Speaker 1: Happy Friday, guys. Welcome into PUK time on wager Talk TV.
Andrew and carm I'm with you to break down every
single game on the board today in the NHL, prop sides, totals,
whatever it is, we'll look at it for you, guys.
We'll discuss it and take a look at these games
here and at the end of the show, it's a
Q and A guys.
Speaker 2: Drop your comments, drop your questions.
Speaker 1: Could be a statement, could be your thoughts on a team,
good or bad. We want you guys to be heard.
We want your thoughts out there, so pop them in.
We'll make sure we save them for the end of
the show and we'll get you guys' questions answered. Also,
a big day tomorrow, so any questions maybe about some
look ahead spots or teams, we'll get to those as well.
But Carmen, was a busy day in the NHL on
Thursday and now we have a handful of games here
on Friday.
Speaker 2: Man, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good, man, I'm enjoying my Starbucks. Go Jay's Go Yankees.
Once you put the Yankees laugh my ass off. I'm
not sure why, but maybe she's not a Yankees fan anyways,
Jay's win tons of NHL football with two geriatric quarterbacks
in there. It was a great night of sports all across.
But dear God, Andrew, I gotta say it, man, I'm
going to complain. I posted a video of the old
man yelling at clouds. I'm gonna do that every Friday
morning when I'm pissed off about stuff or just random thoughts.
But Anton Forsburg in goal for the LA Kings yesterday,
what's wrong with that guy? That was horrible? Man, I
just don't know. It's just they get out to too
nothing lead. I'm like, Okay, the pod is looking good.
I'm pretty happy. I have the same play for clients.
Looking good and Boom goes to dynamite. He goes the
other way. He plays absolutely brutal, allows three goals that
should have never gone in empty netter. I lose that one.
We move on to the next day. No pod play today, guys,
only four games. We're gonna discuss three of them today, Tampa, Detroit, Minnesota, Washington,
Vancouver and Chicago. And we're gonna have some time left,
so we want to do a question and answer. We're
gonna if you have a question for us, whether it's
sites that we might use thought processes look ahead games.
Drop him in the comments section. We will try and
pick him up. Andrew's very good at that stuff. I
can't multitask. You're much better at that, Andrew. But with
that said, should we head to the first game.
Speaker 1: Let's dive in. Let's dive into it and we get
the The chat room is bumping right now. I feel
like Friday is always a goofy day here on puck time.
So let's dive in. Let's get to the first game,
and carm I just want to say that yesterday was
a dog day. And I'm gonna just preface it. There's
a couple of favorites I like here today on the board.
Here we'll start things off with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Looking at this Tampa Bay Lightning team, and I'm just
gonna throw this out here that I've been involved in
four Tampa Bay Lightning games this season. I think I
have bet all of the games the Tampa Bay Lightning
are in this season. Opener around minus one fifty three,
not really too much movement, pinnacles showing one forty two.
But at the end of the day, here, Karm, you
cashed an underdog ticket on the Detroit Red Wings the
other day, as did Brian. Couple straight wins for this team.
But I think this is a spot where I go
right back on Tampa and at the end of the
day when I'm gonna be fading Tampa, I don't think
their goaltending has improved that much. You know, Talbots looked good. Gibson,
I think he's too old. Now this is a team
total I like here, guys, back to the old spots
here where I love the plus one oh five, the
plus one ten with the team totals arrested. Tampa Bay
Lightning team. A frustrated Tampa Bay Lightning team. They led
their whole game the other day and they just finally
let that slip away and they lost in overtime, karm.
So they won't be happy whatsoever. When you look at
some of these scores here for them, you know, kind
of a tough start when it comes down to like
consistency levels. They lose against the Lightning or the Senators,
they lose against the Devils, and then you see them
finally get that four spot on the Lightning on the Bruins,
oh my god. And then of course they go ahead
against the Capitols and they.
Speaker 2: Have a flat spot defensively.
