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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Primates.

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<v Speaker 2>You found Primus Tracks. Congratulations. There are so many places

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<v Speaker 2>to find Primus Tracks. The podcast is probably the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I am doctor Josh bald I am one of the

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<v Speaker 2>hosts of Primus Tracks. He is coming to you from

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty ninth floor Primus Tracks Towers Encyclopedia. Frankie Beristein,

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<v Speaker 2>He's going fine. It's just it's going fine. While I

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<v Speaker 2>have great news for you. Frankie, your day is about

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<v Speaker 2>to improve dramatically because we are talking about mister Wright

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<v Speaker 2>from the Monolithophobos record as we continue our deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the first CLD effort and we have help. He's

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<v Speaker 2>fresh off the road from a brief tour of North America.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a base wizard that we call upon numerous

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<v Speaker 2>times for his insights. The Funky Diva himself, Ko Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to Primus Tracks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll add to that I was fresh before going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh tour did not freshen you up. You were pure

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<v Speaker 2>driven snow before and after. That is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>But thank you for the for the Funky Diva, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Title is yours just this, so tell us about the

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<v Speaker 2>tour you were just a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a very great weather infused journey through the US.

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<v Speaker 3>So went through I guess all seasons in these three weeks. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>some snow, some snow in uh in New York, rain

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<v Speaker 3>in Dallas, some humid, windy climates in Orlando. I was

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<v Speaker 3>also in the mid of a cartel uprising.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, I was worried about you when I heard

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was lots of things happened. Everyone's safe, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was a great overall tour. Is the composer for

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<v Speaker 3>the music Silent Hill, right, and I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 3>to be invited to be a bass player doing this

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<v Speaker 3>tour and fingers crossed Huron right. Yeah, So we have

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<v Speaker 3>we have talks of more dates coming in. We'll do

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<v Speaker 3>some Mexico City later in the year. We'll do some

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<v Speaker 3>other US Europe Asia dates later. So it'll be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be a nice trip, a nice journey through his music,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, we'll see what comes next. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>great in regards to wed all sold out dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Kay, I am, I am flabbergasted. So you you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>heavily on the road. You also record uh solo albums,

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<v Speaker 1>You also record with Parasit. You perform a ton of shows,

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<v Speaker 1>So when do you even engineer.

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<v Speaker 3>In between wow, in between all that. So it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a it's a juggling as as I call,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a juggling effort between family, work, music.

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<v Speaker 1>And all the the care that goes towards your facial

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<v Speaker 1>hair as well.

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<v Speaker 4>That takes care of itself. Actually it takes care of me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and I see Josh is.

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<v Speaker 3>On his way working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, I saw Chaos interview. One quote that stood out

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<v Speaker 1>for me particularly is that Chaos said if there were

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<v Speaker 1>a top one hundred bass players list from Mexico, he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even be there. And I was like, get the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of here, Like, technically speaking, I'm not the best bass player.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing, technically speaking, Because I think we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this, but when I when I was in the

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego Primus Masterdon tour, I did the VIP thing, right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're talking and someone asked them and in between

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<v Speaker 3>everything that Lass said, one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 3>noticed from his comments is he didn't see himself as

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<v Speaker 3>a very good bass player, right, And I think I

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<v Speaker 3>relate to that because I'm also a self learned bass player. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and we learned from our heroes listening emulating playing organically.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's how I feel like about my playing. I

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<v Speaker 3>love what I do. I like that I can basically

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<v Speaker 3>make those sounds inside my head a reality. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not as I'm not your what would you would? You

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<v Speaker 3>would say, a common, basic, normal bass player.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could equate that to an artist or

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<v Speaker 1>an illustrator who is very technically proficient, but they're only

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<v Speaker 1>good at doing what people ask them to do or

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<v Speaker 1>copying something, whereas some illustrators might not have the most

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<v Speaker 1>refined or the best technique ever, but their imagination is

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<v Speaker 1>mind blowing like less. Yeah, certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but now now I appreciate your comment, Frankie, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thank you for that. In the end, it's about

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<v Speaker 3>doing what we love, how we love doing it right.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we are, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's amend the list. Then let's put you at number

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<v Speaker 2>one oh one. Okay, easy, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>You made it here on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one of one, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great to have you back talking mister Wright today.

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<v Speaker 2>This is track four of the Mono Phobos record. It's

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<v Speaker 2>four minutes twenty one seconds music by Claypool Lennon. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics by Claypool. Less is on vocals, bass and melotron.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Lennon is on vocals, guitar and drums and Frankie.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling you know all about this tune.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Wright is a Lenom Delirium staple. It's always performed

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<v Speaker 1>live at their shows and you can tell it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of their favorites. They really enjoy playing it, mostly because,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas other tracks they tend to stay within the norm

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<v Speaker 1>of the record. With mister Writer, there's always that little

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<v Speaker 1>space for jamming and improvisation, which you can tell Les

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoys. I get some Mister Wright trivia here courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of a friend of the podcast, Matt Weinegar, who was

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<v Speaker 1>there for the creation of monolitha Phobos. Matt confirmed the

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<v Speaker 1>song was called Creeping in the early stages when it

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<v Speaker 1>was being demoed. He said that Les pretty much arrived

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<v Speaker 1>with the song finished and it was just a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of recording it. Now, this makes perfect sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>because it harks directly back to that comment Let's made

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<v Speaker 1>recently about how Sean tends to make these beautiful songs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then let's brings the words into the records. You

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<v Speaker 1>can totally tell this is a Lescliple song.

