaker 1: guys are kind of like, this is not interesting. But
Speaker 1: I'm always kind of pushing the Chakras on. You guys
Speaker 1: just confused me. Yeah, I get it's a lot, but
Speaker 1: it is. It's a lot. It's a lot to take
Speaker 1: in and learn, and but do you want to tell
Speaker 1: the story of your chakra balancing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very I mean me and my sisters
Speaker 2: we were always like, Mom, can you do our readings?
Speaker 1: Mom? Can you do it? Mamy?
Speaker 2: Growing up, like because you can, but you won't because
Speaker 2: that's not very like, that's just not something you would do.
Speaker 2: And I came home from school one day and I
Speaker 2: just really I came bumps from high school all the time,
Speaker 2: just bummed, like I did not like high school. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what was different about this day, but
Speaker 2: you were like you were carrying so much of somebody's energy.
Speaker 2: And when you do stuff like this unprompted, I get
Speaker 2: so excited and I was like, what are we going
Speaker 2: to do? And so we laid down and I think
Speaker 2: you just aligned all my chakras and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: beard me, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I put the crystals on your chakras. I did the
Speaker 1: pendulum to see which one blocked, and I think there
Speaker 1: were three that were pretty blocked. And so then I
Speaker 1: did reiki to kind of to kind of tune in
Speaker 1: and find out why the chakras were blocked. Do you
Speaker 1: know which three? I know it was the solar plexus,
Speaker 1: and that's when I felt who you were carrying, and
Speaker 1: it was the energy of your teacher. And then I
Speaker 1: know there was a little blockage in the heart chakra
Speaker 1: and the throat chakra because you needed to, you know,
Speaker 1: communicate some things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically what it was is I think this
Speaker 2: was sophomore year, so I was in Spanish two and
Speaker 2: this teacher is one of my favorite teachers I've ever had.
Speaker 2: She was so sweet and she made me have a
Speaker 2: passion for Spanish now and now I'm it's gonna be
Speaker 2: like my minor. And I just loved her, and she
Speaker 2: would always confide in me and my friend Hannah, and
Speaker 2: we would always like.
Speaker 1: Have little side chats with her. I just I loved her.
Speaker 2: And you told me that I was carrying a lot
Speaker 2: of her energy and that she is quote unquote pushing
Speaker 2: something serious under the rug and she's gonna have to
Speaker 2: deal with it soon.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what that could be.
Speaker 2: I don't And it also confused me that I could
Speaker 2: be carrying her energy like that. That freaked me out
Speaker 2: from that point on because sometimes I will just realize,
Speaker 2: like I'll just feel emotionally heavy or tired, stressed, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is that?
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, who else is energy? Am I
Speaker 1: backpacking off of?
Speaker 2: It's very annoying to think about, but you said that.
Speaker 2: And then three days later she came up to me
Speaker 2: and my friend Hannah in class and she was like,
Speaker 2: girls like, this is gonna be my last year teaching
Speaker 2: or next year, we're gonna last her teaching because you
Speaker 2: play sign up for Spanish three And we're like, why
Speaker 2: would if your last your teaching And she was like,
Speaker 2: my visa expired and I have to go back.
Speaker 1: So sad. It was so sad, but a good reminder
Speaker 1: that when you are an intuitive EmPATH, you are a
Speaker 1: psychic sponge and you're picking up We're like little vacuum
Speaker 1: cleaners for people's stress, which is why I do harp
Speaker 1: on and press on about the chakras and your aura
Speaker 1: and keeping the energy clear. And I think that we
Speaker 1: as zimpaths pick up on some of that stress almost.
Speaker 1: I mean we do it unwittingly, but often we can
Speaker 1: pick up on people's stress and negative energy that they're
Speaker 1: not even aware of, you know, Because she was sweeping
Speaker 1: out of the rud like oh, I'll deal with that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'll think about that later. And who can blame her?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a colossal change in her life. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you still not really into the chakras?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Into it meaning knowing all about them? I can't.
Speaker 2: I know, I know Route, I know Crown, I know
Speaker 2: so Flexus, but I don't know what the meetings behind
Speaker 2: no gosh, noah, Okay, well we'll get there. But I
Speaker 2: would like to know the meetings behind all of them
Speaker 2: so I can continue being a therapist friend. And yeah,
Speaker 2: just because I don't, don't didn't don't you say that
Speaker 2: there's crystals for each chakra? I think that would because
Speaker 2: one of my other friends, I'm so happy that she's
Speaker 2: still a very right and bubbly and extroverted person because
Speaker 2: her household is very negative and I'm just waiting for
Speaker 2: her to, I don't know, absorb it all too much.