Speaker 1: This is to me, I think going to be a
bounce back offensive spot. When the Lightning are at their
true identity this year, they're going to be an offensive team.
So when I'm looking at these games right now, it's
very similar to what I said yesterday about Vegas. I
don't think there's any games that Tampa have played so
far that they're really going to say they've been proud
of because when you look at that game against the
Boston Bruins, although they scored four goals, they still almost
let the Bruins come back. So when we want to
talk about motivation, this team, I think, out of the
entire board today should have a ton of motivation carve.
They've scored some goals this year, but they haven't really
played that great of hockey. Is all I'm trying to
say here in a long winded way, Tampa team total
sign me up, all right.
Speaker 3: I watched John Cooper talk post game and talk about
his last back to back, so this is the first
of two back to backs. He said, we're playing some
very good hockey. The game against the Washington Capitals that
they lose in ot they lost a Krozier early on
in the first period, down to five defense man. Very
tough thing to do against the Washington Capitals is play
the rest of the game with five d He won't
be back tonight, but obviously they're going to fill that
role for him. You know, these games in Detroit tend
to be low scoring ones between these two teams, and
I'm not huge on taking first period totals as far
as unders go, Andrew, this is one where it's like
plus one oh five, and I can see it a
tight game. If it blows up, it blows up and
I stop watching the game. But with that said, I'm
willing to take the plus one oh five and we're
gonna see Basileski in goal and Gibson and goal. Gibson
wasn't very good in that in that five to one
defeat to the Montreal Canans in his in his first start,
so we'll see if he's better in this one now, Andrew,
yesterday in chat and today in chat, I see people
saying where we're borke boycotting until we get to see
the bird. So I'm hoping not to get my hands
bitten up. I get my wife to pass the bird
on here, So there we go. Hello, hold on, there
he is. There's the guy who you guys say, I
don't feed, I overfeed him. His name is Sonny, named
after Chas Paulmentary from Bronx Tail. Uh and uh he's
a little gangster. So there you go. You guys have
all seen Sonny and now we can get onto. Uh.
I'm gonna get him to do my college basketball players
this year. So he is no, no kidding aside. He
is a he is a high bred mixed He's a
sun cheek canoe. And they learn words, Andrew, they learned
to speak. So he's learning some bad ones from me
from last night. I'm pretty sure I heard him say
f Forsburg. But I digress under for me in this game, Andrew,
first period, the full game total sits at six and
that's one of those numbers that he could very well
land on. So I don't want to take over under.
Probably a good game to end game. Bet. Now with
that said, Andrew Washington Capital's Minnesota. When you look at
the travel schedules for these two teams and it's early
in the season, Washington is just basically they it's a
bus ride for them to every single every one of
their four games, whether it was a two home games
going into New York, it's been an easy schedule for
them through four games. I saw I was watching the
show yesterday at an NHL show and Carberry was on it,
and man, that guy is such a well spoken individual.
He's doing a fantastic job with this team. And they're
off to a good start, and they're playing some very
good defense. And now they're playing the Minnesota Wild tonight.
And this is another one, Andrew from from my perspective
and looking at the totals where I'd likely want to
take the under these two teams last season. You look
at the total sits at five and a half. Looking
at the Odds Logic board, there these are two teams
last year that even though there were six goals scoring
one game I think seven and the other, the extreme
numbers in those games were three point seven to three
and five point sixty three. Obviously, those numbers are the
kind of numbers I want when I'm betting unders. It
doesn't mean that what happened last year is going to
happen this year between these two teams. But this is
a Washington team that's playing some very good defense at
at the moment, and that showed against Tampa Bay the
Lightning because the Lightning can fill the net with pucks,
and Washington kept them out absolutely and winning that one
in ot three to two. So I'm leaning under here,
but it's juiced to the over quite a bit, which
means that a six might eventually pop up in this game.
So I'm gonna wait throughout the day and see if
a six pops up, and if it does, then I
am going to grab the six and go under the
total just to have that four to two empty net
buffer in my favor for a push.
