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go ahead and look for Prosents. So one of the

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things I do a lot of rescue work in my

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practice and we always have a dilemma an argument if

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you will, and I'd love to hear you guys chime

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in and what you think is right and how.

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Speaker 3: Should be handled. And that is the following.

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Speaker 2: There are literally thousands and thousands of animals, dogs and

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cats in our nation shelters. The guestimate is that a

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dog or cat is put to sleep in a US

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shelter once every five seconds. Another scary statistic with cats

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is that a cat who ends up in a shelter

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has a less than ten percent chance of either being

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reunited with his family in the case of a cat

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being lost or rehomed in the case of probably an

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outdoor cat that has never had a home, that means

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ninety percent are going to be put to sleep.

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Speaker 3: That is really frightening. So there are a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Rescue groups now, sometimes just general rescues. Some will specialize

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in large dogs and cats and some small.

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Speaker 3: Some are breed.

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Speaker 2: Rescues you can go to you know, German Shepherd Rescue

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or Golden Retriever or Labador Trieve or Rescue, etc. And

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they specialize in certain breeds of dogs or types of dogs.

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I work with two rescues that do a lot of

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work with pit bulls, trying to save these pit bulls,

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but we're often faced with dilemma in that, as we know,

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it's tough to place dogs and one of the limiting

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factors is space. So a lot of these shelters don't

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have rescues, don't have their own shelter, they don't have

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their own facility to do what's called fostering, and they'll

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foster these pets, and now they're running out of foster space.

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So what's happening is decisions are having to be made

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what to do with these dogs, do we take them

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to shelters or not? And one of the biggest issue

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is the deciding based on the limited funds that most

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of these rescues have. In fact, I have yet to

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meet a rescue that has unlimited funds. So at what

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point do you make that decision? At what point do

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you say to yourself the following that I'm a rescuer

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and I have a limited amount of funds. Let's say

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I have five thousand dollars from donations, and I have

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a dog that is going to need two thousand dollars

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worth of veterinate care, and that's at a discount and

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with no guarantee that after this two thousand dollars spent,

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this pet is going to get a home, And also

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no guarantee, especially with very sick animals, that even with

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once that money is spent, that the dog's going to

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be adoptable or the dog is even going to survive

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the treatment. So what point if you have this very,

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very sick dog that's going to need extensive care and

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extensive money spent, do you say, Look, I know I

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have a bleeding heart. I know I would love to

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save them all, But do you know how many more

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pets that are adoptable tomorrow with no help are sitting

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on death row in our local shelter that is not

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a no kill shelter that I can pull out with

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two thousand dollars at forty fifty sixty bucks a pop.

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Speaker 3: At what point?

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Speaker 2: And this is what I try to relay and discuss

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with my rescues all the time. And that is the following.

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We call it herd health mentality. As a small animal practitioner,

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I don't have to practice herd health mentality. Every single

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animal is an individual. Every pet that I see is

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someone's four legged kid, and we treat them accordingly. But

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I have classmates and colleagues that chose to go large

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animal and they're working up in ranches and farms, and

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they're working with ranchers that might have, you know, hundreds

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hundreds ahead of cattle, for example, and these ranchers don't

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have the bond with one animal that is their pet.

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So when there is a certain sickness that starts going

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through the herd, they don't look to try to treat

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every individual animal. Instead, what they do is they try

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to find out, by usually sacrificing that one animal, what

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that could be done to find out the disease, and

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then we'll go and treat or prevent the disease in

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the rest of the herd. So you have to think

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differently as a large animal practitioner when you're dealing with

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large hurts. We call that herd health mentality. And I

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feel and this is me because I've seen it. I've

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seen these rescuers that again have such bleeding hearts. They

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just want to save everyone, and I get it, but

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they spend so much money and it's really throwing it away,

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and that same money could have been put to such

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good use to save so many other lives. Had they

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just said, you know what, this one is.

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Speaker 3: Too sick, too bad.

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Speaker 2: Two week we're going to have to put this guy

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to sleep, and we're going to save all this money

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instead of spending it, and instead we are going to

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end up with pulling out fifty sixty dogs out of shelters.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Do you spend up every single dime you have on

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saving everyone or do you sit back, look and say, okay,

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we have our limited funds. What is the best use

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of these funds. What is the most likelihood that we

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can save the most number the largest number of lives

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with these funds?

