WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.879 It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:05.519 Boston's News Radio. 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.720 Thanks very much, Madison. The weather seems a lot nicer tonight. 4 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.880 I mean it's not perfect, don't get me wrong, but 5 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:14.000 it's a lot nicer tonight than it has been the 6 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.559 last couple of nights. Wherever you are here in New England, 7 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:21.559 hopefully it's a little more cool than it was the 8 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.559 last couple of nights. My name is Dan Ray. Rob 9 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:26.800 Brooks is the producer of the program. He's back at 10 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:34.759 broadcast headquarters Central at the iHeart Brain Trust Brain He's 11 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:37.079 where it's all happening. I'm simply a guy out here 12 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:42.799 somewhere in a bunker doing my show remotely. Anyway. My 13 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:44.600 name is Dan Ray, and as I said, I'm the 14 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.600 host of Nights Side, and we have some interesting guests 15 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.399 coming up tonight. We're going to talk with Boston Globe 16 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:58.039 opinion columnist Kareine Hajar about that mayoral race in New 17 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.600 York earlier this week. Very interesting development in that race, 18 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:05.959 So long to Andrew Cuomo. We'll also talk about some 19 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:11.040 comments made by a congressman up here, Congressman Auchincloss, who 20 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.560 points out that there's a lot of stores he goes 21 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.000 into where things now are locked up lock and key, 22 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.599 and in order to get maybe a tube of toothpaste 23 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:24.599 or a bottle of hair shampoo, you have to get 24 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:28.359 the clerk to unlock the locked up area. And he 25 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:32.439 feels that is enduring to the detriment of him and 26 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:35.000 his fellow Democrats. And they will also talk about a 27 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:39.359 news conference this morning in which the Pentagon, led by 28 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:41.680 the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff US Air 29 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.920 Force General Dan Kin, who provided a lot of information 30 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:50.280 about those strikes on the nuclear sites in Iran over 31 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.000 the weekend. But first off, we have our four guests 32 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.359 this hour, and we're going to start off with a 33 00:01:55.400 --> 00:02:00.799 certified financial planner and education fellow had a group called 34 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.319 Alliance for Lifetime Income. It's a nonprofit that educates the 35 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.840 public but the value of guaranteed lifetime income during retirement, 36 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:13.960 which of course includes smart healthcare cost planning. My guest 37 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:20.000 is named jo Jay. Welcome to Nightside, and thank you 38 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:24.800 very much for having me tonight. So your focus is medicare, 39 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:26.439 I believe, is that correct. 40 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.439 I have a book I've published book IF called Maximizer Medicare. 41 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.800 It sits in most of the largest library systems throughout 42 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:35.319 the country. 43 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.599 Okay, and I assume people could also probably get that 44 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.240 book through Amazon dot Com or something like that, and 45 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.840 we can talk about that a little bit later. Most 46 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:50.080 people assume that Medicare will be there upon their retirement 47 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:55.520 and they no longer are covered by the insurance of 48 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.680 perhaps the company or the government system where they work. 49 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.719 Give us the overview for those who what do people 50 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.479 be thinking about? There's a lot of folks who listen 51 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.680 to my show in their twenties, thirties, forties, fifties. The 52 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.800 concept of Medicare probably hasn't crossed their minds recently, So 53 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.360 why should they What should they be thinking about? I 54 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:15.280 guess is my question. 55 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:22.159 First of all, Well, for sure, the Medicare is health 56 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:26.319 insurance for people who are sixty five and older. And 57 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.360 now we have in the cross fire of current events 58 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:35.840 with the Big Beautiful Bill, the idea of subsidized health insurance, 59 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.800 meaning that mass Health, for example, in Massachusetts, does a 60 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:43.599 good job of lowering health insurance premiums for people who 61 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.560 have to purchase health insurance for themselves, and that is 62 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.439 now the subject of debate as part of the Big 63 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:54.080 Beautiful Bill, and more directly to your question, as people 64 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:59.840 get older, they're preparing for retirement, perhaps early retirement if 65 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:03.960 they want or are required to. Then they're trying to 66 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:09.280 build a bridge, if you will, to Medicare when everything 67 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:13.759 becomes notably less expensive than if you have to buy 68 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.040 health insurance for yourself without any of these tax credits 69 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:19.279 that well. 70 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:24.279 For example, Medicare. For that matter, Medicaid, which is different 71 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.839 than Medicare, social Security, those are all under the big 72 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:33.680 umbrella of entitlements, but their entitlements that in most cases 73 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.439 people have paid over their lifetime in order to be 74 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:41.680 entitled to those benefits. And sure, I would hope that 75 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.519 you know social Security. They talk about Social Security changes. 