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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Raised by Giants discussion. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>He is a usaf VET with ten years of animation

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<v Speaker 1>collaborations with Wu Tang, and publishing comics under the name

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<v Speaker 1>Paranoid American since twenty twelve. Paranoid American, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it, man. Paranoid is ever, maybe maybe more so

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<v Speaker 2>now than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, we got a lot going on. We got

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeffrey Epstein files, we got the UFO files, we

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<v Speaker 1>got Jim Carrey being a clone, we got War with Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a never ending frenzy of things that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>change every single week.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if you can I like how War came

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<v Speaker 2>after Jim Carrey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, War after Jim Carrey. Then before that we had

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<v Speaker 1>the Winter Olympics, and then we had the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just every week, dude. It's something the community has

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<v Speaker 1>become a twenty four hour, NonStop news cycle, just like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that we were against. I don't make that

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love this because I'm gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>tie almost everything that you've already talked about back into

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<v Speaker 2>Disney as we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, Disney is so interesting. There's so many different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Disneyland being built on a burial ground. I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard that one before. You know anything about that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a cemetery at Disneyland in California, which was

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Michael's Episcopal Church and cemetery, like ten minute walk

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<v Speaker 1>from Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 2>Disneyland is also the scene of the most horrific death

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<v Speaker 2>to occur on Disney property to date. I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the theme parks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, which one was that?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a follow up for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It's Roger Rabbit's Wild Ride. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if they that's the name of it was the Roger

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<v Speaker 2>the who framed Roger Rabbit Ride. It was called like

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<v Speaker 2>cartoon cars or something. And somebody got caught under one

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<v Speaker 2>of the cars and kind of turned into like a

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<v Speaker 2>human crayon and died from it. So come do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit. Yeah, I think that there's been ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty deaths at both of the theme parks. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember a few years back when Disney was being sued

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<v Speaker 1>over a wrongful death lawsuit because a woman had a

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<v Speaker 1>fatal allergic reaction at a restaurant at Disney World, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Disney lawyers tried to say that because the husband

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<v Speaker 1>had previously agreed to Disney's online terms of service when

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<v Speaker 1>you signed up for a Disney Plus account.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's wild when you've created like an entire universe,

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<v Speaker 2>an entire reality to yourself, because that's what Disney's done, right,

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<v Speaker 2>They've created this reality and then people go into that

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<v Speaker 2>reality and they die and then I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's an interesting conversation of like, is Disney somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>participating in like horrible things that are happening to people

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<v Speaker 2>for fostering this, you know, this different reality that they

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<v Speaker 2>claim exist. Like for example, there's recently, in like last

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<v Speaker 2>two or three years, all of these people that are

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<v Speaker 2>basically deciding that they want to leave life early, and

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<v Speaker 2>they make plans and they go to Disney and there's

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<v Speaker 2>specific places within Disney resorts that they decide to be

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<v Speaker 2>like their their last spot. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That was reported that several people have thrown their

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<v Speaker 1>family members ashes into some of the rides. Well, I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About like the people themselves are like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Century Hotel and jump off because my

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<v Speaker 2>last moments are going to be at Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>Who like it's super dark. There's also the theories and

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<v Speaker 1>rumors and speculation that Disney Land has massive underground tunnels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Disney World Orlando has some of those same theories too,

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<v Speaker 2>because they do have underground tunnels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they use it as the excuses that it's for

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<v Speaker 1>the actors to give from one place to the other place.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kathy O'Brien, i MK Ultra Monarch survivor, said that

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<v Speaker 1>she was taken to Disney and part of these underground

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<v Speaker 1>facilities underneath Disney. But it's been rumored and speculated that

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World is built on top of a hidden military base.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so there's actually a lot of extra credit to

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<v Speaker 2>that because when I worked at Disney for ten years

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<v Speaker 2>on the back lot while it was basically Hollywood Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>It started as MG and then turn to Hollywood Studios,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was in the roy O Disney production building,

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<v Speaker 2>which is right next to the animation building back there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both of them have and replaced by store

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<v Speaker 2>Wars Wars rides at this point like a toy story ride.

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<v Speaker 2>But that the guy that I worked for, his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>was in charge of the entire back lot when Walt

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<v Speaker 2>Disney was building the actual Walt Disney World, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the contractors from the blueprints and the construction and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all military contractors like that, the people that

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<v Speaker 2>built Walt Disney World were literally building military bases when

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't working on Disney World. So it's made in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that you would expect any military base.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also why it was treated as a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>high value target right after nine to eleven. In the

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<v Speaker 2>early two thousands, it was sort of seen as like

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<v Speaker 2>a major target, not just because it's Disney, but because

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<v Speaker 2>it was essentially a military base.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you think about it, that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the easiest way to protect top secret

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<v Speaker 1>military installation is to put it underground and then the

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<v Speaker 1>top of it be something completely different. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what they were empting to do during World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two was hide their infrastructure from enemy aircraft, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So they would make these domes and then there were

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<v Speaker 1>like these underground shaped igloes and stuff to hide their

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<v Speaker 1>ammunition and stuff. So, hey, it's possible. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do if I was trying to hide

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff, I would just build something really popular on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the thing that I'm trying to hide.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can justify any sort of power usage or

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<v Speaker 2>resources or traffic in and out. Yeah, it can all

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<v Speaker 2>be justified.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very interesting, and not only that, just the

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<v Speaker 1>layout of I mean it's I'm pretty sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>was Disney World. That it was supposed to be an

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<v Speaker 1>actual liveable city EPCOT.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it actually stands for oh, what was it,

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<v Speaker 2>Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow or something, And it was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a city that you would it was

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<v Speaker 2>a fifteen minute city. You would live there, you would

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<v Speaker 2>work there, and if you had any issue, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were too young to work but you were too old

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<v Speaker 2>to go to, like if you were aged out of

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<v Speaker 2>school or if you were a retirement age, you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>really welcome there. It was for productive members of society only,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was supposed to be like an experimental And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've still have a lot of this in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not necessarily Disney. But there's like retirement communities

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<v Speaker 2>right Like there's a Margaritaville, the retirement community that they've

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<v Speaker 2>got everything, they've got a grocery store, and they've got entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you don't have to leave this little kind of community.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no longer you have to work there in order

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<v Speaker 2>to make it thrive. I think that's the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that never really would have worked in Waltz version of

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<v Speaker 2>Epcot because he would have had to have controlled an

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<v Speaker 2>entire economy and kept that economy within that bubble of

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<v Speaker 2>that entire Epcot city as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of sounds like Scientology.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that what would have done way better with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he was more disciplined in his approach

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<v Speaker 2>to occultism than l Ron Hubbard ever was.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you think about it, like, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what scientology tried to set up. I mean, they bought

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<v Speaker 1>a whole like section of Florida, and they wanted them

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<v Speaker 1>to run all the businesses. The people that are a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the church work there, the people part of

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<v Speaker 1>the church. Yeah, you know what I mean. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>that entire thing set up to where they control the

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<v Speaker 1>entire like everything to do with that section of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's funny, there's like something ironic that scientology.

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<v Speaker 2>And without going too far in tangent, let me just say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna include Mormonism in this too. Well, just

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<v Speaker 2>focus on Scientology, but like they are, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most forward thinking sci fi aliens exist, other planets exist,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple dimensions of reality exist. Those religion are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the newest that acknowledge that. Yet both of them didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see the Internet coming, and for both of them, the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet is their ultimate downfall. Like the world without USENET

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<v Speaker 2>exposing Scientology in the nineties would be a completely different world,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for Scientology. But we got the one we got,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've kind of been exposed, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge blow that they didn't see coming. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not really a great way around it yet, like they

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<v Speaker 2>still are figuring out how to pivot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked by a Scientology center in San Francisco a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago, or maybe it wasn't San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in California, and nobody was in there. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>was empty. And that's what it kind of seems like

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<v Speaker 1>is going on in clear Water in Florida as well,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's like nobody there, Like no one's running

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<v Speaker 1>any of these songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise is gone. Like, I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>they've got as their Plan B. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Plan B left for Scientology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it kind of seems to be over, but they

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<v Speaker 1>still somehow own all of the properties and they're still

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<v Speaker 1>somehow able to pay the bills. Of all of these

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<v Speaker 1>Scientology centers that they I don't know, it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's probably gonna just kind of like Mormonism too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they both shifted political because now Scientology's biggest asset

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<v Speaker 2>is likely whatever they got in Operations snow White, where

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<v Speaker 2>they infiltrate CIA archives and basically the biggest infiltration of

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<v Speaker 2>an intelligence operation on domestic soil and history. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that probably has bought them a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of leeway. They got a little bit of room

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, is there any connections here between Disney

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<v Speaker 1>and scientology before we get into your presentation.

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually say, mummy Mormonism is probably a better

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<v Speaker 2>connective tissue there for similar reasons, but also the contributions

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<v Speaker 2>of Mormon artists and Mormon writers and even in the

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<v Speaker 2>contribution of the field of three D and CGI. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that again comes from like these forward thinking scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would explain the Warner von Braun becoming

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<v Speaker 2>Like he understood that, like okay, the connecting with nature

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<v Speaker 2>but he I guess he didn't like appreciate that. And

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see that time and time again where he'll try

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<v Speaker 2>really his thing, even day Malay, where a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time he gets falsely accused of he was a mason

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like with an asterisk a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he did not join masonry afterwards, it

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<v Speaker 2>probably go to scientology and get audited and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like learn the techniques and then be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to go clear like I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>tools that you guys are using to operate with, and

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<v Speaker 2>for my own purposes. See you guys later. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like that was a little bit more Walt Disney's style,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also why I think that he was more

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<v Speaker 2>reserved and more successful than say, like an l Ron Hubbard,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Walt Disney wasn't, you know, like what like they

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<v Speaker 2>they both made major moves, but I think Walt Disney

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<v Speaker 2>was really guided by something like deeper seated, like like

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<v Speaker 2>he was actually trying to make some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there's any truth to Walt Disney

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<v Speaker 1>and the cryonics conspiracy that he was because that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first ones that I ever heard about Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that he's frozen. Frozen family has completely denied it

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<v Speaker 2>any any like serious look into it. I've seen, like

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<v Speaker 2>it all basically points to know he definitely didn't that

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<v Speaker 2>he's like entombed toever, I know that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>rumors that he's basically buried somewhere under there, like under

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<v Speaker 2>The more than I've looked into it though, this is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because if you go into modern cryogenics, they basically,

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<v Speaker 2>like in the you know, twenty first century, now, the

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<v Speaker 2>concept is a last in, first out methodology. So like

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<v Speaker 2>if you went in there in nineteen seventy or nineteen sixty,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not coming out for a really, really long time,

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<v Speaker 2>because the idea is that if you've been in there longer,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got more freezer burn. So we'd rather thaw somebody

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<v Speaker 2>out that was just putting the freezer like a week ago,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a good chance that will have less complications

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<v Speaker 2>with dealing with freezer burn than if you like pick

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<v Speaker 2>someone out from the back of the freezer, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So let's just assume that, yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>is in there, he's gonna be one of the last

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<v Speaker 2>people to ever exit the freezer if that were true,

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna be he's gonna be sitting on ice

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's even one that I heard that his body, well

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<v Speaker 1>not his body, but his head, his severed head is

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<v Speaker 1>underneath Castle in disney World or Disneyland or whatever. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard that one?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun I haven't heard that one. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun one, I guess the most fantastic one that I

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<v Speaker 2>really like. And I choose to believe this for a

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<v Speaker 2>number of reasons, but that Walt Disney himself thought that

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<v Speaker 2>he had been kidnapped as a child and that he

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<v Speaker 2>was royalty. He was basically a Disney princess in his

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<v Speaker 2>own mind growing up. And the FBI found out about

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<v Speaker 2>this complex that he had where he thought that he

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<v Speaker 2>had like royal blood in him and how could I

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<v Speaker 2>possibly have come from these idiot parents kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the FBI finds out about this and they make

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<v Speaker 2>him a deal, and they basically say, hey, Walt, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you know this, but you're actually from

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<v Speaker 2>royal blood. You were you were kidnapped, or you were abandoned,

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<v Speaker 2>or you were adopted when you were a little kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were raised by basically foster parents, but your

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<v Speaker 2>real lineage is Spanish royalty, like you are literally like

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<v Speaker 2>you were in line at some point to be king.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'd love to tell you more, but we need

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<v Speaker 2>your help first, and Basically, what they wanted him to

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<v Speaker 2>do was to be the inside intelligence for the animation industry.

