Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough, I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, hit
Speaker 1: somebody out here? What went on out there? Let's thought
Speaker 1: of a bit of about sixty forty nine. I don't
Speaker 1: know you see him out there? Yeah, I'm walking right heay.
Speaker 2: Oh greetings, thanks for joining me, Fred and Alaska. What
Speaker 2: I wanted to share with you today comes from a
Speaker 2: doctor who formerly lived in Anchorage moved out of state
Speaker 2: not because of this instance, but was around the state
Speaker 2: for a long time. We'll say Ben Ben Senior. Ben
Speaker 2: being a doctor accumulating assets, he bought a plane back
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty, little Piper cub.
Speaker 3: He loved flying it around.
Speaker 2: Had to hundred tires, had floats, had all the bells
Speaker 2: and whistles. When his son, Ben Junior was old enough,
Speaker 2: approximately ten years old, he started taking him out and
Speaker 2: about every year, going into the fall, he would take
Speaker 2: time out a month time, big old block of time
Speaker 2: to make sure his son had all his time during
Speaker 2: that time. Because as a doctor, he was all around
Speaker 2: the state. His hours were just what they were. He
Speaker 2: was doing his thing.
Speaker 3: He was on the grind.
Speaker 2: From what Ben Senior said, they decided to go up
Speaker 2: above the Yukon River a little ways to a place
Speaker 2: that he just saw on the map that struck his attention.
Speaker 3: It's called hell Bent Creek.
Speaker 2: It's off the tozine to I'll butcher the pronunciation. So
Speaker 2: he was teaching his son little things here and there.
Speaker 2: And they were about two weeks into their journey when
Speaker 2: they reached Hellbent Creek. Now, when they got there, he
Speaker 2: found a little place to land. He taxied around. There
Speaker 2: was a slight breeze from the north, but he said
Speaker 2: it wasn't so that he felt he couldn't take off.
Speaker 2: He didn't feel he needed to tie anything down. They
Speaker 2: weren't going to be there that long. But him and
Speaker 2: Ben Junior they go down to this, basically, he said,
Speaker 2: glorified pond, but it could be considered a lake. I
Speaker 2: couldn't find a name for it. So what it looked
Speaker 2: like to me on the map was a flood area
Speaker 2: from runoff and whatnot. Now him and Ben Junior are
Speaker 2: walking along this thing, heading due east.
Speaker 3: It's open territory.
Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of trees and as far
Speaker 2: as obscuring the view of nature and all that.
Speaker 3: But it's further up north, the trees are smaller. What
Speaker 3: was there? As they're down.
Speaker 2: At this pond, Ben Junior's chucking rocks right, just chucking
Speaker 2: rocks into the water. Ben Senior was just enjoying the sunlight,
Speaker 2: watching the sun throw rocks, just enjoying himself. He was
Speaker 2: just looking around. He liked to paint in his free time,
Speaker 2: and so he would attempt to just get some scenery
Speaker 2: pictures here and there and try to paint them later.
Speaker 2: It was the way he unwound from work and the
Speaker 2: death and stuff like that. He had himself a little
Speaker 2: a thirty five milimeter camera and was taking pictures, and
Speaker 2: it just so happened. As he was taking pictures, he
Speaker 2: hears splashing, but out of the corner of his eye
Speaker 2: he just sees his son sitting down right, and so
Speaker 2: here's a second splash that seemed different, seemed odd from
Speaker 2: what he was hearing from his son, And so he
Speaker 2: turns and looks, and his son's just sitting there looking
Speaker 2: off across this pond. He thought, not nuvid. He was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just not seeing him throw the rocks, or
Speaker 2: maybe he's kicking him or something.
Speaker 3: Not novid.
Speaker 2: He's twenty feet away. He's keeping an eye out. He
Speaker 2: had a bear gun. He was prepared for whatever. As
Speaker 2: he was sitting there, he just changed the filming his camera,
Speaker 2: just tucked everything away back in the bag, and was
Speaker 2: going down to engage his son and ask him if
Speaker 2: he wanted to get out of his little fishing pole
Speaker 2: or maybe fish for trout or something like that. Just
Speaker 2: since they were there. He was thinking why not, and
Speaker 2: his son he asked him while he was squatted down
Speaker 2: there by the edge of the lake or plond, and
Speaker 2: his son nodded, yet, yeah, I'll fish, And so he
Speaker 2: was like, come on, I'm not going to let you
Speaker 2: out of my son. You can go back to the
Speaker 2: plane with me. We'll grab that stuff and we'll see
Speaker 2: if you can catch a fish. So they go grab
Speaker 2: retrieve the tackle stuff. He puts his camera away because
Speaker 2: he had already he had just taken pictures of what
Speaker 2: he was gonna paint later, just what he did. When
Speaker 2: they get back down and his son's at the edge
Speaker 2: of this pond, he gets some lined out and his
Speaker 2: son was already proficient with his little rotten reel, right
Speaker 2: and just push button type release. You guys know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about as far as fishmen go, the little
Speaker 2: kid stuff. And his son starts casting away and is
Speaker 2: this fishing? And he's not seeing any sign of fish,
Speaker 2: but he's hopeful maybe it's boil catch something, and just
Speaker 2: starts just basically he's watching his son enjoy himself, just
Speaker 2: being a dad, been senior, being a doctor. He really observing,
Speaker 2: always observing. He notices his son is this for the
Speaker 2: most part. He'll cast real in a little ways and
Speaker 2: then squat down low, and he's staring across this pond,
Speaker 2: always the same direction, and he's looking across to see
Speaker 2: if maybe there's wild life, and his son's just observing it.