Speaker 1: What do you need to get her? Some apothalyte and
Speaker 1: some cluster courts amethysts would be really good for that family,
Speaker 1: or just a giant yeah.
Speaker 2: Or maybe I could step in and absorb it all
Speaker 2: for that chat.
Speaker 1: And just so listeners know, I have taught you about
Speaker 1: the chakras forever. But I just don't think it's like
Speaker 1: stuck in there. And I have taught you a lot
Speaker 1: about crystals, and I was very proud when we were
Speaker 1: moving and packing boxes and all of you could name
Speaker 1: most of the crystals we were packing up. Of course,
Speaker 1: if I couldn't at this point, it really yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite stories to tell about you.
Speaker 1: You had saved up like your birthday and Christmas money
Speaker 1: from relatives and we were going to the mountains and
Speaker 1: I had said, okay, girls, like we can stay in
Speaker 1: this cabin and do the water sports and do the trails,
Speaker 1: but we have to go to the crystal stores, remember,
Speaker 1: and your other sisters were like okay, mom, But you
Speaker 1: were excited and you took all your money into this
Speaker 1: one crystal store and you were like, I'm buying a crystal.
Speaker 1: You bought Boulder Opal and it was such a beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful piece. And then we took it home and it
Speaker 1: was it was like fifty dollars, which is like a
Speaker 1: lot of money. And as your mom like, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to like plump down my credit you save your money,
Speaker 1: but I knew it would mean more if you you know,
Speaker 1: did that yourself. And so we studied about boulder oval
Speaker 1: and then we made it into a necklace for you,
Speaker 1: and that was just a proud non moment. The other
Speaker 1: crystal you had to have was white a ragonite because
Speaker 1: you thought it looked like a brain. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like a brain er, like a
Speaker 2: little fluffy cloud.
Speaker 1: I really liked it. Yeah, so we got that. So
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of times rebetded crystal stores and
Speaker 1: you just like had to have the one your ring,
Speaker 1: your blue ring. I needed to have that. Oh, the
Speaker 1: Shata kite. Yes, I like hopefully just stole it from you.
Speaker 1: You did and wore it for three years. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: And I was happy for you to have that. Shadowkite
Speaker 1: is such a great stone for intuitives as well. It
Speaker 1: brings in the blue and the green. It's it's one
Speaker 1: of the top ten for opening up to your intuition.
Speaker 1: So it just made sense that you coveted that. So
Speaker 1: do you feel like you'll do this for a living
Speaker 1: one day or do you think this will just be
Speaker 1: a side hobby. I don't know. I think it would
Speaker 1: just be a side hobby. Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: I don't really know why Because it's not something that
Speaker 2: I know everything about. I don't know if i'd be
Speaker 2: like comfortable enough in it. I feel like that's this
Speaker 2: is your arena too, and I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd also just feel like very confident in other
Speaker 2: areas of like study. So yeah, but knowing that you
Speaker 2: are intuitive and trusting it, I think that is half
Speaker 2: the battle for really learning how to live a full,
Speaker 2: rich life, because you can use that. Look how you've
Speaker 2: already used that intuition to help people. It's also I'm
Speaker 2: just grateful for it, for understanding people beforehand. I think
Speaker 2: that my friends will tell me, like, I don't know
Speaker 2: stuff like you keep like you have the really long
Speaker 2: friendships and you have I don't have like a humongous
Speaker 2: amount of friends. I have like four people that I
Speaker 2: call like my best friends. And I think that's because
Speaker 2: you can get a read on people beforehand, and just
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I could be in
Speaker 2: a room of five hundred people and because of being
Speaker 2: an EmPATH or intuitive, you can just pick out the
Speaker 2: people that you know you're going to click with. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's I think what I'm.