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<v Speaker 2>The same way that they kind of had like the

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<v Speaker 2>Anti American Act and like the McCarthyism was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>root out, say, communists in Hollywood. There was a similar

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<v Speaker 2>endeavor for the animation world because they saw artists and

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<v Speaker 2>these animators as maybe also being you know, sort of antagonists.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one of my favorite ones though, is that

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<v Speaker 2>he himself had always seen himself as a Disney princess,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just see this story coming out over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again in the stories that Disney selects to produce.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. I like that. And then the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>used that against them and then came in and basically

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<v Speaker 2>And the point of him being a special agent in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that is factual. There's documented evidence that he

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely made special agent in charge. Now we're just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about you know, subjective rumors about like like well,

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<v Speaker 2>how did that conversation go and what was the payoff?

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<v Speaker 1>That is very interesting. I like that one. So there

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<v Speaker 1>is documentation evidence of him working for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was originally uncovered in a book called Hollywood's

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Prints. I might I might be flubbing out a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but it was the unofficial Disney biography, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the claim originally came out. The family denied

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<v Speaker 2>almost everything in that book, which I understandably, so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it seems like it would check out. But

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<v Speaker 2>this one particular claim about him being made specially Agent

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<v Speaker 2>in charge by j Edgar Hoover personally, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>letter that was found. The Orlando Sentinel is the local

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<v Speaker 2>newspaper here, and they actually discovered, Yes, here's a paperwork

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<v Speaker 2>from the FBI stating that Walt Disney was Special Agent

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<v Speaker 2>in charge. Wow, which is like making you a special

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Golden Star deputy. It's like when they say

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<v Speaker 2>Shack's a sheriff. It's sort of like the same level.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Steven Seagal is a sheriff.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Elvis was that as well, Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But it's it's real. It's not fake, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>actually do have some realistic power that goes with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't mean that you're leading like a drug

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<v Speaker 2>rad or like you know, busting open doors or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But you absolutely are working for the state that at

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<v Speaker 2>that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's really interesting. How to look more into that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really cool. All right, brother, let's get into this presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me that code word so I can throw this

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<v Speaker 2>Blue dolphin boom. So okay. I've been doing this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. It started because Sam Tripley had me

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<v Speaker 2>on his show. There was like, long story short, there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a guest that was going to come on

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about Disney. I had no idea what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it fell through or something happened to in

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes, and they reached out to me and they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, you work at Disney. You talk about

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<v Speaker 2>occult stuff. Can you talk about a cult Disney? So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like all right. I just kind of put

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<v Speaker 2>some rough notes together and the episode did fairly well.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of my now friend, Matt Komogy's, who has

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<v Speaker 2>do an episode on Fantasia with me. And we did

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<v Speaker 2>that and we had so much fun that we decided

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<v Speaker 2>let's just watch every single theatrical length Disney animation ever

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<v Speaker 2>created and break them all down. So we've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>that for a little over two years now. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're about one hundred and twenty in and we've made

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<v Speaker 2>our way from the nineteen thirties to like twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty eighteen or so. So a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>notes I've been taking, I just keep refining them each

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<v Speaker 2>time I watch a new movie. I have a list

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<v Speaker 2>of how many people die and which movies and how

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<v Speaker 2>they die, and whether or not the parents die, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of I'm tracking a lot of death because

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a few different theories that I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to refine a little bit. So I'm going to present

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so first off, I'm just gonna jump to this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of post Disney being actively involved in everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's got a lot going on at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But Donald and Mathemagic Land is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>occult Disney animations that you'll probably ever see ever that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably ever has been produced or ever will be produced.

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<v Speaker 2>So I figure I just jump right to a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the cream on top. If that's what you're interested in,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the one that you start with, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a breakdown of Pythagorean everything, music philosophy, ratios, how

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<v Speaker 2>attribute it to art, and golden ratios, it gets into

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<v Speaker 2>sacred geometry. So the reason that I want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up first is that it's not like Disney is

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<v Speaker 2>sneaking this occultism, like you won't know it, like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to really look out for it. Na Man, out

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the companies, out of all the occultism

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<v Speaker 2>that you've ever seen integrated with cartoons or books or

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<v Speaker 2>movies or anything, Disney puts it on its sleeve more

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody. I don't feel like, at least the Wall

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<v Speaker 2>era Disney up until the Renaissance, which is usually like

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<v Speaker 2>mid nineties. Once you get into like the Pixar era,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of this gets obscured, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>occultism just kind of sits by the wayside, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a little bit more secretive, but Disney og

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<v Speaker 2>Disney was Rosicrucianism for babies, like every single movie was.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's another way to teach your kids about Rosicrucianism,

423
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<v Speaker 2>which makes sense because again Disney was Dame Mole, and

424
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<v Speaker 2>I think that he was putting these like really occult

425
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<v Speaker 2>and esoteric teachings into the movies that he was selecting.

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<v Speaker 2>So Donald mathemagic Land is the number one, and then

427
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<v Speaker 2>the other one that comes up the most is an

428
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<v Speaker 2>episode of duck Tails called Yuppie Ducks. This is post

429
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<v Speaker 2>like Walt's dead already, right, like Disney's a completely different

430
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<v Speaker 2>company at this point. But there's this scene that says,

431
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<v Speaker 2>ask about Illuminati in the background when Scrooge McDuck goes

432
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<v Speaker 2>to see the doctor, and funny that the context of

433
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<v Speaker 2>this is that the reason he's rich is because he

434
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<v Speaker 2>exploits government social services because they're free. So he like

435
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<v Speaker 2>the joke is that even though he's rich, he's still

436
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<v Speaker 2>going to this poor hospital at the free clinic and

437
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<v Speaker 2>he's taking up their resources and like getting in line

438
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<v Speaker 2>in front of the poor people. It's part of the

439
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>joke of this episode, and it says, ask about Illuminati

440
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<v Speaker 2>in the background. So these these are just the two

441
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<v Speaker 2>ones that come up. But again, like this one maybe

442
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<v Speaker 2>is an example of Okay, there's some hidden you know,

443
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Illuminati occult references, but Donald and the mathemagical Land, there

444
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<v Speaker 2>is nothing hidden. It is straight up telling you, like

445
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<v Speaker 2>this is a cult, is a and these are important

446
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<v Speaker 2>lessons to integrate into your reality. So those extreams.

447
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<v Speaker 1>That one is really in your face ask about Illuminati? Wow?

448
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<v Speaker 1>And this was in nineteen eighty nine.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty nine. This is season three, episode thirteen of Ducktails.

450
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<v Speaker 2>And I have I swear I have done some serious

451
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<v Speaker 2>research reutalizing all my Disney resources and connections. I have

452
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<v Speaker 2>no idea who the background artist of this panel was,

453
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>or why, or how or any of that. I just

454
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that it exists, because this is specifically the

455
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing that keeps me interested in conspiracy theories,

456
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:45.880
<v Speaker 2>is just seeing weird little nods of like what do

457
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<v Speaker 2>you mean to ask about Illuminati? And Ducktails from nineteen

458
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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine, So this is fascinating to me. Let me

459
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<v Speaker 2>let me go back and again to re emphasize early

460
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<v Speaker 2>Disney was not a culting knowledge. They were presenting occult knowledge,

461
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>but they were like putting it in your face. For example,

462
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<v Speaker 2>the very first Snow White nineteen thirty seven. This is

463
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<v Speaker 2>the first theatrical length animated movie in history. Right, there

464
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<v Speaker 2>was an earlier nineteen thirty three Snow White starring Betty

465
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<v Speaker 2>Boop by the Flight Fleischer, but this is the first

466
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<v Speaker 2>theatrical length and the very first scene when we see

467
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<v Speaker 2>the evil Witch here the evil stepmother. She's walking up

468
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<v Speaker 2>to the magic mirror, and the magic mirror is surrounded

469
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<v Speaker 2>by the horoscope, right, it's all like this astro theology

470
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>sort of domain that she's in charge of. And also

471
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<v Speaker 2>when she walks up, this is one of those fun

472
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Mandela effect things whereas people think that it's miror mirror

473
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<v Speaker 2>on the wall, it's magic mirror on the wall. But

474
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<v Speaker 2>before she even says magic mirror on the wall, she

475
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<v Speaker 2>actually says like slave behind the glass. Like she like

476
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<v Speaker 2>the very first time she addresses this mirror, she calls

477
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<v Speaker 2>it her slave. So this is the entire premise of

478
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>snow White, is that she is this magic witch and

479
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>she's using dark magic versus Snow White, who's using like

480
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 2>this pure nature magic. And then also on this right

481
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 2>side here this big peacock throne. I think this is

482
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 2>a nod. There was early Sumerian beliefs of the peacock

483
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 2>actually saw it as bad luck because the peacock feather

484
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>resembled in a single eye, so it became like this

485
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>evil eye which was associated with another like a black

486
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 2>magic but like a very specific Sumerian flavor of black

487
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>magic that gets into the Mediterranean. But not necessarily in

488
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 2>like Greek or Roman interpretations. So again, and we're gonna

489
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 2>see a whole lot of this in countless examples. So

490
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>right off the bat, there is nothing being hidden in

491
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 2>terms of the esoteric and the occult knowledge in the

492
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>very first Disney movie, and then you're also gonna see

493
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<v Speaker 2>this very constant theme with pretty much every single Disney

494
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<v Speaker 2>movie for the next like four to five decades, few generations.

495
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<v Speaker 2>And that's like, these princesses, one of their inherent traits,

496
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<v Speaker 2>if they're a true princess, is they can talk to nature.

