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Speaker 4: we are a lot pot. This is William Ramsey. Welcome
Speaker 4: to William Ramsey Investigates on Today Show up two very
Speaker 4: special guests. They're gonna kind of co host the world,
Speaker 4: going to just have a kind of brain, you know,
Speaker 4: to drain our brain of all this information about John
Speaker 4: Banne Ramsey, at least on my show. You know, Sean
Speaker 4: mccannt done so many with thirty shows now or something
Speaker 4: like that. We're going to actually I'll be talking to
Speaker 4: him tomorrow morning. If he shows up, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but we're trying to do it tomorrow morning. For episode
Speaker 4: seven of The Manchurian Candidate Fiction to Fact, we're going
Speaker 4: to go into George Coben Esterbrooks, a very important person,
Speaker 4: often overlooked. I say that his documents that were released
Speaker 4: by Black Vault FOI are really some of the most
Speaker 4: important documents that really inform the sixties in a way
Speaker 4: that even other authors haven't done, because it shows that
Speaker 4: Hoover knows a lot of this secret knowledge and it
Speaker 4: was never divulged to the public, even to authors and
Speaker 4: things like that. They may have sought pieces of it,
Speaker 4: but he's involved in so many of these assassinations. Hoover's
Speaker 4: right behind the scenes there, and the FBI is involved
Speaker 4: behind the scenes of the Kirk assassination. So this a
Speaker 4: trend continues. But like I said, Sean and I have
Speaker 4: done like thirty shows, and then also Julia of Cosmic
Speaker 4: Peach is here and we've done i think three or
Speaker 4: four or five shows, and we've been talking and I've
Speaker 4: been talking to Sean about this John. But hey, there's
Speaker 4: a lot to this story. It happened in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4: It's very delicate. These are our opinions or other people's
Speaker 4: opinions of what happened. There's really been no court trial,
Speaker 4: so you can't say these people have been convicted of anything.
Speaker 4: They haven't been convicted, they haven't been tried. It didn't
Speaker 4: even get to that point. There was a lot of
Speaker 4: work done at in Colorado, but it never got to
Speaker 4: the point where they were indicted. If I remember, maybe
Speaker 4: my memory is not serving me correct. But there's a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff I've researched today. There's I've read through
Speaker 4: the book by Cyril Weckt, who I had on my
Speaker 4: show when he was among us. He was a great
Speaker 4: man and he's unfortunately passed away. He did a lot
Speaker 4: of work on the Smiley Faced killings on some of
Speaker 4: these cases too, as an independent medical examiner, and he
Speaker 4: wrote who killed John Binney? And he had some very
Speaker 4: opinionated views or conclusions that he made in that book
Speaker 4: that we're going to go through. But Julia says she's
Speaker 4: got a lot of research, so we're going to go
Speaker 4: through this. But this is we don't like, we're not
Speaker 4: saying these people committed the crime there. But there's a
Speaker 4: lot of questions that need to be answered about the
Speaker 4: John Binney to this day, and it happened in this
Speaker 4: environment of like child porn pages. I've read through the
Speaker 4: singular book today where he claims that they're part of
Speaker 4: this whole pageant pedophile and there's a lot of these
Speaker 4: people who were involved in the pageants who got busted
Speaker 4: for child porn see Sam is what they call it now,
Speaker 4: So this is kind of going to be a disturbing show,
Speaker 4: kind of a Halloween show too, and might get really graphic.
Speaker 4: Like even her passing was very graphic, and she was
Speaker 4: clearly sexualized wearing makeup at six years old, five years old,
Speaker 4: And I remember, I haven't seen the videos, but like
Speaker 4: those past legents are weird. They're almost like strict Eases
Speaker 4: or something like that, like Lamb strict Jesus. But anyway,
Speaker 4: welcoming back to the show, Julia and Shaun, So welcome
Speaker 4: back to William Ramsay Inveust.
Speaker 3: Kids. Well, I just want to say hello Julia, and
Speaker 3: I'm bringing my own Wake the Dead audience here to
Speaker 3: this conversation to listen in because this is really wonderful
Speaker 3: knowledge to learn. And I've been digging down this myself
Speaker 3: because of my never ending looking looking into Eyes Wide
Speaker 3: Shut by Stanley Kubrick and the fact that the Helena
Speaker 3: gets stolen at the end, and there's this cult, the
Speaker 3: sex cult, the groom's children into you know, the Leley
Speaker 3: Sviski knew about the Ermine cloak, and she's you know,
Speaker 3: she's so she knows about the rituals. So it's all
Speaker 3: one big melting pot. And I guess like the stew
Speaker 3: is brewing, and so I'd like to know as much
Speaker 3: information as possible that you can bring about John Manay
Speaker 3: is totally related to this.
Speaker 4: And also Christmas, remember too, So this happened at after
Speaker 4: Christmas party, so it's some kind of weird after party
Speaker 4: that they were out to.
Speaker 3: And children Mass is just after Christmas and they do
Speaker 3: sacrifices and children Mass too, like there's a lot of
Speaker 3: occult holidays that are just around that time. But anyway,
Speaker 3: please welcome Julia, sorry say hello please.
Speaker 5: Then yeah, thanks for having me, William and Sean. I
Speaker 5: actually covered this topic as a Christmas special if you will,
Speaker 5: the last two years. So last year and the year
Speaker 5: before I talked about what happened to her kind of
Speaker 5: on the anniversary of her death. And I really didn't
Speaker 5: know too much about her other than like the mainstream
Speaker 5: narrative until I read Program to Kill. And that's a
Speaker 5: book that I've mentioned several several several times by David McGowan.
Speaker 5: He has a lot of stuff in that book. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's like a treasure trow. They're serial killers, pedophilia,
Speaker 5: you know, Mark Dutreaux is in that book, and Mick
Speaker 5: Martin is in that book, and John Benet is in
Speaker 5: that book. And so I read that chapter and I
Speaker 5: was astounded by the amount of information that's never actually
Speaker 5: given to the mainstream public. And I have some notes
Speaker 5: that I want to go over just from this book. Obviously,
Speaker 5: this is Dave's opinion based off of research that he's done.
Speaker 5: I expanded on it a little bit with my own research.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it is my opinion, and it
Speaker 5: is some speculation, but I like the parents and or
Speaker 5: the brother have already been convicted in the public opinion,
Speaker 5: so you know that goes without being said. Everybody's kind
Speaker 5: of you know, got their own opinion on what they
Speaker 5: think happened. So all we can do is go based
Speaker 5: on my favorite thing, forensics. That's a big one because
Speaker 5: forensics don't usually lie. They're you know, they're cut and dry.
Speaker 5: It is what it is. And then what we know
Speaker 5: about pop culture and the occult and how it all
Speaker 5: goes in together, because like you said, I think that
Speaker 5: there are breadcrumbs in the movie Eyes Wide Shut as
Speaker 5: to a pedophile ring operating maybe even in or around Boulder,
Speaker 5: and it's been going on for a long time. And
Speaker 5: I don't think John Bennet is actually a special case.
Speaker 5: She's special to us, but I think there have been many, many,
Speaker 5: many many John Bennet's that we will just never know about.
Speaker 5: But yeah, thanks guys for having me. I'm excited to
Speaker 5: get into this one.
Speaker 4: There were I was reading today, there were deaths surrounding
Speaker 4: this case. So John Benet wasn't vacuum. There was another guy,
Speaker 4: Egsat or something like that who died or who was
Speaker 4: under investigate investigation, and then he mysteriously ends up dead.
Speaker 4: I forgot. Let me see if I can find him
Speaker 4: in my notes. But yeah, and it's connected to like
Speaker 4: this broader network I've done these network shows, or like
Speaker 4: it's really something else.
Speaker 5: Well, are you guys familiar with the Wonderland.
Speaker 4: Raids a little bit? Can you go into the Orchid
Speaker 4: in Wonderland Raids?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, So the Wonderland Raids are actually mentioned in
Speaker 5: Program to Kill as well. They were a it was
Speaker 5: like a task force that was uncovering pedophile networks and
Speaker 5: they called it the Wonderland Raids because, as most of
Speaker 5: you know, what's the guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland's name.
Speaker 6: I always forgot Charles Dodgson, Yeah, Charles Dodgson or Carroll
Speaker 6: is his alias or what his suitor name, but.
Speaker 5: He uh obviously was a prolific pedophile. And so they
Speaker 5: named this this task force the Wonderland Raids because they
Speaker 5: were going after pedophiles. And there were quite a few
Speaker 5: instances where photographs of John Bennet had been found on
Speaker 5: people's computer and John Benet's father did own Access Graphics
Speaker 5: and was involved in who knows what with that, but
Speaker 5: it just seems like an odd coincidence that photos of
Speaker 5: her were circulating on pedophiles computers and he had gotten
Speaker 5: like a really big bonus that year that was the
Speaker 5: same amount as what was mentioned in the ransom note,
Speaker 5: almost down to the dollar. A lot of weird coincidences
Speaker 5: with that. When they searched the Ramsey home, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of video making equipment, almost like black magic cameras,
Speaker 5: like studio grade movie making equipment, So you could speculate
Speaker 5: and put two and two together that there may have
Speaker 5: been something more going on with that, but I don't know.
Speaker 5: The Wonderland Raids in and of themselves were crazy because
Speaker 5: they found this network was not just isolated to one area,
Speaker 5: but it was all over the US, dozens and dozens
Speaker 5: and dozen. It was kind of like a podcast that
Speaker 5: I listened to called The Clown and the Candy Man,
Speaker 5: and it was about the pedophile network that John Vayne
Speaker 5: Gacy was working out of. And it was in Dallas,
Speaker 5: it was in you know, Chicago. It was in all
Speaker 5: these major cities and then communicated with each other and
Speaker 5: they exchanged information through like some weird pedo network. They
Speaker 5: even had like a like a comic book or like
Speaker 5: a thing that you could order that would just show
Speaker 5: up at your house. It was like Little Boys Weekly
Speaker 5: or something like that. And it just, I mean, the
Speaker 5: depravity is deep with this case, but I don't think
Speaker 5: it's an isolated case for sure.
Speaker 3: So can let's just frame so John Banat Ramsey had
Speaker 3: to dress up like a showgirl with like feathers and
Speaker 3: all the makeup and dance in front of leering individuals,
Speaker 3: whether they be the parents or other people that just
Speaker 3: happened to pay it for a ticket to go see
Speaker 3: or whatever. So we know that anywhere there's children, there
Speaker 3: are pedophiles there that are predating on them, you know,
Speaker 3: especially if they're dressed up like sex pots. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean Tom Hanks is in the SNL skit they're
Speaker 3: making fun of how yeah, you know, and we know
Speaker 3: about him, don't we.
Speaker 4: It's also they made fun of it in South Park too.
Speaker 4: They did a sequence of child pageants and basically every
Speaker 4: you know, oh is.
Speaker 5: That the one with Michael Jackson, they.
