WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.200 Baby, you are my gamester too. It takes a little tangle. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:09.199 You mess with me, mess with me by my gamester too, 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:16.239 Baby Gamester too. 4 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:26.800 For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you 5 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.839 outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 6 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.000 Listening Discretion is a vibe. 7 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:52.840 The fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Okay, 8 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.759 we are a lot pot. This is William Ramsey. Welcome 9 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.560 to William Ramsey Investigates on Today Show up two very 10 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.000 special guests. They're gonna kind of co host the world, 11 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.320 going to just have a kind of brain, you know, 12 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.680 to drain our brain of all this information about John 13 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.799 Banne Ramsey, at least on my show. You know, Sean 14 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.200 mccannt done so many with thirty shows now or something 15 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.599 like that. We're going to actually I'll be talking to 16 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:16.879 him tomorrow morning. If he shows up, I don't know, 17 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.439 but we're trying to do it tomorrow morning. For episode 18 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:24.359 seven of The Manchurian Candidate Fiction to Fact, we're going 19 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.560 to go into George Coben Esterbrooks, a very important person, 20 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.719 often overlooked. I say that his documents that were released 21 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:35.200 by Black Vault FOI are really some of the most 22 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:38.239 important documents that really inform the sixties in a way 23 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:41.760 that even other authors haven't done, because it shows that 24 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:45.040 Hoover knows a lot of this secret knowledge and it 25 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.400 was never divulged to the public, even to authors and 26 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.439 things like that. They may have sought pieces of it, 27 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.280 but he's involved in so many of these assassinations. Hoover's 28 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.920 right behind the scenes there, and the FBI is involved 29 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.200 behind the scenes of the Kirk assassination. So this a 30 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.760 trend continues. But like I said, Sean and I have 31 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:07.319 done like thirty shows, and then also Julia of Cosmic 32 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.599 Peach is here and we've done i think three or 33 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.680 four or five shows, and we've been talking and I've 34 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.680 been talking to Sean about this John. But hey, there's 35 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.919 a lot to this story. It happened in nineteen ninety six. 36 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:23.240 It's very delicate. These are our opinions or other people's 37 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.240 opinions of what happened. There's really been no court trial, 38 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.840 so you can't say these people have been convicted of anything. 39 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.000 They haven't been convicted, they haven't been tried. It didn't 40 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:35.560 even get to that point. There was a lot of 41 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.840 work done at in Colorado, but it never got to 42 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.479 the point where they were indicted. If I remember, maybe 43 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:45.680 my memory is not serving me correct. But there's a 44 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:49.199 lot of stuff I've researched today. There's I've read through 45 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.400 the book by Cyril Weckt, who I had on my 46 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.000 show when he was among us. He was a great 47 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.319 man and he's unfortunately passed away. He did a lot 48 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.280 of work on the Smiley Faced killings on some of 49 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:03.639 these cases too, as an independent medical examiner, and he 50 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:05.719 wrote who killed John Binney? And he had some very 51 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.400 opinionated views or conclusions that he made in that book 52 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:12.759 that we're going to go through. But Julia says she's 53 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:14.879 got a lot of research, so we're going to go 54 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:18.800 through this. But this is we don't like, we're not 55 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.039 saying these people committed the crime there. But there's a 56 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.000 lot of questions that need to be answered about the 57 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.159 John Binney to this day, and it happened in this 58 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:30.000 environment of like child porn pages. I've read through the 59 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.159 singular book today where he claims that they're part of 60 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.520 this whole pageant pedophile and there's a lot of these 61 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:39.439 people who were involved in the pageants who got busted 62 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.639 for child porn see Sam is what they call it now, 63 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.319 So this is kind of going to be a disturbing show, 64 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.599 kind of a Halloween show too, and might get really graphic. 