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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough, I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, hit

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here? What went on out there? Let's thought

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<v Speaker 1>of a bit of about sixty forty nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you see him out there? Yeah, I'm walking right heay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh greetings, thanks for joining me, Fred and Alaska. What

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to share with you today comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor who formerly lived in Anchorage moved out of state

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<v Speaker 2>not because of this instance, but was around the state

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. We'll say Ben Ben Senior. Ben

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<v Speaker 2>being a doctor accumulating assets, he bought a plane back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty, little Piper cub.

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<v Speaker 3>He loved flying it around.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to hundred tires, had floats, had all the bells

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<v Speaker 2>and whistles. When his son, Ben Junior was old enough,

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<v Speaker 2>approximately ten years old, he started taking him out and

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<v Speaker 2>about every year, going into the fall, he would take

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<v Speaker 2>time out a month time, big old block of time

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure his son had all his time during

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<v Speaker 2>that time. Because as a doctor, he was all around

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<v Speaker 2>the state. His hours were just what they were. He

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<v Speaker 2>was doing his thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on the grind.

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<v Speaker 2>From what Ben Senior said, they decided to go up

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<v Speaker 2>above the Yukon River a little ways to a place

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<v Speaker 2>that he just saw on the map that struck his attention.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called hell Bent Creek.

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<v Speaker 2>It's off the tozine to I'll butcher the pronunciation. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was teaching his son little things here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were about two weeks into their journey when

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<v Speaker 2>they reached Hellbent Creek. Now, when they got there, he

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<v Speaker 2>found a little place to land. He taxied around. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a slight breeze from the north, but he said

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't so that he felt he couldn't take off.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't feel he needed to tie anything down. They

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<v Speaker 2>weren't going to be there that long. But him and

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Junior they go down to this, basically, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>glorified pond, but it could be considered a lake. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find a name for it. So what it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like to me on the map was a flood area

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<v Speaker 2>from runoff and whatnot. Now him and Ben Junior are

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<v Speaker 2>walking along this thing, heading due east.

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<v Speaker 3>It's open territory.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a whole lot of trees and as far

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<v Speaker 2>as obscuring the view of nature and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's further up north, the trees are smaller. What

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<v Speaker 3>was there? As they're down.

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<v Speaker 2>At this pond, Ben Junior's chucking rocks right, just chucking

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<v Speaker 2>rocks into the water. Ben Senior was just enjoying the sunlight,

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<v Speaker 2>watching the sun throw rocks, just enjoying himself. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just looking around. He liked to paint in his free time,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he would attempt to just get some scenery

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<v Speaker 2>pictures here and there and try to paint them later.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the way he unwound from work and the

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<v Speaker 2>death and stuff like that. He had himself a little

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty five milimeter camera and was taking pictures, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just so happened. As he was taking pictures, he

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<v Speaker 2>hears splashing, but out of the corner of his eye

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<v Speaker 2>he just sees his son sitting down right, and so

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<v Speaker 2>here's a second splash that seemed different, seemed odd from

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<v Speaker 2>what he was hearing from his son, And so he

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<v Speaker 2>turns and looks, and his son's just sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 2>off across this pond. He thought, not nuvid. He was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm just not seeing him throw the rocks, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he's kicking him or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Not novid.

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<v Speaker 2>He's twenty feet away. He's keeping an eye out. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a bear gun. He was prepared for whatever. As

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<v Speaker 2>he was sitting there, he just changed the filming his camera,

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<v Speaker 2>just tucked everything away back in the bag, and was

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<v Speaker 2>going down to engage his son and ask him if

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to get out of his little fishing pole

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe fish for trout or something like that. Just

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<v Speaker 2>since they were there. He was thinking why not, and

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<v Speaker 2>his son he asked him while he was squatted down

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<v Speaker 2>there by the edge of the lake or plond, and

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<v Speaker 2>his son nodded, yet, yeah, I'll fish, And so he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, come on, I'm not going to let you

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<v Speaker 2>out of my son. You can go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>plane with me. We'll grab that stuff and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>if you can catch a fish. So they go grab

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<v Speaker 2>retrieve the tackle stuff. He puts his camera away because

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<v Speaker 2>he had already he had just taken pictures of what

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<v Speaker 2>he was gonna paint later, just what he did. When

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<v Speaker 2>they get back down and his son's at the edge

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<v Speaker 2>of this pond, he gets some lined out and his

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<v Speaker 2>son was already proficient with his little rotten reel, right

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<v Speaker 2>and just push button type release. You guys know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about as far as fishmen go, the little

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<v Speaker 2>kid stuff. And his son starts casting away and is

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<v Speaker 2>this fishing? And he's not seeing any sign of fish,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's hopeful maybe it's boil catch something, and just

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<v Speaker 2>starts just basically he's watching his son enjoy himself, just