497
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>And more specifically, it's not that anyone can talk to nature,

498
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just them, and that's what again makes them these adepts,

499
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like that they're ready to become magical, but they're still

500
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of growing into it. A lot of the Disney

501
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>protagonists don't realize how magic they are, and that's exactly

502
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 2>what happens with snow White. The very first scene is

503
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 2>that she goes out into the well and she starts

504
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 2>to make a wish into the well and she wishes

505
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that she had like a prince Charming, and her wish

506
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>immediately comes true because he shows up right next to her,

507
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>and she runs away, And one of my favorite interpretations

508
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>of this is that she wasn't running away from the

509
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>strange man. She was running away from the fact that

510
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>she just scared herself with how potent her magic was.

511
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That she made a wish and it immediately came true

512
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't know how to come to terms with that.

513
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't snow White based on something like much darker?

514
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, yeah, I've got I've got a few examples

515
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of it. It gets kind of dark. A lot of

516
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 2>my interpretation to these two are like very politic, like

517
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 2>real things that were happening politically that get expressed through

518
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 2>folklore over hundreds of years. So okay, the Rosicrucian aspect

519
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>of snow White is that these seven dwarves are actually

520
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 2>these Earth elementals there they live underground and they capture

521
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 2>these gems, but they they can't really appreciate the gems.

522
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>They're just utilitarians of them. They're just these things that

523
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>they go and get because they're Earth elementals. But when

524
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>snow White comes in, snow White represents human intellect. It

525
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>represents this like Rosicrucian higher order of thinking that gets

526
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you closer to the source if you can elevate far enough,

527
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>so when she interacts with them, she helps elevate them.

528
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>She helps give them some of that spirit, and in

529
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>exchange they give like all they have to really offer

530
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>her are these gems, Like that's kind of what they

531
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 2>work in. And then it's also interesting they all wear

532
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 2>these liberty caps, so there's a little picture of mythra.

533
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 2>You can see a lot of cults, especially like ancient

534
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>mystery schools, they'll all have these little liberty caps. So

535
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was just a coincidence that these

536
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>become some of the very first sidekicks in any Disney movies.

537
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And then this is just a weird note. I'm still

538
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.519
<v Speaker 2>to this day trying to find the original source of this.

539
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>This was quoted in Wicked, It's still there now in Wikipedia,

540
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>and I've seen it cited in a couple books, but

541
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>I haven't found anything beyond according to the original Grim

542
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>sources that in one of the original stories pre eighteen ten,

543
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>the dwarves bring snow White back to life by hitting

544
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>her thirty two times with magical hammers. And I feel

545
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 2>like there's there's got to be something to that. But

546
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 2>uh so, here's here's a couple of the dark backgrounds

547
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 2>behind snow White. One of them is a possible both

548
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>of these ladies were poisoned, a right, both of them

549
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 2>died from poisoning. Margaret von Waldack fifteen thirty three. And

550
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 2>this one's interesting because her dad owned a bunch of

551
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>copper minds in the region and a lot of early

552
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 2>mining and this is gonna come up in Pinocchio too.

553
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>A lot of early mining they just hire children because

554
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>children you have to you have to make the holes

555
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>as big, right to get those little kids like down

556
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 2>inside the mines. So they would literally just hire seven

557
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>year olds. And I think at one point they passed

558
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a law and it was like, okay, seven's crazy, you

559
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 2>got to be at least ten. So then it was

560
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>like ten year olds are working in these mines, and

561
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>that there was a village nearby that's still calls it

562
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>snow Snow White Village. And in that Snow White village, historically,

563
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>if you were a child working in these mines, they'd

564
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 2>put you like twenty to like a little you know,

565
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 2>barracks essentially. So some of the archetypes that develop over

566
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 2>the next four hundred years that bring us the Disney

567
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>version of snow White that's developing over real stories about

568
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>children living in minds and they kind of turn into

569
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>like like euphemistically turned into gnomes earth elementals that are

570
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>down there finding diamonds. Like. No, they were seven year

571
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>olds dying from you know, black long and from like

572
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>sulfur poisoning. But that's one of the background stories. And

573
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>then she dies from being poisoned, just like snow White

574
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>eats the poison apple. And then there's another version, even

575
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more recent, Maria Sophia Earthl She was

576
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 2>born in seventeen twenty nine. She was also poisoned, and

577
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>her family also owned mine that were attended by kids,

578
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean kids just worked in minds. But another thing

579
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>is that she had this mirror called the Talking Mirror,

580
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and that you can still see it today. It's in

581
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>a museum called like the Spesser Museum. And there's a

582
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>couple of different rumors about how it got this name

583
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 2>talking Mirror. One of the rumors is the most mundane one.

584
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>It was that it was just so crisp that you

585
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>could see so well and it was so true that

586
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it basically could only speak the truth, and therefore it

587
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was like a talking mirror. That's lame. I don't really

588
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>believe that one. The premise on this one. I think

589
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>if you actually go to this museum, they say that

590
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>when this was originally created, it was an acoustic toy

591
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>that also doubled as a mirror, so that if you

592
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>were to yell at it, it would reverberate in a

593
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>way that you could hear your voice come back out

594
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>of it, so that it was literally a talking mirror.

595
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>So that that might be another one of these different premises.

596
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.359
<v Speaker 2>But again, both of these ladies were both poisoned both

597
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of their fathers. This is real. Both of their fathers

598
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 2>owned minds in the area in which Snow White, the

599
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 2>original place took place, and they had children working in

600
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>those minds that would be represented by these gnomes. So

601
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 2>there's there's other ones too that we're going to get into.

602
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.679
<v Speaker 1>You could almost rewrite that as the colbolt mines that

603
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>we currently mind right now.

604
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>If you got a cell phone, yeah, then then basically

605
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>then the earth elementals have exchanged. You gave them human

606
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>intellect and spirit and they give you a cell phone.

607
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. We could rewrite that, sure, bros. Phone is the

608
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>scream here.

609
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Bro, here, here's a little bit deeper, just as like

610
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>a little taste of like the occult Disney angle. So

611
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>there's also a story from he Owe and her name

612
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>means snow in Greek, and it's also been translated a Winner,

613
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>but basically a Greek version of snow White that obviously

614
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>predates the fifteen thirty three version, and basically she compares

615
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 2>her beauty to Artemis the Hunter, and that offends Artemis

616
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>so much that Artemis kills her. So the original story

617
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of snow White is that the step mother is essentially

618
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the old Crone archetype, and she is threatened by the

619
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>beauty of snow White. In the Greek version, Artemis is

620
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.599
<v Speaker 2>being threatened by the beauty of a lady named snow Also,

621
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Artemis is the hunter. In snow White, the evil stepmother

622
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>hires the hunter to go out and kill snow White.

623
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>So you've got another It's just it's an interesting blending.

624
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>So if it's not a direct adaptation, which I don't

625
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 2>think it is, at the very least, it's like a synchronicity. Right,

626
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like the same archetype that people keep bumping into

627
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and it keeps making sense to where it's never going

628
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to die out, like you're going to keep seeing the

629
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 2>story play out over and over again. So I've from

630
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>between the two historical aspects, and then this, like Artemis

631
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>as the evil stepmother aspect, snow White just feels like

632
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>a reverberation of the same story over and over. You're

633
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>not You're not gonna get your kids to go and

634
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>see the story of Artemis. But they might go and

635
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>see snow White from Walt Disney or whatever the new

636
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>iteration of that's gonna be SpongeBob something or other.

637
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, SpongeBob under the C two point zero story of Artemis.

638
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 2>So here's another example of a real story that kind

639
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>of gets hidden tangled, which was just a version of Rapunzel,

640
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people know Rapunzel. It's the girl

641
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that puts the hair down out of the tower and

642
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>the guy goes up and he climbs it. Well, it's

643
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>interesting is that both of those stories are likely based

644
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>on a real historical figure as well, called Saint Barbara.

645
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>If you ever heard of the city Santa Barbara, she

646
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>is literally it was named after Saint Barbara. A lot

647
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 2>of people don't realize that she's the patron saint of artillery,

648
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 2>which is why you'll usually see her with cannons or

649
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>sometimes rifles. If it's like a modern thing, there's usually

650
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 2>going to be a tower in the background, just like

651
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Rapunzel that she lived in, and there's a lightning strike.

652
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>So the premise of Rapunzel is that she gets locked

653
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>up in the tower and they're trying to like prevent

654
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>their virgin daughter from getting knocked up. Essentially, right, if

655
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>you're just going to oversimplify it, that's kind of the story.

656
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 2>In the story of Saint Barbara, it was her dad

657
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 2>was a pagan and she wanted to convert to Christianity,

658
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't want that to happen because Christians were

659
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.400
<v Speaker 2>starting to like, you know, flow through the nation. So

660
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 2>he ends up locking her in a tower to prevent

661
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>her from going and turning into a Christian. And you'll

662
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>see on a lot of the towers they'll actually have

663
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like the little like Holy Trinity symbol to show that

664
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 2>even when she was locked up, she was still in

665
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>this search of becoming a Christian because of like everything

666
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>that she was doing. Her dad finds out about this,

667
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>he gets her out of the tower, beheads her, and

668
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>then he's immediately struck down by lightning and he dies.

669
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 2>So this is where you'll see Saint Barbara is Rapunzel,

670
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>is this artillery goddess, and the artillery being that her

671
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>death was immediately avenged by the gods through this lightning strike.

672
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So now any form of lightning or firepower, explosives, gunpowder, bullets,

673
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 2>they're all attributed to Saint Barbara, who again is Rapunzel,

674
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 2>who ends up in a Disney movie called Tangled.

675
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that supposed to be a true story or a

676
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>myth of Saint Barbara?

677
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's it's supposed to be a true story,

678
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.159
<v Speaker 2>not a myth. And of course I think it's probably

679
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>been embellished, and you know, through syncretism, it's kind of

680
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 2>meshed with other stories over time a little bit. But

681
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I do believe that the core of that is true,

682
00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 2>that a pagan dad locked his daughter up and then

683
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>when she went against his word, he killed her, and

684
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>then he got he died from a lightning strike. All

685
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like something that could reasonably happen in the

686
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>real world, you know.

687
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like Christian propaganda to me.

688
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>So here's another here's a more fun version of Disney

689
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Villains and Chernobog. And the first thing to note is

690
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that this is from Fantasia, and this is a night

691
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>on Bald Mountain. And if you look at the silhouette

692
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>of Chernibog when he has his wings up, because he's

693
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 2>like a legitimate demon, his his name translates to the

694
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>black God, and he was a Slavic Germanic entity, which

695
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>we're this is gonna get kind of deepier. But look

696
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>at the silhouette and you'll see that that silhouette is

697
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 2>repeated by Disney in a lot of their other villain designs.