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: So I want to hear from you. It's pretty philosophical,

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or isn't it. You know, we're getting into some pretty

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heavy duty stuff. So I'm going to let you all

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it over when we come back from our break. I

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want to hear from you at eight seven seven three

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Speaker 3: Eight eight two.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you would do? What would you do

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if you're a rescuer. Maybe you are a rescuer out there,

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How do you think it's the best way to spend

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the limited funds that you have to help the most

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animals that you can think about it. We'll be right

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back here on pet Life radios. Ask thevets with doctor Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Com And welcome back and here here with Jeff Werber,

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Doctor Werber, and we are just finished talking about some

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rescue work and some very difficult philosophical decisions that many

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of the rescuers have to make and advice that I,

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as a practitioner, have to give them when they seem

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to be so unrealistically focused on helping the one animal

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at the risk of the potential to save hundreds of others.

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Speaker 3: And I love you to chime in.

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Speaker 2: And while you're getting a courage, I don't know why

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it's taken somebody to do so difficult, so much difficulty

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calling us in to share your views, talk to us.

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We are I mean, it's great. This is the only

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want to hear from you. Eight seven seven three eight

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five eighty Dy to pick up the phone. It's Sunday morning.

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Come on, put the bagel down, put the coffee down,

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and give us a call. Let me know what you think.

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The more we know kind of what you think and

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how you think, the more information we can provide you.

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So I think it's a good idea to chime in.

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call in, call in. I want my cong So anyway,

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Speaker 3: We know it's hot out there.

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Speaker 2: Let's face it's been here. I'm sitting here like like

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this is great. Now I'm in La and it's it's beautiful.

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comes up, and I think it deserves some attention, and

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that is you have let's pick the akida or the

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samoy it. I mean, I'm picking these breeches on purpose,

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of course. So you have these really great, thick coated

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dogs and it's summertime. So you take your dog into

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the groomer and you want that summer clip. You want

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that trim, you want that the lion's clip.

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Speaker 3: You know what that is? Right, You basically shave all

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the hair except you leave the head and the tail

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looks like a lion. Are you doing your dog a service?

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What do you think?

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Speaker 2: The one hand, I'd like to hear from you to

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see what you think. On the other hand, you guys

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are so afraid to call that. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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give you the answers. So anyway, the uh when I

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Speaker 3: The issue is this, that thick coat is really a thermos.

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Speaker 2: Now what do I mean by that? Well, you know

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when you have your thermis, good old fashioned thermos, they're getting.

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Speaker 3: A plug here.

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Speaker 2: What happened if you put hot coffee in a thermis?

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Stays hot. Likewise, let's say you put your iced tea

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in your thermos. What's gonna happen to the iced tea.

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It's gonna stay cold. So what the thermist does It

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regulates the temperature of that which is placed inside. If

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something is hot and placed inside the thermist, it's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Stay hotter longer.

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Speaker 2: If it's cold and placed inside thermis, it's gonna stay

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cold longer. That's what the coat. I should confirm A

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healthy coat of these Arctic type breeds does yes when

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they are up in the snow, when they're in Antarctica

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and it is way sub zero freezing, however many degrees

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that coat does keep them warm, how because it doesn't

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let the outside temperature affect the inside. So it does

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its job to maintain that dog's body temperature to where

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it needs to be.

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Speaker 3: Likewise, However, it does.

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Speaker 2: This same thing when it's warm, and that is that

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if it is hot out there, that thick, healthy, thick

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coat will prevent that heat from getting into the dog. Now,

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when does this not work? Well, it doesn't work if

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the coat's not healthy. So therefore, when you have dogs

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like this, you need to brush them regularly. It's very

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important to keep them well groomed and well brushed. Secondly,

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another danger of shaving a dog like this is a following,

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especially which is why I purposely use the samoid as

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one of my examples, and that is the following.

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Speaker 3: You have a dog, a white dog, and.

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Speaker 2: How much sun has the skin of this extremely thick

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coated white dog has seen? Right, this dog? The sun

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doesn't shine on this skin. This skin is not seen

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the sunshine because it's so protected. Ah, So what happens

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when you take this skin and by shaving the dog down,

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you are now potentially exposing this barren, newbile skin if

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you will, that has never really experienced sunshine, and you're

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gonna put it outside in the sun. And can these

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dogs get sunburned?

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Speaker 3: You bet?

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Speaker 6: You?

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Speaker 3: When you look.

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Speaker 2: As an example of squamous cell carcinoma, which is a

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sun induced cancer in cats, what color cat is the

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most susceptible to squame a cell carcinoma.

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Speaker 3: It is the white cat.

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Speaker 2: And even more so, what part of the body typically

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do we see it? We see it in the ears

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because they're shooting straight up. We see it around the

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head that you know, the part of a cat right

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in front of the ears. The hair is much thinner,

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the coat is almost gone. It looks like you're a

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little bald. Well, those are areas that are extremely sensitive

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to sun. How about another condition that we see sun

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induced nasal solar dermatitis. Okay, and where do we see this?