Speaker 2: And he said he wasn't seeing anything. He didn't see
Speaker 2: any streams, dark dots across the way or whatever. He
Speaker 2: said it maybe was eighty yards across maybe, and he
Speaker 2: was guestimating. He said he sat there and watched his
Speaker 2: son repeatedly do this, and he would get his boy's attention.
Speaker 2: He'd reel in, have some this little mossy grass stuff
Speaker 2: on his hook and have to take it off or whatever,
Speaker 2: and cast again. But he said his son was not
Speaker 2: doing the fishing thing. He would cast, he would reel in,
Speaker 2: and as soon as he felt he wasn't being watched,
Speaker 2: he would squat down and just stare across the pond
Speaker 2: and let his hook sink to the bottom and get
Speaker 2: all entangled and stuff. And so his dad, Ben Senior
Speaker 2: finally gets closer to him and goes, hey, you're not
Speaker 2: fishing much. We could put it away. It's no big deal.
Speaker 2: Are you getting tired? I started seeing if he was hungry,
Speaker 2: tired or whatever. Ben Junior just shaking his head, no,
Speaker 2: still looking across the pond, and he asked him, what
Speaker 2: are you looking at? You see any caribou over there?
Speaker 2: You see a bear. What are you see? And he goes,
Speaker 2: he's over there, you see him. He's in the brush,
Speaker 2: and he keeps popping up, and he keeps looking at me.
Speaker 2: Ben Senior's watching nothing, nothing, not noticing anything, and thought,
Speaker 2: maybe his son's imagination. Now in the wild, He's just figured,
Speaker 2: my boy's just using his imagination, no, biggie, because he's
Speaker 2: constantly looking around for bears or any kind of threat.
Speaker 2: Because he didn't want any trouble for his son or
Speaker 2: them to be in any real danger. It was dangerous
Speaker 2: enough flying from what Ben.
Speaker 3: Senior was saying. So this goes on for a while.
Speaker 2: The fishing thing was a bus because his son wasn't
Speaker 2: really doing it. So he goes, come on, son, let's
Speaker 2: go put your fishing stuff up. Maybe we'll grab our
Speaker 2: lunch out of the plane and we'll just sit down
Speaker 2: here and have lunch. And Ben Junior's okay, dad. So
Speaker 2: they go back and on the walk back to the plane,
Speaker 2: which is like not even one hundred yards away, Ben
Speaker 2: Junior keeps telling his dad about there's a man across
Speaker 2: the pond. He keeps poking his head out of the
Speaker 2: brush and looking at me. Ben Senior just going along. Says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what is he doing? He goes, we're just staring at
Speaker 2: each other, or you're just staring at each other. Why
Speaker 2: not wave at him? He goes, I tried once, but
Speaker 2: he didn't wave back. He just kept staring at me.
Speaker 2: They put the stuff up, and he says, they get
Speaker 2: the launch and stuff, and he hears this weird sharp
Speaker 2: whistle from behind them the direction they just came from
Speaker 2: this little pond area where they were just at real sharp,
Speaker 2: real loud, but it was short. It startled him because
Speaker 2: it was so loud. What was that? He thought maybe
Speaker 2: it was a bird of some kind and he never
Speaker 2: heard before, maybe something weird like that. Because of just
Speaker 2: how high pitched it was, he wasn't thinking of anything large.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: It sounded powerful, but he's heard seagulls close by squawk
Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff, and it can get pretty loud.
Speaker 2: So those curiosity is sparked and they grab their lunch stuff,
Speaker 2: thinking nothing of it. They go back over near where
Speaker 2: they were initially with the fishing, just a little closer
Speaker 2: in line with the plane, and he said, as his
Speaker 2: boy was eating, he was like, can I offer some
Speaker 2: to the man across over there, and he goes which
Speaker 2: man and his boy keeps pointing over to these bushes,
Speaker 2: and Ben Senior is not seeing anything. He asked his son,
Speaker 2: why do you want to share your lunch with that
Speaker 2: man over there?
Speaker 3: I don't see that man over there? Where is he at?
Speaker 3: He goes, he's over there. He keeps staring at me. Again.
Speaker 2: He just chalked it up to okay, he's going to
Speaker 2: run with this imaginary man across the way staring at me. Right,
Speaker 2: continues eating his lunch, and he's encouraging his son to, hey,
Speaker 2: eat up, you're going to be hungry later. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a couple hours before I'm able to make dinner,
Speaker 2: So get to eating. So some said fine, and he's
Speaker 2: eating away. A good amount of time's gone by, he said.
