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Speaker 1: Paranoid American since twenty twelve. Paranoid American, Welcome back to
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man. Paranoid is ever, maybe maybe more so
Speaker 2: now than ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we got a lot going on. We got
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein files, we got the UFO files, we
Speaker 1: got Jim Carrey being a clone, we got War with Iran.
Speaker 1: It's a never ending frenzy of things that seems to
Speaker 1: change every single week.
Speaker 2: But what if you can I like how War came
Speaker 2: after Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, War after Jim Carrey. Then before that we had
Speaker 1: the Winter Olympics, and then we had the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's just every week, dude. It's something the community has
Speaker 1: become a twenty four hour, NonStop news cycle, just like
Speaker 1: the thing that we were against. I don't make that
Speaker 1: make sense. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this because I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 2: tie almost everything that you've already talked about back into
Speaker 2: Disney as we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Disney is so interesting. There's so many different things.
Speaker 1: Disneyland being built on a burial ground. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: heard that one before. You know anything about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is a cemetery at Disneyland in California, which was
Speaker 1: Saint Michael's Episcopal Church and cemetery, like ten minute walk
Speaker 1: from Disneyland.
Speaker 2: Disneyland is also the scene of the most horrific death
Speaker 2: to occur on Disney property to date. I believe it
Speaker 2: of all of the theme parks.
Speaker 1: Well, which one was that?
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a follow up for that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It's Roger Rabbit's Wild Ride. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they that's the name of it was the Roger
Speaker 2: the who framed Roger Rabbit Ride. It was called like
Speaker 2: cartoon cars or something. And somebody got caught under one
Speaker 2: of the cars and kind of turned into like a
Speaker 2: human crayon and died from it. So come do it.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah, I think that there's been ten to
Speaker 1: twenty deaths at both of the theme parks. Do you
Speaker 1: remember a few years back when Disney was being sued
Speaker 1: over a wrongful death lawsuit because a woman had a
Speaker 1: fatal allergic reaction at a restaurant at Disney World, and
Speaker 1: the Disney lawyers tried to say that because the husband
Speaker 1: had previously agreed to Disney's online terms of service when
Speaker 1: you signed up for a Disney Plus account.
Speaker 2: Right, it's wild when you've created like an entire universe,
Speaker 2: an entire reality to yourself, because that's what Disney's done, right,
Speaker 2: They've created this reality and then people go into that
Speaker 2: reality and they die and then I don't know, I
Speaker 2: think there's an interesting conversation of like, is Disney somewhat
Speaker 2: participating in like horrible things that are happening to people
Speaker 2: for fostering this, you know, this different reality that they
Speaker 2: claim exist. Like for example, there's recently, in like last
Speaker 2: two or three years, all of these people that are
Speaker 2: basically deciding that they want to leave life early, and
Speaker 2: they make plans and they go to Disney and there's
Speaker 2: specific places within Disney resorts that they decide to be
Speaker 2: like their their last spot. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was reported that several people have thrown their
Speaker 1: family members ashes into some of the rides. Well, I'm talking.
Speaker 2: About like the people themselves are like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go to the Century Hotel and jump off because my
Speaker 2: last moments are going to be at Disney.
Speaker 1: Who like it's super dark. There's also the theories and
Speaker 1: rumors and speculation that Disney Land has massive underground tunnels.
Speaker 2: Well, Disney World Orlando has some of those same theories too,
Speaker 2: because they do have underground tunnels.
Speaker 1: Well they use it as the excuses that it's for
Speaker 1: the actors to give from one place to the other place.
Speaker 1: But Kathy O'Brien, i MK Ultra Monarch survivor, said that
Speaker 1: she was taken to Disney and part of these underground
Speaker 1: facilities underneath Disney. But it's been rumored and speculated that
Speaker 1: Disney World is built on top of a hidden military base.
Speaker 2: Well, so there's actually a lot of extra credit to
Speaker 2: that because when I worked at Disney for ten years
Speaker 2: on the back lot while it was basically Hollywood Studios.
Speaker 2: It started as MG and then turn to Hollywood Studios,
Speaker 2: but it was in the roy O Disney production building,
Speaker 2: which is right next to the animation building back there.
Speaker 2: I think both of them have and replaced by store
Speaker 2: Wars Wars rides at this point like a toy story ride.
Speaker 2: But that the guy that I worked for, his dad,
Speaker 2: was in charge of the entire back lot when Walt
Speaker 2: Disney was building the actual Walt Disney World, and all
Speaker 2: of the contractors from the blueprints and the construction and everything,
Speaker 2: it was all military contractors like that, the people that
Speaker 2: built Walt Disney World were literally building military bases when
Speaker 2: they weren't working on Disney World. So it's made in
Speaker 2: the same way that you would expect any military base.
Speaker 2: And that's also why it was treated as a pretty
Speaker 2: high value target right after nine to eleven. In the
Speaker 2: early two thousands, it was sort of seen as like
Speaker 2: a major target, not just because it's Disney, but because
Speaker 2: it was essentially a military base.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, that's the way
Speaker 1: that would be the easiest way to protect top secret
Speaker 1: military installation is to put it underground and then the
Speaker 1: top of it be something completely different. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: kind of what they were empting to do during World
Speaker 1: War Two was hide their infrastructure from enemy aircraft, you know,
Speaker 1: So they would make these domes and then there were
Speaker 1: like these underground shaped igloes and stuff to hide their
Speaker 1: ammunition and stuff. So, hey, it's possible. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what I would do if I was trying to hide
Speaker 1: some stuff, I would just build something really popular on
Speaker 1: top of the thing that I'm trying to hide.
Speaker 2: And you can justify any sort of power usage or
Speaker 2: resources or traffic in and out. Yeah, it can all
Speaker 2: be justified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting, and not only that, just the
Speaker 1: layout of I mean it's I'm pretty sure that it
Speaker 1: was Disney World. That it was supposed to be an
Speaker 1: actual liveable city EPCOT.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it actually stands for oh, what was it,
Speaker 2: Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow or something, And it was
Speaker 2: going to be a city that you would it was
Speaker 2: a fifteen minute city. You would live there, you would
Speaker 2: work there, and if you had any issue, if you
Speaker 2: were too young to work but you were too old
Speaker 2: to go to, like if you were aged out of
Speaker 2: school or if you were a retirement age, you weren't
Speaker 2: really welcome there. It was for productive members of society only,
Speaker 2: and it was supposed to be like an experimental And
Speaker 2: I think you've still have a lot of this in Florida,
Speaker 2: but it's not necessarily Disney. But there's like retirement communities
Speaker 2: right Like there's a Margaritaville, the retirement community that they've
Speaker 2: got everything, they've got a grocery store, and they've got entertainment.
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to leave this little kind of community.
Speaker 2: It's no longer you have to work there in order
Speaker 2: to make it thrive. I think that's the one thing
Speaker 2: that never really would have worked in Waltz version of
Speaker 2: Epcot because he would have had to have controlled an
Speaker 2: entire economy and kept that economy within that bubble of
Speaker 2: that entire Epcot city as well.
Speaker 1: Kind of sounds like Scientology.
Speaker 2: I think that what would have done way better with it.
Speaker 2: I think that he was more disciplined in his approach
Speaker 2: to occultism than l Ron Hubbard ever was.
Speaker 1: Well, if you think about it, like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: what scientology tried to set up. I mean, they bought
Speaker 1: a whole like section of Florida, and they wanted them
Speaker 1: to run all the businesses. The people that are a
Speaker 1: part of the church work there, the people part of
Speaker 1: the church. Yeah, you know what I mean. They wanted
Speaker 1: that entire thing set up to where they control the
Speaker 1: entire like everything to do with that section of the state.
Speaker 2: I think that it's funny, there's like something ironic that scientology.
Speaker 2: And without going too far in tangent, let me just say,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna include Mormonism in this too. Well, just
Speaker 2: focus on Scientology, but like they are, some of the
Speaker 2: most forward thinking sci fi aliens exist, other planets exist,
Speaker 2: multiple dimensions of reality exist. Those religion are some of
Speaker 2: the newest that acknowledge that. Yet both of them didn't
Speaker 2: see the Internet coming, and for both of them, the
Speaker 2: Internet is their ultimate downfall. Like the world without USENET
Speaker 2: exposing Scientology in the nineties would be a completely different world,
Speaker 2: especially for Scientology. But we got the one we got,
Speaker 2: and they've kind of been exposed, and I think it's
Speaker 2: a huge, huge blow that they didn't see coming. There's
Speaker 2: not really a great way around it yet, like they
Speaker 2: still are figuring out how to pivot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I walked by a Scientology center in San Francisco a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, or maybe it wasn't San Francisco,
Speaker 1: somewhere in California, and nobody was in there. The thing
Speaker 1: was empty. And that's what it kind of seems like
Speaker 1: is going on in clear Water in Florida as well,
Speaker 1: is that there's like nobody there, Like no one's running
Speaker 1: any of these songs.
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise is gone. Like, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: they've got as their Plan B. There's not a lot
Speaker 2: of Plan B left for Scientology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of seems to be over, but they
Speaker 1: still somehow own all of the properties and they're still
Speaker 1: somehow able to pay the bills. Of all of these
Speaker 1: Scientology centers that they I don't know, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's probably gonna just kind of like Mormonism too,
Speaker 2: Like they both shifted political because now Scientology's biggest asset
Speaker 2: is likely whatever they got in Operations snow White, where
Speaker 2: they infiltrate CIA archives and basically the biggest infiltration of
Speaker 2: an intelligence operation on domestic soil and history. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that that probably has bought them a little
Speaker 2: bit of leeway. They got a little bit of room
Speaker 2: to experiment.
Speaker 1: I think, well, is there any connections here between Disney
Speaker 1: and scientology before we get into your presentation.
Speaker 2: I would actually say, mummy Mormonism is probably a better
Speaker 2: connective tissue there for similar reasons, but also the contributions
Speaker 2: of Mormon artists and Mormon writers and even in the
Speaker 2: contribution of the field of three D and CGI. A
Speaker 2: lot of that again comes from like these forward thinking scientists,
Speaker 2: uh sort of like like sci fi forward thinking groups
Speaker 2: where it's a little bit out and and I think
Speaker 2: that Disney he catered a lot to this because of
Speaker 2: his upbringing, like he was also brought up to be
Speaker 2: into occultism and be into like a very different way
Speaker 2: of creative thinking that the same sort of creative thinking
Speaker 2: that you would maybe attribute to scientologists, just in terms
Speaker 2: of like creating a different reality and living by the
Speaker 2: rules of that new reality.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would explain the Warner von Braun becoming
Speaker 1: a part of Disney and Walt Disney, And was Jack
Speaker 1: Persons involved with Disney at all?
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think, well, I think Jack Parsons
Speaker 2: was probably a little bit too avant garde, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't doubt if you know, there was some influence going
Speaker 2: both ways. I don't think there's any specifically documented, But
Speaker 2: what you normally see in a lot of Walt's background
Speaker 2: is that the more he tries to get in with
Speaker 2: a social group, like here's an example is that he
Speaker 2: was invited to Bohemian Grove at one point and he went,
Speaker 2: I believe as a guest. He wasn't like an official
Speaker 2: member or anything, and like he kind of liked it,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't really his thing. So he ends up
Speaker 2: performing his own version of Bohemian Grove called like like
Speaker 2: Los Desperados or Los Conquistadores or something like this, and
Speaker 2: it was a more like outdoorsy, rugged like let's pretend
Speaker 2: to be cowboys, and less of a let's get naked
Speaker 2: and run around the woods and kind of like get drunk.
