Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy
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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Madison. The weather seems a lot nicer tonight.
Speaker 2: I mean it's not perfect, don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 2: it's a lot nicer tonight than it has been the
Speaker 2: last couple of nights. Wherever you are here in New England,
Speaker 2: hopefully it's a little more cool than it was the
Speaker 2: last couple of nights. My name is Dan Ray. Rob
Speaker 2: Brooks is the producer of the program. He's back at
Speaker 2: broadcast headquarters Central at the iHeart Brain Trust Brain He's
Speaker 2: where it's all happening. I'm simply a guy out here
Speaker 2: somewhere in a bunker doing my show remotely. Anyway. My
Speaker 2: name is Dan Ray, and as I said, I'm the
Speaker 2: host of Nights Side, and we have some interesting guests
Speaker 2: coming up tonight. We're going to talk with Boston Globe
Speaker 2: opinion columnist Kareine Hajar about that mayoral race in New
Speaker 2: York earlier this week. Very interesting development in that race,
Speaker 2: So long to Andrew Cuomo. We'll also talk about some
Speaker 2: comments made by a congressman up here, Congressman Auchincloss, who
Speaker 2: points out that there's a lot of stores he goes
Speaker 2: into where things now are locked up lock and key,
Speaker 2: and in order to get maybe a tube of toothpaste
Speaker 2: or a bottle of hair shampoo, you have to get
Speaker 2: the clerk to unlock the locked up area. And he
Speaker 2: feels that is enduring to the detriment of him and
Speaker 2: his fellow Democrats. And they will also talk about a
Speaker 2: news conference this morning in which the Pentagon, led by
Speaker 2: the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff US Air
Speaker 2: Force General Dan Kin, who provided a lot of information
Speaker 2: about those strikes on the nuclear sites in Iran over
Speaker 2: the weekend. But first off, we have our four guests
Speaker 2: this hour, and we're going to start off with a
Speaker 2: certified financial planner and education fellow had a group called
Speaker 2: Alliance for Lifetime Income. It's a nonprofit that educates the
Speaker 2: public but the value of guaranteed lifetime income during retirement,
Speaker 2: which of course includes smart healthcare cost planning. My guest
Speaker 2: is named jo Jay. Welcome to Nightside, and thank you
Speaker 2: very much for having me tonight. So your focus is medicare,
Speaker 2: I believe, is that correct.
Speaker 3: I have a book I've published book IF called Maximizer Medicare.
Speaker 3: It sits in most of the largest library systems throughout
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I assume people could also probably get that
Speaker 2: book through Amazon dot Com or something like that, and
Speaker 2: we can talk about that a little bit later. Most
Speaker 2: people assume that Medicare will be there upon their retirement
Speaker 2: and they no longer are covered by the insurance of
Speaker 2: perhaps the company or the government system where they work.
Speaker 2: Give us the overview for those who what do people
Speaker 2: be thinking about? There's a lot of folks who listen
Speaker 2: to my show in their twenties, thirties, forties, fifties. The
Speaker 2: concept of Medicare probably hasn't crossed their minds recently, So
Speaker 2: why should they What should they be thinking about? I
Speaker 2: guess is my question.
Speaker 3: First of all, Well, for sure, the Medicare is health
Speaker 3: insurance for people who are sixty five and older. And
Speaker 3: now we have in the cross fire of current events
Speaker 3: with the Big Beautiful Bill, the idea of subsidized health insurance,
Speaker 3: meaning that mass Health, for example, in Massachusetts, does a
Speaker 3: good job of lowering health insurance premiums for people who
Speaker 3: have to purchase health insurance for themselves, and that is
Speaker 3: now the subject of debate as part of the Big
Speaker 3: Beautiful Bill, and more directly to your question, as people
Speaker 3: get older, they're preparing for retirement, perhaps early retirement if
Speaker 3: they want or are required to. Then they're trying to
Speaker 3: build a bridge, if you will, to Medicare when everything
Speaker 3: becomes notably less expensive than if you have to buy
Speaker 3: health insurance for yourself without any of these tax credits
Speaker 3: that well.