76 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:46.959 I don't know if you're an expert in that, but 77 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:50.199 you probably know quite a bit about it. I don't 78 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:53.959 think they're going to cut the Social Security benefits. I 79 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.040 think they might push the retirement age out six months 80 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.319 or a year because Americans are living longer. What is 81 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.839 the danger to let's put Medicaid aside, which I think 82 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.560 is the most controversial issue. What should older Americans who 83 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.000 are going to rely have to rely upon Medicare? What 84 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.399 should they be? What are they concerned about in terms 85 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.560 of the big beautiful tax bill, so called big beautiful 86 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:19.040 tax bill. 87 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:24.240 Well, I think that, for example, the viability of Social 88 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:30.920 Security Medicare is still on solid footing. I realized that 89 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:36.000 it's I realized that it's very attractive to, you know, 90 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:40.439 try draw attention to these narratives that it's going bankrupt 91 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.680 or your benefits are going to be cut off. That 92 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.680 I don't. I would stop short of that conclusion. 93 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.279 Yeah, I think any political party who decided to cut 94 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.800 off Social Security of Medicare would be basically involved in 95 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:57.720 a circle firing squad which politicians may not be the 96 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.839 brightest mobs in the tree, but they get they get 97 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.959 to get that one Medicaid is going to have. I 98 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:07.199 think some potential cuts for people who are quote unquote 99 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:11.000 able body. But one of the things against this backdrop 100 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.319 that bothers me. And again, you're a financial guy. I 101 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.720 keep looking at that national debt that keeps going up. 102 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.360 And I'm a baby boomer, so I'm never going to 103 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.040 have to pay for the national debt, but my kids 104 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.600 and grandkids will. So with entitlements making up a substantial 105 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:34.800 portion of the federal budget, I've seen figures of you know, 106 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:42.680 seventy percent and around there. How can we provide all 107 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.680 the services that we've promised, meaning the government, and at 108 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:50.279 the same time get that debt down to if not manageable, 109 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:54.800 get it down to words zero. Can that be done realistically? 110 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:01.079 I think the path is narrow, to be candid with you. 111 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.519 Be difficult, difficult. 112 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.079 Because as you know, as you can see every day 113 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.800 and certainly over the past months, getting the toothpaste back 114 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:17.040 into the tube is difficult stuff. Like you rightly pointed out, 115 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:21.240 the elected officials high up on the priority list is 116 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:26.199 to be re elected. So to try to say you're 117 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:31.600 going to roll back benefits is a difficult task. So 118 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.519 now the question is how to manage that? And I 119 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:41.040 think I do think, however, that some of the questions 120 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:45.839 about Medicaid, which does affect For example, I've read a 121 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:50.040 statistic that something like more than two thirds of the 122 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:55.079 country will know someone firsthand who relies on Medicaid, which 123 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:00.480 is a tremendous number. You're talking about something like eighty 124 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.319 million people on medicaid. 125 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:04.519 That's twenty five percent of the population. 126 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.560 That's right, that's right, that's it insane. 127 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.720 And when you look at it, I mean, is a 128 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.680 very high number, very high number. And again, if everybody 129 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.720 legitimately deserves it, great, But if there are people who 130 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.279 are milking the system, milking the system, come on. That 131 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.519 money should be for people who really need it. That's 132 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:29.879 my philosophical base base of operations. I want. I don't 133 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.679 mind paying taxes, not thrilled about it, but I want 134 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:34.399 to make sure it goes to people who need the help. 135 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:44.440 And that is obstensibly what the reasoning for this able bodied. 