698
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>The one that's the most obvious is Maleficent, so you

699
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>can see, like Mollficen's head is the exact same shape

700
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>as the wings of Chernobog. And this is intentional what

701
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Fantasia does. And I really believe this one strongly. Fantasia

702
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>is a literal magical spell that Disney cast onto the

703
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 2>world to create a fit like a reality, to make

704
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the Disney world a real world, right like like it's

705
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>it's an actual thing that exists in a way that

706
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 2>me and you could be dead for one hundred years

707
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and no one will ever remember either of us have

708
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>ever existed or anything we ever said, but Disney, the

709
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>company and the corporation, they will They will outlive almost

710
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>anyone on the planet right now. So in that way,

711
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like the spell worked, and that every time someone watches Fantasia,

712
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>or any time a new movie comes out that uses

713
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a theme from Fantasia, whenever I'm a Lificent remake comes out,

714
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just recasting that spell over and over again and

715
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>just making it stronger each time. And I think that's

716
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 2>that's almost how you can interpret most Disney movies, is like, oh,

717
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>let's time to put another spell on real quick, and

718
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 2>it all starts with Fantasia.

719
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, that makes sense because you're totally right,

720
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Disney and Disney movies will outlive probably everyone. And always

721
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>thought that that would be interesting. What if someone in

722
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 1>two hundred years just stumbles across the random movie Have

723
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you ever seen the movie Galaxy Quest?

724
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tim Mallen.

725
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, where these real aliens come down and they

726
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 1>think that the show that these people were about was

727
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>about real events. They think they were real space ship

728
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>people going around, you know, killing aliens in space. Like

729
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what if that would actually happen in like two to

730
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>three hundred years in the future. People take a lot

731
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 1>of these movies that we've made as like historical documents

732
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and historical fact If.

733
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>It were Disney and it were nineties or pre nineties,

734
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>then they'd still be right. I don't know if Galaxy

735
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Quests would be as accurate, but I feel like Disney

736
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>was is accurately retelling real things that happened that just

737
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 2>turned into mystery school stories. And then mystery school stories

738
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>over thousands of years turned into old wives tales and

739
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>stories that Grandma would tell the youngins. But they're essentially

740
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the same accurate stories being told over and over again.

741
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 2>And then here's another example of how Chernobog. And again

742
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>this is not like, oh well, Disney is sneaking in

743
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you know these these evil references. No, this is all

744
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 2>completely out in the open. No one ever denied this.

745
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 2>There's interviews with the music director that said why he

746
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 2>picked all of these different songs. And for example, churnal

747
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Bog is also the name of a mountain called journal Bog,

748
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and journal Bog had the name of Hell and Devilstone,

749
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and that also there's this area around this Zernobo, which

750
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 2>is where they said there's ancient objects. There's a place

751
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 2>called Devil's pulpit, devil's window, and a sacrificial cauldron. So

752
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 2>these this is a real factual place that the chernobug

753
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>demon that they decided to depict in this episode of Fantasia.

754
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 2>This is like some of the oldest cult like word

755
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>like black magic worshiping cults that they decided to kind

756
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 2>of archetype this after. So none of this is just

757
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 2>by accident, and it's all really fascinating to me. So

758
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>this it's gonna go a little bit deeper. I'm not

759
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna just straight up read it, but if you look

760
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.719
<v Speaker 2>into the region itself, these weren't just regular Slavs. These

761
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 2>Slavs end up becoming part of eastern Germany. So the

762
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>reason why this is important is because look at all

763
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>of the early Disney films outside of Pinocchio, a large

764
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 2>majority are Grim fairy Tales, and Grim fairy Tales were

765
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>largely Germanic folklore, and the Grim fairy Tales was second

766
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>only to the Bible, so in terms of sales, in

767
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>terms of popularity, and I would even argue that when

768
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the Grim fairy Tales were out, if you had Grim's

769
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 2>fairy Tales and you had the Bible in your bookshelf.

770
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>There's a good chance you read Grim's fairy Tales more

771
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>than the Bible, because you had to have the Bible,

772
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Like everyone had to have a copy of the Bible.

773
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you could be like someone would be like, hey,

774
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 2>how come you don't have a copy of the Bible? Right,

775
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you had Grim's fairy Tales, it was likely

776
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 2>because you were actively reading it, or you're reading it

777
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>to kids, or you were reading it yourself. Like this

778
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 2>was like incredible, Like it was the only Harry Potter

779
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that existed. Right. So, the popularity of Grim's fairy Tales

780
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>paired with the German identity crisis that was going on

781
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>at the tail end of the nineteenth in the early

782
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>twentieth century, combined with Walt Disney repopularizing Grim's fairy Tales

783
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.440
<v Speaker 2>all over again through his animation in the nineteen thirties.

784
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I've then there's a strong argument here that like all

785
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 2>of this kind of like comes to a head. And

786
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that Walt Disney started World War Two,

787
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 2>but he invigorated, he helped invigorate this you know, Germanic

788
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>nation that had been going through an identity crisis, and

789
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.559
<v Speaker 2>then was all of a sudden popular with the entire

790
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>world over who and we're gonna we're going to return

791
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>to that too, because it's gonna come up again a

792
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.159
<v Speaker 2>few different times, which is a you know, the the

793
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Werner von Braun and Heinz Haber who also came over

794
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 2>in paper Clip. He doesn't get as much recognition, but

795
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>he also had a kids show on the Disney Channel.

796
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these original stories originally from Germany,

797
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>these original fair.

798
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Grim fairy tales, and they would they would often go

799
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to Grim fairy Tales. Disney has a they would revisit

800
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Grim for a lot of their inspiration on early movies.

801
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>And I'll go into some non Grim fairy Tales ones too,

802
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.519
<v Speaker 2>but that was definitely all all sort of Germanic or

803
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 2>at least like Slavic Eastern European folklore. That essentially, if

804
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you're not familiar with Grim fairy tales, the Grim Brothers

805
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 2>were actually historians, and before the fairy tales, they wrote

806
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the history of Germany like they were like the the

807
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>number one book on Germanic history, and they basically applied

808
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the exact same level of research and detail to folklore,

809
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 2>so they weren't just guys that were interested in stories

810
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>that people were telling their kids. They were actively trying

811
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to reconstruct an entire cultural identity that had been lost

812
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 2>for however long, hundreds or thousands of years.

813
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 1>It seems, wow, that's super fascinating.

814
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna we're gonna keep going on to Oh

815
00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>and another fun little fact is that there is this

816
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>was discovered in two thousand and eight, but there's some

817
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 2>sort of an astrological alignment where you can witness the

818
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Winner solstice at the actual Churnobog location at the very

819
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>top of this mountain called the Hand of the Gods.

820
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, there this specific location in which Fantasia and

821
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Chernobog are introduced, like the very first Disney villain. Essentially

822
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>that there's all sorts of astrological alignment to it, so

823
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's probably just a coincidence. And then here

824
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 2>is a quote from Deams Taylor. Deams Taylor was the

825
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>master of ceremonies in Fantasia. Since it's essentially like a musical,

826
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 2>He's the one that decided what music would go in

827
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and he said quote Bald Mountain, according to jurdition, is

828
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>the gathering place of Satan and his followers on Wahlberger's Night,

829
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of our Halloween. So he is talking about

830
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>why they included this scene because they wanted something to

831
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>represent a Satanic ritual by name. This isn't trying to

832
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>read between the lines. This is literally the guy that

833
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 2>put that song and that scene in there. And then

834
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>if you want to go on a whole Wallburger's tangent.

835
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's essentially like the movie, the A twenty four movie.

836
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm flanking on the name, but the may Day not hereditary,

837
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>but it was the other one that's essentially just another

838
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 2>variation of this Wallburger's Night. And then Midsummer there you

839
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 2>go with wicker Man, like all of the like, these

840
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>were all different variations of a similar, similar ritual that

841
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 2>happened at the same time, either like the day before

842
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.800
<v Speaker 2>the day after. There's also a Satan John's Day. And

843
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>then here I told you we were gonna we're gonna

844
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 2>keep going back to World War two and like these

845
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>interesting notes here, and you mentioned the Olympics when we

846
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 2>first started talking. Interesting this is a fun one to

847
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>come up on trivia night. The first television tower in

848
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the entire world ever in human history, the first television

849
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>tower was built on the Brocken, which is the mountain

850
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>in which Wahberger's Night was actually being celebrated, in which

851
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Churn of Bogs depicted that actual mountain in real human history.

852
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Was the first television station antenna to ever be erected,

853
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was erected by the Nazis specifically to broadcast

854
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics one time, and then they took it down.

855
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>So they erected an antenna on Devil's Mountain just to

856
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 2>broadcast the first television broadcast ever and then took it

857
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>back down again. I just I find that endlessly fascinating.

858
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I knew that the TV was of the Devil.

859
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Paranoid American, seriously, add this one to your notebook. Man,

860
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 2>This one is uh, it's it's hard to disprove because

861
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 2>it is so well documented because of the Olympic aspect

862
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.599
<v Speaker 2>to it. Okay, here's another fun one. So let's get

863
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 2>out of grim for a second. Now we're going to

864
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 2>get into Italian occultism. So we got Pinocchio. Some people

865
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 2>have rightfully connected the story of Pinocchio to the Golden

866
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Ass and long story short, it's that if you reject

867
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>an education, if you reject logic and reason and the

868
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>ability to think with your mind, then you're going to

869
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>be forced to work with your hands. That you're going

870
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 2>to become a beast of burden if you can't elevate

871
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>your mind. That was sort of like this very high

872
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 2>ambitious political version of Pinocchio and of the Golden Ass. However,

873
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Pinocchio gets even more a cult and specific than that connection.

874
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>That one's a strong one because they follow almost the

875
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>same beats where they leave school and he goes into

876
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a circus, and then it starts, you start turning into

877
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>an animal, and you actually become a literal beast of burden. However,

878
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the guy that wrote the real og Pinocchio story, it

879
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>was Carlo Lorenzini, and he had a pen name but

880
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 2>in Lorenzeni. In addition to writing Pinocchio, which came out

881
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.159
<v Speaker 2>in political newspapers at the time, it was he was

882
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>basically like a strong political activist that was writing under

883
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>these pen names and revolutionary newspapers. And one of these

884
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 2>newspapers he had written a sympathetic article to the Carbonari.

885
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 2>The Carbonari were basically a Masonic Italian political offshoot, also

886
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 2>known as the Charcoal burners in that they would meet

887
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night clandestinely and they would

888
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 2>burn you know, charcoal as to not have like an

889
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>open fire, so that they could see but not attract.

890
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>And then also that they would write symbols or sigils

891
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 2>or messages with the charcoal. And if you look at

892
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>early interpretations of the Italian Pinocchio, there are references to

893
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the charcoles because they would go into like a hut

894
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and expect to see like a scene with a pot

895
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>boiling at a stove in the hearth, and they'd see

896
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 2>that was actually etched into the wall or etched in

897
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 2>with charcoal. This was a reference to them being a carbonari.

898
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 2>So there's like a political aspect to it. The symbol

899
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 2>in the middle that was the symbol of the Carbonari,

900
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 2>like their their Masonic version of like a little magical sigil.

901
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And then again man this concept of Pinocchio going and

902
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 2>becoming a beast of burden, this was something that was

903
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>actively happening in Italy, specifically all over Italy, but in Sicily.