Speaker 1: Most grateful for Yeah, I know for all of you girls,
Speaker 1: because you all trust that and you've all made such
Speaker 1: good choices in general, but especially with friends, you know,
Speaker 1: and I really respect that, especially like in middle school,
Speaker 1: you guys did it. Were never like, oh well, that's
Speaker 1: the popular girls I have to be friends with. And
Speaker 1: if you got a negative vibe from someone, you guys
Speaker 1: trusted it. And I just think that's worth its weight
Speaker 1: in gold. Oh my gosh, the Owen story. We have
Speaker 1: to tell that. Oh yeah, wait, before we tell that story,
Speaker 1: we have to take one more quick break for our
Speaker 1: advertisers and then we'll be right back. Okay, welcome back everyone.
Speaker 1: So Chloe tell us the Owen story. It's a good one.
Speaker 2: Nice Okay. So, my sister has been dating her boyfriend
Speaker 2: Owen for four years in September.
Speaker 1: Four years. Four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we love Owen. Yeah, he's just been the
Speaker 2: most amazing boyfriend to her. You could definitely tell like
Speaker 2: it like he was just never going to be a
Speaker 2: passing ship, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we knew this, like you knew yeah from day one.
Speaker 1: My favorite Owen story. So every time Olivia comes home
Speaker 1: from school and now from work, we have a lovely time,
Speaker 1: and then she gets ready to leave and what happens.
Speaker 1: You do love this story.
Speaker 2: I forget she and every time she leaves home she cries.
Speaker 2: She cries and cries and cries. And she was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting in the car.
Speaker 1: I can't leave.
Speaker 2: And he was like, let's just get Starbucks, and she
Speaker 2: sucked up her tears in the car.
Speaker 1: He goes. He goes, Olivia, we'll get in the car
Speaker 1: and I'll buy you Starbucks. And she goes, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: she was a I'm just like Olivia.
Speaker 2: He at her at my mom's book party. That was
Speaker 2: such a fun book party. So many people came and
Speaker 2: so many your books completely sold out. Yeah, it was insane.
Speaker 2: He ran the booth. He did the whole time. He
Speaker 2: was like, he had an amazing time. We would try
Speaker 2: to all have conversation with him, and Li'll be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is my boyfriend, and he's like one more minute,
Speaker 2: because he would see someone get to the booth and
Speaker 2: he'd have to dart over there and sell them a book.
Speaker 2: Like he ran that. It was really funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm sorry, get to your Oh the story.
Speaker 2: They started dating in twenty twenty one and in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: I was I have no memory of this, but I
Speaker 2: went through my notes up the other day to try
Speaker 2: and find something, and I had written in my notes.
Speaker 2: I think I need to pull it up so I
Speaker 2: can't read it like word for word.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 2: So they met in September of twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 2: this says July twenty eighth, a twenty twenty I just
Speaker 2: randomly wrote in an afternoon. I'm writing this now so
Speaker 2: I can prove to everyone that an Owen will be
Speaker 2: important in either Olivia or Victoria's life.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a mic drop moment. Very I
Speaker 1: have no memory of doing that, so you don't know
Speaker 1: if it came in a dream and meditation.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a dream because it was at two point
Speaker 2: thirty pm.
Speaker 1: Oh right, right, so yeah, and it just came over you.
Speaker 1: And then they met a year later. See that's important
Speaker 1: too in terms of psychic information we get. The time
Speaker 1: is such a such a strange thing, you know, Like
Speaker 1: when people come to me for a reading and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh am I going to get a new job.
Speaker 1: I'll get a strong yes. Sometimes I'll get the name
Speaker 1: of the first name of the person hiring them. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound braggy. A couple of times
Speaker 1: I've gotten the name of the person who will hire them.
Speaker 1: Usually i'll get I don't know information about the company
Speaker 1: or the type of work, and then they'll email me
Speaker 1: like three months later like uh, hello, that did not
Speaker 1: come to fruition, and I'm like, okay, I'm sorry or
Speaker 1: hang tight. And then six months later, nine months later,
Speaker 1: oh my god, gosh, that's where I.
Speaker 2: Don't tell I guess I mean again, I don't remember that,
Speaker 2: but I don't remember being like Olivia, I just wrote
Speaker 2: this down and it's going to be important, because it's
Speaker 2: not like I want to wait and see if that's
Speaker 2: something that will happen.
Speaker 1: First. Yeah, well it's hot, because that's the scary part
Speaker 1: of doing this is putting yourself out there and putting
Speaker 1: yourself on the line like that. And it's very very
Speaker 1: rare that you get credit or validation. And not that
Speaker 1: we're in this for credit or validation, that's not it.
