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we had some All Star break stuff in But last
seven days I think including.
Speaker 3: Last seven days.
Speaker 2: That's a good question, Bogman. Does our last seven day
one include seven days before the All Star Game or
how does that work?
Speaker 3: It's just the last seven calendar days. That's why the
numbers are down.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, So it's just essentially from the weekend.
Some struggling guys, there's some injuries that are floating out.
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When's the last time you and me did a baseball
show on Pros. I want to say it's three or
four years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while. I jumped on a couple
leading offs when I think somebody was out. I can't
remember who.
Speaker 2: It was a while PIPA most likely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably was Joe. It might have been Yeah,
I don't know. Maybe he was sick. I can't remember.
And I and I filled in for him a couple
of times. But I haven't been on like much baseball content.
I did a show with Joe Rico before the season started,
and I think that was my last pros baseball content
that I've done.
Speaker 2: Well, because I mean, there's a lot of weird with it,
and definitely not going to do the whole thing. But
like obviously, if if you're under a rock, you know
Joe is no longer with Fantasy Pros, which you know
sucks as from a friend perspective where you know, all
besties and stuff that sucks, but also from the work perspective,
like the one of the reasons behind it is Joe
is no longer un leading off, so you know they're
they're kind of working through those things. But the the
interesting part about like your perspective is like it was
always me and Joe for essentially the first half of
the season, and then like two or three years ago,
Rico would kind of pop on. But then when it
was time, you know where, Joe would kind of come
off a little bit, and then I would slowly come off.
That's the worst time for you, because that would be
like college football. Bogman would do some NFL college football,
the betting stuff. What am I forgetting here? I feel
like I'm forgetting something. I mean college football. You have
been like the practically the face of the fantasy pros
for the last couple of years, so it just never
worked out or made sense. But Bogman's slinging up some
of the versatility and you're pinch hitting in that which
which works well.
Speaker 3: As I I'll be on some more too, a lot more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're gonna be on more I think for the
next like month and a half or whatever. It's just
like Bogman's doing baseball.
Speaker 3: The whole Mondays Wednesdays are for sure, me uh, Fridays
are like half and half.
Speaker 2: So but you know, it does like we miss Joe.
I've been talking with Joe, you know again. I'm like,
it's weird because we didn't have like an official talk
on this show, but we I also did like a
full thing on leading off about it, you know, and
as much as like is warranted to talk about but like,
you know, all I could say here is like, yeah,
it just sucks. It's my friend, you know, and it's
a it's a bummer, and it obviously like creates all
this like kind of chaos around and stuff like that.
And hopefully we're gonna be talking with Joe here soon
because I think Joe is going to be launching up
some stuff heavy football and whatever. But yeah, I don't
get it twisted, you know, like I we still love Joe, yes, miss,
I've had two different long phone conversations with him in
the last week and stuff, and you know, there's me
and him have been laughing about some things because there
was you know, like like I guess I could say
this here, there was like me missing this day and
people thought there was some connection and there's not. And
we were laughing about where like the horrible irony of it.
Speaker 3: But people were trying to blame you as well, like
people just didn't know.
Speaker 2: People were like, oh, you know because I missed like
the show before, uh and I never missed shows and
it was it was a total accident that had happened,
but it also was a total coincidence. So me and
him kind of like laughed about some of those things.
And that's a good thing to know. Is Joe still laughing,
He's still doing his thing. Joe is you know, gonna
be Joe strong and everything like that. But today it
intertwined until the first time. And god, I mean, I
guess you and I've done some football ones together, but
when it's been me and Bogman, it has been at
least three years, I think, because I did a little
bit of college football hosting, and I think you and
I did one solo one time, so that was kind
of a new thing.
Speaker 3: I remember that to.
Speaker 2: Remember when well, it was like you, me and I
don't remember who was the guy. It wasn't like or no,
it wasn't for It was the other guy, the Taco
bell guy. Oh his buddy yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
I think like he didn't make one or whatever, and
it was like you and me or whatever. So it's
been a long time since you and I had done something,
But there is an episode out there we would laugh
about that guy did a show from like Taco Bell
or something.
Speaker 3: Many times once.
Speaker 2: We always laughed about that, but uh yeah, trying to
you know, trying to keep positive about all those things.
And one of the nice things was Bog and I
were together. So there are a few things that we
did talk about in leading off that kind of translate
over one of being which I am utterly in shock
at what the Red Sox are doing. Thirteen straight. I
gave off this stat and leading off it's like the
first time since like the eighteen hundreds where teams playing
today combined for more than a twenty game streak and
at least seven wins because they're playing the Orioles who
are on a big streak. But dude, I was doing
like I did like two or three CBS hits last week,
and multiple of them on the TV side were about
the Boston Red Sox, and it's like, to me, it's
the most shocking thing ever, because dude, it was like
pitchforks in Boston. People wanted Breslo's head. They're screwed up.
Every trade, people are staring at Devers success and Kyle
Harrison working out and.
Speaker 3: Well, you remember screen interview with the guy earlier in
the year, The Red Sox fan with the thick, thick
Boston accent. He's like, one of the odds this team
makes the playoffs, and he's like, I don't know, probably
not very good right now. And the other big dude
comes up with a thick Boston accent. I tell you, no,
f and way, this team makes the damn playoffs. The
socks it done. Preslo needs to be fired immediately. I
mean he was going off. You don't remember that.
Speaker 2: I kind of like vaguely remember it. But we need
that guy. We need that guy to come back in.
But I don't know, it's it's more of a baseball
d the type of thing. But I'm very pro will
you're of BRAIDI right now. You and I just did
a video for Pros, a trade video where I'm trying
to buy up a bray you. He's his babbib's low,
his production's been high. He's the highest war hitter there.
If they make trades, because now it doesn't look like
they're gonna trade away guys. Doesn't look like Sunny Gray
is gonna go away, doesn't look like Chapman's gonna go away.
They're gonna buy, and I think they're gonna buy bats.
I think that's the I think they they could even
use Jeron Duran and Christian Campbell's assets, but I think
they're gonna buy and it's only gonna help build around them.
But yeah, it's just a trippy thing to me to
see the negativity that surrounded all of it to where
it's at now and then being the hottest team in
baseball and them capturing, by the way, they captured a
a playoff spot right now, they are in it, all right,
So here is this the video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be some cursing. So just so everybody knows, Okay, this.
Speaker 2: Guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Five percent chance that's fucking wrong.
Speaker 2: Fucking zero.
Speaker 3: That's it. They're not making no fucking playoffs with this
fucking team. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: The way they're fucking playing.
Speaker 3: Manager?
Speaker 2: Still, all right, we got I feel like I know
that guy. That guy looks like a couple of people
that we've done some.
Speaker 3: Work with, probably an army member right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be that guy's mad. He's superman. I
love that guy. Check back in do a nation national search,
nationwide search for where the hell that guy is? But
it does change the landscape of it. One of the
more interesting things. We're going to talk a little bit
about trades. But you know, the trade rumors are floating
around that Hunter Goodman. Everybody wants Hudder Goodman. Dude, just
drop three bombs on Sunday, one of three players with
thirty homers. And the Yankees fans want him, and Boston
fans want him. They like, really really want him in there.
And it seems like the Rockies, even though they have
tons of control for him, looks like they're going to
entertain if they get a big offer.
Speaker 3: I just wonder.
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Red Sox will be aggressive enough
to compete for him, where the Yankees could just flick
a wrist and they could send over Spencer Jones, you know,
or Jason Dominguez or a pitching prospect. It's like the
Red Sox, I think, would have to part with. I
don't even know if the Rockies would want Christian Campbell,
but they've got good prospects. I just don't know what
they're willing to do. Franklin Arius would be one. But
I saw, oh man, I saw a trade pas Let
me see if I can find it. It was wild.
Speaker 3: It was one of the and it wasn't like a
Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 2: Oh here it is. This was from the Athletic. Oh well, okay,
I'm about to say it wasn't one of those trolley
fans that put together. But this is Jim Bowden that
put this together. Here's Jim Bowden's perceived trade for Hunter Goodman.
Here's what the Rockies have to give up. And I
think I gotta be honest with you. The first name
I'm gonna tell you, I think it stops there and
doesn't happen. Conley Early is the first piece, the second piece,
what's the point Kyson Witherspoon, the third piece Marcella Mayer,
and the fourth piece Carlos Navares that he thinks all
four of those pieces are what it will cost for
Hunter Goodman. There's no way the Red Sox do that trade.
Speaker 3: They're not giving up Early.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're giving up early. There's no chance
they're giving up all four of those pieces.
Speaker 3: There's no chance, not for one.
Speaker 2: Guy, maybe Witherspoon, Arius and Navarre, maybe Navarrees.