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<v Speaker 3>Agree, well, this could have this could have been in

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<v Speaker 3>any of his solo records.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly Yes. I asked Matt what his reaction was to

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics, and he said he was cracking up. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>as disturbing as the subject matter is, hearing less sing

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<v Speaker 1>the word p is hilarious. Here's something that I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was highlighted by Matt. They were having conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about Chuck Berry being posted for setting off cameras and

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be some of the inspiration for this song. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Jock Berry was accused of secretly videotaping women with cameras

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<v Speaker 1>installed in the restrooms of his restaurant, The Southern Air

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<v Speaker 1>in Missouri in the late nineteen eighties. Lawsuits and settlements

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety said that over two hundred women filed

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<v Speaker 1>actions against him allegend they were filmed using the restroom.

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<v Speaker 1>While the charges were never proven in court, Chuck settled

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<v Speaker 1>a class action lawsuit with fifty nine different women for

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<v Speaker 1>one point two million dollars plus legal fees.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so that's possibly the impetus for that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly the real life mister right. Yes, Matt said that

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<v Speaker 1>showplay drums along with Les playing bass live in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how this song was recorded. Then vocals and guitars

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<v Speaker 1>were overdubbed. He didn't remember if the song had metotron

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<v Speaker 1>or not, which it does now. Musically, I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons this song stands out well. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>the baseline, that galloping, amazing bassline, which is center and

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<v Speaker 1>front stage on the song. But some people have highlighted

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<v Speaker 1>that it's also very melodic and very very musical for

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<v Speaker 1>less standards, and some people even compare it to tax

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<v Speaker 1>Men by the Beatles. Another small piece of trivia for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and Ko, if you, if you would please open

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<v Speaker 1>your monolitha Phobos gatefold, you can see mister Wright right

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<v Speaker 1>there in the collash.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my monolitha Phobos gatefold.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if you can spot mister Wright. Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it this unsavory character right here?

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<v Speaker 1>That right there is mister right yeah, top middle on

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<v Speaker 1>your gatefold on the image page.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice. You sure it's not the guy in the

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<v Speaker 2>glasses holding that piece that makes it's really confused, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Not fair enough, you know, it could be that the

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<v Speaker 3>melodic element is brought in by the pairing Less with Sean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because if you strip it away again going

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<v Speaker 3>back to it, it is a clipbal song, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like he's singing more or less yeah than

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<v Speaker 3>any other Less clippal song. It's more the how the

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<v Speaker 3>Lennon Clappole pairing adds melody to to Less weird the music, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, That's exactly their dynamic. Less pushes Sean to be

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<v Speaker 1>more technically proficient, whereas Sean pushes Less to be more

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<v Speaker 1>musical and more melodic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we get a lot of elements in that

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<v Speaker 2>and of that in this tune, certainly. And it's only

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth track, like we've really seen.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and this this first album is very psychedelic. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but this song is the more reminiscent of.

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<v Speaker 2>Less work certainly. Yeah, Frankie, when you said the it

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<v Speaker 2>was essentially brought fully formed by Less, like that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me one bit, No, because this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those tunes where Less likes to tell the story of

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<v Speaker 2>Sean joining them on stage for the first few times

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<v Speaker 2>on that tour in twenty fifteen, and Sean saying what

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<v Speaker 2>do I do And let's say, let's make whale sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some whale sounds on this one, this one feeling

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<v Speaker 2>more fully formed by you know, Claypole bringing to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those where all right, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>fill in around the edges. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Sean decided to do with this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean from experience, I can tell you it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the same to compliment already complete song than to add

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<v Speaker 3>to it. So I can see where songs as Sean

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<v Speaker 3>probably brought brought in less had to exercise a different

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<v Speaker 3>way of working with someone because he's very much used

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<v Speaker 3>to bring it in everything right, right, I mean, Prime

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<v Speaker 3>is his his own stuff any other project, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he's basically he does most of the compositional work right,

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<v Speaker 3>So here there will be instances when he'll need to

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<v Speaker 3>add base, add vocals, harmonies to something that's already done,

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<v Speaker 3>which is for him different than what he's used to doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to ask you, Ko, I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine for him it's somewhat refreshing, and so for you

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<v Speaker 2>because you are there the heart and soul of so

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<v Speaker 2>many bands. When when when your band members or bandmates

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<v Speaker 2>are bringing bringing stuff in, or you're working with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>new and finding new pathways. How's that for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It exercises a different creative area from your brain. I

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<v Speaker 3>can see from less perspective. It basically takes him out

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<v Speaker 3>of his comfort zone and it'll exercise a different creative development,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think I'll appreciate. I use that as a

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<v Speaker 3>resource to not repeat myself, right, because otherwise I'll enter

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<v Speaker 3>into like a auto pilot. Yeah, we're working creatively. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you work different areas of how you can compose

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<v Speaker 3>or or trigger creativity, then it may catch you off guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. I love that way of saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>You catch yourself off guard because you're doing something you

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<v Speaker 3>And you react, you react to it differently. Now, this

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<v Speaker 3>is another Claypal quote from from this v P San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego Get Together. But someone asked me, how how do

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<v Speaker 3>you how do you do it to sound different primus

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<v Speaker 3>than you do with lenin than you do with everything

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And what he said, you don't talk the same way

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<v Speaker 3>to your mom than you do to your boss, and

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<v Speaker 3>you do to your girlfriend or your dog. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on who you're talking to dot. Conversation's different, the

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<v Speaker 3>way you talk, with the inflection in your voice, the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everything changes. So when I play with Lair

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<v Speaker 3>is different than when I played with Sean, than what

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<v Speaker 3>I played with each and every member from the different bands,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a conversation, so the conversation goes differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I'm Frankie's boss, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine how I talk to him. Well, you do

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<v Speaker 2>have that beautiful bass there and this this track is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the foundation of this track is that really

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<v Speaker 2>cool lick that that starts things off. I'll play it

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<v Speaker 2>from the record and then I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>your rendition of it, Ko and what you're hearing in

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<v Speaker 2>there besides tax Man of course, because everybody hears that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a nice opening right there.

