WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.960 Hello everybody, and welcome to Game Spot After Dark, Episode 2 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:34.000 ninety one. I guess it's technically after dark because we're 3 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.719 recording in the morning this time, trying to It's been 4 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:41.560 a busy week, you know, a lot going on at 5 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.600 Game Spot, but we're still here to make time for 6 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:45.640 all of you and the podcast. I am your host, 7 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.880 John Laczek, I'm sorry to say once again, and Lucy, 8 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:51.359 we're not able. 9 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.359 To say sorry for being the host again. 10 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.840 Well that too, I mean, yeah, you're great, oh, thank you. 11 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.359 But it's it's okay that I'm here because I'm also 12 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.680 joined by a wonderful guest to help make this podcast 13 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:08.439 excellent once again, I'm joined by Michael Lame. What to 14 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.400 Do Baby? Returning? Is Ben Jenka? 15 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.079 Is this the first time we've gone after dark? On 16 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:16.480 the opposite side, I think, like from because it's the 17 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.359 morning the earliest suspense. 18 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.760 I think so, I think so, I mean, no after dark, 19 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:23.799 what happens after dark? It's morning time this morning, I. 20 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.879 Mean this is I can't believe you full circled it 21 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:27.680 to a morning show. 22 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:31.959 Also, Hi, and for the very first time, Evan. 23 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:34.840 Langer, Hello, Hello, thank you for having me. 24 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.599 Any of you who have listened to our spoiler cast 25 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.719 for our Persona episodes might be familiar with Evan Big 26 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.719 Persona boy. 27 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:46.680 This is true. 28 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.879 Yeah, the rumors are true. Yeah, it turns out. 29 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.959 Noah, he had some hesitation that He's like, wait, am 30 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:56.280 I I. 31 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.319 Thought I hated Persona? No, Persona sucks, Margana, get out 32 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:00.439 of here. Wow. 33 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:01.439 Wow Evan. 34 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:04.359 Evan is a lovely person and I'm glad to have 35 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:07.159 him here and I miss working with him, I miss 36 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.840 seeing him in real life. So yeah, that's that's my 37 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.360 testimonial of Evans, so everyone could trust us. 38 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:14.080 My review of. 39 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.240 Evan Langer is like a nine point five out of 40 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:17.319 ten ship. 41 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:19.400 The point fives. 42 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.039 I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like you know 43 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:22.840 what I'm saying. 44 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.400 Like you know what I'm saying, Like you know, yeah, 45 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:26.360 I know, I know exactly. Yeah, Yeah I got you. 46 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:27.560 I got you totally, you know. 47 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.159 Like graphics, like you know, that's like a nine, and 48 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:33.800 then like audio, Yeah, the. 49 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.360 Viewers tilt, you know, reviewers till I give a ten. 50 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.599 The sound I give a ten. Graphics are probably a nine. 51 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:42.639 Okay, I'll live with that. I'm good with that. We 52 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:43.800 can sell a lot of copies with that. 53 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.360 Yeah. Well, Evan, since it's your first time on, we're 54 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:52.800 going to be doing the Dayton Oh Boy, It's morning, 55 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.680 the Chris from Dayton, Ohio segment, the music. 56 00:02:59.159 --> 00:02:59.560 Chris. 57 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.280 There we go. All right, Evan, why don't you tell 58 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:05.719 us a little bit about yourself, what you do here 59 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.159 at game Spot and some of your favorite games. 60 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.759 Well, hello again. My name is Evan Langer. I'm a 61 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.439 video producer here at Game Spot. I started as a 62 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.560 video intern almost two years ago, in June twenty nineteen. 63 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.319 I've been here ever since. Turns of what I do, 64 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.759 I mean, there's a ton of stuff over the years. 65 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:25.719 I do a lot of like the Nintendo stuff for 66 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:28.960 video preview review features. Done a lot of stuff with 67 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.159 my boy Kurt, which do I love working with. I 68 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.280 did true fiction when we did Save State the news show. 69 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.639 I was the editor for Generation Next. I used to 70 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:40.000 Live Switch the podcast, so we did that in the office. 71 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:42.879 I'm sure there's plenty of other things, but I won't 72 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.120 waste more people's time. So there's a bunch of stuff there. 73 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:47.840 What I like playing, I guess I kind of already 74 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.719 said it, but Nintendo, Nintendo First Party Games, the first 75 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.240 system I ever owned, was a Nintendo GameCube and the 76 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:54.759 first game I ever owned was the win Waker, and 77 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.680 I'm pretty sure my life trajectory has been set at 78 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.919 that point. So yeah, usually whenever there's like a Nintendo 79 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.960 first party game, I'll check it out. As we said 80 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.520 at the top of the podcast, Persona, I do love 81 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.960 Persona lot. Persona five Royal is my second favorite game 82 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:11.840 of all time, behind Winwaker. Recently got into Yakuza thanks 83 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:13.080 to the three people on this. 84 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.120 Podcast, the fives. 85 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.360 He's a young crime boy over here. 86 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.560 Yeah, I'm still new to it, but over the course 87 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.600 of Quarantine, I've played through Yakaza zero through seven in judgment, 88 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:26.639 all very very fantastic and uh yeah, I mean other 89 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.480 than that, I also like Sony's first party stuff. Most 90 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.439 people call it playing a movie. I like the fact 91 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.560 that you're playing a movie. Yeah, is there anything more 92 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:36.319 I should say? 93 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.720 I just want to say that Evan has done everything. 94 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.920 He's done everything well and it's uh, it's yeah, that's 95 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.439 that's my boy. That's my second testimonial. 96 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:47.800 Right, thank you. 97 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.160 I appreciate because you were talking about like true true 98 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:55.120 fiction and like like actual like production like stage production 99 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.000 or like shit like that. I'm like, oh damn, I 100 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.399 almost forgot that. That's how far you go back. Because 101 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:01.800 Evan's a young boy, We're like, what you're like twenty two, 102 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.160 twenty three, and I'm like, you've done it all already. 103 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:08.800 So thank you, thank you, well star. You can thank 104 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.959 specifically the founder and former host of this podcast, Jake Decker, 105 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:13.639 who took a chance on me and gave me a 106 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.839 ton of opportunities. So forever, thankful to that man for 107 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:18.759 putting me in the position I am today. So yeah, 108 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:20.079 all right, out to Jake. 109 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.759 Oh righty, Well, why don't we just move right onto 110 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.560 what we've been playing. I guess I'll start just because 111 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.879 I don't have too much to say. I've been playing 112 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:35.519 more Reternal Hot Game this week is the hot game 113 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:39.439 this week. Our review is up. You can go check 114 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:41.600 it out. It's from Mike Epstein, who gave it a 115 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:42.560 nine out of ten. 116 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.720 She goes read that sharp, yeah, sharp review as well. 117 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:49.240 I help edit it, but yeah, that fool was spitting oh. 118 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.680 Yeah, and you should also go check out the video review, 119 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.360 which I edited and I thought, I think it's pretty good. 120 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:57.279 But yeah, I don't have much to say outside of 121 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.879 what I said last week other than damn, that game's 122 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:05.319 still real, real good. It looks great, it sounds great. 123 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:09.160 I hope everyone gets a chance to check it out. 124 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.560 You know, I'm I'm all worried. I'm worried it's gonna 125 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.839 get passed by because it's a it's PS five only 126 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.639 it's coming out, you know, right before Resident Evil Village, 127 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.240 before Mass Effect. You know, all these other games are 128 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.680 coming out. It's seventy bucks. Seventy bucks, which you know, 129 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.680 I'm not one to debate, you know, game game value 130 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.920 versus cost. I do think it's you know, it's a 131 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.639 fantastic game. Like, if it's the game interests you, it's 132 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:42.160 it's worth the money. But that is not in substantial 133 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.680 chunk of change. So I absolutely understand if people are 134 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:49.279 hesitant to check something out, especially a new ip like that. 135 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:51.800 But if it does interest you and you have a 136 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.240 PS five, I really do think it's worth checking out, 137 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.160 either now or down the road, maybe when it goes 138 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.199 on sale. If you're you know, not sure at the 139 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.399 moment ary, you already got your money devoted to other games. 