WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.960 Do you know what real power is? It's knowing you're 2 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:05.719 on the same rate for energy all day, every day 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.640 with a smart all day plan from board Gosh Energy, 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:11.000 save up to eight hundred and eighty euro on dual 5 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:13.519 fuel plus get A two hundred and thirty five. You're 6 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.480 a welcome bonus. Switched today at Boardgosh Energy dot ie 7 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:18.640 board Gosh Energy. 8 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:22.239 Know your power Estimatdanuel bill A twenty six hundred and 9 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.920 twenty nine. Your new customers only thirsch ofcentis Gentov Smart 10 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.160 all day electricity unit rates in twenty nine percent of gas. 11 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:29.839 See porcosh Energy dot E for fulltiesncies. 12 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.159 Oh hello again, it's still your dog, still hiding under 13 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.759 the couch because I ate from the garbage old ally Ward. 14 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.719 Why okay, we're back for part two of Ferrology. Folks, 15 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.759 How Bananas was the first episode? Did you love it? 16 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:45.679 I have heard from so many of you since this 17 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.640 first aired in April twenty eighteen that this is life 18 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:50.719 changing and it is for me too. I think about 19 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.759 this episode all the time. So we're back for the 20 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.640 last half of the interview in this encore presentation. But 21 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.679 fun fact, did you know that you can't spell interview 22 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.880 without review. It's true, and so when you rate and 23 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:05.359 you review and you subscribe ologies, it keeps us a 24 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:08.040 little podcast up in the charts. It helps other people 25 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.560 see it, and then boom, you have more people to 26 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:12.719 talk about this stuff with at dinner parties. And I 27 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.560 read every single one no shame in this week's review. 28 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.680 It was just so kind. This is a fresh one 29 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.840 from December twenty nineteen from Eleanism seven, who says, I 30 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:25.480 love dad Ward in this podcast so much. To yourself 31 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.719 a favor and listen. Many of these reviews will probably 32 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.079 mention how you'll try to cherry pick episodes, but you'll 33 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.560 end up loving them all, and it's so true. I'm 34 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:35.120 not sure how I end up bringing random information from 35 00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:38.879 this pod so often, but it just happens. Zombie ants, pumpkins, 36 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.000 video games, you name it, always waiting for the next episode. Also, 37 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:43.879 if you're like, why does she call herself dad Warp, 38 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:45.920 it's mostly just because there's a lot of bad puns 39 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:48.879 and some well meaning advice and I just love you kiddos, 40 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:50.719 want the best for it. Okay, so let's get back 41 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.040 into it. We learned last week that fear ology it's 42 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.519 a real word. And that stress is just another sneaky 43 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.640 word for fear, which blew my mind, and that fear 44 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.439 is not helpful unless it's factual, and you need your 45 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.439 muscles tense to outrun like an angry animal, and that 46 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:08.400 a lot of our fictional fears stem just from being 47 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.800 not good enough and being out of control. Ah okay, 48 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.759 So this week we'll find out how super successful people 49 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:19.159 approach fear. Mary's scariest hour of her life and what 50 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.240 she learned, plus all of your questions about everything from 51 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:27.039 night terrors to self spookery to shark's bad pr image 52 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.159 to how likely is it that a snake bites your 53 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.960 butt and the best things about following your passions in life. 54 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.879 So sit back, breathe deep, and hold on to your 55 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.639 amignola for fearologist Mary Poffin Wrath. 56 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.280 And it sounds like a Harry Potter name, which is 57 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:03.159 totally fine. 58 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.599 Let's get right into it. Let's talk about what is 59 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:10.039 the most afraid Mary Poffinroth, furrologist has ever been. 60 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:15.680 Do you know the most afraid you've ever been? Let's see, 61 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:16.719 I'm afraid a lot. 62 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.280 Probably one story that pops in MyD and it's usually 63 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:21.759 when you think about all the things you're. 64 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:22.280 Really afraid of. 65 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:26.759 It's like death right of some kind, either like your 66 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.479 death or someone that you loves death, because. 67 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:29.879 Death is final. 68 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:33.520 It's one of those things that generally you can't live through, 69 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.879 and even living through someone else's death is always really challenging. 70 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.199 For more about fearing death, you can see or revisit 71 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:48.280 the episode on Thanatology with Cole and Perry. Okay, sorry, 72 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:49.719 let's get back to a story. 73 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:50.360 Once. 74 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.439 I was doing my graduate work in biology in the 75 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.639 warm mountains of California, which is like very northeastern corner 76 00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:59.919 in the middle of nowhere, and it's like an eight 77 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:01.719 hour drive from the Bay Area, which means that I 78 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.319 had to like go by myself to do live trapping 79 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:09.039 like a lot. And it's I'm probably like twenty three 80 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.400 at the time, twenty four, and it's a bunch of 81 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.240 sage brush scrub which is kind of like a like a. 82 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.199 Tawny blue color, almost like a gray blue color. 