904
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>There were these Sicilian sulfur mines that I think were

905
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 2>in existence up until like mid twentieth century, and it

906
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>took a lot of different people to basically bring this.

907
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I think like Booker T. Washington, he actually was quoted

908
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 2>as saying that when he found out about these sulfur

909
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.199
<v Speaker 2>mines in Sicily, that it was worse than anything that

910
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 2>any like, you know, black slave in America had gone

911
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>through compared to what these kids were going through. And

912
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>this was also happening in the time when Pinocchio was

913
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 2>being written, So part of this story about kids being

914
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.239
<v Speaker 2>kidnapped and forced to work was really happening during the

915
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 2>lifetime in which the book itself came out.

916
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Pinocchio was a slave bro we was slaves.

917
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>And then here's a there's an actual name for it,

918
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so Carusu or carusi. It's a Sicilian word for the

919
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.800
<v Speaker 2>term boy, but it basically just translated to any of

920
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>these kids that were working in these mines. And this

921
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 2>was going on until the nineteen fifties, so this is

922
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.280
<v Speaker 2>this was going on for hundreds of years, and this

923
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>is essentially what Pleasure Island would evolve into. Like Pleasure

924
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Island is where they would get they would lure you

925
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 2>away from going to school so that you know, you'd

926
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 2>drink alcohol, you'd smoke cigarette, just anything other than going

927
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>to school and becoming part of the system. And once

928
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 2>they were able to remove you from the system, then

929
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:15.480
<v Speaker 2>they could kidnap you and literally force you to work

930
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:16.280
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life.

931
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, islands here, real quick, paranoid American. There was a

932
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:29.599
<v Speaker 1>period of time that the Disney World Cruise would take people,

933
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 1>take the children over to Little Saint James Island.

934
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, I know, actually know a little bit about

935
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.679
<v Speaker 2>this one. I didn't go on this excursion. So it

936
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 2>was a Disney cruise line. Disney owns their own islands.

937
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 2>One of their islands is adjacent to Little Saint James,

938
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and they had an excursion so that while while you

939
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:57.480
<v Speaker 2>were at Disney's island, your family could have paid a

940
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of money, probably a few hundred dollars at least,

941
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 2>to go on a coral reef excursion at Little Saint

942
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 2>James to where you would like, you know, go over

943
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:10.159
<v Speaker 2>there for the afternoon, snorkel and then hopefully you make

944
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:13.159
<v Speaker 2>your way back to the cruise ship. So it wasn't

945
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 2>that Disney ship was going there or that Disney was

946
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 2>sending people there. It was that they had an excursion

947
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 2>and that someone from Little Saint James would take your

948
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 2>money and bring you to the island. I don't know

949
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.119
<v Speaker 2>if I'm splitting hairs here, but I just I just

950
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>felt like we could be exact on this.

951
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 1>But still either way, either way if Disney taking there

952
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>from the island, coming to get them.

953
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, since we're on that topic too, I might as

954
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>well point this one out. I don't have a slide

955
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 2>for it, but there's an image of Gislaine Maxwell who's

956
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.960
<v Speaker 2>like dancing next to a Pluto on a stage and

957
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it says Disney or something in the background behind her,

958
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 2>and that often comes up as looks she was, you know,

959
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.519
<v Speaker 2>working for Disney. She was on the payroll. She was

960
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>like recruiting kids. Like I believe that that was actually

961
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like a Channel four event and that Channel four had

962
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 2>paid for Disney characters to show up and like be

963
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 2>on stage and stuff, but it was not a Disney event,

964
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and that Gislaine Maxwell didn't work for Disney. She worked

965
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 2>doing something for Channel four. Again, I don't know if

966
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.760
<v Speaker 2>it's splitting hairs. It just it's another interesting Epstein Gislaine

967
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Maxwell Disney connection.

968
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, people found out through the files that Epstein had

969
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 1>like a year long or multiple year long past to

970
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Disney World.

971
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Or I'm surprised that he wasn't Club thirty three.

972
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Club thirty three baby, because.

973
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Club thirty three at that point is just a flex,

974
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:58.599
<v Speaker 2>but it also means that you never have to wait

975
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 2>in line. So I feel like he he'd be the

976
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy that would have gotten the Club thirty

977
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 2>three pass, and then you don't. You don't need the more.

978
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think the Club thirty three is like fifty

979
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars a year per park, So if you want

980
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 2>to be a member in three different parks, it's one

981
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty a year.

982
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>That's nothing to the multi billion.

983
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a flex more than it's like a thing that

984
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you would care about. So Okay, here's the one of

985
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the theories that I'm not going to take credit for

986
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that I can't remember who I heard this from, or

987
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should just take credit. But yeah, it's called

988
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the Disney proxy, and it's it can be more complicated,

989
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>but the dumbest version, the most simplified version, is that

990
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 2>you traumatize a kid, you introduce them to a cute

991
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 2>little sidekick that's their savior, and then you sell that

992
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>kid chochkeys related to their savior and that in if

993
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 2>your kids like so, here's here's the general premise is

994
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 2>that you sit your kid down in front of the

995
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>TV and you gotta go do taxes, you gotta go

996
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 2>do dishes, you gotta go fix the car, whatever it is.

997
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I just need an hour to go and

998
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 2>do adult stuff. So we're gonna PLoP you down in

999
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 2>front of the TV. We're gonna put on Disney tape

1000
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.119
<v Speaker 2>because Disney is more or less like I can trust

1001
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that it's not gonna do something horrible to you. That's

1002
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>the sale right of Disney is like family friendly, so

1003
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 2>that if I go in the other room, I can

1004
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 2>just leave you to it. So when that happens, if

1005
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.159
<v Speaker 2>you're five years old and your parent leaves the room,

1006
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to a five year old mind with maybe still developing

1007
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.480
<v Speaker 2>the concept of like per object permanence, right, if mom

1008
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 2>leaves the room, mom might as well be dead until

1009
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 2>you know she comes back into the room. You're still

1010
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.639
<v Speaker 2>figuring things out. So you put your five year old

1011
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 2>in front of this show. In that movie, Bambi's mom

1012
00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:59.079
<v Speaker 2>becomes the kid's mom because the kids mom's in the

1013
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.119
<v Speaker 2>other room. She's doing or something. So now like you're

1014
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.639
<v Speaker 2>bonding with this character or the dad of its lion king, right,

1015
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:09.199
<v Speaker 2>and then when the mom dies, this kid might for

1016
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 2>a five year old mind, it might be the first

1017
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>time in their life where they've gone through this psychological

1018
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 2>mental exercise of mommy died, What do I do? What

1019
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 2>do I do if mom dies? Wow, I've never considered

1020
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 2>that before. What happens when my mom actually dies? And

1021
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:28.679
<v Speaker 2>they start thinking, even if they're not actively thinking that

1022
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 2>the back of the head like seeds are being planted.

1023
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 2>So now it's kind of traumatic. If that's the first

1024
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.519
<v Speaker 2>time you've ever thought about your own mortality or the

1025
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 2>mortality of your parents and your loved ones, it could

1026
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of spiral you a little bit. If your head's

1027
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 2>not big enough to fully contemplate it, you still kind

1028
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.599
<v Speaker 2>of get stuck in this trauma mode. So there's three

1029
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.119
<v Speaker 2>main ways that happens in Disney movies. Either the parent dies,

1030
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>which is a pretty obvious one, or you get separated

1031
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>or lost. You could almost consider like maybe an Alice

1032
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 2>in Wonderland would be like this, Maybe Mary Poppins would

1033
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 2>be like this, where the kids are removed from any

1034
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 2>authority figures and they're out in the world fending for

1035
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.480
<v Speaker 2>themselves and it's unknown if they ever make it back.

1036
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:15.039
<v Speaker 2>And then the third one is a more extreme version

1037
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 2>of that where you get kidnapped. But all three of

1038
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:22.000
<v Speaker 2>these are forcing a young mind to actually go through

1039
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 2>via this process of oh my god, my mom just died,

1040
01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:28.559
<v Speaker 2>or oh my god, I'm lost and I might never

1041
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 2>get home, or oh my god, I was just kidnapped.

1042
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:35.639
<v Speaker 2>So once they're in this new traumatic state thinking new thoughts,

1043
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 2>the first thing that Disney's gonna do is put a

1044
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 2>very cute sidekick savior character. They're gonna save you. And

1045
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Speaker 2>what happens is that you now have this nlp anchor

1046
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 2>of in this case Thumper. We're gonna have a bunch

1047
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 2>of examples, and now whenever you're gonna see Thumper, after

1048
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you've seen this movie, you're gonna feel a little bit

1049
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of relief. You're gonna be like, oh, I don't know why,

1050
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.400
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like a little more at e then

1051
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:03.079
<v Speaker 2>I just did five seconds ago. It might be you

1052
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.440
<v Speaker 2>were walking down the isle in Walmart and you saw

1053
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a Thumper backpack. You don't know why you felt that way,

1054
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:12.559
<v Speaker 2>but this is the reason it's because sometime earlier in life,

1055
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Thumper saved, like literally saved you and became your new

1056
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.119
<v Speaker 2>parental figure. And you're gonna see this happen over and

1057
01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 2>over again. Lion King is an example. You kill the parent,

1058
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 2>you introduce the cute sidekicks, you sell the chochkeys with

1059
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the sidekicks, and up, even if it's not a kid

1060
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 2>that's dying here, you've got like an old man that

1061
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 2>loses someone gets a sidekick, the sidekick gets cool little chochkeys.

1062
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Even in Frozen Frozen she gets she ages a little bit,

1063
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:44.559
<v Speaker 2>her parents go away on a trip and just never

1064
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.760
<v Speaker 2>come back. And then you get ol Off, and then

1065
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 2>oll Off becomes an expensive Lorcana card or a Funko pop. Right, So,

1066
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 2>like this constant theme that I called a Disney proxy

1067
01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.719
<v Speaker 2>where traumatize the kid, introduced the kid to a cute

1068
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 2>little character that's then gonna be a happy meal toy

1069
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.599
<v Speaker 2>or a Lorcanic card, or a or a sneaker or

1070
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.760
<v Speaker 2>something out in the real world, and then just keep

1071
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 2>capitalizing on that for the rest of their life. Because

1072
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is where Disney adults become so useful. Where

1073
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>a Disney adult is still feeling some sort of ease

1074
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 2>by seeing Thumper, even when they're like fifty years old.

1075
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Whoa bro.

1076
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 1>That is a deep rooted psychological manipulation, and I can

1077
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely see how that works. As you were explaining that,

1078
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I was immediately thinking to one of the first Disney

1079
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>movies that I ever saw, which was Tarzan. Tarzan the

1080
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 1>animated movie, and what happens in that Tarzan loses his parents.