65 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:52.360 Like even her passing was very graphic, and she was 66 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.960 clearly sexualized wearing makeup at six years old, five years old, 67 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:58.960 And I remember, I haven't seen the videos, but like 68 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.560 those past legents are weird. They're almost like strict Eases 69 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.800 or something like that, like Lamb strict Jesus. But anyway, 70 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.879 welcoming back to the show, Julia and Shaun, So welcome 71 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.120 back to William Ramsay Inveust. 72 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:17.519 Kids. Well, I just want to say hello Julia, and 73 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.959 I'm bringing my own Wake the Dead audience here to 74 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:27.319 this conversation to listen in because this is really wonderful 75 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.600 knowledge to learn. And I've been digging down this myself 76 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:36.279 because of my never ending looking looking into Eyes Wide 77 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:41.160 Shut by Stanley Kubrick and the fact that the Helena 78 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.120 gets stolen at the end, and there's this cult, the 79 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:49.720 sex cult, the groom's children into you know, the Leley 80 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.560 Sviski knew about the Ermine cloak, and she's you know, 81 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.879 she's so she knows about the rituals. So it's all 82 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:59.040 one big melting pot. And I guess like the stew 83 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.319 is brewing, and so I'd like to know as much 84 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.600 information as possible that you can bring about John Manay 85 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:06.839 is totally related to this. 86 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.399 And also Christmas, remember too, So this happened at after 87 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.720 Christmas party, so it's some kind of weird after party 88 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:16.040 that they were out to. 89 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:22.040 And children Mass is just after Christmas and they do 90 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.879 sacrifices and children Mass too, like there's a lot of 91 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.759 occult holidays that are just around that time. But anyway, 92 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.639 please welcome Julia, sorry say hello please. 93 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:37.199 Then yeah, thanks for having me, William and Sean. I 94 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:42.720 actually covered this topic as a Christmas special if you will, 95 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:46.720 the last two years. So last year and the year 96 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.600 before I talked about what happened to her kind of 97 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:56.279 on the anniversary of her death. And I really didn't 98 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:01.120 know too much about her other than like the mainstream 99 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.959 narrative until I read Program to Kill. And that's a 100 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:10.120 book that I've mentioned several several several times by David McGowan. 101 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:13.639 He has a lot of stuff in that book. I mean, 102 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:18.439 it's it's like a treasure trow. They're serial killers, pedophilia, 103 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.680 you know, Mark Dutreaux is in that book, and Mick 104 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.360 Martin is in that book, and John Benet is in 105 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.879 that book. And so I read that chapter and I 106 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:34.800 was astounded by the amount of information that's never actually 107 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:40.160 given to the mainstream public. And I have some notes 108 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.959 that I want to go over just from this book. Obviously, 109 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.879 this is Dave's opinion based off of research that he's done. 110 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:50.839 I expanded on it a little bit with my own research. 111 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.399 So yeah, I mean it is my opinion, and it 112 00:06:54.480 --> 00:07:00.240 is some speculation, but I like the parents and or 113 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.519 the brother have already been convicted in the public opinion, 114 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:09.240 so you know that goes without being said. Everybody's kind 115 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.199 of you know, got their own opinion on what they 116 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.399 think happened. So all we can do is go based 117 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.920 on my favorite thing, forensics. That's a big one because 118 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:26.560 forensics don't usually lie. They're you know, they're cut and dry. 119 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:29.199 It is what it is. And then what we know 120 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:33.519 about pop culture and the occult and how it all 121 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:37.279 goes in together, because like you said, I think that 122 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.600 there are breadcrumbs in the movie Eyes Wide Shut as 123 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:48.240 to a pedophile ring operating maybe even in or around Boulder, 124 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.199 and it's been going on for a long time. And 125 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:55.519 I don't think John Bennet is actually a special case. 126 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.480 She's special to us, but I think there have been many, many, 127 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:04.240 many many John Bennet's that we will just never know about. 