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<v Speaker 3>From from a bass perspective, it's classic Claypoo song where

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<v Speaker 3>you have the same lick over Robert the whole song,

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<v Speaker 3>but he adds small things to spice it up. And

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<v Speaker 3>let's the vocals on the on the melody that he

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<v Speaker 3>goes through with with the lyrics guide the song, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you listen to it, it's basically the same

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<v Speaker 3>lick over and over again, even through verses and choruses.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a very complex bassline.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the tricky part on the bassline or the song?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the the metric element on it, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you see his his he starts off and then everything enters,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's kind of it's kind of crooked, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crooked and and and the bass like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of swerving through through the four four uh

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<v Speaker 3>time signature in the song, So it makes it it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those psychedelic pragy elements that that are

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<v Speaker 3>infused in the song. But it's really a four by

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<v Speaker 3>four song. Just the way it is approached to make

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it sound like it's more complex than it

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do some sneaking to make it sound and

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<v Speaker 2>feel off kilter, like coming in on the and as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to the.

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<v Speaker 3>One correct correct, but only he does it. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that that's what kind of gets you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit what happened there or or makes you

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<v Speaker 3>think that it is from a from a metric perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more crooked than it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a nice illusion just to like you shift

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<v Speaker 2>one thing and then everything feels like it's falling apart.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's that's that's the leck.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there in the box.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he does some.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some when you well you'll hear it life.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, which but it but it makes sense because

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<v Speaker 3>the song structure is so straightforward that it keeps way

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<v Speaker 3>to being able to kind of open it up because

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<v Speaker 3>it's all I mean, it's pretty basic and it's in

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<v Speaker 3>its structure, so it allows for that openness and I

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<v Speaker 3>can see and I can see that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. And then with the pattern there, it's it's largely

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<v Speaker 2>in a box. We've talked about. He keeps some of

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<v Speaker 2>his riffs in a box physical box. Uh. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looking you know, it looks a bit peditonic,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's the chromatic uh shift downwards. There's some

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<v Speaker 2>cool stuff going on there. But it's it's bouncy. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so reminiscent of tax Man, but it's its own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it sounds like a lot of fun to play,

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a lot of fun to play.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is a lot of fun. And now

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<v Speaker 3>he's singing on top of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the hard part, right, the hard part.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one of it's another of another, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those songs that have a chance to breathe new life.

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<v Speaker 1>On the second leg of the tour, when Liz finally

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<v Speaker 1>decided to start playing the pachyderm because on the record

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<v Speaker 1>and on the first leg he used to play mister

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<v Speaker 1>Wright on the resonator.

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<v Speaker 2>That would sound strange. I don't think I've heard any

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<v Speaker 2>of those first leg recordings of them playing any of

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<v Speaker 2>these tunes on the resonator with money Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's strange. If you listen to the original,

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<v Speaker 3>you can see the mid rangee timber from banking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth highlighting that Liz has introduced this song multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times on stage as a song absolutely despised by his daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yes, that's right. She says she really doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like this one for the lyrical content it is. It

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty creepy, and so that it was called creeping,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the word creeping is used numerous times through

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<v Speaker 2>the song. I mean, it's it's very much like the

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<v Speaker 2>that bass lick ko that the word creeping and that

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<v Speaker 2>bass lick are probably they occur so often in this

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<v Speaker 2>tune that now I cannot extricate them from one another.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a creeper, creeper riff. It's a creeping riff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just you can just see the guy setting

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<v Speaker 2>up the little cameras everywhere in his airbnber whatever in

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<v Speaker 2>his rental property. And with that, you know that he's

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<v Speaker 2>just jaunting through the house because with that bouncy bass

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<v Speaker 2>riff behind him going, he's setting up these cameras. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a pervert.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to mention that before this album dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>I did hear Creaking and the Genie because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just too curious about the collaboration. I couldn't help it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I heard that song many times. But then, yeh,

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<v Speaker 1>before the record, they also released Mister Wright as another

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<v Speaker 1>teaser for the album, and I remember hitting the plate

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<v Speaker 1>bottom and I heard just the opening bars of the

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<v Speaker 1>song and I stopped it because I thought, this is

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<v Speaker 1>too good. I need to I need to save this

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<v Speaker 1>for when the album is released so I can hear

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<v Speaker 1>everything back to back. I didn't want to spoil any

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<v Speaker 1>more tracks. So the opening grief of Mister wright was

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<v Speaker 1>so compelling I decided to wait for the record.

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<v Speaker 2>I am impressed that you demonstrated such restraint, Frankie, because

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<v Speaker 2>we know that if you are given a morsel, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>take the entire cookie. So you'll just you'll just gobble

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<v Speaker 2>up whatever's put in front of you. That's that's impressive

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<v Speaker 2>And and something so inviting as this lick that starts

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<v Speaker 2>the tune that Kao is just hammering away on in

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<v Speaker 2>the background.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I mean, I tell you something, the more I

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<v Speaker 3>play it, the more it flows, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh certainly, yeah, So you're getting some practicing while we

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<v Speaker 2>While we speak, I'm going to forward to about a

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<v Speaker 2>minute and a half into the tune because there it

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<v Speaker 2>wants it's going. I will say, like in the first

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<v Speaker 2>minute we get what we're going to get. There are

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<v Speaker 2>no dramatic shifts, and that's totally fine. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the all A songs and Kay you mentioned it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>the foundational lick. We get that for about four minutes

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<v Speaker 2>with some variations. It's I think it's solid enough to

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<v Speaker 2>carry carry through. But it is a pretty cool groove.