Speaker 3: Actually like panned to the parents.
Speaker 5: And right, yeah, well, you know the thing is that's
Speaker 5: weird about the pageants, and you know, this is not
Speaker 5: my opinion, but I did verify this. Listen to a
Speaker 5: podcast a while back where so someone made the claim
Speaker 5: that none, not a one like Naarry a pageant that
Speaker 5: John Bennet supposedly won, it actually exists. There's no record
Speaker 5: of those pageants ever existing. There's no other competitors from
Speaker 5: any other years of those pageants ever existing. There's no
Speaker 5: h you can google the pageants that she supposedly won.
Speaker 5: There's no previous years of little girls winning. There's no
Speaker 5: years after that of little girls winning. These pageants do
Speaker 5: not exist. Little Miss Charlavoy, little Miss Sunshine Peach, whatever,
Speaker 5: these pageants do not exist. And I actually because I
Speaker 5: could not find any record of these pageants existing. I
Speaker 5: googled a pageant that I was in as a little girl,
Speaker 5: because my mom was not a peto or anything, but
Speaker 5: you know, the pageants come around. You got a Southern
Speaker 5: mom and she puts you in this shit. I had
Speaker 5: no choice. I was like six years old. Anyways, It's
Speaker 5: called little Miss grape Bet and it's from my area
Speaker 5: of Ohio is known for like grapes and you know,
Speaker 5: wine and stuff like that, so it was like a
Speaker 5: little Miss grape Bet pageant. There is record of years
Speaker 5: of the girls who won before me, after me, the
Speaker 5: year I was in it. There's pictures, there's websites. It's
Speaker 5: easily available if you want the information on that pageant.
Speaker 5: None narry a one pageant that John Benet was supposedly
Speaker 5: the winner of. There is no record of these pageants
Speaker 5: ever existing outside of John Benet.
Speaker 4: So were they just making these pageants up as like.
Speaker 5: They're private pageants they're pride?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, victory is preset or something like that. It's
Speaker 4: almost like a fake thing.
Speaker 5: It's the so it's she's like the Queen bee of
Speaker 5: and and that's you know, usually would they pick you,
Speaker 5: you end up dying in some weird sacrificial way at
Speaker 5: the end of it. But you know, it's like she's
Speaker 5: in all these private pageants and then we see what
Speaker 5: happened to her. It's like an auction almost like you
Speaker 5: are auctioning off the prized pig at the fair or
Speaker 5: something like that. It's yeah, so I think that it's
Speaker 5: made to make them feel special. I think that it's
Speaker 5: made to kind of parade about the prize pig. And
Speaker 5: then you know, obviously not saying for sure this is
Speaker 5: what happened, but we know she's dead now and it
Speaker 5: was not like a peaceful uh you know, she didn't
Speaker 5: have an asthma attack, that she was brutalized. So just
Speaker 5: going off of the information we have in the fact
Speaker 5: that these pageants don't exist outside of her, you can
Speaker 5: only imagine what's really going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's dark. According to Grock, there was a pageant
Speaker 4: from ninety three to ninety six and that was it.
Speaker 4: It says like that, this says that Miss Little Miss
Speaker 4: Charlotte Boy pageant was a child bredy competition. Nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4: Seven year old Jessica nagel One, who was held over
Speaker 4: the fourth of July, went weekend with aligning with summer
Speaker 4: festivities in the area, such as the Charlotte wah Venetian
Speaker 4: Festival small Field. There were only three participants.
Speaker 5: Three, okay, all right?
Speaker 4: John Benet Ramsey won the title in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 5: And then there was no year after that.
Speaker 4: Following John Beanne's murder nineteen ninety six, the pageant distributed
Speaker 4: to something. There's no evidence that it continues today. There's
Speaker 4: no evidence after her death. And she died in what
Speaker 4: ninety six.
Speaker 3: Maybe she spoiled it by dying.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: So. She won in ninety five and died a year later. Crazy.
Speaker 5: There was also a really odd amount of pageants won
Speaker 5: by John Maine. I'm going to google it really quick.
Speaker 5: How many pageants did John Maney.
Speaker 3: Win on the books? Like on the record?
Speaker 5: Yeah, how many on the books?
Speaker 3: How many beyond that? We don't know? Like like Bryce
Speaker 3: Taylor was sold to h to Bob Hope and Henry
Speaker 3: Kissinger together. She was displayed on a stage with feathers
Speaker 3: like a show girl. And she asked her handler what
Speaker 3: she's doing there, and he said, we are. You are
Speaker 3: the Cadillac of mind control. Basically, you are Cadillac and
Speaker 3: we're showing you off, and then that was when she
Speaker 3: got sold. She was like the little dance and it's
Speaker 3: it's an auction, just like Julius.
Speaker 5: Well, I have another story about that too. So according
Speaker 5: to Google, there is no definitive total number of pageants
Speaker 5: she entered, which is odd no definitive number, right, but
Speaker 5: they have little Miss Royal Miss, Little Miss Charlavoy, Little
Speaker 5: Miss Colorado, Colorado State All Star Kids, Cover Girl, and
Speaker 5: National Tiny Miss Beauty, and I googled several of these
Speaker 5: and I couldn't really find anything on them. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like that person that I heard on a podcast
Speaker 5: talking about there's not a lot of information on them,
Speaker 5: like they never existed except for I guess that one
Speaker 5: for a couple of years and something.
Speaker 4: It's like a flash in the pan, like yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, she's supposed to be six when she dies.
Speaker 5: How did she a pageant a year? Right? When did?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 5: When would she have started? So right here? That's one, two,
Speaker 5: three four five right here. So once she starts in
Speaker 5: utero winning these pageants, the pageants season is once a year.
Speaker 5: It's not like she could have won, Like really think
Speaker 5: about that one, two, three four five listed right here,
Speaker 5: she's only six years old. When do they start letting
Speaker 5: them in pageants? So when they're one? Like, when how
Speaker 5: was she able to win all of these? It doesn't
Speaker 5: make sense actually for the timeline. So another thing is,
Speaker 5: and you may have heard of this story. Are you
Speaker 5: familiar with Heather or' rourke little girl?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately?
Speaker 5: So, have you heard the story of what probably happened
Speaker 5: to her death?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: But they made her come out and do a dance, right,
Speaker 5: They made her do like a little hula girl dance
Speaker 5: and dress in a bikini, and the there was a
Speaker 5: lot of like producers and directors there supposedly, right, I
Speaker 5: wasn't there, But this is the accusation. And so John
Speaker 5: Benet Heather or rourke. It's not an isolated event. And
Speaker 5: obviously you were talking about someone, you know, Sean, who
Speaker 5: was auctioned off kind of in this way as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean it's the nameless, faceless little girls
Speaker 5: that make my stomach sick because it could literally be
Speaker 5: your daughter, your sister, your niece, your whoever. I don't
Speaker 5: even know if we would know the name John Beney
Speaker 5: outside of her murder. So it's like they become infamous
Speaker 5: in death. Right, good point. But how many little girls
Speaker 5: do we not know about?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Good point.
Speaker 3: And that's why so many of those victims are out
Speaker 3: there saying the truth of so that everybody can remember
Speaker 3: the nameless ones that burned alive or fed to the
Speaker 3: dogs or whatever else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, one hundred William. And you know, before I
Speaker 5: had my own baby, I used to talk about this
Speaker 5: stuff and I would, you know, empathize, and I would
Speaker 5: say how horrible it would be that this would happen
Speaker 5: to children, and it would make my stomach sick, especially
Speaker 5: reading about the mc martin stuff. I wanted to throw up.
Speaker 5: But now that I have my own baby, I cannot
Speaker 5: believe that there are actually like Satanic cults that would
Speaker 5: offer their own children into something like this. It makes
Speaker 5: me want to literally throw up and cry at the
Speaker 5: same time, Like it's unfathomable to me that they consider
Speaker 5: it an honor to almost raise their kids into this
Speaker 5: and then it's like eyes wide shut at the end.
Speaker 5: It's like an honor for them to raise their kid
Speaker 5: into this and then kind of like auction them off
Speaker 5: to the highest bidder, because that's the privilege of being
Speaker 5: a part of this cult. Is like you know what's coming.
Speaker 5: It's like they're raised for the slaughter almost and it
Speaker 5: is absolutely stomach churning. It's sickening, just like.
Speaker 3: The Canaanites and the Phoenicians killing their own children, feeding
Speaker 3: them with the moloc fire, you know, putting a mask
Speaker 3: on the on the kids, and the crying mother there
Speaker 3: with a smiley face.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It's really deep and dark and super dark.
Speaker 4: And that's what's said.
Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, William.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like, for people who don't know,
Speaker 4: there's a weird connection of the Ramsey family to Oak Island,
Speaker 4: and Charlot Boy is at the very north, so like
Speaker 4: when the summer comes, Michigan isn't cold anymore, so people
Speaker 4: go to the north in summer, so they would go,
Speaker 4: but Oak Island is like ten miles away. And that
Speaker 4: is a very well known case, very well studied, connected
Speaker 4: to the Oak Island murders that happened in Detroit back
Speaker 4: when Detroit was a functioning city and super dark, like
Speaker 4: elite pedophile networks right like, and people who went to
Speaker 4: one guy fled to the Netherlands and never got caught.
Speaker 4: And that then Ramsey, Bennett Ramsey, that's John Bannay's dad.
Speaker 4: His dad was involved in like putting together the this
Speaker 4: is already verified. He's putting together the landing place or whatever,
Speaker 4: the airport for Oak Island and Charlotte Boy is like
Speaker 4: right there. So actually, my understanding, according to the information
Speaker 4: I got today is after the death of John Bennet,
Speaker 4: the dad and the mom went to Charlotte Boy. Like
Speaker 4: that's why they went. They went right now. He death
Speaker 4: in December.
Speaker 5: It's like I said, it's it's like an honor for
Speaker 5: them too. Because Patsy was in the pageant system her
Speaker 5: whole life. People talked about her being in the pageant
Speaker 5: system coming from like some old Virginia money, some you know,
Speaker 5: rich people, fud time crazy, you know, satanic cults, underground
Speaker 5: network thing probably, but it's speculating, speculating.
Speaker 4: Do you think that she was part of the abuse system?
Speaker 4: Do you think the mother?
Speaker 5: I absolutely do, I absolutely do.
Speaker 3: My opinion that she was like auctioned off and he
Speaker 3: was the purchaser like he was. It was a gift.
Speaker 3: She was a gift to him.
Speaker 5: Yes, to make a breeding.
Speaker 4: Situation, that's super much. That's a second wife too, right,
Speaker 4: second wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a strange imagination. It's just my imagination.
Speaker 5: Well, think about this, Okay, think about this. This is
Speaker 5: my hypothesis. This is Julia talking, not William, not Sean.
Speaker 5: This is my opinion. I own this. This is my hypothesis.