83 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:22.399 And I'm dressed in gray field pants and in a 84 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:27.040 gray vest because I'm smart, and it's hunting season because 85 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.079 it's the middle of nowhere, so I'm not by myself 86 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.160 in the middle of like the sage brush scrub, checking 87 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:37.120 my traps, studying the habitat partition of chipmunk species. 88 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.680 So out thirty my thing and hear this like. 89 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.560 Pop pop pop, and I like just hit Like my 90 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.279 initial like you know, reaction is to get super small, 91 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.120 hit the deck like you really really tiny. 92 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:50.279 And at this. 93 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.600 Point I know I'm getting shot at, Oh my god, 94 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.839 but I don't know if they're doing it because they 95 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.839 don't see me or because they do see me. So 96 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.279 and as a woman, the first thing in my mind 97 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.439 is like not death, but like, oh my god, these 98 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.639 are hunters are going to be like cowboys. 99 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:08.240 They're going to rape me. That's like that's where my 100 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:12.240 mind initially goes. And as you do, yeah, as you do, right, 101 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:13.120 and then like okay, what I do? 102 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:13.480 What I do? 103 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:14.839 And I'm trying to get. 104 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.519 Really small under the stage bush grub and I turn 105 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:23.160 over to my left and there's a giant fire ant 106 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.199 hill like right in front of my face. So I 107 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.319 have to make some decisions about my life right now. 108 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.279 The truck that I had is even if I ran, 109 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.920 I'm not a good runner, would be like like a 110 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:36.959 ten minute run to get back to the truck. 111 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.680 So I'm like Okay, do I just stay still? Do 112 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:40.000 I do? 113 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:40.240 Like? 114 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:42.839 Do I? I don't know? Like I can't stay right 115 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.920 here because there's fire ants literally in my face. 116 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.120 And at this point I'm going through all of the 117 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:54.560 scenarios of what could happen and do I deal with 118 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.680 the very real in my face fire ants and just 119 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.399 stay where I am and don't move. 120 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:00.680 Because they might see if I move? 121 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.839 Do I like make noise because maybe they'd be just 122 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:06.920 don't see me because I want to trust that humans 123 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:07.319 are good. 124 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:09.399 You're like, what are what are I motions? And then 125 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:10.279 I'm thinking like the. 126 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:15.279 News right of like young Field Biologists, Warner Mountains, and 127 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.720 this happens within seconds, right, all of these scenarios play 128 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:22.279 out in your head. And I definitely and being alone 129 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:24.800 right because like if I had been with someone else's 130 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.879 ability to reach out would have made everything so much better, 131 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.959 you know, safety and numbers and uh this was like 132 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:33.759 before cell phones were a thing. 133 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.759 So right, and so you're just in nature. I love 134 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.800 nature of a biologists, but also nature is scary because 135 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:44.199 we are not good at. 136 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:48.399 Defending ourselves yet just we're pretty like we don't have things, 137 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.600 we don't have a good ability to do much of 138 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:51.560 anything physical. 139 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:53.319 Yeah, we'll think our way out of it. 140 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.639 Yeah, exactly, good luck, right, Yeah, I mean we got 141 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:56.399 a posable thumbs. 142 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:57.319 That's kind of cool. Help. 143 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.480 And so I think that probably is one one of 144 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.759 like the like scariest factual situation. 145 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:04.920 How did you resolve it? 146 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:07.920 So I kind of like scoot it down again, like looking, 147 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:10.519 I'm kind of you know, like very very tiny, I 148 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:14.360 like to say, uh, fun sized, And I just scooted 149 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.000 like around away from the ants and just kind of 150 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:19.040 like froze there and like wait and then like waited 151 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:20.680 to hear stuff. So they were like in an ATV 152 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.680 which made noise, and just waited for the ATV sounds 153 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.319 to like move away. And I have no idea how 154 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.680 long I was there, but just like made myself small, 155 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.560 did not, like, you know, cause the fighting that wasn't 156 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.920 really gonna help. Yeah, I like flying, I knew it 157 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.759 was too far, so I'm like I will just hide. 158 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:37.879 Oh my god. 159 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.160 What were they shooting at? Do you think point dear? 160 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:45.040 Yeah, it's it's like really middle of nowhere California, like 161 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:48.079 the one town. And by town, I mean there was 162 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.759 a gas station and a bar that was the town 163 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.160 and that was like an hour and fifteen minutes away. 164 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:56.120 Drive Oh my god, yeah, just a quick note. So 165 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:59.160 curiosity got the better of me and I was like, 166 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.680 what happened? If you do bury your face in a 167 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.560 pile of fire ants, what happens? And it led me 168 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.959 to a YouTube video with fourteen million views in which 169 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:14.759 a guy named Coyote Peterson inserts his hands into a 170 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.519 mound of loose sandy soil like he's just getting the 171 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.240 world's worst manicure by thousands of Satan servants giving him 172 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:25.040 itchy lumps and pustules. 