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<v Speaker 2>being a dad, been senior, being a doctor. He really observing,

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<v Speaker 2>always observing. He notices his son is this for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part. He'll cast real in a little ways and

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<v Speaker 2>then squat down low, and he's staring across this pond,

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<v Speaker 2>always the same direction, and he's looking across to see

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe there's wild life, and his son's just observing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said he wasn't seeing anything. He didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>any streams, dark dots across the way or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 2>said it maybe was eighty yards across maybe, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was guestimating. He said he sat there and watched his

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<v Speaker 2>son repeatedly do this, and he would get his boy's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd reel in, have some this little mossy grass stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on his hook and have to take it off or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and cast again. But he said his son was not

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<v Speaker 2>doing the fishing thing. He would cast, he would reel in,

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<v Speaker 2>and as soon as he felt he wasn't being watched,

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<v Speaker 2>he would squat down and just stare across the pond

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<v Speaker 2>and let his hook sink to the bottom and get

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<v Speaker 2>all entangled and stuff. And so his dad, Ben Senior

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<v Speaker 2>finally gets closer to him and goes, hey, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>fishing much. We could put it away. It's no big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you getting tired? I started seeing if he was hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>tired or whatever. Ben Junior just shaking his head, no,

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<v Speaker 2>still looking across the pond, and he asked him, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you looking at? You see any caribou over there?

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<v Speaker 2>You see a bear. What are you see? And he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's over there, you see him. He's in the brush,

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<v Speaker 2>and he keeps popping up, and he keeps looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Senior's watching nothing, nothing, not noticing anything, and thought,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe his son's imagination. Now in the wild, He's just figured,

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<v Speaker 2>my boy's just using his imagination, no, biggie, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>constantly looking around for bears or any kind of threat.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he didn't want any trouble for his son or

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<v Speaker 2>them to be in any real danger. It was dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>enough flying from what Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>Senior was saying. So this goes on for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>The fishing thing was a bus because his son wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really doing it. So he goes, come on, son, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go put your fishing stuff up. Maybe we'll grab our

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<v Speaker 2>lunch out of the plane and we'll just sit down

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<v Speaker 2>here and have lunch. And Ben Junior's okay, dad. So

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<v Speaker 2>they go back and on the walk back to the plane,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like not even one hundred yards away, Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Junior keeps telling his dad about there's a man across

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<v Speaker 2>the pond. He keeps poking his head out of the

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<v Speaker 2>brush and looking at me. Ben Senior just going along. Says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what is he doing? He goes, we're just staring at

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<v Speaker 2>each other, or you're just staring at each other. Why

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<v Speaker 2>not wave at him? He goes, I tried once, but

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't wave back. He just kept staring at me.

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<v Speaker 2>They put the stuff up, and he says, they get

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<v Speaker 2>the launch and stuff, and he hears this weird sharp

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<v Speaker 2>whistle from behind them the direction they just came from

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<v Speaker 2>this little pond area where they were just at real sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>real loud, but it was short. It startled him because

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<v Speaker 2>it was so loud. What was that? He thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bird of some kind and he never

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<v Speaker 2>heard before, maybe something weird like that. Because of just

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<v Speaker 2>how high pitched it was, he wasn't thinking of anything large.

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<v Speaker 3>He said.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded powerful, but he's heard seagulls close by squawk

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of stuff, and it can get pretty loud.

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<v Speaker 2>So those curiosity is sparked and they grab their lunch stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking nothing of it. They go back over near where

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<v Speaker 2>they were initially with the fishing, just a little closer

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<v Speaker 2>in line with the plane, and he said, as his

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<v Speaker 2>boy was eating, he was like, can I offer some

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<v Speaker 2>to the man across over there, and he goes which

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<v Speaker 2>man and his boy keeps pointing over to these bushes,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben Senior is not seeing anything. He asked his son,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you want to share your lunch with that

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<v Speaker 2>man over there?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see that man over there? Where is he at?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, he's over there. He keeps staring at me. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>He just chalked it up to okay, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>run with this imaginary man across the way staring at me. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>continues eating his lunch, and he's encouraging his son to, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>eat up, you're going to be hungry later. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a couple hours before I'm able to make dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>So get to eating. So some said fine, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>eating away. A good amount of time's gone by, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>It had probably been a couple hours since they landed,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything from the fishing and then eating lunch stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and just looking around or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>He said.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as he got done with his lunch, Ben Junior

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<v Speaker 2>was almost done with his lunch. Out of the corner

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<v Speaker 2>of his eye, he sees his son point and wave right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's half paying attention because he's just on that

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<v Speaker 2>period thing where oh, it's an imaginary thing. As he

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<v Speaker 2>was just dismissing it mentally, he notices a big dark

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<v Speaker 2>spot up in the brush across that pond. Immediately it

