Speaker 1: Taboo science.
Speaker 2: When social psychologist Justin Leigh Miller surveyed more than four
Speaker 2: thousand Americans about their sexual fantasies, he noticed one overarching
Speaker 2: theme to the dirty stuff in our heads, breaking the
Speaker 2: rules is sexy. More accurately, he wrote, quote, the American
Speaker 2: ID is characterized by desires to break free from cultural
Speaker 2: norms and sexual restraints. End quote. You know, cultural norms
Speaker 2: like the idea that sex is only supposed to involve
Speaker 2: a penis in a vagina, that it's only for making babies,
Speaker 2: and that it's only to be done within a monogamous,
Speaker 2: heterosexual human marriage in private. But just like your parents
Speaker 2: telling you not to curse makes cursing irresistible, it seems
Speaker 2: as though society telling us that this is the only
Speaker 2: way sex should b makes a lot of things outside
Speaker 2: those requirements incredibly hot. This mini series has already covered
Speaker 2: many kinks like this. BDSM lets people play with the
Speaker 2: idea that a normal sex life should be gentle in
Speaker 2: between two equally empowered parties. Cuckholding plays with the idea
Speaker 2: that a normal relationship is monogamous and sex outside of
Speaker 2: that is a violation. Pop play and furry fetishes, and
Speaker 2: even age play toy with the assumed expectation that everyone
Speaker 2: in a sexual encounter should act like a grown human adult.
Speaker 2: The taboos around these kinks are what make them attractive
Speaker 2: to people, and today we're going to learn about seven
Speaker 2: other kinks that fit that category two. Because human sexuality
Speaker 2: is diverse, and understanding that diversity helps us understand each
Speaker 2: other a little better. I'm Ashley Hamer, and this is
Speaker 2: Taboo Science, the podcast that answers the questions you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to ask. For long time listeners, I need to
Speaker 2: preface this episode to say that it's going to be
Speaker 2: a little different from what you're used to. Many of
Speaker 2: these kinks have little to no scientific research behind them,
Speaker 2: let alone scientific experts who can explain them, so this
Speaker 2: episode will mostly just be me sharing what research I can.
Speaker 2: Remember that the sexual kinks and fetishes that get the
Speaker 2: most funding for research are the ones that are harmful
Speaker 2: or illegal, So when a group of people just has
Speaker 2: an unusual way they find sexual pleasure, there isn't a
Speaker 2: lot of funding available to study them, which is a tragedy.
Speaker 2: I think this podcast has taught me that when a
Speaker 2: member of a sexual minority can actually learn about themselves
Speaker 2: and people like them, they feel less shame and just
Speaker 2: generally greater well being overall. As sex worker and amateur
Speaker 2: researcher Aila said in an earlier episode.
Speaker 1: The complete silence on the topic made me feel like
Speaker 1: I was deeply fucked up and like completely alienated by
Speaker 1: society and like, wow, I am so unusual that people
Speaker 1: like won't even acknowledge my existence, Like it's I'm so
Speaker 1: rare that this isn't even worth being talked about. And
Speaker 1: I think there's something like that going on with sex research,
Speaker 1: sort of almost spiritually, like if you have a strange
Speaker 1: fetish and you want to know more about yourself, it's
Speaker 1: dead silence. Nobody knows anything, nobody's bothered to put in
Speaker 1: the effort or care to learn about people like you.
Speaker 1: And that's just like sad.
Speaker 2: So while I'll do my best to get research from
Speaker 2: peer reviewed articles, sometimes magazines, blogs and even Reddit are
Speaker 2: the best sources on these kinks, it's just the way
Speaker 2: the world is right now. And with that, I bring
Speaker 2: you kink number one. Exhibitionism and voyeurism. You've probably heard
Speaker 2: of these. Exhibitionism involves getting sexual arousal from exposing your
Speaker 2: genitals to a stranger and Voyeurism involves getting sexual arousal
Speaker 2: from secretly watching a stranger, undressing, being naked, or having sex.
Speaker 2: These are both considered paraphilias for a few reasons, most
Speaker 2: important of which is that they're done to someone else
Speaker 2: without their consent. Exhibitionism is the older of the two,
Speaker 2: at least in written records, since the earliest evidence we
Speaker 2: have of it dates back to the fifth century BC.