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We see this on the tip of the nose, the

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nasal plan them. We call it of a lot of

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deep pigmented or hypopigmented dogs, for example, some of the

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Australian shepherds, some colligues. We also hear the term collie

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knows but they have all that white right on the bridge.

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So again, these areas are highly susceptible to sun induced damage.

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So you really need to reconsider and think twice when

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it comes to do I should I shave my dog

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down for the summer? So what can you do? What's

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the best thing to protect your dogs from the heat

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during the summer? Long coat, short coat, whatever. Well, first

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of all, if you have a very short coated or

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thin coated dog that's going to be spending time outside,

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you want to use some sort of sun block or

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if you have a light. Obviously don't want to use

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a sweater, but you want to use some because remember

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the same reason that I advocate and don't laugh putting

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the little sweaters on these little teeny dogs during the winter,

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because based on body surface area, they have a greater

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tendency to lose heat to the outside. These same dogs

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have a tendency to attract gain heat from the outside

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during the hot weather. But again, you don't want to

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put something too heavy on them. But if you had

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something light and you wanted to put it on them

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to almost like an you see people walking around with

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umbrellas during the summer, not to protect them from the rain, obviously,

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it's to protect them from the sun and not a

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bad IDEA sunblock would be a very good idea to

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keep them on any area of your dog or cat

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that is going to be more exposed to the sun

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because of thin coat, because of short, short coat. White here,

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when you can actually see the skin, then you want

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to put some sunblock on. And as far as those

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thick coated dogs, what you should do is keep.

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Speaker 3: Them well groomed, well combed.

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Speaker 2: Well brushed, because the coat will have an opportunity to

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do what it's supposed to do when it's healthy. So

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the goal of going in to the groomer shouldn't be

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to shave the dog down. It should be to really

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do a thorough com out, get the mats out, make

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sure the skin is clean and healthy, and then it

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will do better what it's supposed to do, and that

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is to protect your pets from the heat. So don't

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rush to clip your dogs down, shave them down unless

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their skin is in terrible shape, unless it is advised

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by your veterinarian, unless there's no way they're so matted

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because you fell so far behind in brushing that gorgeous

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coat that now you.

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Speaker 3: Have to shave.

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Speaker 2: And then if you do have to shave, keep in

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mind that you want to do something to protect your

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pets from the heat and the sun damage. Provide plenty

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of shade. It's the basics. Water at all times, fresh water.

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If you have dogs that seem to like to play

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with their water bowls because it's a toy, so they

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dump the water. There are some great things you can do.

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There is a device you can hook up to your

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faucet that's licks it that will work very well to

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basically it's like a hamster thing where the water will

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come out only when they lick this device. There's also

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ways to anchor. I've heard a great idea which is

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if you have your dog in your yard where there's

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some dirt, you can take a large bunt pan okay,

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and you know it's got that hole down the center.

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You could take a wooden dowel and you bang it

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into your pretty deep into your dirt or area somewhere

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or grassy area, and then you fill the bowl the

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bunt pan and you set it right over that wooden

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dowel that is now anchored into the ground. So what

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happens is now this bowl cannot be tipped over. Another

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thing you can do is if you have a large bowl,

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you could put some a couple of heavy rocks on

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the bottom and then fill it up all the way.

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Speaker 3: And there are a lot of good things you could

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do well.

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Speaker 2: Another great idea is to fill your bowl the water

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bowl about half to three quarters full when you're inside

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in the evening and stick it in the freezer. So

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in the morning you're going to have a bowl of

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basically a huge block of ice, and then you can

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put a little water on top of that because you'll

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have some extra room, and then as the ice melts,

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they'll have some nice ice cold water. How cool, How

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refreshing is that. And lastly, one thing I like doing

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I recommend this often is you can take a bandana.

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You know, there are a lot of places give them away.

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They're great for your dogs, and you again wet it

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and you roll it up and stick it into the

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freezer at night. In the morning, you now can take

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that ice cold bandana literally ice cold, and wrap around

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your dog's neck and again a lot of nice cool,

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soothing temperature drop. It's going to make them feel really

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good as they're outside in the sunshine. So that's about

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it for us today and for those of you, I

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do want to hear what you think about the rescue thing,

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so you can send us an email to doctor Jeff

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Drjef at Petlife Radio dot com. Drjef at Drjef dot

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com or next week if it's called eight seven seven

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three eight five eight eight eight to two chime in.

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Speaker 3: I know you're up there.

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Speaker 2: I know you're listening, So give us a call and

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let's talk about this because I think it's pretty important

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and I think other people should know. Kind of when

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you see you don't feel bad about some of these

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rescue groups when they have to do what they have

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to do.

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