136 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:50.919 Then that terminology that you used to regarding medicaid eligibility, 137 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:56.279 whether there's a standard that is consistent across the nation, 138 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.639 And to be candid with you, the answer to that 139 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:04.320 is probably know because of the fact of a very 140 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:10.039 very peculiar way of a combination of the way that 141 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:14.759 medicaid gets funded. Sure, meaning that in Massachusetts it's you know, 142 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.720 Method one, in Arkansas it'll be Method three. 143 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.080 Yep. There was a pre court decision today that I 144 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.000 think came down regarding those that that that very issue 145 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.519 that you're identifying. 146 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:32.679 And that creates all sorts of imbalances. So as a result, 147 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.639 what we've had, we've gone through a period past the pandemic, 148 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:41.799 where there's been something called Medicaid redetermination where that was 149 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.120 put on hold, whether or not the people who were 150 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:50.200 entitled to medicaid, that was that entire redetermination process was 151 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.679 put on posts that had restarted Massachusetts had completed more 152 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.360 more quickly than pretty much every state in the country. 153 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.039 But that's still ongoing now. And then on top of that, 154 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:08.519 we will it is yet to be seen what happens 155 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:12.840 through the big beautiful bill and what changes that might 156 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:17.879 bring to Medicaid redetermination. And that is not even including 157 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:23.960 those people who are benefiting from lower health insurance benefit, 158 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.240 lower health insurance premiums, lower deductibles, lower out of pocket 159 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.279 maximums through something called the Advanced Premium Tax Credit. 160 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:37.360 It's pretty it's pretty complicated, jaos, that's for sure. How 161 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.159 can folks get I know you said your book is 162 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.639 in every library, which is great. It's the twenty twenty 163 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:44.960 four to twenty five edition, so it's up to date. 164 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:48.759 If folks want to get that book for themselves. Is 165 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.480 it a tome like five pages or is it No? No, 166 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.320 it is readable, relatively readable. 167 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.600 I tried to make it relatively readable because I realized 168 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:03.960 that the population is not completely up to speed, and 169 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:08.440 it is the difficult thing about medicare and health insurance 170 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.000 is complicated because you've been relying on your employer for 171 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.159 most of the time, and now all of a sudden 172 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.720 you have to learn this new language. And in addition 173 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.759 to that, Medicare has this additional complication, which is the 174 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.639 some of the terminology looks the same, it doesn't work 175 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:24.799 exactly the same. 176 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.519 And whatever the government can do to complicate things, they're 177 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.600 really good at that. Jay Old, thank you very much. 178 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.120 The book Maximize Your Medicare available I assume through Amazon, 179 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:36.639 if I would assume. 180 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.639 Easy anywhere you can buy a book. 181 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.960 Anywhere you can buy this book, and everybody seems to 182 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:44.799 use Amazon these days. Thanks very much. Look, I appreciate 183 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.679 you taking the time to walk us through some very 184 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.399 complicated issues and some very difficult issues, and love to 185 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.039 have you back at some point. Thank you very much 186 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.159 for your time tonight. 187 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:55.679 My privilege, DN. 188 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:56.480 Thank you very much. 189 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.399 Beck At you we get back. We're going to give 190 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:02.679 you something that everyone's going to like. Fee waved Adoptathon 191 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.200 for dogs at the MSPCA. We're gonna be talking about 192 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:11.720 Jamie Garabedian. You can get a dog, no fees. This 193 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.799 is first of three summer adoption events. If you've ever 194 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.879 thought about getting a pal for around your house, ye 195 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.720 gotta stick with us. Coming back on Nightside right after this. 196 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:27.080 Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's News Radio. 