Speaker 2: Like he understood that, like okay, the connecting with nature
Speaker 2: part and the rich people doing rich people stuff part,
Speaker 2: but he I guess he didn't like appreciate that. And
Speaker 2: you'll see that time and time again where he'll try
Speaker 2: and join like a social group, but it just not
Speaker 2: really his thing, even day Malay, where a lot of
Speaker 2: time he gets falsely accused of he was a mason
Speaker 2: kind of like with an asterisk a little bit, but
Speaker 2: he was in day Malay, I think even in Dame Malay.
Speaker 2: The fact that he did not join masonry afterwards, it
Speaker 2: just kind of shows that once he got a benefit
Speaker 2: out of something, he's the kind of guy that would
Speaker 2: probably go to scientology and get audited and kind of
Speaker 2: like learn the techniques and then be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I don't need to go clear like I understand the
Speaker 2: tools that you guys are using to operate with, and
Speaker 2: I've mastered them, and now I'm going to use them
Speaker 2: for my own purposes. See you guys later. It seems
Speaker 2: like that was a little bit more Walt Disney's style,
Speaker 2: And that's also why I think that he was more
Speaker 2: reserved and more successful than say, like an l Ron Hubbard,
Speaker 2: because l Ron Hubbard in some ways was kind of
Speaker 2: obsessed with becoming respected by Alistair Crowley or Alistair Crowley's
Speaker 2: ilk or the people that were following him. Like he
Speaker 2: was kind of a pick me in a way that
Speaker 2: maybe Walt Disney wasn't, you know, like what like they
Speaker 2: they both made major moves, but I think Walt Disney
Speaker 2: was really guided by something like deeper seated, like like
Speaker 2: he was actually trying to make some kind of like
Speaker 2: a world difference, as narcissistic as that might seem, more
Speaker 2: so than el Ron Hubbard.
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's any truth to Walt Disney
Speaker 1: and the cryonics conspiracy that he was because that's one
Speaker 1: of the first ones that I ever heard about Disney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that he's frozen. Frozen family has completely denied it
Speaker 2: any any like serious look into it. I've seen, like
Speaker 2: it all basically points to know he definitely didn't that
Speaker 2: he's like entombed toever, I know that a lot of
Speaker 2: people that I know that went to cow Arts, there's
Speaker 2: rumors that he's basically buried somewhere under there, like under
Speaker 2: the school, or that he's in the walls or something.
Speaker 2: The more than I've looked into it though, this is
Speaker 2: interesting because if you go into modern cryogenics, they basically,
Speaker 2: like in the you know, twenty first century, now, the
Speaker 2: concept is a last in, first out methodology. So like
Speaker 2: if you went in there in nineteen seventy or nineteen sixty,
Speaker 2: you're not coming out for a really, really long time,
Speaker 2: because the idea is that if you've been in there longer,
Speaker 2: you've got more freezer burn. So we'd rather thaw somebody
Speaker 2: out that was just putting the freezer like a week ago,
Speaker 2: because there's a good chance that will have less complications
Speaker 2: with dealing with freezer burn than if you like pick
Speaker 2: someone out from the back of the freezer, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So let's just assume that, yes, he
Speaker 2: is in there, he's gonna be one of the last
Speaker 2: people to ever exit the freezer if that were true,
Speaker 2: So he's gonna be he's gonna be sitting on ice
Speaker 2: for a little bit.
Speaker 1: There's even one that I heard that his body, well
Speaker 1: not his body, but his head, his severed head is
Speaker 1: underneath Castle in disney World or Disneyland or whatever. Have
Speaker 1: you heard that one?
Speaker 2: It's a fun I haven't heard that one. That's a
Speaker 2: fun one, I guess the most fantastic one that I
Speaker 2: really like. And I choose to believe this for a
Speaker 2: number of reasons, but that Walt Disney himself thought that
Speaker 2: he had been kidnapped as a child and that he
Speaker 2: was royalty. He was basically a Disney princess in his
Speaker 2: own mind growing up. And the FBI found out about
Speaker 2: this complex that he had where he thought that he
Speaker 2: had like royal blood in him and how could I
Speaker 2: possibly have come from these idiot parents kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So the FBI finds out about this and they make
Speaker 2: him a deal, and they basically say, hey, Walt, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, but you're actually from
Speaker 2: royal blood. You were you were kidnapped, or you were abandoned,
Speaker 2: or you were adopted when you were a little kid,
Speaker 2: and you were raised by basically foster parents, but your
Speaker 2: real lineage is Spanish royalty, like you are literally like
Speaker 2: you were in line at some point to be king.
Speaker 2: And we'd love to tell you more, but we need
Speaker 2: your help first, and Basically, what they wanted him to
Speaker 2: do was to be the inside intelligence for the animation industry.
Speaker 2: The same way that they kind of had like the
Speaker 2: Anti American Act and like the McCarthyism was trying to
Speaker 2: root out, say, communists in Hollywood. There was a similar
Speaker 2: endeavor for the animation world because they saw artists and
Speaker 2: these animators as maybe also being you know, sort of antagonists.
Speaker 2: So that's one of my favorite ones though, is that
Speaker 2: he himself had always seen himself as a Disney princess,
Speaker 2: and you just see this story coming out over and
Speaker 2: over again in the stories that Disney selects to produce.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. I like that. And then the FBI
Speaker 1: used that against them and then came in and basically
Speaker 1: told him what he wanted to hear.
Speaker 2: And the point of him being a special agent in charge,
Speaker 2: I believe that is factual. There's documented evidence that he
Speaker 2: was absolutely made special agent in charge. Now we're just
Speaker 2: talking about you know, subjective rumors about like like well,
Speaker 2: how did that conversation go and what was the payoff?
Speaker 1: That is very interesting. I like that one. So there
Speaker 1: is documentation evidence of him working for the FBI.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was originally uncovered in a book called Hollywood's
Speaker 2: Dark Prints. I might I might be flubbing out a
Speaker 2: little bit, but it was the unofficial Disney biography, and
Speaker 2: that's where the claim originally came out. The family denied
Speaker 2: almost everything in that book, which I understandably, so a
Speaker 2: lot of it seems like it would check out. But
Speaker 2: this one particular claim about him being made specially Agent
Speaker 2: in charge by j Edgar Hoover personally, there was a
Speaker 2: letter that was found. The Orlando Sentinel is the local
Speaker 2: newspaper here, and they actually discovered, Yes, here's a paperwork
Speaker 2: from the FBI stating that Walt Disney was Special Agent
Speaker 2: in charge. Wow, which is like making you a special
Speaker 2: you know, Golden Star deputy. It's like when they say
Speaker 2: Shack's a sheriff. It's sort of like the same level.
Speaker 2: Or Steven Seagal is a sheriff.
Speaker 1: Right, Elvis was that as well, Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's it's real. It's not fake, Like you
Speaker 2: actually do have some realistic power that goes with that.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean that you're leading like a drug
Speaker 2: rad or like you know, busting open doors or anything.
Speaker 2: But you absolutely are working for the state that at
Speaker 2: that point.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's really interesting. How to look more into that.
Speaker 1: It's really cool. All right, brother, let's get into this presentation.
Speaker 1: Give me that code word so I can throw this
Speaker 1: up on the screen.
Speaker 2: Blue dolphin boom. So okay. I've been doing this podcast
Speaker 2: for a while. It started because Sam Tripley had me
Speaker 2: on his show. There was like, long story short, there
Speaker 2: was like a guest that was going to come on
Speaker 2: and talk about Disney. I had no idea what happened,
Speaker 2: but like it fell through or something happened to in
Speaker 2: the scenes, and they reached out to me and they
Speaker 2: were like, hey, you work at Disney. You talk about
Speaker 2: occult stuff. Can you talk about a cult Disney? So
Speaker 2: I was like all right. I just kind of put
Speaker 2: some rough notes together and the episode did fairly well.
Speaker 2: And one of my now friend, Matt Komogy's, who has
Speaker 2: his own podcast, he reached out and was like, hey,
Speaker 2: do an episode on Fantasia with me. And we did
Speaker 2: that and we had so much fun that we decided
Speaker 2: let's just watch every single theatrical length Disney animation ever
Speaker 2: created and break them all down. So we've been doing
Speaker 2: that for a little over two years now. I think
Speaker 2: we're about one hundred and twenty in and we've made
Speaker 2: our way from the nineteen thirties to like twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: or twenty eighteen or so. So a lot of the
Speaker 2: notes I've been taking, I just keep refining them each
Speaker 2: time I watch a new movie. I have a list
Speaker 2: of how many people die and which movies and how
Speaker 2: they die, and whether or not the parents die, and
Speaker 2: a lot of I'm tracking a lot of death because
Speaker 2: I've got a few different theories that I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to refine a little bit. So I'm going to present
Speaker 2: them to you here.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: So, so first off, I'm just gonna jump to this one.
Speaker 2: This is kind of post Disney being actively involved in everything,
Speaker 2: because he's got a lot going on at this point.
Speaker 2: But Donald and Mathemagic Land is one of the most
Speaker 2: occult Disney animations that you'll probably ever see ever that's
Speaker 2: probably ever has been produced or ever will be produced.
Speaker 2: So I figure I just jump right to a kind
Speaker 2: of the cream on top. If that's what you're interested in,
Speaker 2: this is the one that you start with, and it's
Speaker 2: just a breakdown of Pythagorean everything, music philosophy, ratios, how
Speaker 2: attribute it to art, and golden ratios, it gets into
Speaker 2: sacred geometry. So the reason that I want to bring
Speaker 2: this up first is that it's not like Disney is
Speaker 2: sneaking this occultism, like you won't know it, like you
Speaker 2: have to really look out for it. Na Man, out
Speaker 2: of all of the companies, out of all the occultism
Speaker 2: that you've ever seen integrated with cartoons or books or
Speaker 2: movies or anything, Disney puts it on its sleeve more
Speaker 2: than anybody. I don't feel like, at least the Wall
Speaker 2: era Disney up until the Renaissance, which is usually like
Speaker 2: mid nineties. Once you get into like the Pixar era,
Speaker 2: a lot of this gets obscured, and I think the
Speaker 2: occultism just kind of sits by the wayside, or maybe
Speaker 2: it's it's a little bit more secretive, but Disney og
Speaker 2: Disney was Rosicrucianism for babies, like every single movie was.
Speaker 2: And here's another way to teach your kids about Rosicrucianism,
Speaker 2: which makes sense because again Disney was Dame Mole, and
Speaker 2: I think that he was putting these like really occult
Speaker 2: and esoteric teachings into the movies that he was selecting.