Speaker 5: There was a Christmas party, Christmas Eve party thrown at
Speaker 5: one of the elite of Moulder, Colorado Society. His name
Speaker 5: is Fleet White. Okay, So Patsy and John take their
Speaker 5: two children to this party, this Christmas Eve party, and
Speaker 5: at some point a nine to one to one call
Speaker 5: was placed. Okay, they won't say what the nine one
Speaker 5: one call was about. They won't eve. Nobody even wants
Speaker 5: to admit there was a nine one one call. There
Speaker 5: is no freaking information on the nine to one one
Speaker 5: call from Christmas Eve. Then supposedly they wake up on
Speaker 5: Christmas morning after that party and they are like, oh,
Speaker 5: our daughter is missing, YadA YadA, fake ransom note. In
Speaker 5: my opinion, three pages long, doesn't make any sense. Specy
Speaker 5: relatively could have been in Patsy's handwriting with a pad
Speaker 5: and a pencil found from the pat the Ramsey Zone
Speaker 5: writing desk. Whatever my speculation.
Speaker 3: Brush from their desk to it was all.
Speaker 5: Stuff from inside the house. Because that's what serial killers do,
Speaker 5: is they find stuff around the house and then they
Speaker 5: and then they study the mom's handwriting and they try
Speaker 5: to make it look like, yeah, that's because that's what's
Speaker 5: you know, when you're breaking into somebody's house, you have
Speaker 5: time to do all that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: Whatever, So don't look there.
Speaker 5: My speculation, my hypothesis, is that she actually died at
Speaker 5: the Christmas Eve party. They brought her body back home
Speaker 5: that night, staged the note what they were going to
Speaker 5: say on the nine to one one call, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5: They may not have actually killed her, but I do
Speaker 5: believe that she succumbed on Christmas Eve night at the
Speaker 5: Christmas Eve party with the of Boulder Society and attendance.
Speaker 5: There could have been a big wig there, that was
Speaker 5: the prize catch. It could have been an accident. Things
Speaker 5: got a little too out at hand. They accidentally killed her,
Speaker 5: as makes a lot of sense. Why the sloppy cover
Speaker 5: job with the body being found in the basement after
Speaker 5: the and the first person allowed to come to the
Speaker 5: Ramsays home before the police even got there was Fleet White,
Speaker 5: the guy who hosted the Christmas party the night before.
Speaker 5: Why is he there? And why is he allowed in
Speaker 5: the house. It's a crime scene.
Speaker 3: Yes, didn't they invite him and other people to come
Speaker 3: touch the body. They all touched her body, so.
Speaker 4: That's even more creepy. That's so creepy.
Speaker 3: So it's acknowledged for why my DNA is on her body.
Speaker 4: Sorry, it's so creepy. And they they've admitted that the
Speaker 4: police bungled you know, that's what they charmed. It bungled
Speaker 4: the domestic by polluting the crime scene. Then never they
Speaker 4: should have shut off the whole place. And they were like,
Speaker 4: like this is a textbook example bungling a crime scene.
Speaker 4: Like letting the dad find the body is crazy.
Speaker 5: They let fleet White and the dad search the home
Speaker 5: for the body. Fleet White and the dad touched the
Speaker 5: body before there was any forensics done. They moved the
Speaker 5: body from the original location it was found. And they
Speaker 5: after they found the body, they allowed John Ramsey to
Speaker 5: leave the home for upwards of two hours to run
Speaker 5: errands quote unquote, because that's what I would be thinking about,
Speaker 5: is returning the fucking blockbuster films, right, Like, they just
Speaker 5: found my daughter's corpse in the basement, Like, what are
Speaker 5: you talking about? I have to run errands. They let
Speaker 5: him leave the home for two hours after the discovery
Speaker 5: of the body for reasons unknown. He said he was
Speaker 5: running errands. Weird time to grow grocery shopping on Christmas
Speaker 5: Day right after your dead daughter's found in the basement brutalized.
Speaker 5: But okay, do you John, Things are not adding up.
Speaker 5: Things do not make sense for a grieving father. It
Speaker 5: just seems to me that there was most likely a
Speaker 5: sloppy covered job to cover an accidental death. Now, there
Speaker 5: were stun gun marks found on the body. There were
Speaker 5: stun gun marks on her body in previous photographs of her,
Speaker 5: so it's not like that was a one time occurrence.
Speaker 5: It suggests that there had been prolonged abuse. She also
Speaker 5: was a bedwetter that also is a hallmark sign of
Speaker 5: sexual abuse. There was blood found in the underwear, and
Speaker 5: William correct me if if I'm wrong. I think it
Speaker 5: was maybe Sarah Weck said that her vaginal opening was
Speaker 5: two times the size it should be for a girl
Speaker 5: her age, and that there was epithelial erosion in her vaginas.
Speaker 5: So you tell me, because they say that there was
Speaker 5: nothing going on, that somebody just broke in the house,
Speaker 5: and then hit her body in the basement. There is
Speaker 5: way more to this story. Forensics will tell you that
Speaker 5: the nine to one to one call placed the night
Speaker 5: before should tell you that the father leaving the home.
Speaker 5: These are questions that never get answered. It's like, what
Speaker 5: really is going on here? It's not cut and dry.
Speaker 4: Sarah what said, based upon his medical examination, somebody would
Speaker 4: have been arrested. I think that's what he said, Like, yep,
Speaker 4: it was. There was evidence of a crime there, So
Speaker 4: why isn't this happening? And yeah, it's super dark. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is an incredibly dark story, like the connections of
Speaker 4: all the stuff and like this underworld and moving around
Speaker 4: and flying around and Oak Island and the fact that
Speaker 4: he's from like Detroit, and there's like people missing in Detroit,
Speaker 4: Like there were young boys and girls and kids who died.
Speaker 4: They never I don't think they ever caught anybody. The
Speaker 4: guy who died around the John Beney thing was two
Speaker 4: months later, a guy by the name of Michael Helgoth
Speaker 4: shot himself the day after District Attorney Alex Hunter announced
Speaker 4: they were going to closing in on the killer. Like
Speaker 4: it was so weird too, Like there were always.
Speaker 5: Now, Alex Hunter is a whole nother story because he
Speaker 5: later worked with the Ramseys after he said there was
Speaker 5: not enough evidence to prosecute them and that he didn't
Speaker 5: want to take it to trial. He later ended up
Speaker 5: working for the Ramseys. Okay, a lot of people in
Speaker 5: this case ended up working for the Ramses later on. Okay,
Speaker 5: that is a whole other problem with this case is
Speaker 5: the guy who kept saying there was no evidence to
Speaker 5: take the Ramseys to trial, he later ended up working
Speaker 5: for them. So that's if that's not a conflict of interest,
Speaker 5: I don't know what is. Because you can't put your
Speaker 5: neck out for these people and then go work for
Speaker 5: them and then not have people put two and two together.
Speaker 5: That that's weird. You know a lot of people in
Speaker 5: this case it actually were involved with the Ramseys in
Speaker 5: some way. But what else bothers Me and William Sean
Speaker 5: google it. The Ramseys never received a death certificate for
Speaker 5: John Beney. Never received an official death certificate for John Benay.
Speaker 5: They even went on a talk show kind of like
Speaker 5: Ellen or something for the nineties, I can't remember what
Speaker 5: it was, and they said on the talk show, we
Speaker 5: have never received a death certificate for our daughter. Why
Speaker 5: is that? Maybe they didn't want to put the official
Speaker 5: cause of death out there in the open for everybody
Speaker 5: to see. Maybe because John Benay no longer belonged to
Speaker 5: them at that point, somebody else got the death certificate.
Speaker 5: You know, it's there's a lot of questions that go
Speaker 5: unanswered here. Why aren't the parents receiving a death certificate
Speaker 5: if it was just somebody broke in the house, choked
Speaker 5: her out and then hit her body in the basement.
Speaker 3: And why would they say it on TV?
Speaker 5: Yeah? They they literally went on tea. So another problem
Speaker 5: is that I watched a documentary on Amazon where some
Speaker 5: researchers came together and they said that there is a
Speaker 5: lot of evidence this is not my opinion that the
Speaker 5: brother Burke had something to do with her murder. And
Speaker 5: you know when you watch a documentary with like the
Speaker 5: agenda's already been set that all the evidence is going
Speaker 5: to point to that direction by the end of it,
Speaker 5: you're like, oh, I guess I could see where that
Speaker 5: could be plausible. In my opinion, I don't think he
Speaker 5: had anything to do with it. I actually watched him
Speaker 5: on Doctor Phil as an adult talking about it. I
Speaker 5: think his mind has been erased. I think he's been
Speaker 5: part of the program all along. He looked like he
Speaker 5: was heavily medicated all throughout the like the fiasco. Anytime
Speaker 5: he was seen, you know, photographs taken of him or
Speaker 5: videos taken of him, he looked doped up, almost like
Speaker 5: they were pacifying him. So I think, you know, he
Speaker 5: probably saw what happened to her and they had to
Speaker 5: like clear his mind so he had no memory of it.
Speaker 5: There is even an interview where somebody is talking to
Speaker 5: him about John Benay and he said, I had a
Speaker 5: sister like he like he was. He didn't even remember
Speaker 5: he had a sister, likes it's crazy, guys, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So that's like he's got all there. He was probably
Speaker 3: built that way. Like that's traumatic, uh, trauma based mind control.
Speaker 3: One of the ways of doing their business is to
Speaker 3: do electric electrocution with the stun gun and they put
Speaker 3: it right on the base of their spine and it
Speaker 3: like goes up to their brain and like wild. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it all, but it's
Speaker 3: like it's it's part of it, just like the e
Speaker 3: ct that William and I were talking about with the
Speaker 3: electro of convulsive therapy, and that's you know, that's featured
Speaker 3: in one flow with Cougar's nest, where you know where
Speaker 3: to control the person so that they don't act out anymore,
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's it. There's a lot
Speaker 3: more science to just making you numb. It's uh we
Speaker 3: I even spoke to a non omus uh this is
Speaker 3: pen name, I guess. He was with Jerry Marzinski on
Speaker 3: my show and he talked about how E c T
Speaker 3: actually did quiet the voices of schizophrenic and it did help.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, it's great, and I was like, wow, really,
Speaker 3: But it's also a torture for children in trauma based
Speaker 3: my control, also known as satanic ritual abuse. Same old,
Speaker 3: same story we've been talking about forever.
Speaker 5: Well, you know the thing about I recently did a
Speaker 5: four part series about mental illness on my show and
Speaker 5: we talked about the electro whatever you know when they zapya,
Speaker 5: And we were also talking about lobotomies and how it's
Speaker 5: frowned upon now obviously to stick an ice pick in
Speaker 5: somebody's brain. But I feel like they have just they
Speaker 5: continue to lebottomize people. But I feel like they just
Speaker 5: chemically lobottomize people. I feel like there's a concerted effort
Speaker 5: with pharmaceuticals to shut down your brain and specific parts
Speaker 5: of the brain, so it's like a chemically induced lobotomy.