197 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.600 Well, if you have ever thought about adopting a dog, 198 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:34.759 have I got a place for you to go with us? 199 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:40.159 Is Jamie Garabedian, project manager of the mspca's Angels Animal 200 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:44.120 Protection Division. And we are going to talk about a 201 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:49.600 fee waved, which means you save some money adoptethon for dogs. 202 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:55.240 My daughter adopted my favorite dog in the world, Corgi 203 00:12:55.799 --> 00:13:00.120 Mustard is his name, and it's amazing the great dogs 204 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.200 that are in shelters around Massachusetts. Hi, Jamie Garabedian, how 205 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:04.480 are you. 206 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.240 I'm good, how are you? Thanks for having me? 207 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.799 Well, I'll tell you my best friend in the world 208 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:10.960 right now is Mustard the. 209 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.360 Dog and great name? 210 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:15.879 Well, oh yeah, great and a great dog. Let me 211 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.559 tell you, so tell us about what people could do. 212 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:21.720 This is it this weekend? 213 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.000 It's this week it's running currently all the way through Sunday. 214 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.600 Okay, well that that includes this weekend. That's great? Uh? 215 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:33.480 And is it just uh uh in Boston or is 216 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:37.679 it in several locations. I know that MSPCA has several locations. 217 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.480 Yeah, is at all for mspc Angel shelters. So there's 218 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.559 one in Boston, in one in Salem, and one in 219 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.960 Centreville on Cape Cod. And then in addition to our location, 220 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.799 some of our MATHS coalition partners are joining as well. 221 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:55.360 So you can go to Berkshire Humane Society, Worcester Animal 222 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:59.720 Rescue League, Boston Animal Care and Control, Thomas J. O'Connor 223 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:03.679 and Animal Control and Adoption Center, and then Animal Protection 224 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.039 Center of Southeastern Massachusetts. So we pretty much have the 225 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.200 entire state covered. No matter where you live, there is 226 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:10.519 a shelter near Yeah. 227 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.440 And let's be clear, Massachusetts is not the size of 228 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:17.960 Alaska or Texas. So you got the entire that's for sure. Okay, 229 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.679 So what's the deal? What someone's listening right now and 230 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:23.480 they've said, you know, and I want to get a dog. 231 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.159 What do you have available? Yeah? Young dogs, older dogs, 232 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:33.279 big dogs, small dogs, all sorts of different sizes and shapes. 233 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.919 I assume all of the above. 234 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.559 You know, in shelters, typically we tend to see larger 235 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.720 breed dogs than smaller breed dogs. But that doesn't mean 236 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.399 we don't have any small dogs. So if you go 237 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:49.039 to MSPCA dot org flash dogs, you can find all 238 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:52.559 of the information about our open hours, the other locations 239 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.919 open hours, and how to see the dogs that are 240 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:56.840 available and how to come meet them. 241 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.399 Okay, so now can you sit at home. If you 242 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.279 go to the can you look up all the different 243 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:06.200 locations and see what dogs are available. Because if somebody's 244 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.960 looking for a Corgi, that was what my daughter wanted. 245 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:14.559 She found a Corgi at the Situate Animal Shelter. And 246 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.120 I'm telling you, this dog is like the smartest person 247 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:20.600 I know. I mean, trust me, way smarter than me. 248 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.399 Probably you're you're pretty close because you get you get 249 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:26.279 all of this through osmosis from the dogs with this 250 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:29.320 great dog. Great dog. He screened his foot last night 251 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.799 and when my daughter came home, he was sitting there 252 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:34.840 like holding his par up like a human body. He 253 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.159 send me the picture of them. Uh, and he's fine, 254 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:42.360 he's absolutely better. Yeah. I went to the went to 255 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:45.240 the vet and that said take him outside for a walk, 256 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:47.480 see how he's doing. Apparently he might have just I 257 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.080 don't know. Stubb is tallis I don't know? So how 258 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.080 how do people figure out Okay, they if you know, 259 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.279 how do they see the dogs? Do they have to 260 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:56.960 drive to each of the locations. 261 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:01.279 No, So if you go to that website www dot 262 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:05.000 MSPCA dot org slash dog kind of a landing page 263 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.559 with all the information it has links on there to 264 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.600 each location that's participating their open hours, how to see 265 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.600 their available dogs, and on our website, the MSPCA dogs 266 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:17.480 will be marked with a star, so they all know 267 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.879 which ones are part of the event by the star 268 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:20.799 on their profile. 