Speaker 2: For example, Medicare. For that matter, Medicaid, which is different
Speaker 2: than Medicare, social Security, those are all under the big
Speaker 2: umbrella of entitlements, but their entitlements that in most cases
Speaker 2: people have paid over their lifetime in order to be
Speaker 2: entitled to those benefits. And sure, I would hope that
Speaker 2: you know social Security. They talk about Social Security changes.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're an expert in that, but
Speaker 2: you probably know quite a bit about it. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to cut the Social Security benefits. I
Speaker 2: think they might push the retirement age out six months
Speaker 2: or a year because Americans are living longer. What is
Speaker 2: the danger to let's put Medicaid aside, which I think
Speaker 2: is the most controversial issue. What should older Americans who
Speaker 2: are going to rely have to rely upon Medicare? What
Speaker 2: should they be? What are they concerned about in terms
Speaker 2: of the big beautiful tax bill, so called big beautiful
Speaker 2: tax bill.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that, for example, the viability of Social
Speaker 3: Security Medicare is still on solid footing. I realized that
Speaker 3: it's I realized that it's very attractive to, you know,
Speaker 3: try draw attention to these narratives that it's going bankrupt
Speaker 3: or your benefits are going to be cut off. That
Speaker 3: I don't. I would stop short of that conclusion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think any political party who decided to cut
Speaker 2: off Social Security of Medicare would be basically involved in
Speaker 2: a circle firing squad which politicians may not be the
Speaker 2: brightest mobs in the tree, but they get they get
Speaker 2: to get that one Medicaid is going to have. I
Speaker 2: think some potential cuts for people who are quote unquote
Speaker 2: able body. But one of the things against this backdrop
Speaker 2: that bothers me. And again, you're a financial guy. I
Speaker 2: keep looking at that national debt that keeps going up.
Speaker 2: And I'm a baby boomer, so I'm never going to
Speaker 2: have to pay for the national debt, but my kids
Speaker 2: and grandkids will. So with entitlements making up a substantial
Speaker 2: portion of the federal budget, I've seen figures of you know,
Speaker 2: seventy percent and around there. How can we provide all
Speaker 2: the services that we've promised, meaning the government, and at
Speaker 2: the same time get that debt down to if not manageable,
Speaker 2: get it down to words zero. Can that be done realistically?
Speaker 3: I think the path is narrow, to be candid with you.
Speaker 2: Be difficult, difficult.
Speaker 3: Because as you know, as you can see every day
Speaker 3: and certainly over the past months, getting the toothpaste back
Speaker 3: into the tube is difficult stuff. Like you rightly pointed out,
Speaker 3: the elected officials high up on the priority list is
Speaker 3: to be re elected. So to try to say you're
Speaker 3: going to roll back benefits is a difficult task. So
Speaker 3: now the question is how to manage that? And I
Speaker 3: think I do think, however, that some of the questions
Speaker 3: about Medicaid, which does affect For example, I've read a
Speaker 3: statistic that something like more than two thirds of the
Speaker 3: country will know someone firsthand who relies on Medicaid, which
Speaker 3: is a tremendous number. You're talking about something like eighty
Speaker 3: million people on medicaid.
Speaker 2: That's twenty five percent of the population.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, that's it insane.
Speaker 2: And when you look at it, I mean, is a
Speaker 2: very high number, very high number. And again, if everybody
Speaker 2: legitimately deserves it, great, But if there are people who
Speaker 2: are milking the system, milking the system, come on. That
Speaker 2: money should be for people who really need it. That's
Speaker 2: my philosophical base base of operations. I want. I don't
Speaker 2: mind paying taxes, not thrilled about it, but I want
Speaker 2: to make sure it goes to people who need the help.
Speaker 3: And that is obstensibly what the reasoning for this able bodied.
Speaker 3: Then that terminology that you used to regarding medicaid eligibility,
Speaker 3: whether there's a standard that is consistent across the nation,
Speaker 3: And to be candid with you, the answer to that
Speaker 3: is probably know because of the fact of a very
Speaker 3: very peculiar way of a combination of the way that
Speaker 3: medicaid gets funded. Sure, meaning that in Massachusetts it's you know,
Speaker 3: Method one, in Arkansas it'll be Method three.
Speaker 2: Yep. There was a pre court decision today that I
Speaker 2: think came down regarding those that that that very issue
Speaker 2: that you're identifying.
Speaker 3: And that creates all sorts of imbalances. So as a result,
Speaker 3: what we've had, we've gone through a period past the pandemic,
Speaker 3: where there's been something called Medicaid redetermination where that was
Speaker 3: put on hold, whether or not the people who were
Speaker 3: entitled to medicaid, that was that entire redetermination process was
Speaker 3: put on posts that had restarted Massachusetts had completed more
Speaker 3: more quickly than pretty much every state in the country.