128 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.240 But yeah, thanks guys for having me. I'm excited to 129 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:08.399 get into this one. 130 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.279 There were I was reading today, there were deaths surrounding 131 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.360 this case. So John Benet wasn't vacuum. There was another guy, 132 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.480 Egsat or something like that who died or who was 133 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:25.439 under investigate investigation, and then he mysteriously ends up dead. 134 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:26.920 I forgot. Let me see if I can find him 135 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.439 in my notes. But yeah, and it's connected to like 136 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.960 this broader network I've done these network shows, or like 137 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:34.399 it's really something else. 138 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:38.519 Well, are you guys familiar with the Wonderland. 139 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:42.720 Raids a little bit? Can you go into the Orchid 140 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:43.720 in Wonderland Raids? 141 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:47.480 Right? Yeah, So the Wonderland Raids are actually mentioned in 142 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:52.759 Program to Kill as well. They were a it was 143 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:57.480 like a task force that was uncovering pedophile networks and 144 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.279 they called it the Wonderland Raids because, as most of 145 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:04.679 you know, what's the guy who wrote Alice in Wonderland's name. 146 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:12.200 I always forgot Charles Dodgson, Yeah, Charles Dodgson or Carroll 147 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.200 is his alias or what his suitor name, but. 148 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:23.000 He uh obviously was a prolific pedophile. And so they 149 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:27.879 named this this task force the Wonderland Raids because they 150 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.720 were going after pedophiles. And there were quite a few 151 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:36.360 instances where photographs of John Bennet had been found on 152 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:43.600 people's computer and John Benet's father did own Access Graphics 153 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:49.080 and was involved in who knows what with that, but 154 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:53.840 it just seems like an odd coincidence that photos of 155 00:09:53.879 --> 00:10:00.759 her were circulating on pedophiles computers and he had gotten 156 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.120 like a really big bonus that year that was the 157 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.799 same amount as what was mentioned in the ransom note, 158 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.679 almost down to the dollar. A lot of weird coincidences 159 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.960 with that. When they searched the Ramsey home, there was 160 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:20.360 a lot of video making equipment, almost like black magic cameras, 161 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:26.519 like studio grade movie making equipment, So you could speculate 162 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:28.679 and put two and two together that there may have 163 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.799 been something more going on with that, but I don't know. 164 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:38.360 The Wonderland Raids in and of themselves were crazy because 165 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.600 they found this network was not just isolated to one area, 166 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.000 but it was all over the US, dozens and dozens 167 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.879 and dozen. It was kind of like a podcast that 168 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:53.159 I listened to called The Clown and the Candy Man, 169 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:57.600 and it was about the pedophile network that John Vayne 170 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:01.240 Gacy was working out of. And it was in Dallas, 171 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:04.639 it was in you know, Chicago. It was in all 172 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:08.200 these major cities and then communicated with each other and 173 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.000 they exchanged information through like some weird pedo network. They 174 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:16.320 even had like a like a comic book or like 175 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.039 a thing that you could order that would just show 176 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.679 up at your house. It was like Little Boys Weekly 177 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.840 or something like that. And it just, I mean, the 178 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:31.200 depravity is deep with this case, but I don't think 179 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.320 it's an isolated case for sure. 180 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:40.879 So can let's just frame so John Banat Ramsey had 181 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:46.279 to dress up like a showgirl with like feathers and 182 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:52.000 all the makeup and dance in front of leering individuals, 183 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.879 whether they be the parents or other people that just 184 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.279 happened to pay it for a ticket to go see 185 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:04.720 or whatever. So we know that anywhere there's children, there 186 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.960 are pedophiles there that are predating on them, you know, 187 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:14.480 especially if they're dressed up like sex pots. I mean, 188 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.080 I mean Tom Hanks is in the SNL skit they're 189 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.440 making fun of how yeah, you know, and we know 190 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:24.559 about him, don't we. 191 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.440 It's also they made fun of it in South Park too. 192 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.960 They did a sequence of child pageants and basically every 193 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:33.240 you know, oh is. 194 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:38.639 That the one with Michael Jackson, they. 195 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.799 Actually like panned to the parents. 