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<v Speaker 2>got his attention. He looks across and he sees what

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<v Speaker 2>his son's been seeing, right, And he said that where

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was popping up out of the brush, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just back from the pond's edge and the brush,

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<v Speaker 2>the dirt and stuff over there. This thing blended in

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<v Speaker 2>so well. Had it not popped up, he would have

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<v Speaker 2>never seen it. But once he saw it, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>unsee it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was there.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's observing and he goes, is that the man?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the man you're talking about? And his son's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's him over there. He was a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't realize anything was off. He's just a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes, son, wrap up your lunch, because Ben

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<v Speaker 2>spot that's popping up every now and then again, probably

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty yards, and he's not seeing a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it, right. He goes, son, let's get this wrapped up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was getting a sink and feeling right. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he felt like they weren't supposed to be there, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>he got an overwhelming sense of they're just not where

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<v Speaker 3>They should leave.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's encouraging his son, finish up your lunch because

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't want to spook his boy and make him

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<v Speaker 2>he finishes up. Had a bit of a sandwich left

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff to back in the baggie, right, he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>no big deal, just put it in your lunchbox or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>His son at that time had one of those little metal,

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<v Speaker 2>incredible Hulk lunch boxes. Right, We've all seen him. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had one. Actually put his strmus in there and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. And he's latching it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and he turns around and he starts walking past Ben Senior.

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<v Speaker 2>And as his son is walking past him, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>still sitting down watching this dark spot, this thing fully

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<v Speaker 2>stands up right, and immediately he's holy shit, because this

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously not just a brown dot. He said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was man like in appearance. It had two arms, two legs,

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<v Speaker 2>and when his sun started walking away, this thing stood

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<v Speaker 2>up and started moving around the pond towards where hell

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<v Speaker 2>Bent Creek starts. From this pond, he zig zagging back

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<v Speaker 2>up into the mountains. He said, this thing started moving

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<v Speaker 2>a round and it was moving quickly, and it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like it was coming around the pond to their side

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<v Speaker 2>of it, right, which it had a little ways to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the end of the pond. Then it had

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<v Speaker 2>to hook around and come back over. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>narrow pond. And so immediately he jumps up, he grabs

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff and says, all right, it's on, hurry up,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. Didn't want to scare the sun gets over there.

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<v Speaker 2>He had stuff he had to do. He had to

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<v Speaker 2>warm up the engine and stuff like this. So he

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<v Speaker 2>tucked his son in the back, put the earmuffs on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and put the thing on him, and he goes practice

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<v Speaker 2>calling out local air traffic whatever, just to warn him

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to be taken off soon, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>he gets his boy in, gets him set up, gets

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<v Speaker 2>into the front seat, and that's when he's telling his

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<v Speaker 2>keep him distracted from whatever was going on down by

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<v Speaker 2>that pond. It's a little bit of a drop. They

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<v Speaker 2>were up on a rise where they were eating. Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Seniors said it was about ten fifteen foot drop, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was sloped down gradual.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>The engine fired up, it's doing this warm up thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's looking around, he's not seeing anything. But in the

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<v Speaker 2>ear muffs he hears his son saying, oh, there's the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Waved to him, Dad, wave to him. He's over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's looking off in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Direction of the pond, right, and he goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see him. Soon, I don't see him.

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<v Speaker 1>Son.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, he's right there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right there, and he can't see where Little Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Junior's pointing. He's got a prop going. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>keep this in mind. This plane is fired up and

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<v Speaker 2>it's warming up, right, it's not quiet. Anyone been around

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<v Speaker 2>a piper cup, they're not quiet. So Ben Senior's looking

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<v Speaker 2>off to his right. It's not seeing anything. And then

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<v Speaker 2>finally his son reaches over the seat and taps him

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<v Speaker 2>and points off to the left. Then Senior said, he

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<v Speaker 2>turned and looked, and this thing was squatted down, almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a football running back or linebacker, at about forty

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<v Speaker 2>five feet off the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the wing.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking at his son, just staring. He said it creeped

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<v Speaker 2>him out. He still had some warming up with the

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<v Speaker 2>engine to do. But he immediately reached back behind his

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<v Speaker 2>boy because he had slid the shotgun for bear back

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<v Speaker 2>into a little scabbard that sat back, running along the

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<v Speaker 2>back seat where his son was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you don't need it flying. So he scrambles back.

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<v Speaker 2>He grabs that shotgun, pulls it, opens up the door

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<v Speaker 2>on his side and drops the lower door. Because the

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<v Speaker 2>engine still warming up, he's got a little bit to

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<v Speaker 2>wait for it running temperature so he can take off.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's holding a shotgun out the door of

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<v Speaker 2>the super cup, looking off his wing at this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this thing was unfazed. It was just staring at

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<v Speaker 2>his son.