269 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:26.879 Oh, that's great. And then normally the adoption fees not 270 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.200 this week. The balance of this week through the through 271 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:30.440 the weekend is through Sunday. 272 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.360 I assume yeah, through Sunday. 273 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:34.000 Normally. 274 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:34.440 What are the. 275 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:36.320 Adoption fees that will be waived this week? 276 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:36.519 What? 277 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.200 What? What? How much money is someone saving if they 278 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:42.639 adopt a dog by Saturday or Sunday as opposed to 279 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:43.919 waiting until the fourth of July. 280 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:49.440 Adoption fees range based on age across different organizations, but 281 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.080 I would say on average, you're saving about four hundred 282 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.120 dollars up an upfront adoption fee. 283 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.279 Wow. Wow, that's a deal. 284 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:58.120 Yes, it is. 285 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.279 That's a great deal. And you there were young dogs, 286 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:06.079 old dogs, just about every possible combination, uh is there? 287 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.519 And look, you probably know I end my shows with 288 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.000 every night with this phrase, All dogs, all cats, all 289 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:17.759 pets go to Heaven. And I truly do believe that 290 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:25.799 because dogs particularly the best. They're just they're more loyal 291 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:26.599 than any friend. 292 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:31.160 They ie, they're the kindest beings. 293 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.079 They are they are you know, they don't they never 294 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.200 talk back you. Sometimes you get into an argument with 295 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:40.279 one of your kids or with your spouse or something 296 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.960 like that. Uh, and somebody's noses how to joint for 297 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.839 the dog. Dogs just want to be with this one 298 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.240 to hang. That's all. They're the perfect companion, I'm telling you. 299 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.799 And also you know this, You know what the word 300 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:53.359 dog spelled backwards? Is? 301 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:55.680 They sure do? 302 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:56.759 God? 303 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:57.400 God? 304 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:01.799 Yes. So that's that's why I think are wonderful. And 305 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.119 thanks so much again. Give us the website because hopefully 306 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:06.480 we've got some people who are going to go to 307 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.119 the website right now and look around. 308 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.759 What is the website to start with, It's www dot 309 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.720 MSPCA dot org slash dogs and again it's fee waves 310 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:20.279 for any dog over the age of one year at 311 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.440 not only all four of our adoption centers, but many 312 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.119 of our partners across the entire states. No matter where 313 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:27.960 you live, there is a shelter near you that is 314 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:28.559 waving fees. 315 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.839 Perfect and just a little tip that old www stuff 316 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.880 you don't really need it anymore. If you just put 317 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:41.000 in MSPCA dot org org slash dogs, that'll get you there. 318 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:46.440 Trust me on that. Okay, Thanks, Thanks Jamie, Thanks really appreciated. 319 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:51.119 The project manager of the mspca's Angels Animal Protection Division. 320 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.000 Thank you for the work you do. Thank you, I 321 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.519 mean that, thanks for having me. Very welcome. Talk to 322 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.000 you soon when we get back. We're going to talk 323 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.960 kind of similar The JFK Presidential Library is about to 324 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:06.160 open a new presidential exhibit talking about the various pets 325 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:10.559 who have occupied the White House. Sometimes I've liked the 326 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:13.119 pets better than the presidents. To be really honest with you, 327 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.839 we'll be back on Nightside right after the news talking 328 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.079 more about this time we're going to be talking about pets, 329 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.880 just not dogs. We'll broaden the conversation right after this. 330 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.160 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 331 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:27.799 Boston's news radio. 