1081
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:54.320
<v Speaker 2>There's some theories that the parents and Frozen are the

1082
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 2>parents in Tarzan. Here's another fun This is my favorite

1083
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.440
<v Speaker 2>part about Tarzan. If you look at the original story

1084
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 2>of Tarzan. The premise. Again, this is like kind of

1085
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Rosicruciani maybe, but it was that the blood of a

1086
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.880
<v Speaker 2>British aristocrat was so inherently superior to any other race

1087
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 2>of human being that you could literally take a British aristocrat,

1088
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.039
<v Speaker 2>drop them in the middle of a jungle and they

1089
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:28.440
<v Speaker 2>would thrive. Not only would they thrive, they would become

1090
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the king of the jungle. And that's what Tarzan is.

1091
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Tarzan represents that British aristocracy is just inherently better than

1092
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.880
<v Speaker 2>anything else in the world, and that it will always

1093
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:42.920
<v Speaker 2>thrive no matter what environment you put it in.

1094
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:49.960
<v Speaker 1>This is really crazy right here. I believe this absolutely,

1095
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:54.239
<v Speaker 1>that this is happening, and this explains why kids are

1096
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>so crazy about Disney movies because they've been traumatized by

1097
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 1>watching it, and they get their best friend within that movie,

1098
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're put into that type of scenario even though

1099
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not real life, they're watching a fictional version of it.

1100
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.679
<v Speaker 1>And then the parents don't understand why they like these

1101
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.880
<v Speaker 1>characters so much, especially in the beginning. You know, of

1102
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 1>course people are now parents that grew up with a

1103
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:21.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff, but I feel like even in

1104
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.800
<v Speaker 1>the nineties or in the eighties, parents didn't really understand

1105
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:30.000
<v Speaker 1>why their kids like these shows so much. But this

1106
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:30.719
<v Speaker 1>explains it.

1107
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:35.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's also really interesting to note that

1108
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I think Disney found this formula out on accident because

1109
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 2>they came out with Bambi and something called the Bambi

1110
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:47.039
<v Speaker 2>effect happened, or you can look up like Bambi syndrome.

1111
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.760
<v Speaker 2>But essentially, after Bamby came out and everyone saw Bambi's

1112
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 2>mom die and here's this adorable Bamby yawning and mom,

1113
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 2>where are you mom? Right, like, people were upset and

1114
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:02.679
<v Speaker 2>there was actual legislation and cultural change where it became

1115
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 2>less acceptable socially to hunt and eat deer, and it

1116
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.199
<v Speaker 2>actually got so out of control that there became an

1117
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 2>overpopulation issue with deer, and then they had to start

1118
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.400
<v Speaker 2>aggressively overcoming the deer because they had let it go

1119
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.840
<v Speaker 2>unchecked for too long again because of like like public

1120
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:28.159
<v Speaker 2>pressure that people saw the Disney movie and complain to

1121
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 2>their local you know, politicians, and it changed the landscape

1122
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.719
<v Speaker 2>for the worst. And I think when this happened first,

1123
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Disney was like, Okay, that's interesting, Like, we have some

1124
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 2>real power here. We have to be a little bit

1125
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 2>more careful now about how we wield this power. But

1126
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I think also the when they realize, oh, if you

1127
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:51.280
<v Speaker 2>kill the authority figure, it does something extra. Even though

1128
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.679
<v Speaker 2>it's just a cartoon, it does like something beyond what

1129
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 2>anyone was expecting. So again, I feel like that when

1130
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.599
<v Speaker 2>they killed Bambi's mom, it was like a happy accident.

1131
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.960
<v Speaker 2>They were like, oh, what was this. Let's keep trying

1132
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>this out, and then over the years they make it

1133
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 2>so that it's almost like a formula, and then you've

1134
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 2>got movies that can do this over and over again,

1135
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.320
<v Speaker 2>where they can kill characters over and over. Like Coco

1136
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 2>is a good example, where like they have regular death

1137
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 2>and they have like a second in deaths, So now

1138
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 2>like everybody gets to die and see their loved ones

1139
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 2>die and go back to like it gets but again,

1140
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.760
<v Speaker 2>then that one's almost like a logmarthic function, whereas this

1141
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 2>is like the most simple algebraic version of that first.

1142
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, then they just kept repeating the same formula over

1143
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and over and over again.

1144
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 2>So here's here's what I would consider the darker side

1145
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.639
<v Speaker 2>of Disney. And we won't get too much beyond this one,

1146
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 2>but it's so easy to ruin a Disney movie for yourself.

1147
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.440
<v Speaker 2>If you look into it just enough, you're gonna find

1148
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 2>something that's gonna be like, eh, I wish I didn't

1149
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 2>know that. So here's my example is that Sword in

1150
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.760
<v Speaker 2>the Stone was probably my favorite Disney movie of all time.

1151
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love this movie. I think I saw it

1152
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the most times out of anything. Where this one gets

1153
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:09.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird is just if you look at the

1154
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 2>original author Sword in the Stone by THH. White. THH.

1155
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>White was this old old guy that didn't develop any

1156
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.440
<v Speaker 2>adult relationships with anyone, and he fell in love with

1157
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>a twelve year old boy when he was in his

1158
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.360
<v Speaker 2>late fifties, and that a lot of the work and

1159
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of his diary entries basically we were just

1160
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about this constant struggle that he was going through,

1161
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that if he wanted to express the love that he

1162
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 2>had in his soul, that society would reject him, and

1163
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>that it was like the most painful thing ever. And

1164
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 2>his later biographer basically said that this turned him into

1165
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.719
<v Speaker 2>a sado massachis that he he he might have had

1166
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 2>some like pretty strong other diary entries that never made

1167
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it to like the full public light. But when you

1168
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 2>start learning about this guy's actual background, and then I'm

1169
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 2>like rewatching Sword in the Stone and I'm just like, damn,

1170
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.880
<v Speaker 2>here's this old guy that looks kind of like him,

1171
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.519
<v Speaker 2>smoking the pipe, lives out in the middle of the woods,

1172
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and he's luring an orphaned boy to learn all about magic,

1173
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and he's not allowed to go home and tell any

1174
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:23.039
<v Speaker 2>of the adults about it. All of a sudden, now

1175
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like the story of Sword in the Stone and

1176
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the story of an old guy that literally lured a

1177
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 2>young twelve year old away from his family to try

1178
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.319
<v Speaker 2>and teach him magic. As a you know, a euphemism.

1179
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 2>So here's just an example of I mean, if another

1180
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:41.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe a darker one, who would be like powder, But

1181
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.279
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to get into powder because it's not animated.

1182
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's kind of the story of the original Star

1183
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Wars trilogy too. Well, we wantingob be an old man

1184
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:56.880
<v Speaker 1>luring a teenage boy into the woods to teach him magic.

1185
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:03.680
<v Speaker 2>It's a story as old as time. It's of here's

1186
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.039
<v Speaker 2>an here's an example of a thing that comes up constantly,

1187
01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and this is the Walt Disney was a freemason, and

1188
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I just maybe with an asterisk. So if if you

1189
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 2>care about the fine details, there's plenty of examples where

1190
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Walt drew Mickey Mouse as a day Olay. There was

1191
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 2>even an entire skit where he opens up the Barnyard

1192
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 2>chapter of dam Olay, and it has a lot of

1193
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the different characters that you'll see repeatedly coming out in

1194
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the early Disney movies. So here's a

1195
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.239
<v Speaker 2>photo in the bottom right corner with Walt Disney and

1196
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:43.640
<v Speaker 2>some other dem Olay and then on the bottom left corner,

1197
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.159
<v Speaker 2>this is the modern version of Dame Olay. But it

1198
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.600
<v Speaker 2>is basically cub Scouts for Masons if you're too young

1199
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to join the actual Masons, So if you're not like

1200
01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:56.399
<v Speaker 2>twenty yet, but either you have a family member that

1201
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 2>wants you to be in it, or you know it

1202
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.279
<v Speaker 2>like it's a it's a sort of like an after

1203
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 2>school curricular thing. Who knows. Who knows how a kid

1204
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:07.760
<v Speaker 2>winds up in the Masons or in the the Damola,

1205
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:11.079
<v Speaker 2>which is cub Scouts for Masons. Walt Disney not only

1206
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 2>did he find himself in the Masons, but he was

1207
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 2>actually under the wing of the original, the founder of

1208
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Dame Olay. It's this guy named Frank Sherman Land, and

1209
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:25.640
<v Speaker 2>everyone called him Dad, and that still goes on now.

1210
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 2>If you join the Day Malay, you usually call your

1211
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.720
<v Speaker 2>equivalent of like your Scout master. They call him Dad,

1212
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit weird. And then here's a photo

1213
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:39.520
<v Speaker 2>of Walt Disney and Vivian and with Frank Land later

1214
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:43.119
<v Speaker 2>on in life. And I think that his experience in

1215
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Dame Olay, this is where he got his occultism, and

1216
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.640
<v Speaker 2>this is where he got his drive and his ability

1217
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:52.119
<v Speaker 2>to just say, like, I'm gonna make my own reality.

1218
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Because as a young kid, you know, as like a

1219
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:59.399
<v Speaker 2>thirteen or fourteen year old learning about the Knight's Templar

1220
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and learn about all of these esoteric principles doing literal

1221
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:08.279
<v Speaker 2>magical rituals because they do the same Masonic footwork where

1222
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:11.159
<v Speaker 2>they you know, they go around certain number of times,

1223
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:14.159
<v Speaker 2>they like certain number of candles, they say like little oaths.

1224
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 2>All of that's happening. So you've got this very young

1225
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Walt Disney going through a very real secret society initiation

1226
01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:24.960
<v Speaker 2>based on knights Templar. Of course he's going to come

1227
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 2>out and put occultism into everything he does. There's no

1228
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 2>way that he can't. That's this is what shaped him

1229
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:38.119
<v Speaker 2>as a young kid. Absolutely, And I want to say

1230
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:44.439
<v Speaker 2>the most insidious of Disney movies. The common examples, the

1231
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.039
<v Speaker 2>one that comes up the most maybe are the dick

1232
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 2>castles in Little Mermaid poster, right, the little castle in

1233
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the background. They look like little decks. Then you've got

1234
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the the Rescuers where they're flying down a city scape

1235
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's like a naked lady in one of the windows.

1236
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Really quickly, there's the line that some people say is

1237
01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 2>all teenagers take off your clothes in Aladdin. There's the

1238
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:13.680
<v Speaker 2>part in Lion King where he jumps into the little

1239
01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:16.479
<v Speaker 2>cloud of like dust and feathers and it spells out

1240
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the word sex and the sky really briefly. There's even

1241
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>a deleted scene and Who Framed Roger Rabbit in which

1242
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Jessica Rabbit gets into a car wreck and her she

1243
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.119
<v Speaker 2>opens her legs as she falls out of the car,

1244
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 2>And they intentionally created that scene and then deleted it

1245
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.479
<v Speaker 2>just so they could have a deleted scene that like

1246
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:39.880
<v Speaker 2>people would talk about. These are the ones that I

1247
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.119
<v Speaker 2>think I might have missed one or two, but those

1248
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:44.520
<v Speaker 2>are the ones that come up the most in that

1249
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Disney's trying to corrupt your kids. Disney's trying to convert

1250
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.840
<v Speaker 2>your kids into sex crazed maniacs. I don't think that

1251
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:56.880
<v Speaker 2>your kids seeing three letters on the screen for like

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01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.479
<v Speaker 2>a half second is going to do it. I don't

1253
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.439
<v Speaker 2>think a dick Castle is going to do it. You

1254
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Know what I do think can harm your child, though,

1255
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 2>is teaching them that it's toys love him back, and

1256
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>that they feel physical pain, and that if you if

1257
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you relinquish control over your material possessions, that you're essentially

1258
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:18.399
<v Speaker 2>killing them, that you are torturing these things that love you.