Speaker 3: But that's still ongoing now. And then on top of that,
Speaker 3: we will it is yet to be seen what happens
Speaker 3: through the big beautiful bill and what changes that might
Speaker 3: bring to Medicaid redetermination. And that is not even including
Speaker 3: those people who are benefiting from lower health insurance benefit,
Speaker 3: lower health insurance premiums, lower deductibles, lower out of pocket
Speaker 3: maximums through something called the Advanced Premium Tax Credit.
Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty complicated, jaos, that's for sure. How
Speaker 2: can folks get I know you said your book is
Speaker 2: in every library, which is great. It's the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four to twenty five edition, so it's up to date.
Speaker 2: If folks want to get that book for themselves. Is
Speaker 2: it a tome like five pages or is it No? No,
Speaker 2: it is readable, relatively readable.
Speaker 3: I tried to make it relatively readable because I realized
Speaker 3: that the population is not completely up to speed, and
Speaker 3: it is the difficult thing about medicare and health insurance
Speaker 3: is complicated because you've been relying on your employer for
Speaker 3: most of the time, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 3: you have to learn this new language. And in addition
Speaker 3: to that, Medicare has this additional complication, which is the
Speaker 3: some of the terminology looks the same, it doesn't work
Speaker 3: exactly the same.
Speaker 2: And whatever the government can do to complicate things, they're
Speaker 2: really good at that. Jay Old, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: The book Maximize Your Medicare available I assume through Amazon,
Speaker 2: if I would assume.
Speaker 3: Easy anywhere you can buy a book.
Speaker 2: Anywhere you can buy this book, and everybody seems to
Speaker 2: use Amazon these days. Thanks very much. Look, I appreciate
Speaker 2: you taking the time to walk us through some very
Speaker 2: complicated issues and some very difficult issues, and love to
Speaker 2: have you back at some point. Thank you very much
Speaker 2: for your time tonight.
Speaker 3: My privilege, DN.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Beck At you we get back. We're going to give
Speaker 2: you something that everyone's going to like. Fee waved Adoptathon
Speaker 2: for dogs at the MSPCA. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 2: Jamie Garabedian. You can get a dog, no fees. This
Speaker 2: is first of three summer adoption events. If you've ever
Speaker 2: thought about getting a pal for around your house, ye
Speaker 2: gotta stick with us. Coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, if you have ever thought about adopting a dog,
Speaker 2: have I got a place for you to go with us?
Speaker 2: Is Jamie Garabedian, project manager of the mspca's Angels Animal
Speaker 2: Protection Division. And we are going to talk about a
Speaker 2: fee waved, which means you save some money adoptethon for dogs.
Speaker 2: My daughter adopted my favorite dog in the world, Corgi
Speaker 2: Mustard is his name, and it's amazing the great dogs
Speaker 2: that are in shelters around Massachusetts. Hi, Jamie Garabedian, how
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 5: I'm good, how are you? Thanks for having me?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you my best friend in the world
Speaker 2: right now is Mustard the.
Speaker 5: Dog and great name?
Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, great and a great dog. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you, so tell us about what people could do.
Speaker 2: This is it this weekend?
Speaker 5: It's this week it's running currently all the way through Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that that includes this weekend. That's great? Uh?
Speaker 2: And is it just uh uh in Boston or is
Speaker 2: it in several locations. I know that MSPCA has several locations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, is at all for mspc Angel shelters. So there's
Speaker 5: one in Boston, in one in Salem, and one in
Speaker 5: Centreville on Cape Cod. And then in addition to our location,
Speaker 5: some of our MATHS coalition partners are joining as well.
Speaker 5: So you can go to Berkshire Humane Society, Worcester Animal
Speaker 5: Rescue League, Boston Animal Care and Control, Thomas J. O'Connor
Speaker 5: and Animal Control and Adoption Center, and then Animal Protection
Speaker 5: Center of Southeastern Massachusetts. So we pretty much have the
Speaker 5: entire state covered. No matter where you live, there is
Speaker 5: a shelter near Yeah.
Speaker 2: And let's be clear, Massachusetts is not the size of
Speaker 2: Alaska or Texas. So you got the entire that's for sure. Okay,
Speaker 2: So what's the deal? What someone's listening right now and
Speaker 2: they've said, you know, and I want to get a dog.
Speaker 2: What do you have available? Yeah? Young dogs, older dogs,
Speaker 2: big dogs, small dogs, all sorts of different sizes and shapes.
Speaker 1: I assume all of the above.