332 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:30.519 Well, we have some good news for those of you 333 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:35.920 who are interested in presidential politics. And also they're K 334 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.559 nine and feline friends with us is Alan Price. He's 335 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:44.000 the library director of the JFK Presidential Library. Alan Price, 336 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:45.480 Welcome to Nightside. How are you, sir. 337 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:48.400 I'm terrific. Thanks, it's good to be with you. 338 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:54.559 I knew the Presidential Library and its contents before it 339 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:58.799 became a presidential library. I used to spend some time 340 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:03.240 with Dave Powers we at the Federal Records Center over 341 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:05.440 on Tripella Road in Belmont. Oh. 342 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.920 That's marvelous. Thank you for mentioning. 343 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.559 That everything, all of the items that were held in 344 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:13.359 Carrol's I don't know if you ever seen any of 345 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:15.880 the pictures. I'm sure you're probably too young to remember that, 346 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.960 but David photographs. There was a deer and a great friend, 347 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:21.680 and I was in law school at the time, and 348 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.000 I would go over there just to get a break 349 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:26.519 from law school, and we'd walk through the library and 350 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.319 we'd show me different artifacts up close and personal and 351 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:34.799 everything from the coconut that President Kennedy used to signal 352 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:39.240 for some help after his ship was torpedoed in World 353 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.519 War Two, to so many other things, and of course 354 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.839 they're all on display, but I never saw any sort 355 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:50.839 of pets exhibit in the carols of the Federal Records 356 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.920 Center out out in Belmont. But right now, I guess 357 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:58.759 you folks are opening up a new exhibit dealing with 358 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:02.759 not only pets that might have been in the White 359 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:07.359 House during the thirty fifth president's term there sadly shortened 360 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:13.799 mine assassin's bullet, but residents going back, animal residence going 361 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.799 back quite a ways, and it starts on July first. 362 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:19.240 Tell us about it, Allen, Well, I'm so glad you 363 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.559 brought up that history. And yes, we have twenty million 364 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:28.440 paper documents and thirty thousand artifacts, but we have a 365 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:33.039 special exhibit now on presidential pets, and of course the 366 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.680 Kennedy's had many pets, and so we spend some good 367 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.680 time on that. But we also have a total of 368 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:42.319 twenty two presidents represented all the way back to George Washington, 369 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:46.079 and you can see the history of pet ownership and 370 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:50.160 how they went from service animals and working animals to 371 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.000 members of the family, how the notion of pet ownership 372 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.319 changed over the years, and you can see how pets 373 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:01.519 were very important keeping even President Kennedy during the height 374 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:06.119 of the Cuban missile crisis keeping him calm. You know, 375 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.880 pats are very important friends during difficult times, and the 376 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:11.759 presidency can be a lonely job. 377 00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:15.960 Exhibit that if you want a friend in Washington, I 378 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:17.440 think it might have been Truman that said that. I'm 379 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.759 not sure, but if you want a friend, washing to 380 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:20.119 get a. 381 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.359 Dog, that's correct. 382 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.640 Now. President Kennedy had a dog with which was a 383 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:28.160 gift from Nikita Krushchev. 384 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:36.079 Yes, Pushinka, Yes, Pushinka's parents went up in space. Pashenka 385 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:38.960 is a puppy that came from that litter, and Chris 386 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.920 Cheff presented it to the Kennedys and it was I mean, 387 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:46.240 Pushenka is adorable and photogenic, and everybody wanted to spend 388 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:49.880 time with Pashenka. And of course there were security concerns. 389 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.519 People were worried that the dog would be electronically bugged 390 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.240 or radioactive, and so there's a whole Cold War intrigue 391 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:57.759 to the dog. 392 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:00.480 At the same time, or reporting back to directly to 393 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:05.279 Moscow every day by a teletype or something whatever. Only 394 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.400 joking on that one, if I'm not mistaken. Caroline Kennedy 395 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.319 had a horse called Macaroni. 396 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.440 Yes, there are at least three ponies that I'm aware 397 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.880 of the carolines was macaroni, and they were on the 398 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:22.039 covers of magazines. And you can take a look at 399 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:27.119 all the photos of macaroni and the actual saddle and 400 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.519 bridle that were used on macaroni. 401 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:33.039