173 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:27.399 Let's listen in I'm Kyartie Peterson. 174 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.600 Not about ten to the strike zone with the fire ant. 175 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:31.480 Have you guys ready? 176 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:32.279 You shot? 177 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:32.519 Good? 178 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:33.039 Yep? 179 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:44.440 One, two, three, Holy cow out? 180 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:50.039 Oh oh, holy cow. 181 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:51.480 That's a lot of things already. 182 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:53.559 Anyway, he tries to keep them in there for like 183 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:57.159 sixty full seconds, just like a good cuticle soak, but 184 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.600 he lasts maybe twenty five because he's like, fuck this 185 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:00.480 shit science. 186 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:00.720 Now. 187 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.240 He doesn't say that vocally, but I bet it's in 188 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.039 his head a little bit. Okay, back to Mary, who 189 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.039 were they shooting at and what happened? 190 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:08.919 It was? 191 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.679 It was definitely one of those like I am actually 192 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:14.879 kind of screwed if they if they were shooting at 193 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.039 me because they saw me. But then the reality is, 194 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.279 the chances are they probably were shooting at a deer 195 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:23.799 and not me, and they shouldn't see me because I 196 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:24.320 was all in gray. 197 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.639 And still, yeah, that's I'm going to put that in 198 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.759 the factual. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely it was. You know, 199 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.840 the the getting shot at was super fact. But then 200 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.000 you know, my mind continue to make all different reasons 201 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.000 and in that situation, you. 202 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.879 Know, you don't know, and so I. 203 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:45.960 Just kind of like waited it out until I heard 204 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.440 them like really far away, and then just like took off. 205 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.600 Friendank, God, You're like, do we owe someone money? Am 206 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:58.440 I the mom happening? Is this a political assassination? 207 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:07.080 So yes, even ferologists get afraid it happens. But like 208 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:12.399 super successful, crazy successful people, they must just lack a gene, 209 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:14.559 they just must not feel fear, right. 210 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:17.279 So actually I want to come back this. 211 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.559 At the beginning of the top of the talk, I 212 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:24.120 was saying that there's uh a guy who did some 213 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:29.399 research looking at how what vocabulary was being used of 214 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:34.720 super successful people versus like less than successful or mediocre people. 215 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.200 And like the hyper successful people like the Richard Branson's 216 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:41.120 and the Ed Catmell of Pixar. 217 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.600 And like the I mean wow, have done crazy stuff. 218 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.000 They use the word fear. They use the word afraid, 219 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:51.039 and they use the word scared. No. 220 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:52.759 Yeah, so yeah. 221 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:57.600 Like in Ed Catmill's book that he wrote about creativity, Creativity, Inc. 222 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.759 I think he used the exact backward fear like ninety 223 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:06.200 eight times. Oh my god. And people that are less successful, 224 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:11.200 guess what word they use stress? Stress, shut up? Are 225 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:15.000 you serious? Yeah? Yeah, oh my god. 226 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:18.840 So like like and Camill said, if we're not afraid, 227 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.200 we're not doing our job, because that means we are 228 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:25.440 playing small and we are not pushing our limits. So 229 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.519 learning that fear is something you should run towards in 230 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.159 a healthy way, with those fictional fears, not like you 231 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.639 run towards your mugger, right the hug Yeah, but you know, 232 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:42.519 making those adult decisions, but feeling that fear and being like, oh, okay, 233 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.000 this is maybe an area that I don't feel confident in, 234 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.039 So what can I do to push that a little 235 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:50.679 harder instead of running away from it? 236 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.000 And that is in terms of you know, this is 237 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.600 a different episode, but in terms of phobias like that 238 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:59.399 is why exposure therapy can be helpful. 239 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:00.120 Yeah. 240 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:01.559 Yeah, And there's a lot of work being done with 241 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.480 like VR with phobias and exposure therapy. So it's they 242 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.720 feel a little bit safe, but still their brain is 243 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:08.480 getting trained. 