Speaker 5: You know, in shelters, typically we tend to see larger
Speaker 5: breed dogs than smaller breed dogs. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 5: we don't have any small dogs. So if you go
Speaker 5: to MSPCA dot org flash dogs, you can find all
Speaker 5: of the information about our open hours, the other locations
Speaker 5: open hours, and how to see the dogs that are
Speaker 5: available and how to come meet them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now can you sit at home. If you
Speaker 2: go to the can you look up all the different
Speaker 2: locations and see what dogs are available. Because if somebody's
Speaker 2: looking for a Corgi, that was what my daughter wanted.
Speaker 2: She found a Corgi at the Situate Animal Shelter. And
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this dog is like the smartest person
Speaker 2: I know. I mean, trust me, way smarter than me.
Speaker 2: Probably you're you're pretty close because you get you get
Speaker 2: all of this through osmosis from the dogs with this
Speaker 2: great dog. Great dog. He screened his foot last night
Speaker 2: and when my daughter came home, he was sitting there
Speaker 2: like holding his par up like a human body. He
Speaker 2: send me the picture of them. Uh, and he's fine,
Speaker 2: he's absolutely better. Yeah. I went to the went to
Speaker 2: the vet and that said take him outside for a walk,
Speaker 2: see how he's doing. Apparently he might have just I
Speaker 2: don't know. Stubb is tallis I don't know? So how
Speaker 2: how do people figure out Okay, they if you know,
Speaker 2: how do they see the dogs? Do they have to
Speaker 2: drive to each of the locations.
Speaker 5: No, So if you go to that website www dot
Speaker 5: MSPCA dot org slash dog kind of a landing page
Speaker 5: with all the information it has links on there to
Speaker 5: each location that's participating their open hours, how to see
Speaker 5: their available dogs, and on our website, the MSPCA dogs
Speaker 5: will be marked with a star, so they all know
Speaker 5: which ones are part of the event by the star
Speaker 5: on their profile.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. And then normally the adoption fees not
Speaker 2: this week. The balance of this week through the through
Speaker 2: the weekend is through Sunday.
Speaker 5: I assume yeah, through Sunday.
Speaker 2: Normally.
Speaker 4: What are the.
Speaker 2: Adoption fees that will be waived this week?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What? What? How much money is someone saving if they
Speaker 2: adopt a dog by Saturday or Sunday as opposed to
Speaker 2: waiting until the fourth of July.
Speaker 5: Adoption fees range based on age across different organizations, but
Speaker 5: I would say on average, you're saving about four hundred
Speaker 5: dollars up an upfront adoption fee.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's a deal.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: That's a great deal. And you there were young dogs,
Speaker 2: old dogs, just about every possible combination, uh is there?
Speaker 2: And look, you probably know I end my shows with
Speaker 2: every night with this phrase, All dogs, all cats, all
Speaker 2: pets go to Heaven. And I truly do believe that
Speaker 2: because dogs particularly the best. They're just they're more loyal
Speaker 2: than any friend.
Speaker 5: They ie, they're the kindest beings.
Speaker 2: They are they are you know, they don't they never
Speaker 2: talk back you. Sometimes you get into an argument with
Speaker 2: one of your kids or with your spouse or something
Speaker 2: like that. Uh, and somebody's noses how to joint for
Speaker 2: the dog. Dogs just want to be with this one
Speaker 2: to hang. That's all. They're the perfect companion, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: And also you know this, You know what the word
Speaker 2: dog spelled backwards? Is?
Speaker 5: They sure do?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 5: God?
Speaker 2: Yes. So that's that's why I think are wonderful. And
Speaker 2: thanks so much again. Give us the website because hopefully
Speaker 2: we've got some people who are going to go to
Speaker 2: the website right now and look around.
Speaker 5: What is the website to start with, It's www dot
Speaker 5: MSPCA dot org slash dogs and again it's fee waves
Speaker 5: for any dog over the age of one year at
Speaker 5: not only all four of our adoption centers, but many
Speaker 5: of our partners across the entire states. No matter where
Speaker 5: you live, there is a shelter near you that is
Speaker 5: waving fees.
Speaker 2: Perfect and just a little tip that old www stuff
Speaker 2: you don't really need it anymore. If you just put
Speaker 2: in MSPCA dot org org slash dogs, that'll get you there.
Speaker 2: Trust me on that. Okay, Thanks, Thanks Jamie, Thanks really appreciated.