Speaker 5: I think that they just get slick about the ways
Speaker 5: that they that they're doing stuff, and that's that's like
Speaker 5: the same thing with this case. It's like they there
Speaker 5: are still this happened in what nineteen ninety six? Right
Speaker 5: since nineteen ninety six, it's like, oh well, that was
Speaker 5: a really bad thing that happened to that little girl,
Speaker 5: and it's like, dude, it happens literally every day. They
Speaker 5: just get more slick about how they do it, and
Speaker 5: now we don't know about it as much because it
Speaker 5: happens to be that they move in phases. Right. The
Speaker 5: sixties was like rolling out the weird serial killer program,
Speaker 5: you know, with the Charles Mansons and the you know
Speaker 5: XYZ and the program to killishness, and then it was like, okay,
Speaker 5: we're done with that. Now it's cults. Now it's a
Speaker 5: school shooters. Now it's you know this. They move in
Speaker 5: like weird phases. I think John Manet is like one
Speaker 5: of those things, like, oh well, let's not do that again. Look,
Speaker 5: we caused a public outrage. We got to get smarter
Speaker 5: about how we do this now. But there have been
Speaker 5: many a jambinet since then.
Speaker 3: Don't you think that the jomin a thing being so
Speaker 3: public was just a whoops? Its public?
Speaker 5: I think it was this horribly sloppy cover job and
Speaker 5: people saw a bunch of holes in this story, right,
Speaker 5: and it haunts people.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it bubbled up into the public by accident,
Speaker 3: and it was supposed to be occulted and stay underground,
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 5: I think so, I think that they would have loved
Speaker 5: for it to fly under the radar. None of their
Speaker 5: stories even matched up. This is not this is something
Speaker 5: anybody can go look for. The Ramsey said on an
Speaker 5: interview that the police never put crime scene tape up.
Speaker 5: They said on an interview, the police never put crime
Speaker 5: scene tape up. And every picture you google of the
Speaker 5: house has fucking crime scene tape up. It's like they
Speaker 5: don't even know what the cover story is. It's like
Speaker 5: somebody else came up with it and they're still learning
Speaker 5: what it is like.
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's just like nine to eleven. It's
Speaker 3: all a bunch of crap that they throw at us,
Speaker 3: like jet fuel, melted steel. Sure, okay, we believe it
Speaker 3: just because you're told to believe it, Okay.
Speaker 5: Right, But they found the passports is the thing, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. It's like they can't get there.
Speaker 3: It's so real.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, it melt. Everybody melted, and it was
Speaker 5: a horrible explosion. But we found this passport here in
Speaker 5: the rubble. It's like dust, Like everything's dust except for
Speaker 5: this fucking passport right here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So another thing that's interesting to me that I bring
Speaker 5: up often and so does my husband is the Franklin scandal.
Speaker 5: And I'm you guys are both familiar with the Franklin scandal,
Speaker 5: so you would not believe the amount of people I
Speaker 5: talked to about that who have never heard about it
Speaker 5: have no clue, I mean, and it to me, in
Speaker 5: my opinion, it's one of the craziest scandals of all time.
Speaker 5: I mean, with Paul Banasi and John DeCamp and like
Speaker 5: that whole network of petos and somebody who gets mentioned
Speaker 5: in both the John Bennet and Franklin scandal is Hunter S. Thompson.
Speaker 4: Really talk about the how was how was well? Hunter
Speaker 4: lived in Colorado, right right.
Speaker 5: Yeah he did. So I want to read you a
Speaker 5: quote from Hunter S. Thompson that's going to blow your
Speaker 5: freaking brain hole.
Speaker 4: I think I might beat you to it. I might
Speaker 4: know this one. This is the one where he admits
Speaker 4: the Satanic.
Speaker 5: This one's even better, William all right, this is straight
Speaker 5: from the horse's mouth, okay, Hunter S Thompson, all right.
Speaker 5: Autumn is always a time of fear and greed and
Speaker 5: hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active
Speaker 5: on old people and fleece the week and helpless. They
Speaker 5: want to lay in enough cash to whether the known
Speaker 5: horrors of January and February. Da da da da da.
Speaker 5: There is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of
Speaker 5: school children in the football months. Preteens of both sexes
Speaker 5: are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs
Speaker 5: of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts
Speaker 5: to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.
Speaker 5: So that's from Hunter.
Speaker 4: That I remember.
Speaker 3: There's one word he says that running for government too, That's.
Speaker 4: Right, the freak Party. There's another quote, super dark too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because he starts off talking about like, oh,
Speaker 5: the debt collectors and old people and da da da,
Speaker 5: and then at the end he's talking about pedophiles abducting
Speaker 5: kids off the street and giving them to each other
Speaker 5: as as Christmas gifts. No less, uh John Benet anyone?
Speaker 5: Literally he said they give them to each other as
Speaker 5: Christmas gifts. I think that's what John Benet was, but
Speaker 5: they took it a little too far. Whoopsie killed her.
Speaker 3: They were just touring her out and she just happened
Speaker 3: to die.
Speaker 4: The reason why we don't know exactly what happened spec
Speaker 4: there's a lot of speculation here, so these are all opinions.
Speaker 5: Something happened to where they called nine to one one
Speaker 5: that night, which makes me hypothesize it was an accident.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were freaking out and then it just happens.
Speaker 3: Who because it's natural to want to call for help,
Speaker 3: like my baby.
Speaker 5: The details of that call have never been made public.
Speaker 5: Also why I think something is afoot there.
Speaker 3: And we all know that there are dirty cops out
Speaker 3: there that take money, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, here's here's the other thing that I
Speaker 4: didn't know about this case. But I've done a lot
Speaker 4: of research, like way too much research into the West
Speaker 4: Memphis Street. And the thing that makes my hair stand
Speaker 4: up in the back of my head is that John
Speaker 4: Douglas worked for the family, work for the Benet family,
Speaker 4: and his work on the West Memphis treet is so dark,
Speaker 4: it's so bad. Like I wrote my own article on it.
Speaker 4: It's about him, like he there's something wrong with them,
Speaker 4: like I don't know, like he's not operating in an
Speaker 4: honest fashion. In my opinion, Douglasism, and you have to
Speaker 4: read it like he turned people. He turned people's opinions
Speaker 4: about what happened to the West Memphistry. That's like one
Speaker 4: of the great mysteries of the West Memphistry, maybe John
Speaker 4: Biney too, is that there's so many people colluding and
Speaker 4: coordinating stories and things like that that the average person
Speaker 4: just cannot grasp. But there's that behind the curtain, collusion
Speaker 4: and coordination. But West Memphistry, that's what's so confusing, is
Speaker 4: like these people are all saying this thing. How could
Speaker 4: we think that any of them are lying? Right? That's
Speaker 4: the great thing of mystery. That's how they actually, you know,
Speaker 4: propagandized the public till ninety ninety five percent that think
Speaker 4: that they were convicted of crime they didn't weren't involved in, right,
Speaker 4: Like I'm almost like when I said, hey, these guys
Speaker 4: are still convicts, Like we know the case. It's different
Speaker 4: than John Beney West Memphis. Three were actually prosecuted and
Speaker 4: then they were tried and convicted again in twenty eleven,
Speaker 4: like and they signed on the dotted line with the
Speaker 4: best attorneys. So it's a very different case than John
Speaker 4: Beney with there's a lot of bakeries and speculation and
Speaker 4: opinions and like I don't think the kid was involved,
Speaker 4: Burke kid, but there's something else really strange about it.
Speaker 4: There's no question about it. But the fact that John
Speaker 4: Douglas involved. I'll post that article John Douglas in West Memphistry.
Speaker 4: It'll blow your mind. Like the real facts of what
Speaker 4: he was doing. Now he's involved in John Beney, It's
Speaker 4: like it's a gigantic red flag for me, it's off
Speaker 4: the charts.
Speaker 3: So that's his job, right, that's his job to steer
Speaker 3: the public, the public view of you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So they in the case, they use him in the
Speaker 3: other case, and you look at like, who are the people,
Speaker 3: like all the Hollywood people that are putting Damien Echoes
Speaker 3: up on a pedestal because because he is the black
Speaker 3: magician who did the bad thing, and he's not even
Speaker 3: saying he didn't do it, and they're giving him the
Speaker 3: reward of all the fame and stuff. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a black magic death cult. Okay, like it's.
Speaker 5: And this is actually well, I agree with you, Sean.
Speaker 5: And to William's point, that happened in the OJ case
Speaker 5: and the Scott Peterson case where you see the same
Speaker 5: people popping up in the trial. And like with the
Speaker 5: OJ case, I actually did an episode because I was
Speaker 5: one hundred percent convinced that OJ did that shit. I
Speaker 5: was willing to die on that hill. And if you
Speaker 5: look at it, if you really look at the evidence,
Speaker 5: and you really look at all this stuff that they say,
Speaker 5: like the accusations and everything, and the people involved in
Speaker 5: the trial, and then you look at the Scott Peterson
Speaker 5: isle and the same people are popping up, you gotta
Speaker 5: ask yourself, is this part of the program? Kill the
Speaker 5: sacrifice the wife, right, Lacy Peterson was pregnant, okay, and
Speaker 5: then blame the husband. It's like you see that over
Speaker 5: and over and over and over again, and like the
Speaker 5: same weird people popping up in the trial is like
Speaker 5: how does this person go from OJ to Scott Peterson
Speaker 5: to this case to this case? And it's always like
Speaker 5: the husband gets blamed, the wife gets sacrificed in some
Speaker 5: kind of weird, bloody ritual, right, And what people don't
Speaker 5: know is even like in and around the time that
Speaker 5: Lacy Peterson died, there was like three or four other
Speaker 5: pregnant women about the same gestation, about eight months pregnant
Speaker 5: that also got found in bays with their heads cut off,
Speaker 5: with their babies removed. But they have to have a monster, right,
Speaker 5: Scott Peterson is the monster. There's no way there's a
Speaker 5: satanic cult running through uh, you know, Modesto, California, hacking
Speaker 5: up pregnant bitches. Like they don't want to say that.
Speaker 5: Just look at Scott. Everybody, look at Scott. That's what
Speaker 5: they did with John Bennet. Everybody look over here, look
Speaker 5: over here, don't look at there's a possible satanic cult
Speaker 5: running through Boulder, Colorado. Don't look at that. It's all here,
Speaker 5: look right here. So I mean it's the same playbook.
Speaker 3: Do you think maybe they were of the same gestation
Speaker 3: time because they were all at the same ritual being
Speaker 3: impregnated at the same time.
Speaker 5: That is that's dark, that's that's That's what JJ Vance
Speaker 5: said when I talked to him about it, because they're
Speaker 5: all part of these freaking sex cults and the weirdness.