140 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.279 Because it really I do think it's it's something special, 141 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.920 like house Mark is just absolutely knocked out of the 142 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:13.399 park with it like it. It feels fucking fantastic, It 143 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.439 looks great. This is the kind of game you want 144 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:17.120 to put headphones on, you want to get that that 145 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:21.639 tempest three D audio going the the dual sense, Like 146 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:23.759 it's a good showcase of the p S five, I 147 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:27.439 would say, which I think maybe like that That's kind 148 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:29.319 of my hope is that. I think I think people 149 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.439 with PS five or maybe have they been itching for 150 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.120 like a good next gen uh next gen game to 151 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:37.199 really show off what their their systems can do. And 152 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:41.240 this is definitely definitely one of those games. So yeah, 153 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.800 if if that uh that roguelike structure like interest you 154 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:50.600 if you're into sort of like creepy alien mystery kind 155 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.879 of you know, like it's got it's got that deep lore. 156 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.639 Phil Hornshaw, who's game spots like Lore boy, he loves, 157 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.040 he loves, he loves spitting about like Destiny Law all 158 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.240 the time and he's he was like, dude, like you 159 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.279 gotta beat. I got talked about the lore in this game, 160 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.120 and I was like, oh shit, okay, all right, so uh. 161 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.560 Phil Lorshaw, Yeah, that's what we putting now. Ten page 162 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.040 things for Eddie's like a quick edit on this destiny 163 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.680 lore thing. I open it up, I'm like this motherfucker's 164 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.959 oh my god, and like I don't understand ship, but 165 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:25.480 you know what, it's well put. So that's you can 166 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.680 trust Phil on your maternal lore. 167 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:28.079 You can. 168 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.040 You can when you read hell of books, you get 169 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:31.560 all the lore. 170 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:33.919 Yeah he's wild sci fi nerd as well. He is 171 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.679 he is, so yeah. He he also has been playing 172 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:40.240 it and loves it. So yeah, I really can't recommend 173 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:43.759 it enough sick. Yeah y'all y'all were trying to convince 174 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:48.039 me last night, or you specifically trying to convince me, 175 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.440 and I think, like I want. 176 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.440 I don't know. I talked about how like I don't know. 177 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.360 I uh, I want some I want some ship. I want. 178 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.200 I want I want a game where I can blow 179 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.159 ship up. But I need I needed. It needs to 180 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.600 be it needs to be cerebral on some level because then, 181 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.440 like I was talking about how I would play Call 182 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.440 of Duty to like bloll shit up. But then it's 183 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:09.960 like I don't really have to think about Call of 184 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:11.679 Duty because I'm that good at that game where I 185 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.559 don't have to really think about what I'm what I'm doing. 186 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.240 I just natural reaction as boy, you know the vibes. 187 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.440 But once once my mind is turned off, then my 188 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.159 mind so starts wandering. I start thinking about other things, 189 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.120 and I can't have that when a playing game it 190 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.480 needs to needs to like grab my full attention. But 191 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.600 it seems like Returnal is challenging in a way that 192 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.600 it is very it is very. 193 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:39.399 Mental and uh in some in a big way. I guess, yeah, absolutely, 194 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.879 And like I said, like you put on like the 195 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.720 headphones and like the sound design is just like you're 196 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.240 you're in it. You are you're in that game. And 197 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.360 I mean when when that combat gets going, you have 198 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.559 to pay attention because it is like wild, like there 199 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.200 you get to these like really big combat arenas where 200 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.799 there's been so many times that I've died just because 201 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.120 I like focusing on like the ten enemies in front 202 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.200 of me. But then there's like this guy like teleport 203 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:05.960 and he just comes and right from behind and gets me. 204 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:09.960 So like you you have to be just like constantly 205 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.000 paying attention to your to your surroundings and kind of 206 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.120 like you know, on the move, Like if you sit 207 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:17.919 still for like even a moment, you will die. So 208 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.159 if you're looking for a game that is just is 209 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.440 just demanding your attention at all times when it comes 210 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:28.399 to like the combat, like paternal Sketch covered. Oh all right, 211 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.200 then why don't we move on to Michael? What have 212 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:32.120 you been doing this shit? 213 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.279 So I poured my heart out about Near Replicant last week, 214 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:40.039 and that's all I fucking think about is Near Replicant. 215 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:43.480 That game fucked me up. I've said as much last week, 216 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.600 but it's it's almost the same feeling that I got. 217 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.679 I talked about this last night when we were just chilling. 218 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.559 Is that back in twenty seventeen when I played When 219 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.240 I finished Persona five, like I was, I was in 220 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.039 a mood where I couldn't play anything else because my 221 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:02.960 mind is like preoccupied where trying to just trying to 222 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.159 process the Persona five experience, And so I played. I 223 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.200 played Near Automata in in twenty seventeen, but I couldn't 224 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:12.840 play it right after. I tried playing it right after 225 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.639 Persona five, and I was like, I can't. I'm not 226 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.720 thinking about I'm not thinking about this game hard enough 227 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.559 in this moment. So I'm gonna put this off and 228 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:23.240 I'll play it later. And I eventually played in Near 229 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.240 Automata later that year, and it was my second favorite 230 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.799 game of twenty seventeen. But right now I'm in that 231 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.559 mood where I've finished Near Replicant and like I can't 232 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:34.279 play anything else because that's the thing I'm thinking about, 233 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.480 And if I try playing another game, I'm still thinking 234 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:44.360 about Near Replicant. It's like, yeah, so the closest thing. 235 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.399 So this is what I did in twenty seventeen. After 236 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.919 Persona five, I played Persona four Golden and that was 237 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.000 the only game. This is the only game that would 238 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.679 that can capture my attention in this moment. So I 239 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:55.559 feel like it's the same thing. So I'm replaying Near 240 00:11:55.600 --> 00:12:00.240 Automata right now and it's fucking wild. I think I 241 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:01.759 may have talked a little bit about this on the 242 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.559 last episode, but noticing a lot of a lot of 243 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.679 things I didn't notice before about Automata that that are 244 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:12.759 connections too, and you're Replicant, Like you go to the 245 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:17.639 desert in automaal and the machines in the desert are 246 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:20.879 wearing the masks and wearing the capes, and they have 247 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:23.559 the face paint of the people of Facade, which is 248 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:28.039 the desert area, and your Replicant, and there's also a 249 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:32.000 side quest in there that is where the machines are 250 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:37.039 exactly replicating the the culture and the practices of Facades. 251 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:38.440 So if you play Near Replica, you know that the 252 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.039 that the people of Facade have a they're governed by rules, 253 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.440 and they have like hundreds of thousands of rules, and 254 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.200 it's kind of it's kind of a parody about you know, 255 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.720 overburdens of laws and rules and regulations in a society 256 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:53.600 and also the shit, but the machines are are imitating 257 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:56.120 that in a way that's like that's a direct connection, 258 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.600 Like holy shit, like I didn't, I wouldn't. You would 259 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.720 never know about that connection and if you hadn't played Replicant. 260 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:05.039 So I'm expecting a lot more things like that. But 261 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:10.000 just to straight off the bat, I think so I 262 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.039 haven't I think about I think about Near a lot 263 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:16.240 I have since I played Automat in twenty seventeen, But 264 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.559 I think now I have a much I have a 265 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:23.559 lot more life experience, I have a different level of 266 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.360 emotional maturity, and I pay attention. I'm paying closer attention 267 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.320 to smaller things now because back when I played in 268 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.120 twenty seventeen, it was okay, I'm going to finish this 269 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.200 game in a span of four or five days for 270 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.600 Game of the Year. Oh shit, this game is like 271 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:42.600 one of my favorites in recent memory. But in doing so, 272 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.759 you kind of get lost in the sauce a little bit, 273 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.360 and like the finer details, kind of you're likely to 274 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:53.200 miss the finer details, especially if it's a first experience 275 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:58.039 in a particular franchise. So this time around, I'm picking 276 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.279 up everything. I'm taking it slow. I'm doing a much 277 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.759 many more, many more side quests. I'm talking to all 278 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:05.200 the NPCs. I'm not trying to rush through the game 279 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.679 like I did a decent chunk of side quests back then. 280 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.399 But now it's kind of like I'm I'm taking my 281 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.639 time because I want to, and the finer details matter 282 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.240 a lot more to me. So yeah, that's it's been 283 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:23.559 a really weird experience in that regard, but it's it's 284 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.399 the only thing that I can do, Like, that's the 285 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.600 only thing that's gonna that's gonna fulfill me in this moment. 286 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.840 And so yeah, And I've listened to the soundtrack so 287 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.919 so much so now I'm hearing those songs play again 288 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.960 now and it's like, oh, this motherfucking song, like let's go. 289 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.919 Oh my god. It's yeah, it's it's. 290 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.759 Something to replay that game, and in a very very 291 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.080 different context. I think that, like I said before, like 292 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:55.000 Near Replicant is kind of this this tent pole game 293 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.639 for me, where like I can, like I understand myself 294 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.559 a little bit better afterw having played that game. And 295 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.639 then so with that mentality in mind, I think that 296 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.320 I have I have a different, if not better, understanding 297 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.279 of what Automata is trying to say or at least 298 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.559 how that game makes me feel. It's a lot more 299 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:19.000 complex in that regard. So before it was like Yo, 300 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.159 sad sexy robots. Oh damn, this is this This shit's 301 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.120 sad kind of philosophical, but I feel like, yeah, it's 302 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.440 sad sexy robots, but it's a lot more personal. I 303 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.879 feel like this experience is very it's a very personal experience. 304 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:36.600 So yeah, that's that's what I've been up to, and 305 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.840 that's what I would continue to do, because damn, that's 306 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.919 just like yo, men will literally not go to therapy 307 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:45.879 and instead play sad video games. 308 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:50.440 Hell yeah, sometimes sad video games are are better than therapy. 309 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.840 I mean, you know, but I'm not not not going 310 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:55.399 to get therapy. It's just you know, that's just low 311 00:15:55.480 --> 00:16:00.120 key expensive. Yeah, so you know, is my therapy. 312 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:06.720 Speaking of that, I think that a little probably a 313 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:10.039 little bit after this podcast goes up, I'll have my interview. 