Speaker 2: It had probably been a couple hours since they landed,
Speaker 2: and everything from the fishing and then eating lunch stuff
Speaker 2: and just looking around or whatever.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: Just as he got done with his lunch, Ben Junior
Speaker 2: was almost done with his lunch. Out of the corner
Speaker 2: of his eye, he sees his son point and wave right,
Speaker 2: and he's half paying attention because he's just on that
Speaker 2: period thing where oh, it's an imaginary thing. As he
Speaker 2: was just dismissing it mentally, he notices a big dark
Speaker 2: spot up in the brush across that pond. Immediately it
Speaker 2: got his attention. He looks across and he sees what
Speaker 2: his son's been seeing, right, And he said that where
Speaker 2: this thing was popping up out of the brush, it
Speaker 2: was just back from the pond's edge and the brush,
Speaker 2: the dirt and stuff over there. This thing blended in
Speaker 2: so well. Had it not popped up, he would have
Speaker 2: never seen it. But once he saw it, he couldn't
Speaker 2: unsee it.
Speaker 3: It was there.
Speaker 2: So he's observing and he goes, is that the man?
Speaker 2: Is that the man you're talking about? And his son's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's him over there. He was a kid.
Speaker 3: He didn't realize anything was off. He's just a kid.
Speaker 2: So he goes, son, wrap up your lunch, because Ben
Speaker 2: Senior cannot see this thing fully. It's just a dark
Speaker 2: spot that's popping up every now and then again, probably
Speaker 2: about eighty yards, and he's not seeing a whole lot
Speaker 2: of it, right. He goes, son, let's get this wrapped up.
Speaker 2: He was getting a sink and feeling right. He said
Speaker 2: he felt like they weren't supposed to be there, Like,
Speaker 2: he got an overwhelming sense of they're just not where
Speaker 2: they should be.
Speaker 3: They should leave.
Speaker 2: So he's encouraging his son, finish up your lunch because
Speaker 2: he didn't want to spook his boy and make him
Speaker 2: scared of the outdoors because he didn't even know what
Speaker 2: that was across the way. So his son says, okay, Dad,
Speaker 2: he finishes up. Had a bit of a sandwich left
Speaker 2: and stuff to back in the baggie, right, he goes,
Speaker 2: no big deal, just put it in your lunchbox or whatever.
Speaker 2: His son at that time had one of those little metal,
Speaker 2: incredible Hulk lunch boxes. Right, We've all seen him. I've
Speaker 2: had one. Actually put his strmus in there and stuff
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. And he's latching it up,
Speaker 2: and he turns around and he starts walking past Ben Senior.
Speaker 2: And as his son is walking past him, because he's
Speaker 2: still sitting down watching this dark spot, this thing fully
Speaker 2: stands up right, and immediately he's holy shit, because this
Speaker 2: was obviously not just a brown dot. He said, it
Speaker 2: was man like in appearance. It had two arms, two legs,
Speaker 2: and when his sun started walking away, this thing stood
Speaker 2: up and started moving around the pond towards where hell
Speaker 2: Bent Creek starts. From this pond, he zig zagging back
Speaker 2: up into the mountains. He said, this thing started moving
Speaker 2: a round and it was moving quickly, and it looked
Speaker 2: like it was coming around the pond to their side
Speaker 2: of it, right, which it had a little ways to
Speaker 2: go to the end of the pond. Then it had
Speaker 2: to hook around and come back over. But it's a
Speaker 2: narrow pond. And so immediately he jumps up, he grabs
Speaker 2: his stuff and says, all right, it's on, hurry up,
Speaker 2: let's go. Didn't want to scare the sun gets over there.
Speaker 2: He had stuff he had to do. He had to
Speaker 2: warm up the engine and stuff like this. So he
Speaker 2: tucked his son in the back, put the earmuffs on him,
Speaker 2: and put the thing on him, and he goes practice
Speaker 2: calling out local air traffic whatever, just to warn him
Speaker 2: that we're going to be taken off soon, right, because
Speaker 2: he gets his boy in, gets him set up, gets
Speaker 2: into the front seat, and that's when he's telling his
Speaker 2: son to practice calling out because he was trying to
Speaker 2: keep him distracted from whatever was going on down by
Speaker 2: that pond. It's a little bit of a drop. They
Speaker 2: were up on a rise where they were eating. Ben
Speaker 2: Seniors said it was about ten fifteen foot drop, but
Speaker 2: it was sloped down gradual.
Speaker 3: And so he's got.
Speaker 2: The engine fired up, it's doing this warm up thing.
Speaker 2: He's looking around, he's not seeing anything. But in the
Speaker 2: ear muffs he hears his son saying, oh, there's the man.
Speaker 2: Waved to him, Dad, wave to him. He's over there.
Speaker 2: And so he's looking off in the.
Speaker 3: Direction of the pond, right, and he goes, I don't
Speaker 3: see him. Soon, I don't see him.
Speaker 1: Son.
Speaker 3: He goes, he's right there.
Speaker 2: He's right there, and he can't see where Little Ben
Speaker 2: Junior's pointing. He's got a prop going. You got to
Speaker 2: keep this in mind. This plane is fired up and
Speaker 2: it's warming up, right, it's not quiet. Anyone been around
Speaker 2: a piper cup, they're not quiet. So Ben Senior's looking
Speaker 2: off to his right. It's not seeing anything. And then
Speaker 2: finally his son reaches over the seat and taps him
Speaker 2: and points off to the left. Then Senior said, he
Speaker 2: turned and looked, and this thing was squatted down, almost
Speaker 2: like a football running back or linebacker, at about forty
Speaker 2: five feet off the end.