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<v Speaker 3>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back after the these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that it had a black face. It looked shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>This is middle of the day, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the day. The sun was out, it was clear.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, it looked greasy. Couldn't tell much as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the finer features because ask him if the face

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<v Speaker 2>was wrinkly or not or whatever. He said not that

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<v Speaker 2>he could overly tell too much. He could tell it

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<v Speaker 2>was squinting his eyes at times, because again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>forty five feet off the end of the wing, so

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<v Speaker 2>less than sixty feet away, and he's trying his best

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<v Speaker 2>to hold it together while the plane warms up, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's just like laser focused on this thing. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>its sneeze looked like they were calloused from being on

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<v Speaker 2>them or something like that. He said, the hands looked weird,

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<v Speaker 2>not the first time I've heard it. The thumb was

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<v Speaker 2>set back differently. This thing would periodically push off to

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<v Speaker 2>the side, lean over with its arm extended out, leaning

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<v Speaker 2>and looking and just the whole time staring at his son.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets warm enough for him to take off. He

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<v Speaker 2>basically slides the shotgun beside him, make sure the safety's on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's running back along the other side door to

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<v Speaker 2>his right into the back area where the muzzle was

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<v Speaker 2>past his son, so his son wasn't in any danger

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Shut his doors, taxied around. The direction of

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<v Speaker 2>the wind was where this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing was right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was upwind of them, and so he's listenings in

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<v Speaker 2>the freaking way, and so he taxies more off to

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<v Speaker 2>his left. Once he turns around in the plane, taxis

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<v Speaker 2>off more to the left, turns the direction of this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and this thing is still squatted. It's off to his

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<v Speaker 2>right at about two o'clock position off his wing or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>off to the right, and he's worried.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't know what this thing's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>But he powers up, starts bouncing along to get the

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<v Speaker 2>air speed to take off. He's got his alerons all

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<v Speaker 2>the way out and stuff so he can get the

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<v Speaker 2>wind to take off. And he said he was so

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<v Speaker 2>fricking worried this thing was going to jump up and

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<v Speaker 2>try to grab his wing as it went by. I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him, why didn't you go further away from it?

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<v Speaker 2>And the train didn't allow for him to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been all sorts of jacked up trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take off on a small slope or whatever, because

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<v Speaker 2>he would have been pitched to the side versus flat.

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<v Speaker 2>And so luckily he got enough airspeed past this. Saying it,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, the whole time it just sat there, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just staring at his son. When the thrust of

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<v Speaker 2>the motor in the air from the prop hitted it,

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<v Speaker 2>do this number. Because he was looking glanced back often.

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<v Speaker 3>He took off.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he flew about a half mile, gaining altitude,

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<v Speaker 2>and turned around and came back just to look again

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<v Speaker 2>because he was so in shock of what he was seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ben Junior was like, wave to the man, Wave

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<v Speaker 2>to the man. Because when they flew back over, it

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<v Speaker 2>was back at the pond, squatted down smelling the ground

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<v Speaker 2>where his son had been standing fishing.

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<v Speaker 3>He said.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching that thing looking like it was sniffing the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>inspecting everything where his son had been standing, gave him

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<v Speaker 2>the fricking creeps, he said, seem aggressive. It didn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like it was out to get him in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seemed like it was very focused.

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<v Speaker 3>On his boy. No, I ain't going to have any

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll focused on my kids, which I totally understand. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank Ben Senior. He had sent me the

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<v Speaker 2>email a while back. I encourage him to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a call because I won't share an email unless I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the people, so I can get all those

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<v Speaker 2>little nuances of the story to better share with you

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<v Speaker 2>guys and give them more accurate oral history of what

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<v Speaker 2>had happened. After reassuring him of various other professionals in

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<v Speaker 2>his field and law enforcement, military and all that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't share names. If people want to share their name,

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<v Speaker 2>that's on them. Hey cool, I'll do that. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't throw anyone under the bus. Again, I'm want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank him. I want to thank him for having

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<v Speaker 2>to trust in me to share that I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to dox you or anything like that. I also want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank his son. I had a brief talk with

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Junior. He was ten at the time, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was quite a while ago and his memory of it

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<v Speaker 2>had faded, but the bits and pieces that he did remember,

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<v Speaker 2>he just said I asked him how to feel, which

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<v Speaker 2>is real hard for that much time and being so

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<v Speaker 2>young to really grasp at the time because he's just

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<v Speaker 2>a kid and kids and their imaginations and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>But I asked him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what was your overwhelming feeling with this

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<v Speaker 2>thing constantly staring at you? And Ben Junior said he

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<v Speaker 2>felt annoyed that this thing kept staring at him. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I remember thinking I was trying to fish

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm being stared at. I don't like to be

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<v Speaker 2>stared at that kind of thing. So I appreciate him

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<v Speaker 2>and his time, even though it was brief and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really have a whole lot to add to it

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<v Speaker 2>other than answering that brief question or whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 2>thank them both for reaching out sharing that with us.