314 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.679 I have recently interviewed Yoko Tara for his his press 315 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:19.679 rounds for Near Replicant. This fool, this wool pulls up 316 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.519 to the Zoom meeting and it's like squarreenis it's like 317 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:26.600 the translator the squaren xpr from US and Japan. And 318 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.000 this fool pulls up and his Zoom avatar is Kermit 319 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:34.320 the Frog, like an animated an animated Kermit the Frog 320 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.039 that animates when he's talking, and like his his head 321 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:39.600 movement so like I can tell he's like gesturing and 322 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.639 moving around as I see the Kermit the Frog neck 323 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.799 like stretch and his mouth open, and I'm asking questions 324 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:47.240 like yo, yeah, telling me about Kaye, telling me about 325 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.840 a meal, telling about like your design philosophies and all this, 326 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:52.080 like you make it sad video games? Like what does 327 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.679 that say about you? And I'm looking at this goddamn 328 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.559 Kermit the Frog avatar? Tell me about human existentialism, and 329 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.440 I think it's like the Funnies shit, because so on 330 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.519 brand for him, say, I feel like that it. 331 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.799 Has to be that way. That's the most It's the 332 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:06.920 only way cannon Wait could play out. 333 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.559 Yeah, it's like he's not gonna wear the emal helmet 334 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:10.599 on on a zoom call. 335 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.359 So what's the next? 336 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:13.440 The next best thing? 337 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.519 Kermit the Frog? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Yo, 338 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.680 this this fool God damn dude. That's one of my 339 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.400 favorite memories of Game spot with you is when we 340 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:26.119 got to uh do the Yokatara interview for Let's play. 341 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:26.759 Yeah. 342 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.960 Yeah, we like did a little let's play and and 343 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.599 then like we were very professional. We were like, Okay, 344 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:33.319 we're gonna be very professional about it. And then like 345 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.200 after it was over, we were both like, oh, could 346 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.119 you sign our copies? Like we just immediately like switched 347 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.440 to like fanboy, like yeah, oh can we get a photo? 348 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.319 And oh yeah that was so funny. I remember that 349 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.119 exactly because we brought our copies of the game to 350 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.440 have them sign. And the funniest ship too with that was 351 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.559 like he he he went on a lot about why 352 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.559 he like doesn't like making public appearances, and I think 353 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.640 he's he said as much in like past interviews, but 354 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:05.319 he kind of reiterated a lot of that when I. 355 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:06.000 Talked to him. 356 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.400 But yeah, in that Let's play, if you'll watch it, 357 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.839 it's like he he's he's like present in on camera 358 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.839 during the during the intro wearing the meal helmet, but 359 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.119 he can't wear it like the entire time. So what 360 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:20.599 ended up happening is TAKEI Satauta from Platinum, who is 361 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:24.440 uh who is also on the Less Play, would anytime, 362 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.200 and then Yo Katar was off camera speaking into a microphone, 363 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:31.000 and then Tatasan would just like move the move the 364 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.599 meal helmet. When when Yo Katar was talking and I thought, 365 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.960 I was like the cutest ship ever, Like, oh God, 366 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.759 I love it, and the thing is like that Let's play. 367 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:41.720 I was like wild nervous because I was still new 368 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.519 to hosting, Like at that point, I had only been 369 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.759 doing scripted things, and I'd been on like a couple 370 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:51.279 episodes of The of the Lobby at that point, but 371 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.799 I'd never done like here is a well he's live 372 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.920 to tape, but here's like a you are doing let's 373 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.160 play with a big name developer. Two of them. Actually 374 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.359 you're on your own, have fun, and like shouts out 375 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.839 to Mike Maharty for the boy, Mike Mamharty for like 376 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:10.559 letting me take up that opportunity because he was like, 377 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.759 I think you would be better to do this, and 378 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.359 I'm like, yeah, shit, say less man. But that was 379 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:18.400 that was a huge learning experience and I'm really really 380 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.519 thankful that I got to do that, even though you 381 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:24.000 could tell like this like oh, he's feeling it, he's 382 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.759 feeling it. But yeah, y'all should keep that. I still 383 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:29.160 think about that to this day. That was one of 384 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.599 the coolest things I've been able to do. So yeah, 385 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.640 near Man, y'all should y'all should play that? 386 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:40.920 And I have not played any near I apologize, But 387 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.680 should I start with Automata? Should I start with Replicant? 388 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:46.599 And now the replicants a thing because it came first 389 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:47.039 in a way. 390 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:49.559 Yeah, yeah, that's I've been getting that question a lot 391 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.359 through folks on Twitter, which is really good question. I 392 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.079 hadn't really thought about it until recently. So what I'll 393 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.359 say is that I think Near Automata is the better 394 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:06.559 will have leave first timers with the better impression, especially 395 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.000 gameplay wise, So and also it's on game Pass and 396 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.920 you could probably cop it for about like thirty bucks maybe, 397 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.039 so it's it's it's cheaper as well. So I would 398 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.160 in that regard, I would recommend near automotive. But I 399 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:23.039 think that replica like it also depends on what you're 400 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.839 looking for, because I think replicant is such as a 401 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.599 stronger emotional This is a high bar too, because near 402 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:32.559 automatave is a strong emotional hook too, but it takes 403 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.200 time to get there, whereas near replicant will grab you 404 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.720 story wise and emotionally like like off the rip, like 405 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:42.960 it's very you'll get to those, you'll feel that a 406 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.160 lot sooner. Because the thing about near automotive is that 407 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.079 it builds towards that and like kind of leaves that 408 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.599 breadcrumb trail to then hit you towards the end, whereas 409 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:55.279 near replicants like, here are the characters, here's who they are, 410 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.599 here is their personality straight up, and then now this 411 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.000 this band of misfits is fucking shit up. So I 412 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:05.519 think that so I would recommend your replicant if that's 413 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:07.599 more of your vibe, or if that's more of what 414 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:12.000 you're looking for. I would also recommend Replicant first if 415 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.839 you're already set on playing both, because the connections that 416 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.559 you will make are or the Yeah, going from replicant 417 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.799 to automative, I think that there's you'll get more, you'll 418 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:24.720 get a little bit more out of it, and that 419 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:28.160 like the references especially, So. 420 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:31.480 I would go fifty to fifty. But I don't know. 421 00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:34.839 I would maybe try automative first. See if you're vibe 422 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:39.759 with it, you probably will. But yeah, replicant is what 423 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:41.839 or what you would what I would, what I did, 424 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.160 or I would recommend people's play automatave because it's a 425 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:46.960 better impression, then play Replicant, then replay automat and then. 426 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.640 Start to make those connections. I see you play as. 427 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.599 Shit three times, you know what I'm saying, including all 428 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:53.880 the other playthroughs that you gotta do. 429 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.039 Then you go hit up all three dragon Guards because 430 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:57.160 you're in too deep and there's. 431 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.400 No hopeful I'm gonna I'm gonna lets I'm gonna do, 432 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:00.880 I'm gonna do. 433 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:05.279 Uh let's play stream of Dragon Guard three. Got a 434 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:06.079 daddy near. 435 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:10.880 I miss a flipping coffee dad's voice. 436 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.359 Uh so, yeah, I do too. 437 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.319 I mean I also miss his attitude. Uh looking back 438 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.079 at some of the line differences, Yeah, uh, it's it's 439 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:23.240 bigger than I thought it would be. 440 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:28.319 Yeah, So if y'all are familiar, like maybe we talked 441 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:31.039 about this a little bit already, but the original Near 442 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.319 had the father main character, and he's voiced by Jameson 443 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:39.240 Price who's Sodirosakra. But also, uh, it's a very it's 444 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.359 a very different vibe because like brother Near is like 445 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:46.400 your he's like your kind of shy ish boy, your 446 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.920 anime boy, your shy anime boy, and then he eventually 447 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.960 grows up into being your your your anime boy with 448 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:57.400 an attitude. But then with Daddy Near, he's just like striped, 449 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:00.920 like an old tired dad. He doesn't have time for 450 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.119 anyone's bullshit, but he ends up being like he has 451 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.279 like the heart of Gold sort of thing where he's like, ah, 452 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:06.880 I'm tired. 453 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.200 Of this bullshit, but I'll help you anyway. 454 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.759 And he has some really really good lines and delivered 455 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:14.359 extremely well. I think he fits into the mold like 456 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.119 really really well in terms of like the group dynamic, 457 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.960 because they're all they're all so they're all so different, 458 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.480 and like I think Daddy Near stands out more within 459 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:27.720 the group, whereas I feel like brother Neir is more 460 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:29.440 of like an avatar for you. 461 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.200 To project yourself, whereas Father Near is his own character 462 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.839 in many ways. I remember that being such a like 463 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.279 a big point for like critics at the time when 464 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.000 that game came out, Like people were like like who 465 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.400 were like huge anime fans or maybe were like a 466 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.839 little tired of certain anime tropes, were like really liked 467 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.400 like Daddy Near as like a character because he felt 468 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.000 like so fresh and different. And I think there's like 469 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.480 one reviewer in particular who is like talking about like 470 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:56.440 just like yeah, like I love that, Like there isn't 471 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.400 some like spiky haired, whiny emo boy as a protagonists 472 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.440 in this game. Everyone in the comments was just like well, actually, 473 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.279 I mean yeah. 474 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:10.759 I'm because I've I've only I'm still working my way 475 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:16.640 through Replicant right now, and I can see some points 476 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:20.559 from when I played the original Near that could be 477 00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:24.799 different because of being not dead Near, and I'm excited 478 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:30.279 to see that stuff. But man, uh, speaking of voice actors, 479 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.039 because I played it so long ago when I was 480 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.039 dumb and never like registered and stuff. Whenever I hear 481 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:41.319 Grimore grimwore of Weis's talk. I can't not hear uh Illogan, 482 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:46.319 storm Rage or Akahiko anymore. Oh yeah, uh that's really. 