Speaker 3: Of the wing.
Speaker 2: Looking at his son, just staring. He said it creeped
Speaker 2: him out. He still had some warming up with the
Speaker 2: engine to do. But he immediately reached back behind his
Speaker 2: boy because he had slid the shotgun for bear back
Speaker 2: into a little scabbard that sat back, running along the
Speaker 2: back seat where his son was.
Speaker 3: Because you don't need it flying. So he scrambles back.
Speaker 2: He grabs that shotgun, pulls it, opens up the door
Speaker 2: on his side and drops the lower door. Because the
Speaker 2: engine still warming up, he's got a little bit to
Speaker 2: wait for it running temperature so he can take off.
Speaker 2: And so he's holding a shotgun out the door of
Speaker 2: the super cup, looking off his wing at this thing.
Speaker 2: And this thing was unfazed. It was just staring at
Speaker 2: his son.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back after the these messages.
Speaker 2: He said that it had a black face. It looked shiny.
Speaker 2: This is middle of the day, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: middle of the day. The sun was out, it was clear.
Speaker 2: He said, it looked greasy. Couldn't tell much as far
Speaker 2: as the finer features because ask him if the face
Speaker 2: was wrinkly or not or whatever. He said not that
Speaker 2: he could overly tell too much. He could tell it
Speaker 2: was squinting his eyes at times, because again, this is
Speaker 2: forty five feet off the end of the wing, so
Speaker 2: less than sixty feet away, and he's trying his best
Speaker 2: to hold it together while the plane warms up, and
Speaker 2: he's just like laser focused on this thing. He said,
Speaker 2: its sneeze looked like they were calloused from being on
Speaker 2: them or something like that. He said, the hands looked weird,
Speaker 2: not the first time I've heard it. The thumb was
Speaker 2: set back differently. This thing would periodically push off to
Speaker 2: the side, lean over with its arm extended out, leaning
Speaker 2: and looking and just the whole time staring at his son.
Speaker 2: It gets warm enough for him to take off. He
Speaker 2: basically slides the shotgun beside him, make sure the safety's on,
Speaker 2: and it's running back along the other side door to
Speaker 2: his right into the back area where the muzzle was
Speaker 2: past his son, so his son wasn't in any danger
Speaker 2: or whatever. Shut his doors, taxied around. The direction of
Speaker 2: the wind was where this.
Speaker 3: Thing was right.
Speaker 2: It was upwind of them, and so he's listenings in
Speaker 2: the freaking way, and so he taxies more off to
Speaker 2: his left. Once he turns around in the plane, taxis
Speaker 2: off more to the left, turns the direction of this thing,
Speaker 2: and this thing is still squatted. It's off to his
Speaker 2: right at about two o'clock position off his wing or whatever,
Speaker 2: off to the right, and he's worried.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know what this thing's gonna do.
Speaker 2: But he powers up, starts bouncing along to get the
Speaker 2: air speed to take off. He's got his alerons all
Speaker 2: the way out and stuff so he can get the
Speaker 2: wind to take off. And he said he was so
Speaker 2: fricking worried this thing was going to jump up and
Speaker 2: try to grab his wing as it went by. I
Speaker 2: asked him, why didn't you go further away from it?
Speaker 2: And the train didn't allow for him to do that.
Speaker 2: He would have been all sorts of jacked up trying
Speaker 2: to take off on a small slope or whatever, because
Speaker 2: he would have been pitched to the side versus flat.
Speaker 2: And so luckily he got enough airspeed past this. Saying it,
Speaker 2: he said, the whole time it just sat there, it
Speaker 2: was just staring at his son. When the thrust of
Speaker 2: the motor in the air from the prop hitted it,
Speaker 2: do this number. Because he was looking glanced back often.
Speaker 3: He took off.
Speaker 2: He said, he flew about a half mile, gaining altitude,
Speaker 2: and turned around and came back just to look again
Speaker 2: because he was so in shock of what he was seeing.
Speaker 2: And Ben Junior was like, wave to the man, Wave
Speaker 2: to the man. Because when they flew back over, it
Speaker 2: was back at the pond, squatted down smelling the ground
Speaker 2: where his son had been standing fishing.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: Watching that thing looking like it was sniffing the ground,
Speaker 2: inspecting everything where his son had been standing, gave him
Speaker 2: the fricking creeps, he said, seem aggressive. It didn't seem
Speaker 2: like it was out to get him in any way.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like it was very focused.