Speaker 2: So Donald mathemagic Land is the number one, and then
Speaker 2: the other one that comes up the most is an
Speaker 2: episode of duck Tails called Yuppie Ducks. This is post
Speaker 2: like Walt's dead already, right, like Disney's a completely different
Speaker 2: company at this point. But there's this scene that says,
Speaker 2: ask about Illuminati in the background when Scrooge McDuck goes
Speaker 2: to see the doctor, and funny that the context of
Speaker 2: this is that the reason he's rich is because he
Speaker 2: exploits government social services because they're free. So he like
Speaker 2: the joke is that even though he's rich, he's still
Speaker 2: going to this poor hospital at the free clinic and
Speaker 2: he's taking up their resources and like getting in line
Speaker 2: in front of the poor people. It's part of the
Speaker 2: joke of this episode, and it says, ask about Illuminati
Speaker 2: in the background. So these these are just the two
Speaker 2: ones that come up. But again, like this one maybe
Speaker 2: is an example of Okay, there's some hidden you know,
Speaker 2: Illuminati occult references, but Donald and the mathemagical Land, there
Speaker 2: is nothing hidden. It is straight up telling you, like
Speaker 2: this is a cult, is a and these are important
Speaker 2: lessons to integrate into your reality. So those extreams.
Speaker 1: That one is really in your face ask about Illuminati? Wow?
Speaker 1: And this was in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty nine. This is season three, episode thirteen of Ducktails.
Speaker 2: And I have I swear I have done some serious
Speaker 2: research reutalizing all my Disney resources and connections. I have
Speaker 2: no idea who the background artist of this panel was,
Speaker 2: or why, or how or any of that. I just
Speaker 2: I'm glad that it exists, because this is specifically the
Speaker 2: kind of thing that keeps me interested in conspiracy theories,
Speaker 2: is just seeing weird little nods of like what do
Speaker 2: you mean to ask about Illuminati? And Ducktails from nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine, So this is fascinating to me. Let me
Speaker 2: let me go back and again to re emphasize early
Speaker 2: Disney was not a culting knowledge. They were presenting occult knowledge,
Speaker 2: but they were like putting it in your face. For example,
Speaker 2: the very first Snow White nineteen thirty seven. This is
Speaker 2: the first theatrical length animated movie in history. Right, there
Speaker 2: was an earlier nineteen thirty three Snow White starring Betty
Speaker 2: Boop by the Flight Fleischer, but this is the first
Speaker 2: theatrical length and the very first scene when we see
Speaker 2: the evil Witch here the evil stepmother. She's walking up
Speaker 2: to the magic mirror, and the magic mirror is surrounded
Speaker 2: by the horoscope, right, it's all like this astro theology
Speaker 2: sort of domain that she's in charge of. And also
Speaker 2: when she walks up, this is one of those fun
Speaker 2: Mandela effect things whereas people think that it's miror mirror
Speaker 2: on the wall, it's magic mirror on the wall. But
Speaker 2: before she even says magic mirror on the wall, she
Speaker 2: actually says like slave behind the glass. Like she like
Speaker 2: the very first time she addresses this mirror, she calls
Speaker 2: it her slave. So this is the entire premise of
Speaker 2: snow White, is that she is this magic witch and
Speaker 2: she's using dark magic versus Snow White, who's using like
Speaker 2: this pure nature magic. And then also on this right
Speaker 2: side here this big peacock throne. I think this is
Speaker 2: a nod. There was early Sumerian beliefs of the peacock
Speaker 2: actually saw it as bad luck because the peacock feather
Speaker 2: resembled in a single eye, so it became like this
Speaker 2: evil eye which was associated with another like a black
Speaker 2: magic but like a very specific Sumerian flavor of black
Speaker 2: magic that gets into the Mediterranean. But not necessarily in
Speaker 2: like Greek or Roman interpretations. So again, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: see a whole lot of this in countless examples. So
Speaker 2: right off the bat, there is nothing being hidden in
Speaker 2: terms of the esoteric and the occult knowledge in the
Speaker 2: very first Disney movie, and then you're also gonna see
Speaker 2: this very constant theme with pretty much every single Disney
Speaker 2: movie for the next like four to five decades, few generations.
Speaker 2: And that's like, these princesses, one of their inherent traits,
Speaker 2: if they're a true princess, is they can talk to nature.
Speaker 2: And more specifically, it's not that anyone can talk to nature,
Speaker 2: it's just them, and that's what again makes them these adepts,
Speaker 2: like that they're ready to become magical, but they're still
Speaker 2: kind of growing into it. A lot of the Disney
Speaker 2: protagonists don't realize how magic they are, and that's exactly
Speaker 2: what happens with snow White. The very first scene is
Speaker 2: that she goes out into the well and she starts
Speaker 2: to make a wish into the well and she wishes
Speaker 2: that she had like a prince Charming, and her wish
Speaker 2: immediately comes true because he shows up right next to her,
Speaker 2: and she runs away, And one of my favorite interpretations
Speaker 2: of this is that she wasn't running away from the
Speaker 2: strange man. She was running away from the fact that
Speaker 2: she just scared herself with how potent her magic was.
Speaker 2: That she made a wish and it immediately came true
Speaker 2: and she didn't know how to come to terms with that.
Speaker 1: Isn't snow White based on something like much darker?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I've got I've got a few examples
Speaker 2: of it. It gets kind of dark. A lot of
Speaker 2: my interpretation to these two are like very politic, like
Speaker 2: real things that were happening politically that get expressed through
Speaker 2: folklore over hundreds of years. So okay, the Rosicrucian aspect
Speaker 2: of snow White is that these seven dwarves are actually
Speaker 2: these Earth elementals there they live underground and they capture
Speaker 2: these gems, but they they can't really appreciate the gems.
Speaker 2: They're just utilitarians of them. They're just these things that
Speaker 2: they go and get because they're Earth elementals. But when
Speaker 2: snow White comes in, snow White represents human intellect. It
Speaker 2: represents this like Rosicrucian higher order of thinking that gets
Speaker 2: you closer to the source if you can elevate far enough,
Speaker 2: so when she interacts with them, she helps elevate them.
Speaker 2: She helps give them some of that spirit, and in
Speaker 2: exchange they give like all they have to really offer
Speaker 2: her are these gems, Like that's kind of what they
Speaker 2: work in. And then it's also interesting they all wear
Speaker 2: these liberty caps, so there's a little picture of mythra.
Speaker 2: You can see a lot of cults, especially like ancient
Speaker 2: mystery schools, they'll all have these little liberty caps. So
Speaker 2: I don't think it was just a coincidence that these
Speaker 2: become some of the very first sidekicks in any Disney movies.
Speaker 2: And then this is just a weird note. I'm still
Speaker 2: to this day trying to find the original source of this.
Speaker 2: This was quoted in Wicked, It's still there now in Wikipedia,
Speaker 2: and I've seen it cited in a couple books, but
Speaker 2: I haven't found anything beyond according to the original Grim
Speaker 2: sources that in one of the original stories pre eighteen ten,
Speaker 2: the dwarves bring snow White back to life by hitting
Speaker 2: her thirty two times with magical hammers. And I feel
Speaker 2: like there's there's got to be something to that. But
Speaker 2: uh so, here's here's a couple of the dark backgrounds
Speaker 2: behind snow White. One of them is a possible both
Speaker 2: of these ladies were poisoned, a right, both of them
Speaker 2: died from poisoning. Margaret von Waldack fifteen thirty three. And
Speaker 2: this one's interesting because her dad owned a bunch of
Speaker 2: copper minds in the region and a lot of early
Speaker 2: mining and this is gonna come up in Pinocchio too.
Speaker 2: A lot of early mining they just hire children because
Speaker 2: children you have to you have to make the holes
Speaker 2: as big, right to get those little kids like down
Speaker 2: inside the mines. So they would literally just hire seven
Speaker 2: year olds. And I think at one point they passed
Speaker 2: a law and it was like, okay, seven's crazy, you
Speaker 2: got to be at least ten. So then it was
Speaker 2: like ten year olds are working in these mines, and
Speaker 2: that there was a village nearby that's still calls it
Speaker 2: snow Snow White Village. And in that Snow White village, historically,
Speaker 2: if you were a child working in these mines, they'd
Speaker 2: put you like twenty to like a little you know,
Speaker 2: barracks essentially. So some of the archetypes that develop over
Speaker 2: the next four hundred years that bring us the Disney
Speaker 2: version of snow White that's developing over real stories about
Speaker 2: children living in minds and they kind of turn into
Speaker 2: like like euphemistically turned into gnomes earth elementals that are
Speaker 2: down there finding diamonds. Like. No, they were seven year
Speaker 2: olds dying from you know, black long and from like
Speaker 2: sulfur poisoning. But that's one of the background stories. And
Speaker 2: then she dies from being poisoned, just like snow White
Speaker 2: eats the poison apple. And then there's another version, even
Speaker 2: a little bit more recent, Maria Sophia Earthl She was
Speaker 2: born in seventeen twenty nine. She was also poisoned, and
Speaker 2: her family also owned mine that were attended by kids,
Speaker 2: I mean kids just worked in minds. But another thing
Speaker 2: is that she had this mirror called the Talking Mirror,
Speaker 2: and that you can still see it today. It's in
Speaker 2: a museum called like the Spesser Museum. And there's a
Speaker 2: couple of different rumors about how it got this name
Speaker 2: talking Mirror. One of the rumors is the most mundane one.
Speaker 2: It was that it was just so crisp that you
Speaker 2: could see so well and it was so true that
Speaker 2: it basically could only speak the truth, and therefore it
Speaker 2: was like a talking mirror. That's lame. I don't really
Speaker 2: believe that one. The premise on this one. I think
Speaker 2: if you actually go to this museum, they say that
Speaker 2: when this was originally created, it was an acoustic toy
Speaker 2: that also doubled as a mirror, so that if you
Speaker 2: were to yell at it, it would reverberate in a
Speaker 2: way that you could hear your voice come back out
Speaker 2: of it, so that it was literally a talking mirror.
Speaker 2: So that that might be another one of these different premises.
Speaker 2: But again, both of these ladies were both poisoned both
Speaker 2: of their fathers. This is real. Both of their fathers
Speaker 2: owned minds in the area in which Snow White, the
Speaker 2: original place took place, and they had children working in
Speaker 2: those minds that would be represented by these gnomes. So
Speaker 2: there's there's other ones too that we're going to get into.
Speaker 1: You could almost rewrite that as the colbolt mines that
Speaker 1: we currently mind right now.
Speaker 2: If you got a cell phone, yeah, then then basically
Speaker 2: then the earth elementals have exchanged. You gave them human
Speaker 2: intellect and spirit and they give you a cell phone.
Speaker 1: Exactly. We could rewrite that, sure, bros. Phone is the
Speaker 1: scream here.
Speaker 2: Bro, here, here's a little bit deeper, just as like
Speaker 2: a little taste of like the occult Disney angle. So
Speaker 2: there's also a story from he Owe and her name
Speaker 2: means snow in Greek, and it's also been translated a Winner,
Speaker 2: but basically a Greek version of snow White that obviously
Speaker 2: predates the fifteen thirty three version, and basically she compares
Speaker 2: her beauty to Artemis the Hunter, and that offends Artemis
Speaker 2: so much that Artemis kills her. So the original story
Speaker 2: of snow White is that the step mother is essentially
Speaker 2: the old Crone archetype, and she is threatened by the
Speaker 2: beauty of snow White. In the Greek version, Artemis is
Speaker 2: being threatened by the beauty of a lady named snow Also,
Speaker 2: Artemis is the hunter. In snow White, the evil stepmother
Speaker 2: hires the hunter to go out and kill snow White.