Speaker 3: I could see being McCarthy back. Do you even need
McCarthy on this team? With the outfield they have.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but if they did, I think
that also speaks to what I personally believe is.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I kind of think that Jared Duran could still get
traded out too. I mentioned that on the show today.
Just he just sucks, he stinks, and he I don't
think like.
Speaker 3: He needs to change the scenery. He needs to change
the scenery.
Speaker 2: I think there's just bad blood in Boston and stuff
like that. And maybe there's still some trade value, but
I don't think he's doing anything for the team, and
if anything, he might be a hindrance if if they
have to stop playing him. So I think he could
be on the move. Maybe he's someone that goes with
the Rockies trade.
Speaker 3: But dude, that trade offer is asinine to me.
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm just off and I'm wrong, but that
Conley or I mean, the Diamondbacks couldn't get Conley early
coming back, and it could tell Marte trade was the conversation. Now,
to be fair, Goodman has arbitration. I think, isn't he
like control twenty thirty?
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty thirty, So he starts arbitration in twenty seven,
but he's under contract until twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's really good and he's also weird. We
talked about it where he's got like he sucks at
home and he's like amazing on the road. So I
don't know what that would do, but that's one of
those trade rumors that's floating out there. I think it'd
be super interesting for the Red Sox. I think the
Red Sox might.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be like, Hana Fink Goodman, what's this guy
gonna do? There's a loser. I think they might blow
it up.
Speaker 2: I think this is the redemption story for Breslo because
he's like, also, they sucked all their good players got injured,
and then on top of it, every player they traded
ended up being a superstar. And it's like this is
an opportunity that they're doing it with. Just it feels
like a bunch of like welding workers, you know. It
feels like in the nineteen twenties where they're just like, oh,
that guy just picked up a box really well, put
a you know, put a glove on him. Like they're
just doing lead.
Speaker 3: They're calling guys in Mexico that are working at tire places.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, that's what this feels like.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: I think like he has the support of everybody to
be like, oh, this is an opportunity go and they
don't really need I mean, if you get Crochet back,
you add Crochet to Sonny Gray, who's pitching like a
cy young guy. Jake Bennett has been the best pitcher
you've got early.
Speaker 3: You know, you got.
Speaker 2: Totally and there's some injuries that are in there, but
it's like you've got really good depth, you've got a
good bullpen. You just need to hit her.
Speaker 3: So maybe if Kyle Friedland out of Colorado too or something.
Speaker 2: Maybe Suarez they go to with the Reds, maybe they
try to get a Iohannil Suarez and a good I mean,
I don't know what it looks like, but I think
they're going to be aggressive, and I think Goodman is
going to be behind it. And I'm leaning actually more
and more than Goodman's going to get traded.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think any Rocky could get traded. Obviously,
it's going to cost a lot. They got a nice
bitting war for Goodman. McCarthy needs to go as well,
like almost anybody hitting well and is on a shorter
contract like three years or less, like those guys need
to go for sure in Colorado.
Speaker 2: Two big injury things, well kind of three big injury
things that were floating around. The big one is Shoho Tani.
It's not an injury per se, it's the pitching version
of Atani is taking a big hit because he is
kind of being shut down. And you know, I am
repeating myself from leading off, But I was kind of
happy about this because, like one of the CBS hits,
I did, they set up like they want to talk
about Otani and the question literally was did I think
they were going too quick? And this was on like Saturday.
I did this, and I'm proud of myself because I
was like, yeah, our Friday, maybe this was I was like, yeah,
I actually think from a real word perspective, this is
the wrong move. This dude had an injection in his
knee during the All Star break. Let's let's be as
careful as possible. Let's not have him out there pitching,
because dude, you got an incredible outing. Roki Sazaki was
incredible this week. And by the way, we didn't I
forgot to talk about this on leading off, two and
a half miles per hour up on.
Speaker 3: His fastball needed to break over a.
Speaker 2: Mile per hour and everything else. His confidence looked back,
needed the break, the rest his stuff look good. Blake
Snell is rehabbing Robleski's incredible Yamamoto went complete game like.
These are the reasons why you should baby the crap
out of Otani and let him come back later. But
it does suck for fantasy if you take the pitching
only version, and it sucks if you're in head to
head and you move between them. Do we think him
losing pitching is enough to take him off the number
one spot in a movement.
Speaker 3: Type of thing?
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, what do you think the pitching side
we saw him be like a cym type of guy.
Do we need to tread water a lot more lightly
next year? Knowing that these type of things can happen
in pitching. Is the first thing to go by the wayside,
I say yay on the ladder and the top and
the first thing I kind of the former. I don't
think I want to make an adjustment off of his value.
Speaker 3: I'll say no on the ladder. Actually, I don't think
we need to worry about next year's pitching because I
think this knee injury will be behind him, right I
understand that it's a you know, the knee injury specifically
is why hindering his pitching this year, and.
Speaker 2: He's he's anything. If anything happens, it's like the pitching
is the thing that they're going to just be like, hey,
let's not do that more than just the the.
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. I understand, I I but
I still think he's gonna be fine for next year.
I don't really worry about that for next season. For
this year though, you know, they said at best it's
gonna be a couple of weeks, so probably more like
three to four weeks, which is most of the rest
of the fantasy season until we get to the playoffs. Yeah,
and then you know, you got a guy starting to
pitch coming off a month of not pitching. What are
we doing there? Does he need to amp his arm
up or we just saving him for the playoffs? What's happening?
So the pitching side is down, So yeah, I would
say it probably doesn't make him the number one player
right now. He's still having a very good year, But
is he gonna stee a lot of bases after this
knee injection? He only has six on the year. Right,
like how many stolen basis is a tiny half? Yeah,
twenty two bombs. He's still hitting two nineties. He's gonna
score a bunch of runs, have drive a lot in
so everything is good there. He's still a top five player,
but number one player. I don't know, you know, would
you rather since we're just batting right now, you rather
have him? Or you'red on him or Jordan Walker him?
Er miss? You know what I mean? Like I think
one for one now he's in the mix of everybody.
Speaker 2: Well like the James Wood stuff too. I mean he
did have a big strikeout game, but like you know
that type of that that does it. It does make
a really really interesting like question built around it.
Speaker 3: With over under twenty more innings, pitch the rest of
these this season for show? Hey, uh say it one
more time? Over under twenty more innings for show? Hey
this year? That's like that'd be like four or five
inning stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say yes because my in
my brain it's a lot of time left. Yeah, he
pitches around mid August and I think he gets like
twenty five ish innings. I think, okay, five or six starts.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say if we chicken, this would we
go up to thirty or forty, Like, I don't definitely
not forty, maybe thirty, but that's if it's on the
short side and it's only two weeks he misses. If
he comes back in two weeks and there's no issue, then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. But yeah, a tough spot right now, Yeah,
it is, but it's something to consider long term. And
then Corman Carroll. Corman Carroll left Sunday's game, which I
thought was a shoulder, which would have been I guess
more worrisome, but it looked like he hyper extended his elbow.
Speaker 3: That kind of always.
Speaker 2: Worries me a little bit because of his I guess
he's changed his swing path a little bit this year,
but it's always it gets kind of violent, and that's
why the shoulder has an issue. Hyper extended elbow is
not great, but I guess it's not as bad as
the shoulder, and they didn't immediately put him on the
eel or anything like that, so that's good. But Corbo
was already having just like a fine season, nothing insane.
I know that Joe was Joe Rico was kind of
like a bye on him for the second half. A
hyper extended right elbow. Maybe he could be a little
bit more worrisome that we need to pay attention to.
But I'm not sure your take on it. Like again,
they said he's day to day, so I think that's good.
That immediate iel stint would have worried me more. Maybe
just takes a couple of days and he's back with it.
But any takeaways on the Carol, I mean you and I,
it's a nightmare.
Speaker 3: It's not good, like you said, but the h it's
not the shoulder, you know. I was worried about it
being the shoulder again from last season, but hyper extended
elbows no good. But they said there's a chance he
plays today. I don't think he will obviously. I think
he probably missed as a series uh and then comes back.
But if they're not putting him on the IL in
the next two days, I think he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're probably right. I need to stay positive,
stay positive for sure. Ronald'cunya could be back very soon.
Ronald Acunya had his rehab assignment up to triple A.
We thought he would be back, kind of thought he
could maybe come back right off of the break and then.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he's not back. To be completely
honest with you, you know how I am with that though,
with the best hit, they're just wasted back Jose Ramirez
is talking about zero rehab appearances like he's good. He's
just gonna go back into the starting lineup, which I
kind of think, why why not? Like you know, if
the guy gets sort of getting got to put him
back on the IL, well, he's gonna get hurt at
Triple A also, yeah, like what do you have to
lose that's that's in the world. Need to be back
in the lineup. Yeah, I look at I'm looking at
the lineup. He's not in the lineup today. Game's gonna
be kicking off in like three hours as we're recording this.