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<v Speaker 2>As the tune is well established, I'll just play a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more here weal sound Less was getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for that Tribute to Kings tour with that melodar.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to do something, not just because.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank, are you grabbing your melotron? I'm grabbing excellent, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hear it on the resonator. That sounds just

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<v Speaker 2>like that sounds much rounder. Yeah, fascinating, It does sound

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<v Speaker 2>more more like it. I almost prefer that. Now, bring

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<v Speaker 2>back the resonator, CLD, let's do it. That's that's fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>because we are so used, of course to the packet

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<v Speaker 2>term basis. Now it's been many years that he's been

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<v Speaker 2>exclusively using those with the resonator sprinkled in for Primus

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<v Speaker 2>shows and of course on due to Twang, but we

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't seen it since that first leg of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cold I know where you're going with that one. So

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<v Speaker 2>uh so, the musicality on display, it's really cool to

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<v Speaker 2>hear them because we're you know, Less kind of dominates

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<v Speaker 2>this tune, and he plays that melotron part too, and

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<v Speaker 2>so Sean's making those whale sounds pretty cool. Whale sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I just find it. I just find it really mind

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<v Speaker 1>blowing that Liz was playing that riff with his right

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<v Speaker 1>hand whilst playing the melotron with his left hand.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about, Sun, Come on now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I could see him do that Getty style.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, he could be hammering on that lick

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<v Speaker 2>and playing the melotron with his right hand. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's doable.

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<v Speaker 2>Workshop it a little bit and then make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>grab your your little keyboard and go crazy. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to hear. It's a fun groove. It certainly is

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<v Speaker 2>what carries us through four minutes, and certainly the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of space for the lyrics and the vocals.

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<v Speaker 2>They are on full display. Are I appreciate the chorus,

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<v Speaker 2>though I do like the repetition of creeping. The rhyme

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<v Speaker 2>scheme in our chorus is A B A C, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in our verses it's a B A A. So

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<v Speaker 2>like the first versus dance pants dance dance, which is

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<v Speaker 2>fun to say on its own, dance pants dance dance, sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>peep shower flower p glee. Yeah, it is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fun to hear less single word P. Matt Weininger, you

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<v Speaker 2>are correct, uh, And it's all about setting up the

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and watching people go about their business when they

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<v Speaker 2>think they have privacy. And he does call him, he

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<v Speaker 2>does say, good old find upstanding mister, right, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>upstanding pillar of community. Actually pervert. That's the headline. Creeping

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<v Speaker 2>through the night doing that stuff, peeping on people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a topic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a current topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely it is. It just goes right back to

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<v Speaker 2>those privacy concerns. Everybody has has those cameras everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>now the newest problem now is those damn smart glasses.

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<v Speaker 2>So people are wearing those all around and you do

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<v Speaker 2>not know when they're recording. Now. They are designed, they

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<v Speaker 2>are designed to have a little led light that's turned

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<v Speaker 2>on on the frame when the camera's activated. But of

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<v Speaker 2>co course people have already found workarounds to that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>little laquers that you can paint on there to cover

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<v Speaker 2>the light. So you have no idea if somebody's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>smart glasses and recording you anymore unintended consequence. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about you, guys, but when I enter an Airbnb rental,

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I do is look for cameras. No, nope, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so you got you guys, Just give him

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<v Speaker 2>the full show. Yeah, okay, what the hell? Hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>know I got a deal, throw the guy up both.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a ton to say about the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they tell the story pretty well. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sensory detail, like putting a twitch into his pants.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, The exhilarated by the peep calling the girl he

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<v Speaker 2>watches in the shower such a pretty little flower that

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<v Speaker 2>is disturbing. Uh. And the the trembling with glee, creeping

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<v Speaker 2>through the night to ease his lust full play. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>something's gone wrong with mister Right. And by the way,

420
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<v Speaker 2>that something's wrong with mister Wright. I don't want to

421
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 2>call a low hanging fruit. But I made the same

422
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>pun in like fourth grade.

423
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<v Speaker 3>I know I did, But you know what, I think

424
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that lines that basically, that's why it's called mister right.

425
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>It's yes, it's there to serve that Like, that's exactly

426
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>why it's there.

427
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 3>It serves it serves that line. Some of the best

428
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 3>lyrics from from Less are storytelling lyrics, you know those

429
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 3>the goal go and tell story about something. And this

430
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 3>is even though it is a somewhat peculiar and disturbing

431
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>story it is taking you through that piece of news,

432
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:54.119
<v Speaker 3>right right. Less knows how to tell story.

433
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and he does this. He does it really well here,

434
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and it is it's certainly creepy. I don't think it

435
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>else is the line, but it's creepy.

436
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.119
<v Speaker 1>And what is, at least, at least for me, what

437
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 1>is really spectacular about his songwriting skills is that Less

438
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>has brought forward so many tragic and sometimes on savory

439
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 1>characters like this one, but never loathsome. Even if what

440
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>mister Wright is doing in the narrative is completely despicable,

441
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you do not walk away from the track with at

442
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 1>least I don't walk away from it with negative feelings.