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<v Speaker 2>What I wanted to share with you today comes from

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<v Speaker 2>It was by request an unspecified village, a young lady

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<v Speaker 2>reached out early twenties, well named Rishiloh. She and one

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<v Speaker 2>of her little cousins, another female in this particular area.

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<v Speaker 2>They were going last year to check on how the

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<v Speaker 2>berry patches were coming, along as an excuse to get

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<v Speaker 2>away from the daily grind and chores of putting up

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<v Speaker 2>fish and all the stuff we do in the village.

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<v Speaker 2>So they took it as an excuse to one look

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<v Speaker 2>for berries, which you're never wasting time there and basically

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<v Speaker 2>get a break from all the younger kids and whatnot. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so Charlotte's going along her little cousin stop at the

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<v Speaker 2>first patch at Tandra, and they're in between. They're out

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<v Speaker 2>in the tundra. There's probably she guestimated it, very intelligent

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<v Speaker 2>young lady, about two miles between tree lines, so away

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<v Speaker 2>far tree line and a way far tree line. They

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<v Speaker 2>were damn near dead center of them, wide open. All

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<v Speaker 2>that was there was like an old wagon wheel trail

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<v Speaker 2>of four wheeler track, just one trail. They stopped at

421
00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the first batch and they were looking a round. Then

422
00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.359
<v Speaker 2>she noticed that all the little berry bushes, the blackberries

423
00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and stuff looked already picked it plucked, not even forming

424
00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.440
<v Speaker 2>or anything. Only a few. Most of them were not ready.

425
00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.480
<v Speaker 2>They were way too green. But she knows there was

426
00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.559
<v Speaker 2>a bunch missing, and she just thought it was odd,

427
00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.680
<v Speaker 2>like they should be developing, and it looks like they'd

428
00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.839
<v Speaker 2>been picked out, because obviously she would know what picked

429
00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:14.799
<v Speaker 2>out area berries.

430
00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Looks like, it's what we do.

431
00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:20.599
<v Speaker 2>So they continue on down this path for about a

432
00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>quarter mile, give her take. She was spitballing into gestimation.

433
00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.519
<v Speaker 2>And they get to another spot and they're looking around,

434
00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and her little cousin, a female, went to the opposite

435
00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.440
<v Speaker 2>side to check, and she gets about thirty yards away,

436
00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and so does Shiloh. Go on the opposite direction off

437
00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.119
<v Speaker 2>this trail because it's like a big horseshoe, and they

438
00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>were just at the apex of the horseshoe. Basically it

439
00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.599
<v Speaker 2>would be probably eleven thirty on the clock, so to speak.

440
00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>So she goes off thirty forty yards, just glancing down

441
00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:52.440
<v Speaker 2>at the tuns. You're looking at the condition of the

442
00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>barries and stuff, and this area didn't look all picked out,

443
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.200
<v Speaker 2>so she was just gauging. Picked a salmon berry was

444
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.960
<v Speaker 2>still it wasn't right yet, but she picked it anyway,

445
00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 2>just to get a little taste of it. So they're

446
00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.039
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and time is going by. They're dinking around.

447
00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Their eyes are down that everyone while should look around

448
00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.559
<v Speaker 2>keeping out for bears. They had the rifle holder on

449
00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.519
<v Speaker 2>the front of the four wheeler with the shotgun on it.

450
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Smart they're ready in case anything happened.

451
00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:21.079
<v Speaker 2>She said her uncle was very intent on every kid

452
00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:24.279
<v Speaker 2>knew how to use the shotgun, load the shotgun. Every

453
00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.960
<v Speaker 2>time they left the village. That shuckun had to be

454
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 2>on the four wheeler, otherwise they did not leave the village,

455
00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.519
<v Speaker 2>which is good in my opinion. Kids should know how

456
00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.839
<v Speaker 2>to properly handle a fire arm in the correct context,

457
00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 2>not just willy nilly. So anyway, ker little cousin she

458
00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>found a really good patch. So she goes and joints

459
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.799
<v Speaker 2>her cousin, which would be let's call it the south

460
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.400
<v Speaker 2>side of the big looping arch of a horseshoe shaped

461
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 2>four wheeler trail that they used to get back to

462
00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.839
<v Speaker 2>their berry picking spots, right, because they only allowed the

463
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.920
<v Speaker 2>one trail, so it wasn't tearing up all the tundra

464
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.160
<v Speaker 2>because this was prime berry patch, very big berry patch.