Speaker 2: So you've got another It's just it's an interesting blending.
Speaker 2: So if it's not a direct adaptation, which I don't
Speaker 2: think it is, at the very least, it's like a synchronicity. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like the same archetype that people keep bumping into
Speaker 2: and it keeps making sense to where it's never going
Speaker 2: to die out, like you're going to keep seeing the
Speaker 2: story play out over and over again. So I've from
Speaker 2: between the two historical aspects, and then this, like Artemis
Speaker 2: as the evil stepmother aspect, snow White just feels like
Speaker 2: a reverberation of the same story over and over. You're
Speaker 2: not You're not gonna get your kids to go and
Speaker 2: see the story of Artemis. But they might go and
Speaker 2: see snow White from Walt Disney or whatever the new
Speaker 2: iteration of that's gonna be SpongeBob something or other.
Speaker 1: Right, SpongeBob under the C two point zero story of Artemis.
Speaker 2: So here's another example of a real story that kind
Speaker 2: of gets hidden tangled, which was just a version of Rapunzel,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people know Rapunzel. It's the girl
Speaker 2: that puts the hair down out of the tower and
Speaker 2: the guy goes up and he climbs it. Well, it's
Speaker 2: interesting is that both of those stories are likely based
Speaker 2: on a real historical figure as well, called Saint Barbara.
Speaker 2: If you ever heard of the city Santa Barbara, she
Speaker 2: is literally it was named after Saint Barbara. A lot
Speaker 2: of people don't realize that she's the patron saint of artillery,
Speaker 2: which is why you'll usually see her with cannons or
Speaker 2: sometimes rifles. If it's like a modern thing, there's usually
Speaker 2: going to be a tower in the background, just like
Speaker 2: Rapunzel that she lived in, and there's a lightning strike.
Speaker 2: So the premise of Rapunzel is that she gets locked
Speaker 2: up in the tower and they're trying to like prevent
Speaker 2: their virgin daughter from getting knocked up. Essentially, right, if
Speaker 2: you're just going to oversimplify it, that's kind of the story.
Speaker 2: In the story of Saint Barbara, it was her dad
Speaker 2: was a pagan and she wanted to convert to Christianity,
Speaker 2: and he didn't want that to happen because Christians were
Speaker 2: starting to like, you know, flow through the nation. So
Speaker 2: he ends up locking her in a tower to prevent
Speaker 2: her from going and turning into a Christian. And you'll
Speaker 2: see on a lot of the towers they'll actually have
Speaker 2: like the little like Holy Trinity symbol to show that
Speaker 2: even when she was locked up, she was still in
Speaker 2: this search of becoming a Christian because of like everything
Speaker 2: that she was doing. Her dad finds out about this,
Speaker 2: he gets her out of the tower, beheads her, and
Speaker 2: then he's immediately struck down by lightning and he dies.
Speaker 2: So this is where you'll see Saint Barbara is Rapunzel,
Speaker 2: is this artillery goddess, and the artillery being that her
Speaker 2: death was immediately avenged by the gods through this lightning strike.
Speaker 2: So now any form of lightning or firepower, explosives, gunpowder, bullets,
Speaker 2: they're all attributed to Saint Barbara, who again is Rapunzel,
Speaker 2: who ends up in a Disney movie called Tangled.
Speaker 1: Is that supposed to be a true story or a
Speaker 1: myth of Saint Barbara?
Speaker 2: I believe it's it's supposed to be a true story,
Speaker 2: not a myth. And of course I think it's probably
Speaker 2: been embellished, and you know, through syncretism, it's kind of
Speaker 2: meshed with other stories over time a little bit. But
Speaker 2: I do believe that the core of that is true,
Speaker 2: that a pagan dad locked his daughter up and then
Speaker 2: when she went against his word, he killed her, and
Speaker 2: then he got he died from a lightning strike. All
Speaker 2: that sounds like something that could reasonably happen in the
Speaker 2: real world, you know.
Speaker 1: Sounds like Christian propaganda to me.
Speaker 2: So here's another here's a more fun version of Disney
Speaker 2: Villains and Chernobog. And the first thing to note is
Speaker 2: that this is from Fantasia, and this is a night
Speaker 2: on Bald Mountain. And if you look at the silhouette
Speaker 2: of Chernibog when he has his wings up, because he's
Speaker 2: like a legitimate demon, his his name translates to the
Speaker 2: black God, and he was a Slavic Germanic entity, which
Speaker 2: we're this is gonna get kind of deepier. But look
Speaker 2: at the silhouette and you'll see that that silhouette is
Speaker 2: repeated by Disney in a lot of their other villain designs.
Speaker 2: The one that's the most obvious is Maleficent, so you
Speaker 2: can see, like Mollficen's head is the exact same shape
Speaker 2: as the wings of Chernobog. And this is intentional what
Speaker 2: Fantasia does. And I really believe this one strongly. Fantasia
Speaker 2: is a literal magical spell that Disney cast onto the
Speaker 2: world to create a fit like a reality, to make
Speaker 2: the Disney world a real world, right like like it's
Speaker 2: it's an actual thing that exists in a way that
Speaker 2: me and you could be dead for one hundred years
Speaker 2: and no one will ever remember either of us have
Speaker 2: ever existed or anything we ever said, but Disney, the
Speaker 2: company and the corporation, they will They will outlive almost
Speaker 2: anyone on the planet right now. So in that way,
Speaker 2: like the spell worked, and that every time someone watches Fantasia,
Speaker 2: or any time a new movie comes out that uses
Speaker 2: a theme from Fantasia, whenever I'm a Lificent remake comes out,
Speaker 2: it's just recasting that spell over and over again and
Speaker 2: just making it stronger each time. And I think that's
Speaker 2: that's almost how you can interpret most Disney movies, is like, oh,
Speaker 2: let's time to put another spell on real quick, and
Speaker 2: it all starts with Fantasia.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, that makes sense because you're totally right,
Speaker 1: Disney and Disney movies will outlive probably everyone. And always
Speaker 1: thought that that would be interesting. What if someone in
Speaker 1: two hundred years just stumbles across the random movie Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie Galaxy Quest?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim Mallen.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, where these real aliens come down and they
Speaker 1: think that the show that these people were about was
Speaker 1: about real events. They think they were real space ship
Speaker 1: people going around, you know, killing aliens in space. Like
Speaker 1: what if that would actually happen in like two to
Speaker 1: three hundred years in the future. People take a lot
Speaker 1: of these movies that we've made as like historical documents
Speaker 1: and historical fact If.
Speaker 2: It were Disney and it were nineties or pre nineties,
Speaker 2: then they'd still be right. I don't know if Galaxy
Speaker 2: Quests would be as accurate, but I feel like Disney
Speaker 2: was is accurately retelling real things that happened that just
Speaker 2: turned into mystery school stories. And then mystery school stories
Speaker 2: over thousands of years turned into old wives tales and
Speaker 2: stories that Grandma would tell the youngins. But they're essentially
Speaker 2: the same accurate stories being told over and over again.
Speaker 2: And then here's another example of how Chernobog. And again
Speaker 2: this is not like, oh well, Disney is sneaking in
Speaker 2: you know these these evil references. No, this is all
Speaker 2: completely out in the open. No one ever denied this.
Speaker 2: There's interviews with the music director that said why he
Speaker 2: picked all of these different songs. And for example, churnal
Speaker 2: Bog is also the name of a mountain called journal Bog,
Speaker 2: and journal Bog had the name of Hell and Devilstone,
Speaker 2: and that also there's this area around this Zernobo, which
Speaker 2: is where they said there's ancient objects. There's a place
Speaker 2: called Devil's pulpit, devil's window, and a sacrificial cauldron. So
Speaker 2: these this is a real factual place that the chernobug
Speaker 2: demon that they decided to depict in this episode of Fantasia.
Speaker 2: This is like some of the oldest cult like word
Speaker 2: like black magic worshiping cults that they decided to kind
Speaker 2: of archetype this after. So none of this is just
Speaker 2: by accident, and it's all really fascinating to me. So
Speaker 2: this it's gonna go a little bit deeper. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna just straight up read it, but if you look
Speaker 2: into the region itself, these weren't just regular Slavs. These
Speaker 2: Slavs end up becoming part of eastern Germany. So the
Speaker 2: reason why this is important is because look at all
Speaker 2: of the early Disney films outside of Pinocchio, a large
Speaker 2: majority are Grim fairy Tales, and Grim fairy Tales were
Speaker 2: largely Germanic folklore, and the Grim fairy Tales was second
Speaker 2: only to the Bible, so in terms of sales, in
Speaker 2: terms of popularity, and I would even argue that when
Speaker 2: the Grim fairy Tales were out, if you had Grim's
Speaker 2: fairy Tales and you had the Bible in your bookshelf.
Speaker 2: There's a good chance you read Grim's fairy Tales more
Speaker 2: than the Bible, because you had to have the Bible,
Speaker 2: Like everyone had to have a copy of the Bible.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you could be like someone would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: how come you don't have a copy of the Bible? Right,
Speaker 2: But if you had Grim's fairy Tales, it was likely
Speaker 2: because you were actively reading it, or you're reading it
Speaker 2: to kids, or you were reading it yourself. Like this
Speaker 2: was like incredible, Like it was the only Harry Potter
Speaker 2: that existed. Right. So, the popularity of Grim's fairy Tales
Speaker 2: paired with the German identity crisis that was going on
Speaker 2: at the tail end of the nineteenth in the early
Speaker 2: twentieth century, combined with Walt Disney repopularizing Grim's fairy Tales
Speaker 2: all over again through his animation in the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2: I've then there's a strong argument here that like all
Speaker 2: of this kind of like comes to a head. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that Walt Disney started World War Two,
Speaker 2: but he invigorated, he helped invigorate this you know, Germanic
Speaker 2: nation that had been going through an identity crisis, and
Speaker 2: then was all of a sudden popular with the entire
Speaker 2: world over who and we're gonna we're going to return
Speaker 2: to that too, because it's gonna come up again a
Speaker 2: few different times, which is a you know, the the
Speaker 2: Werner von Braun and Heinz Haber who also came over
Speaker 2: in paper Clip. He doesn't get as much recognition, but
Speaker 2: he also had a kids show on the Disney Channel.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these original stories originally from Germany,
Speaker 1: these original fair.
Speaker 2: Grim fairy tales, and they would they would often go
Speaker 2: to Grim fairy Tales. Disney has a they would revisit
Speaker 2: Grim for a lot of their inspiration on early movies.