Speaker 5: And there was like neo Nazi guys that testified against
Speaker 5: Scott Peterson. There was you know, Scott Peterson was involved
Speaker 5: in like like hydrogenized something or other that's used to
Speaker 5: make meth and stuff like that. It's like there's drugs,
Speaker 5: there's Nazis, There's all this stuff that comes up, but
Speaker 5: nobody ever hears about that. Same with the OJ thing,
Speaker 5: it's like why are It's like always look at the
Speaker 5: husband and don't ever look at these elite people. The
Speaker 5: son of Bill Colby, the guy, the CIA guy, the
Speaker 5: Phoenix Program guy, the son of Bill Colby testified at
Speaker 5: OJ's trial. Why like, how are you involved? Like why
Speaker 5: are you even here?
Speaker 4: What was his connection?
Speaker 5: He lived next door?
Speaker 4: Wow, that's so wild.
Speaker 5: William, I'm telling you this is I mean, Sean, I've
Speaker 5: talked to you about this before, But there is Colts
Speaker 5: running America. Okay, they're murdering bitches, pregnant bitches, children, they're
Speaker 5: raping your kids, They're doing all this stuff. But when
Speaker 5: it goes to trial, it's always the husband or the
Speaker 5: parents or it's always like they have to have a
Speaker 5: bad guy. So as long as you focus on whoever
Speaker 5: they give you as the bad guy, Henry Lee Lucas
Speaker 5: the serial killers, you have to have a bad guy, right,
Speaker 5: there cannot be any attention drawn to the cult behind
Speaker 5: the man. That is the problem.
Speaker 3: It's funny that Roman Polanski was out of town when
Speaker 3: his pregnant wife got murdered by the culture, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so he couldn't be the bad guy, right, but they
Speaker 3: so they had to depend it on this other guy.
Speaker 3: That's just like a little yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know that that whole thing is is c
Speaker 5: I a out the door with the Manson family, is all.
Speaker 5: And you know they they use mental institutions, I think,
Speaker 5: to look for people to be a part of these programs.
Speaker 5: You know, Herb Mullen, Edmund Kemper, ed Gian, Charles Manson,
Speaker 5: Richard Chase. They were all in and out of mental
Speaker 5: institutions before they began their massive killings.
Speaker 6: And the military, like you know, yeahs yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And they go to the same military bases too as
Speaker 3: the other one at the same programming for in Germany
Speaker 3: there with with the Dahmer and was it Kemper or whatever,
Speaker 3: like they both and they're both eating definitely yeah.
Speaker 5: Well you know I.
Speaker 3: Personality yeah right, program to kill right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, program to kill. Yeah. I recently watched that new
Speaker 5: ed Gian show on Netflix. Everybody you know has been
Speaker 5: talking about it. It's you know, and and the thing
Speaker 5: is is they give you the monster, right, that's the monster.
Speaker 5: That's who they want you to focus on. But if
Speaker 5: you do your research and you really look into it.
Speaker 5: In this area of Wisconsin where Jeffrey Dahmer was ripping
Speaker 5: and running and ed Gian, there have been satanic cults
Speaker 5: in that area for forever long. And I don't think
Speaker 5: ed Gahan or Jeffrey Dahmer were singular in their rippon
Speaker 5: in cannibalism and necrophilia. Oh what, they just have that
Speaker 5: in common. And they both are from Wisconsin in the
Speaker 5: same area. Uh Okay, that's a total coincidence. There should be.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying, Like, come on, guys, Like satanic cults have been
Speaker 5: running this country since its inception. Okay, so this is
Speaker 5: no different at all.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, government, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: The medical industrial complex is satanic Okay, in nature, a
Speaker 5: lot of it, you know. And it's like with this
Speaker 5: case in particular, what bothers me the most is how
Speaker 5: ritualistic in nature the killing itself was. It's blatantly obvious
Speaker 5: in my opinion when you look at it, I mean Christmas, Uh,
Speaker 5: the pageantry, the stories are not adding up, the bruises,
Speaker 5: the underwear, the party the night before, the nine one
Speaker 5: one call hunter s Thompson making weird freaking statements about
Speaker 5: giving children to each other as Christmas gifts as sexual playthings. Okay.
Speaker 5: He also, by the way, raped his cat under s Thompson,
Speaker 5: just so you know. He was into best reality.
Speaker 3: So cat survives.
Speaker 5: He wrote it, He wrote it in a book, and
Speaker 5: he put the cat on the picture on the on the.
Speaker 4: Cover of the book, reading something the cat and.
Speaker 5: What his own cat. His cat's name was Screwjack or
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 3: The book ironic name.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I mean.
Speaker 3: We know that, like the play guy rapes dogs and
Speaker 3: stuff in front of everybody, like.
Speaker 5: Hey, this is rich people, fun time. That's what I'm
Speaker 5: trying to tell you guys, it is like going all
Speaker 5: the way back into history with the royal families, the
Speaker 5: weirdness that you know, blood drinking and excinguination and bathing
Speaker 5: in the blood and all this stuff that they do.
Speaker 5: It goes all the way back.
Speaker 3: And the magic is the magic life force is in
Speaker 3: the blood. Right, you got the sex and the blood.
Speaker 3: Those are the two kinds of dark magic. Like you know,
Speaker 3: you rape them and then you kill them and you
Speaker 3: eat them, right, you know, it's total domination of the other.
Speaker 3: Both of those things are possession, ownership and domination. Like
Speaker 3: it's not even sex.
Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Think this is almost like a mean to an end.
Speaker 5: It's like when you hear about celebrities being petos or whatever,
Speaker 5: and you look at these like big names like Tom Hanks,
Speaker 5: et cetera, and you hear these stories about them, it
Speaker 5: almost makes you wonder. Like in the beginning, like when
Speaker 5: they're offered this Faustian bargain, it's like they they did
Speaker 5: they did this sex as a means to an end.
Speaker 5: It probably nauseated them to have to do it. It's
Speaker 5: like whatever, Like I think some of them are into it,
Speaker 5: and I think over time, they become more interested in
Speaker 5: just doing it and it's just normal to them. It's
Speaker 5: like going to you know, Walmart to get your groceries
Speaker 5: on it too. Oh I gotta rape Sally again. Like
Speaker 5: they just get used to it as a part of
Speaker 5: their life. It's like, no, biggie, this is what we do.
Speaker 5: This is you know. And so yeah, I mean I
Speaker 5: think you desensitize yourself over time.
Speaker 3: Who just got murdered in prison over there in England?
Speaker 3: The guy from the Lost Watkins. That's an unbelievable story.
Speaker 3: That's a whole other show, but that one is super
Speaker 3: up his computer. The team at the police had to
Speaker 3: decipher his computer password was I f U c K
Speaker 3: I d.
Speaker 4: Z that's what he wrote. Had no conscience about.
Speaker 3: It, and like, you know, you would tell the mothers
Speaker 3: if you if I own you, I own your children too,
Speaker 3: like and they're like, okay, giving it up to the idol,
Speaker 3: you know, just like whatever.
Speaker 5: The problem that's the problem is is the eyes wide
Speaker 5: shut connection here is that I think the story that
Speaker 5: they're trying to portray is may be based on Okay,
Speaker 5: John Benet herself or a similar situation, because if you
Speaker 5: look at anybody can google this. There's en an eyes
Speaker 5: white shut. Where what is the Tom Cruise's character's name?
Speaker 5: I forget now, Bill Harford. Bill, he's in the diner
Speaker 5: and he's got the newspaper open and he's reading, you know,
Speaker 5: about the woman who died that he thinks that he knows.
Speaker 5: Mandy I think is her name. And the description of
Speaker 5: what happened to her is the description of what happened
Speaker 5: to John Beney. I mean it reads word for word
Speaker 5: beauty queen dies or beauty queen slade, and then it
Speaker 5: says parents were connected with elites or some upper social
Speaker 5: class or something like. It says this in the newspaper. Okay,
Speaker 5: Jim was well connected in that beauty queen slade. That's
Speaker 5: stuff that they wrote about John Benney.
Speaker 3: Right, she failed, Mandy failed in beauty pageants. She didn't
Speaker 3: get first prize or whatever because she is using drugs
Speaker 3: or whatever. And then she started, Uh, then she married
Speaker 3: a fashion designer and or not even married, she was
Speaker 3: just his mistress or whatever. And yeah, that's that was
Speaker 3: her story because she was probably sold off to just
Speaker 3: like you know, it.
Speaker 4: Is so freaking dark. I cannot even believe so many
Speaker 4: dark stories like this. One's super dark. When you really
Speaker 4: look at it. It is like she was tied up,
Speaker 4: like she was bound like a sacrificial victim. It's so
Speaker 4: freaking dark. I'm gonna read from uh program to kill.
Speaker 4: I keep coming back to this. We we referenced this
Speaker 4: in my Control one O one because it ties into
Speaker 4: so much of the stuff, but uh, this paragraph. There was, however,
Speaker 4: certainly nothing unusual about that on the kiddy pageant circuit,
Speaker 4: as author Stephen Singular discovered when he ventured into that milieu.
Speaker 4: What you discovered as a world that few outside of
Speaker 4: the pageants circuit are familiar with. The World War Extraordinarily,
Speaker 4: young girls have their hair dyed, their teeth capped, their
Speaker 4: young faces sculpted by plastic surgeons, their chests bunched up
Speaker 4: with tape to form the appearance of cleavage, and their
Speaker 4: eye color enhanced with contact lenses. Singular also discovered that
Speaker 4: photographing these prepubescent beauty queens in risk gay poses is
Speaker 4: a routine business undertaken by some of the most highly
Speaker 4: regarded child photographers in the country.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: John Bannie Ramsey was just one of an estimated two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand girls were part of this billion
Speaker 4: dollar a year business that, by all appearances, cares primarily
Speaker 4: to the pedophilic tendencies of the adults who gravitate around
Speaker 4: the three thousand child beauty pageants held every year.