Speaker 2: So Tuesday, Wednesday maybe. I mean they're in Atlanta. I
gotta imagine he's back.
Speaker 3: Very very surely, which is great for my second game too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I took him, so I need him back.
Blake Snell also at his first rehab assignment start since
the injury.
Speaker 3: It's good. I've got to get hydrated.
Speaker 2: Man, he was hydrated as hell. I kind of wish
I would have got a comment from him about like
tweet you're tweeting about the the pedia light. It's one
of the funniest things of all time. But rest is
sure if he is a Padre next year, I'm gonna
go to and there's baseball. I'm gonna go to Padre's
camp with a bottle of pedia Light and I'm gonna
get him to I'm gonna ask to see if you'll
sign it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his next advertisement's going to be for an ivy
and you're gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you like nothing he does nothing, but
oh yeah, they'll just do nothing but like hydration based things. Yes, yeah,
that's all he advertises moving forward. But him coming back
is a really good sign. I think he's going to
need an extended amount. I think this is like probably
like three or four more so, I.
Speaker 3: Mean give him a lot that. This is where I
think the opposite, right, Like, this dude has broken down
so many times. Yeah, give him a long rehabitant before
he comes back up, because you don't want to start
relying on him and goes right back down again.
Speaker 2: And I think that probably puts some of the lines
of around like the mid month, mid August something around there.
Best scenario, so you probably can get like, you know,
six or seven decent starts out of him. I guess
Chase Burns and Kyle Bradish really weird, but I think
this is very much like baseball getting in front of things.
Baseball with the pending looming hold out or whatever that
I think a couple of teams wanted to get guys
just locked in extended. And Chase Burn's got a seven year,
one hundred and five million dollar extension and Kyle Bradish
got a five year, ninety million dollar extension. So some
big deals locked down that whatever cap based. God knows
what we're in store for. But I definitely feel like
you see teams like holding to the vest like they're
trying to lock up players. They're trying to get rookies
up earlier than ever to get you know, some playing time.
Speaker 3: They played it safe with drafts. Like it's a very weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know the full story, it's something I feel
like it's like, you know, like a movie series where
they like give you the little nuggets and pieces, but
when you see it all you're like, oh, that was
the storyline. Like I feel like in a year or two,
have the storyline, like, here's why it really made sense
that they all paid, you know, did these contract extensions
because look at this new you know, the look at
the new labor agreement and how bad it is for X,
Y and Z. So I thought it was interesting, Like July,
there's random pitching contract extensions put together. It was kind
of odd.
Speaker 3: Another one.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about trade rumors and injuries in
a second, but our friend Ino Sarahs put this out.
I have talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 3: But remember I asked you to ask him about it,
about the AI stuff, and I don't think you talked
to him since we talked about it. But no, it's
interesting that I didn't know anything about this and then
they're just like, no more AI. Yeah, so essentially what's happened?
Speaker 2: He reported, This is email's report on the Athletic that
MLB is outlining, outlining the use of AI on the
iPads that they use in game iPads, which is sanctioned
by the league, and they're talking about you know, we
don't know the exact stent. We don't know if I'll
use in like Claude or chat GBT or is it
some special base verson But was it generative, generative AI,
and I think, what's happening, what this is? This is meaning?
And this came down to the Mets that the Mets,
the report is, were essentially using AI to script what
pitches to throw. So that's what they're talking about with
genitre of AI is been terrible. AI has been awful
at that. It's it's like in game stuff, and all
it is is it's like model type things. I use
an analogy and I was really happy about this. Somebody
messaged me and said they love this analogy. It's probably
because they understand it. But I use this on leading
off when we talked about it that essentially, in the
poker world, there is there's a thing called solvers and
it has to do with g It's called GTO. It's
game theory optimization, and what it is is it's essentially
a script of every single hand in poker, and they
model out, you know, hundreds and thousands or whatever of
hands and they come.
Speaker 3: Up with the perfect way to approach.
Speaker 2: Each hand in each position. So the way you handle
a queen jack suited on the button versus under the
gun has a different approach. So blah blah blah. You
don't play poker, Like, what the hell does that mean?
It's like solvers and in AI, I think they're doing
this anyways, because I think what they do is like
in poker, get every single scenario, every type of picture,
and you model it out. What are the best pitches
to throw when you're down one run and there's a
man on and there's one out, and you're gonna have
modeling of what the success is. That was my brain
of what they were using with AI, and I was like,
I don't know what's the problem with that. They don't
let use solvers at a poker table. So then I
was like, Okay, well they'll just outlaw and those guys
will learn it. But now what we're learning is they
did it to an extra extent where they literally have
live models that are just like the pitch comes in,
it has all the data and then it says this
is what we should throw, and it probably is able
to tell like, oh hey, our pitcher fastball is down
a mile per hour. It's having this type of success,
so let's move away from it. And Baseball just wanted
to stop that right away. And I don't blame them.
I kinda kind of I'm a little bit on the
maybe end that people might be surprised about where I'm like,
I don't really think it's that big of a deal. Like,
all that's gonna start to happen is you're gonna have
guys that are gonna learn this type of solver thing
again the poker version for baseball, and they're gonna just
memorize it like poker players.
Speaker 3: Do memorize it.
Speaker 2: Then and then they're gonna have some people that will
memorize it and then they'll just be in the dugout
instead of going to the table. So all it is.
The difference is you can't use your solver at the table,
and then you're gonna have people that are gonna get
jobs that are gonna know and learn and they're going
to be like assistants and stuff like that. Now those
people will probably not be former pitchers. It'll probably be
the nerds that are out there. But that's kind of
my take on It's really interesting. Yeah, but that's it.
That's what it is. It's just straight up they don't
they want you to stop doing it. They're taking away
whatever generative AI was on there, and they don't want
teams to have this extra advantage, and I thought that
was kind of interesting, and there's probably more. I got
to be tw one hundred percent, Frank, I've not read
the article yet. I need to sit down and dig
into it and it will probably make much more sense.
But that was kind of my my macro view of
like the idea when I hear there's a on iPads
that teams are working, and then we found information that
there was literally complaints against the Mets for doing right
like actual literal what pitch do we do next?
Speaker 3: Type of stuff. I just want to I just think
we need to be all in or all out, like
I think that's what it is. We can't be some
teams are doing it. Some teams aren't just be all
in or all out, you know, just if you want
to make it legal, say hey, look this is a
tool at our disposal. We're going to use it, period
and of story, get used to it, use it the
way you want to use it, or say this is
not what the game is intended for. We don't want
to do AI keep it out of the dugout like
period and of story. I don't hear which way it goes.
I just want one way.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's that is the way I think
you're getting your way. It's it's just not going to
belong in the dugout during the game. Everything else you
want to do, do you modeling go as far into
solvers as you want before the game. That's fine, And
I think that's what they're saying is what's happening here.
So I'm not sure I find it a big deal
one way or the other. They're just cracking down on
it and creating clarity, which is probably good. There's probably
teams that are just like, huh, you know, there's like
teams that have no idea what these other guys were doing.
Speaker 3: But the Boomer teams and teams are calling the Mets,
what pit should we throw here? How do you get
this thing to work? You know?
Speaker 2: Right the trademarket's sartining to heat up. There's been a
couple that are floating out there, like Luis Garcia, Tyler Soderstrom,
Lawrence Butler. Apparently there's been some calls the White Sox
have checked in as far as interest goes on clay homes.
There's been a couple of little minor trades that have happened.
Robert Hassel was traded to Pittsburgh Aaron Savali. Those are
both guys that were defaied. Though I don't want to
go nuts with it because I don't think your rumors
have gotten super hot yet, and it's we're about two
weeks ish out a week and a half. I do
want to ask you about this one. I talked about
this last week in the Speculative. Again, this is on
the CBS thing. I'm trying not to say because it
might sound annoying to people, but that's just a place
that I have Sometimes I talk about things different, like
when do I get to talk about real baseball things.
It's always fantasy related. But I happened to do a
whole trade deadline thing, and I brought this up because
this just started coming up. The Mason Miller trade stuff
is getting loud. It's getting really loud right now. And
it was kind of quiet, and it seemed even a
week ago, seemed very unlikely. But now there are reports
out there that seems like the Padres are being the
pseudo Byron sellers that they might look to consolidate while
still trying to compete and stuff. My take on Mason
Miller has been, if they do it, it's gonna have
to be a huge win of a trade for the Padres.
That's the only way that Preller's gonna work because he
gave up a huge, huge giveaway.
Speaker 3: And bray Net, Henry Baiez, ed Yarnell Nuniez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a huge giveaway for them to do that,
it would have to be big. The team that I
have speculated on, I don't remember if I said this
last week was the Mariners, And I know the Mariners
have Munios, but they still want bullpen help. They've I
got a glut of pitching, and my trade rumor has
been the Mariners trade Ryan Sloan and more to get
Mason Miller.