Speaker 1: But that doubt is something. I don't care how long
Speaker 1: you've been trusting your intuition, you're always going to have
Speaker 1: to grapple with that doubt. And so receiving that feedback
Speaker 1: is really really important. Before we wrap up, tell us
Speaker 1: what is the best thing about being an intuitive EmPATH
Speaker 1: and what is the worst thing.
Speaker 2: The best thing I think it would still be finding
Speaker 2: for I feel like I can look at you or
Speaker 2: talk to you for one second and I don't even
Speaker 2: know if that's being intuitive or I guess. I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of people can do that and just
Speaker 2: knowing like we're going to click or we're not going
Speaker 2: to click. And I know who I feel like I
Speaker 2: know who you are as a person to a t
Speaker 2: from there on out. And my least favorite part would
Speaker 2: probably be I can't I'm not even near what you
Speaker 2: do at all, like you have it as a career
Speaker 2: and friends will still be like, so what do you
Speaker 2: say about this? What do you think about this? What
Speaker 2: do you And I'm like, it is pressure. I think
Speaker 2: it's just pressure. That's my least favorite part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pressure. Yeah, that really shifted my friendships for
Speaker 1: me and really weird ways where just talking to them
Speaker 1: about normal problems and issues was no longer talking and
Speaker 1: I would feel that where they go. So I talked
Speaker 1: to my boss about the promotion and I don't know
Speaker 1: what do you feel? And I way more respect you
Speaker 1: if you just say, hey, can you pull some cards
Speaker 1: or tune into this question than trying to like backdoor it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really like that. The other thing
Speaker 1: that's hard with friends, Remember, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I told you this story when I was downtown with
Speaker 1: Aunt Courtney and Michael and Michelley. We were all like
Speaker 1: just hanging out and drinking a glass of wine and
Speaker 1: I turned around and I saw one of our mutual
Speaker 1: friends and I dropped my wine glass and she she
Speaker 1: called on Courtney and was like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: did your sister say? I saw on her face something
Speaker 1: bad's gonna happen. And I was like, So Courtney called
Speaker 1: me and I was like, what what did I was
Speaker 1: clumsy and I dropped my glass and she was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, she saw it in your face. You saw
Speaker 1: something in her aura. And I was like no. I
Speaker 1: was like downtown with you and friends and just having
Speaker 1: a glass of wine. There was nothing to it. And
Speaker 1: then the next week she got devastating news and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is that? So I don't think it's connected, but
Speaker 1: now she thinks I'm like this mystical seer I don't know.
Speaker 1: But then there are other times. I was just in
Speaker 1: a yoga class with a friend and when he walked in,
Speaker 1: I saw beautiful, this beautiful arch of just orange light
Speaker 1: around him, and I said, where do you work at?
Speaker 1: He's a teacher too, And I said, what are you
Speaker 1: working on creatively this summer? And he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about our project, but I haven't started it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you need to start it. It's
Speaker 1: like getting ready to be birthed in you. And he
Speaker 1: was open to that. Luckily, So I understand why friends
Speaker 1: might ask us those questions, because sometimes we actually do
Speaker 1: get those insights. But I don't walk around psychic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you saw me yesterday when I came home and
Speaker 1: I told you about that reading I did for my
Speaker 1: high school friend and like it weighs on you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I couldn't. I couldn't shake it all night.
Speaker 2: I think there is like positive negatives to like the
Speaker 2: I feel like there's two sides or a person who
Speaker 2: just like wants like. I feel like there's the person
Speaker 2: who wants you and sees you as like a fountain
Speaker 2: of information, and then there's people like our family friend Jack.
Speaker 2: He sees who like he sees the world in you,
Speaker 2: Like there's people who just.
Speaker 1: I don't know Jack. Yeah, we've known Jack since you
Speaker 1: were in my belly yeah zero zero Wow. And that's
Speaker 1: he's the first one of your friends that I discovered
Speaker 1: listened to psychic teachers. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then you guys told me that I think
Speaker 2: it's really funny. Well, yeah, Regan, she follows you. Everyone
Speaker 2: just thinks you're the most interesting person ever. Go on,
Speaker 2: I'm serious, Like I think that we were. And it's
Speaker 2: so interesting to me because growing up we were like, wait,
Speaker 2: like it's strange to tell people at our moment psychic
Speaker 2: for a living in a Catholic school. But then all
Speaker 2: my friends were like, your mom knows what and they
Speaker 2: think it's the most interesting thing ever, because it is
Speaker 2: the most interesting thing ever. And you have an endless
Speaker 2: amount of stories and I could just listen to for
Speaker 2: weeks seriously.