443
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I just find it really quirky and compelling without being

444
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 1>without being something straight out loathsome.

445
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's not a downer exactly. It's the music's too fun.

446
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 2>But certainly it gave I'm sure it gave me pause

447
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>when I first read these lyrics back in twenty sixteen,

448
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and and and certainly now I think, wow, this is

449
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>this is something else, but that you know, this reflects

450
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the world around us, and I think that's the most

451
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>disturbing element. I want to hear your summation of this

452
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>this track, and you're interested at ko because we have

453
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 2>the we have the lick that takes us through there's

454
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>some interesting musical moments. But what does it do for you?

455
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 3>What type of question is that you know? It's it's

456
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 3>it's I think only only Less can make something like

457
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<v Speaker 3>this work. I think that's does for me because it's

458
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's funny. Because I was, I was, I

459
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know if I should be talking about this, But

460
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<v Speaker 3>as we were recording some stuff, the topic of Primus

461
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Claypole's composed in arrangement was discussed with with in the studio,

462
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 3>with the person that I normally record and mix with,

463
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and and he listened and he said, that's Primus, right,

464
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, yes, it's not Primus, but I mean

465
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>it's Less. He's like, I knew it because I mean

466
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>all the song is basically the same lick that was.

467
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<v Speaker 3>That was his comment, and I was. I started thinking

468
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 3>about it. And when you when you were used to

469
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 3>listening to this music, you oversee that, you oversee some

470
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 3>details because it's it's part of the adventure, right. But

471
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 3>then I started thinking about songs and I said, yes, yes, yes,

472
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<v Speaker 3>then think about this. How hard it is for a

473
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 3>common and I put it on this in less warning

474
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 3>for the common folk to kind of come about songs

475
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.960
<v Speaker 3>that work in its simplest form, you know, yea, because

476
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 3>it's one brief to rule them all. You know, it's

477
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>one song, one driff, and and and and you can

478
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 3>walk through the catalog how many great songs he's done

479
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 3>with one lick? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's not an

480
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 3>easy task, you know. And this this one is a

481
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 3>great song. It works, that the the all in the

482
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 3>song in the song works, but the lick stands for itself.

483
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, even the the full loop of the of

484
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>the lick is it's good enough. You know.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you make a great point, like it's it would

486
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.039
<v Speaker 2>be a massive challenge for anybody to come up with

487
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>a lick and a melody that they can carry for

488
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<v Speaker 2>four minutes and and keep people's interest.

489
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and and that makes you think of how

490
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<v Speaker 3>many great rifts and licks let's just come up with, yeah,

491
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 3>that stand on their own just being looked for several minutes,

492
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 3>and they work. Yeah, because they're they're great drifts.

493
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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. And that's that would work as

494
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I would say, that would function as an excellent counter

495
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>argument to anybody who listens to it and says it's

496
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>just the same thing. It's the same thing over and

497
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<v Speaker 2>over again. Of course it's more subjective.

498
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 3>And think about this like and I think, like, I mean,

499
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about mister right right now, but my name

500
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>is mud Oh certainly.

501
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their biggest song.

502
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 3>It's one drift.

503
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's that lick for four and a half

504
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>minutes and it works, and it works. Yeah, it's incredible.

505
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>But but you can't forget the ghost notes just.

506
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Leads some reinterpretation of the riff within the song. But

507
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I but again, I mean, it takes a lot of

508
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>genius to make that work, and make it work in

509
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>a song that stands the test of time.

510
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, that makes perfect I think.

511
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that's why it works. And also because it's

512
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 3>a great riff. Let's not forget that.

513
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Certainly, Well, it didn't make sense, but Ko fixed it.

514
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>You passed the task. Congratulations, that was your Kobashi maru.

515
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<v Speaker 3>And you caught me like in the in the post

516
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 3>tour foggy mindset, so I kind of had to do

517
00:35:49.639 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>some work there. A.

518
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we've talked about it enough, so it's time for

519
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<v Speaker 2>Primemates Takes. If you want your take on the track

520
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>up for discussion, read right here on the podcast. All

521
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you have to do is go to Patreon dot com.

522
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Ford's Lash, Primus tracks and the universal constant over there

523
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>is Primeates Takes amongst all the tears of support for

524
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<v Speaker 2>Josh and Frankie. So let's hear from our pals a guy.

525
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Frankie says, I don't think there's a He's a Hello guy.

526
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>He says, I don't think there's a week song on

527
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the album. But if I would rank them, mister Wright

528
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>might come in last. With its position between two of

529
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 2>my album's favorites, and with more evolvement in the lyrics

530
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>rather than the music, it doesn't really leave a real

531
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>mark like so many of the other songs do. And

532
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of course it is another one of the uplifting, catchy

533
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Claypoolian songs that hide underneath a dark and disturbing story.

534
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Anthony del preet go Bills says, this tune always sounded

535
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>like a bastardized tax man to me. Joined the club, Anthony,

536
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and and he says, besides Duchess, I'm not sure that

537
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>less it has ever done so much with a single repetitive

538
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 2>riff minus the mini low end call down. He doesn't there,

539
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that's so he's comparing it to Duchess.

540
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Now, it could be that as he was working on

541
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 3>this rift he did borrow some inspiration from tax men.

542
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 3>It's quite just because he was working with John.

543
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>There there had to be that subliminal connection without without.