244 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:09.360 It's okay to. 245 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:12.159 You know, get on a plane or wear a sweater 246 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.000 whatever that is to help their retrain themselves. 247 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.440 It would just be me in a spreadsheet. 248 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:23.600 Spreadsheet, breadsheet of phobia, God excelophobia. 249 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:25.120 Yes, I'm so much. 250 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.519 Okay, you're ready for rapid fire. Mm hmm Okay, I'm 251 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.320 just gonna throw these out. You can answer as quickly 252 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:30.759 as you want. 253 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:32.039 Okay. 254 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:36.480 These are from Patreon's patrons on Patreon who support the show. 255 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:37.120 Thanks guys. 256 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.720 Tyler Fox wants to know. Is fear of the dark 257 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:40.720 mostly universal? 258 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:46.440 I would say yes, because as humans we have really 259 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.000 poor eyesight at night. 260 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:49.679 We're a diurnal species. 261 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:51.799 That means that we're going to be naturally, you know, 262 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:55.559 awake during the day, even though in modern arts we have. 263 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:58.320 The ability to have fancy electric light. 264 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:03.480 Our bodies are men to be active hunting in the day, 265 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.000 so at night we would naturally get in our little 266 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:09.639 safe protective area. Whatever you know that would be, whether 267 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.320 that is, you know, a tribal situation or if you're 268 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.440 a primate in your little nest and then we don't 269 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.720 leave because we can't see and there's predators out there 270 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.600 and we can't see that well at night, like walk 271 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.600 into your room or like the bathroom. And this is 272 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:25.120 and when you talk about beer, you want to really 273 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:26.759 try and separate the ones you just are going to 274 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.840 be part of your life forever. So I'm still afraid 275 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.720 to go in the bathroom when it's dark at night. 276 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:32.039 But I don't want to turn on a light. 277 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.360 Because then be able to go back to bed, but 278 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.559 have to pee, And I just keep thinking, like what 279 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.320 if there's what if there's a snake in the toilet? 280 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.120 I live in downtown Nela, y'all, like there's no I mean, 281 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:41.919 I don't live in the tropics. 282 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.159 I mean that's but I just I don't know why. 283 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:45.519 It's like what if it bites my butt? 284 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:45.840 I don't know. 285 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.480 I'm really it's how cute, how cu would be just 286 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:49.600 be like marsh. 287 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:51.840 Night, Hi. 288 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.240 I mean, but the probability very slim. I mean it's 289 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.759 very slim either. Okay, quick note here how probable is 290 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.200 it that a snake will bite your butt? I started 291 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.120 looking into this to prove that it's happened like one time, 292 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:10.240 and the news likes to sell fear, and yes, sure enough, 293 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.799 a family in Seattle a few years ago found an 294 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:16.159 enormous ball python in their apartment toilet, and that kind 295 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.279 of blew the notion up a bit. But then I 296 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.240 started finding more and more stories. Apparently this is not 297 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.759 an isolated incident. So the BBC did a piece on 298 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:29.759 toilet critters and one Australian wildlife worker says that rats 299 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.679 sometimes hang out in sewer pipes, which is like so 300 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:37.120 on brand for them, and the snakes follow the rats. 301 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.360 They're just like walking hamburgers. So this guy gets called 302 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.279 on about four or five times a year, and he 303 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.919 was like, not vague about his feelings. He said, quote, 304 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.840 it's the worst job. You get a toilet bowl that's 305 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.080 been there thirty forty years. We see the bit that 306 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.320 gets cleaned, but the rest of it doesn't. So when 307 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:55.919 you go to pull the thing out of there, it's 308 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.919 not fun. I usually have a bottle of disinfectant with me. 309 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:02.159 He said all of that in a very charming wildlife 310 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:06.120 Australian accent. Okay, So then I scrolled through a large 311 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:10.200 volume of images online of things in your toilet that 312 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.559 should not be in your toilet, and I found photos 313 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:18.679 of very wet baby bunnies, a dazed and sopping squirrel, 314 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.320 and dozens of bright green toilet frogs that had just 315 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.080 sauntered up a pipe after a rainstorm. So it happens, 316 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.960 but it's still rare, and most of the time just 317 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.120 think of it as a universe delivering you a new 318 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:32.039 temporary pet. 319 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:35.440 But it's one of those things that I think about 320 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.519 and be like, Okay, it's irrational. 321 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.320 I'm just gonna just let it go. And so. 322 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.240 And part of it is when you go into a 323 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.200 dark room, it's you don't know what's going to be there. 