Speaker 2: That's when Greek historian Herodotus wrote about the wild party
Speaker 2: ships that would take people to this big festival. When
Speaker 2: these ships passed by neighboring towns, some of the women
Speaker 2: on board would flash the onlookers. We have always been
Speaker 2: the same. Exhibitionism was first described medically in eighteen seventy seven,
Speaker 2: but voyeurism didn't get its label until the late nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: Its medical definition has changed over the years, and in
Speaker 2: the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual
Speaker 2: of Mental Disorders, or the DSM, it was given an
Speaker 2: age limit. Voyeuristic disorder only counts as a disorder if
Speaker 2: you're at least eighteen. The idea here is that kids
Speaker 2: and teens are curious, and they might end up watching
Speaker 2: and maybe even being aroused by nudity or people having
Speaker 2: sex just because they haven't seen it before. But like
Speaker 2: so many kinks and fetishes out there, an interest in
Speaker 2: exhibitionism and voyeurism tends to start young. Studies find that
Speaker 2: about half of exhibitionists and voyeurs discover their interest before
Speaker 2: the age of eighteen. We don't know what causes it,
Speaker 2: but one theory about kinks in general is that some
Speaker 2: people are born with a predisposition for certain kinks, and
Speaker 2: it may just take a formative sexual experience like walking
Speaker 2: in on the babysitter changing to trigger a lifelong interest.
Speaker 2: Speaking of kids, it's important to mention that children are
Speaker 2: sometimes the targets of exhibitionism. There are three subtypes of
Speaker 2: exhibitionistic disorder, at least according to the DSM, A preference
Speaker 2: for exposing yourself to adults, to children, or to both.
Speaker 2: There aren't a ton of studies on how many there
Speaker 2: are of each, but one researcher in the seventies found
Speaker 2: that about twenty percent of his sample had exposed themselves
Speaker 2: to pre pubescent children. Not great. Also, the stereotype of
Speaker 2: your typical exhibitionist is a creepy old dude in a
Speaker 2: trench code, right. I mean, when you think of a
Speaker 2: person who gets off on exposing themselves, it's almost exclusively
Speaker 2: a man. Part of that is society. Women's bodies are
Speaker 2: seen as more sexually alluring in general than men's bodies,
Speaker 2: so it follows that only a man would have to
Speaker 2: force someone to look at him. But it turns out
Speaker 2: that plenty of women are exhibitionists too. In a Swedish
Speaker 2: study from two thousand and six, of the people who
Speaker 2: said that they had ever exposed their genitals to a
Speaker 2: stranger and been aroused by it, more than thirty percent
Speaker 2: or female. But this isn't all about exposing yourself in
Speaker 2: a park or hiding in the bushes outside a neighbor's window.
Speaker 2: Like many kinks that have potentially illegal elements, you can
Speaker 2: practice these ones safely and legally. Exhibitionists might enjoy having
Speaker 2: an agreement with a partner that they can send nudes
Speaker 2: at any time of day, so the shock of that
Speaker 2: person getting one during a work meeting can still pose
Speaker 2: a thrill. There's also OnlyFans, Reddit, porn Hub, many many,
Speaker 2: many places on the Internet where it is just fine
Speaker 2: to post explicit pictures of yourself for strangers to see. Voyeurs, meanwhile,
Speaker 2: can watch voyeur porn in which the whole conceit is
Speaker 2: that someone's watching without permission. Role Playing with a consenting
Speaker 2: partner is also totally an option. Sometimes that's not enough
Speaker 2: for people, which is totally understandable. If you're struggling with
Speaker 2: impulses that could get you arrested, it's always a good
Speaker 2: idea to find a kink aware therapist. Kink number two
Speaker 2: Financial domination. Financial domination is a form of BDSM that
Speaker 2: can involve no sex, no in person contact, and nothing
Speaker 2: sexual exchanged at all. Instead, financial submissives, usually men, will
Speaker 2: make payments to a financial dominatrix to get the same
Speaker 2: feeling of relinquishing control that any submissive does. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, a writer for Life Hacker talk to a
Speaker 2: financial dominatrix also known as a finn doom goddess, money dom,
Speaker 2: money mistress, or cash master about what kinds of things
Speaker 2: men ask in return for their payments to her. Every
Speaker 2: customer is different, she said. Quote. Some want a gentle
Speaker 2: mommy dom to talk sweetly with. Others want a raging
Speaker 2: bitch to boss them around and demand money. End quote.
