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<v Speaker 1>Just what is pure and authentic faith? What is the tale?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us me?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure of course I can tell you. So please everybody

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<v Speaker 2>check this blood from Times of Israel dot com. H

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<v Speaker 2>that gives me lots of trust. And it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be extremely funny when you try to see the excuses

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<v Speaker 2>that apologiest gives and I can only laugh at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me quote from the article. When the Bible says

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<v Speaker 2>we were formed in God's image, it essentially talks about

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<v Speaker 2>our god given ability to think independently of our bodies. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>ability to think. Keep this in mind because whenever people

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<v Speaker 2>say this, they kind of ignore the fact that, in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, the Bible is a combination of several

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<v Speaker 2>stories in which humans were made in the physical image

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<v Speaker 2>of the Creator, minus the understanding of good an evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Read your Bible. That's why when humans ate the fruit

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<v Speaker 2>of knowledge, they became like the Elohim, which are the

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<v Speaker 2>council of gods that have created them. And thus they

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<v Speaker 2>got expert from the garden of Eden. That's why when

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<v Speaker 2>they eat the fruit god quotation Mark says, oh, now

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<v Speaker 2>they are like us, because now they understand the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between good and evil. Therefore, whenever they say, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the image of God is that they can think they

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<v Speaker 2>are lying because they didn't have the ability to think,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least to understand good and evil, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they were not able to understand mistakes, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>not able to understand morality, amongst many other things. And

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<v Speaker 2>try to understand that became the original scene. Why do

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<v Speaker 2>I mention this because they don't even realize that they

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<v Speaker 2>are contradicting themselves when they say, I'm quoting again from

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<v Speaker 2>this article. And yet one of the fundamental principles of

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<v Speaker 2>becoming godly and serving God is accepting His authority in

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<v Speaker 2>complete and pure faith. Our connection with God is reflected

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<v Speaker 2>in the strength of our faith. So literally, they are

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<v Speaker 2>saying that faith is not thinking, just asking them to

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<v Speaker 2>obey and avoid thinking, the total opposite to what they

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<v Speaker 2>said in the beginning with the oh yeah, God's image

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<v Speaker 2>God giving ability to think independently. Don't you do this

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<v Speaker 2>scenic contribution? What do you think for real? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>am I gracing here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, I I have a I think faith

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<v Speaker 3>is the most dangerous thing a person can have, because

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<v Speaker 3>there is nothing that you cannot end up doing because

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<v Speaker 3>of your faith. Because there's no because of when you

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<v Speaker 3>have faith in something, there's no evidence to support you.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if you think that God is giving you

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<v Speaker 3>a message to go and do something, if you have faith,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to go and do it, no matter how

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<v Speaker 3>atrocious or horrible it is. Now, fortunately, most people that

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<v Speaker 3>are that believe they do good things out of their faith,

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<v Speaker 3>but there are also there it's easier to be destructive

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<v Speaker 3>than it is to be to be good, and the

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<v Speaker 3>destruction does more harm. And so when somebody decides to

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<v Speaker 3>be destructive because God says so, it's really damaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly, Yeah, it's it's it's it takes a lot less

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<v Speaker 1>time to tear something down, and it just does to

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<v Speaker 1>build it up, doesn't. That's for sure. Right, I'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you on that one. This this whole article

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<v Speaker 1>started out on a bad note to me, And the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that I noticed was the same exact quote

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<v Speaker 1>that Tao just mentioned. And what got to me was,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we possibly think independently of our bodies? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do that? Isn't every thought you have

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<v Speaker 1>come from your brain, which is part of your body? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any kind of thought of your own that

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<v Speaker 1>is independent from your body. And then from that point

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<v Speaker 1>on it just got nuttier. Right, The whole article just

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<v Speaker 1>got nuttier and nuttier and nuttier.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

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<v Speaker 1>He at one point he used to train for an analogy,

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<v Speaker 1>and all I can think of was, Man, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is on the crazy train, right. And then later, as

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<v Speaker 1>I got near the end, I realized, no, that this

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<v Speaker 1>article was just a train wreck in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I couldn't believe how horribly bad the logic was

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<v Speaker 1>in this and to think that, and he keeps reiterating

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<v Speaker 1>it throughout the whole thing, that faith is so much

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<v Speaker 1>better than thinking things out, and I just appalled by it.