Speaker 5: Crazy And just so you know, the listeners out there
Speaker 5: when they went to question John Mainet's photographer about his
Speaker 5: so called beauty shots of John Benay, he killed himself.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: There's like a lot of people killing themselves and like
Speaker 4: getting busted for child born around this the beauty pageant themselves.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, it's like it's it's like this
Speaker 5: this paragraph right here. You know, I think people get
Speaker 5: sick to death of me talking about this book Program
Speaker 5: to Kill. But there is so much in it. It's
Speaker 5: such a it's such an important book to read. And
Speaker 5: you know, like there there have even been actually this picture,
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you brought this up. There have been
Speaker 5: people who have said that John Benet never even existed
Speaker 5: and that everything was made up. It was like a
Speaker 5: like a staged event, and that pictures like this of
Speaker 5: John Beney are AI the first AI images that we
Speaker 5: one could ever see in that it was a test
Speaker 5: to see if the public would believe it. And they
Speaker 5: use this photo because they say her eyes are brown,
Speaker 5: and in other photos of John Beney, her eyes are
Speaker 5: Green's pleasing, But my argument is much like Stephen Singular
Speaker 5: just said, they use contacts, they color their hair, they
Speaker 5: cap their teeth, they take them to plastic surgeons, they
Speaker 5: do all this stuff. We don't know what color her
Speaker 5: eyes were. When I see pictures of John Benet with
Speaker 5: green eyes that it looks artificial to me, as in
Speaker 5: contact lenses. And actually the color green is very, very
Speaker 5: significant to the Darker Cult. So a lot of the
Speaker 5: photos I see of John Manay, she's there's one where
Speaker 5: she's turned like this and she's holding up her finger
Speaker 5: like this, and she's got a green gemstone ring on
Speaker 5: and green contacts in and the backdrop is green, and
Speaker 5: you know it's the Emerald. It's a lot like Ruby
Speaker 5: Tuesday what we've talked about Sean. It's a ranking system
Speaker 5: within the Darker Cult. So John Benet, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: and this is Julia talking, not William or Sean, was
Speaker 5: a part of this satanic cult that paraded them about
Speaker 5: and they use this like the diamond, the Ruby, the Emerald,
Speaker 5: it's all significant within the dark cool Maryland was a diamond, right,
Speaker 5: diamonds are forever?
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 5: Tuesday, well, yes, so, and then we talked about Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Weld was She's the Ruby.
Speaker 3: Tuesday, Tuesday.
Speaker 5: And then John Beney every picture of her I see
Speaker 5: with these green contacts and like she's holding up this
Speaker 5: little green pinky ring with the green gemstone on it,
Speaker 5: green backdrop.
Speaker 3: The Emerald City, the Wizard of Oz, that whole thing, Like, Wow,
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 4: Guys really think it gets that dark? Wow? That's really.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Fritz Springmyer said that the green on
Speaker 3: the Emerald stuff was for like drug sales and like
Speaker 3: like black market type.
Speaker 5: I don't know, could be prostitution for all we know.
Speaker 3: He might be wrong, maybe, I mean like he's speculating too.
Speaker 3: I guess he's he's hearing it from survivors that only
Speaker 3: know from their perspective. Maybe green something else in some
Speaker 3: other facet of the cult systems, not one. It's lots
Speaker 3: of little pieces of cults that work together. They're not
Speaker 3: all the same religion and ship, but they all.
Speaker 5: There's something to it for sure, though, because to put
Speaker 5: it for like for the Rolling Stones to include it
Speaker 5: in a song. You know, you know it exists, right,
Speaker 5: like we know it means something and so another thing
Speaker 5: that right, I was just gonna say. Fritz Springmeier also
Speaker 5: talked about how they us Star Trek for programming.
Speaker 3: That's one of them.
Speaker 5: And when they rated or searched what what have you
Speaker 5: the Ramsey home, they found a lot of Star Treks,
Speaker 5: weird Star Trek stuff in the basement along with the
Speaker 5: movie making equipment. And so you you put, you start
Speaker 5: putting pieces together. It's like Fritz spring Meyer is writing
Speaker 5: about this stuff before John Benet even happened. Then they
Speaker 5: searched the home. You know, with the Wonderland raids, people
Speaker 5: are finding stuff on pedophiles computer of John Benay. The
Speaker 5: dad works for an access graphics company. Okay, they got
Speaker 5: video making equipment in the basement. They got Star Trek
Speaker 5: stuff all over the place. It makes you wonder, you
Speaker 5: know what the true story is going you know what's
Speaker 5: going on here.
Speaker 3: So the pornography is the money making portion, and it
Speaker 3: helps them to get more pedophiles. They can find the
Speaker 3: ones who are buying the stuff. They can be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you want to be hired, like Kathy O'Brien's dad was
Speaker 3: shipping porno tapes through the mail and the government saw that.
Speaker 3: Obviously there the government is one delivering the mail or
Speaker 3: the other person like, don't give the illegal thing the government.
Speaker 3: You're retired. But anyway, like he like, he's they say
Speaker 3: you can sell your daughter to us, or you can
Speaker 3: go to jail, and you know, and he got like
Speaker 3: he was able to f however many kids he wanted.
Speaker 3: He was just like free reign. You know, they get
Speaker 3: promoted when this happens, you know, mm hmm. It's like
Speaker 3: and the Carthaginian women would there there's a breeding system
Speaker 3: like if you didn't want to sacrifice your own kid,
Speaker 3: you just buy someone else's kids and sacrifice that.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's legit. Yeah, there was singular talks about that
Speaker 4: in his book where they're like levels of the pornography
Speaker 4: game and the CP is the big money supposedly, so
Speaker 4: like the other like Playboy or whatever, that's you know, nobody,
Speaker 4: they don't want them, but the secret stuff they charge
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 3: So there's you know, yeah, that's it funds the whole system.
Speaker 3: And it also like the the trauma based mind control
Speaker 3: of it, like it's necessary for the SRA. I mean,
Speaker 3: might as well make money from it, you know, And
Speaker 3: and then it creates more psychopaths, Like if you look
Speaker 3: into the pornography, people that watch snuff porn, they are
Speaker 3: psychopaths if they you know, like it's creating because they
Speaker 3: go down this like step wise progression into insanity and
Speaker 3: like not human anymore. Like they start with barely legal
Speaker 3: and then they go down to the you.
Speaker 5: Know, we'll be careful now, Sean, because we got to
Speaker 5: be politically correct. They're minor attracted person.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, they're protected now by the government of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think sex and pornography are drug, Like
Speaker 4: you need to get rush, right, so you're just like,
Speaker 4: oh you get watch plateboy, and then like you're at
Speaker 4: like abusing women and bar fit on them like that.
Speaker 4: Some of that stuff is yeah whatever, you know, and
Speaker 4: then you become a newer just like you said. And
Speaker 4: I did this show on the Route where that's how
Speaker 4: they programmed the guys. They got the criminals to go
Speaker 4: into the system, into the hospitals, started putting stuff on
Speaker 4: their head, showing them snuff lolms, to the point where
Speaker 4: they were so inured to it they had no physiological
Speaker 4: response of fear or loathing or disgust, and then they're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you're a great shape. You can go now, and yeah,
Speaker 4: we can send you to because you don't care about
Speaker 4: You've watched so many people have their throat slit. It
Speaker 4: just that it's not going to bother you at all.
Speaker 5: It's like the Phoenix Program coming home.
Speaker 3: The Ludovico method of Alex in clockwork Orangey.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's how That's how the guy was Richard Ramirez's
Speaker 4: uncle came back out of the Phoenix Program with all
Speaker 4: these gnarly pictures and stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and you know my thing too, is like
Speaker 5: your mind cannot There was a study about how your
Speaker 5: mind cannot determine the difference between watching something on a
Speaker 5: screen and portraying it in real life. And so when
Speaker 5: you're watching child pornography, you're watching that's how they program you,
Speaker 5: is through social media, movies, music, because your mind cannot
Speaker 5: discern the difference between watching something on a screen and
Speaker 5: something happening in real life. So when you watch these
Speaker 5: kind of things, it's literally I mean they even mentioned
Speaker 5: in the Program to Kill book, I think in the
Speaker 5: first two chapters how one of these child pornography websites
Speaker 5: had like a customer service line even so, like you
Speaker 5: set up an account and I guess if you're not
Speaker 5: getting your dose of like little boys getting you know whatever,
Speaker 5: you could call and be like, hey, I want to
Speaker 5: refund on my subscription. I'm not getting my feel of
Speaker 5: like what what kind of customers are? Like what are
Speaker 5: you customer servicing with that? It's disgusting.
Speaker 3: Government employees are the ones that are buying all the show.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is like what are what what do
Speaker 5: you say when you get to the phone, Like little
Speaker 5: boys are us? How can I help you? Like it's
Speaker 5: just like a business for them, Like this is the.
Speaker 3: Black market is like beyond what we can imagine. I'm sure,
Speaker 3: like there's the black market of like oh, you can
Speaker 3: buy some weed, you know, in the corner, but there's
Speaker 3: also you can buy a liver, or you can buy
Speaker 3: a whole woman, or like you can buy a severed head,
Speaker 3: and you know, like it doesn't if you're like the
Speaker 3: psychopathy is beyond and all of this unknown to us.
Speaker 5: The royal family members live so long because they're swapping
Speaker 5: out their freaking organs and stuff like that. I'm a
Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent sure of it. If they're even dead,
Speaker 5: they dictions, you know, they get they get blood transfusions,
Speaker 5: they get new hearts, they get new livers, they get
Speaker 5: new and they.
Speaker 4: Just like China, David Rockefeller got seven hearts.
Speaker 5: About that, that's why you think about that. Well, look
Speaker 5: at the queen before she died, she looked like she
Speaker 5: looked like a salamander or some shit. But she's got
Speaker 5: brand new organs, you know, and it's like, oh, she died,
Speaker 5: or did you just like upload her consciousness into a
Speaker 5: new body or so like, I don't even believe anything
Speaker 5: they say anymore. You know, on the outside she looks
Speaker 5: like a crushed out cigarette, but but on the inside
Speaker 5: she's pristine. She's got the heart of a twelve year old.
Speaker 5: She's got like the pancreas of a nine year old.
Speaker 5: Like that's how they live so long. And it's like freakish.
Speaker 5: They all got like weird blood disorders and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's astounding to me.
Speaker 3: And I mean you can look at the old like
Speaker 3: the ancient occult, they would like they would get energy
Speaker 3: from rubbing themselves on children or beings actually active with
Speaker 3: children holding them against their body for warmth. It was
Speaker 3: young virgins would sleep with Gandhi. It was very weird
Speaker 3: like that. And this is like a whole tantra like
Speaker 3: Kundalini type thing where their cat. Like even Epstein like
Speaker 3: at the point of almost ejaculation, he would like do
Speaker 3: business deals on the phone because he's like almost there
Speaker 3: and like oh yeah, so by what after? It's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's part of the magic, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like sex magic that they're.
Speaker 4: But that stuff goes all through history and through legend
Speaker 4: and lore of like old witch people draining children.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all.
Speaker 4: The way back to you know, answering rattle and all
Speaker 4: that stuff. You know, right.
Speaker 5: I just did an episode as part of one of
Speaker 5: my kind of Halloween episodes about the Blood Countess Elizabeth
Speaker 5: royal family member accused of slaughtering and cutting the titties
Speaker 5: off bitches and doing all the bathing in their blood
Speaker 5: and six hundred and fifty young girls she.
Speaker 3: Was part of. She was part of the Habsburg line,
Speaker 3: and the Habsburg is the double headed eagle of the
Speaker 3: back of the chair of ise white shut and you
Speaker 3: go to.
Speaker 4: You'll do right, yeah, Jill right's the Marshal of France.
Speaker 4: He's like, uh, you know, fighting against the English. What
Speaker 4: was the woman's name? The uh the little girl who
Speaker 4: was supposedly getting visions or whatever. He killed like five
Speaker 4: hundred boys, like just an incredible slaughter. Slaughter, yeah, yets right.