Speaker 2: Some pay to do humiliating tasks or pay to be
Speaker 2: blackmailed by her. Others just wanted to send them a
Speaker 2: voice message. In twenty twenty one, a writer for The
Speaker 2: Independent talked to a finn sub or financial sub about
Speaker 2: why he enjoys financial submission. Quote. The arousal factor comes
Speaker 2: from the thought of the dom invading the personal space
Speaker 2: that is your finances. People measure their self worth with
Speaker 2: their money. It's intimacy in a very capitalistic and masochistic way. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: a submissive hands over his money to a dom because
Speaker 2: he wants to use her as a tool to access
Speaker 2: some emotions that provide him with a chemical high that
Speaker 2: only comes from feeding his addiction to self destructive behavior.
Speaker 2: End quote. This isn't always a purely harmless practice. Many
Speaker 2: finn subs have low self esteem and have troubled talking
Speaker 2: to romantic interests in real life, so they may be
Speaker 2: easy targets for fraudsters who are more in it for
Speaker 2: the money than the sexual gratification. In fact, according to
Speaker 2: Chuck Petco, an addiction counselor who started one of the
Speaker 2: internet's first support groups for people suffering from financial domination addiction,
Speaker 2: the practice has led some men to lose everything the
Speaker 2: way they might with a gambling addiction. The shame and
Speaker 2: suffering that results from maxing out a credit card or
Speaker 2: taking out a second mortgage is just yet another turn on,
Speaker 2: and it keeps them in a vicious cycle. Like with
Speaker 2: garden variety BDSM. There are responsible fin doms and there
Speaker 2: are quote unquote fake fin doms. Real fin dooms spend
Speaker 2: years honing their online personas and the skills that make
Speaker 2: them attractive to subs. For someone who wants to go
Speaker 2: this route, a little internet research is probably better than
Speaker 2: going with the first dom who pops up. Kink Number three.
Speaker 2: Wet and messy fetish, which is sometimes written as WAM.
Speaker 2: This is a fetish where people get off I'm getting messy,
Speaker 2: whether that's with food like cakes and pies, whipped cream,
Speaker 2: baked beans or oatmeal, or non food items like slime,
Speaker 2: mud shaving cream, lotion, or even motor oil. For some
Speaker 2: wet and messy fetishists, even getting their clothes wet can
Speaker 2: be a turn on. When it involves food, this fetish
Speaker 2: is known as sploshing. Wet and messy fetishes are different
Speaker 2: from fetishes for bodily fluids like pea and vomit. The
Speaker 2: appeal is less in the disgust of the mess and
Speaker 2: more in the tactile sensations, or the delight in seeing
Speaker 2: someone be degraded by a pie to the face. The
Speaker 2: fetish can sometimes overlap with sileerophilia, where a person gets
Speaker 2: sexual gratification by making the object of their desired dirty,
Speaker 2: dunking them in mud, ripping their clothes, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: This fetish, like others, can start young. I mean, what
Speaker 2: kid doesn't like jumping in mud puddles or throwing food
Speaker 2: Despite what parents might say, there's a violation inherent in
Speaker 2: dirty yourself when you're supposed to stay clean, and that
Speaker 2: can rev someone's engine. In an interview I found from
Speaker 2: the leather Addie account on Medium, one wet and Messy
Speaker 2: fetishist recalled walking around construction sites with another kid when
Speaker 2: he was six years old. He said, quote, we walked
Speaker 2: around in the mud and I got in pretty muddy.
Speaker 2: It wasn't anything sexual at that point, but I remember
Speaker 2: it as his mom yelled at me forgetting her kid
Speaker 2: all muddy. End quote. When he was around ten, it
Speaker 2: started to become a sexual thing. He'd go out alone,
Speaker 2: splash around in the mud, masturbate and then feel a
Speaker 2: ton of shame. Afterward, as he got older, he experimented
Speaker 2: with paint, food, and motor oil. If you've never heard
Speaker 2: of this kink, you may have unknowingly watched some of
Speaker 2: it on TikTok. Those videos of beautiful women using their
Speaker 2: well manicured hands to slap wet chicken breasts into a
Speaker 2: casserole dish full of dry pasta or spread peanut butter
Speaker 2: on a countertop to demonstrate a bizarre recipe that gets
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of views. Yeah, while no creators have
Speaker 2: confirmed they're making wet and messy fetish videos, there's a
Speaker 2: large contingent online that believes that's how they started, and
Speaker 2: then the engagement was so good they just kept going.