Speaker 2: Hard to argue with Crime.
Speaker 1: Those two teams are both really good defensively and they
have no problem playing in defensive games. A lot of
times when those types of teams get together, it seems
like it's first two. You know, three goals can win
the game. I got to give a shout out to
Steve here. He says he's got to hop on a
work call, but thanks for being here, Steve, appreciate it. Yeah,
everybody in here is pretty fired up today for the
small card, and guys, it's going to be a massive
card tomorrow. Carm I can't talk you off the under
there on that one. But this is my dog of
the day. I do like this Minnesota Wild team. One
of the reasons I like the Minnesota Wild here today
is because of the power play advantage.
Speaker 2: This Minnesota Wild team.
Speaker 1: Their power play has just been unbelievable so far to
start the season off. And you know sometimes that you
notice a trend and you don't want to be too
late to the trend. Well, power play points there's always
really good, good odds for that. We've talked about it
that before. I gave it out a mccar power play
point prop I think earlier in the year. But I'm
just taking a look right now. This Minnesota Wild team.
They are first in the league in power play percentage
forty seven point six percent. As far as penalty kill
percentage is concerned, the Washington Capital's rank thirtieth in the
league at fifty five point six percent. Now, they don't
take a lot of penalties. The Capital is lucky enough
for them, but number one power play in the league.
And I think in the NHL you don't mess with trends.
You don't mess with them. With rhythm right now, and
this Capital's team with capriz off and how well they're playing.
As Perlow is in here saying, right now, Rossi Caprizov
boldy be. I mean, these guys are unbelievable. And when
you look at the points, like caprizof point prop Boldie
is minus two zho five to get a regular point.
Right if you go down to the power play points,
he's plus one seventy five to get a power play point.
And I know that the only problem with these bets
is that you have to bank on a couple power
play opportunities. But right now this Minnesota team is dominant
on the power play. They're playing extremely well. And I
will say this Washington Capitol's team, they haven't really seemed
to have faced.
Speaker 2: Much adversity so far this year.
Speaker 1: They had that overtime win against the Tampa Bay Lightning,
and I was on them. I was happy to see it.
They had the one nothing win against the Rangers. The
Rangers didn't even score, you know, like it's hard to
really face adversity when your opponent doesn't really score.
Speaker 2: They win four to two against the Islanders. You know,
this is the team.
Speaker 1: I think there is going to have sort of a
spot here where they're a little overwhelmed by the Minnesota offense.
So Washington's a great team, but I do think that
they're going to be good here. And this is eight
M commenting this, and I probably promise you it's not
me Andrew McGinnis with this, but he says his system
play is bet against the team that won its past
three games while allowing a maximum of three goals in
each of those victories. If they're at at home today,
bet against them Capitals. All right, Well, I'm on that
as well. I like the Wild so carm three to
one Wild That okay with you?
Speaker 2: Do you mind that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I'd be fine with that. When Andrew
Washington washed redskin, probably wouldn't. He likes the Caps, and
I get it. Listen the thing, I have a very
good team. They proved it last year. We'll see what
they do this year. But they're off to a great
start and the travel schedule has definitely been in their favor.
He also said that the total of bet rivers is
a six for this game. I cannot play at Bette Rivers, Andrew.
I've been limited at Bette Rivers in Ontario if it
was bet Rivers, just because the books are licensed now
in Ontario and some of them, if you beat them,
they limit you right away. So I beat them on
soccer and they limited me across the board, which makes
absolutely no sense because I think I was losing in
some of the other sports, but they limited to me
on the Ontario Market's really weird. If you remember, and
Dan is in my ear, he will tell us. I
can't remember the name of the book, but Dan was
giving us lacrosse bets and he did so well on them,
and he was beating the line. Dan our producer that
they left the Ontario market because they were getting killed.
They left. They're no longer the Ontario market. Was it
cool bets?
Speaker 2: I think it might have been cool bet.
Speaker 1: Shut their ass down, karm shut their ass down.