196 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:49.559 And right, yeah, well, you know the thing is that's 197 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:53.240 weird about the pageants, and you know, this is not 198 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:58.120 my opinion, but I did verify this. Listen to a 199 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.159 podcast a while back where so someone made the claim 200 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:08.639 that none, not a one like Naarry a pageant that 201 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:13.639 John Bennet supposedly won, it actually exists. There's no record 202 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:17.720 of those pageants ever existing. There's no other competitors from 203 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:22.120 any other years of those pageants ever existing. There's no 204 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.399 h you can google the pageants that she supposedly won. 205 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:29.960 There's no previous years of little girls winning. There's no 206 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:34.600 years after that of little girls winning. These pageants do 207 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:41.080 not exist. Little Miss Charlavoy, little Miss Sunshine Peach, whatever, 208 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:51.120 these pageants do not exist. And I actually because I 209 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.919 could not find any record of these pageants existing. I 210 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.840 googled a pageant that I was in as a little girl, 211 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.600 because my mom was not a peto or anything, but 212 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.799 you know, the pageants come around. You got a Southern 213 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.559 mom and she puts you in this shit. I had 214 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.360 no choice. I was like six years old. Anyways, It's 215 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:12.600 called little Miss grape Bet and it's from my area 216 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:17.720 of Ohio is known for like grapes and you know, 217 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.080 wine and stuff like that, so it was like a 218 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.799 little Miss grape Bet pageant. There is record of years 219 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.000 of the girls who won before me, after me, the 220 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:31.799 year I was in it. There's pictures, there's websites. It's 221 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.639 easily available if you want the information on that pageant. 222 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:41.240 None narry a one pageant that John Benet was supposedly 223 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:45.639 the winner of. There is no record of these pageants 224 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.559 ever existing outside of John Benet. 225 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.799 So were they just making these pageants up as like. 226 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:56.320 They're private pageants they're pride? 227 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:03.000 Yes, yeah, victory is preset or something like that. It's 228 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:04.960 almost like a fake thing. 229 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:10.519 It's the so it's she's like the Queen bee of 230 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.519 and and that's you know, usually would they pick you, 231 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:17.360 you end up dying in some weird sacrificial way at 232 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.720 the end of it. But you know, it's like she's 233 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:22.720 in all these private pageants and then we see what 234 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:27.200 happened to her. It's like an auction almost like you 235 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:31.000 are auctioning off the prized pig at the fair or 236 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:35.639 something like that. It's yeah, so I think that it's 237 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.120 made to make them feel special. I think that it's 238 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:44.639 made to kind of parade about the prize pig. And 239 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:49.879 then you know, obviously not saying for sure this is 240 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:53.639 what happened, but we know she's dead now and it 241 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.159 was not like a peaceful uh you know, she didn't 242 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:01.080 have an asthma attack, that she was brutalized. So just 243 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.840 going off of the information we have in the fact 244 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.399 that these pageants don't exist outside of her, you can 245 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.159 only imagine what's really going on behind the scenes. 246 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:16.080 Wow, it's dark. According to Grock, there was a pageant 247 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.759 from ninety three to ninety six and that was it. 248 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.559 It says like that, this says that Miss Little Miss 249 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:27.039 Charlotte Boy pageant was a child bredy competition. Nineteen ninety three. 250 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:29.720 Seven year old Jessica nagel One, who was held over 251 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:34.320 the fourth of July, went weekend with aligning with summer 252 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.000 festivities in the area, such as the Charlotte wah Venetian 253 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.559 Festival small Field. There were only three participants. 254 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:43.960 Three, okay, all right? 255 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.799 John Benet Ramsey won the title in nineteen ninety five. 256 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.039 And then there was no year after that. 257 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:54.240 Following John Beanne's murder nineteen ninety six, the pageant distributed 258 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.120 to something. There's no evidence that it continues today. There's 259 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.799 no evidence after her death. And she died in what 260 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:01.480 ninety six. 261 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.160 Maybe she spoiled it by dying. 262 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:05.640 I think. 263 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:10.240 So. She won in ninety five and died a year later. Crazy. 264 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.160 There was also a really odd amount of pageants won 265 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.920 by John Maine. I'm going to google it really quick. 