544
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Question, someone someone will have to ask less that's right,

545
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 3>But I think I think at this time we can

546
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 3>just assume that that was the case. Yeah, Oh, certainly

547
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 3>they were probably jamming. I mean, if you're if you're

548
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 3>playing with them, you might as well just spice up

549
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 3>some goodles stuff and probably jamming one thing took them

550
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 3>to another. And he was like, I like this as

551
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 3>their dies tax men, so I'll I'll bring it in.

552
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be a nice litmus test. See if Sean

553
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 2>is willing to put up with it. And of course

554
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 2>they've covered tomorrow never knows. The CLD has many a

555
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 2>time our pal Mickey Waters says atmospheric song about horrible

556
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and desperate men and the depths they'll go just to

557
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 2>see some women at their most vulnerable, or to try

558
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to get a little action. Obviously, it's a great bassline

559
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>lyrics are repetitive. I'm guessing just to really emphasize the point.

560
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Pirona says, I typically skip over this one. The

561
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>main group is fine, but it isn't interesting enough to

562
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 2>be the whole song in my opinion. The lyrics are creepy,

563
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>but they make me laugh. Similarly, Ryan Rashan says one

564
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 2>of the catchiest and creepiest songs I've ever heard. Eric

565
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in Australia says, we've reached the peak of the record already.

566
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>This is by far my favorite track. Absolutely ripping bass

567
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 2>riff and brilliant lyrical flow, repetitive yet ingenius. I do

568
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 2>enjoy Lennon elements on the record, but perhaps Chiner's almost

569
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 2>non vocal contributions elevate this one. I do love the

570
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>two of them. With the creeping, creeping, creeping part that

571
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Sean contributes to. It's great.

572
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Brooks breaks him down.

573
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Theme song by Kao Gonzalez. Brooks is about to take

574
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>our jobs, as he says, the baseline and the A

575
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>part groove so hard, there's no need for a B part.

576
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

577
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>That's it, Let's go home, that's it. Wrap it up yeps.

578
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, Edwin Allen Richards, the fourth our Landed Gentry says,

579
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this song makes me deeply uncomfortable. It's got a great

580
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 2>groove with the subject matter, just gets under my skin.

581
00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Tends to be a track I'll skip more often than not.

582
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<v Speaker 3>But you know, if you see a common topic here

583
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<v Speaker 3>is I guess for most of the people that either

584
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 3>it's not a top song or they prefer not to

585
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 3>go through it is because of the lyrical content.

586
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it does justice to the creep Yes, yes, certainly, Yeah, absolutely.

587
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<v Speaker 2>We have one more, John Shreeve. There are a lot

588
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<v Speaker 2>of ones on this one, a lot of opinions. We'll

589
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>wrap it up with John Shreeve, who says the inspiration

590
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>for the lyrics is something that I probably don't need

591
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>to know as a proud girl dad. The music songs

592
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>lyrics comes off as evil carnival music, which only heightens

593
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the ick factor of the character of mister Wright. That's

594
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<v Speaker 2>the primates takes. Thank you for your takes.

595
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<v Speaker 1>Art will not always be loved. So I think if

596
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<v Speaker 1>a piece if a piece of art is making people

597
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>feel uncomfortable and ikey, it is serving a purpose.

598
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 2>So just doing its job.

599
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Art will be great as long as it generates our reaction,

600
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>whether it be positive or negative. If it leaves you

601
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 1>feeling indifferent, then it was not well executed at all.

602
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 1>So I think this is a testament to mister Wright

603
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>being very compelling, and not necessarily because it will be

604
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a beloved song, but because it does generate quite a

605
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 1>reaction in people.

606
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, and it's not transgressive in any way,

607
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 2>but it's certainly there's enough there to elicit an emotional response,

608
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's not a bad thing. It's time for Frankie's

609
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>favorite part of the show, Live cuts, a GM vehicle,

610
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Live cuts from the GEM vehicle, Live cuts.

611
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>What's going on here?

612
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what's going on here? To somebody voice

613
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 2>of Tim sayan, it's the Ko Gonzales remix. We have

614
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>a few live cuts of mister Wright, all of them,

615
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>by the way, between five minutes and fifty seconds and

616
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<v Speaker 2>six minutes, so they really dialed it in. Frankie, that's

617
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>very interesting that they're all very close. The precision here

618
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>is impressive.

619
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 1>It's a whale oiled machine.

620
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>We have clearly not talking about this whale oil machine.

621
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah oil. I was gonna say, well, Oiled Machine. You're

622
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>not talking about this podcast. Frankie did provide three live

623
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 2>cuts today. The first is from Columbus, Ohio. Is this

624
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the Heart of the Sunrise show again?

625
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So we're going to hear show.

626
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So what's gonna happen is we're gonna end up hearing

627
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>every live Sorry, we're gonna end up hearing every song

628
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that was played at this show except for Heart of

629
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the Sunrise because it's not on any of the albums.

630
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, all right, So this is Columbus, Ohio twenty sixteen.

631
00:42:51.159 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's hear some, mister Wright. It's a nice groove, it

632
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>sounds good, it's a nice recording to Let's move it

633
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>up to the keyboard part. Remember this is not less

634
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>on bass and keyboards simultaneously. Who's the keyboardist on this one?

635
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Frankie, Uh, Pete Dungle.

636
00:43:46.679 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's hear what Pete does? Oh yeah, this is that's

637
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 2>less pushing Sean to play more lead. Yeah, I sounded solo.

638
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>So are you here? What are you hearing in this chaos?

639
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>A pretty pretty close to the record for you right now?

640
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 3>It is more laid back, more laid back. Right here,

641
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 3>it's more laid back he's he's doing more more of

642
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 3>the he's gonna playing it more in the backbeat, and

643
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a be more syncopation. That's what I hear.