Speaker 2: And I'll go into some non Grim fairy Tales ones too,
Speaker 2: but that was definitely all all sort of Germanic or
Speaker 2: at least like Slavic Eastern European folklore. That essentially, if
Speaker 2: you're not familiar with Grim fairy tales, the Grim Brothers
Speaker 2: were actually historians, and before the fairy tales, they wrote
Speaker 2: the history of Germany like they were like the the
Speaker 2: number one book on Germanic history, and they basically applied
Speaker 2: the exact same level of research and detail to folklore,
Speaker 2: so they weren't just guys that were interested in stories
Speaker 2: that people were telling their kids. They were actively trying
Speaker 2: to reconstruct an entire cultural identity that had been lost
Speaker 2: for however long, hundreds or thousands of years.
Speaker 1: It seems, wow, that's super fascinating.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna keep going on to Oh
Speaker 2: and another fun little fact is that there is this
Speaker 2: was discovered in two thousand and eight, but there's some
Speaker 2: sort of an astrological alignment where you can witness the
Speaker 2: Winner solstice at the actual Churnobog location at the very
Speaker 2: top of this mountain called the Hand of the Gods.
Speaker 2: So anyways, there this specific location in which Fantasia and
Speaker 2: Chernobog are introduced, like the very first Disney villain. Essentially
Speaker 2: that there's all sorts of astrological alignment to it, so
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's probably just a coincidence. And then here
Speaker 2: is a quote from Deams Taylor. Deams Taylor was the
Speaker 2: master of ceremonies in Fantasia. Since it's essentially like a musical,
Speaker 2: He's the one that decided what music would go in
Speaker 2: and he said quote Bald Mountain, according to jurdition, is
Speaker 2: the gathering place of Satan and his followers on Wahlberger's Night,
Speaker 2: the equivalent of our Halloween. So he is talking about
Speaker 2: why they included this scene because they wanted something to
Speaker 2: represent a Satanic ritual by name. This isn't trying to
Speaker 2: read between the lines. This is literally the guy that
Speaker 2: put that song and that scene in there. And then
Speaker 2: if you want to go on a whole Wallburger's tangent.
Speaker 2: But it's essentially like the movie, the A twenty four movie.
Speaker 2: I'm flanking on the name, but the may Day not hereditary,
Speaker 2: but it was the other one that's essentially just another
Speaker 2: variation of this Wallburger's Night. And then Midsummer there you
Speaker 2: go with wicker Man, like all of the like, these
Speaker 2: were all different variations of a similar, similar ritual that
Speaker 2: happened at the same time, either like the day before
Speaker 2: the day after. There's also a Satan John's Day. And
Speaker 2: then here I told you we were gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: keep going back to World War two and like these
Speaker 2: interesting notes here, and you mentioned the Olympics when we
Speaker 2: first started talking. Interesting this is a fun one to
Speaker 2: come up on trivia night. The first television tower in
Speaker 2: the entire world ever in human history, the first television
Speaker 2: tower was built on the Brocken, which is the mountain
Speaker 2: in which Wahberger's Night was actually being celebrated, in which
Speaker 2: Churn of Bogs depicted that actual mountain in real human history.
Speaker 2: Was the first television station antenna to ever be erected,
Speaker 2: and it was erected by the Nazis specifically to broadcast
Speaker 2: the Olympics one time, and then they took it down.
Speaker 2: So they erected an antenna on Devil's Mountain just to
Speaker 2: broadcast the first television broadcast ever and then took it
Speaker 2: back down again. I just I find that endlessly fascinating.
Speaker 1: I knew that the TV was of the Devil.
Speaker 2: Paranoid American, seriously, add this one to your notebook. Man,
Speaker 2: This one is uh, it's it's hard to disprove because
Speaker 2: it is so well documented because of the Olympic aspect
Speaker 2: to it. Okay, here's another fun one. So let's get
Speaker 2: out of grim for a second. Now we're going to
Speaker 2: get into Italian occultism. So we got Pinocchio. Some people
Speaker 2: have rightfully connected the story of Pinocchio to the Golden
Speaker 2: Ass and long story short, it's that if you reject
Speaker 2: an education, if you reject logic and reason and the
Speaker 2: ability to think with your mind, then you're going to
Speaker 2: be forced to work with your hands. That you're going
Speaker 2: to become a beast of burden if you can't elevate
Speaker 2: your mind. That was sort of like this very high
Speaker 2: ambitious political version of Pinocchio and of the Golden Ass. However,
Speaker 2: Pinocchio gets even more a cult and specific than that connection.
Speaker 2: That one's a strong one because they follow almost the
Speaker 2: same beats where they leave school and he goes into
Speaker 2: a circus, and then it starts, you start turning into
Speaker 2: an animal, and you actually become a literal beast of burden. However,
Speaker 2: the guy that wrote the real og Pinocchio story, it
Speaker 2: was Carlo Lorenzini, and he had a pen name but
Speaker 2: in Lorenzeni. In addition to writing Pinocchio, which came out
Speaker 2: in political newspapers at the time, it was he was
Speaker 2: basically like a strong political activist that was writing under
Speaker 2: these pen names and revolutionary newspapers. And one of these
Speaker 2: newspapers he had written a sympathetic article to the Carbonari.
Speaker 2: The Carbonari were basically a Masonic Italian political offshoot, also
Speaker 2: known as the Charcoal burners in that they would meet
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night clandestinely and they would
Speaker 2: burn you know, charcoal as to not have like an
Speaker 2: open fire, so that they could see but not attract.
Speaker 2: And then also that they would write symbols or sigils
Speaker 2: or messages with the charcoal. And if you look at
Speaker 2: early interpretations of the Italian Pinocchio, there are references to
Speaker 2: the charcoles because they would go into like a hut
Speaker 2: and expect to see like a scene with a pot
Speaker 2: boiling at a stove in the hearth, and they'd see
Speaker 2: that was actually etched into the wall or etched in
Speaker 2: with charcoal. This was a reference to them being a carbonari.
Speaker 2: So there's like a political aspect to it. The symbol
Speaker 2: in the middle that was the symbol of the Carbonari,
Speaker 2: like their their Masonic version of like a little magical sigil.
Speaker 2: And then again man this concept of Pinocchio going and
Speaker 2: becoming a beast of burden, this was something that was
Speaker 2: actively happening in Italy, specifically all over Italy, but in Sicily.
Speaker 2: There were these Sicilian sulfur mines that I think were
Speaker 2: in existence up until like mid twentieth century, and it
Speaker 2: took a lot of different people to basically bring this.
Speaker 2: I think like Booker T. Washington, he actually was quoted
Speaker 2: as saying that when he found out about these sulfur
Speaker 2: mines in Sicily, that it was worse than anything that
Speaker 2: any like, you know, black slave in America had gone
Speaker 2: through compared to what these kids were going through. And
Speaker 2: this was also happening in the time when Pinocchio was
Speaker 2: being written, So part of this story about kids being
Speaker 2: kidnapped and forced to work was really happening during the
Speaker 2: lifetime in which the book itself came out.
Speaker 1: Pinocchio was a slave bro we was slaves.
Speaker 2: And then here's a there's an actual name for it,
Speaker 2: so Carusu or carusi. It's a Sicilian word for the
Speaker 2: term boy, but it basically just translated to any of
Speaker 2: these kids that were working in these mines. And this
Speaker 2: was going on until the nineteen fifties, so this is
Speaker 2: this was going on for hundreds of years, and this
Speaker 2: is essentially what Pleasure Island would evolve into. Like Pleasure
Speaker 2: Island is where they would get they would lure you
Speaker 2: away from going to school so that you know, you'd
Speaker 2: drink alcohol, you'd smoke cigarette, just anything other than going
Speaker 2: to school and becoming part of the system. And once
Speaker 2: they were able to remove you from the system, then
Speaker 2: they could kidnap you and literally force you to work
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: Okay, islands here, real quick, paranoid American. There was a
Speaker 1: period of time that the Disney World Cruise would take people,
Speaker 1: take the children over to Little Saint James Island.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I know, actually know a little bit about
Speaker 2: this one. I didn't go on this excursion. So it
Speaker 2: was a Disney cruise line. Disney owns their own islands.
Speaker 2: One of their islands is adjacent to Little Saint James,
Speaker 2: and they had an excursion so that while while you
Speaker 2: were at Disney's island, your family could have paid a
Speaker 2: lot of money, probably a few hundred dollars at least,
Speaker 2: to go on a coral reef excursion at Little Saint
Speaker 2: James to where you would like, you know, go over
Speaker 2: there for the afternoon, snorkel and then hopefully you make
Speaker 2: your way back to the cruise ship. So it wasn't
Speaker 2: that Disney ship was going there or that Disney was
Speaker 2: sending people there. It was that they had an excursion
Speaker 2: and that someone from Little Saint James would take your
Speaker 2: money and bring you to the island. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm splitting hairs here, but I just I just
Speaker 2: felt like we could be exact on this.
Speaker 1: But still either way, either way if Disney taking there
Speaker 1: from the island, coming to get them.
Speaker 2: Honestly, since we're on that topic too, I might as
Speaker 2: well point this one out. I don't have a slide
Speaker 2: for it, but there's an image of Gislaine Maxwell who's
Speaker 2: like dancing next to a Pluto on a stage and
Speaker 2: it says Disney or something in the background behind her,
Speaker 2: and that often comes up as looks she was, you know,
Speaker 2: working for Disney. She was on the payroll. She was
Speaker 2: like recruiting kids. Like I believe that that was actually
Speaker 2: like a Channel four event and that Channel four had
Speaker 2: paid for Disney characters to show up and like be
Speaker 2: on stage and stuff, but it was not a Disney event,
Speaker 2: and that Gislaine Maxwell didn't work for Disney. She worked
Speaker 2: doing something for Channel four. Again, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's splitting hairs. It just it's another interesting Epstein Gislaine
Speaker 2: Maxwell Disney connection.
Speaker 1: Well, people found out through the files that Epstein had
Speaker 1: like a year long or multiple year long past to
Speaker 1: Disney World.
Speaker 2: Or I'm surprised that he wasn't Club thirty three.
Speaker 1: Club thirty three baby, because.
Speaker 2: Club thirty three at that point is just a flex,
Speaker 2: but it also means that you never have to wait
Speaker 2: in line. So I feel like he he'd be the
Speaker 2: kind of guy that would have gotten the Club thirty
Speaker 2: three pass, and then you don't. You don't need the more.
Speaker 2: And I think the Club thirty three is like fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year per park, So if you want
Speaker 2: to be a member in three different parks, it's one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty a year.
Speaker 1: That's nothing to the multi billion.