Speaker 3: The problem with that.
Speaker 2: Is if I could see the Padres being weird and
wanting to trade major league for major league. So I'm
not one hundred percent sure how that would work. Maybe
it's like Bryce Miller and Ryan Sloan or something like that,
which seems crazy, or Luis Castillo and Sloan. But I
feel like that's the thing I keep putting out because
they know they have Kate Anderson coming up, and I
just can't find the right fit. I think there's plenty
of teams that could do it if they wanted the
you know, the.
Speaker 3: Gemini saying, I am well, I just punched it into
Google and everything's on Gemini. But it says the Yankees
have been involved upon Chason Diminguz, Will Warren Spencer Jones
and the Pirates actually as the second team with O'Neal
Cruz potentially going back San Diego. Uh yeah, I think
the Pirates makes sense.
Speaker 2: I just don't think.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Well, you know, that could be one.
Speaker 2: Maybe if they want, if they really valued O'Neill cruise,
Bubba Chandler and O'Neal crue what did it say, Onneio
Cruz and.
Speaker 3: Who Uh well, it was just O'Neill cruise for the Pirates.
I think him in a deal, I.
Speaker 2: Think like a cruise and a Bubba Chandler would make sense.
And then they trade Miller in something. Okay, that's one
I could kind of go by what I'm getting at.
You do you think Mason Miller is going to be traded?
Speaker 3: I don't. I actually don't. I had to trade him, right, yeah, yeah.
I like, even in a down year, you have your
closer for the future, and if you want to stretch
him out, you might have a really good starter. So
I just this is not something i'd do. If I
was a pot race, It'd have to be a godfather deal,
and I just don't know forgetting that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if Mason Miller did go to the Mariners,
I would say, holy crap, pitching ballpark, great pictures to
get him there, like a division. I kind of love that.
Pittsburgh I'm kind of indifferent about. Mason Miller is a
unicorn though, so it doesn't matter, But just throwing it
out there that I don't it could screw with your
nl AL only teams if you're playing with that. But
I think there's a chance Miller could get traded, and
it's tough because he's has control through like twenty nine
or thirty. And I think that's why you need just
a tremendously ginormous cell. That's why O'Neill cruise to me,
doesn't get it done. Maybe if they do Bubba Chandler
or you know, a low end prospect, But that's why
the Mariners, because you know, they chase, they they have
the same facility, and I think it just I think
there's a match made in there, especially a guy like
Ryan Sloan who could be ready like soon, and the
Patters don't have any young pitching to develop. They got
to keep buying it and that might be something they
want to fix here in the near future. So that's
just my thing thrown out there. There's probably stupid people
are yelling nowhere to Tree Royan Sloane like, okay, that's fine,
but similar trade rumors are out there. I think that's
the biggest thing. Ye they're like, ooh, next Monday or
the following show will probably be the big trade conversation.
Hopefully we'll have more on the injury front before we
get to the last seven days. Otto Lopez lefts Saturday
after taking a ground ball off his finger. He did
not play Sunday, so that's not good for your batting average.
Speaker 3: Also, the Marlins lineup has not been announced yet so
for today, so don't know if he's playing Monday. Either.
Speaker 2: That's not great. I mean, not going to il is good,
but that's not super great yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it does, what today might go?
Speaker 2: H What I thought was going to I swear to god,
I thought this was going to be a retirement speech.
I thought Brandon Woodruff was about to because of Pat Murphy.
How he approached it. It's better than that because he's
not retiring. But it's bad because Brandon Woodriff is having
a capsule surgery on his shoulder, and that is going
to be a year and a half. Like I think
you found a study that said it's like you know.
Speaker 3: It's it's close four hundred and seventy days after surgery.
That's the average that guy's come back after the capsule surgery.
Speaker 2: And I think it's pretty easy to associate half of
a season here a full season there. You're not getting
him back to twenty twenty eight. So he's just not
a dynasty option anymore. We got to be done with
Brandon Woodruff as a whole. He's going to be I mean,
isn't he like thirty one thirty two right now he's
thirty three. He's gonna be like thirty five thirty six.
By the time he comes back, it's gonna be two
years left in there. So that's that's a straight up drop,
and that's really unfortunate and why I have felt the
Brewers need to be so aggressive in trading for pitching.
Speaker 3: He turns thirty four in February.
Speaker 2: Apparently school's not available anymore. In trades, but they should
be calling for Joe Ryan. I do think I heard
a little bit more of the or I heard somebody
agreeing that Freddy Peralta is someone that they might look at.
I think Freddy is someone that they might potentially look
to trade for. So that's that Aaron Judge, this is
not good news for my second half teams.
Speaker 3: Is not ready to.
Speaker 2: Resume baseball activities and they feel like it's close, but
he's not ready. So that stinks for me taking him
in the seventh because I was hoping, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got los Acunya, but my hope was he would
start and then I get him by mid August, and
now I'm probably not going to get him till late
August early September. And that goes for you as well
if you own him out there. So that's that's pretty
crappy news.
Speaker 3: That depends on their record too. If they're killing it,
you know they're gonna baby him for the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the, like the And that's why it's super interesting.
Yankees are in a weird spot. They actually are kind
of annoying. They're like one of those dynasty teams that
have those it's like I think Jesse Severe would have
these teams where it's like they have really good teams
and they have insane minor league systems, and then they're
just absolute bastards and won't ever trade anything. Literally, just see,
they won't ever trade you anything good. They'll trade you
bad things. That's the Yankees. The Yankees of all these
minor league prospects, and it's like, go make your moves.
Speaker 3: You got you got games over, they're making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But but dude, you've got Volpi who stinks, you got
some underperformers and judges out and you're still awesome. Well,
guess what, go and take some of that capital that
you have in the minor leagues and go and bolster
up your team, because you can do it, dude, you
can do it. And I'm I'm shocked that they haven't.
And I wonder if this is the year that they
do it. I wonder if they do it this year
with guys like Jason Domingos and eventually.
Speaker 3: Garrett holes back right like awesome, So put those ships in.
I'm with you, Max and Max Freed.
Speaker 2: Max Freed he's beginning to rehab assignment this Friday, so
he's going to be coming back here in the next
couple of weeks, and it's like, just make some of
those moves, man, move those pieces. Stop winning so much, Jesse,
I mean, Yankees, stop doing it. Also, Edwin Diaz looks
like he's about to come back, so you can kiss
your Tanner Scott's goodbye because Edwin Diaz did a triple
a assignment and he's going to be out there closing
games and he's not great. I mean, it just was
nice because it was free saves for like the best
team in baseball. But now it's gone because Edwin Diaz
is going to close.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Penny left with a hamstring day.
Speaker 3: He is playing today, but Christian Walker is still out
of the lineup.
Speaker 2: And he left with the hip sore noess and uh,
he didn't play on Sunday, so that's something to watch
save me. Besides, was removed Sunday with shoulder discomfort. A
lot of injury stuff with him. Lordus Gurriel back on
the io with an aductor's string.
Speaker 3: It's a minimum, though they said he'll be back as soon.
Speaker 2: As he's before his ass is traded. That's why it's
a minimum. They got to get him out of here
and Mike's Soroka. He threw a bullpen on Tuesday, Gonna
need one more start before returning and he'll be back.
And Justin Martinez is facing live hitters this week, so
that's actually a good one because he could be back
in like a couple of weeks. And that's some late
saves if you want to speculate. Also, Zach Gallon was
getting a second opinion from a Tommy John doctor, So
you know, if you didn't need more reco not at all.
All right, let's take a break, we come back. We'll
take a look at it's really not seven days. If
we did seven calendar days, that is actually the weekend.
This is Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So we'll take a look
at your weekend big performers and closing stuff and see
what's out there, because they're still I gotta be honest
with you, there are some numbers you look and you're like, wow,
that is seven days. Nope, that's just the weekend. Drake Baldwin,
will your BRADYO. Those are just the weekend numbers that
they did. Crazy, So we'll take a look at hot
guys off at the start. A couple of struggles as
well as pitching, and then we will get you set
for the week. So we'll do it right for this
right here, and in this league.
Speaker 1: It's in this league, got what plants craze, It's got electrolytes.
Speaker 2: What are electrolytes?
Speaker 3: Do you even know? It's what they used.
Speaker 2: To make in this league.
Speaker 3: I'm the smartest guy in the world who like Q test.
Speaker 2: You took him prison going to Carls Junior. All right,
this weekend it was a Drake Baldwin show. Drake Baldwin
was crushing everything. I don't I'm not really five yesterday. Yeah,
I'm not gonna do batting averages because three days it's
just silly.
Speaker 3: I've never had a guy hit seven hundred over a
week and it's only because it's the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But in the Homer department, Drake was not
the leader in Homers. It was my boy, William Bray.