Speaker 2: Kink number four. Fat fetish and feederism. A fat fetish
Speaker 2: or a dipophilia is an attraction to overweight or obese
Speaker 2: people because of their size. Feederism, also known as gaining,
Speaker 2: is when someone gets sexual gratification from gaining or helping
Speaker 2: others gain body fat. Fat fetishism is a primarily heterosexual
Speaker 2: fetish focusing on fat women and thinner men, though there
Speaker 2: are plenty of gay men who have the fetish too,
Speaker 2: and probably gay women, but research never seems to talk
Speaker 2: about them. So while I can't find any peer reviewed
Speaker 2: statistics on it, a sex research site called bed Bible
Speaker 2: claims that one in fourteen men and one in one
Speaker 2: hundred women have a fat fetish. Fat fetishism is a
Speaker 2: tricky gray area because of society's views of fat people
Speaker 2: as a reditor in R plus size put it quote,
Speaker 2: assuming that everyone attracted to fat bodies has a fetish
Speaker 2: is fat phobic, and a lot of us have internalized
Speaker 2: fat phobia. That manifest says not believing anyone can be
Speaker 2: attracted to us without some kind of kink or fetish
Speaker 2: end quote. In other words, just because you're attracted to
Speaker 2: a fat person doesn't mean you have a fat fetish.
Speaker 2: It rises to the level of fetish when the fantasy
Speaker 2: becomes a load bearing part of your sexuality. You can't
Speaker 2: really get sexual gratification without it. Feederism is different. Instead
Speaker 2: of being attracted to a person's size, someone with this
Speaker 2: kink is excited by the prospect of weight gain. Here's
Speaker 2: a description of it from Phoebe, a social media site
Speaker 2: for feeders and feeds. Quote. Feeders are men or women
Speaker 2: who like the idea or physical act of helping someone
Speaker 2: else grow bigger. Feeders may be any size, fat or thin,
Speaker 2: and some feeders also identify as feeds. Feeders exist along
Speaker 2: a wide spectrum, from people who just want to cook
Speaker 2: for someone and provide moral support to those who enjoy
Speaker 2: quote forcing a feede to eat copious amounts, this is
Speaker 2: always a consensual act. Feeder is typically a label used
Speaker 2: in the straight community. In the gay community, feeders are
Speaker 2: typically called encouragers end quote. As far as feeds, the
Speaker 2: site explains that they come in all shapes and sizes,
Speaker 2: with a wide variety of fantasies. Some put on large
Speaker 2: amounts of weight, some just fantasize about it and role
Speaker 2: play through padding or inflating their clothes. For some feeds,
Speaker 2: the idea of becoming unhealthy or even immobile is part
Speaker 2: of the turn on, but for most, the focus is
Speaker 2: on staying healthy while growing bigger, which is totally possible.
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Speaker 2: lactation fetish, also known as lactophilia, erotic lactation, or breast
Speaker 2: milk fetishism, is where someone, usually a man, gets pleasure
Speaker 2: from watching women lactate, sucking on women's lactating breasts, or
Speaker 2: having sex with lactating women. This fetish has some crossover
Speaker 2: with the adult baby diaper lover community since breastfeeding is
Speaker 2: an activity for babies, and a separate crossover with pregnancy
Speaker 2: fetishes where individuals are attracted to pregnant people. In fact,
Speaker 2: a twenty eleven study of over two thousand lactation fetishists
Speaker 2: found that seventy one percent reported both a pregnancy and
Speaker 2: a lactation preference. That study also found that the majority
Speaker 2: of participants had younger siblings, which suggests that, yet again,
Speaker 2: this fetish may have imprinted itself sometime early in life
Speaker 2: when they were exposed to pregnant women and saw breastfeeding
Speaker 2: in action. I can also say from personal experience that
Speaker 2: pregnancy and breastfeeding subreddits are places where photos are stolen
Speaker 2: and reposted on fetish sites constantly. It's never happened to me,
Speaker 2: but at points in my life when I regularly read
Speaker 2: these forums, it seems like every week someone reports finding
Speaker 2: their photos reposted. Here's that consent thing again. There's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with an attraction, a kink or a fetish, but
Speaker 2: it crosses the line when it violates someone else's consent.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of purpose made lactation fetish porn out there anyway.