Speaker 3: On his boy. No, I ain't going to have any
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: He'll focused on my kids, which I totally understand. I
Speaker 2: want to thank Ben Senior. He had sent me the
Speaker 2: email a while back. I encourage him to give me
Speaker 2: a call because I won't share an email unless I
Speaker 2: talk to the people, so I can get all those
Speaker 2: little nuances of the story to better share with you
Speaker 2: guys and give them more accurate oral history of what
Speaker 2: had happened. After reassuring him of various other professionals in
Speaker 2: his field and law enforcement, military and all that. I
Speaker 2: don't share names. If people want to share their name,
Speaker 2: that's on them. Hey cool, I'll do that. Other than that,
Speaker 2: I don't throw anyone under the bus. Again, I'm want
Speaker 2: to thank him. I want to thank him for having
Speaker 2: to trust in me to share that I'm not going
Speaker 2: to dox you or anything like that. I also want
Speaker 2: to thank his son. I had a brief talk with
Speaker 2: Ben Junior. He was ten at the time, so it
Speaker 2: was quite a while ago and his memory of it
Speaker 2: had faded, but the bits and pieces that he did remember,
Speaker 2: he just said I asked him how to feel, which
Speaker 2: is real hard for that much time and being so
Speaker 2: young to really grasp at the time because he's just
Speaker 2: a kid and kids and their imaginations and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But I asked him.
Speaker 2: I was like, what was your overwhelming feeling with this
Speaker 2: thing constantly staring at you? And Ben Junior said he
Speaker 2: felt annoyed that this thing kept staring at him. He
Speaker 2: was like, I remember thinking I was trying to fish
Speaker 2: and I'm being stared at. I don't like to be
Speaker 2: stared at that kind of thing. So I appreciate him
Speaker 2: and his time, even though it was brief and he
Speaker 2: didn't really have a whole lot to add to it
Speaker 2: other than answering that brief question or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: thank them both for reaching out sharing that with us.
Speaker 2: What I wanted to share with you today comes from
Speaker 2: It was by request an unspecified village, a young lady
Speaker 2: reached out early twenties, well named Rishiloh. She and one
Speaker 2: of her little cousins, another female in this particular area.
Speaker 2: They were going last year to check on how the
Speaker 2: berry patches were coming, along as an excuse to get
Speaker 2: away from the daily grind and chores of putting up
Speaker 2: fish and all the stuff we do in the village.
Speaker 2: So they took it as an excuse to one look
Speaker 2: for berries, which you're never wasting time there and basically
Speaker 2: get a break from all the younger kids and whatnot. Right,
Speaker 2: so Charlotte's going along her little cousin stop at the
Speaker 2: first patch at Tandra, and they're in between. They're out
Speaker 2: in the tundra. There's probably she guestimated it, very intelligent
Speaker 2: young lady, about two miles between tree lines, so away
Speaker 2: far tree line and a way far tree line. They
Speaker 2: were damn near dead center of them, wide open. All
Speaker 2: that was there was like an old wagon wheel trail
Speaker 2: of four wheeler track, just one trail. They stopped at
Speaker 2: the first batch and they were looking a round. Then
Speaker 2: she noticed that all the little berry bushes, the blackberries
Speaker 2: and stuff looked already picked it plucked, not even forming
Speaker 2: or anything. Only a few. Most of them were not ready.
Speaker 2: They were way too green. But she knows there was
Speaker 2: a bunch missing, and she just thought it was odd,
Speaker 2: like they should be developing, and it looks like they'd
Speaker 2: been picked out, because obviously she would know what picked
Speaker 2: out area berries.
Speaker 3: Looks like, it's what we do.
Speaker 2: So they continue on down this path for about a
Speaker 2: quarter mile, give her take. She was spitballing into gestimation.
Speaker 2: And they get to another spot and they're looking around,
Speaker 2: and her little cousin, a female, went to the opposite
Speaker 2: side to check, and she gets about thirty yards away,
Speaker 2: and so does Shiloh. Go on the opposite direction off
Speaker 2: this trail because it's like a big horseshoe, and they
Speaker 2: were just at the apex of the horseshoe. Basically it
Speaker 2: would be probably eleven thirty on the clock, so to speak.
Speaker 2: So she goes off thirty forty yards, just glancing down
Speaker 2: at the tuns. You're looking at the condition of the
Speaker 2: barries and stuff, and this area didn't look all picked out,
Speaker 2: so she was just gauging. Picked a salmon berry was
Speaker 2: still it wasn't right yet, but she picked it anyway,
Speaker 2: just to get a little taste of it. So they're
Speaker 2: sitting there and time is going by. They're dinking around.
Speaker 2: Their eyes are down that everyone while should look around
Speaker 2: keeping out for bears. They had the rifle holder on
Speaker 2: the front of the four wheeler with the shotgun on it.
Speaker 3: Smart they're ready in case anything happened.
Speaker 2: She said her uncle was very intent on every kid
Speaker 2: knew how to use the shotgun, load the shotgun. Every
Speaker 2: time they left the village. That shuckun had to be
Speaker 2: on the four wheeler, otherwise they did not leave the village,
Speaker 2: which is good in my opinion. Kids should know how
Speaker 2: to properly handle a fire arm in the correct context,
Speaker 2: not just willy nilly. So anyway, ker little cousin she
Speaker 2: found a really good patch. So she goes and joints
Speaker 2: her cousin, which would be let's call it the south
Speaker 2: side of the big looping arch of a horseshoe shaped
Speaker 2: four wheeler trail that they used to get back to
Speaker 2: their berry picking spots, right, because they only allowed the
Speaker 2: one trail, so it wasn't tearing up all the tundra
Speaker 2: because this was prime berry patch, very big berry patch.