Speaker 1: So I don't give good stories. It does.
Speaker 2: And I just think in Jack's case, it was funny
Speaker 2: because he's non nu since he was zero, and I
Speaker 2: think you started listening to your podcast like in high
Speaker 2: school just for fun, and I just think that's really funny.
Speaker 1: It's so so sweet. Yeah, And I remember I did
Speaker 1: readings for all of your teachers and they were all
Speaker 1: very Catholic and went to Mass at least twice a week,
Speaker 1: would you agree, And they were very open to it.
Speaker 1: And you know, so it's funny, as I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: listening to you, I'm thinking, why am I always so
Speaker 1: nervous to say what I do for it? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I've for the most part, I've had positive experiences with it.
Speaker 1: There's been a few, you know, there's always a few,
Speaker 1: but for the most part it's been it's been a
Speaker 1: pretty positive experience. I am glad that I stopped doing
Speaker 1: readings out of the house because there was some activity
Speaker 1: happening up when I was doing that. I knew you
Speaker 1: were picking up on that as a little girl, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, no, And so it was nice.
Speaker 1: I really I tried. I don't apparently I didn't succeed
Speaker 1: as much, which as I thought I did, But I
Speaker 1: tried really hard to keep that world separate from your
Speaker 1: the family world. I tried to just go to the
Speaker 1: office and do my readings and then like just come
Speaker 1: home and do homework and dinner and not as I'm
Speaker 1: listening to you.
Speaker 2: No, we I the office like we hated when you
Speaker 2: were away, Like hate did it? I think I thought
Speaker 2: that's why you stopped really going, because we were like, mom,
Speaker 2: come back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well well that was part of it. But also
Speaker 1: you guys were older, and I felt like, okay, if
Speaker 1: I do bring something home, because there would just be
Speaker 1: little travelers at the end of readings like the one
Speaker 1: we talked about in the beginning. Oh yeah, and I
Speaker 1: just you know, you can feel and sense and emote
Speaker 1: with them, but Toy sees them, and I think it.
Speaker 1: I think it really scared her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she hasn't since she was like seven.
Speaker 1: No, she because she saw the little girl again when
Speaker 1: she was twelve, and then she saw Gretchen, our dog
Speaker 1: when she passed. So it still comes in sometimes for
Speaker 1: her and she's just where she's like, nope, she's very scientific.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was, but I mean it's for you too.
Speaker 2: I think the last time was Maggie Nana when pop
Speaker 2: Up Wait, when pop Up died. Yes, you always forget this.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I have a diary he wrote down,
Speaker 2: because I read it the other day and I was like,
Speaker 2: you saw Nana sitting in a pew in a red sweater.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I just funeral. I did forget that.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, thanks for bringing that up, because in my mind,
Speaker 1: the last spirit I saw was it when we were
Speaker 1: in Asheville and we were just walking looking for one
Speaker 1: of my crystal stores and there was a couple they
Speaker 1: were just leaning into a like a window shopping and
Speaker 1: I saw his guide standing behind him. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: had his hands behind his back. It was just like
Speaker 1: looking over his shoulder too, like, oh, what are we
Speaker 1: looking at now? And it was just it was so
Speaker 1: clear and vivid for you know, a moment, and then
Speaker 1: I looked away, and then I looked back and he
Speaker 1: was gone and the couple was still there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, I forgot I saw Maggie at her husband's funeral.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: See okay, Exhibit A. And why I'm constantly telling people
Speaker 1: to keep a validation journle and write stuff down. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for I I'll valid it for you. Anything
Speaker 1: else you want to mention or anything weird about having
Speaker 1: a psychic mom or being a psychic kid. No, I
Speaker 1: think the last thing would.
Speaker 2: Probably be people do ask like the only friend I've
Speaker 2: had that has asked me like, how does your mom
Speaker 2: balance being Catholic and like a psychic? That's just because
Speaker 2: this person was very religious, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, It's never been a problem for her. She
Speaker 2: used to it to aid her kind of yeah, And
Speaker 2: honestly it helped me because after that many years of
Speaker 2: Catholic school, I was like, what is.