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<v Speaker 2>More.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to add, yeah, I've got that. When he says, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to thought tail go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, that's how bad it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Just I wanted to say, you say logic, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure that that word means what they Okay, I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to mention many things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they want to believe that there is that

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<v Speaker 2>the mind and the brain and not the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously not thinking it's easier, and they if they

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<v Speaker 2>can say that it's magic. Oh, there is the need

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<v Speaker 2>of a gash. But okay, they say so many things,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned one that I want to I want

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<v Speaker 2>to quote quotation Mark to be honest, I think in

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<v Speaker 2>person will be fine relying on faith because even the

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<v Speaker 2>most rational person can reach this conclusion through reasoning. So

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<v Speaker 2>as you see, they are saying that by faith you

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<v Speaker 2>can be rational, when being Russian is what have brought

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<v Speaker 2>most of us out of religion and made lose faith.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when to say us talking about Killian, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm talking about myself, and I met several Christians

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<v Speaker 2>who ex Christians who have gone through these why right

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<v Speaker 2>of understanding logic, understanding critical thinking, realizing how faith their

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<v Speaker 2>faith was. Aaron, I don't know if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>take the take your train back before I continue, because

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<v Speaker 2>I have many things to say.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm going to tack on what you said there

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<v Speaker 3>that I could not understand what his argument for this was.

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<v Speaker 3>His claim is that any rational person is going to

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<v Speaker 3>come to faith, it's going to have faith. But he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make any arguments about to support that claim. He

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<v Speaker 3>just kept making claim after claim about things that like

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<v Speaker 3>the train, I just have no words. I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>even know what the logic behind this article was. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>I think his thought process was I don't understand this,

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<v Speaker 3>so it must be God. When we don't understand something,

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<v Speaker 3>it must be God. And I don't agree with that

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<v Speaker 3>logic at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's in there, right, I'm sorry, you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just saying the same of you. It's God

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, it's either God or a bunch of tiny horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh, yeah, that was the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have to have an explanation for something, right,

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't know, we have to have an explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to have an explanation. The answer can't ever be

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. So we've been talking about this pair

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<v Speaker 3>of this analogy that it makes about the trains. The

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<v Speaker 3>analogy was that a train comes to a farm farmland

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time. This is the first time these

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<v Speaker 3>people have ever seen a train, so they have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea how it works or anything like that, and so

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<v Speaker 3>somebody comes up to and asks, let's go inspect this

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<v Speaker 3>train to figure out how it works. And they're saying

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<v Speaker 3>to themselves, well, it must be horses, right, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>the only way you can get around that fast with horses,

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<v Speaker 3>So they must have horses somewhere in this train. And

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<v Speaker 3>they look and they look and they look, and they

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<v Speaker 3>obviously they can't find any horses. And so their conclusion is, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't find any horses, so it must be a

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<v Speaker 3>really mighty miniature horse that's running this train.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't have any evidence to support that.

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<v Speaker 3>The only conclusion is I don't know how the train runs.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's continue to investigate.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell But you know, the big problem here is that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't realize this. They destroy their own argument because

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<v Speaker 2>they say, Okay, it's tiny horses, and we must have

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<v Speaker 2>faith that is tiny horses in the same way that

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<v Speaker 2>they must have faith in God. And they don't realize, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go and educate those people in what an

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<v Speaker 2>engine is and how it can make the train move,

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<v Speaker 2>they will stop believing in tiny horses in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that people if you educate them properly, they will

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<v Speaker 2>still believing in silly stuff like God. And I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say, whoever who wrote this stupid thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this article, they don't think much about anything, they said.