Speaker 2: So she joins her little cousin. They're sitting there. Her
Speaker 2: little cousin's picking a few of the blackberries. They are
Speaker 2: still a little not quite ripe, but she's just getting
Speaker 2: a taste of them. You've got to understand, this is
Speaker 2: in the early fall. Nothing's quite ripe. They're just scouting basically.
Speaker 2: So they sit there, they're playing around, laughing and joking.
Speaker 2: She was early twenties. She's just playing with the little cousin,
Speaker 2: just giggling, laughing about silliness that girls.
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Her words? Not mine, So, ladies, I'm not mocking it.
Speaker 2: So as they're talking, her little cousin had a string,
Speaker 2: and they're playing this little game with the string where
Speaker 2: you put your fingers tough and you make all sorts
Speaker 2: of different which is broom and all this other stuff. Right,
Speaker 2: they were thinking around, just no worries in the world.
Speaker 2: They're in open tunsa. They can see something coming for
Speaker 2: literally a mile in each direction. She would look around
Speaker 2: every once in a while nothing, So they're playing this
Speaker 2: little string game for a little bit. As they're wrapping
Speaker 2: up being in that area, they get back over the
Speaker 2: four wheeler and they're gonna they got a couple more
Speaker 2: spots to check to bring back a full report. They
Speaker 2: didn't want to go back home with half the information
Speaker 2: at their ass to gather, so they continued down a
Speaker 2: little further, so it would be approximately about the one
Speaker 2: one thirty area on this horseshe if we're looking at
Speaker 2: it as a clock. So they've already made it most
Speaker 2: of the way, do this loop and again flat tundra.
Speaker 2: You got the divots and stuff in the tundra, but
Speaker 2: it's wide open. There's not even scrub brushing there.
Speaker 3: And at the.
Speaker 2: Far far end it's a little bit of marsh before
Speaker 2: it reached the black spruce. So they heard ducks and
Speaker 2: stuff taken off, So they were watching the ducks for
Speaker 2: a little bit. It was just around the time of
Speaker 2: year where the ducks are starting to fly out. They
Speaker 2: watched the ducks take off and circle around land again,
Speaker 2: take off, circle around land again. They saw a couple
Speaker 2: of Canadian geese and they're basically just wildlife watching and
Speaker 2: checking for berries.
Speaker 3: What more could you ask?
Speaker 2: She said, it was super peaceful. The sun was out,
Speaker 2: it wasn't cold, but it wasn't overly hot. It was
Speaker 2: just perfect condition for just relaxation. Again, they are literally
Speaker 2: sitting on a four wheeler, looking around them in all directions,
Speaker 2: black tundra, nothing there. They fire up the four wheeler.
Speaker 2: They're going down the trail out of nowhere. About fifty
Speaker 2: yards off to their left hand side, there's this big,
Speaker 2: hulking figure, approximately nine foot tall at least. She was
Speaker 2: trying to be conservative. She was like, it's a big
Speaker 2: frickin monstery. But the thing of it is that this
Speaker 2: thing was doing this motion motioning towards them, and she
Speaker 2: said it was almost like she fell into a trance.
Speaker 2: She said, in that moment, she felt peace. She felt
Speaker 2: like her upper her grandpa was calling her over. It
Speaker 2: was that kind of feeling she was getting from this
Speaker 2: thing again, this single four wheeler trail with ruts. Order
Speaker 2: to go towards that thing, she had to go over
Speaker 2: these bumps to turn away from the trail, and as
Speaker 2: she did that, she bumped her knee and hit it
Speaker 2: pretty hard in a jarring motion. When they were gone,
Speaker 2: over the little bumps, and it snapped her out of
Speaker 2: this trance that she had, and immediately she made eye
Speaker 2: contact with this thing, she said. The facial complexion was
Speaker 2: a milky gray, very wrinkly pitch black eyes. The sun
Speaker 2: was behind them, so this thing was fully lit up
Speaker 2: right there about fifty yards, she guestimated. And now they're
Speaker 2: pointing straight at it. It's not moving, it's just gently
Speaker 2: doing this motion like this. She's out of that trance,
Speaker 2: and she immediately recognized was overcome that she had been fooled.
Speaker 2: Something was tricking her mind. These are her words, not mine.
Speaker 2: Something was tricking her mind into thinking that this creature
Speaker 2: was their friend, initially until she bumped her knee, and
Speaker 2: that snapped her out of it, she said. In that moment,
Speaker 2: the realization of what was happening was so overwhelming to her.
Speaker 2: Immediately she had tears streaming, and of course she banked
Speaker 2: back up onto the trail and hauled ass right. She
Speaker 2: went and grabbed one of her older cousins that was
Speaker 2: the only one around. Everyone else jumped on a skip
Speaker 2: from they were doing stuff outside of the village while
Speaker 2: they'd been gone, and so there was just one older cousin,
Speaker 2: a male, and they got her young cousin into the house,
Speaker 2: doors locked, all that stuff. Don't answer the doortll we
Speaker 2: get back her and her older male cousin went back
Speaker 2: out that way. When they get back out to where
Speaker 2: it had gone down or whatever, they had no cameras
Speaker 2: or anything like that. She just recently got a cell
Speaker 2: phone when she moved away from the village, so there
Speaker 2: was no portable cameras. I asked because there was big, heavy,
Speaker 2: deep impressions. She said it was very reminiscent of the
Speaker 2: pictures Vincent Wassley sent with the tungeer broken with the
Speaker 2: foot imprint. Older cousin was just, ah, geez, yeah, because
Speaker 2: at first he thought they were just being silly little girls.