Speaker 2: The project manager of the mspca's Angels Animal Protection Division.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the work you do. Thank you, I
Speaker 2: mean that, thanks for having me. Very welcome. Talk to
Speaker 2: you soon when we get back. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: kind of similar The JFK Presidential Library is about to
Speaker 2: open a new presidential exhibit talking about the various pets
Speaker 2: who have occupied the White House. Sometimes I've liked the
Speaker 2: pets better than the presidents. To be really honest with you,
Speaker 2: we'll be back on Nightside right after the news talking
Speaker 2: more about this time we're going to be talking about pets,
Speaker 2: just not dogs. We'll broaden the conversation right after this.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, we have some good news for those of you
Speaker 2: who are interested in presidential politics. And also they're K
Speaker 2: nine and feline friends with us is Alan Price. He's
Speaker 2: the library director of the JFK Presidential Library. Alan Price,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you, sir.
Speaker 4: I'm terrific. Thanks, it's good to be with you.
Speaker 2: I knew the Presidential Library and its contents before it
Speaker 2: became a presidential library. I used to spend some time
Speaker 2: with Dave Powers we at the Federal Records Center over
Speaker 2: on Tripella Road in Belmont. Oh.
Speaker 4: That's marvelous. Thank you for mentioning.
Speaker 2: That everything, all of the items that were held in
Speaker 2: Carrol's I don't know if you ever seen any of
Speaker 2: the pictures. I'm sure you're probably too young to remember that,
Speaker 2: but David photographs. There was a deer and a great friend,
Speaker 2: and I was in law school at the time, and
Speaker 2: I would go over there just to get a break
Speaker 2: from law school, and we'd walk through the library and
Speaker 2: we'd show me different artifacts up close and personal and
Speaker 2: everything from the coconut that President Kennedy used to signal
Speaker 2: for some help after his ship was torpedoed in World
Speaker 2: War Two, to so many other things, and of course
Speaker 2: they're all on display, but I never saw any sort
Speaker 2: of pets exhibit in the carols of the Federal Records
Speaker 2: Center out out in Belmont. But right now, I guess
Speaker 2: you folks are opening up a new exhibit dealing with
Speaker 2: not only pets that might have been in the White
Speaker 2: House during the thirty fifth president's term there sadly shortened
Speaker 2: mine assassin's bullet, but residents going back, animal residence going
Speaker 2: back quite a ways, and it starts on July first.
Speaker 4: Tell us about it, Allen, Well, I'm so glad you
Speaker 4: brought up that history. And yes, we have twenty million
Speaker 4: paper documents and thirty thousand artifacts, but we have a
Speaker 4: special exhibit now on presidential pets, and of course the
Speaker 4: Kennedy's had many pets, and so we spend some good
Speaker 4: time on that. But we also have a total of
Speaker 4: twenty two presidents represented all the way back to George Washington,
Speaker 4: and you can see the history of pet ownership and
Speaker 4: how they went from service animals and working animals to
Speaker 4: members of the family, how the notion of pet ownership
Speaker 4: changed over the years, and you can see how pets
Speaker 4: were very important keeping even President Kennedy during the height
Speaker 4: of the Cuban missile crisis keeping him calm. You know,
Speaker 4: pats are very important friends during difficult times, and the
Speaker 4: presidency can be a lonely job.
Speaker 2: Exhibit that if you want a friend in Washington, I
Speaker 2: think it might have been Truman that said that. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, but if you want a friend, washing to
Speaker 2: get a.
Speaker 4: Dog, that's correct.
Speaker 2: Now. President Kennedy had a dog with which was a
Speaker 2: gift from Nikita Krushchev.
Speaker 4: Yes, Pushinka, Yes, Pushinka's parents went up in space. Pashenka
Speaker 4: is a puppy that came from that litter, and Chris
Speaker 4: Cheff presented it to the Kennedys and it was I mean,
Speaker 4: Pushenka is adorable and photogenic, and everybody wanted to spend
Speaker 4: time with Pashenka. And of course there were security concerns.
Speaker 4: People were worried that the dog would be electronically bugged
Speaker 4: or radioactive, and so there's a whole Cold War intrigue
Speaker 4: to the dog.
Speaker 2: At the same time, or reporting back to directly to
Speaker 2: Moscow every day by a teletype or something whatever. Only
Speaker 2: joking on that one, if I'm not mistaken. Caroline Kennedy
Speaker 2: had a horse called Macaroni.
Speaker 4: Yes, there are at least three ponies that I'm aware
Speaker 4: of the carolines was macaroni, and they were on the
Speaker 4: covers of magazines. And you can take a look at
Speaker 4: all the photos of macaroni and the actual saddle and
Speaker 4: bridle that were used on macaroni.