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01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I think That is probably one of the most insidious

1260
01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:24.800
<v Speaker 2>lessons that Disney can put into anything. I would much

1261
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>rather dick castles and churnal bug and black magic and

1262
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:33.800
<v Speaker 2>horoscopes than teaching my kids that, you know, like, your

1263
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:36.960
<v Speaker 2>toys love you back, so therefore you should put like

1264
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual investment into your material possessions. That is so

1265
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy to me. And Toy Story is one of the

1266
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 2>bigger examples. Toy Story. I would say that, like, what

1267
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.239
<v Speaker 2>is it, brave Little toaster walk so Toy Story can run.

1268
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:54.039
<v Speaker 2>They both are the exact same premise that material possessions

1269
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:57.439
<v Speaker 2>have a soul and a spirit and therefore it's almost

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01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:00.279
<v Speaker 2>bad to get rid of them. Yeah.

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01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:05.199
<v Speaker 1>There's also one in the marriage scene of The Little

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01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Mermaid where the preacher or the priest or whatever looks

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01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 1>like he has a boner.

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01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, again, I would say that even if let's

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01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 2>just say that that is one hundred percent of boner,

1276
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 2>and I would say it is I'm not I am

1277
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:21.319
<v Speaker 2>a hug like that he has a boner. I don't

1278
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.479
<v Speaker 2>know if that's gonna if that's gonna harm a young

1279
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:29.600
<v Speaker 2>viewer that sees that versus being taught that their toys

1280
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:32.000
<v Speaker 2>love them back and to not throw out their toys.

1281
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 2>And even better, if you look at the first toy

1282
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 2>story Sid, who's seen as like the bad guy, because

1283
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.520
<v Speaker 2>what a Sid do? Sid takes broken toys and he

1284
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 2>puts them back together, So he's like making his own toys.

1285
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.399
<v Speaker 2>He's recycling things, which is not what Disney wants you

1286
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to do. Disney wants you to go to the store

1287
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and buy your ass a brand new license, trademark, you know,

1288
01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 2>approved Disney product, and that if you are making your

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01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.640
<v Speaker 2>own toys, then you're essentially a monster. At least that's

1290
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 2>Sid rules and Toy Story one. They change that a

1291
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:05.159
<v Speaker 2>little bit when you get to like Toy Story.

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01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Four, that's very true. That's very true. Don't make your

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01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:13.880
<v Speaker 1>own buy ours consumerism.

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01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Here's another fun one. Almost every Disney villain is gay.

1295
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard this one?

1296
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:23.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I haven't told me about this.

1297
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 2>So if let's just say that, like all of the

1298
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Disney female villains share whatever, they're lesbians. Just let's save

1299
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it for conversation for later. You go through all of

1300
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:40.159
<v Speaker 2>the male villains, they all follow this again like this aristocratic,

1301
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:45.119
<v Speaker 2>but like a Yankee doodle, a dandy archetype. Every single

1302
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:49.880
<v Speaker 2>one of these guys is a dandy. You've got Scar

1303
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:55.399
<v Speaker 2>who basically talks with like a very specific accent and

1304
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a like a West, you know, Hollywood

1305
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:03.279
<v Speaker 2>sort of gay. You've got the line that sucks his

1306
01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:06.279
<v Speaker 2>thumb constantly. You've got sher Khan who also has that

1307
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:11.399
<v Speaker 2>exact same accent. Pretty much every single Captain hook Ursula

1308
01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:17.039
<v Speaker 2>is essentially a drag queen. Ja'afar has that exact same

1309
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:21.159
<v Speaker 2>like very you know, has like a very specific way

1310
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of talking, I would say, and then even Radinger of

1311
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the Great Mouse Detective this very specific. And there's actually

1312
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 2>a documentary that I found this from the point of

1313
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:33.720
<v Speaker 2>this out. It's a documentary called Do I Sound Gay?

1314
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.199
<v Speaker 2>And it was about a guy that went away to

1315
01:16:37.319 --> 01:16:40.159
<v Speaker 2>college and came back after like three or four years,

1316
01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and some of his friends were like, why are you

1317
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 2>talking like that? And he realized that after he had

1318
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.039
<v Speaker 2>gone away to school, he basically started talking gay because

1319
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:49.880
<v Speaker 2>he fit in with like a gay crowd, and he

1320
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 2>like picked up on these different mannerisms and a certain

1321
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 2>way of talking, and he had he actually had to

1322
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:57.399
<v Speaker 2>go to a speech therapist to unlearn all of this.

1323
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And as he was doing that he's he had seen

1324
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.279
<v Speaker 2>a few Disney movies and he was like, hey, every

1325
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:09.279
<v Speaker 2>one of these these male Disney villains talk like they're gay,

1326
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Like they they speak the way that I'm trying to unlearn.

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01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That would make sense, That would make sense. That and

1328
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the reason why they're they're so evil, their clauset gay.

1329
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Bro it gives the motivation. Here's okay, here's one of

1330
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 2>the I think I'm winding down here. So here's another

1331
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:32.560
<v Speaker 2>really fun one is the Disney Pixar theory. So this

1332
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.359
<v Speaker 2>isn't mine. This one gets floated around and improved by

1333
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:37.359
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people, but it's based on things that

1334
01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 2>happen specifically in the Pixar movies. So in in Brave,

1335
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and if you pay attention in Pixar, most Pixar movies

1336
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.239
<v Speaker 2>are self referential. They will like refer to previous Pixar

1337
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>movies or future Pixar movies, so it kind of implies

1338
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that they're all aware of each other. So in Brave,

1339
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.479
<v Speaker 2>there's a scene in which they're talking to the old

1340
01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Witch and the witch has a truck. And the truck,

1341
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe is one of the trucks you see in

1342
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Toy Story or something inside of it, or it's in cars.

1343
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:13.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a truck that's in cars. So Brave is seen

1344
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:16.760
<v Speaker 2>as the very first, the very first movie in the

1345
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Pixar universe, happening around the fourteenth century. Then you've got

1346
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Toy Story and Finding Nemo, which are leading up to

1347
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the demise of humans. They're kind of they took place

1348
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 2>in the time period that they seem to have taken place,

1349
01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.520
<v Speaker 2>which is like the nineteen nineties. Then you've got Ratitude.

1350
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Then you have cars, And this is one of my

1351
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 2>favorite examples of how this goes off, is that Wally happens,

1352
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and Wally is basically humans have polluted the Earth until

1353
01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 2>it's no longer habitable and they have to go out

1354
01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:54.319
<v Speaker 2>in the outer space. And then Wally is in search

1355
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of signs of life on the planet so that once

1356
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:01.239
<v Speaker 2>they find the Earth can sustain life again, humans can return.

1357
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a premise of Wally. While Wally is happening, pollution

1358
01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:11.600
<v Speaker 2>makes the Earth unlivable and humans start to create these

1359
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 2>like these shells, so the shells slowly become their cars.

1360
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>People start living in their cars to the point where

1361
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 2>they fuse with their cars. So the premise is that

1362
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 2>if you go into these Disney Pixar car movies, if

1363
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you were to open up one of those doors, it

1364
01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 2>would just be a fleshy mass of like nerves and

1365
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 2>cartilage and like brain matter, because the inside of that

1366
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.479
<v Speaker 2>car is now the inside of a human body, and

1367
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:42.600
<v Speaker 2>they have this like exoskeleton that looks like a car.

1368
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And this was an evolutionary requirement to even continue living.

1369
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got bugs life that comes after this,

1370
01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So very humans even survive that version of iterations, So

1371
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.720
<v Speaker 2>then it becomes just bugs that survive, and the bugs

1372
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>become basically sentient. The same Rosicrucian spirit that give human

1373
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.000
<v Speaker 2>that spark of life, it gets passed on to the

1374
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:08.680
<v Speaker 2>bugs because the bugs are the next best thing. And

1375
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>then finally you've got the Monsters Inc. And Monsters University

1376
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.359
<v Speaker 2>reality in which they live in the most distant future

1377
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:20.640
<v Speaker 2>from now and they're actually their door system is trying

1378
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:23.159
<v Speaker 2>to travel back into the past and fix things that

1379
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:23.720
<v Speaker 2>went wrong.

1380
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Who I really like Monsters, Monsters, Inc. And Monsters University.

1381
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.239
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. I never even watched Wally, though I've

1382
01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>heard Wally's good, but I've never never seen it.

1383
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Wally was remarkable when it first came out and it

1384
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of press because I think it's silent

1385
01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:55.399
<v Speaker 2>for the first twenty minutes or so, which is sort

1386
01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of out of character for a blockbuster children's three D

1387
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>movie that would just be completely silent. But it's essentially

1388
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:07.479
<v Speaker 2>just Wally driving around and looking at stuff. But and

1389
01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.319
<v Speaker 2>while he is a deep dive in itself, man Wally

1390
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>is all about the Garden of Eden. That's why it's

1391
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Eve comes down, and Eve is trying to lure humans

1392
01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:22.119
<v Speaker 2>away from the Garden of Eden. Like they have found

1393
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:26.880
<v Speaker 2>a way to sustain themselves in space, maybe without any war,

1394
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:31.319
<v Speaker 2>without anyone dying, there's no old people. They they have

1395
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:35.319
<v Speaker 2>found a way to actually sustain forever. But Eve finds

1396
01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>a way to lure them back to Earth again, where

1397
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they're basically going to go back through that same doom cycle.

1398
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.439
<v Speaker 2>This ignores the theory though, that everyone's eating each other

1399
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>on the spaceship in Wally, and that basically there's like

1400
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:51.520
<v Speaker 2>a soilent green operation going on, and that's why you

1401
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:52.439
<v Speaker 2>don't see old people.

1402
01:21:54.520 --> 01:22:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly, they're making a new Toy Story movie, and I

1403
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:05.079
<v Speaker 1>think that it's going to be about technology.

1404
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be about tablets.

1405
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now the toys have to fight back against technology.

1406
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean it's gonna be the friends they

1407
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>make along the way probably, And honestly, the only way

1408
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that it can work out is that technology is going

1409
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.399
<v Speaker 2>to have to become accepted as a new toy and

1410
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the tablet and a natural evolution of things. Children are

1411
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be taught that their tablet loves them back

1412
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>like this. That has been the premise of toy story

1413
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>since the very beginning. So there's no way that formula

1414
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:45.800
<v Speaker 2>necessarily changes. It's going to be that technology is the

1415
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.920
<v Speaker 2>new outsider, but it still loves whoever the human is,

1416
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:55.199
<v Speaker 2>so therefore it's worthy of this Rosicruci spiritual evolution, like

1417
01:22:55.239 --> 01:23:00.840
<v Speaker 2>it's it's ready to be next in line.