Speaker 2: Maybe a bear was there. They got startled. He was
Speaker 2: looking for reasoning to dismiss the girls because they were
Speaker 2: silly girls, and he was obviously wrong, because I've talked
Speaker 2: to this she's very sharp.
Speaker 3: And they get there.
Speaker 2: He pops the shotgun out of the holder and they
Speaker 2: go over and she shows them where the tracks are
Speaker 2: and they look and they see the tracks going in
Speaker 2: a straight line and standard right one in front of
Speaker 2: the other. They weren't offset, and it literally went back
Speaker 2: towards that pond. Now that pond was a distance away
Speaker 2: because they could barely see it as a sliver at
Speaker 2: the distance when the ducks were taken off and flying
Speaker 2: around just earlier. So they decide they got the gun.
Speaker 2: She's got a male companion with her to go and
Speaker 2: check it out. He was curious, she was terrified. She
Speaker 2: kept telling them, I told you, I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go. Let's not be right here, Let's go.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, let's follow.
Speaker 2: Um, go see this thing for myself so I could
Speaker 2: say I saw it and not just have it a
Speaker 2: track in the ground.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 2: He was a little older, so that would make him
Speaker 2: going into the late twenties. So they start walking, and
Speaker 2: she didn't want to be alone, so she's stuck by him.
Speaker 2: He had the gun in a hard head to go
Speaker 2: and check this situation out.
Speaker 3: They walked. They followed the track.
Speaker 2: She said she had to take four steps to equal
Speaker 2: one stride length of this thing. She said, she's five
Speaker 2: foot seven, used to run cross country, so she was
Speaker 2: used to taking longer steps and whatnot. She said it
Speaker 2: was four of hers compared to the one her older cousin.
Speaker 2: The further they got away from the four wheeler trail,
Speaker 2: the more nervous he got. So they got about, she said,
Speaker 2: one hundred yards from the four wheeler. When across that
Speaker 2: pond away they saw this dark figure standing there and
Speaker 2: it's doing this number really hard, swaying back and forth
Speaker 2: really hard, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after the these messages.
Speaker 2: So her cousin spots it just as she spots it,
Speaker 2: and he starts waving his hands up with the shot
Speaker 2: in his hand. Hey over here, trying to get its
Speaker 2: attention because this thing was it was focused on them,
Speaker 2: but it was it just kept swaying, so he was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I see it. That's the hairy man or whatever. They
Speaker 2: start going back towards the four wheeler. As every few steps,
Speaker 2: her cousin was looking back to make sure they weren't
Speaker 2: being followed. But the problem was every time he looked back,
Speaker 2: it was in a different position, coming towards them and
Speaker 2: covering ground rather quickly. So he got her to start
Speaker 2: running and he started running. They got back to the
Speaker 2: four wheeler when they jumped on and he put the
Speaker 2: shotgun in the holder. This thing was within one hundred
Speaker 2: yards already and closing in on them very fast. He
Speaker 2: fired up the four wheeler, had it running in there,
Speaker 2: and he felt this thing was just coming, beelining for him.
Speaker 2: So he pulled the shotgun back out and fired around
Speaker 2: in the air, racked another shell in, and when he
Speaker 2: shot into the air, this thing did a tumble and
Speaker 2: then tumbled again, then took off on all fours, heading
Speaker 2: about approximately three quarters of a mile to the tree line,
Speaker 2: to the opposite side of this huge opening of tundra.
Speaker 3: And so they're in awe.
Speaker 2: He feels safer now because it's running away, the four
Speaker 2: wheelers running. She's looking all around for any other ones,
Speaker 2: just for me. The thought of how quickly these things move, right,
Speaker 2: because this thing, they said, it did not stop. It
Speaker 2: hit the tree line, they heard some crashing obviously at
Speaker 2: a distance was just gone disappeared. So they look around
Speaker 2: a little more, go back, talk to her little cousin.
Speaker 2: When the other folks came back, the older cousin went
Speaker 2: with other males from the village and they went out.
Speaker 2: If anyone else knows what I'm talking about, I'm keeping
Speaker 2: shows not a real name. I'm not naming the village,
Speaker 2: but she said there was several others part of this,
Speaker 2: So if you are one of those, please reach out.
Speaker 2: I can't use her real name of soap any others
Speaker 2: from this particular area. If this sounds familiar and you
Speaker 2: were a part of that, please speak out. So they
Speaker 2: go back with all the older males. Right, he takes
Speaker 2: them right to where this thing went into the trees.
Speaker 2: They paired up in groups of two. There was approximately
Speaker 2: eight of them, So there's four little groups all armed
Speaker 2: looking to not to kill it, but to make it
Speaker 2: clear it can't come.