Speaker 2: It's a flex more than it's like a thing that
Speaker 2: you would care about. So Okay, here's the one of
Speaker 2: the theories that I'm not going to take credit for
Speaker 2: that I can't remember who I heard this from, or
Speaker 2: maybe I should just take credit. But yeah, it's called
Speaker 2: the Disney proxy, and it's it can be more complicated,
Speaker 2: but the dumbest version, the most simplified version, is that
Speaker 2: you traumatize a kid, you introduce them to a cute
Speaker 2: little sidekick that's their savior, and then you sell that
Speaker 2: kid chochkeys related to their savior and that in if
Speaker 2: your kids like so, here's here's the general premise is
Speaker 2: that you sit your kid down in front of the
Speaker 2: TV and you gotta go do taxes, you gotta go
Speaker 2: do dishes, you gotta go fix the car, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You're like, I just need an hour to go and
Speaker 2: do adult stuff. So we're gonna PLoP you down in
Speaker 2: front of the TV. We're gonna put on Disney tape
Speaker 2: because Disney is more or less like I can trust
Speaker 2: that it's not gonna do something horrible to you. That's
Speaker 2: the sale right of Disney is like family friendly, so
Speaker 2: that if I go in the other room, I can
Speaker 2: just leave you to it. So when that happens, if
Speaker 2: you're five years old and your parent leaves the room,
Speaker 2: to a five year old mind with maybe still developing
Speaker 2: the concept of like per object permanence, right, if mom
Speaker 2: leaves the room, mom might as well be dead until
Speaker 2: you know she comes back into the room. You're still
Speaker 2: figuring things out. So you put your five year old
Speaker 2: in front of this show. In that movie, Bambi's mom
Speaker 2: becomes the kid's mom because the kids mom's in the
Speaker 2: other room. She's doing or something. So now like you're
Speaker 2: bonding with this character or the dad of its lion king, right,
Speaker 2: and then when the mom dies, this kid might for
Speaker 2: a five year old mind, it might be the first
Speaker 2: time in their life where they've gone through this psychological
Speaker 2: mental exercise of mommy died, What do I do? What
Speaker 2: do I do if mom dies? Wow, I've never considered
Speaker 2: that before. What happens when my mom actually dies? And
Speaker 2: they start thinking, even if they're not actively thinking that
Speaker 2: the back of the head like seeds are being planted.
Speaker 2: So now it's kind of traumatic. If that's the first
Speaker 2: time you've ever thought about your own mortality or the
Speaker 2: mortality of your parents and your loved ones, it could
Speaker 2: kind of spiral you a little bit. If your head's
Speaker 2: not big enough to fully contemplate it, you still kind
Speaker 2: of get stuck in this trauma mode. So there's three
Speaker 2: main ways that happens in Disney movies. Either the parent dies,
Speaker 2: which is a pretty obvious one, or you get separated
Speaker 2: or lost. You could almost consider like maybe an Alice
Speaker 2: in Wonderland would be like this, Maybe Mary Poppins would
Speaker 2: be like this, where the kids are removed from any
Speaker 2: authority figures and they're out in the world fending for
Speaker 2: themselves and it's unknown if they ever make it back.
Speaker 2: And then the third one is a more extreme version
Speaker 2: of that where you get kidnapped. But all three of
Speaker 2: these are forcing a young mind to actually go through
Speaker 2: via this process of oh my god, my mom just died,
Speaker 2: or oh my god, I'm lost and I might never
Speaker 2: get home, or oh my god, I was just kidnapped.
Speaker 2: So once they're in this new traumatic state thinking new thoughts,
Speaker 2: the first thing that Disney's gonna do is put a
Speaker 2: very cute sidekick savior character. They're gonna save you. And
Speaker 2: what happens is that you now have this nlp anchor
Speaker 2: of in this case Thumper. We're gonna have a bunch
Speaker 2: of examples, and now whenever you're gonna see Thumper, after
Speaker 2: you've seen this movie, you're gonna feel a little bit
Speaker 2: of relief. You're gonna be like, oh, I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but I feel like a little more at e then
Speaker 2: I just did five seconds ago. It might be you
Speaker 2: were walking down the isle in Walmart and you saw
Speaker 2: a Thumper backpack. You don't know why you felt that way,
Speaker 2: but this is the reason it's because sometime earlier in life,
Speaker 2: Thumper saved, like literally saved you and became your new
Speaker 2: parental figure. And you're gonna see this happen over and
Speaker 2: over again. Lion King is an example. You kill the parent,
Speaker 2: you introduce the cute sidekicks, you sell the chochkeys with
Speaker 2: the sidekicks, and up, even if it's not a kid
Speaker 2: that's dying here, you've got like an old man that
Speaker 2: loses someone gets a sidekick, the sidekick gets cool little chochkeys.
Speaker 2: Even in Frozen Frozen she gets she ages a little bit,
Speaker 2: her parents go away on a trip and just never
Speaker 2: come back. And then you get ol Off, and then
Speaker 2: oll Off becomes an expensive Lorcana card or a Funko pop. Right, So,
Speaker 2: like this constant theme that I called a Disney proxy
Speaker 2: where traumatize the kid, introduced the kid to a cute
Speaker 2: little character that's then gonna be a happy meal toy
Speaker 2: or a Lorcanic card, or a or a sneaker or
Speaker 2: something out in the real world, and then just keep
Speaker 2: capitalizing on that for the rest of their life. Because
Speaker 2: and this is where Disney adults become so useful. Where
Speaker 2: a Disney adult is still feeling some sort of ease
Speaker 2: by seeing Thumper, even when they're like fifty years old.
Speaker 2: Whoa bro.
Speaker 1: That is a deep rooted psychological manipulation, and I can
Speaker 1: definitely see how that works. As you were explaining that,
Speaker 1: I was immediately thinking to one of the first Disney
Speaker 1: movies that I ever saw, which was Tarzan. Tarzan the
Speaker 1: animated movie, and what happens in that Tarzan loses his parents.
Speaker 2: There's some theories that the parents and Frozen are the
Speaker 2: parents in Tarzan. Here's another fun This is my favorite
Speaker 2: part about Tarzan. If you look at the original story
Speaker 2: of Tarzan. The premise. Again, this is like kind of
Speaker 2: Rosicruciani maybe, but it was that the blood of a
Speaker 2: British aristocrat was so inherently superior to any other race
Speaker 2: of human being that you could literally take a British aristocrat,
Speaker 2: drop them in the middle of a jungle and they
Speaker 2: would thrive. Not only would they thrive, they would become
Speaker 2: the king of the jungle. And that's what Tarzan is.
Speaker 2: Tarzan represents that British aristocracy is just inherently better than
Speaker 2: anything else in the world, and that it will always
Speaker 2: thrive no matter what environment you put it in.
Speaker 1: This is really crazy right here. I believe this absolutely,
Speaker 1: that this is happening, and this explains why kids are
Speaker 1: so crazy about Disney movies because they've been traumatized by
Speaker 1: watching it, and they get their best friend within that movie,
Speaker 1: and they're put into that type of scenario even though
Speaker 1: it's not real life, they're watching a fictional version of it.
Speaker 1: And then the parents don't understand why they like these
Speaker 1: characters so much, especially in the beginning. You know, of
Speaker 1: course people are now parents that grew up with a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff, but I feel like even in
Speaker 1: the nineties or in the eighties, parents didn't really understand
Speaker 1: why their kids like these shows so much. But this
Speaker 1: explains it.
Speaker 2: And I think it's also really interesting to note that
Speaker 2: I think Disney found this formula out on accident because
Speaker 2: they came out with Bambi and something called the Bambi
Speaker 2: effect happened, or you can look up like Bambi syndrome.
Speaker 2: But essentially, after Bamby came out and everyone saw Bambi's
Speaker 2: mom die and here's this adorable Bamby yawning and mom,
Speaker 2: where are you mom? Right, like, people were upset and
Speaker 2: there was actual legislation and cultural change where it became
Speaker 2: less acceptable socially to hunt and eat deer, and it
Speaker 2: actually got so out of control that there became an
Speaker 2: overpopulation issue with deer, and then they had to start
Speaker 2: aggressively overcoming the deer because they had let it go
Speaker 2: unchecked for too long again because of like like public
Speaker 2: pressure that people saw the Disney movie and complain to
Speaker 2: their local you know, politicians, and it changed the landscape
Speaker 2: for the worst. And I think when this happened first,
Speaker 2: Disney was like, Okay, that's interesting, Like, we have some
Speaker 2: real power here. We have to be a little bit
Speaker 2: more careful now about how we wield this power. But
Speaker 2: I think also the when they realize, oh, if you
Speaker 2: kill the authority figure, it does something extra. Even though
Speaker 2: it's just a cartoon, it does like something beyond what
Speaker 2: anyone was expecting. So again, I feel like that when
Speaker 2: they killed Bambi's mom, it was like a happy accident.
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, what was this. Let's keep trying
Speaker 2: this out, and then over the years they make it
Speaker 2: so that it's almost like a formula, and then you've
Speaker 2: got movies that can do this over and over again,
Speaker 2: where they can kill characters over and over. Like Coco
Speaker 2: is a good example, where like they have regular death
Speaker 2: and they have like a second in deaths, So now
Speaker 2: like everybody gets to die and see their loved ones
Speaker 2: die and go back to like it gets but again,
Speaker 2: then that one's almost like a logmarthic function, whereas this
Speaker 2: is like the most simple algebraic version of that first.
Speaker 1: Wow, then they just kept repeating the same formula over
Speaker 1: and over and over again.
Speaker 2: So here's here's what I would consider the darker side
Speaker 2: of Disney. And we won't get too much beyond this one,
Speaker 2: but it's so easy to ruin a Disney movie for yourself.
Speaker 2: If you look into it just enough, you're gonna find
Speaker 2: something that's gonna be like, eh, I wish I didn't
Speaker 2: know that. So here's my example is that Sword in
Speaker 2: the Stone was probably my favorite Disney movie of all time.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love this movie. I think I saw it
Speaker 2: the most times out of anything. Where this one gets
Speaker 2: kind of weird is just if you look at the
Speaker 2: original author Sword in the Stone by THH. White. THH.
Speaker 2: White was this old old guy that didn't develop any
Speaker 2: adult relationships with anyone, and he fell in love with
Speaker 2: a twelve year old boy when he was in his
Speaker 2: late fifties, and that a lot of the work and
Speaker 2: a lot of his diary entries basically we were just
Speaker 2: talking about this constant struggle that he was going through,
Speaker 2: that if he wanted to express the love that he
Speaker 2: had in his soul, that society would reject him, and
Speaker 2: that it was like the most painful thing ever. And
Speaker 2: his later biographer basically said that this turned him into
Speaker 2: a sado massachis that he he he might have had
Speaker 2: some like pretty strong other diary entries that never made
Speaker 2: it to like the full public light. But when you
Speaker 2: start learning about this guy's actual background, and then I'm
Speaker 2: like rewatching Sword in the Stone and I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 2: here's this old guy that looks kind of like him,
Speaker 2: smoking the pipe, lives out in the middle of the woods,
Speaker 2: and he's luring an orphaned boy to learn all about magic,
Speaker 2: and he's not allowed to go home and tell any
Speaker 2: of the adults about it. All of a sudden, now
Speaker 2: it's like the story of Sword in the Stone and
Speaker 2: the story of an old guy that literally lured a
Speaker 2: young twelve year old away from his family to try
Speaker 2: and teach him magic. As a you know, a euphemism.
Speaker 2: So here's just an example of I mean, if another
Speaker 2: maybe a darker one, who would be like powder, But
Speaker 2: we're not going to get into powder because it's not animated.
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of the story of the original Star
Speaker 1: Wars trilogy too. Well, we wantingob be an old man
Speaker 1: luring a teenage boy into the woods to teach him magic.