You who he talked about. William Brady, you had four,
Drake Baldwin had three, as well as ty France, Hunter
Goodman and Austin Riley.
Speaker 3: A couple stops here real quick.
Speaker 2: I want to talk because I just mentioned it before.
But you know, go listen to the short on William
Bray you just because it gives clicks and just for
me to not repeat myself. But I mean I kind
of told you guys, like since June first, he has
had an improvement as far as his barrel rate goes.
He's hitting the ball harder, his babbok is low, so
it feels like he's underperforming. That profile starting to click again, Like,
I just think he's in store for like a nice
red hot second half, so he's a buyer. Let's stop
over at Drake Baldwin. Though Baldwin had a really poor
return from injury, but man, he's.
Speaker 3: One of those dudes.
Speaker 2: As soon as you get hot again, he just clicks
back into value because his baseball savant profile is just
sick o mode. He hit zero point sixty three in June,
but he's hitting three sixty eight in July right now,
with three homers over the last three games, and he
has three straight multi hit games. Like he's right back in.
Where do you think he belongs as far as catchers go,
You've got Goodman, Ben Rice, Counts, William Contrere. I kind
of think he's three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he's behind Rice and Goodman right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Shay Langliers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean probably in the tier with Langoliers. But
I'd still put the way Baldwin's hitting right now, I
put Baldwin add.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with that. That's kind of
where I was going with that. Uh type France Goodman
and I want to do I have not done it.
Let's take a look at Austin Riley. Nobody I'll claim it,
especially if I end up being wrong, but nobody was
more out on Austin rather than me. Absolutely done with it.
He hit three homers over this weekend, which is nice.
Speaker 3: It talk about who needed the break real bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe he did, because he is hitting It
started up before the break though July he did hit
two seventy three four homers strikeouts Finally look like they
might be coming together a little bit. He's actually stole
a few bases and then off of the break, which
I guess still counts July.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He has six hits in his last twelve at bat
so yeah, to your point, like the break has really
done him well. He was starting to heat up in July.
He is hitting at home right now, but the like
over arching stuff it's still just down across the board.
But are things changing, Are things changing in a direction
where you are gonna maybe consider getting back into Austin
Riley or is it still just not dog?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't. Here's my problem is he's
still hitting real low. He he has started hitting, but
he's hitting seven and six. The highest he's hit he
hit fifth on July fourth. But because he's been bad,
he's hitting in the lower third of the lineup, which
makes me less inclined to go out and get him.
If he hits like this, though, he's probably gonna move up.
I guess Atlanta's just hitting as a hole though, So
but I don't know. I guess I'm gonna say I'm out.
I'm gonna say I'm out because I don't know how
he moves up in this slant up. He has to
hit for longer than two weeks, and I just think
he's going to stay in the bottom third of the lineup,
probably for the rest of the year. So I'll say
I'm out on Austin Riley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to see if there was any pops.
I just happen to have the like U.
Speaker 3: Two homers is nice and you know he's hit had
hits in five of his last six games, which is
also great. But we've seen we've seen him completely tank
this year.
Speaker 2: So here is from June first on. I can give
you a couple. I mean, it still looks kind of
the same. So his season totals ten percent barrel, ninety
exit velocity, nineteen degree launch angle, forty two percent hard
hit rate. Those are his season totals since June first.
Let's see what's changed. Where'd he go? Eighty nine average
x velocity so may twenty degree launch angles. He's getting
the ball in the air more.
Speaker 3: He is he was before.
Speaker 2: It's just a little bit most like a degree. He's
barreling the ball about two percent more twelve percent, but
it's hard hit rate is down. And check this out,
two thirty average since June first, an XBA of two hundred.
So it's like, even when things are shining a little bit,
like I just I have a hard time buying it's
it's it's hard because you want to buy it because like, oh,
he's you know, he was a talented player and stuff,
but everything looks like a mess to me. And I
think he's gonna put together a weird season that's gonna
be like twenty two homers and like two thirty average,
and it's just it's there won't be a time where
it was smart to roster him, you know what I'm
saying by that, Like it won't be like, Okay, well, hey,
look he's stunk and he was good, let's go pick
him up right now. And then he's gonna go and
stink for another week and then you're gonna drop him
and he'll be goet like you're always gonna make the
wrong move with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say walking grade either. He's still under
three hundred ninety six.
Speaker 2: I'm still out. Yeah, I'm still out. In the RBI department,
Drake Balden, we talked about had the most with Chaparro
as well, will your bray you ty France And I
want to make a stop at Fernando Tati because just
in case you do not frequent leading off, I put
together a deep dive on Fernando Tatis Junior, and the
season totals are really interesting now to eighty four seven homers,
twenty five stolen bases, forty nine runs. But the interesting
stuff comes from the one goofy tweet I saw that
I had mentioned was that he didn't have a homer
as of like May first, and then he just crossed
and passed Vladimir Gerrero Junior, which is like, it's actually
kind of crazy just to think about. But here are
his the stats I pulled from June first on because
that's kind of the that's what it sparked. By the way,
this whole big marker in me of like looking at
June first and stuff, where's my deep dive? Let me
go back to it. Since June first, he's hitting you know,
three hundred, he's got six homers, eleven stolen bases, an
eighteen percent k percentage, one thirty four WRBC plus. That
looks great. Numbers are good, Like if you encapsulate that
and you're like, hey, this is five weeks, you're like, oh,
that's vintage Tatist. But here's what's exciting. His season total
still shows a four degree launch angle. Since June first,
that has gone up to a seven point eight percent,
so he's almost doubled his launch agle, essentially doubled it
in that period of time. He's had a season total
eleven percent barrel rate. But since that period of time,
since June first, that is up over thirteen percent. He
also has a fifty six percent hard hit rate, which
is one of the highest and as I mentioned, his
average EV ninety four point six. It is the highest
in baseball since June first, tied with Kyle Schwarber. Bernando
Tattis Junior has really turned that game around. Was kind
of a goodbye. And he has a decent chance. I mean,
if he goes on a tear, dude could hit twenty
still get to twenty homers. He probably is going to
between fifteen and seventeen, but he might steal forty bases,
be close to like one hundred hundred. Guy like Tatis
is gonna he's gonna walk himself back into being like
a first round player. And I think the trends are
really working well in his favor right.
Speaker 3: Now, agreed. I mean, you know, all the tack cast
is perfectly fine. We know it was the launch angle
that was keeping him from hitting bombs. Uh, And I
think he's gonna be okay. So this is absolutely a buyback.
And what is he hitting right now, like on the
band or Yeah, this season total is two eighty two four. Yeah,
XBA is two eighty eight, So yep, that.
Speaker 2: Right there XBA two eighty eight still supportive.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. So I think I think he's gonna be fine.
This is a dude that I am absolutely not worried about.
Definitely worried about Austin Riley, not worried about for non
the tuttis. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think a lot of people were
worried about, and I had moments where I was kind
of worried.
Speaker 3: I was fair, he wasn't hitting any homers. Like, you
can do the rest, but if you have no homers,
what are you doing? Yeah, but the profile is always
look that hit twenty five last year. Yeah, but he
was like hitting the ball super hard all season long.
He was barreling and stuff. And then it was like
this swing is just jacked up. So it seemed easy
on the surface level, but was it ever gonna happen?
And then and then now it is and it.
Speaker 2: Guess what, it was as easy as possible.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: In the run department, William Bray, you had five. He
led the way with Drake Baldwin, Curtis Mead and Austin Riley.
They were a bunch with four. So again, these are
all guys that we've kind of talked about here, and
seem Nunia is with three more stolen bases. I haven't looked.
Let me take a look at what this.
Speaker 3: Six. Yeah, it makes All this guy does is steal bases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me sick. Let me just do that,
let me reorganize it. He is up to thirty seven
in a row, thank you, thirty seven stolen bases. Bobby
Witt has thirty. It's crazy. And those are the only
guys with thirty I mean one, yeah, one Homer, I mean,
Chayler Simpson's got twenty three. He's just he's just done.
He's out there. By the way, no person with twenty
or more stolen bases has an average. Uh that even
is at two eighty five right now?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Is that crazy?
Speaker 3: Bob? I mean, how many guys hitting three hundred right now?
Isn't it like four? Yeah, there's eight. I guess that's
a good point.
Speaker 2: There's eight. And the highest batting average with stolen bases
is Atto Lopez three thirty five with eighteen stolen bases.
Speaker 3: Who was seen warming I just looked it up. He
was seen warming up with a trainer throwing the ball.
So maybe he'll play tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good that's a good turn here and
then in the walk department, JP Crawford Wade had a
couple in here, I do since we didn't have him
on here, and I'm I just can't avoid it for
this show, So apologies for this exact one. There's just
kind of a crossover of what we do with leading
off there. But as Merlin Valdez is on another FN
planet right now. He doesn't show up from just the
three days. But nobody has been more prolifics over the
last thirty games because over.