Speaker 2: Not only that, but some countries even have lactation bars.
Speaker 2: A twenty eighteen paper by heidij Nast reported on five
Speaker 2: bonyu or lactation bars in Tokyo. These bars hire young
Speaker 2: lactating women who will do everything from express their breast
Speaker 2: milk into a cup for drinking to allowing patrons to breastfeed,
Speaker 2: often caressing them and making motherly cooing sounds while they
Speaker 2: do it. But breastfeeding can also happen in the context
Speaker 2: of a relationship. Adult nursing relationships or an RS involve
Speaker 2: either a woman who was previously pregnant and naturally lactating,
Speaker 2: or one who actively worked to induce lactation, which fun fact,
Speaker 2: men can do too, and this isn't all solely for
Speaker 2: the non lactating partner. The nipples are an erogenous zone,
Speaker 2: and in the right sexual context, some women can reach
Speaker 2: orgasm from the stimulation they receive. Kink number six. Europhilia
Speaker 2: or the pea fetish. Europhilia, also known as eurolagnia or
Speaker 2: being into water sports, golden showers, or piss play, is
Speaker 2: when someone gets sexual pleasure from peeing on someone or
Speaker 2: being peed on. This fetish can also encompass bathing in urine,
Speaker 2: smelling someone in urine soaked clothes, or drinking someone's urine,
Speaker 2: whether from a container or directly from the source. According
Speaker 2: to Justin Leaymiller's survey of people's fantasies, this fetish is
Speaker 2: more popular among men than women, and among gay and
Speaker 2: bisexual people than heterosexual. Eight percent of heterosexual women and
Speaker 2: nineteen percent of heterosexual men reported fantasizing about this in
Speaker 2: the survey, while twenty percent of gay and bisexual women
Speaker 2: and forty percent of gay and bisexual men said they
Speaker 2: have still This was people who had ever fantasized about
Speaker 2: the practice. Many many fewer fantasized about it. Often, this
Speaker 2: fetish can have a lot of different reasons for its appeal.
Speaker 2: It's a popular one in BDSM, since being peed on
Speaker 2: or being forced to drink pea is degrading and humiliating,
Speaker 2: which is very hot for some people. There's also a
Speaker 2: taboo element, both to the fluid itself and to the
Speaker 2: act of losing control of your bladder and allowing your
Speaker 2: body to release fluids that you're supposed to keep under control.
Speaker 2: And finally, for some, it's just a dictionary definition fetish.
Speaker 2: The site, smell, feel, or taste of pea has come
Speaker 2: to be associated with sexual arousal. Men's Health asked a
Speaker 2: bunch of water sports enthusiasts why they were into it,
Speaker 2: and a few more reasons popped up. Some said it
Speaker 2: was a particularly intimate form of kink play since it's
Speaker 2: coming directly from a partner's body. Another said there was
Speaker 2: something particularly sexy about seeing pea come out of a
Speaker 2: vulva they don't typically ejaculate like penises. And finally, there's
Speaker 2: the sensation quote pissing during sex is warm, wet, and squelchy.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like that end quote? Finally, we come to
Speaker 2: the final kink kink number seven, voor or vorophelia. This
Speaker 2: is where people get sexual gratification from the fantasy of
Speaker 2: devouring others, being devoured or seeing someone be devoured. Like
Speaker 2: many kinks, this one doesn't always have to be sexual.
Speaker 2: Some people just have a deep fascination with things being
Speaker 2: eaten without a sexual element. Vore comes in two types
Speaker 2: or flavors, if you will. Soft bore involves being swallowed
Speaker 2: alive and whole, sometimes left unharmed, like Jonah and the
Speaker 2: Whale or The Grandma and Little Red riding Hood. There
Speaker 2: are actually a surprising number of children's stories that involves
Speaker 2: hard war is also sometimes known as sexual cannibalism and
Speaker 2: involves ripping apart a victim piece by piece as they're devoured.