Speaker 2: It's a story as old as time. It's of here's
Speaker 2: an here's an example of a thing that comes up constantly,
Speaker 2: and this is the Walt Disney was a freemason, and
Speaker 2: I just maybe with an asterisk. So if if you
Speaker 2: care about the fine details, there's plenty of examples where
Speaker 2: Walt drew Mickey Mouse as a day Olay. There was
Speaker 2: even an entire skit where he opens up the Barnyard
Speaker 2: chapter of dam Olay, and it has a lot of
Speaker 2: the different characters that you'll see repeatedly coming out in
Speaker 2: the rest of the early Disney movies. So here's a
Speaker 2: photo in the bottom right corner with Walt Disney and
Speaker 2: some other dem Olay and then on the bottom left corner,
Speaker 2: this is the modern version of Dame Olay. But it
Speaker 2: is basically cub Scouts for Masons if you're too young
Speaker 2: to join the actual Masons, So if you're not like
Speaker 2: twenty yet, but either you have a family member that
Speaker 2: wants you to be in it, or you know it
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a sort of like an after
Speaker 2: school curricular thing. Who knows. Who knows how a kid
Speaker 2: winds up in the Masons or in the the Damola,
Speaker 2: which is cub Scouts for Masons. Walt Disney not only
Speaker 2: did he find himself in the Masons, but he was
Speaker 2: actually under the wing of the original, the founder of
Speaker 2: Dame Olay. It's this guy named Frank Sherman Land, and
Speaker 2: everyone called him Dad, and that still goes on now.
Speaker 2: If you join the Day Malay, you usually call your
Speaker 2: equivalent of like your Scout master. They call him Dad,
Speaker 2: just a little bit weird. And then here's a photo
Speaker 2: of Walt Disney and Vivian and with Frank Land later
Speaker 2: on in life. And I think that his experience in
Speaker 2: Dame Olay, this is where he got his occultism, and
Speaker 2: this is where he got his drive and his ability
Speaker 2: to just say, like, I'm gonna make my own reality.
Speaker 2: Because as a young kid, you know, as like a
Speaker 2: thirteen or fourteen year old learning about the Knight's Templar
Speaker 2: and learn about all of these esoteric principles doing literal
Speaker 2: magical rituals because they do the same Masonic footwork where
Speaker 2: they you know, they go around certain number of times,
Speaker 2: they like certain number of candles, they say like little oaths.
Speaker 2: All of that's happening. So you've got this very young
Speaker 2: Walt Disney going through a very real secret society initiation
Speaker 2: based on knights Templar. Of course he's going to come
Speaker 2: out and put occultism into everything he does. There's no
Speaker 2: way that he can't. That's this is what shaped him
Speaker 2: as a young kid. Absolutely, And I want to say
Speaker 2: the most insidious of Disney movies. The common examples, the
Speaker 2: one that comes up the most maybe are the dick
Speaker 2: castles in Little Mermaid poster, right, the little castle in
Speaker 2: the background. They look like little decks. Then you've got
Speaker 2: the the Rescuers where they're flying down a city scape
Speaker 2: and there's like a naked lady in one of the windows.
Speaker 2: Really quickly, there's the line that some people say is
Speaker 2: all teenagers take off your clothes in Aladdin. There's the
Speaker 2: part in Lion King where he jumps into the little
Speaker 2: cloud of like dust and feathers and it spells out
Speaker 2: the word sex and the sky really briefly. There's even
Speaker 2: a deleted scene and Who Framed Roger Rabbit in which
Speaker 2: Jessica Rabbit gets into a car wreck and her she
Speaker 2: opens her legs as she falls out of the car,
Speaker 2: And they intentionally created that scene and then deleted it
Speaker 2: just so they could have a deleted scene that like
Speaker 2: people would talk about. These are the ones that I
Speaker 2: think I might have missed one or two, but those
Speaker 2: are the ones that come up the most in that
Speaker 2: Disney's trying to corrupt your kids. Disney's trying to convert
Speaker 2: your kids into sex crazed maniacs. I don't think that
Speaker 2: your kids seeing three letters on the screen for like
Speaker 2: a half second is going to do it. I don't
Speaker 2: think a dick Castle is going to do it. You
Speaker 2: Know what I do think can harm your child, though,
Speaker 2: is teaching them that it's toys love him back, and
Speaker 2: that they feel physical pain, and that if you if
Speaker 2: you relinquish control over your material possessions, that you're essentially
Speaker 2: killing them, that you are torturing these things that love you.
Speaker 2: I think That is probably one of the most insidious
Speaker 2: lessons that Disney can put into anything. I would much
Speaker 2: rather dick castles and churnal bug and black magic and
Speaker 2: horoscopes than teaching my kids that, you know, like, your
Speaker 2: toys love you back, so therefore you should put like
Speaker 2: a spiritual investment into your material possessions. That is so
Speaker 2: crazy to me. And Toy Story is one of the
Speaker 2: bigger examples. Toy Story. I would say that, like, what
Speaker 2: is it, brave Little toaster walk so Toy Story can run.
Speaker 2: They both are the exact same premise that material possessions
Speaker 2: have a soul and a spirit and therefore it's almost
Speaker 2: bad to get rid of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's also one in the marriage scene of The Little
Speaker 1: Mermaid where the preacher or the priest or whatever looks
Speaker 1: like he has a boner.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, again, I would say that even if let's
Speaker 2: just say that that is one hundred percent of boner,
Speaker 2: and I would say it is I'm not I am
Speaker 2: a hug like that he has a boner. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna if that's gonna harm a young
Speaker 2: viewer that sees that versus being taught that their toys
Speaker 2: love them back and to not throw out their toys.
Speaker 2: And even better, if you look at the first toy
Speaker 2: story Sid, who's seen as like the bad guy, because
Speaker 2: what a Sid do? Sid takes broken toys and he
Speaker 2: puts them back together, So he's like making his own toys.
Speaker 2: He's recycling things, which is not what Disney wants you
Speaker 2: to do. Disney wants you to go to the store
Speaker 2: and buy your ass a brand new license, trademark, you know,
Speaker 2: approved Disney product, and that if you are making your
Speaker 2: own toys, then you're essentially a monster. At least that's
Speaker 2: Sid rules and Toy Story one. They change that a
Speaker 2: little bit when you get to like Toy Story.
Speaker 1: Four, that's very true. That's very true. Don't make your
Speaker 1: own buy ours consumerism.
Speaker 2: Here's another fun one. Almost every Disney villain is gay.
Speaker 2: Have you heard this one?
Speaker 1: No, I haven't told me about this.
Speaker 2: So if let's just say that, like all of the
Speaker 2: Disney female villains share whatever, they're lesbians. Just let's save
Speaker 2: it for conversation for later. You go through all of
Speaker 2: the male villains, they all follow this again like this aristocratic,
Speaker 2: but like a Yankee doodle, a dandy archetype. Every single
Speaker 2: one of these guys is a dandy. You've got Scar
Speaker 2: who basically talks with like a very specific accent and
Speaker 2: that sounds like a like a West, you know, Hollywood
Speaker 2: sort of gay. You've got the line that sucks his
Speaker 2: thumb constantly. You've got sher Khan who also has that
Speaker 2: exact same accent. Pretty much every single Captain hook Ursula
Speaker 2: is essentially a drag queen. Ja'afar has that exact same
Speaker 2: like very you know, has like a very specific way
Speaker 2: of talking, I would say, and then even Radinger of
Speaker 2: the Great Mouse Detective this very specific. And there's actually
Speaker 2: a documentary that I found this from the point of
Speaker 2: this out. It's a documentary called Do I Sound Gay?
Speaker 2: And it was about a guy that went away to
Speaker 2: college and came back after like three or four years,
Speaker 2: and some of his friends were like, why are you
Speaker 2: talking like that? And he realized that after he had
Speaker 2: gone away to school, he basically started talking gay because
Speaker 2: he fit in with like a gay crowd, and he
Speaker 2: like picked up on these different mannerisms and a certain
Speaker 2: way of talking, and he had he actually had to
Speaker 2: go to a speech therapist to unlearn all of this.
Speaker 2: And as he was doing that he's he had seen
Speaker 2: a few Disney movies and he was like, hey, every
Speaker 2: one of these these male Disney villains talk like they're gay,
Speaker 2: Like they they speak the way that I'm trying to unlearn.
Speaker 1: That would make sense, That would make sense. That and
Speaker 1: the reason why they're they're so evil, their clauset gay.
Speaker 2: Bro it gives the motivation. Here's okay, here's one of
Speaker 2: the I think I'm winding down here. So here's another
Speaker 2: really fun one is the Disney Pixar theory. So this
Speaker 2: isn't mine. This one gets floated around and improved by
Speaker 2: a bunch of people, but it's based on things that
Speaker 2: happen specifically in the Pixar movies. So in in Brave,
Speaker 2: and if you pay attention in Pixar, most Pixar movies
Speaker 2: are self referential. They will like refer to previous Pixar
Speaker 2: movies or future Pixar movies, so it kind of implies
Speaker 2: that they're all aware of each other. So in Brave,
Speaker 2: there's a scene in which they're talking to the old
Speaker 2: Witch and the witch has a truck. And the truck,
Speaker 2: I believe is one of the trucks you see in
Speaker 2: Toy Story or something inside of it, or it's in cars.
Speaker 2: It's a truck that's in cars. So Brave is seen
Speaker 2: as the very first, the very first movie in the
Speaker 2: Pixar universe, happening around the fourteenth century. Then you've got
Speaker 2: Toy Story and Finding Nemo, which are leading up to
Speaker 2: the demise of humans. They're kind of they took place
Speaker 2: in the time period that they seem to have taken place,
Speaker 2: which is like the nineteen nineties. Then you've got Ratitude.
Speaker 2: Then you have cars, And this is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite examples of how this goes off, is that Wally happens,
Speaker 2: and Wally is basically humans have polluted the Earth until
Speaker 2: it's no longer habitable and they have to go out
Speaker 2: in the outer space. And then Wally is in search
Speaker 2: of signs of life on the planet so that once
Speaker 2: they find the Earth can sustain life again, humans can return.
Speaker 2: That's a premise of Wally. While Wally is happening, pollution
Speaker 2: makes the Earth unlivable and humans start to create these
Speaker 2: like these shells, so the shells slowly become their cars.
Speaker 2: People start living in their cars to the point where
Speaker 2: they fuse with their cars. So the premise is that
Speaker 2: if you go into these Disney Pixar car movies, if
Speaker 2: you were to open up one of those doors, it
Speaker 2: would just be a fleshy mass of like nerves and
Speaker 2: cartilage and like brain matter, because the inside of that
Speaker 2: car is now the inside of a human body, and
Speaker 2: they have this like exoskeleton that looks like a car.
Speaker 2: And this was an evolutionary requirement to even continue living.
Speaker 2: And then you've got bugs life that comes after this,
Speaker 2: So very humans even survive that version of iterations, So
Speaker 2: then it becomes just bugs that survive, and the bugs
Speaker 2: become basically sentient. The same Rosicrucian spirit that give human
Speaker 2: that spark of life, it gets passed on to the
Speaker 2: bugs because the bugs are the next best thing. And
Speaker 2: then finally you've got the Monsters Inc. And Monsters University
Speaker 2: reality in which they live in the most distant future
Speaker 2: from now and they're actually their door system is trying
Speaker 2: to travel back into the past and fix things that
Speaker 2: went wrong.