483 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:48.160 Messed me off for uh Ocera. 484 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.000 Yeah. The voice actors are wild. 485 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:53.920 Yeah, Oh my. 486 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.200 God, the performance like near replicant. I like when I 487 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.319 look back and listen to the banter between them when 488 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.720 you're when you have the full group, it's it's it's incredible, 489 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.839 Like this is near sound like the it sounds so natural, 490 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.440 and everyone is like an extreme version of whatever character 491 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.960 they are, Like Kaye is fucking off the rails, Grimmar 492 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.440 Wess is sassy at shit, and Emil is just like 493 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.519 the most wholesome boy. So they're they're they're on the 494 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:24.119 ends of their own spectrums so much so that they 495 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.079 that they're just like it's like no other game. I 496 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:29.359 don't think many other games have like this sort of 497 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.880 group dynamic where everyone is like so vastly different but 498 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.079 works so well together and shouts out to shouts out 499 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.039 to the voice actors who read like they redid their 500 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.000 lines and like the original one is still extremely good, 501 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.000 but redoing it has that the extra edge that you 502 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:45.759 that you want out. 503 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.960 Yeah, it's because I got to compare a little bit 504 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.480 in the in the uh graphics comparison that we did, 505 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.000 and Uh, there are definitely some cases where like when 506 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.559 when they redo lines, you could tell like either like 507 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.440 their heart's not in it or they maybe like forgot 508 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.680 how to like do that character and like it doesn't 509 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.960 quite have the same punch sometimes, but not the case 510 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.160 in this like it felt like it felt like, Okay, 511 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.720 these these voice actors like still know like how to 512 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.119 deliver these characters. Which yeah, like you said, it's just 513 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.000 a testament to them, Ben, I feel you on the 514 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.799 Persona thing. I'm I'm that guy who like because like 515 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:28.599 Persona is like all just like a lot of very 516 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:30.759 prominent voice actors who do a lot of like Jerrpugs 517 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.079 and anime, but because Personas like one of like the 518 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.480 the like formative games for me, I just like compare 519 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.160 all those voices to those. I'm that guy who's like 520 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.119 this is a lot like Persona. It's so it's like, 521 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.279 all right, Kane, like that's just Resay, Like gramar Vice 522 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:51.240 is just Akihiko Boyner, that's just Yoske. Like I'm just 523 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.039 I can only hear Persona characters. Please help me. 524 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.039 I'm the exact same way with PERSONA five characters. I'm like, yeah, like, oh, 525 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.680 that's uh, that's On and that's Regi and that's so Jiau. 526 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:03.480 Same thing. 527 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.920 There is more ghana I heard recently in a game. 528 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.039 I forget what it was, but I remember just being like, 529 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:09.559 is that more ghana? Is that more ghana? 530 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:13.839 I love Cassandra le Morris so much. She's one of 531 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.000 my favorite. My top three voice actors are Laura Bailey, 532 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.039 Cassandra le Morris, and Aaron Fitzgerald. Those are that's that's 533 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.359 those those that's my top three. And uh so Cassandra 534 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.519 Le Morris is Operator six oh in Near Automata and 535 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.799 Operator six oh is so oh. I need to think 536 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:37.079 of that, Like Operator six O is the wildly emotional 537 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.759 one who's all up in two b's ear about about 538 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:43.680 her crying about her life or whatever, and it's yeah, 539 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.920 it's she's great. And that aspect of Near Automat also 540 00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:50.680 fucked me up. It was like, because now I I 541 00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:52.400 know the story, so a lot of the a lot 542 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.359 of the aspects, like the emotional aspects of like the 543 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:58.160 androids robot stuff. It's just it's it's unsettling in a 544 00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.480 weird way. But yeah, that's of shouts out the voice actors. 545 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.960 Yeah, just bug Snacks. She was in bug Snacks. Oh yeah, 546 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.400 that's one of the bug Snacks. I was just like, 547 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.519 that's just that's morgana. It's Morghana. 548 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.319 There's a the girl who works at Survive Bar with 549 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.319 Solid Snake. That's also Cassandrale Morris. And that took me forever. 550 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.200 I was like, I know this voice. I was like, 551 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.039 I know this voice, and then I was like, oh, okay, 552 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.119 that's more Ghana. I get it. 553 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.119 If you would play the English version of Yeah. 554 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.480 Sorry, this is seven, the English dub of like It 555 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:30.440 Like a Dragon. 556 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.119 Yeah, but yeah, speaking of voice actors, I think the 557 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.319 last thing I'll say is I also been watching Yaske, 558 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:42.039 which is the new Netflix anime about the historical black 559 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.880 samurai from like sixteenth century. It's that just came out. 560 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.920 I just I just started watching it this morning. So yeah, 561 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:54.920 it's directed by and produced and made by Lashawn Thomas, 562 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.279 and the main voice the main I've been watching. Yeah, 563 00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.799 I've been watching the English dub because it's I mean, 564 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:03.920 it's I think that there was a lot of effort 565 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.440 put into the English voicing, but also because Lashawn Thomas American. 566 00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.480 So also from from the Bronx b X all day 567 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:16.039 Oh ship actually hit my mic, but yeah, it's h 568 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.119 I'm still getting into it still early on. I'll probably 569 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.640 have more things to say about it later, but it is. 570 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.200 It's fascinating because Lakeith Stanfield, who y'all y'all may know 571 00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.039 from from uh was what's that one movie he did 572 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.559 that was really weird with the horses and ship, uh 573 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.880 kind of low key spoiling Sorry to Bother You? 574 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:33.759 Yeah, Sorry to Bother You? 575 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.640 And he was also in Judas in the Black Messiah 576 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.759 as well as many other things too. But Lakeith Stanfield 577 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:43.640 is incredible. He embodies this character extremely extremely well, and 578 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:45.960 I'm excited to see where it goes. But yeah, still 579 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.279 only spend more time with it. It's also it's animated 580 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:50.079 by Mappa. 581 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:51.759 Oh there you go. 582 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.440 So in the soundtrack by Flying Lotus y'all, Fly Low 583 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.000 oh my. He incorporates like a lot of traditional jazz 584 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.279 Andese instrumentals, but if you know, fly Low Fly Loo 585 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:09.000 does a lot of like ethereal trip hop and it's 586 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.440 it's such a unique thing. I'm excited to watch this through. 587 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.359 Yeah, all right, Ben keep that animate train going. 588 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.640 Oh, I guess I was also playing near in between 589 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.079 doing a whole bunch of other stuff, so I can 590 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:25.799 kind of just bounce off of that a little bit 591 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.920 and be like, Yeah, here's really good. I'm excited because 592 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.759 I never really got around to finishing the game originally, 593 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.400 so this is my kind of chance to to get 594 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.480 back in there and do it again. But really liking it. 595 00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.519 It's still got music that makes me feel emotions, it's 596 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.960 still got characters that make me feel emotions, and I 597 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.039 still remember how to do the fishing quests, and that's 598 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:53.720 what matters. Because I've been for like the last two 599 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.279 nights that I've been playing it, I've just been like, 600 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:58.359 just I'll just knock the fishing quest out. I'm in 601 00:30:58.440 --> 00:30:59.960 the village. I could just go and grab the stuff 602 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.039 from like do it really quick. It's never real quick, 603 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.799 and I never get back to the story. I just 604 00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:06.480 keep fishing. 605 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:07.599 How far are you? 606 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.559 Not as far as I need to be? Okay, I 607 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.160 haven't caught up to where I left off. I'll leave 608 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:20.359 it at that, okay, but I'll get there because I'm 609 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.720 also playing at the same time. Speaking of fishing, uh, 610 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.039 Fantasy fifteen I started it up, and I'm I'm I'm 611 00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.680 in there and I'm doing that. I'm on that sweet, 612 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.519 sweet car ride with my boys. We've got our cold 613 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.039 Coleman camping equipment in the back of our. 614 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.079 Car and your cup noodles on deck. 615 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.519 Yeah from cup noodles. Ignus is making pizza every night 616 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.559 because it gives me like a three stamina boost. I'm 617 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:51.039 into that. Yeah, But that game is excuse me, it's 618 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.839 a it's a nice kind of relaxed game. Like I 619 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.000 don't I kind of kick back every time I play it. 620 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.160 I don't. I don't feel like I like every other 621 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.079 Final Fantasy game I've played, I've been kind of like 622 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.039 forward and engaged in it the whole time. Like seven, 623 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.720 I'm I was moving through and I was on the 624 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.519 edge of my seat during the fights, and even with 625 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.440 like twelve, even though it was the auto program everything 626 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.880 and that, I was still kind of like, you know, 627 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.319 doing whatever. This is between like the just riding in 628 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.119 the car to go places while you're listening to old 629 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.720 Final Fantasy music. It's real kind of laid back time. 630 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.440 And I kind of appreciate that because like in between 631 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.160 doing like video stuff, I can just be playing the game. 632 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.039 I'll be like, oh, I need to go back down 633 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.359 to like turning this quest I've done, because I again, 634 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.400 I keep getting sidetracked by side stuff in games i'm 635 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.720 playing because I'm just doing fishing and hunting in that 636 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.519 all the time. But uh, I'll just set the car 637 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:52.559 to go or I need to go, and then I'll 638 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.079 turn around and do work, and then I hear them 639 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.440 all'll be like, ah, We've made it, and I can 640 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:02.079 just get back into playing whatever it's neat. I don't 641 00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.599 think I'm far enough in it to kind of like 642 00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:09.960 say much about the story, but I'm still excited to 643 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.160 get to the cool stuff that happens in it. I 644 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.480 want to fight Garuda in for the final Fantasy fourteen version. 