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<v Speaker 2>Quotation mark. A fifty year old professor can explain his

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years of knowledge and experience to a two year

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<v Speaker 2>old even though it's all relative. And I love this

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<v Speaker 2>word relative because it makes me think of certain guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you have heard of Ainstein. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>give him some quotes. I have no idea what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to quote it is for him or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>I found it on the internet, so it must be true.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite quote from Ainstein is if you can't explain

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<v Speaker 2>it simply, you don't understand it well enough. This is

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<v Speaker 2>to say a guy with fifty years of professor, a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty year old professor whose job is to explain things, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they can explain things to little children because they can

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<v Speaker 2>make it simple because they totally understand it. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you, guy writing this stupid article don't understand something

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean other people don't understand things either. It only

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<v Speaker 2>means that you don't understand something. So yes, a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years of professor should be able to teach some of

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<v Speaker 2>his topics. Obviously, he's not going to spank his whole

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<v Speaker 2>life or hours and hours teaching boring to death to

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<v Speaker 2>a little child. But he can explain some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that he knows in a very simple way. So

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<v Speaker 2>the whole train of thought, train of thought of this

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<v Speaker 2>article is derailed awful. Yeah, Kelly, I see without job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know if he even realized he was

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<v Speaker 1>destroying his own argument with that train analogy. You know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you just gotta have faith, you know, because faith was

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<v Speaker 1>really good. It can even lead you to tiny horses.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it seems like a stupid argument to maker

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<v Speaker 1>stupid analogy. So I'm not even sure the guy understood

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<v Speaker 1>that he was like really tearing up his own argument

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<v Speaker 1>by using that. Right. And you mentioned the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not being able to say something to a two year

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<v Speaker 1>old and if you can't explain it to a five

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<v Speaker 1>year old. That is so true. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that one of my good for one of

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<v Speaker 1>my good geologist friends, he's retired. He was getting bored

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't know what to do with himself. So

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<v Speaker 1>he started teaching at the local elementary school, actually at

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic school. He's not a Catholic, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>anyway because they had an opening and he was teaching

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<v Speaker 1>these little kids, and he actually brought them into our

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<v Speaker 1>store because we have a huge, huge selection of rocks

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<v Speaker 1>And I was able to teach the kids stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk to these kids in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>they understand, and you can see the lights start to

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<v Speaker 1>shine in their eyes when they're getting it right. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the coolest things that I've ever done

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<v Speaker 1>is teaching science children teach it, teaching these concepts that

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<v Speaker 1>even some adults don't get and breaking it down and

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<v Speaker 1>showing kids how it works. And they are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than you can give them that most people give

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<v Speaker 1>him credit for. So that really bothered me that he

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<v Speaker 1>was like and and I mean to use a two

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<v Speaker 1>I think he went. He was like bringing it to

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<v Speaker 3>My thought was, who explains their life worth life work

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<v Speaker 1>Right? I didn't even think that, Yes, if he's.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's making it, I think he's making an

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<v Speaker 3>the two year olds Compared to God, God knows everything

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<v Speaker 3>and we're just little two year olds that know nothing. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like God isn't quite as omnipotent as he

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<v Speaker 3>is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? So they it's all because yeah, if that's what

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<v Speaker 2>God can create this vast and precise universe with seven

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<v Speaker 2>and mind. And this is literally the meme we cannot

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<v Speaker 2>understand God. So let me tell you exactly got God

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<v Speaker 2>what God thinks? All right? God once and also only

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<v Speaker 2>seven billion people. So I guess there is no life

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way he invoked Pharaoh too, because who

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest, baddest bad guy before Hitler? It was Pharaoh, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it was so so I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>ever to highlighted that you have to be evil evil