Speaker 3: A sixty you know what I didn't say before, tells
me there's thirty six percent dead leagues. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Let me see what do you think he is in
the consensus between Yahoo and ESPN?
Speaker 3: What's his ranking? You know?
Speaker 2: No, how much does he owned?
Speaker 3: Oh his roster U seventy five percent is an ESPN
usually a little.
Speaker 2: More fifty two percent, so less. Yeah, but like no
one has hit more homers in thirty one game span
to start their career than as Merlin Valdez. He's got
twelve homers. He's pacing to be a thirty guy. He's
hitting over three hundred.
Speaker 3: He's saying thirty six percent dead Leagues and Yahoo and
forty eight percent.
Speaker 2: And then he hit four hundred in June. He's hitting
two ninety eight in July. The homers don't stop coming.
He's got a twenty seven percent barrel rate, twenty degree
launch angle, hard hit like, you know, I just I
couldn't feel more vindicated for propping him up during the
AFL and also against everybody and the people that still
do it with me the whole like, oh, it's an
AFL thing, Jacob Marcy, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: All of that to be said, he has two.
Speaker 2: Clear things that are staring us in the face. One
is one is symptomatic, and one is the problem XBA
of two twenty. Like that's like a problem that'll probably
even out in stuff the two twenty XBA to a
three or five average. It's very worrisome and that we'll
have some media nowt But a thirty seven percent k
percent is just a problem. You cannot strike out at
that level and continuously be successful. But I likened him
when I.
Speaker 3: Did see some more points leagues with all those strikeouts
for ESPN, just to give them credit, you know, I mean,
not forty eight percent dead leagues. Maybe it's more of
a points league.
Speaker 2: Me and Stanfel talked about this, and I likened as
Merlin Valve is maybe to more like a Murakami in
that look. He doesn't chase. He is one of the
best chase rates in baseball. His barrel is amazing, his
heart hits amazing average ex velocity, he's expected slug, he's
got great bat speed. He walks, guess what he strikes
out and withs a lot, but he doesn't chase. And
that's like the scene story that goes on with Murakami
that I just wonder maybe that's how you approach him.
If if he's a two forty hitter but hits thirty
five forty homers, Like that's the type of profile he's
misleading right now. To me, he's not a three hundre.
I don't think he's gonna be a three hundred hitter.
I said this on Prospect one during the AFL time
that one of the things I was so impressed with
was his ability to understand the strike zone. He challenged
this one ball that was like a quarter of an
inch away and got it right, like he really understands
the zone, but he can get swing happy, he can
miss the pitch type and stuff like that, but that's okay.
He's twenty two years old. It's gonna get better as
time goes on.
Speaker 3: So like I've made them not miss O'Neil cruise as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think he's so interesting from so many points.
The problem is is like in dynasties and stuff, he's
like everyone's talking about him and there's weird values. I
would just keep it in a pin in it. If
he comes back down to earth a little bit, I'd
be interested in trying to buy low on him when
that happens. If that happens in a redraft, I wouldn't.
I hate anybody that tries to maybe trade off because
I just don't think he's gonna hit three hundred. But
we also just need to like come to terms with
like he's incredible, incredible bat speed, with incredible power, all
fields power. He makes some good decisions and he's just
super young. Learning that doesn't maybe make for the best
fantasy player this season. So because every goddamn tweet is
about him and his homers, and he's Berry Bonds and
Pittsburgh and stuff. Like I would look to trade him
to see if somebody wants to at least him. Yeah,
in chat, what was it why at Langford? Someone said
who would you rather have? Valdez or Langford? And it's like, well,
that's the type of trade I think I could get
down with, you know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean I still want Langford, but yeah,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It might be that it might be but like I
could be okay with that move, or maybe I just
don't think anybody does this. But it just follow me,
like what if someone just really didn't believe in like
Foster Griffin, and they wanted like Valdez and like, you know,
another little thing. It's like, that's the type of stuff
you might be able to pull together here and get
off of the volatility of Valdez. But from a long
term perspective, the dude's awesome. But I do think he's
going to finish the.
Speaker 3: Year probably closer to a two forty two fifty hitter.
Speaker 2: But twelve homers and a three hundred average and one
hundred at bats, Like, don't be dismissive just because that
strikeout rate is a problem. He just might This might
be the new version of the players, you know, the
old Adam Dunn type where you know, but I'm calling
it the Murakami, the Kyle Schwarber where the average is
never going to be incredible. Maybe there'll be years where
it goes, but just you know, he's just not going
to chase You're not going to beat him outside of
the zone. You got to beat him in the zone.
And as he gets older that might be more of
a problem. Just a boy is Merlin is He's the
dude struggling over the last two weeks. Who are you
worried about? Here are some guys. I'm going to put
him in two buckets. Bucket number one Corbyn Carroll, who
is god an injury and hitting a buck eleven with
a homer and a stolen base.
Speaker 3: Got to be worried about the injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bryce Harper hitting one forty three, no homer's, no
stolen bases, could tell Marte one ninety no homer's, no
stolen bases, Freddy Freeman one eighty eight. Actually there's a run,
hasn't done anything else. Pet Alonzo does have a couple
homers and stolen bases, but hitting only one eighty eight,
and Gunner Henderson one homer, one fifty eight.
Speaker 3: The bucket stops there six very very.
Speaker 2: High end names. It is only a two week marker,
I think.
Speaker 3: And there's racing games in there for the break.
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, probably would have been better if we
would have done the last month, to be honest with you, But.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, like, I'm not worried about too many
of these guys.
Speaker 2: But you're on the guy that I'm worried about.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, Gunner. What is he hitting for the year
to seventeen? Not good? Yeah? I mean, is this gonna
bounce back around two point not good? Two point yeah?
Two twenty. I mean, if he doesn't get it together
in the next couple of weeks, like you know, enjoy
the break all that stuff and have have a nice hot,
hot start. After he's hitting two twenty, it does seventeen
homers and eight swipes, but the OBP is two eighty nine.
He's talking about how it's not above three hundred. It's
pretty bad. He's scoring runs, which is the RBIs are okay,
But I don't know. They got him hitting for the
rest of the season about two fifty six based on
what in health projections and where he went I understand,
I get it, but XBA is two thirty six, so
that to kind of to your point, like the highest
he said in any month this year is two forty five.
He hit in June fourteen, two twenty five, two forty five,
and then one seventy in July. July has been his.
Speaker 2: Worst month, I will say, interesting.
Speaker 3: And only one homer in July, also with three four
and nine in April.
Speaker 2: He's hitting only two nineteen against fastballs, but an XBA
of two point fifty one, and offspeed has an XBA
of two sixty one.
Speaker 3: He's doing that while also pulling the ball at.
Speaker 2: The most aggressive degree he's ever done, twenty four point
eight percent pulled air percentage. Wonder if that's causing the
problems and he switches off, or if it's just part
of the fix that's going to be coming here shortly.
He's a super weird one. He is about fifty points
lower Babbitt than his career and arguably it's oh it's
like seventy five points lower than last year, so he's
kind of underperforming. It says it in the pitch type
as well. He's really tough. I lean if someone was
super out on him to maybe buy when I see
like xbas against fastballs to be better. That's something he's
gonna see more of. He's getting the ball in the
air and pulling it more. Like those are things and
by the way, he has a better zone contact rate
than last year. Those are things that would lead me
to want to buy, but I would need like big
old discount because he might be the most worrisome of this.
Ktell's like, I guess I'm gonna this is stupid, but like,
just these are all these guys, like I don't worry
Freddy Freeman's built on contact, like pet A Lonzo's power,
Like I'm.
Speaker 3: A little worried about Carol the top.
Speaker 2: End, not just because of the injury, but also I
just feel like just having a mediocre year. Great, he's
hitting triples, like please don't miss time so I can
win my triples bet, But like the season hasn't been awesome,
So maybe I'm a little bit worried on like this
is we're gonna look back and we're gonna be like, oh,
that was a less than stellar year. That maybe he's
more of a second round pick. And if you look
at the Diamondbacks being weird and him not performing and
now this hyper extended elbow, Like maybe we should be
more worried about Carol in the second half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the injury stuff really does bother me. So,
and who knows is is this Like is this finally
after it's been hurting him for six weeks? Or is
this he just got hurt on the swing and now
we have to deal with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I thought it was on the swing, but it's
a fair question.
Speaker 3: Well, look when he hit the homer on Saturday, it
looked like he was grabbing his elbow a little bit
as well, So like, how long has this bothered him?
Is it just this weekend or has it been you know,
at the course of the season.
Speaker 2: That's something we've seen with him as well. Here's some
other warning signs it could be a little bit worrisome.