645 00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:18.920 I'm excited for that. 646 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.920 Oh yeah, and a catgirl shows up at it. Yeah, 647 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.359 I'm like, oh man, I can't. Why can't catgirls just 648 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.119 be real? Is it too early to be talking about 649 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.680 cat girls early? 650 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.960 I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, oh man, Yeah, 651 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:36.880 I like that game. I'm excited to play more when 652 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.680 I have time, and I'm not playing another thing. But 653 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:40.359 the thing that I've been dumping most of my time 654 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.119 into is if Because of course, it's always it, uh 655 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:48.400 and I can't stop playing it u though it's not 656 00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.400 like big new stuff though, it's just me still continuing 657 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.279 to do Like we're on the last Savage version of 658 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.519 the main raid set. 659 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.519 Oh you're on now? 660 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.839 Yeah? That fights so much more in the Savage version 661 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.480 than it is in the regular version, and I kind 662 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.679 of really love it. This is how it always goes. 663 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:15.199 But there's a whole other phase that adds story stuff 664 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.000 and it kind of makes me think about how I 665 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.239 wish kind of that they didn't put extra story stuff 666 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:26.960 in the hard versions of the raids, Like what. 667 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:28.360 Can you can you hit? 668 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:29.800 Hint at what what that is? 669 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.079 Because I'm curious and I don't think I'm gonna I'm not. 670 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.519 I'm not gonna say who it is. But you literally 671 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.159 fight an entirely different boss oh ship like you do 672 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.800 the regular fight up to a point and then big 673 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.559 character comes down and then you fight them al to Mesia. 674 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.039 There you go, Thancrid Prime. 675 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:53.159 Oh flipp I love the flippant the Savage version of 676 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.280 the Dank because it's just it's chaotic all over the place, 677 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:02.280 all our time, and there's no downtime between stuff. But anyway, 678 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.159 approshudn't talked too much about about raid things because there 679 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:06.519 are a lot of people who probably just like, this 680 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:07.400 is done what you're. 681 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.960 Doing, but uh you, I love your passion. I just 682 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.559 I've never played the game, so I have no idea, 683 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:14.559 like Fancred. 684 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:14.800 What is this? 685 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:15.000 What? 686 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.119 I love it? Keep going. 687 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.199 But outside of that, I've actually taken it upon myself 688 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:25.119 to embrace the PvP uh in ZIV, which is not 689 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.599 something normal people do. It's not it's not it's not 690 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.639 great coming from like Warcraft or any other game with PvP. 691 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:41.519 It's it's it's interesting, it's not like unplayable, but it's 692 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.719 it's not the best. But there's a really cool set 693 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.000 of armor that I can get if I continue doing 694 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.960 like ranked arena stuff and if I get to be 695 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.440 in the top one hundred on the data center, I 696 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.320 win it. So I'm going to be beating people up 697 00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.199 until the end of whatever part of the season we're 698 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.360 in and hope that I get that armor because it 699 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.039 looks neat. 700 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.159 Yeah. 701 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.000 I touched PvP once then I was like, because I 702 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.000 wanted to get like extra tomestones. Yeah, because the only 703 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.280 thing left that that gave me like hello tomestones and 704 00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.400 before to upgrade, like before the reset, and I was like, 705 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.840 what the fuck is this? Yeah, what the fuck am 706 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.239 I doing? I was running around and people were like, hey, 707 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.360 you're supposed to be at point D. I'm like point 708 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.800 dse nuts, Like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 709 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.320 They went this weird route where they're like, let's not 710 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.599 do like capture the flag or a game mode that 711 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.719 inherently makes sense when you step like into wherever you're at. 712 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:38.119 Let's do a giant fifty V fifty V fifty where 713 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:42.800 you have to randomly grab points that are worth random 714 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.880 amounts of points. And also when you kill people, you 715 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.519 steal points from them. But also if you don't die 716 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.639 when you're killing people, it makes you stronger. It's just 717 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.079 there's a lot going on, and. 718 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.400 You have a different you have a different action, you 719 00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.559 have a different move set. Also in PvP, you do 720 00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.679 what a fuck a lot of. 721 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.960 Cool things with that layout, Like I love that your 722 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.559 combo attacks are all on one button just moves one 723 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:05.519 to the others the next time. 724 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:06.480 Oh yeah yeah, but. 725 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.280 PvP is is fun with friends. I think you we 726 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.800 used to bring like a whole group of like eight 727 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.440 people in at one point and just kind of be like, 728 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.480 let's run it and try to win stuff because there's 729 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:20.320 a lot of cool awards in it. 730 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:21.880 Yeah. 731 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.440 So I've just been doing doing a lot of raids stuff, 732 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:29.360 doing a lot of PvP stuff, running the near raids 733 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.000 because you have to run all of them again to 734 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.559 upgrade your gear. And that's where I've been at with that. 735 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:37.800 Play ZIV. It's a good game. 736 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:41.119 Final Fantasy fourteen, not not Civilization. 737 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:45.639 You can play SIEV too, but definitely play Final Fantasy fourteen. Yeah. 738 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.360 Oh right, moving on to Evan, You've been playing another 739 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.119 big game that is out this week. Yeah. 740 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.440 Yeah, I've been playing the other hot new game, Snap 741 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.679 Pokemon New. Where you photograph that you character? 742 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:03.400 Why did you type it like that in the sheet? 743 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.039 This is backwards Snap Pokemon New New Pokemon Snap. 744 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.639 I thought this was going to be a judgment show. 745 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.440 I was ready for the judgment show. 746 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.400 I'll get judgment next. But yeah, so before I say anything, 747 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.360 you should read our review on GameSpot dot com by Janney. 748 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.480 It's very very good, very good. She gave an eight 749 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.280 out of ten. She took the approach that like she 750 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.159 played the original when she was a kid, coming back 751 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:25.760 to it, full disclosure. From my point of view, I 752 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.480 only played the original for the first time like a 753 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.320 month ago in preparation for coverage of New Pokemon Snap. 754 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.840 I'll be completely honest. I was rather disappointed by this game. 755 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.159 I felt it was a little too rooted in the 756 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.519 original Pokemon Snap. It tried too hard to kind of 757 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.880 mimic what that game was, and for a game that 758 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.519 came out twenty two years later on much more powerful hardware, 759 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.679 I felt they could have done a lot more with it. 760 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.639 The story in that game is like paper thin, and 761 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.679 it does not conclude in any meaningful way. The whole 762 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.400 game is presented like a visual novel style, with like 763 00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.920 two characters kind of standing there in front of textbox, 764 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.079 and they do this, but it's like, I feel like 765 00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.079 it's Pokemon. It's one of the biggest franchise in the world. 766 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.239 They couldn't do more than just like the same four 767 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.559 animations over and over again in front of a textbox. 768 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.239 There are some animated cut scenes, they're very few and 769 00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.719 far between, and there is some voice acting, but it 770 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.320 only happens sometimes. 771 00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:17.519 Not all the time. 772 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:19.800 Hold on, I'm gonna interrupt you. This is a very 773 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.360 important question. I need you to answer it, please, Does 774 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.360 Professor Oaks still say wonderful whenever you do a really 775 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:25.920 good picture? 776 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.039 Professor Oak's not in this game. It's a new professor. 777 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.199 Does the professor say wonderful? I need to hear someone 778 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.000 say wonderful and a really weird voice. 779 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.559 No, he's I mean, he does have like little quip. 780 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.559 He doesn't say wonderful, but he says little quips just 781 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.519 like great job and. 782 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.239 Like great job is good, but it'll never top the 783 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:43.719 weird like wonderful. 784 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.239 Yeah, it's not that that voice has a very distinctness 785 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.599 to it, which I also love. But this guy's more, 786 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.639 I guess, just regular. He's not really that interesting in anyway. 