Speaker 2: Yeah, macaroni is not highlighted. I did pick up some
Speaker 2: information from your press release, but that one I pulled
Speaker 2: out of my compendium of useless information that I have
Speaker 2: stored in my brain. One of the pictures in the
Speaker 2: press release that caught my eye was a picture of
Speaker 2: First Lady Grace Coolidge and Rebella. Yes, Rebecca looked like
Speaker 2: a fairly exotic animal. What's the story with Rebecca a raccoon?
Speaker 4: And yes, Grace Coolidge had Rebecca the raccoon. You know
Speaker 4: a lot of photo ops, but you shouldn't startle the
Speaker 4: raccoon because the raccoon could bite people who startled the raccoons. Yes,
Speaker 4: and Grace would say, you know, wild animals don't startle it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this was said according to your press release. Here,
Speaker 2: I always wanted to attribute to the Coolidge White House
Speaker 2: for the President's Thanksgiving dinner. Now, did someone send him
Speaker 2: a raccoon for the raccoon to be a guest at
Speaker 2: the dinner, or to be actually part of the dinner.
Speaker 4: Yet, I will say personally, I'm not so sure. But
Speaker 4: it's amazing the number of pets that were gifted to
Speaker 4: presidents over time, many of whom never kept the pet,
Speaker 4: but simply referred them to the zoo because they were
Speaker 4: too exotic.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the pets that most recent vintage was
Speaker 2: the German shepherd that bids some of the secret servicemen.
Speaker 4: In the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: Yeh, I think I think the Biden administration led all
Speaker 2: of the presidencies with animal bites.
Speaker 4: I mean it's possible, It's possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what when is that? This is going to start
Speaker 2: on July first? Correct if I'm not mistaken?
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is this included with a normal visit? Is it part
Speaker 2: of the regular admission or is it a separate admission.
Speaker 4: It's part of the regular admission, and you can see,
Speaker 4: of course, the life and legacy of President Kennedy and
Speaker 4: then in a separate space. It's really wonderfully done. You
Speaker 4: wouldn't You couldn't possibly have more fun in a museum.
Speaker 4: You will learn all about the presidential pets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean only if you had a barrel full
Speaker 2: of monkeys, That's that's what you'd need to top it off.
Speaker 2: But I don't think there is a barrel full of
Speaker 2: monkeys involved here. Yeah, no, it's it's great to you know,
Speaker 2: talking about McCarney Caroline one of Caroline Kennedy's ponies. I
Speaker 2: see again in your press release. I did not know
Speaker 2: this that Teddy Roosevelt, great outdoorsman, had a pony named Algonquin.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize they had an elevator in the
Speaker 2: White House when Roosevelt was president. But the pony got
Speaker 2: to ride the elevator.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's true. Roosevelt had so many pets. It's
Speaker 4: really remarkable. He was a great, you know, outdoorsman and
Speaker 4: loved animals of all kinds. And he received many more
Speaker 4: pets as gifts than he could actually keep at the
Speaker 4: White House. So he was one who referred many to
Speaker 4: the local zoo. But his collection of pets is extraordinary,
Speaker 4: and I think he really meaningfully interacted with all of them.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm a big fan of the library.
Speaker 2: I actually did the live I was we broadcast the
Speaker 2: opening ceremonies, so the opening day back in October of
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, a day that I will never never forget.
Speaker 4: Oh that's remarkable.
Speaker 2: You probably weren't even born then, but.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's probable that I may be the
Speaker 4: last library director who actually lived during President Kennedy's lifetime,
Speaker 4: though I was only six months old when he passed.
Speaker 2: Really okay, well you sound young, and that's good. That
Speaker 2: is good.
Speaker 4: That is also I'll try to keep that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm totally serious, you know, talking about Coolidge.
Speaker 2: Coolidge grave is in Vermont, down a little side road,
Speaker 2: and it's not all that impressive. But I just fascinated
Speaker 2: by Coolidge because obviously he he spent time here in
Speaker 2: Massachusetts as governor, but is interred in Vermont, Plymouth, Vermont,
Speaker 2: and I remember walking over by his grave one day,
Speaker 2: and as you can see, I'm kind of his street geek,
Speaker 2: and it was very unimpressive, and I just thought he
Speaker 2: was just on the side of a road in a
Speaker 2: little little town cemetery in Plymouth, Plymouth, Notch, New Hampshire,
Speaker 2: and kind of spoke a little bit about his presidency.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was fairly simple. It was a simpler
Speaker 2: time in America, you know, coming up there. Yeah, one
Speaker 2: hundred years, one hundred years from now. We probably he
Speaker 2: would have been president at this point one hundred years ago,
Speaker 2: now that I think about it.