465
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>So she joins her little cousin. They're sitting there. Her

466
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.319
<v Speaker 2>little cousin's picking a few of the blackberries. They are

467
00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>still a little not quite ripe, but she's just getting

468
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.200
<v Speaker 2>a taste of them. You've got to understand, this is

469
00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:17.319
<v Speaker 2>in the early fall. Nothing's quite ripe. They're just scouting basically.

470
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.680
<v Speaker 2>So they sit there, they're playing around, laughing and joking.

471
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.279
<v Speaker 2>She was early twenties. She's just playing with the little cousin,

472
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 2>just giggling, laughing about silliness that girls.

473
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

474
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Her words? Not mine, So, ladies, I'm not mocking it.

475
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:35.039
<v Speaker 2>So as they're talking, her little cousin had a string,

476
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.079
<v Speaker 2>and they're playing this little game with the string where

477
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:38.839
<v Speaker 2>you put your fingers tough and you make all sorts

478
00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.759
<v Speaker 2>of different which is broom and all this other stuff. Right,

479
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>they were thinking around, just no worries in the world.

480
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>They're in open tunsa. They can see something coming for

481
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 2>literally a mile in each direction. She would look around

482
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>every once in a while nothing, So they're playing this

483
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 2>little string game for a little bit. As they're wrapping

484
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.279
<v Speaker 2>up being in that area, they get back over the

485
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.599
<v Speaker 2>four wheeler and they're gonna they got a couple more

486
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.920
<v Speaker 2>spots to check to bring back a full report. They

487
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go back home with half the information

488
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>at their ass to gather, so they continued down a

489
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:14.920
<v Speaker 2>little further, so it would be approximately about the one

490
00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>one thirty area on this horseshe if we're looking at

491
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it as a clock. So they've already made it most

492
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>of the way, do this loop and again flat tundra.

493
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:27.839
<v Speaker 2>You got the divots and stuff in the tundra, but

494
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>it's wide open. There's not even scrub brushing there.

495
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:31.519
<v Speaker 3>And at the.

496
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Far far end it's a little bit of marsh before

497
00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>it reached the black spruce. So they heard ducks and

498
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>stuff taken off, So they were watching the ducks for

499
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:43.359
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. It was just around the time of

500
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>year where the ducks are starting to fly out. They

501
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.559
<v Speaker 2>watched the ducks take off and circle around land again,

502
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>take off, circle around land again. They saw a couple

503
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>of Canadian geese and they're basically just wildlife watching and

504
00:24:58.119 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 2>checking for berries.

505
00:24:59.200 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 3>What more could you ask?

506
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 2>She said, it was super peaceful. The sun was out,

507
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't cold, but it wasn't overly hot. It was

508
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>just perfect condition for just relaxation. Again, they are literally

509
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>sitting on a four wheeler, looking around them in all directions,

510
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 2>black tundra, nothing there. They fire up the four wheeler.

511
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>They're going down the trail out of nowhere. About fifty

512
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>yards off to their left hand side, there's this big,

513
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.039
<v Speaker 2>hulking figure, approximately nine foot tall at least. She was

514
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to be conservative. She was like, it's a big

515
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>frickin monstery. But the thing of it is that this

516
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>thing was doing this motion motioning towards them, and she

517
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>said it was almost like she fell into a trance.

518
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 2>She said, in that moment, she felt peace. She felt

519
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>like her upper her grandpa was calling her over. It

520
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>was that kind of feeling she was getting from this

521
00:25:54.519 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 2>thing again, this single four wheeler trail with ruts. Order

522
00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to go towards that thing, she had to go over

523
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 2>these bumps to turn away from the trail, and as

524
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>she did that, she bumped her knee and hit it

525
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty hard in a jarring motion. When they were gone,

526
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 2>over the little bumps, and it snapped her out of

527
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>this trance that she had, and immediately she made eye

528
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 2>contact with this thing, she said. The facial complexion was

529
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a milky gray, very wrinkly pitch black eyes. The sun

530
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>was behind them, so this thing was fully lit up

531
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>right there about fifty yards, she guestimated. And now they're

532
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>pointing straight at it. It's not moving, it's just gently

533
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>doing this motion like this. She's out of that trance,

534
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and she immediately recognized was overcome that she had been fooled.

535
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Something was tricking her mind. These are her words, not mine.

536
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Something was tricking her mind into thinking that this creature

537
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>was their friend, initially until she bumped her knee, and

538
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>that snapped her out of it, she said. In that moment,

539
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 2>the realization of what was happening was so overwhelming to her.