Barrel percentage is down around three percent year over year,
average excelocity is down a mile, prower launch angle's down
three degrees, and from an XBA standpoint, it's under two fifty.
Why that is a little bit more important. He is
overperforming against fastballs right now. He's hitting two sixty seven
XBA is two twenty seven. You don't want a guy
to struggle against. If there's any pitch you could not,
please don't struggle dramatically or like Gunner. Hey, his Gunners
was a two sixty expected batting average, so maybe there's
some positive regression in his future. That's not the case
with Carol, and I didn't notice this. Check this out, dude.
Last year eighty one percent zone contact rate. This year
seventy seven point five. That is well, he'd always towed
around league average on that, so don't read too much
into it. But that's well below average, and his wiff
rate gone from twenty four point eight to twenty nine percent.
Maybe we do need to be great.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, he's the most prolific against lefty on lefty guy.
Speaker 2: Great. Everything else is bothering me, So I actually I'm
more bothered about Carol than anything on this list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree.
Speaker 2: The next batch is William Contreras hitting a buck one
oh three, no Homer's no stolen bases in the last
two weeks, Ozzie Albi's forty one at bats in that time,
no Homer's no stolen bases, hitting two twenty tay Oscar
It sucks since he got back. He has two hits
in twenty five at bats. Cal Rawley a big old
pile of dump one ninety four, the big Dumper Tics,
a new meaning Walker, Marsh, Lyle, Basillo Bets, all hitting
under two hundred, all actually hitting under one fifty, by
the way, and really, you know, like Brandon Marsh, you
don't want to see because he had been so good.
There's kind of varying degree of weird.
Speaker 3: It's not a shock, though.
Speaker 2: What are your worries though of this group?
Speaker 3: I mean, walking beside our hurt, so obviously right now
I'm worried about them. Taoskar doesn't seem right. Maybe he
came back too soon. I know he has really good
numbers against whoever the Dodgers are playing tonight, because I
was looking at that like he does. So maybe tonight
we'll get him back on track. But he has been bad.
Cal Rawley's been bad all year, right, I think Lyle's
probably streaky, so I'm not too worried about him. I'm
not very worried about Mookyuh So, yeah, it's probably just
Taoscar Roley's been bad all year. We're done worrying about him.
He's just not good this year. I think that's kind
of over with and then Walker and I think you
can you know, if you're in redraft, you can cut
caw Rawly. I don't want to who are you going
to pick up? Right, but I mean, let me just
look at some catchers that have been hot over the
last like two weeks.
Speaker 2: Here, I got thirty days here on Fantasy Pros, You've
got Gabby Moreno's the fourth catcher, hitting three sixty eight.
Carter jen He's only forty four percent on Carter Jensen
four homers to sixty seven. Carlos Francisco Aalverrez, by the
way seventh two fifty seven, six homers. G two Ermudo
is ranked ninth, Tyler Stevenson tenth.
Speaker 3: Dobby's hitting ninety seven over the last two weeks, so
he's kind of bouncing back. Danner Diaz is hitting two
eighty over the last two weeks. He's forty one percent roster.
Harry Ford's been a nice addition to Washington j t
Real Muto as you mentioned before. So yeah, there are
guys to be had. Yeah, it's Tyler Stevens is hitting
three over the last two weeks. So I think cal
Rawley can get it back. I just don't think it's
this year. I think it's twenty twenty seven and beyond.
Speaker 2: I have a general worry about Ozzy because I never
really bought it, So Ozzy worries me. Marsh worries me
because like it's all dictated on him being like high
end average. And I will say, like I definitely fooled
myself into Mookie Bets thinking that things are going to
turn around, and just like it's continuously being bad that
those are the ones that really stand out. I don't
think it's anything critical yet. Marsh is still hitting like
over two ninety, so I don't want to like go
into full panic mode. But July he is hitting one
fifty seven, So something to monitor everything. Since the break
has been really bad, thin man leagues, it might be
time to even move off of guys like Marsh and Betts,
to be honest with you, because it's like these are
really bad around taoscar Hernandez too. I think that one might.
Speaker 3: Be he's he's been banged up. It's just banged up
and bad and all the bees.
Speaker 2: So all right in the pitching side, some big performances.
We actually had a bunch of like really like great
performance is from the great pitchers, but also some other
surprising ones. Trek Scouble seven with nine k's against the Angels,
Yamamoto complete game, seven strikeouts to earned runs against the Yankees.
Really deserves better and more Flowers Paul Skiing seven innings,
one earn run, eight strikeouts against Cleveland. I want to
say I think the Velo might have also been a
little bit better. That's something Arico has been really worried about.
He'll probably talk about that on leading off later this week.
Logan Gilbert ten strikeouts, six innings against the Giants. Chris
Sales seven with six strikeouts, now earn runs. Brian Wu
six innings to and runs seven k's against the Giants.
Speaker 3: Good to see him get going again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they they And that's the key I
think to them being like hyper aggressive in the trade market.
If you've got Gilbert and you've got Kirby, and you've
got Miller, and you've got if you got in handcock back,
if you got those guys going like you still have
a surplus, you know, could you trade? They could trade.
I see people mocking Kirby in trades and it's like,
I don't buy it. They could do it if they wanted,
they got the surplus of it, I would it.
Speaker 3: He's kind of a weird dude. I don't know how
in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Also, that could be just if you want to put
something together like I did with the Padres thing. And
let's say the Mariners really don't want to trade Sloan
in Kate and they see a future of like you know,
Gilbert and Cad and Sloan and maybe it's like Bryce Miller,
and they want to build around that. Kirby for Miller
starts to make a lot more sense, and that's a
frontline starter for the Padres. And if they didn't want
to get rid of Sloan and they want to build
those two guys up, I guess I could see it.
But I just find it hard to believe that the
Mariners would break up the Gilbert Kirby combo. Yeah, it's possibility.
And Himan Hancock's been good too. That Lozardo's five innings,
seven strikeouts, and that was a good performance at home,
because I think he had been I don't feel these
guys struggle at home and they're or no, they're good
at home and then they're bad on the road. I
think it is, or maybe I mix it up, but
either way, Lozarda was good. Sonny Gray six innings, five strikeouts,
They have four walks against Tampa. This was a good sign, though.
Nolan McClain six innings, two hits, nowhere and runs ten
strikeouts against the Phillies. Buzz saw curveball going. McClain looked
really good. Yeah, he had a little stretch. There was
there was a one period of time in the season
where it was like we had to talk about him
as like a top ten pitcher, and then things kind
of were like coming apart a little bit, and he's back.
He's got a three three four ERA, a one point
zero nine whip, His k percentage is closing in on
twenty nine percent. Like he looks all the parts of
that top like twelve to fifteen starting pitcher. Though, it
is funny because I asked the question because Uri Perez
was phenomenal this week and six innings, one hit, nine
strikeouts against the Brewers. I asked the poll question of
Ury Perez versus Nolan McClain on leading off.
Speaker 3: What the hell did you what did you don't Knowmber?
Speaker 2: What you said?
Speaker 3: I said, Uri? But I mean, it is such a
coin flip. I don't think it really matters one way
the other. Honestly, Marlins are playing better. So if any
if there's a hint of any injury with Noel McLain,
maybe he gets shut down because the Mets is so
bad this year, right, That is my splitting hairs between them.
But I don't think it really matters. Yuri is healthy
now and looks great. McClain looks great coming off the break.
Our poll was fifty eight percent in favor of Yuri, So,
I mean, it's honestly really right down the middle.
Speaker 2: And I think it was fifty eight percent. That's what
Oh yeah, he does say fifty eight percent Ury Perez
they went in favor of so Yury got that one,
even though percentage ownership here it's McLain ninety seven percent.
Ury was ninety percent, So that one's kind of interesting.
Logan Webb was good six and two thirds, three and runs,
five strikeouts, Sandy al Contra six innings, one in runs,
seven strikeouts against the Brewers as well.
Speaker 3: Not a good pitching this weekend. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: There's really good and I'm actually gonna like move off
of them because I want to talk without these other guys.
But a little bit lower. A couple that stood out
read Debt Meer is good again, only fifty nine percent
owned on was this yahou Yes, six innings, four hits
nowhere and runs, no walks in seven strikeouts. I think
he made the case for the big trade that's coming,
and the White Sox have been paired with him. I
also think the Braves would be an interesting one. I
think Reed Debtmers is actually going to get a pretty
decent return, as the Angels apparently are making him and
Soriano available.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it. Man, that's a good.
That's a good. I think they need pitching.
Speaker 2: I think the Brewers would obviously go, but the White
Sox have really been tied to Reed Debt Meers, so
I wondered what that trade could look like. And then
Jake Bennett six innings, one hit, in strikeouts. Dude, he's
been the best pitcher like over the last month for
the Red Sox. He continued, only fifty six percent own
and then I think you've probably watched a decent amount him.