Speaker 4: Right right, right, yeah, And the Presidential Library System doesn't
Speaker 4: come up until FDR creates it and he backdates it
Speaker 4: to Hoover. But it's much harder to access the history
Speaker 4: of prior presidents.
Speaker 2: Alan, I really enjoyed chatting with you. Sound like a
Speaker 2: great library director. And as they say, I spent many
Speaker 2: many days with my friend Dave Powers, and he was
Speaker 2: he was just a compendium of valuable information. I'm a
Speaker 2: compendium of useless information. But it was quite bad. Quite
Speaker 2: a guy. And sometime I get the library, I want
Speaker 2: to look you up. Okay, thanks, Alan, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Well, let me know when you're here. I'll show you
Speaker 4: a few things.
Speaker 2: I promise I will. Thanks Alan, we'll talk again, Alan Price,
Speaker 2: you take care the library Director of the JFK Presidential Library.
Speaker 2: Thanks again. When we get back, we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the Northeast ARC and they're offering free swimming lessons
Speaker 2: to children six months in older. And this is a
Speaker 2: program called through the Saving Lives Swim Program. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk with Joeanne Simon's president and CEO of Northeast
Speaker 2: ARC Organization. I'm very familiar with They do great work.
Speaker 2: And we'll be talking with joe Inn right after the
Speaker 2: break here on Night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dany Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right. I think all of us are familiar with
Speaker 2: the various arcs around the Commonwealth. Joanne Simmons is very
Speaker 2: familiar with the arcs because Joeanne is the president and
Speaker 2: CEO of the Northeast ARC and they have a swimming
Speaker 2: program up there which is available for kids as young
Speaker 2: as six months old. Joanne, welcome to Night sid How
Speaker 2: are you hey?
Speaker 6: Good, good evenings then, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. So tell us about the swimming, the swimming program.
Speaker 2: I was unaware that you were doing this.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to tell you how it came out.
Speaker 6: Is that you may not be aware that drowning is
Speaker 6: the leading cause of death for children with autism, and
Speaker 6: just last summer in this country, over twenty six children
Speaker 6: with autism drowned, and most under the age of There.
Speaker 2: Was a story. It was a story in one of
Speaker 2: the local newscasts tonight about a little boy eight years
Speaker 2: old who I believe is dealing with Did you see
Speaker 2: that story.
Speaker 6: Tragedy in Clinton? Little boy eight years old with autism
Speaker 6: who is nonverbal wandered, which is very common with children
Speaker 6: with actism. Of them wander they have anxiety and to
Speaker 6: deal with their anxiety, wandering often a release to them
Speaker 6: and they're attracted to water. And unfortunately, the tragedy that
Speaker 6: unfolded in in Clinton was not the first one of
Speaker 6: this kind, and it made us realize that there was
Speaker 6: something that we could do as a leading provider of
Speaker 6: services to people with disabilities and autism. We've developed a
Speaker 6: program that will pay for swimming lessons for any child
Speaker 6: birth to three that are in our early intervention programs,
Speaker 6: which we operate in many cities, in towns in the
Speaker 6: North Shore and cay Van. And we're doing this because
Speaker 6: we think the most important thing you could do is
Speaker 6: save a life and financial means should not be a
Speaker 6: barrier for a child to learn to swim.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, if I could, is
Speaker 2: this available for children who have been dying gnosed with
Speaker 2: autism or for any child between those.
Speaker 6: Ages, Well, any child who's in an early intervention program
Speaker 6: they may have autism. Then they have down to them,
Speaker 6: then they have a speech delay they may have.
Speaker 2: When you said early intervention, I wasn't sure. And of
Speaker 2: course we know that that with children. Sometimes children are
Speaker 2: not diagnosed with autism until they're one and a half.
Speaker 1: Two years old exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's something that people should be thinking about, and
Speaker 2: it's what do you what do you do if you
Speaker 2: have a child that has autism and is a little
Speaker 2: or or again some sort of a developmental issue, who's
Speaker 2: older than three? Why is it cut off at three?