Speaker 1: This about all about?
Speaker 2: But then you would say things and it would affirm
Speaker 2: all like I would start doubting, like faith or whatnot.
Speaker 2: And then because of what you do, I'd totally three
Speaker 2: sixtyed for me in a way that like I think
Speaker 2: after I did that reading, you're like, Chloe, where do
Speaker 2: you think you're speaking to him from heaven? Right? And
Speaker 2: also when you saw the Holy Spirit?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? Like you what it was?
Speaker 2: It like little dots going into people starting at the
Speaker 2: crown of their head pops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was right, Yeah, that happened to me.
Speaker 1: Right when you guys stopped coming to church with me,
Speaker 1: remember like around middle school, I want to say, and
Speaker 1: that was really hard for me because I wanted you
Speaker 1: guys there and I remember Dad had stopped going to
Speaker 1: church too, so it was just me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: why am I doing this? Like why am I getting
Speaker 1: up early at a Sunday and driving? And I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was having one of those crisis
Speaker 1: of faith. I because there's so much about the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church that I do disagree with, and I think that's
Speaker 1: obvious and I don't have to list them out, but
Speaker 1: I just always feel comforted there, and I always felt
Speaker 1: such a connection to Mary and the angels and the saints,
Speaker 1: and so I just kept going. But I said to God,
Speaker 1: like I need a sign, Like I just need a
Speaker 1: sign that you know this is where I am supposed
Speaker 1: to keep going, because it didn't feel like it aligned
Speaker 1: with who I was. And I'm just sitting there alone
Speaker 1: in the pew, and I remember feeling this like vibration
Speaker 1: in my right ear. So I thought they turned on
Speaker 1: the ceiling fans and I look up and I'm like, oh, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: we don't have ceiling fans. And so then the priest
Speaker 1: had us kneel because he was blessing the Eucharist, and
Speaker 1: I still felt that like buzzing in my ear. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even like an audible hum it was it was
Speaker 1: like a sensation of something shifting in the air, and
Speaker 1: so I looked up again and I saw it looked
Speaker 1: like drops of liquid mercury, and they were just silver drops,
Speaker 1: and everybody got one drop into their crown chakra. And
Speaker 1: I heard like an actual voice. And I hate saying
Speaker 1: that because it sounds so weird, and I rarely ever
Speaker 1: hear voices, but I heard it in my head, not audibly,
Speaker 1: inside my head, and it said, we are preparing your
Speaker 1: souls to receive the Eucharist. And I was like, holy bleep.
Speaker 1: And then and from that day on, I've always taken
Speaker 1: the host and the wine. And I've never taken the
Speaker 1: wine since I got first community and in second grade,
Speaker 1: because I think it's disgusting. I agree.
Speaker 2: I've never had a sip of it, even a communion.
Speaker 1: I've faked it. Yeah, No, I'm a drham about too,
Speaker 1: But since that day I always have but you know,
Speaker 1: being the doubter and the overthinker that I am. Once
Speaker 1: I got home and thought about that experience, I had
Speaker 1: to go for a walk by myself and kind of
Speaker 1: and kind of like talk to God because I was like,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about all my friends who had left faith,
Speaker 1: whatever their faith was and just didn't go to church
Speaker 1: anymore or Templar Synagogue or anything. And I thought about
Speaker 1: my friends who were diagnostic and anyway, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: how does their soul get prepared? You know, like what
Speaker 1: that's not right that you have to get the Eucharist.
Speaker 1: And that's when I got that download of anywhere you
Speaker 1: go to fill up your soul, you get that mercury drop,
Speaker 1: whatever that is. I just felt like it was grace,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think if you are walking
Speaker 1: in the woods or doing a random act of kindness
Speaker 1: or meditating or sitting with a tree, that you can
Speaker 1: get that silver drop. Yeah. Speaking of even though you're
Speaker 1: being so nice and complimentary to me right now, which
Speaker 1: I truly appreciate, sweetie, you guys all still make fun
Speaker 1: of me whenever I have to hug a tree. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that, because it's just a very funny sight.
Speaker 1: We'll be walking you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, mom, there are people and I still will.