787 00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.840 I know it's very unfortunate, but yeah, they all have 788 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.119 like like there's this character Rita, and she's like the 789 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:02.079 typical like he he like yay and that's all she does. 790 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.960 It's rather annoying after a while, but yeah, you know, 791 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.760 the gameplay loop is just to take the photos. And 792 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.199 I think the best way to summarize it is that 793 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.119 if you looked at the trailers and you saw that 794 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.039 gameplay and you were immediately sold, like yeah, you'll like 795 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:16.880 this game. But if you looked at it and you're like, well, 796 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.280 that looks interesting, but I want to wait and see 797 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.239 if there's more. Like, no, there's nothing more. There's that's it. 798 00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:26.360 And I honestly found the gameplay loop pretty not fun 799 00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.039 after a while. It's the same courses over and over. 800 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.280 And I made a video about this, which you I 801 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.920 don't know if it's up yet, but it will be 802 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.239 up soon whenever. This podcast well, I think goes up 803 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.599 Friday morning. But the game is also very, very cryptic. 804 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.400 The game does not do a very good job of 805 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.519 telling you what to do to progress in the game. 806 00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.599 You'll like beat a level and then you'll just get 807 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.920 like shot back to the menu, and there are certain 808 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.679 things that you need to do to progress the game 809 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.480 it doesn't tell you about, but then there are other 810 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.679 things added later. It's really confusing, and I found myself, 811 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:55.760 because you know, I played it before release, stuck so 812 00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:57.199 many times, and I was just like, what do you 813 00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.480 expecting me to do? Even in like the original Pokemon Snap, 814 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:01.519 when you finished a level, like Professor Oak would give 815 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:02.639 you a little thing being like if you get this 816 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.199 many points, something cool will happen, or oh, if you 817 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.559 hit this switch to unlock an extra path, something cool happen. 818 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.679 This game doesn't do that. It's very very cryptic, and 819 00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:11.920 it adds all these different things over the courts of 820 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.559 the game you wouldn't know what to do with. And 821 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.480 I know Jenay had the same experience because we spoke 822 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.719 about it. But yeah, I if you love the original, 823 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.559 I guess and you want more of that, that's cool. 824 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.599 But I mean, honestly, this is going to sound harsh, 825 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.440 but like this could have been a GameCube game, like 826 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:27.480 it could have been Pokemon Snap two on the GameCube. 827 00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.440 They didn't do a whole lot with it to make 828 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.320 it take advantage of the switch hardware. It's still un rails. 829 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.239 It's still like very preset levels with preset characters, and 830 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.159 because all the characters are visual novel not animated most 831 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:41.840 of the time, it's like, you know, you could do 832 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.519 three D models on the GameCube. So yeah, I was 833 00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.599 rather disappointed by it. So that's kind of my take 834 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.400 on it. You'll know if you want it is really 835 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:50.079 where it is. 836 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.239 Can I still go to my local Blockbuster and print 837 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.280 out photos? 838 00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.800 No, unfortunately, but you can buy they're making that insta 839 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.280 Stax printer. I forget the name of it, but making 840 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.440 like they're making like it compatible with the switch. You 841 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.119 can print your photos from your Pokemon Snap. 842 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.679 Oh yeah, you're right, Okay, that's actually kind of cool. 843 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:11.599 Uh yeah, I'm I'm actually I'm still interested because uh 844 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.119 I think there's just something about the like relaxing nature 845 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.800 of the original Pokemon Snap that I want like listen into. 846 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.719 I'm reading Jane's review, it's just like the the vibes 847 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.559 of just like I'm just gonna take some cool photos 848 00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.000 at Pokemon. I'm like, yeah, I want to do that. 849 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:30.840 I just want to hang out for an afternoon and 850 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.159 take cool shots of Pikachu. 851 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:36.280 And today I'm gonna get Pikachu on the surfboard again. 852 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:37.320 It's gonna be great. 853 00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:40.840 Yeah. And I remember as a kid, like you know, 854 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:42.639 because because I didn't know to n sxfore, but I 855 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.280 like over to a friend's house and play and like 856 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.480 just like trying to like figure things out of like 857 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.280 you know, like, oh, I heard if you throw this 858 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.199 into like the you know, if you if you lead 859 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.840 the Charmander over to like the volcano, he'll turn into 860 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.760 like Char's ard and he'll like you know, come out 861 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.480 and stuff. And like I just remember like cool shit 862 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.599 like that, like you know, like just sparking my like 863 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.760 imagination and like wanting to like poke at it and 864 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.199 find all like the cool little things. And even though 865 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.480 it's maybe hasn't evolved or like done anything new, like 866 00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.320 you said, like if it still captures that vibe, I 867 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:19.360 think that'll be enough for me. 868 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.559 Yeah that I should say, Like yes, like the actual 869 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.599 gameplay of the Photography, like it's still pretty much the 870 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.239 same and it's still like really good in that respect. 871 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:29.960 The way the game kind of works this time is 872 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.800 that you unlock additional research levels as you go through 873 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.679 the levels, so you unlock a certain amount of points, 874 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.559 and when you unlock new research levels, it gives you 875 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.719 kind of like new versions of the levels, and that's 876 00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:40.880 where you find some of the cooler stuff with the Pokemon, 877 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.239 Like that's where you find the higher level photos. So 878 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.960 it's not like the original Pokemon Snap, where like there 879 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.800 might be something hidden in a level, like you might 880 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.440 have to unlock the next version of the level to 881 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.719 find something like that. But yeah, I mean the Photography 882 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.880 gameplay is still exactly what it was, and like the 883 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.800 new stuff they added, like the like little glowy orbs 884 00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:58.760 they're they're kind of like the pester balls in the 885 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.599 original game. They're very similar, but like, yeah, they add 886 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:03.159 some new things in there, for sure, and that part's 887 00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:04.880 still fun. But even kind of like you said, like 888 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.280 after a weekend or like after and afternoon, like it's 889 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:09.679 up to you, I guess if you really want to 890 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.280 keep going with it, it's there's not a lot there. 891 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.199 You're just going through the same levels over and over 892 00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:15.639 and over and over and over. 893 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:17.559 All. 894 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.280 Right, Okay, what else have you been playing? 895 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:21.960 Right? 896 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.480 Evan hates Pokemon just like Howie hates Persona. 897 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.599 Yeah, no, Pokemon sucks. 898 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.000 No, I mean no a. 899 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.679 Pokemon's fine. No, the game is good. It's just I 900 00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.400 felt it was very bare bones and it felt very 901 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:36.960 cheap in some areas, and for a game that's from 902 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.079 one of the biggest franchises of all time, I felt 903 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.480 they could have gone further with it. But it basically 904 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.119 just does mimic the original a lot of ways. And 905 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.280 if you like that, that's great. I mean, you get 906 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.039 more of that, but anyways, I'll move on. I've also 907 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.360 been playing the PlayStation five version of Judgment. 908 00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.320 Yeah, now you're talking. 909 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.440 Hell yeah, you can go check out on YouTube dot com, 910 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.760 slash GameSpot or GameSpot dot com the video I did 911 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.000 putting the two side by side. I know there's a 912 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.800 lot of controversy around the lighting changes in that game, 913 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.320 and I think I finished chapter two some like five 914 00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:08.760 or six hours into that game, So I think the 915 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.360 biggest thing I'll not the biggest thing the way. What 916 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:13.639 I'll take away from it is that the cut scenes 917 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.480 I don't think look as good as the original because 918 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.480 the original PS four version had a style to it, 919 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.519 and I think that's lost in translation with the new 920 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:21.960 lighting effects. But I think the gameplay looks a lot 921 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.320 better when you're walking around Comrade Show in the day, 922 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:26.960 Like the colors are really vivid and they pop and 923 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.119 they look really nice. And the sixty FBS gameplay really 924 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.519 helps too. So I think it's kind of a toss 925 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.039 up where like I think the game plays very much improved, 926 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.000 but the cut scenes kind of get lost in translation. 927 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.079 But it also depends. I think like the cut scenes 928 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:42.840 in the day look better than the cut scenes at night. 929 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.320 I think some of the cut scenes at night look 930 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.000 particularly dark. I've tried playing around with the brightness settings. 