644
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Let's let's see what you hear in this part,

645
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>because it is labeled bass solo. Nice. I appreciate that

646
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you can hear that once and replicate it right away.

647
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing.

648
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 3>It is a very clipless baseball, That's what I can.

649
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Say very much. So, yeah, sounded great. We really do

650
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 2>need you to just to show up sometime and play

651
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 2>in the background for the entire episode. You don't have

652
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 2>to do that now, but it would be thrilling one

653
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>of these times. Ah man. Next one is sweet Water Festival,

654
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 2>or as Frankie labeled its sweet Watter sweet Water. All right,

655
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>this is the uh Atlanta, Georgia twenty nineteen and so.

656
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 1>We South of Reality.

657
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, South of Reality tour. So we had talked

658
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 2>about I think with Cricket. We we got a twenty

659
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen cut of that and it just sounded so good

660
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 2>difference because they had had it in hand for so long.

661
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So I'm curious to hear what this one's going to

662
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>sound like.

663
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 3>What I can tell that's not the messinater.

664
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:44.760
<v Speaker 1>No, so it's it's back.

665
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 3>It's yes, it sounds thinner, okay, sounds good. It sounds

666
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 3>like lass. But I mean I can I can see

667
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 3>the the change there.

668
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Ah yeah, m letting her rip a bit there? Nice?

669
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So is that the routine, Frankie, there's a guitar solo,

670
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 2>bass solo and yes, okay, that's what elongates the tune.

671
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 1>All right, And and there there there will always be

672
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>as well a part where it's just drums and vocals.

673
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Just drums and vocals. Yes, is that near the end?

674
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think it's after the bass solo. Actually interesting,

675
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>if you want to let it play, we might find out.

676
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't okay, nothing against mister Wright, of course. Where

677
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 2>can people find these? By the way, these available on

678
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 2>YouTube and o their places.

679
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, these were webcasts back in the days. As I

680
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 1>told you, we were spoiled. We were spoiled with the

681
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Lyrium because they did broadcast professionally several of their at

682
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>least all the festivals, and some hidlining shows here and there.

683
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 1>That's why we have these treasure trove of professional recordings.

684
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And they do sound fantastic.

685
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Well.

686
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Our final life cut is from Voodoo Art Festival, or,

687
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 2>as Frankie labeled it, the Voodoo you do? You do?

688
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 2>What happened to you? Man?

689
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I used to be so serious when I sent you

690
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 1>the Times down truck.

691
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you were professional, Yes, And now now I have

692
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to sift through what whatever your code is to find

693
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the true hidden meetings. Let's hear the Let's hear some

694
00:49:47.440 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 2>guitar solo here at this one.

695
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what do you think, Ko, would you jam with

696
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:36.159
<v Speaker 5>Sean Lennon or what?

697
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I would definitely do that. But one thing, I was

698
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 3>actually referencing Claypol's conversation. Yeah topic, this is Shunned reacting

699
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 3>to Less Claypole drift.

700
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

701
00:50:54.400 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>So he's having a conversation with Less, which makes it,

702
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 3>in his own way, reminiscent of something we're familiar with.

703
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense?

704
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It does, Yeah, because it's there playing off one another,

705
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and we've we've heard whoever plays with Less do that.

706
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 2>This was you know, this is twenty sixteen, but even

707
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>for fifteen years prior to that, that's what we're hearing

708
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>in uh Froe Brigade fancy band, so even in Primus too, yees.

709
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 3>So he allows his guitar players to just be waky,

710
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, be noisy and wacky and the melodic in

711
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 3>a very non complacive way. You know. So it's but

712
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 3>and he was a great soul, you know he was.

713
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 3>I like, you know, the different the difference between the

714
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 3>other players you normally jam s with is uh the

715
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 3>tonal qualities?

716
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Was that? What was that a false effect he was

717
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 1>using for the soul?

718
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 3>He has some some some fuss, He has some Coursey

719
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 3>like effects going on there as well. But it was

720
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the it's it's it's it's in between the phrasing and

721
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 3>and it's not as as dissonant as probably Larry Wood

722
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>or as not. The melody is not as uh as

723
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 3>broken as it would be. Uh frog Brigade, Yeah.

724
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that makes sense.

725
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 3>It is it is more along the lines of but

726
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 3>but again it is it is what it is.

727
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.159
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, that's that's really incredible. I mean,

728
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:06.719
<v Speaker 1>that's why it was so interesting to see Larry playing

729
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 1>frog Brigade and Sausage Tunes on the first claypol Gold incarnation,

730
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>because the songs are never gonna be the same, and

731
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes them fascinating. I Mean, for example, you

732
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 1>have Sean Lennon asking Liz during the rehearsals of the

733
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>fal tour of the Frog Brigade, he was like, how

734
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the hell do I play a buckethead solo? Unless I

735
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know? Man, you figure it out. And the same

736
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.679
<v Speaker 1>happens with riddles. I mean, nobody will ever be able

737
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to replicate that to guitar line. So what we hear

738
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:50.039
<v Speaker 1>are other guitar players takes on that guitar line. And

739
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes this song really interesting, certainly.

740
00:53:53.960 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 3>The interpretation of a different voice through through those those

741
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 3>licks and those rifts, and those songs, and and and

742
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:12.360
<v Speaker 3>the different approaches in in soloing and melodies and the conversation.

743
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 3>The conversational aspect that we were talking.