Speaker 3: They wanted it to feel unwelcome.
Speaker 2: Right, because the way they viewed it, this thing was
Speaker 2: awfully freaking friendly and awfully open daylight to keep accosting
Speaker 2: younger people, and they weren't going to have it. So
Speaker 2: they hit the trees and they break up into their teams,
Speaker 2: safety buddy and whatnot. They got to the backside of
Speaker 2: that tree line and there are some smaller marshes with
Speaker 2: little islands of spruce and stuff.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: What I mean by an island of spruce is you'll
Speaker 2: have a bunch of muskeg and tundrau and swampy areas
Speaker 2: and they'll be just like a little island of black
Speaker 2: spruce streets, and a lot of them are dwarfed out
Speaker 2: from all the alkaline and stuff. They had all these
Speaker 2: little patches here and there, and they were checking, never
Speaker 2: being thorough once they got to the tree line, because
Speaker 2: it was easy to follow the tracks to the tree line.
Speaker 2: But then once it hit the tree line, it was
Speaker 2: broken up. And how it was moving it was what
Speaker 2: was told to me. It was sporadic, how it was
Speaker 2: going through the trees. I don't know, if it was
Speaker 2: to lose the trail whatever, I don't know. All speculation.
Speaker 2: So they're on the back side and when they were
Speaker 2: at the edge of this tree line, they're looking out
Speaker 2: across the muskeg on the opposite side to see if
Speaker 2: it had continued, and they noticed some spots that they
Speaker 2: assumed were its tracks still going away. So they they
Speaker 2: are like, they were happy that it was gone, like
Speaker 2: out of the area and still moving away. So they
Speaker 2: felt safe enough and they retreated back. Shiloh said that
Speaker 2: two weeks later, three weeks later, someone had some late
Speaker 2: smoked salmon hanging that they had not tended to. They
Speaker 2: were busy doing other things and they just hadn't quite
Speaker 2: tended to their smoked salmon in their smokehouse, and their
Speaker 2: particular house is right at the edge of the village.
Speaker 2: The smokehouse mysteriously was knocked down. It didn't look damaged,
Speaker 2: it just looked like it was pushed over almost right.
Speaker 2: All the salmon gone. There was some tracks seen, but
Speaker 2: the person who saw the tracks was a younger kid
Speaker 2: that thought they were bear tracks. Ran told someone, and
Speaker 2: I saw bear tracks. Oh, okay, it makes sense, they envisioned.
Speaker 2: They thought nothing of the Hairyman. They thought a bear
Speaker 2: pushed it over, being a brute, just pushed it over
Speaker 2: and took the fish. So they were upset about that.
Speaker 2: Now they hadn't forgot the Harryman thing, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: fresh on their mind. It was a few weeks later.
Speaker 2: So the kid that found it knocked over whatever, went
Speaker 2: and told his dad. I grabbed his bear gun and
Speaker 2: went and tracked this thing aways. He got approximately three
Speaker 2: hundred yards from the village proper where they were at
Speaker 2: on this little game trail, and he was coming up
Speaker 2: to where the trail entered the black spruce and the willows,
Speaker 2: and immediately he felt something. It never felt before a
Speaker 2: very unnatural fear that compelled him to state. What was
Speaker 2: told to me is this guy knelt down and was
Speaker 2: just trying to find what he felt was what he
Speaker 2: felt like he's being watched, and he was trying to
Speaker 2: discern where is he being watched from. As he's doing so,
Speaker 2: he noticed his movement. This is big movement in the trees,
Speaker 2: and he thought, God, that's too big to be a bear.
Speaker 2: They weren't used to bears that big in there. Big
Speaker 2: bear is in the area, but not that big. So
Speaker 2: from what this guy says, this think came out and
Speaker 2: he's less than thirty yards from this tree line. This
Speaker 2: thing comes out and it has a handful of salmon strips.
Speaker 2: But these salmon strips are approximately eighteen to twenty two
Speaker 2: inches long each and they were just looking like little
Speaker 2: pieces of grass sticking out on each end of this
Speaker 2: thing's big hand. The guy immediately got the hell out
Speaker 2: of there. From what I understand, that was the last sighting.
Speaker 2: That was the last experience. Then this is just last year,
Speaker 2: last fall. There hasn't been anything since. She just moved
Speaker 2: away from the village February ish and is currently an anchorage.
Speaker 2: I want to thank Shiloh very much for reaching out.
Speaker 2: A very bright young lady, very concise in what she
Speaker 2: was talking about. She knew distance it, all of it.
Speaker 2: Very sharp girl. I want to thank her for reaching
Speaker 2: out sharing that with me. I was asking, can you
Speaker 2: reach out to you who else you know was there
Speaker 2: and see if they'd be wanting to talk. She said
Speaker 2: she would, but she also requested that I make three
Speaker 2: quess so if anyone from this situation and it sounds familiar,
Speaker 2: please reach out. She wasn't gonna throw anyone under the bus.
Speaker 2: She was willing to give me names, and I told
Speaker 2: her just hold on to those, Just hold on to that,
Speaker 2: and I'll keep you anonymous. Again, thank you Shiloh for sharing.
Speaker 2: We'll catch you guys on the next one.