Speaker 4: Joe de Montmore's yeah, he was in a cold satanist.
Speaker 4: He was a cold statist Satanist. And you would, I mean,
Speaker 4: like the families, like where are my kids? All my
Speaker 4: kids are missing in this whole area, there's no children.
Speaker 4: It's because they're going into the castle. Was you'll do. Ryan,
Speaker 4: He's he's doing unspeakable things to him well, and you know,
Speaker 4: it reminds me he was the boss. He's like the
Speaker 4: handler of Joan of Arc right, which makes her you know,
Speaker 4: so called visions and all this stuff. It's like a
Speaker 4: high question because right behind her is this black literal
Speaker 4: black magician, right.
Speaker 3: Probably just propaganda. The whole thing is probably.
Speaker 5: Just That's where I think the vampire obsession comes from,
Speaker 5: because it's like lad the Impaler and the Blood Countess
Speaker 5: Elizabeth Batthery and they're all into blood drinking and that.
Speaker 5: You know, you look at the royal family and they're
Speaker 5: all proud of it, like I'm related to Glad the impair. Yeah,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, but you know, I think like it it
Speaker 5: has never stopped. It's like I said, they just get
Speaker 5: more slick about how they do stuff because you know,
Speaker 5: you can't just murder six hundred and fifty people with
Speaker 5: you know, not without people noticing anymore.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: But this case actually reminds me of another case that's
Speaker 5: adjacent to kind of Franklin Scandal and Hunter S. Thompson,
Speaker 5: which is Johnny Gosh. And you know, Paul Banassi talks
Speaker 5: about and his mom whether she's nuts or not, and
Speaker 5: a lot of people think that she's it she is,
Speaker 5: But Johnny Gosh's mom said that he was abducted by
Speaker 5: a pedophile ring. Paul Banasi said he was abducted by
Speaker 5: a pedophile.
Speaker 3: Ring, you know, helped to abduct him, right.
Speaker 5: That's what he says that well, yeah, right, yeah, But
Speaker 5: I mean, and it's like the kid kids are disappearing.
Speaker 5: It's like I I googled it one time. In the
Speaker 5: amount of kids that just go missing every year, disgusting.
Speaker 4: There's one hundred thousand kids like that were trafficked into
Speaker 4: the United States that are gone like under Oba under
Speaker 4: like Biden, right, because they're just like can't they don't
Speaker 4: even know where they are. Like it's like the US
Speaker 4: is just was invaded by like millions of just people.
Speaker 5: Records and clubs too is a part of that.
Speaker 3: It's totally gooulish, right, Yeah, the Finders was doing international
Speaker 3: child trade and they had pictures of bloody open goats
Speaker 3: and kids playing with goat guts and like naked people
Speaker 3: and how to sell your child in China, and like
Speaker 3: they had the computer tech long before anybody had internet
Speaker 3: computer tech, you know, m hmm. It was really holy crap.
Speaker 5: It's it just makes you wonder, though, why the cases
Speaker 5: of John Bennet, Johnny Gosh and like why why are
Speaker 5: these the ones that get sensationalized, if you will, when
Speaker 5: there's so many kids that go missing every year, And
Speaker 5: that's the question that you know, it's hard to answer.
Speaker 4: It's like true detective. It's a kids getting abducted and
Speaker 4: disappearing in occult rituals and stuff like that, and but
Speaker 4: nobody's paying attention or they're not even on the list,
Speaker 4: you know, and they're not solved either.
Speaker 3: They're not solved, and there's a cult cop cops that
Speaker 3: work for occult orders, that get the you know, get
Speaker 3: the oh bungle that one whoops, sorry, and then everybody
Speaker 3: wants to believe that. Everybody thinks it's more comfortable to
Speaker 3: believe that their government is just a bunch of bumbling
Speaker 3: idiots and just give them a pass on this one
Speaker 3: and then the next one and then the next one.
Speaker 3: And it just seems can't be a conspiracy theory, right,
Speaker 3: because that you know, I would be a pariah if
Speaker 3: I were to say a conspiracy, right.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought up True Detective though. You're talking
Speaker 5: about season one right with Matthew McConaughey. Man, I had
Speaker 5: never seen it. My husband made me watch it. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, that's lame. It was not lame. It
Speaker 5: was amazing. I loved it. And I think, yeah, probably,
Speaker 5: and you know, I think it's telling a story that's
Speaker 5: very true to what's going on. I even speculated a
Speaker 5: little bit that like Henry le Lucas is probably like
Speaker 5: second cousins to the Bush family or some shit kind
Speaker 5: of like on the some True Detective stuff. You know,
Speaker 5: it's like there they take their retarded family members and
Speaker 5: they make the monsters and they put all the blame
Speaker 5: on them for like, you know.
Speaker 3: They make a smart one the head of the c
Speaker 3: i A, they make the retarded one the president of
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean that's that's really what it is,
Speaker 5: because it's it's like a big family tree. And you
Speaker 5: know the reason I said Henry le Lucas might have
Speaker 5: been like second cousins to the Bush family is he
Speaker 5: got like exonerated or something like all that throat.
Speaker 4: He's the only one though, that's the one.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, William. It's like we don't know
Speaker 5: who his family is. We don't know like why is
Speaker 5: he the only one who ever got exonerated on death row?
Speaker 5: Bye bye? It was like Bush senor I want to say.
Speaker 3: It was the only one that w Yeah, right, but
Speaker 3: I mean we don't know a lot, like why is
Speaker 3: Jimmy Saville best friends with King Charles? Like you know what?
Speaker 3: Then you look into that guy and like, holy crap,
Speaker 3: Like it's it's there's a lot to just like what
Speaker 3: ieswatch shut is it's like all there, but nobody sees
Speaker 3: it like it's you know, we see it bubble out
Speaker 3: and it happens and then it's just like put it
Speaker 3: out of the rug. It's a lone nut or it's
Speaker 3: a one time right. I don't want to believe that.
Speaker 4: It's like the last scene in Iwhite shut you didn't
Speaker 4: see anything. People get to talk, some people get to
Speaker 4: talk and they shut up. They get it. They're like
Speaker 4: because even Singular said there was pervasive fear and boulder
Speaker 4: and a strange vibe in the whole city, like don't talk,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, not like people want to
Speaker 4: divulged up, but like hey, like hey, we can go
Speaker 4: to this bar talk, you know, Like they didn't come
Speaker 4: out and say something like that. But I don't know
Speaker 4: if you guys have heard, like what eyes well, I
Speaker 4: mean True Detective was based on a real case called
Speaker 4: the Hosana Church or where that Yes, yeah, well that's
Speaker 4: our next show. We could do that for Halloween. I'll
Speaker 4: church will try to schedule something before the It'll blow
Speaker 4: your mind. It's so bad like there was it wasn't
Speaker 4: that a guy whose dad was a priest, who was
Speaker 4: a pastor, he becomes the pastor, goes into Satanism, child abuse, animals,
Speaker 4: cops are involved shape shifting the whole black those of
Speaker 4: the church rituals will he's raped his kids. That's the allegation.
Speaker 4: Then that the story changes, then the kids take back
Speaker 4: the allegation.
Speaker 3: Like it's always like.
Speaker 5: False memory syndrome.
Speaker 4: But the original confession is on audio and he's like
Speaker 4: spilling the beans. His name is Monica.
Speaker 5: A show on that.
Speaker 4: That's the that's the basis of True Detective. Because the
Speaker 4: guy Nick Pizelto, who actually is in True Detective season one,
Speaker 4: he actually plays a bark under so he has a
Speaker 4: little scene in that. But yeah, you'll see if you
Speaker 4: go back, you can see him. I think they're planning
Speaker 4: on doing it in a season five now. But he
Speaker 4: is from Louisiana and this place happened in Louisiana north
Speaker 4: of Uh, what's the main city.
Speaker 5: It's so like New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nor Orleans like a hub of Satanism.
Speaker 5: Since yeah, I was gonna say New Orleans is like,
Speaker 5: you know, it's this swampy, weird like energy voodoo whodoo,
Speaker 5: Like it's the air is sticky, you know, it's got
Speaker 5: a weird vibe to it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a border town. It's a former kind of
Speaker 4: like frontier town almost like right, was the way up
Speaker 4: the river and all kinds of.
Speaker 5: Little I think it was part of a it's.
Speaker 3: The American Nile.
Speaker 5: It's like, well yeah, but I think, you know, it
Speaker 5: was part of a cult ritual in and of itself
Speaker 5: with Katrina. You know, I think they let a lot
Speaker 5: of people die there for uh, totally preventable by the way,
Speaker 5: you know, with the weird Levy situation.
Speaker 3: But government who heard them all into that building and
Speaker 3: then they all get.
Speaker 4: Yeah and didn't George, didn't Bush Barbara say oh, this
Speaker 4: is just treating him just fine. Like starving people are
Speaker 4: being shot and red.
Speaker 5: People are eating their own dogs.
Speaker 4: World Escape from New York Ship was going on there.
Speaker 3: And it's like wow, well now it's like all the time,
Speaker 3: every day like whatever, like you know, like there was
Speaker 3: like so many disasters and like Brandon's last year whatever
Speaker 3: his name is, you know, Biden's last year. Like the
Speaker 3: whole thing in western like Carolina and East Tennessee, that
Speaker 3: whole like the weather manipulation is like is off the scale.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: They say they're not seating it because the government shut down.
Speaker 4: There's not just no chemt oh I.
Speaker 3: Heard about that. Oh yeah, yeah, I heard that story.
Speaker 3: Sure they're still taking money out of people's paycheck though,
Speaker 3: So I don't know how shutdown they really are.
Speaker 5: You well, I don't know how how much further you
Speaker 5: guys want into John Bennet. But I was going to say,
Speaker 5: you know this, this entire story of her is. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's if you read the chapter in this book Program
Speaker 5: to Kill. Its traumatizing almost to think about. You know,
Speaker 5: I do think it was kind of like a sloppy
Speaker 5: cover job for an accidental situation that happened the night
Speaker 5: before at the Christmas Eve party with the weird nine
Speaker 5: to one to one call and stuff. But I think
Speaker 5: that this story is kind of being portrayed in Eyes
Speaker 5: Wide Shut, and they do this over and over again
Speaker 5: in different TV shows and movies. I think the guys
Speaker 5: who write American Horror Story know what's up. They put
Speaker 5: a lot of weird stuff into their shows. And the
Speaker 5: one guy that came from American Horror Story is the
Speaker 5: one that's doing all these serial Killers shows on Netflix.
Speaker 5: It's the same guy. So he did American Horror Story,
Speaker 5: now he's doing Dahmer and ed Gean and you know,
Speaker 5: all this bad stuff, the no the writer, the writer,
Speaker 5: and what of him Mark Man? What is his name?
Speaker 5: American Horror Story.
Speaker 3: Those kind of serial horror Ry.