Speaker 1: I think, but you have to have felt the energy
Speaker 1: from a tree, right especially the one at Airly.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get there one day.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, are there other things I do that embarrass you? No,
Speaker 1: that's it no, just what I have to like. So
Speaker 1: they're just some trees I have to like connect with.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, I thought I'd be a tree hugger.
Speaker 2: But here we are.
Speaker 1: Here we are. That's okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was my last bit of information that
Speaker 2: I think that whatever people say about balancing being psychic
Speaker 2: and being Catholic doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I think it's like the perfect balance. I do too,
Speaker 1: because it's it's one of the only faiths I know
Speaker 1: of that allows you to go through into mediaries. If
Speaker 1: God's busy, or God is you don't even know what
Speaker 1: God is, then you've got Mary, who's the universal mother
Speaker 1: to us all. Or you've got your brother energy archetype
Speaker 1: of Jesus. Or you've got all the saints, you've got
Speaker 1: all the angels, you've got you know all of that,
Speaker 1: And I think that's hand in hand with what we
Speaker 1: do as intuitives. Padre Pio is who I will.
Speaker 2: Bring up in any conversation. There are so many people
Speaker 2: that swear up and down the bay you know everything
Speaker 2: about them. People don't know Podrapio. Really, yes, put some
Speaker 2: respect on Podrapio's in because he when I would have
Speaker 2: my doubts in middle school, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm buying into the podra Pio saved it,
Speaker 2: because that is the craziest story to this day. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it really is part like I just the whole stigmata.
Speaker 1: Yeah, him being so recent yes recently, watch him giving
Speaker 1: masks easy and all the evidence of him bilocating and
Speaker 1: healing people, and or the letters he would get from
Speaker 1: all around, all the different languages and he could read
Speaker 1: them and he said it was because his angel told
Speaker 1: him to. And my favorite Padre Pio's story is how
Speaker 1: he always had to sleep with the light on m m.
Speaker 1: Because that that is, if I'm sleeping alone, I have
Speaker 1: to have a little light on somewhere to this day,
Speaker 1: because when I was growing up, I would always see
Speaker 1: stuff and sun stuff, and it freaked me out. But
Speaker 1: if I had a leg on, I would be okay.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think I've told you this. Gigi
Speaker 1: would always go to bed after me and she'd come
Speaker 1: into the room and turn the light off. No, yes,
Speaker 1: and then like an hour later I'd feel someone in
Speaker 1: the room or have a weird ghosty experience.
Speaker 2: Agree, Because growing up I shared a room with Victoria for.
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, thirteen years.
Speaker 2: It's dark and she needs the door shut. And she's
Speaker 2: my older sister. So what she said went. And I
Speaker 2: hated having the door shut because it would be pitch
Speaker 2: block in our room and I'd feel I always felt
Speaker 2: as if there was something in the room, and by
Speaker 2: closing the door, we were trapped with it because I
Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I'm paranoid. And when the door
Speaker 2: was tracked a little bit, I was like, ooh, we're fine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's a tiny little stream of light coming through,
Speaker 2: and she it was like an ocdy thing for her.
Speaker 2: It had to be shut and dark. So I agree,
Speaker 2: mom my name a little bit of light, a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of light. So pydro Bio affirmed that for us.
Speaker 1: So before we close up, I just want to thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the show. Was it
Speaker 1: scary fun? No, it's very fun. Okay, good. I hope
Speaker 1: you come back on. And I just want to remind you.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna roll your eyes, but you have
Speaker 1: always been the angel and our family. And I remember
Speaker 1: when I found out I was pregnant with you. That
Speaker 1: was the week that every doctor told me Dad would
Speaker 1: not survive. That week and I remember going to the
Speaker 1: nurse that night and saying, I've got to you know,
Speaker 1: I've got to hold his hand and tell him that
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant. And he squeezed my hand when I said,
Speaker 1: squeeze my hand. If you heard me, we are pregnant.
Speaker 1: And that nurse who dated uncle body, so you could
Speaker 1: somehow we can track her out if you don't believe me.
Speaker 1: But she said, oh my god, I saw that, and
Speaker 1: I just I knew. I knew that he was going
Speaker 1: to fight to meet you and come back. And so
Speaker 1: I've always said that you saved your dad and you
Speaker 1: saved us throughout that terrible, terrible time. And when when
Speaker 1: Dad finally did wake up, I mean, you can imagine
Speaker 1: how I harassed him. I'm sure what happened in your coma?