Speaker 3: When your producer comes on and I'm telling you he
was giving us numbers, Dan, you were giving us plays.
Speaker 2: Wait, that was like, that was one of the best
runs we've had. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: We're beating totals by three four points. And then the
guy had to adjust as there got a guy.
Speaker 1: I got a guy fired at Camby when I first
started betting lacrosse. I got their lacrosse guy fired and
we shut down cool debt.
Speaker 2: Cool beat. Those are the two things on like my
gambler's resume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely amazing. I would put the play in when
Dan told us, and then I would message my friends
and then they would start betting it, and then you'd
watch the number just increase and increase. And we're not
talking about vig we're talking about the actual totals going
from like sixteen and a half to nineteen and a
half to twenty one and a half totals in games.
Then absolutely crush it. We love him. That's why he
needs his own show, which is called Burying the Bookie
with Alexander Burying the Bookieander Carl.
Speaker 1: I'll just add this though, too, is that, like I mean,
people always say, like, you know, the NFL is king
and all that, and of course the NFL is king,
but like I know so many people that actually only
bet on the NFL. But if you look at it
like sports like like lacrosse that people aren't paying attention to.
Besides Dan, that's where you can make your money, you know.
And I know that you've had success in Champions League soccer,
but I know you've also had your success in the
smaller division leagues as well, because it's it's the opportunity
to make money. So, uh, people love to bet the
prime time Sunday night football game.
Speaker 2: But how sharp are those lines with that right? Look
at crops?
Speaker 3: Absolutely sharp? And come on, man, the art you mean
of people who argue with me online and say, you know,
I only bet the best sports. I only bet college football, NFL,
I only bet baseball and basketball. Those are the same
guys that during the pandemic were betting Taiwanese and Japanese
ping pong at three o'clock in the morning because they
needed their fix. Well where was where was it back then?
So with that said, Andrew, let's go to something completely different.
Let's let's discuss a hockey game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got play tonight, don't you we gotta do?
You got to mention that, Yeah, well I have one.
Speaker 3: It's weird that I would have to u two plays
and two different sports in like a three day period,
But I have one in the NHL tonight and have
an NFL one on Sunday. And I did give you
guys a coupon code. I think it expires today Sunday ten.
It's ten dollars off that NFL one. We're on a
good run there and see the bird is telling you
guys to play it as well too, So I'm looking
forward to it. Maybe grab the three day all access
and get all plays three days. My wife is coming
in to get rid of the bird, so not eliminate him.
She just gave me thirty luck. She's like, I'm not
getting at them. With that said, Andrew, Vancouver Canucks minus
one forty six Chicago Blackhawks plus one twenty. Let me
throw a stat out out to you tonight, and who
does the bird like tonight? In this one? It might.
I don't think it likes the Blackhawks, but I do.
I'm going to take the black Hawks and plus one
twenty tonight. Why okay? Then goes in goal. Last night
they fall bying to nothing to come back and beat
the Dallas Stars. A fantastic performance by them, but it's
going to be lanking in tonight in the second of
a back to back. This just seems like a fishy
line to me with the Vancouver Canucks and minus one
forty three one forty six. But also, if you look
at the Vancouver Canucks last season in their back to backs,
they were one of the worst teams in the league
on back to backs, there were two and eight in
ten back to back situations. Their only wins came against
the Torontoway Beliefs and the Calgary Flames in the second
of a back to back. They lost the other eight.
So with that said, the Hawks at home plus one
twenty small dog, but probably a live dog after that
Dallas win by the Canucks yesterday. Can you talk me
off of it?
Speaker 2: No, I can't, Karm.
Speaker 1: I had Chris yesterday on my show, The Priest Scout
Chris Otto, and he loves the first period s, thought
it was great. If you guys haven't checked that out,
all kinds of great first period betting information and period
betting information altogether. I didn't realize, actually he's as into
the first period moneyline bets as he is with the totals, Karm,
And we're talking about situations. And I was excited because
yesterday I bet the Vancouver Canucks to get the job done.