1418
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Dolphin or almost blue dolphin.

1419
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>One other quick one. Just look, I'm not going to

1420
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 2>go through all these, but look into children's book authors

1421
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>that have connections to military intelligence. There's just like lots

1422
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and lots and lots and lots of examples. Oh and

1423
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:24.079
<v Speaker 2>here's a parting one a fever dream. So most people

1424
01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>have heard of one hundred and one Dalmatians, right, you've

1425
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>heard of one hundred and one Dalmatians, and the premise

1426
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and one Dalmatians was something called the

1427
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Twilight Bark, and this is when dogs would go out

1428
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night and they would howl

1429
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:40.720
<v Speaker 2>into the darkness, and a dog on another rooftop would

1430
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.479
<v Speaker 2>hear that and they would howl, and essentially they could

1431
01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>communicate with each other and form this like mesh network

1432
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.199
<v Speaker 2>of dog howls. So if I need to get a

1433
01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:53.920
<v Speaker 2>message four hundred miles away, I could do that through

1434
01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>this twilight bark, right is That's kind of like the

1435
01:23:56.239 --> 01:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>basic premise of this. So the sequel to one hundred

1436
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and one Dalmatians, which was also written by the same author,

1437
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Dodie Smith. This one never got a Disney sequel, it

1438
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:10.279
<v Speaker 2>did get a live action make and like the early

1439
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>two thousands, it's a weird movie. But the sequel to

1440
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and one Dalmatians is a book called The

1441
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Starlight Barking, which is slightly different than the Twilight Bark.

1442
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:26.399
<v Speaker 2>The Starlight Barking what happens is that a god from

1443
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the serious Dog Star comes to Earth freezes humanity in

1444
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a like cryogenic state essentially, and then dogs gained the

1445
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:43.399
<v Speaker 2>ability to fly at supersonic speeds. They can control technology,

1446
01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and they can communicate with each other telepathically, and they

1447
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>collectively discuss with this dog god from the Serious Star

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01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:55.479
<v Speaker 2>System that says, hey, humans are ruining the Earth. There's

1449
01:24:55.600 --> 01:25:00.439
<v Speaker 2>wars going on, like everything is going horrible. All of

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01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you dogs can come back with me to the Serious

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01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Star System and you'll be treated as kings and gods

1452
01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:10.319
<v Speaker 2>just like I am. Or you can stay here and

1453
01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>hang out with humans. And they he was like, you, guys,

1454
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, think it over a little bit. Spoiler alert.

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01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>The dogs decide they're going to stay here and help

1456
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.479
<v Speaker 2>humans rather than go back to the Dog Star. But

1457
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a wild story about these supersonic telepathic technology using dogs,

1458
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:32.359
<v Speaker 2>like the dogs are literally flying around the streets and

1459
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>opening and closing garage doors with their minds because they

1460
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:40.279
<v Speaker 2>can control technology. So just another weird fever dream that

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01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:43.119
<v Speaker 2>most people don't know about. Because this is the sequel

1462
01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:45.479
<v Speaker 2>that I wish Disney would make out of all the

1463
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:48.640
<v Speaker 2>sequels they keep making over and over again. But the

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01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:54.279
<v Speaker 2>reason is because Dodie Smith, after she gets popular from

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01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and one Dalmatians, she becomes a pacifist

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01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and a conscient, just objector, and she ends up leaving

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01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Europe in order to come to the States in order

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01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to like avoid something with her husband of getting like

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01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:15.319
<v Speaker 2>enlisted or anything. So she then becomes this like anti

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01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>war political non person because if you were anti war

1471
01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>back then you were kind of anti state as well.

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01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>So she kind of lost all of her credibility, which

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01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>is one of the reasons that you haven't heard about

1474
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the Starlight barking, but you should have.

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01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>That sounds incredible. That sounds way better than anything. One

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01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred and one dominationis, bro, it's a good sequel of

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01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:38.479
<v Speaker 1>going I don't know if I would believe that about

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01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>dogs cats. If it was cats, I believe it.

1479
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't. I think cats would have left us.

1480
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.760
<v Speaker 2>They'd be like, oh, yeah, we're out of here. At

1481
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>least dog. I do believe dogs might be dumb enough

1482
01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 2>to try and hang out and help us out.

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01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think cats are super smart. Bro, they know

1484
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:03.439
<v Speaker 1>what's up. I think they got I think they know.

1485
01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I think cats know the secrets of the universe.

1486
01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:12.039
<v Speaker 2>That's like cats don't need to know. They don't really care,

1487
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's the secret to the universe.

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01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>I've seen those people on TikTok that are cat's psychics

1489
01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>will read your cat's mind Uh.

1490
01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>I believe that people pay for people to read their

1491
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>cat's minds. Yeah.

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01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I think it's funny. It's interesting. It would be

1493
01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty fascinating to find out if they what they actually

1494
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>think about. You know, I don't know if there's a

1495
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:51.279
<v Speaker 1>lot going on inside of a dog, but there's definitely

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01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot going on inside of a cat for shut.

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01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:59.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, when when people say things like, oh, humans

1498
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>are the only animals that kill for sport or you know,

1499
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the only animals that are cruel, like I immediately think

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01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>of cats. I immediately think of I have a ced

1501
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a cat, just kill a creature for the sheer fun

1502
01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>of it. Didn't wasn't hunting, wasn't hungry, was just like

1503
01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I want to see that thing cry a little bit.

1504
01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that documentary on I think it was

1505
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix. Don't f with Cats?

1506
01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:28.520
<v Speaker 2>No. Oh, it's about the guy that was like torturing

1507
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a cat online and internet and.

1508
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>They found him Brown. I found him the internet. Did that? Dude?

1509
01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

1510
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, dude, if we can if we can figure

1511
01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:44.039
<v Speaker 1>that out, then why are we not figuring out a

1512
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other stuff.

1513
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well the cat didn't have friends in high places,

1514
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I gets or the guy hurting the cat didn't have

1515
01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:54.479
<v Speaker 2>friends in nine places.

1516
01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he couldn't hide. So what is your ultimate conclusion

1517
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:04.359
<v Speaker 1>year about about Disney and what they're doing now?

1518
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Disney teaches occultism to kids, but that's only the

1519
01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:13.199
<v Speaker 2>good Classic Disney, the New Disney. The only thing that

1520
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:16.520
<v Speaker 2>they're doing is that proxy there. They have figured out

1521
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 2>that formula that if they can traumatize your kid and

1522
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:26.359
<v Speaker 2>then they can save your kid using a cute, friendly, catchy,

1523
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, little sidekick, then that little sidekick will be

1524
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>selling them French fries and cars for the rest of

1525
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:36.279
<v Speaker 2>their entire life. And it's just a cheat code and

1526
01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:40.159
<v Speaker 2>that anyone can kind of fall forward. It's it's weaponized nostalgia.

1527
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:42.199
<v Speaker 2>And they have figured out a way to do this.

1528
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>And not only have they figured had a way to

1529
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:48.199
<v Speaker 2>do it, but it's now a global conglomerate that I

1530
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>would argue is becoming almost like an aggregre. Right, it's

1531
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.479
<v Speaker 2>an aggregor, the same way that the FBI is an aggregor.

1532
01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>That you could fire everyone in the FBI and the

1533
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>second you start high ring them again, no one has

1534
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to teach the new guys like how to It's almost

1535
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>like a Stanford prison experiment, Like there's this eggrigor of

1536
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a prison or like a warden master and a prisoner,

1537
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and like those archetypes exist in the same way that

1538
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>like a Disney adult archetype exists now because Disney created

1539
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that and they're going to foster that forever and they

1540
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>have more resources in time than me or you or

1541
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>even like ten thousand of our best friends. So don't

1542
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:33.920
<v Speaker 2>don't fight it. And if you're gonna criticize Disney, criticize

1543
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the newer stuff for not having occultism, not not criticizing

1544
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Disney for being a cult, like that's the only good

1545
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>part of Disney.

1546
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Disney put the occult stuff back in to the movies. Bro,

1547
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:54.479
<v Speaker 1>give us more Illuminati. Ask about the Illuminati.

1548
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>But what we're talking about with scientology and even Mormonism

1549
01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:00.119
<v Speaker 2>that I that I always shoehorn in. But if they

1550
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:05.479
<v Speaker 2>would just change their positioning, as like if Mormons were like, hey,

1551
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you like you like masonry, Hey you like magic, you

1552
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.399
<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of of Cray mysticism and magical

1553
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>talismans and magic underwear, Well we've got you know, the

1554
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>religion for you, And the same thing with scientology. It's like, hey,

1555
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>do you want to believe in a volcano full of

1556
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>bad feelings and thoughts that latch onto you and that

1557
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole Xenu story? Like if you lead

1558
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:30.399
<v Speaker 2>with that, then I think that you might start attracting

1559
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>a new wave of people that aren't going to discover

1560
01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it later and then feel duped and feel like an

1561
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>idiot or be like, oh, this is what I signed

1562
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:40.439
<v Speaker 2>up for. Why not get people that want to sign

1563
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>up for the thing? So I kind of feel the

1564
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:46.119
<v Speaker 2>same about Disney, Like Disney should start courting more sort

1565
01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:50.239
<v Speaker 2>of occultism. They should. They should start making more Rosicrucian

1566
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:52.479
<v Speaker 2>themed animations.

1567
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. I think this should have been

1568
01:31:57.960 --> 01:32:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Paranoid American things. So much for coming on, brother, I

1569
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. Very fascinating conversation. You've put a lot

1570
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>of work into decoding a lot of this stuff and

1571
01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:09.119
<v Speaker 1>finding a lot of it. Really appreciate it. Can you

1572
01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:13.199
<v Speaker 1>let people know where they can find you online?

1573
01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>The only safe place is Paranoid American dot com. I've

1574
01:32:16.920 --> 01:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>got all kinds of stuff. While I was working at Disney,

1575
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I ended up believing to just start my own comic

1576
01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 2>publishing company to do what Disney was teaching me to do,

1577
01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>but for stuff that I wanted to do, and I've

1578
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>been doing that for going on fifteen years now. So

1579
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you can see one of sixty titles that I should

1580
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:37.479
<v Speaker 2>have on the main site. If you just go to

1581
01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>paranoid American dot com, I'm guaranteed to have something there

1582
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that's probably up your alley.

1583
01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:47.119
<v Speaker 1>The links to Paranoid American's website is in the description

1584
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of this video. Please go over there, support him, check

1585
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>out his work on his website, and all of my

1586
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:56.119
<v Speaker 1>links are also in the description below. Hits thumbs up

1587
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>button out the channel on the algorithm. Sure subscribe at

1588
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the bellicon as well or notifications, and we'll see you

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01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>guys next time. Bye bye ye h.