266 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:23.160 How many pageants did John Maney. 267 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:25.599 Win on the books? Like on the record? 268 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.000 Yeah, how many on the books? 269 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:31.279 How many beyond that? We don't know? Like like Bryce 270 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:37.160 Taylor was sold to h to Bob Hope and Henry 271 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:43.559 Kissinger together. She was displayed on a stage with feathers 272 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.200 like a show girl. And she asked her handler what 273 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.880 she's doing there, and he said, we are. You are 274 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:55.200 the Cadillac of mind control. Basically, you are Cadillac and 275 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.400 we're showing you off, and then that was when she 276 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:01.000 got sold. She was like the little dance and it's 277 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:02.839 it's an auction, just like Julius. 278 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.160 Well, I have another story about that too. So according 279 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:10.079 to Google, there is no definitive total number of pageants 280 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.000 she entered, which is odd no definitive number, right, but 281 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:19.119 they have little Miss Royal Miss, Little Miss Charlavoy, Little 282 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:24.440 Miss Colorado, Colorado State All Star Kids, Cover Girl, and 283 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:28.319 National Tiny Miss Beauty, and I googled several of these 284 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:31.000 and I couldn't really find anything on them. It's kind 285 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.079 of like that person that I heard on a podcast 286 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.240 talking about there's not a lot of information on them, 287 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.839 like they never existed except for I guess that one 288 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:41.440 for a couple of years and something. 289 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:44.799 It's like a flash in the pan, like yeah. 290 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:49.359 So, I mean, she's supposed to be six when she dies. 291 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:53.440 How did she a pageant a year? Right? When did? 292 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:53.680 When? 293 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:57.240 When would she have started? So right here? That's one, two, 294 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.279 three four five right here. So once she starts in 295 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:05.440 utero winning these pageants, the pageants season is once a year. 296 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.440 It's not like she could have won, Like really think 297 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:11.720 about that one, two, three four five listed right here, 298 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.119 she's only six years old. When do they start letting 299 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.319 them in pageants? So when they're one? Like, when how 300 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:20.640 was she able to win all of these? It doesn't 301 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:25.839 make sense actually for the timeline. So another thing is, 302 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.119 and you may have heard of this story. Are you 303 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.119 familiar with Heather or' rourke little girl? 304 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.279 Unfortunately? 305 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.880 So, have you heard the story of what probably happened 306 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:39.480 to her death? 307 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:40.599 Yes? 308 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.519 But they made her come out and do a dance, right, 309 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.440 They made her do like a little hula girl dance 310 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.200 and dress in a bikini, and the there was a 311 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:58.160 lot of like producers and directors there supposedly, right, I 312 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:04.640 wasn't there, But this is the accusation. And so John 313 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:10.079 Benet Heather or rourke. It's not an isolated event. And 314 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.359 obviously you were talking about someone, you know, Sean, who 315 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.880 was auctioned off kind of in this way as well. 316 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:17.920 Yeah. 317 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:24.640 Yeah, So, I mean it's the nameless, faceless little girls 318 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:29.079 that make my stomach sick because it could literally be 319 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:36.759 your daughter, your sister, your niece, your whoever. I don't 320 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:39.720 even know if we would know the name John Beney 321 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:46.079 outside of her murder. So it's like they become infamous 322 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:50.480 in death. Right, good point. But how many little girls 323 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:51.559 do we not know about? 324 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:53.920 Yeah? Good point. 