I wanted to fade undefeated teams yesterday and back winless
teams yesterday. And I actually cashed a plus one forty
ticket on the Islanders and a plus one forty ticket
on the Canucks.
Speaker 2: So it was a really good day yesterday but I don't.
Speaker 1: Think it'll be as good of a day today for
the Canucks because they're going to be so fired up.
And this is what I was talking about earlier on
in the show, where it's like, you know, these teams,
they're playing eighty two games, so people will send in
me the flat spots can't be here. You know that
flat spots aren't a thing. It's only October seventeenth, but
I think they certainly can be here because you're so
fired up about how you played last night, can you
replicate that same performance? Then Carmine mentions the goaltending. I
mean when you said that, karm it speaks to me.
I do think maybe this could be a first period
spot for the Blackhawks. You know, catch the Vancouver Canucks sleeping,
maybe they get off to a really good start.
Speaker 2: And when I look at this number here.
Speaker 1: In the first period, as far as the plus half
goal minus one eighty eight, the money line is plus
one ten, I could easily see this team getting off
to a really good start. And it's funny because if
the Canucks were to have lost last night, I personally
think that we had a chance to see the first
period go under with them winning. They might come out
a little bit lazy defensively, and you know, just how
you keep on calling those Vegas first period overs which
you're spought on with last night, carm once again four goals.
The Blackhawks are a good first period over team as well,
because they're gonna give and they're gonna take. You know,
they are very good with their first period overs. They
start off hot, so lean towards the first period over
and lean towards plus one ten Blackhawks to win.
Speaker 2: The first period as well. I think it's gonna be
a good spot.
Speaker 1: But also one thing that worries me, Carl, I want
your thoughts on this, just to play the Teddy covers
Devil's advocate. Here are the Vancouver can a team that
they roll in waves, like they get momentum maybe from
last night. That could be one thing that worries me
is like, maybe they get that win last night and
they're feeling so good about themselves, they keep moving and
it's not flat. Who knows. I'll tell you what. I
did not look at the head to head matchup for
this one, and that doesn't make me really happy to
look at that one. Vancouver ten and O last ten
versus Chicago, so they're due.
Speaker 2: Yeah, number eleven tonight is it is?
Speaker 3: We joked around with press because Lawrence talked about like
he's had a slower start to the season, and I'm like, well,
you're due, It'll turn around. It's the If you guys
have never heard of the law of large numbers, look
it up. I say it all the time, which is
why I enjoy trying to remain even keel on these shows.
I'll mention unless if it's an extremely huge winning streak,
I will mention it. But if it's just a win streak,
I don't. I'm talking about myself, I don't mention it.
I talk about the bad beats more than anything else,
because a lot of large numbers will tell you that
someone who hits for a month, hits at like eighty
percent is going to have a bad month to bring
that back down to what the actual numbers should be
throughout the course of the year. If you're doing it
on a daily basis, I mean, if you're just picking
and choosing spots here and there, and only twenty NHL
plays in a season, you can hit eighty percent. But
that's not what plans are looking for. They just want
a high percentage of plays that win, even if it's
in the fifty five to sixty percentile. But with that said, yeah,
ten and oh, you never want to see a stat
like that. But you know, we've seen stats like that
before Boston and Washington. I think at one point, prior
to last season, the Bruins had I think one of
the teams had won like fourteen straight against the other team.
Those happen, but eventually, you I mean, we're talking about
a trend of of maybe five or six of those games,
or with players that don't even play in the NHL anymore.
So you have to Trends cannot be the only thing
you put your you base your handicapping, and you base
your bet on has to be I think you have
to involve analytics and present day analytics and analytics from
like five years ago. But with that said, we'll see
what happens. You know, Vancouver is a good team manager.
To answer your question very quickly, it's taken me a while.