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't being God believe in God. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in God, while you're as bad as Pharaoh. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my horrible person, you right, And it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>this underhanded insult that anybody who ed an atheist to me? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then right after that he goes into disparaging education.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we can all figure out why, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because higher education is in fact the enemy of faith. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of that old Steve Martin joke. And

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<v Speaker 1>pearly gates and you're thinking, oh wow, man, in college,

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<v Speaker 1>they told me this was all bullshit. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only part of this piece that actually really

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially, he's saying, you don't need to be educated, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to learn stuff. Faith is better. All you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do is have faith that you're right. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you not get pissed when you hear stuff like that, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really don't want me.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're saying is perfectly reflected. When that's a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The writer goes, unquote, who was it? Rabbi Menachim Mendel

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<v Speaker 2>of cod Kids something like that, who said I do

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<v Speaker 2>not want to have faith in a god that is

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<v Speaker 2>understood literally is saying that he wants to be irrasianal.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to understand. He just wants to have faith.

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<v Speaker 2>And they even say faith as an inference of intellect

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<v Speaker 2>is not faith at all. It is intellect entirely limited

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<v Speaker 2>by ones thinking, almost as if knowledge that saying that

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge is limited was something bad when you need the

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<v Speaker 2>flaws of that. But no, faith is infinite, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe whatever you want. All right, that's so awful, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you can continue this line of thought. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I imagine this article came out because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how how old this gentleman is. He as kids,

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<v Speaker 3>but I imagine that either his child or his grandchild

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<v Speaker 3>came up to him and was asking them all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>How come this? How come that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I can just see him, well, because we have

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<v Speaker 1>to have faith more and.

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<v Speaker 3>Got all angry, and I've said about these plain and

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<v Speaker 3>simple questions that a two year olds asking, and when

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote this article as a rebuttal to all the

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<v Speaker 3>tough quesquestions that people ask of religion, and and he

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<v Speaker 3>does not succeed in making making this argument. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>like his whole point is stop asking questions and just

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<v Speaker 3>accept things on faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you have to know how everything works?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there were you know, there was one other

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<v Speaker 1>thing and it got me angry too, just right near

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<v Speaker 1>the end. It was the idea that if your life

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<v Speaker 1>isn't good, it's okay, it's actually good anyway. All you

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<v Speaker 1>need is that faith again, right, You just got to

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<v Speaker 1>have faith in God and everything's fine, that's all. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just what a load of crap, What a load

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<v Speaker 1>of crap does somebody who's suffering from depression. Oh, all

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do is have faith in God and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's it's infuriating to me. It's an infuriating

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody who who supposedly is educated could spout this

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, reinforces the notion that if you're if you're suffering,

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<v Speaker 3>it is because you're not obedient enough, or you're not

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<v Speaker 3>just have to work harder it and that's that's just

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<v Speaker 3>not the reality, right, That's not how our bodies work

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<v Speaker 3>and our brains work.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, yeah, yeah, I was going to say, what

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<v Speaker 2>can you expect from our religion that says that being

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<v Speaker 2>punishing you because you did not want God wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, well we're gonna have to start wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>it up here. We're getting there in the end. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time with you guys, man, I tell

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<v Speaker 1>It was wonderful meeting you, and we're going great to

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>we can before we wrap it up here, Tayo, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to finish the show.

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<v Speaker 2>With, Yeah, I love being here with you guys. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>you are such an awesome dude. I'm happy that I

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<v Speaker 2>got to meet you and Kelly. I always enjoy being

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<v Speaker 2>with you, so thank you on Profits for allowing me

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<v Speaker 2>to be here. I love you, I love the public,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron, Yeah, the same thing. It was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>fun talking with you, with you guys about about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Tayo is great to meet you. Kelly is great to

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<v Speaker 3>meet you. I hope I look forward to coming back

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look forward to it. I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>working with you again too. Eron, I had a bless

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<v Speaker 1>with you today. That's about it. We're gonna wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everybody for watching and listening, and

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