Speaker 4: Murphy, Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's him. So he did Glee first, right, and
Speaker 5: by the way, a lot of people involved with Glee
Speaker 5: ended up dying weird okay, like they were off like
Speaker 5: final Destination Glee type shit. And then he went on
Speaker 5: to make American Horror Story. Now he's making all these
Speaker 5: Dahmers and ed Gean's and you know, it makes you
Speaker 5: wonder how much he knows, just like Stanley Kubrick, how
Speaker 5: much did he know? How much was he involved? Right?
Speaker 5: That's the big question is we know he knows, but
Speaker 5: is he involved? You know? So I am an admirer
Speaker 5: of his work, and that's definitely not a secret. You know,
Speaker 5: obviously from my background, anybody would know. I am an admirer.
Speaker 5: But the question has always nagged at me if you know,
Speaker 5: does that mean you're involved? Because look at eyes, white shirt,
Speaker 5: I mean, look at the shiny look at you know,
Speaker 5: like I said, clockwork orange Lolita, Like, okay, we know
Speaker 5: you know, but are you involved? That's the thing.
Speaker 4: So there's a couple of statements, but not nothing definitive.
Speaker 5: Right, nothing, nothing definitive but the one.
Speaker 4: Crazy days and nights statement like not good, Like.
Speaker 3: He did move his family away from everywhere all that craziness,
Speaker 3: and he did kind of stay on the compound and didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was afraid of something that seems sure, seems
Speaker 4: like it to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't fly, afraid to fly. Good for him.
Speaker 5: Smart, smart, Yeah, you know with all the fake moon
Speaker 5: landing stuff and like we know he was friends with
Speaker 5: like some upper echelon German weirdos like Warner von Braun.
Speaker 3: He his wife is the niece of Viite Harlan, the
Speaker 3: most prolific German director who was commissioned by the Nazis
Speaker 3: to make anti Jewish films.
Speaker 5: That's crazy to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yud SEUs is.
Speaker 4: The one, and it's like, oh yeah, it's like super right,
Speaker 4: anti Semitic, big nosed jew, right, but he was hired
Speaker 4: by the Nazis to do that.
Speaker 3: But I mean other movies too.
Speaker 4: I think his son worked for Kubrick, right, So it
Speaker 4: was his wife's his.
Speaker 3: Wife's brother Jan Harlan Is. They're both niece and nephew
Speaker 3: Vite Harlan, who's that director who's like the best director
Speaker 3: of Germany and like you should see, like his films
Speaker 3: are very beautifully ton just amazing, and Kubrick married into
Speaker 3: the family. It shows a respect for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he probably faked the moon landing. So
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, there's there's a lot to be
Speaker 5: said there. I do think there is connections with Eyes
Speaker 5: Wide Shut and John Benney. I think the whole beauty
Speaker 5: queen angle is very specific. I think the toys store
Speaker 5: at the end of the movie where they're leading the
Speaker 5: little girl off, I think that's very specific, you know,
Speaker 5: and Jeff.
Speaker 3: That they had and there was also Leley Sobieski, a
Speaker 3: little bit older than Helena, who was obviously like she
Speaker 3: was being used for as a prostitute child prostitute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like it's like we said earlier, I
Speaker 5: think there's he's showing there's levels to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like stages of life on the girls like yeah, well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, oh, your dad owns a costume store,
Speaker 5: will just let some chinaman Rapia. But if you're Helena,
Speaker 5: you get like these elite, you get the upper echelon,
Speaker 5: like senators and governors get to Rapia.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, But really Militic is not
Speaker 3: really Yeah, there's jud sus right and it's a it's
Speaker 3: a really good movie.
Speaker 5: Is not him that that guy?
Speaker 4: I think that's right.
Speaker 3: But so like Militic is not really the father of Lily,
Speaker 3: Like they don't right right hand right, So he's like
Speaker 3: they she passes through him to like get her programming,
Speaker 3: just you know, it's like rolling and he was and
Speaker 3: he took over an operation that was already happening before
Speaker 3: you know, Bill went to visit this guy that was
Speaker 3: his customer. Oh, I'm his doctor, and like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: in charge of rainbow and fashions now, like it's always
Speaker 3: been going, always been there.
Speaker 5: Yeas yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Where did they film Ice Wide Shut?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: In England? It was all of it. The whole thing
Speaker 3: was a set. They got like a little piece of
Speaker 3: film that they did with a green screen of New
Speaker 3: York City.
Speaker 5: Just well I know that they filmed like the weird
Speaker 5: sex orgy scene in a roth.
Speaker 3: Child's meant more Towers, right.
Speaker 5: So wasn't that at the time that they were making
Speaker 5: Ice Wide Shut? I believe it was Nicole Kidman was
Speaker 5: living in Colorado?
Speaker 4: What okay?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm not sure where Nicole Kimman was living. Uh,
Speaker 3: but we but her family has their own allegations with
Speaker 3: the you know her, like we if you wanted to,
Speaker 3: if you want to believe the eyes wide open book
Speaker 3: and like I'm I'm not sure if I believe anymore. Uh,
Speaker 3: but so like some things may be true and I'm
Speaker 3: but I do think that she actually the actress is
Speaker 3: actually a programmed multiple like I actually think in real
Speaker 3: life she is that. And like her dad was working
Speaker 3: for the governments. Uh, he was doing mk ultra stuff
Speaker 3: and programming children through trauma based mind control. Why wouldn't
Speaker 3: he program his own daughter, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And she's still being used. They're like she's eating bugs
Speaker 3: for Variety magazine.
Speaker 5: Oh god.
Speaker 3: She's like she's in front of like yellow velvet instead
Speaker 3: of the red carpet stuff that of esewatch shuts, but
Speaker 3: it's still ornate. They got that whole thing going. She's like,
Speaker 3: I don't seven course meal of bugs, and she's just
Speaker 3: like happily because she's like programmed too. She's not feeling emotions,
Speaker 3: she's just doing the robot thing. You know.
Speaker 5: Well, I read an interview with her where she said
Speaker 5: her favorite movie is the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think that's a red flag right there,
Speaker 5: you know, guys, and I actually talked to William about this,
Speaker 5: very very briefly, how they include so much Wizard of
Speaker 5: Oz stuff in the movie. Girl interrupted, And yeah, that
Speaker 5: would that would still be a good one to even Sean.
Speaker 5: You would probably enjoy that one too, because there is
Speaker 5: so much Wizard of Oz stuff and girl interrupted, And
Speaker 5: I think it's just like a you know, a calling card,
Speaker 5: like mental illness, mind control programming, and Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 4: Mark David Chapman, Yeah, on his own little ritual thing
Speaker 4: was the picture of the Wizard of Oz in addition
Speaker 4: to addition to the Catcher and the Rye, which is
Speaker 4: really the more than I read read through with the
Speaker 4: Catcher and the Rye, the darker it gets.
Speaker 5: Well, there you go with un a writer. Girl interrupted
Speaker 5: right there.
Speaker 4: That's her times she's read it or something crazy.
Speaker 3: She related to Timothy Leary in some way.
Speaker 4: To Timothy. Leary's archivist was named Horrowitz and she is
Speaker 4: his daughter, so very close to Leary, so very close
Speaker 4: to Crowley actually, because Leary goes Carr.
Speaker 5: Right wow.
Speaker 4: And then she's in West Memphis three supporter just like John. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love to wrap it up.
Speaker 3: People. Thank you both for joining us in, for letting
Speaker 3: me be part of this, and I'm glad that it
Speaker 3: came together. So before we're done, you mentioned Julia that
Speaker 3: you have a baby. Now, I would love to say congratulations,
Speaker 3: Cosmic mom.
Speaker 4: Change your name now. Yeah, yeah, Cosmic, congratulations again.
Speaker 5: You know you want people like me having babies in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five because you know that there's hope for
Speaker 5: the future.
Speaker 4: That's the future. You're our future.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you really.
Speaker 4: Are the future, and you have all this knowledge, this
Speaker 4: kind of like new Internet knowledge. I don't know what
Speaker 4: the generation is, but it's some kind of.
Speaker 5: I see homeschooling in his future.
Speaker 4: I do too. I'm going to say that thinking that.
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm not him into mc martin.
Speaker 4: Organic homegrown food or playing.
Speaker 5: In the Yeah, that's yeah, you're not. You're not going
Speaker 5: to see my son John Benet, that's for damn sure,
Speaker 5: or any other you know. So, but thanks so much
Speaker 5: for having me too. Guys, this has been awesome. I
Speaker 5: hope you know we had a little bit of a
Speaker 5: time difference and stuff going on. Thank you for understanding
Speaker 5: and thinking. I hope I made it worth your while.
Speaker 3: You and please tell us, tell the listeners where they
Speaker 3: can find you, tell us all about your stuff here.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so I have Cosmic Peach podcast. I took
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks off obviously I just had a baby.
Speaker 5: But I'm jumping back in the saddle. This is my
Speaker 5: first show since you know, I got out of the hospital,
Speaker 5: and it's you know, it was my baby before my baby.
Speaker 5: I love my show. I want to keep it going.
Speaker 5: I put out you know, I try to put out
Speaker 5: two episodes a week if I can, and you can
Speaker 5: find it wherever you listen to you know, any any
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Speaker 3: You'll find a Patreon too.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I do so. I post all the
Speaker 5: episodes early so you get earlys over there. I post
Speaker 5: exclusive content over there, and you get all the videos
Speaker 5: ad free stuff on Patreon so you can find me.
Speaker 5: And that's the best way to support the show too,
Speaker 5: because diapers are expensive people. So yeah, I definitely appreciate
Speaker 5: Oh God ship everywhere. You know. The ed Gian review
Speaker 5: is up if if you guys are interested, if you
Speaker 5: want to check that out, it's uh yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: satanic cults running and gunning throughout the US in my opinion, But.
Speaker 4: This is a lot of this is opinion, Like we
Speaker 4: don't know, there's no court case.
Speaker 3: We're just learning facts. We're digging down rabbit holes. It's
Speaker 3: it's a never ending rabbit hole that keeps going. We love,
Speaker 3: we love digging and learning all this.
Speaker 4: When you look at all, it's hard to believe they
Speaker 4: didn't they didn't go to court. It's hard to believe
Speaker 4: that there wasn't a court case involved in this.
Speaker 5: Thanks to Alex Hunter.
Speaker 4: There was so much, so much public interest even to
Speaker 4: this stake. Can you believe it? It's been almost thirty years.
Speaker 4: It's really incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's sad because she would be about my age,
Speaker 5: and you wonder, like just an entire life crushed.
Speaker 3: Out for what she could be having a baby, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she could be the next generation is like has been
Speaker 3: sacrificed to the evil cults.
Speaker 4: Evil, pure evil. Thanks guys, really appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the dead for shan to go check it. Yes, I'll
Speaker 4: put all this stuff in the show notes. Awesome, I say, dad, people, I.
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