Speaker 1: What did you see? Who did you talk to? I mean,
Speaker 1: I that poor man was still learning to walk and talk,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, And finally when he
Speaker 1: was a little bit better, and could you know, do
Speaker 1: all those things? He said, the only thing I remember
Speaker 1: is dancing with a little girl with curly hair. Now
Speaker 1: I didn't in freckles, yes, and I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were having a girl. Remember, I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: such a great psychic.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I had knitted an entire blue blanket sitting in the
Speaker 1: hospital with him that summer, so I thought I was
Speaker 1: having a boy, and I was like, oh, that's sweet.
Speaker 1: He probably had like an image of you know, Olivia
Speaker 1: or Tory that he was thinking of. And then we
Speaker 1: go for the sonogram and find out we're having a
Speaker 1: little girl, and I was like, oh, my gosh. And
Speaker 1: then you're born, and I mean, Chloe has the most
Speaker 1: amazing freckles, a massive, massive curve, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: so you were with him during that time, and it just,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just reminds me that there's something
Speaker 1: otherworldly and angelic and special about you. And I just
Speaker 1: love you. Oh, I just love you.
Speaker 2: Mom.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, enough much, she's done, Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Have you ever told the story about me parting the clouds?
Speaker 1: No? Oh, let's tell that story. Do you remember it
Speaker 1: or do you remember me telling you it? Because you
Speaker 1: were so really little, I like I remember it in
Speaker 1: the sense that I'm like, it's something I would say,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I like, yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: something you would say. So when Chloe was little. She
Speaker 1: had this habit. It was so adorable. This was when
Speaker 1: you were like three, four or five. You would hand
Speaker 1: me a little notebook and say, write this down. You remember,
Speaker 1: I said most of them so you've seen them. But
Speaker 1: she would like dictate these amazing stories of fairies. And
Speaker 1: that was fantastic. But one time you came to me
Speaker 1: at and this one I think I wrote down just
Speaker 1: because I had to. I can't remember if you told me,
Speaker 1: but you said, I'm so glad I picked you to
Speaker 1: be my mom. And I said, I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: picked me too, honey. And you said, I remember how
Speaker 1: it happened, and you said, I remember being I think
Speaker 1: you used the words in heaven, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think I said in the cloud, in the clouds, okay,
Speaker 1: in the clouds, And you said you were like up high,
Speaker 1: like in a tower, and God came up to you,
Speaker 1: and you said, he was really, really, really big, and
Speaker 1: he said it's time to pick your parents. And he
Speaker 1: leaned out this little like Rapunzel tower window. It's just
Speaker 1: how I kind of pictured it in my head. And
Speaker 1: he moved his hand and the clouds moved away, and
Speaker 1: then you saw three sets of parents, and you picked us.
Speaker 2: I remember as just like there was three clouds, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I saw someone's face and hers was
Speaker 2: the biggest smile, and she had the best hair, and
Speaker 2: so I think, and she looks like the sun, and so.
Speaker 1: I just I reached out to that cloud. You picked
Speaker 1: me because of my hair, and you're stunning always in
Speaker 1: my mind. For I don't remember that detail, but I
Speaker 1: love the story. Well, I love that, and that's another
Speaker 1: example of how you've always been doing mystical things like that,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's just who you are. And I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you do with your big,
Speaker 1: beautiful heart and your amazing, glorious light. And I don't
Speaker 1: care what you do for a career as long, really
Speaker 1: I don't, as long as you're happy and you're fulfilling
Speaker 1: your amazing talents. But I do hope that you always, always,
Speaker 1: always trust and listen to that still small voice within,
Speaker 1: because it is wiser than I am, and it'll never
Speaker 1: ever lead you astray. I love you, I love you mom,
Speaker 1: and I love all of you listeners. Thank you so
Speaker 1: very much for listening to this episode. We hope you
Speaker 1: learn something from Chloe's amazing journey into developing as an
Speaker 1: intuitive and we hope that you have a fantastic week
Speaker 1: filled with your own mystical experiences. Ask for signs about
Speaker 1: who your animal guide is. Ask to have an amazing
Speaker 1: dream tonight. You never know what will happen, and as always,
Speaker 1: tell them what to do.
Speaker 2: Chloe, remember to be the light for yourself and others.
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