Speaker 1: Who I really like Monsters, Monsters, Inc. And Monsters University.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I never even watched Wally, though I've
Speaker 1: heard Wally's good, but I've never never seen it.
Speaker 2: Wally was remarkable when it first came out and it
Speaker 2: got a lot of press because I think it's silent
Speaker 2: for the first twenty minutes or so, which is sort
Speaker 2: of out of character for a blockbuster children's three D
Speaker 2: movie that would just be completely silent. But it's essentially
Speaker 2: just Wally driving around and looking at stuff. But and
Speaker 2: while he is a deep dive in itself, man Wally
Speaker 2: is all about the Garden of Eden. That's why it's
Speaker 2: Eve comes down, and Eve is trying to lure humans
Speaker 2: away from the Garden of Eden. Like they have found
Speaker 2: a way to sustain themselves in space, maybe without any war,
Speaker 2: without anyone dying, there's no old people. They they have
Speaker 2: found a way to actually sustain forever. But Eve finds
Speaker 2: a way to lure them back to Earth again, where
Speaker 2: they're basically going to go back through that same doom cycle.
Speaker 2: This ignores the theory though, that everyone's eating each other
Speaker 2: on the spaceship in Wally, and that basically there's like
Speaker 2: a soilent green operation going on, and that's why you
Speaker 2: don't see old people.
Speaker 1: Supposedly, they're making a new Toy Story movie, and I
Speaker 1: think that it's going to be about technology.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be about tablets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now the toys have to fight back against technology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it's gonna be the friends they
Speaker 2: make along the way probably, And honestly, the only way
Speaker 2: that it can work out is that technology is going
Speaker 2: to have to become accepted as a new toy and
Speaker 2: the tablet and a natural evolution of things. Children are
Speaker 2: going to be taught that their tablet loves them back
Speaker 2: like this. That has been the premise of toy story
Speaker 2: since the very beginning. So there's no way that formula
Speaker 2: necessarily changes. It's going to be that technology is the
Speaker 2: new outsider, but it still loves whoever the human is,
Speaker 2: so therefore it's worthy of this Rosicruci spiritual evolution, like
Speaker 2: it's it's ready to be next in line.
Speaker 1: Dolphin or almost blue dolphin.
Speaker 2: One other quick one. Just look, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go through all these, but look into children's book authors
Speaker 2: that have connections to military intelligence. There's just like lots
Speaker 2: and lots and lots and lots of examples. Oh and
Speaker 2: here's a parting one a fever dream. So most people
Speaker 2: have heard of one hundred and one Dalmatians, right, you've
Speaker 2: heard of one hundred and one Dalmatians, and the premise
Speaker 2: of one hundred and one Dalmatians was something called the
Speaker 2: Twilight Bark, and this is when dogs would go out
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and they would howl
Speaker 2: into the darkness, and a dog on another rooftop would
Speaker 2: hear that and they would howl, and essentially they could
Speaker 2: communicate with each other and form this like mesh network
Speaker 2: of dog howls. So if I need to get a
Speaker 2: message four hundred miles away, I could do that through
Speaker 2: this twilight bark, right is That's kind of like the
Speaker 2: basic premise of this. So the sequel to one hundred
Speaker 2: and one Dalmatians, which was also written by the same author,
Speaker 2: Dodie Smith. This one never got a Disney sequel, it
Speaker 2: did get a live action make and like the early
Speaker 2: two thousands, it's a weird movie. But the sequel to
Speaker 2: one hundred and one Dalmatians is a book called The
Speaker 2: Starlight Barking, which is slightly different than the Twilight Bark.
Speaker 2: The Starlight Barking what happens is that a god from
Speaker 2: the serious Dog Star comes to Earth freezes humanity in
Speaker 2: a like cryogenic state essentially, and then dogs gained the
Speaker 2: ability to fly at supersonic speeds. They can control technology,
Speaker 2: and they can communicate with each other telepathically, and they
Speaker 2: collectively discuss with this dog god from the Serious Star
Speaker 2: System that says, hey, humans are ruining the Earth. There's
Speaker 2: wars going on, like everything is going horrible. All of
Speaker 2: you dogs can come back with me to the Serious
Speaker 2: Star System and you'll be treated as kings and gods
Speaker 2: just like I am. Or you can stay here and
Speaker 2: hang out with humans. And they he was like, you, guys,
Speaker 2: you know, think it over a little bit. Spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: The dogs decide they're going to stay here and help
Speaker 2: humans rather than go back to the Dog Star. But
Speaker 2: it's a wild story about these supersonic telepathic technology using dogs,
Speaker 2: like the dogs are literally flying around the streets and
Speaker 2: opening and closing garage doors with their minds because they
Speaker 2: can control technology. So just another weird fever dream that
Speaker 2: most people don't know about. Because this is the sequel
Speaker 2: that I wish Disney would make out of all the
Speaker 2: sequels they keep making over and over again. But the
Speaker 2: reason is because Dodie Smith, after she gets popular from
Speaker 2: the one hundred and one Dalmatians, she becomes a pacifist
Speaker 2: and a conscient, just objector, and she ends up leaving
Speaker 2: Europe in order to come to the States in order
Speaker 2: to like avoid something with her husband of getting like
Speaker 2: enlisted or anything. So she then becomes this like anti
Speaker 2: war political non person because if you were anti war
Speaker 2: back then you were kind of anti state as well.
Speaker 2: So she kind of lost all of her credibility, which
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons that you haven't heard about
Speaker 2: the Starlight barking, but you should have.
Speaker 1: That sounds incredible. That sounds way better than anything. One
Speaker 1: hundred and one dominationis, bro, it's a good sequel of
Speaker 1: going I don't know if I would believe that about
Speaker 1: dogs cats. If it was cats, I believe it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't. I think cats would have left us.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, oh, yeah, we're out of here. At
Speaker 2: least dog. I do believe dogs might be dumb enough
Speaker 2: to try and hang out and help us out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think cats are super smart. Bro, they know
Speaker 1: what's up. I think they got I think they know.
Speaker 1: I think cats know the secrets of the universe.
Speaker 2: That's like cats don't need to know. They don't really care,
Speaker 2: and that's that's the secret to the universe.
Speaker 1: I've seen those people on TikTok that are cat's psychics
Speaker 1: will read your cat's mind Uh.
Speaker 2: I believe that people pay for people to read their
Speaker 2: cat's minds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it's funny. It's interesting. It would be
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating to find out if they what they actually
Speaker 1: think about. You know, I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on inside of a dog, but there's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot going on inside of a cat for shut.
Speaker 2: You know, when when people say things like, oh, humans
Speaker 2: are the only animals that kill for sport or you know,
Speaker 2: the only animals that are cruel, like I immediately think
Speaker 2: of cats. I immediately think of I have a ced
Speaker 2: a cat, just kill a creature for the sheer fun
Speaker 2: of it. Didn't wasn't hunting, wasn't hungry, was just like
Speaker 2: I want to see that thing cry a little bit.
Speaker 1: Did you see that documentary on I think it was
Speaker 1: on Netflix. Don't f with Cats?
Speaker 2: No. Oh, it's about the guy that was like torturing
Speaker 2: a cat online and internet and.
Speaker 1: They found him Brown. I found him the internet. Did that? Dude?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, if we can if we can figure
Speaker 1: that out, then why are we not figuring out a
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the cat didn't have friends in high places,
Speaker 2: I gets or the guy hurting the cat didn't have
Speaker 2: friends in nine places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't hide. So what is your ultimate conclusion
Speaker 1: year about about Disney and what they're doing now?
Speaker 2: Yes, Disney teaches occultism to kids, but that's only the
Speaker 2: good Classic Disney, the New Disney. The only thing that
Speaker 2: they're doing is that proxy there. They have figured out
Speaker 2: that formula that if they can traumatize your kid and
Speaker 2: then they can save your kid using a cute, friendly, catchy,
Speaker 2: you know, little sidekick, then that little sidekick will be
Speaker 2: selling them French fries and cars for the rest of
Speaker 2: their entire life. And it's just a cheat code and
Speaker 2: that anyone can kind of fall forward. It's it's weaponized nostalgia.
Speaker 2: And they have figured out a way to do this.
Speaker 2: And not only have they figured had a way to
Speaker 2: do it, but it's now a global conglomerate that I
Speaker 2: would argue is becoming almost like an aggregre. Right, it's
Speaker 2: an aggregor, the same way that the FBI is an aggregor.
Speaker 2: That you could fire everyone in the FBI and the
Speaker 2: second you start high ring them again, no one has
Speaker 2: to teach the new guys like how to It's almost
Speaker 2: like a Stanford prison experiment, Like there's this eggrigor of
Speaker 2: a prison or like a warden master and a prisoner,
Speaker 2: and like those archetypes exist in the same way that
Speaker 2: like a Disney adult archetype exists now because Disney created
Speaker 2: that and they're going to foster that forever and they
Speaker 2: have more resources in time than me or you or
Speaker 2: even like ten thousand of our best friends. So don't
Speaker 2: don't fight it. And if you're gonna criticize Disney, criticize
Speaker 2: the newer stuff for not having occultism, not not criticizing
Speaker 2: Disney for being a cult, like that's the only good
Speaker 2: part of Disney.
Speaker 1: Disney put the occult stuff back in to the movies. Bro,
Speaker 1: give us more Illuminati. Ask about the Illuminati.
Speaker 2: But what we're talking about with scientology and even Mormonism
Speaker 2: that I that I always shoehorn in. But if they
Speaker 2: would just change their positioning, as like if Mormons were like, hey,
Speaker 2: you like you like masonry, Hey you like magic, you
Speaker 2: like a little bit of of Cray mysticism and magical
Speaker 2: talismans and magic underwear, Well we've got you know, the
Speaker 2: religion for you, And the same thing with scientology. It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to believe in a volcano full of
Speaker 2: bad feelings and thoughts that latch onto you and that
Speaker 2: you know, the whole Xenu story? Like if you lead
Speaker 2: with that, then I think that you might start attracting
Speaker 2: a new wave of people that aren't going to discover
Speaker 2: it later and then feel duped and feel like an
Speaker 2: idiot or be like, oh, this is what I signed
Speaker 2: up for. Why not get people that want to sign
Speaker 2: up for the thing? So I kind of feel the
Speaker 2: same about Disney, Like Disney should start courting more sort
Speaker 2: of occultism. They should. They should start making more Rosicrucian
Speaker 2: themed animations.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think this should have been
Speaker 1: Paranoid American things. So much for coming on, brother, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Very fascinating conversation. You've put a lot
Speaker 1: of work into decoding a lot of this stuff and
Speaker 1: finding a lot of it. Really appreciate it. Can you
Speaker 1: let people know where they can find you online?
Speaker 2: The only safe place is Paranoid American dot com. I've
Speaker 2: got all kinds of stuff. While I was working at Disney,
Speaker 2: I ended up believing to just start my own comic
Speaker 2: publishing company to do what Disney was teaching me to do,
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Speaker 2: been doing that for going on fifteen years now. So
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