Vancouver is a team that's gonna go in bigger ebbs
and flows instead of shorter ebbs and flows. They're gonna
win four or five in a row, they're gonna lose
two or three in a row, four in a row
at the end of the day. I don't think they're
gonna make the playoffs. That's I just think the Western
Conference is the better of the two conferences. A lot
of stacked teams in there, and it's gonna be very tough,
and there's probably gonna be one or two very good
teams that are on the outside looking in at the
end of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're gonna go in waves, but they might
not be able to pull it off the whole entire time,
so maybe they need to get their wins while they can.
This is gonna be one that's interesting to watch. I
feel like the Blackhawks right now. They're feeling good as well.
Young players, Frank Nazar, Ryan Donado, you know, Connor Bdard. Obviously,
this is the happiest I've seen Badard be since he
came into the league. By the way, guys, I mean,
the guy actually looks like he's having fun out there,
and finally the team is surrounding him with some younger
pieces around him. But Carl, not a lot of huge
plays for me tonight in the NHL, by any means,
not a lot of huge plays. We're gonna sprinkle, We're
gonna have some plays, but I just have one promo
that actually ends tonight at midnight, so I wanted to
bring this up really quick. We're up twenty three units
this regular season. Twenty three units. Guy, It's been in
a phenomenal start of the year, picking the spots, staying
selective but not being scared to fire. When I see
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Speaker 3: I like it, Andrew. I'm gonna answer a couple quick
questions that aren't really hockey related. They're show related more
than anything else. Tone Antoine, I think his name was asked.
Where I get the back to back stats from. I
do keep a database of it and update it pretty
much weekly, if not daily, throughout the year. But if
you go to the NHL website and you click on
their NHL Edge their Advanced Stats, you can run reports there.
I will say this, Andrew. They revamped the NHL website.
It is absolutely horrible. It is horrible, and I'm not
the only one. There's so many people that use that.
We're using that site that is just their interface. Whatever
they did is absolutely terrible. Bring back the old NHL
site from last year was much easier, And if you
guys can't find it there on Monday, go through the
NHL Edge and show you guys how to find back
to backs from last season and such so you can
see or you can see the teams on one day's
two days rest, three days rest, and see how they perform. Obviously,
the longer the season, the better. It is. Odds Logic
definitely the primo site to use right now if you
if you sort of pick and choose the books you
want to show up on the screen. But three or
four of the sharper books beat the numbers guys. They report.
Odds Logic is reporting injuries as they happen, you get
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free as well too. So what that said, Andrew. The
only other question is there a pod play today? There's
only four games, and quite honestly, other than the game
that I have up for clients, I don't like any
of the other games. You know, we've discussed some of them.
I will tell you this next week. Six and sixty
returns on Friday, and the Andrew McInnis parlay of the
I'm looking forward to the same game part of the
day returns. I will give you one little one that
I'm looking at tomorrow night, even though it's the Calgary
Flames in town, the Vegas Golden Knight's first period over.
It was a client play yesterday. I mentioned it on
the show. Last season, the first six games Vegas played
at home all went over the total. Ten of the
first twelve went over the total. And what did they
do last night? Four goals in the first period of
that game, I think, and it went over the total
and the viig is low. It was one twenty five
or one thirty, which for a total is good. Eventually
the BIG's going to catch up. So maybe think about
taking the over one and a half. Make that your
pod but it won't be an official pod play. Yes,
and you know, Jack Frost, my five percent play is
not on the Utah game. We just didn't discuss it
because it's Utah is like minus one million tonight or
whatever they are.
Speaker 2: And stuff.
Speaker 3: But maybe Utah goes over the team total tonight, Andrew
because they couldn't do it for me the other night.
And you know how it works. When it doesn't happen
the night that you have it, it happens the very
next game.
Speaker 2: Every time in every sport.
Speaker 3: It seems to be that way where your handicap is
right on just one week.
Speaker 1: Early every time I get it. That's why you got
to just go back to it every single time. Well,
if a team screws you, you know how it goes. Guys,
you bounce back with them the next time. And I've
been doing that with player props. If a guy screws
me with a shots or points, I go back to
them the next time round.
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