324 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.120 And this is why when we look at horror movies 325 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.720 and the tropes that are in there, they're very specifically 326 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:54.960 tapping into those natural fears, you know, Like horror movies 327 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.279 are usually dark and there's a spooky house or there's 328 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.440 a corn field, and it's not like bright, sunny, beautiful day. 329 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:02.159 Usually it's like dark. 330 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:03.679 So that you can hide in the shadows. 331 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.600 Yeah, they're never like they never take place in like 332 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.919 a brightly lit wal Mart or something. 333 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.279 Or thought that might be a good one. 334 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.080 Yeah, that strikes terror in a lot of people, I'm 335 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:19.159 sure tofer Mendoza wants to know. Is fear a learned behavior? Says, 336 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:20.480 I used to be afraid of a lot of things, 337 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.399 and then my belief structure change. Now I find it 338 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:24.519 really hard to be scared by things that are supposed 339 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:26.240 to be scary. 340 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.279 So with fear, there's both, like we're saying, fictional and 341 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.000 factual fear, So we're always going to have a natural 342 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.919 fear response. So at the top of the hour, we're 343 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.600 talking about stressors versus stress So as those stressors change, 344 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.240 we can have a different perception of how we're going 345 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.480 to react to those stressors. And everyone's gonna have a 346 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:49.639 little bit of a different tolerance for dealing with different stressors. 347 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:52.039 So you can learn to be more afraid, you can 348 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.840 be you can learn to be less afraid. But you're 349 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.799 always going to have fear in some way, shape or form. 350 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.399 It might not be something you dealing with daily, right, 351 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:05.599 like that factual fear of having your life physically threatened, 352 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.279 or someone that you love that you know you're out 353 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.279 of you know, control to impact it or you know 354 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.480 those kind of fears. Hopefully you're very minimal in our lives, 355 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:17.000 so really the fictional fear is where we can do 356 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.759 the most work and we have the most impact. So 357 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.319 it sounds like the Patreon there was able to do 358 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.279 that work with the fictional fears and start whittling down 359 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:31.119 their reaction to those things that are not directly impacting 360 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:35.160 their ability to survive and even within factual fears. Like 361 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:39.279 you look at military training where they're trying to get 362 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.799 people to move past what their initial like fear reaction 363 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:43.880 would be with you know. 364 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.559 Someone literally coming to pretend kill them. 365 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:51.079 Military training involves something called fear inoculation, which is getting 366 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.039 exposed to scary ish situations in kind of small amounts 367 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.160 until you're just no longer shocked by them, you're just 368 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.440 kind of over it. So how do they do this? 369 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.680 They simulate battle via in this kind of blew my 370 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:09.680 mind paintball and laser tag, which now totally justifies my 371 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:13.599 dislike of these recreational activities. If someone's like, hey, it's 372 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:16.039 Saturday afternoon, you want to go do mini golf or 373 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.880 like eat pancakes on a patio or pretend to kill 374 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:20.920 each other with lasers. There's one of those things that 375 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:22.240 I'm like, no, I'm good. 376 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.839 And that's training and it takes a while. But to 377 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:28.319 say that even a highly trained Navy seal is not 378 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.839 afraid is ridiculous. They're still they're going to acknowledge it, 379 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.039 but they're going to have the skills in training to 380 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.400 move past it to do what they need to do. 381 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:38.599 It'd be interesting to make a list of the things 382 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:41.359 that scare you most, or the times you've been most afraid, 383 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.480 and go back and think, was there an actual danger there? Yeah, 384 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.359 you know what I mean, And how would I handle 385 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.799 that fear in hindsight knowing I'm thinking about the times 386 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.279 I've been most afraid, and yeah, I think about like 387 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.559 the centrifuge, and I'm like, yeah, no, I didn't need 388 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:55.000 to be afraid. 389 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:55.720 Even the mugging. 390 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:58.519 I got through it. I threw my purse really far. 391 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.359 I distracted them. I'm memorized your plates. I took them 392 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.279 to court. Like you know, it was not a pleasant 393 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:08.000 experience and I had ptsc for a while, but I clearly, 394 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.440 you know, I think that if I if you look 395 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:13.759 back on all the times that you've you've been afraid 396 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.079 and thought, well, I handled it and so I survived. 397 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.480 You know, then it almost feels more empowering. But you know, 398 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:25.559 Jordan s wants to know weird and dumb question, why 399 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.200 does anxiety slash dread give us that stomach achey crampy feeling. 400 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:31.480 I understand the racing heart and fast breathing, but I 401 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:35.319