I don't know if you saw him live, but dude,
Peter Lambert.
Speaker 3: I did see him.
Speaker 2: Live yet six innings, one and run ten strikeouts.
Speaker 3: The game that I went, I think he had eight
strikeouts and it was two zip Astros was the final.
Speaker 2: So he's one of those dudes I just always felt
so dismissive of. But he's got a three point zero
three EER.
Speaker 3: The Astros get these guys every year. Ron al Blanco, right,
did this then all hold like this though? Right, Lambert's
been great, and I was surprised to see that he's
over fifty percent rostered in Yahoo. He's fifty four percent rostered.
So he's been and by the way, ron al Blanco
comes back today, I believe. So he's been out all year.
Not in a hurry with Pete Lambert. Twenty four percent
k percentage. Expected era is three to eight expected batting
average against his one nine to nine. Really impressive, and
he's throwing eight different pitches. He's only thrown a bunch
of curveballs. It's really more like seven pitches.
Speaker 2: But it's just crazy. I haven't done like crazy deep
dives on him. The fastballs and ninety two average ex
velocity against the sliders ninety but everything else is super
low and he's getting whiffs. Just an incredibly impressive season
by Pete Lambert. Ten man leagues. If they're available, Guys
like Pete Lambert and Jake Bennett really shouldn't be, but
they would be great streamers the under fifty percent market,
though Jared Jones continues to judge. I think he's at
like three incredible starts, five innings, nine strikeouts, three hits,
one walk and one in run he did against the
Cleveland Guardians. I've seen some trade rumory stuff. I'm not
really sure why they would do it, but I've seen, like,
you know, they maybe package him to like, you know,
one of those major league type of trades, like if
you're gonna go get Mason Miller, you might have to
give up a Jared Jones or something like that. Like
that could be out there. But he has been really
good a couple more landon route seven innings, three walks,
two strikeouts against Seattle JT Gin six and one third
seven strikeouts against Washington and your boy Shane Bieber. Six innings,
three and runs or three hits, no one in runs,
two walks, six strikeouts two forty three forty three, So
they're all in the forties. Pick one Jones, Route Gin
or Bieber.
Speaker 3: M I think probably Jared Jones strikeout horror, That's what
I am. And he had nine against Yeah, yeah, I
think I am too.
Speaker 2: They're still building up to those innings.
Speaker 3: If not in it's been good all year too. Raup
has been real hit or miss. I think he would
probably be at the bottom of this list. For me,
I'd probably go Jones, Gain, Bieber.
Speaker 2: Rap Drohan went six with nine strikeouts, kind of make
a case to keep in the rotation. That was against
the Marlins. Michael McGreevy six and one third five strikeouts
against Arizona, Kate Cavali six innings and nine strikeouts against
the A's, And I got to stop because I mentioned
before Roki Sazaki ownership gotta have picked back up five
and two thirds five strikeouts and his villa.
Speaker 3: Was way up and no tears this time, Yeah, way up.
Speaker 2: So I kind of buy him back in, you know, tissues.
He's gotten tissues which made the villa go faster.
Speaker 3: A slimmer. Flores has been coaching him, so that's good.
Speaker 2: And it was against the Yankees too, and it just
like seeing the villo go up like that, Like it's
just hard to pass. Brendon Young had a really good
outing seven innings, seven strike up against Houston Spencer, Arraghedtty
five innings, six strikeouts against Baltimore, but four walks, Set
Lugos six innings, three strikeouts, Arraghetty, Young, Lugo, Kavali. I'm
not gonna put Sazaki in there because I feel like
he's different. Cavali, Arraghedtty, Young, and Lugo. Who would you want?
Speaker 3: Cavali, Raghetty, Young, Lugo. I'll give me Young. Young has
been good, I think for the last like three or
four starts in a row, and he's going deep into
games too, not walking mini, getting some strikeouts. I think
Brandon Young's my guy out of that group.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's been good too. Yeah, Kavali with
the strikeouts stuff, but Brandon. I think I like both
of them over. Aragetty and Arragedty's in between their own. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Aarraghetty is a damn land mine at this point, Like
it feels like he goes out and he'll give up one,
and then he'll go out and give up six the
next start.
Speaker 2: Let me just look at Brandon.
Speaker 3: Young's game log real quick while we're here, he has
seven innings one to earn, seven innings, three, five innings, four,
five innings, two, five innings, one, six innings three, So
a bunch of quality starts in there, and no blow
ups is really the big thing. He has given up
no more than four earned runs in a single game.
The third game of the year against Houston that he pitched,
he gave up ten runs, but only four were earned,
so probably not a good start there, but no other
blow ups. It's been three to four runs or fewer
in every single start. So Brandon Young is a very
nice four player right now.
Speaker 2: I think you have a section called s he starts,
which we're gonna do, and I think you mistook this
player there, but you have Brandon fought in there, and
he sure didn't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I just moved him down too low.
That's fine.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to mention him because I've been talking
about him for the last couple of weeks. Four straight
starts that he has been really good, and his pitch
mix is kind of changing. He went five and one third,
two earned runs, only three strikeouts. He's not getting the strikeouts.
Speaker 3: But I was so used to putting him in the
bad start section. Lives there. He has lived there, but
he's a guy.
Speaker 2: I think I have more interest even than like Cavali,
to be honest with you, I think he's really turning
it around.
Speaker 3: They think. I listened to the post game with him
and they talked about how he's just like throwing the
ball over the plate more, not walking as many guys.
That's been the whole point to him going down, and
that's what he's been doing recently.
Speaker 2: One walk in his last three four starts, so that
is definitely living up to that. In the s start department,
Edwardo Rodriguez blew up two and two thirds, five earned runs,
two walks, three strikeouts, seventy percent own. There is gonna
be a big, dramatic drop. And this is almost two
a t what I was talking about before the break.
I did a video with a Rico and I pinpointeded
Wardo as a cell and literally I said, he has
been amazing. He's been incredible. But what's gonna happen is
if he has one of these starts, he's gonna fall
off of a cliff. The trade value will be gone.
I think people will cut him. He might get more,
he might get more of a grace. But guess what,
I think the trade value of EDWARDO a week ago
looks dramatically different than now. And not a lot of guys,
you don't. The players that that's true for should be scarier.
One start shouldn't scare the s out of people. But
I think ed WARDO it does. Doesn't mean he's done
by the way, right, because he did this before. Yeah,
he's had a blow up start already this year. I
think it was like five or six starts ago where
he gave up six and like three innings. Like when
he does get dusted, he is out early in games.
Speaker 3: I think this was two and two thirds. I think
the other one was like three and a third. He
goes fast if he gets yanked. But he's been good
ever since the Game of Venezuela clinch against the US, right, Like,
he's been good since World Baseball Classic this year. So
I don't want to completely count him out. But I
think you're more right than you're wrong. I do think
that it is the riding on the wall and we're
gonna he's about to turn into a pumpkin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just again, if you were in the trade
world and you could have gotten something from That's what
I wanted to do, is get off of him while
you could get something. But you know he might turn around,
it might be good. I just think that's seventy percent
is going to look closer to fifty by next week.
I drafted stupid Griffin Jackson. He got his things. Lit
Earn runs well, six strikeouts against Boston.
Speaker 3: That was Bostin's too hot. Can't start guys against Boston
right now.
Speaker 2: Those are the two biggest own ones. The other ones
like no, Cameron got banged around, Zebbie, Matthew, zachly Tel, Grayson, Rodriguez, Feltner.
I think Cameron and Matthews were the only real relevant
fantasy ones.
Speaker 3: We had Feldner on the like good list like four
weeks in a row, and then he got yeah, I
just that's why he don't buy it.
Speaker 2: And then in the closer department, not a lot we're
gonna pick up after like three days or whatever. But
we had blown saves from Alex Lang, Paul Sewalt, Soto,
and Fairbanks, three of the four legitimate legitimate closers. Sodo
SODA's a little dicey, but he had a blown save
Policywell got in l Lane got the blown save in
Fairbanks got the combo loss and blown save and that
one that.
Speaker 3: Was a one nothing game and he gave up the
three run bomb to end it fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might just be cooked. And I don't think
there was only one non closer save Grant Wolf from
nothing much to pick from.
Speaker 3: But that is that's a story.
Speaker 2: That's the story from the you know, coming off of
the break over the weekend, some of the looks into
this big week and then we kind of get to
get back to it where I mean, my god, we
have the trade deadline that's coming up, We've got you know,
Bridge League from rookie perspectives, we got playoff races, and
we've got you know, an intense run for your fantasy
playoffs or you know, the end of head to head
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Speaker 3: That is it.
Speaker 2: I hope you guys have a fantastic one. Let's get
it in the second half and we'll do it all together.
We'll do it right here and in this league we
out recently, so move on.