540
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Immediately she had tears streaming, and of course she banked

541
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>back up onto the trail and hauled ass right. She

542
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>went and grabbed one of her older cousins that was

543
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the only one around. Everyone else jumped on a skip

544
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 2>from they were doing stuff outside of the village while

545
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd been gone, and so there was just one older cousin,

546
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>a male, and they got her young cousin into the house,

547
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>doors locked, all that stuff. Don't answer the doortll we

548
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>get back her and her older male cousin went back

549
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>out that way. When they get back out to where

550
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it had gone down or whatever, they had no cameras

551
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. She just recently got a cell

552
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>phone when she moved away from the village, so there

553
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 2>was no portable cameras. I asked because there was big, heavy,

554
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>deep impressions. She said it was very reminiscent of the

555
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>pictures Vincent Wassley sent with the tungeer broken with the

556
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:03.039
<v Speaker 2>foot imprint. Older cousin was just, ah, geez, yeah, because

557
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>at first he thought they were just being silly little girls.

558
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a bear was there. They got startled. He was

559
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>looking for reasoning to dismiss the girls because they were

560
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>silly girls, and he was obviously wrong, because I've talked

561
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to this she's very sharp.

562
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 3>And they get there.

563
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>He pops the shotgun out of the holder and they

564
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>go over and she shows them where the tracks are

565
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>and they look and they see the tracks going in

566
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a straight line and standard right one in front of

567
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>the other. They weren't offset, and it literally went back

568
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>towards that pond. Now that pond was a distance away

569
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>because they could barely see it as a sliver at

570
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 2>the distance when the ducks were taken off and flying

571
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 2>around just earlier. So they decide they got the gun.

572
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>She's got a male companion with her to go and

573
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>check it out. He was curious, she was terrified. She

574
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>kept telling them, I told you, I'm telling the truth.

575
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Let's go. Let's go. Let's not be right here, Let's go.

576
00:28:58.480 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 3>He goes, no, let's follow.

577
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Um, go see this thing for myself so I could

578
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>say I saw it and not just have it a

579
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>track in the ground.

580
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 3>She said.

581
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>He was a little older, so that would make him

582
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>going into the late twenties. So they start walking, and

583
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to be alone, so she's stuck by him.

584
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>He had the gun in a hard head to go

585
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and check this situation out.

586
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.039
<v Speaker 3>They walked. They followed the track.

587
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>She said she had to take four steps to equal

588
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>one stride length of this thing. She said, she's five

589
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>foot seven, used to run cross country, so she was

590
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>used to taking longer steps and whatnot. She said it

591
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>was four of hers compared to the one her older cousin.

592
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>The further they got away from the four wheeler trail,

593
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>the more nervous he got. So they got about, she said,

594
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards from the four wheeler. When across that

595
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>pond away they saw this dark figure standing there and

596
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it's doing this number really hard, swaying back and forth

597
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>really hard, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

598
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back after the these messages.

599
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 2>So her cousin spots it just as she spots it,

600
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and he starts waving his hands up with the shot

601
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 2>in his hand. Hey over here, trying to get its

602
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>attention because this thing was it was focused on them,

603
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>but it was it just kept swaying, so he was like, okay,

604
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I see it. That's the hairy man or whatever. They

605
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>start going back towards the four wheeler. As every few steps,

606
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>her cousin was looking back to make sure they weren't

607
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>being followed. But the problem was every time he looked back,

608
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>it was in a different position, coming towards them and

609
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>covering ground rather quickly. So he got her to start

610
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>running and he started running. They got back to the

611
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 2>four wheeler when they jumped on and he put the

612
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 2>shotgun in the holder. This thing was within one hundred

613
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 2>yards already and closing in on them very fast. He

614
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>fired up the four wheeler, had it running in there,

615
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and he felt this thing was just coming, beelining for him.

616
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>So he pulled the shotgun back out and fired around

617
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 2>in the air, racked another shell in, and when he

618
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>shot into the air, this thing did a tumble and

619
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>then tumbled again, then took off on all fours, heading

620
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>about approximately three quarters of a mile to the tree line,

621
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 2>to the opposite side of this huge opening of tundra.

622
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 3>And so they're in awe.

623
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>He feels safer now because it's running away, the four

624
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>wheelers running. She's looking all around for any other ones,

625
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>just for me. The thought of how quickly these things move, right,

626
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>because this thing, they said, it did not stop. It

627
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>hit the tree line, they heard some crashing obviously at

628
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>a distance was just gone disappeared. So they look around

629
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a little more, go back, talk to her little cousin.

630
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>When the other folks came back, the older cousin went

631
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>with other males from the village and they went out.

632
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>If anyone else knows what I'm talking about, I'm keeping

633
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>shows not a real name. I'm not naming the village,

634
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>but she said there was several others part of this,

635
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 2>So if you are one of those, please reach out.

636
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't use her real name of soap any others

637
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>from this particular area. If this sounds familiar and you

638
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>were a part of that, please speak out. So they

639
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>go back with all the older males. Right, he takes

640
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 2>them right to where this thing went into the trees.