931 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.039 I just can't find a good middle ground. Somewhere either 932 00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:51.800 like the brights look way too bright or the darks 933 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.159 look way too dark. But you know, Judgment is still 934 00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.920 a fantastic game. It's not my favorite game in the 935 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.599 Yakuza series. I think Judgment has it's a little slow 936 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.480 at some points, and the tailing missions are not very fun, 937 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:06.280 but I think the characters are fantastic. I played with 938 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:07.960 the English dub, and I think the English dub like 939 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.639 all the characters are matched extremely well to the people 940 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.400 that they chose to voice the characters in English. And 941 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.000 I guess the question is like, should you get the 942 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.000 PS five version if you own the PS four version, 943 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.199 I would say no, there isn't a free upgrade path 944 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:24.880 and there's no reason to pay for the game again 945 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.239 if you're playing it like on Stadia or Series X 946 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.960 or S, definitely, And if you own a PS five 947 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.039 and you're deciding which one to get, you might as 948 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:33.559 well get the PS five version, cause I think they're 949 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:37.559 both forty dollars at the same price. But yeah, that's 950 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:38.760 kind of what I have to say to it, Like, 951 00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:40.320 there's no reason to pick a backup if you already 952 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:42.480 play Judgment, But if you've never played Judgment, that's absolutely 953 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.760 a good opportunity to do so. And I've only had 954 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.400 the chance to play it in ten eighty because I 955 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.440 don't own a four K monitor, but I'm sure it 956 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:50.719 might look even better in four K. 957 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:56.599 Is Judgment the only RGG game at Stadia? 958 00:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.679 Yeah, yes, because the rest of them are the rest 959 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.559 of the games are on PC like Steam. 960 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.199 Yeah. I was just say I didn't even think about 961 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.360 that they have it on Stadia too, and that that's 962 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.239 the only that's the only Yaka's an experience for the 963 00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.199 stadium people. Yep. 964 00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.440 Well you can search for it too on the search bar. 965 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.079 Oh my god, thanks Google for adding a search bar. 966 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.159 You go to their homepage. How many different things are 967 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.199 there there? It's like two things. It's a logo in 968 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:25.840 a search bar. 969 00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:30.840 I wonder, Yeah, I wonder if they had like a 970 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.679 like an exclusivity deal or something like, you know, I'll 971 00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.719 put it on Stadia first, and then like maybe from 972 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:37.159 a year from now they could put it on Steam. 973 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.159 Yeah, probably like testing the waters. Yeah, there's interest on 974 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:41.840 Stadia as well. 975 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.800 But the nice thing about Judgment is it is its 976 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.599 own entity. You don't necessarily need to play the other 977 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.239 Octa games to know what's going on? So like, if 978 00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:50.039 it's not like a bad thing, if that's your Like 979 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:51.519 if you own Stadia and you're like, oh, I'm gonna 980 00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.280 try Judgment. Do I need to play yakcauz this year 981 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.320 two six? No you don't, so I think that in 982 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.360 that sense, it's fine, But like, I don't know, I 983 00:47:58.440 --> 00:47:59.760 never really jumped on the Stadia train. 984 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.639 Same, it's big. 985 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.880 Same, damn there is there is a stadium train, believe 986 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:06.159 it or not. 987 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:07.440 Stadiums. 988 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:09.760 Yeah, I don't know if I don't know if it's 989 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.440 running really well, but it's there. 990 00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.119 It's it's existing search for things though, you know what 991 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:13.519 I'm saying. 992 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.199 But yeah, you're you love to see more more people 993 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.559 get the chance to play a good video game. 994 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.760 Yes, absolutely, yeah. And I mean the other thing too, 995 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.519 is like if you've never played Yakaza and you're interested 996 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:26.440 in Judgment, you totally should jump into it. You do 997 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.159 not need to play any of the other ones. You 998 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.199 can and you should. But if you're like, oh, I 999 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.480 really like the Detective Angle and maybe you prefer like 1000 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.639 the English job over the Japanese audio, like, yeah, totally 1001 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:35.760 go for it. Play Judgment. 1002 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:38.280 Hell yeah. 1003 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:40.639 Judgment also has the tightest pants in the series. 1004 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.000 Yeah, fact, yeah, yeah, I'm. 1005 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.760 Just gonna throw that out there for anyone who's on 1006 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:46.280 the fence. 1007 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.679 Yeah, takkigamy has he has a sweet leather jacket and 1008 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.400 he's got some six skinny jeans aid acid wash skinny. 1009 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.199 And if y'all are into if y'all are into Japanese 1010 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:04.400 pop culture, you'll notice that he is modeled after Takakimura, 1011 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.880 who is a famous actor in Japan. And uh, yeah, 1012 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.119 I love myself some Kimu taku. 1013 00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:17.719 So fine, fine, man, yes, very much, all right. Uh, 1014 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.280 do you want to talk about your last game? Or oh? 1015 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:21.880 Okay? I didn't know if we wanted to skip it 1016 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.280 for time, but I'm happy to talk about it. It's 1017 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.280 up to you, guys, I guess, uh. 1018 00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:29.400 Yeah, why don't you if you got something to say 1019 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:29.719 about it? 1020 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.800 Sure? So the last game I've been juggling amongst all 1021 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.159 the other releases right now, Shimma Gammi Tense three Knocked 1022 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.840 Her an HD remaster. Try saying that five times fast. 1023 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.159 The This is my first experience with the Shimmigammy Tense 1024 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.239 series because I've mostly just played the persona games. I 1025 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.719 was talking to Matt a Spinelli about it, who's our 1026 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.199 features editor here at GameSpot, and he was basically telling me, like, 1027 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:55.960 you know, if Persona is kind of like, let's go 1028 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.480 save the World, SMT is just very dark and just 1029 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.159 very like the world is ending and you have to 1030 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.039 deal with that, and it's very much that. Like the 1031 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:06.400 first thirty minutes of the game, you're just like, I'm 1032 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:08.000 gonna go meet up with my friends and they're like, 1033 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.079 all right, well, the world's ending. I was like, Okay, 1034 00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.559 that's that's cool. I guess. Yeah. 1035 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:15.519 And you just by the way, you're gonna be a 1036 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:16.039 half demon. 1037 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.519 Yeah, They're like, you got to eat this parasite and 1038 00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:22.360 become the half demon. And it's like, Okay, that's that's cool. 1039 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.440 I guess. You know. Uh, It's it's definitely a departure 1040 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.320 from Persona in that sense, just the vibe of it. 1041 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:29.599 But I do really like it so far. It's definitely 1042 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.480 a two thousand and three PS two game in its roots. 1043 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.599 But the one thing I do really want to talk about, 1044 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.360 which I found really interesting, is that for the HD 1045 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.519 remaster release, they added a merciful difficulty to make the 1046 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.360 game a lot easier for modern players. And I started 1047 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:44.960 the game on Normal, and I played it for a 1048 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.119 while and at one point, like I died and I 1049 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:48.880 went really far back, and I got really frustrated. So 1050 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:50.760 I was like, Okay, I'm going to try the easier 1051 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.639 difficulty and see what it's like. And it's a huge difference. 1052 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.880 Like the game is way too easy at that point. 1053 00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:58.679 You can basically just hit the auto button and just 1054 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.719 breeze through most of the I think there's just too 1055 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:03.960 big of a gap between Merciful and Normal, Like if 1056 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.440 you're playing Normal, you might be in for a little 1057 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:06.960 bit of a challenge, but if you play on Merciful, 1058 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.360 it's a little too easy. I turned it down to Merciful, 1059 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:11.760 and I've been kind of like breezing through the game. 1060 00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.119 I was like, should I turn it back up at 1061 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:13.599 this point? 1062 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.239 So this is this is an interesting thing that for 1063 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.880 me I didn't realize until like a little while ago. 1064 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.760 But there are a lot of RPG fans out there 1065 00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:29.199 who don't like doing the combat, and it seems like 1066 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.880 such a simple thing to like know about. But I 1067 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.960 didn't realize like what extent it was too until I 1068 00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:35.880 was talking to my roommate about it, because I'd recently 1069 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.679 started playing j RPGs, and I'm like, yeah, I really 1070 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.599 like kind of working stuff in persona. I like being smart, Like, ah, 1071 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:46.159 they're afflicted with fire, use win do bonus damage. It's neat, right, 1072 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.760 And he's like, you know, I don't want to waste 1073 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.119 my time with any of that. I just want to 1074 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.079 do the social stuff and see the story and get out. 1075 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.360 And it sounds like that mode is less of a 1076 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.400 curving the different occulty and more of a thing to 1077 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.000 appeal to the people who are just like I just 1078 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.400 want to get my story and not worry about doing 1079 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.239 the combat, which could be a good or a bad thing. 1080 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.960 But yeah, it's the way I kind of see it too, 1081 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.000 is that like it's a long game, and if you're 1082 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.920 just mostly looking for the story, like you said, like, 1083 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.599 this is a great opportunity to just like truly experience 1084 00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.239 just the story, You're not like, well, do I have 1085 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.840 to commit sixty seventy eighty hours to this game. I 1086 00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.239 don't know how long it is because I haven't finished 1087 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.280 it yet, but I know we'll only talk about like 1088 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.000 an early part of the game. But yeah, it's it's 1089 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.119 it's a little too easy. But yeah, I mean for 1090 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:34.760 people that just want to experience a story. This is great. 1091 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:36.360 This is a great opportunity to play this game and 1092 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.039 just truly get through the story. And I know there's 1093 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:40.159 I know there is multiple endings in that game. So 1094 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:41.840 this is also a good way too to just like, oh, 1095 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.320 I want to experience all the endings. I can go 1096 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.480 back and just kind of breathe through those ending sections 1097 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.159 again if I don't know when you necessarily start the 1098 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.280 path towards any different ending, but I would assume it's 1099 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:51.199 a lot easier this way. 1100 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.199 Well, right on, all right, Well, I guess time to 1101 00:52:54.280 --> 00:53:05.360 move on to our topics for the week. All right, 1102 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.159 and we're back with topics. We do not have that 1103 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.679 much going on, but there is one thing that appeals 1104 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.719 to all of us here, and that is that related 1105 00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.559 to what Evan was talking about earlier. Judgment. Uh, there 1106 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:22.880 has been a tease for Judgment Day, which is not 1107 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:29.719 Terminator too related, damn it less unless where you gotta 1108 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.719 go too's getting getting the terminator license. 