Speaker 2: There's no coming back from hard war. War has overlaps
Speaker 2: with a ton of other kinks and communities. Macro or
Speaker 2: microphilia is a big one that is an attraction to
Speaker 2: unrealistically large or small individuals, since being much larger than
Speaker 2: your victim is helpful in making var fantasies possible. There's
Speaker 2: also a large overlap with the furry community and their
Speaker 2: interest in animal characters, since predator and pre dynamics are
Speaker 2: common in the animal world. There are also some overlaps
Speaker 2: with pregnancy fetishism, as many vorophiles focus on the pregnant
Speaker 2: look of an individual's belly after consuming their victim, and
Speaker 2: with unbirthing, which involves being sucked back up into the
Speaker 2: birth canal. Finally, there can be overlaps with coprophilia or
Speaker 2: a poop fetish, as some people prefer when victims are
Speaker 2: fully digestive and excreted it out. Unlike the other kinks
Speaker 2: on this list, voor is very difficult and usually impossible
Speaker 2: to actually experience in real life, though it's happened in
Speaker 2: at least one high profile criminal case. Armand Maivus, a
Speaker 2: German Man who had role played this fantasy with various
Speaker 2: partners until he met a man who actually consented to
Speaker 2: being killed and eaten by him. Sometimes the fantasy act
Speaker 2: is violent or vengeful, but often it's loving. Part of
Speaker 2: the appeal of this kink is the deep intimacy of
Speaker 2: having someone's entire body inside of you, or vice versa.
Speaker 2: Many fantasy stories published online include vivid descriptions of how
Speaker 2: the willing victim felt every inch of their bodies being
Speaker 2: touched and held snugly in the throat as they were
Speaker 2: swallowed as Reddit user Sucki Mimbavron put it, think of
Speaker 2: it like cuddling taken to the extreme. So there it is.
Speaker 2: Seven kinks that prove just how wild and varied human
Speaker 2: sexuality can be. From getting off on flashing strangers to
Speaker 2: fantasizing about being someone's lunch, we've covered a lot of ground.
Speaker 2: Some of the stuff might sound pretty out there if
Speaker 2: you're not into it, but as long as everyone's a
Speaker 2: consenting adult and nobody's getting hurt, unless, of course you're
Speaker 2: into that, there's no reason to yuck someone else's yum.
Speaker 2: Learning about these different kinks isn't just about satisfying a
Speaker 2: morbid curiosity. It's about building empathy and breaking down the
Speaker 2: shame around less mainstream sexual interests. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, the more we understand about human sexuality and
Speaker 2: all its weird and wonderful forms, the better equipped we
Speaker 2: are to navigate these topics without being judgmental jerks. Because
Speaker 2: judgment and shame are some of the biggest hazards for
Speaker 2: people in these communities, and there's no reason for it.
Speaker 2: So let's all try to be a little more understanding.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Big thanks to me Ashley Hamer, who
Speaker 2: thought this solo episode would be a break from all
Speaker 2: the work of interviewing and ended up writing nearly nine
Speaker 2: thousand words. It was, in fact, way more work. Are
Speaker 2: you into any of these kinks and fetishes or any
Speaker 2: that I've covered so far? I want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Head to podline, dot fm slash Taboo Science and leave
Speaker 2: me a voice memo, and I'd love to play it
Speaker 2: on a future episode. Also, as this mini series wraps up,
Speaker 2: I'm considering turning the tables and airing an interview with
Speaker 2: me all about what I learned, how I found people
Speaker 2: to talk about this stuff, the most controversial episodes, that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Would you be into that? Can you
Speaker 2: let me know by tweeting at Taboo Science or emailing
Speaker 2: me at Ashley at Taboo Science dot show. I'd like
Speaker 2: to do it, but only if you want it consent right.
Speaker 2: The next and so far final episode has been my
Speaker 2: personal white whale for this podcast, the Science of foot Fetishes.
Speaker 2: Are all foot fetishists creeps? Or are they just misunderstood?
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I hope you tune in. I won't
Speaker 2: tell anyone m