641
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>They paired up in groups of two. There was approximately

642
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 2>eight of them, So there's four little groups all armed

643
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>looking to not to kill it, but to make it

644
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>clear it can't come.

645
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 3>They wanted it to feel unwelcome.

646
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, because the way they viewed it, this thing was

647
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 2>awfully freaking friendly and awfully open daylight to keep accosting

648
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 2>younger people, and they weren't going to have it. So

649
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>they hit the trees and they break up into their teams,

650
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 2>safety buddy and whatnot. They got to the backside of

651
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>that tree line and there are some smaller marshes with

652
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>little islands of spruce and stuff.

653
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 3>Right.

654
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>What I mean by an island of spruce is you'll

655
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of muskeg and tundrau and swampy areas

656
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and they'll be just like a little island of black

657
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>spruce streets, and a lot of them are dwarfed out

658
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>from all the alkaline and stuff. They had all these

659
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 2>little patches here and there, and they were checking, never

660
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 2>being thorough once they got to the tree line, because

661
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it was easy to follow the tracks to the tree line.

662
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>But then once it hit the tree line, it was

663
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 2>broken up. And how it was moving it was what

664
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>was told to me. It was sporadic, how it was

665
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 2>going through the trees. I don't know, if it was

666
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>to lose the trail whatever, I don't know. All speculation.

667
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>So they're on the back side and when they were

668
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>at the edge of this tree line, they're looking out

669
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>across the muskeg on the opposite side to see if

670
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it had continued, and they noticed some spots that they

671
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>assumed were its tracks still going away. So they they

672
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>are like, they were happy that it was gone, like

673
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 2>out of the area and still moving away. So they

674
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 2>felt safe enough and they retreated back. Shiloh said that

675
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>two weeks later, three weeks later, someone had some late

676
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>smoked salmon hanging that they had not tended to. They

677
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 2>were busy doing other things and they just hadn't quite

678
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>tended to their smoked salmon in their smokehouse, and their

679
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>particular house is right at the edge of the village.

680
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>The smokehouse mysteriously was knocked down. It didn't look damaged,

681
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 2>it just looked like it was pushed over almost right.

682
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>All the salmon gone. There was some tracks seen, but

683
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the person who saw the tracks was a younger kid

684
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that thought they were bear tracks. Ran told someone, and

685
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw bear tracks. Oh, okay, it makes sense, they envisioned.

686
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>They thought nothing of the Hairyman. They thought a bear

687
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.199
<v Speaker 2>pushed it over, being a brute, just pushed it over

688
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and took the fish. So they were upset about that.

689
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Now they hadn't forgot the Harryman thing, but it wasn't

690
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 2>fresh on their mind. It was a few weeks later.

691
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>So the kid that found it knocked over whatever, went

692
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and told his dad. I grabbed his bear gun and

693
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>went and tracked this thing aways. He got approximately three

694
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards from the village proper where they were at

695
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>on this little game trail, and he was coming up

696
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>to where the trail entered the black spruce and the willows,

697
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 2>and immediately he felt something. It never felt before a

698
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 2>very unnatural fear that compelled him to state. What was

699
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>told to me is this guy knelt down and was

700
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>just trying to find what he felt was what he

701
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 2>felt like he's being watched, and he was trying to

702
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 2>discern where is he being watched from. As he's doing so,

703
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>he noticed his movement. This is big movement in the trees,

704
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>and he thought, God, that's too big to be a bear.

705
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 2>They weren't used to bears that big in there. Big

706
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>bear is in the area, but not that big. So

707
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>from what this guy says, this think came out and

708
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>he's less than thirty yards from this tree line. This

709
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>thing comes out and it has a handful of salmon strips.

710
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 2>But these salmon strips are approximately eighteen to twenty two

711
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>inches long each and they were just looking like little

712
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>pieces of grass sticking out on each end of this

713
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:18.159
<v Speaker 2>thing's big hand. The guy immediately got the hell out

714
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>of there. From what I understand, that was the last sighting.

715
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>That was the last experience. Then this is just last year,

716
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>last fall. There hasn't been anything since. She just moved

717
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 2>away from the village February ish and is currently an anchorage.

718
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to thank Shiloh very much for reaching out.

719
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>A very bright young lady, very concise in what she

720
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 2>was talking about. She knew distance it, all of it.

721
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Very sharp girl. I want to thank her for reaching

722
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>out sharing that with me. I was asking, can you

723
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 2>reach out to you who else you know was there

724
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and see if they'd be wanting to talk. She said

725
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>she would, but she also requested that I make three

726
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>quess so if anyone from this situation and it sounds familiar,

727
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>please reach out. She wasn't gonna throw anyone under the bus.

728
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>She was willing to give me names, and I told

729
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 2>her just hold on to those, Just hold on to that,

730
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'll keep you anonymous. Again, thank you Shiloh for sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch you guys on the next one.