744
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>About, Well, I have a feeling the lyrical protagonist or

745
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>antagonist is having a conversation with his lawyer right now,

746
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>mister Wright. That ish so I I will safely say this,

747
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 2>mister Wright, Uh, call your lawyer for real, because you've

748
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 2>been tracked and uh they're they're come, They're closing in

749
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 2>on you. Next time, Frankie, I'm going to hand you

750
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.360
<v Speaker 2>this oddly shaped stick and I want you to throw it.

751
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll do a thorough search on Google.

752
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Cho Gonzalez, thank you so much for joining us yet again.

753
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so it's always fantastic speaking with you.

754
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 3>It's my pleasure. And some things I would like to

755
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 3>share with you before I go, please. So I was

756
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.639
<v Speaker 3>at Nam and I got a chance to play for you.

757
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Were you in Vietnam?

758
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 2>This is Frankie's dad joke, you can ignore him.

759
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 3>The other the other name. And I went to the

760
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 3>package in booth talk to Megan. She's very she's great.

761
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 3>And I got a chance to play this leek.

762
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

763
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 3>And I got a chance to see the Walnut base

764
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Imperial will Nut Walnut that has been toured Bye bye

765
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Less their gracements. They are great instruments, and.

766
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to purchase one.

767
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully I will, but uh, I've tried. And but some

768
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 3>things that I found peculiar is that apparently Less likes

769
00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:59.840
<v Speaker 3>his basis with very low action.

770
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I think he's mentioned that.

771
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Which is very interesting. And now the other thing I

772
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 3>was going to share is I was just in New

773
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 3>York and I went to meet the one and only

774
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Carl Thompson.

775
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I wanted to ask you about that because that

776
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>photo of you and Carl.

777
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 3>You wanted to ask me, Yes, you are already you

778
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:24.440
<v Speaker 3>were ready to let me go.

779
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I was, I was gonna throw to you because I

780
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 2>was going to ask some questions.

781
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Then I won't say anything until you asked me. Now,

782
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 3>I was going to meet him a year and a

783
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 3>half ago, but my New York crip got scrapped, and

784
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.000
<v Speaker 3>so with with the tour we were doing two days

785
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>in New York. I said, I have to go meet Carl.

786
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 3>So we made it happen. So I went to his house.

787
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 3>It was or the world that I think, how can

788
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.039
<v Speaker 3>I because it's one of those for me particularly, and

789
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that's when I posted the picture. I put that in there.

790
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 3>This is this was one of those bucket list moments

791
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 3>for me, you know, because I knew I had to

792
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:19.559
<v Speaker 3>personally meet Carl and thank him for the inspiration his

793
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 3>instruments basically brought to me directly and indirectly through less

794
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 3>but it's talking to him. I could definitely, I mean

795
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 3>I could. I could understand a lot of things on

796
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 3>his on his art. He is very much in line

797
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 3>with this what he belives in and he leaves by it,

798
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and it basically translates into what he does and how he.

799
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Does it, you know, So he's the genuine article.

800
00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 3>He's a true artist.

801
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what you're It's exactly impression. It's exactly the impression

802
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 1>that I got when I watched that Jason Momoa episode.

803
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 3>And he and he has a lot of stories to tell,

804
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of stories. He is overall a great man

805
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 3>and I and I truly appreciated and I told him

806
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 3>that I appreciate his time. Is just welcoming me into

807
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 3>his house finally meeting him in person. We talked before,

808
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 3>but this was the first time we met in person.

809
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 3>And as I was talking to him and I'll send

810
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 3>you a picture, and as I was talking to it,

811
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:43.119
<v Speaker 3>in front of us, there was a gold record sent

812
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:47.639
<v Speaker 3>to him by Les Claypole when they released Tales from

813
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 3>the Punch Bowl awesome nice addressed addressed to Carl and

814
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 3>the comment that Calls said regarding that is he got

815
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 3>that in the mail and he said, he called Less,

816
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 3>I think and he said, why am I getting this?

817
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.639
<v Speaker 3>And he said, I'm not on the record, and Less

818
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.519
<v Speaker 3>said you are, Oh yeah, you are all all over

819
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the record. You know. Basically that's all As Claypole playing

820
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:17.679
<v Speaker 3>with Carl Thompson.

821
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that record, the fred at six, the Rainbow,

822
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.559
<v Speaker 2>the four string. Absolutely, that's that's a beautiful sentiment.

823
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 3>It is so it speaks of the man itself, of

824
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 3>his art, his focus, he's a way of living, never

825
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 3>compromising his art for anything. So that's that's a great

826
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 3>testament to his to his work.

827
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, thank you for sharing Killer. That was brilliant.

828
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 3>I am.

829
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited for you that you met Carl.

830
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Magical things happen every time we travel to New York.

831
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just you two.

832
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 3>It was me.

833
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I just get mon man. Thank you again Kao by

834
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the way, and for taking the time, because you have

835
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 2>so many demands on your time and it astonishes me

836
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.159
<v Speaker 2>that you hang with us.

837
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 3>So thanks, no, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more than happy to finally made it happen. I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to we're trying to do this as

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the road, but logistics there were out

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<v Speaker 3>of my control.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're lucky that they announced a new album. It

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<v Speaker 2>gave us an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>You were too busy. Trash and CULTI rooms, we get.

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<v Speaker 2>It, yes, and eating only green M and ms yea man.

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<v Speaker 3>Eating I think that the eating indeed was a poor activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's favorite uh primates, primatrons, people of Earth, people of Phobos,

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<v Speaker 2>people of Atalahara. Thank you all so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next time when when it's no Jase.

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<v Speaker 2>Also later days, Willa Mace