325 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.599 And that's why so many of those victims are out 326 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:01.880 there saying the truth of so that everybody can remember 327 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:06.200 the nameless ones that burned alive or fed to the 328 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.480 dogs or whatever else. 329 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:14.759 Yeah, yeah, one hundred William. And you know, before I 330 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:18.039 had my own baby, I used to talk about this 331 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.839 stuff and I would, you know, empathize, and I would 332 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:25.519 say how horrible it would be that this would happen 333 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.880 to children, and it would make my stomach sick, especially 334 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.680 reading about the mc martin stuff. I wanted to throw up. 335 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.039 But now that I have my own baby, I cannot 336 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:44.160 believe that there are actually like Satanic cults that would 337 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:49.000 offer their own children into something like this. It makes 338 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:53.960 me want to literally throw up and cry at the 339 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:58.240 same time, Like it's unfathomable to me that they consider 340 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:03.440 it an honor to almost raise their kids into this 341 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.839 and then it's like eyes wide shut at the end. 342 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.039 It's like an honor for them to raise their kid 343 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.319 into this and then kind of like auction them off 344 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.839 to the highest bidder, because that's the privilege of being 345 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.400 a part of this cult. Is like you know what's coming. 346 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.519 It's like they're raised for the slaughter almost and it 347 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:31.000 is absolutely stomach churning. It's sickening, just like. 348 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.720 The Canaanites and the Phoenicians killing their own children, feeding 349 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.680 them with the moloc fire, you know, putting a mask 350 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.480 on the on the kids, and the crying mother there 351 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:43.680 with a smiley face. 352 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:44.160 You know. 353 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:49.799 It's really deep and dark and super dark. 354 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.000 And that's what's said. 355 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:54.279 Oh go ahead, William. 356 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.599 I was just gonna say, like, for people who don't know, 357 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:01.279 there's a weird connection of the Ramsey family to Oak Island, 358 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:03.799 and Charlot Boy is at the very north, so like 359 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.440 when the summer comes, Michigan isn't cold anymore, so people 360 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:09.759 go to the north in summer, so they would go, 361 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.240 but Oak Island is like ten miles away. And that 362 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.519 is a very well known case, very well studied, connected 363 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:19.039 to the Oak Island murders that happened in Detroit back 364 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:22.599 when Detroit was a functioning city and super dark, like 365 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.599 elite pedophile networks right like, and people who went to 366 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.400 one guy fled to the Netherlands and never got caught. 367 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:34.000 And that then Ramsey, Bennett Ramsey, that's John Bannay's dad. 368 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:39.559 His dad was involved in like putting together the this 369 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:44.079 is already verified. He's putting together the landing place or whatever, 370 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.759 the airport for Oak Island and Charlotte Boy is like 371 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.160 right there. So actually, my understanding, according to the information 372 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:53.640 I got today is after the death of John Bennet, 373 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:58.319 the dad and the mom went to Charlotte Boy. Like 374 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.920 that's why they went. They went right now. He death 375 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:01.559 in December. 376 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.640 It's like I said, it's it's like an honor for 377 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:10.480 them too. Because Patsy was in the pageant system her 378 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.519 whole life. People talked about her being in the pageant 379 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.640 system coming from like some old Virginia money, some you know, 380 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:23.119 rich people, fud time crazy, you know, satanic cults, underground 381 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:28.200 network thing probably, but it's speculating, speculating. 382 00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.480 Do you think that she was part of the abuse system? 383 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:31.160 Do you think the mother? 384 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:34.359 I absolutely do, I absolutely do. 385 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:39.559 My opinion that she was like auctioned off and he 386 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.319 was the purchaser like he was. It was a gift. 387 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:43.680 She was a gift to him. 388 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:46.839 Yes, to make a breeding. 389 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:50.119 Situation, that's super much. That's a second wife too, right, 390 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:50.839 second wife. 391 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.279 Yeah, I have a strange imagination. It's just my imagination. 392 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.880 Well, think about this, Okay, think about this. This is 393 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:01.000 my hypothesis. This is Julia talking, not William, not Sean. 394 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:05.000 This is my opinion. I own this. This is my hypothesis. 395 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:10.759 There was a Christmas party, Christmas Eve party thrown at 396 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.799 one of the elite of Moulder, Colorado Society. His name 397 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:19.720 is Fleet White. Okay, So Patsy and John take their 398 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:24.680 two children to this party, this Christmas Eve party, and 399 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.599 at some point a nine to one to one call 400 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:32.079 was placed. Okay, they won't say what the nine one 401 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.359