Speaker 6: Well early, you know, we have to start somewhere, and
Speaker 6: this is the first year that we're doing it, so
Speaker 6: we're rolling it out to see. Obviously, we are very
Speaker 6: fortunate because he was all of the ahilanthropist and Marvel
Speaker 6: head who established the Changing Lives fund that these dark
Speaker 6: a few years ago, has graciously stepped forward to fund
Speaker 6: the Saving Lives program here and so we're going to
Speaker 6: start with the children that we serve because we see
Speaker 6: them for us to three and we're partnering, which what
Speaker 6: makes us unique is we're not going to actually provide
Speaker 6: the swimming lessons. We're partnering with the Yomsta, the North Shore,
Speaker 6: the Metro North YMCA and the North Shore Jewish Community Center,
Speaker 6: which all have swim lessons for children of this age
Speaker 6: in a variety of locations. So we want families to
Speaker 6: be able to go where they would be normally seeking
Speaker 6: out swim lessons, maybe for their family as well. And
Speaker 6: you know, we hope that we could you know, you know,
Speaker 6: expand this. So we're starting with something that we we Obviously,
Speaker 6: the other challenge is that the YMCAs are also inundated
Speaker 6: with just requests for swimming lessons, and so we don't
Speaker 6: want to create a demand that you know, our YMCA
Speaker 6: partners you know, can't neither.
Speaker 2: Well, okay. So so for the parents of children who
Speaker 2: have whether autism or other you know, I think you're
Speaker 2: referred to them as developmental issues, is what's the property, yeah,
Speaker 2: or just if.
Speaker 6: They're you know, reached out to the Northeast Dark and
Speaker 6: if they're interested in our early Intervention program, which is
Speaker 6: a free program that you can self proport to, we
Speaker 6: can do an evaluation, get them signed up for all
Speaker 6: sorts of services. And in addition, this is an added benefit.
Speaker 2: Again just focusing on this, the child has to be
Speaker 2: between the age of six months in three three and
Speaker 2: the autism obviously is one one diagnosis that you would
Speaker 2: deal with. What is the some of the other diagnoses
Speaker 2: or the umbrella term for all of these diagnoses, it's just.
Speaker 3: Just to development.
Speaker 6: No, not just because of the ratism. It can be
Speaker 6: any kind of delay. It could be a speech delay,
Speaker 6: it can be a motor issue, it might be could
Speaker 6: be terrible positive and.
Speaker 2: So they would be joy And I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure I understand that I'm sorry, and I know
Speaker 2: I'm I'm interrupting you there, and I apologize, but I
Speaker 2: want all parents to understand if the umbrella issue would
Speaker 2: probably be any form of a developmental issue, they should
Speaker 2: contact you, folks if they're interested in getting swimming lessons
Speaker 2: for their son or daughter between the age of six
Speaker 2: months and three years.
Speaker 6: Correct, and yes, and if they're living in the north
Speaker 6: Shore in the Cape Ann area, those are that's the
Speaker 6: catchment areas where we currently provide early intervention services. And
Speaker 6: this is open to anybody in our who received those services.
Speaker 2: Okay, but again I assume that someone when you say
Speaker 2: Cape Ian area without listing every city in town, I
Speaker 2: assume someone who is up in that general north Shore
Speaker 2: Cape Ann area. Uh, if they can get you know,
Speaker 2: they have to transport their child to the swim lessons
Speaker 2: and all of that.
Speaker 6: Again, well they do, but early intervention actually provides services
Speaker 6: in the home environment as well. So the first step
Speaker 6: would be getting in touch with the Northeast Dock Early
Speaker 6: Intervention Program.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did they do that?
Speaker 6: They can south before they can just www dot any
Speaker 6: hyphen a arc dot org.
Speaker 2: And again we're talking over each other. It's just any
Speaker 2: hyphen uh aar c aar c dot org. That w
Speaker 2: w W is No one has to use that anymore,
Speaker 2: so no one, you know, so, I mean it's like
Speaker 2: he confuses people sometimes, So give it to me without
Speaker 2: w W one more time.
Speaker 6: Any hyphen a arc dot org or just google Northeast
Speaker 6: arc Early Intervention.
Speaker 2: Perfect. Okay, Hopefully some folks have been able to write
Speaker 2: down what they have to write down and just get
Speaker 2: in touch with the Northeast r Thanks very much, Johayne.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thanks for the work you do.
Speaker 6: Thank you Jed for having us Okay, supporting us.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know you can always count on me. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Nine o'clock News is coming when we
Speaker 2: get back. We're going to talk about that mayoral primary
Speaker 2: election in New York City a couple of nights ago
Speaker 2: and a stunning upset. We're going to be talking with
Speaker 2: Boston Globe opinion writer Karine Hajar, who wrote a very
Speaker 2: interesting piece in the Boston Globe today on a shift
Speaker 2: within the Democratic Party that some Democrats are now beginning
Speaker 2: to become concerned about back on nights out after this