1109 00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.760 Yes, terminator and wow, love to see it. 1110 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:39.360 Make it like a dead soul's or you just like 1111 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:40.440 kill a bunch of terminators. 1112 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:43.480 I mean, yeah, they've they've they've done like that before. 1113 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:48.960 They could, I think it would fit. It turns out 1114 00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:51.000 Modum has been a terminator the whole time. 1115 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.039 But no, this is a teas for May. 1116 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:03.880 It's just called Judge Day, and uh, they're they're pretty 1117 00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.960 cagy on what it's about. Obviously it's got something to 1118 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.400 do with Judgment the video game, because I think on 1119 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:16.519 the actual website itself they show like footage of Judgment 1120 00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.679 and you can see like an image of Commerci in 1121 00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:23.320 the background. They're we're not sure what it is yet, 1122 00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.480 but a lot of people are speculating that it is 1123 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:32.239 a Judgment too, mainly because it's still rated pending at 1124 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:36.320 the bottom. And if this was something like a Judgment, 1125 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:38.800 you know, like Steamport or something like we were saying, 1126 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.239 they would hopefully be rated. Also, it'd be kind of 1127 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.920 weird if they like just put out the game on 1128 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.840 other platforms and then make like a whole big deal 1129 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:47.480 out of a day thing just to announce like a 1130 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.639 Steam version like that'd be super weird. So it's probably 1131 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:51.559 something bigger. 1132 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.079 Say. The The other big tip off that it probably 1133 00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.320 is a sequel to is they've had that contest going 1134 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.840 on every day where you retweet this tweet that they 1135 00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.880 put out and it enters you in for a contest 1136 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.559 and they tweet you back saying if you want or not, 1137 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.679 And each one always has like a small, like six 1138 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.440 second clip in it. And I don't know how many 1139 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.400 like yakasa people you guys follow on your Twitter timeline, 1140 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.360 but I see like eight or nine of these a day. 1141 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:24.840 There are videos in those clips that don't exist from 1142 00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.440 regular judgment. There are completely new scenes that we've never 1143 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.639 seen before. So take that however you want. 1144 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.800 I guess it's interesting too because in those at the 1145 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.320 end of each video it gives you like like a 1146 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.599 letter and a number thing, and the ones that are 1147 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.760 from supposedly the new game or a bunch of asterisks, 1148 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.000 so it's like they're definitely teasing something there. 1149 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.519 Things removed they're dangerous, too hot to handle Judgment day. 1150 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:55.199 That figured since we're all here and we're big, we're 1151 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:57.880 big Yakaza fans, we're big Judgment fans. I just wanted 1152 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.199 to talk about what we would like to see out 1153 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.239 of a judgment too, Like what are you guys like 1154 00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:08.800 hoping for both like story wise, mechanically, Yeah, you got something, Ben, 1155 00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:09.800 I want. 1156 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.559 I want Yaga Ko to go and clear out ghost 1157 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:18.000 gaunted houses together. Okay, all right, I want them to 1158 00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:22.239 bust ghosts like they bust all of the bad gangsters 1159 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:26.480 and people on the streets. Where's this coming from, the 1160 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.119 fact that they've got just a really good dynamic And 1161 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.159 someone mentioned it to me at one point, and I 1162 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.159 really think that the dynamic would work really well as 1163 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:35.960 like a ghostbusting. 1164 00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:36.679 I mean, you're not wrong. 1165 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.800 Yeah, yeah, I'm into it of detectives, and I want 1166 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.280 that more than most things. 1167 00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.639 I want, uh no, more tailing emissions please? Yeah? Oh yeah, 1168 00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:48.440 definitely that. 1169 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:53.440 Yeah, I think I don't know, this is kind of 1170 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.360 a I guess a soft answer, but like I would 1171 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.960 just want more judgment. I think that the way that 1172 00:56:58.039 --> 00:56:59.840 the story unfolded in the original, and like how it 1173 00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:02.920 was like this unfolding mystery until you eventually got to 1174 00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.800 this point where like everything tied back together, I thought 1175 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.079 was just like really well done for a detective mystery. 1176 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.239 And I was like, yeah, just give me another one 1177 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:10.400 of those, just give me more. 1178 00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:11.920 Yeah. 1179 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:13.920 It was even surprising for a Yakuza game, where you 1180 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.159 you sort of expect expect that kind of shit, but 1181 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.840 like the the the big reveals and like the true 1182 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.639 nature of what was happening was. I think they did 1183 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.880 a really good job of keeping it kind of keeping 1184 00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.480 it still mysterious. Even by the time that you see 1185 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.199 all the information, you're kind of like, oh wow, I 1186 00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:37.719 didn't I didn't see that. So but yeah, I think 1187 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.400 that definitely definitely hit hit hit that kind of thing again. 1188 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:42.679 Oh yeah, total. 1189 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:47.559 I think, uh, realistically, i'd also kind of want to 1190 00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:49.880 see I mean, realistically, of course I want to go 1191 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:57.599 stuff always, but realistically I think I want more uses 1192 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.320 of using evidence you find till I can deduce things. 1193 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.199 Because I was like, we're gonna get put into like 1194 00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:07.599 court cases, I'm gonna be able to like yell things, 1195 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.039 Phoenix rite status. It's gonna let me do all the schools. 1196 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:11.519 And there's like one time when you get to do 1197 00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:14.800 like some questions a in a courthouse and I was like, 1198 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.320 that's okay, I guess this is fine and need to 1199 00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:19.519 do it, but I want I want that. 1200 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:22.880 I definitely feel you on that because the most of 1201 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.840 that stuff was for bonus like experience points, but it 1202 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.719 didn't have an effect on the story. But I mean 1203 00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:32.000 the way rgg's the their storytelling has never been about 1204 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:36.559 like branching paths, So I like, I would wonder how 1205 00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.199 they would incorporate consequence of like whether or not you 1206 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.840 like if you maybe if you get different scenes. But 1207 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.800 I imagine they wouldn't want to or they I don't 1208 00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.840 think they would do something where you get different results 1209 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.400 in the story. But maybe maybe that's something they're gonna try. 1210 00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:53.639 That would be fucking dope. 1211 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.079 I'd imagine just do it like they do it and 1212 00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.679 Doug and Rappa, where if you pick something, there's like 1213 00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.199 three sentences where it's like, oh no, that can't possibly 1214 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.360 be it, and it makes you a choice again yeah, 1215 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.239 like Phoenix, right, and it's still Yeah. 1216 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.800 What if it's like Red Dead where it's like you 1217 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.880 could be a good detective or a bad detective and 1218 00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:11.480 you liked on a. 1219 00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:16.480 Slider bad detective yogamy, Yeah, you just beat up people 1220 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.719 and flipping what is it deer's in his sleep, which 1221 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.480 he got the evidence, but at what cost? My pants 1222 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.840 are too tight and my sight was too short? 1223 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.199 Yeah, Like what if you know, at the beginning of 1224 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:32.280 the game, you're like looking for evidence on like camera, 1225 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:33.519 like if he did it, and then you know you 1226 00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:35.320 talked like that. One guy's like, oh yeah, the security 1227 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.159 camera deletes every seven two hours. But if you're like 1228 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.119 beat him up, and it's just like you just beat 1229 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:40.239 you've become bad. 1230 00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:44.199 Every dialogue option just has to beat him up option. Yeah, 1231 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.800 in the middle of questioning someone and you're like, I 1232 00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:48.079 had it with this, just punch. 1233 00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:50.960 It's like you're on the verge of just breaking through 1234 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.280 with new evidence, like actually, you know what, I've had 1235 00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:53.639 enough of this. 1236 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:54.480 I'm gonna be jazz. 1237 00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:58.199 Yeah, and then like you know, maybe like uh, you know, 1238 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:00.480 like at one point, Will like ditch. He's like I 1239 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:02.559 don't like who you've become, and like you're left on 1240 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:03.840 your own and. 1241 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.119 The battles are harder because you don't have your partner. Yeah, 1242 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.679 why you know what I'm saying, that's that sounds like 1243 01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:11.480 a difficult development task. 1244 01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.559 But you know what, Yeah, that's true. I'm fine with 1245 01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:17.159 just another straight narrative. More judgment, give me more judgment, me. 1246 01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:20.440 Too, combat systems dope. I really I really like how 1247 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.280 Yogamy functions in comment because he's so acrobatic, so doing 1248 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:26.800 the flying kicks and all that shit. I'm like, yeah, well, 1249 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:29.840 these are the vibes right here. But also I'm like, yo, 1250 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.800 they're gonna get They're gonna get Takyo Kimia again, like 1251 01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:35.679 that foils. I imagine that was kind of an expensive 1252 01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:38.320 thing because his likeness is not cheap. I'd imagine that 1253 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:40.440 boy is. He's like one of the most popping actors 1254 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.400 in Japan, so they could bring him. I mean obviously 1255 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:44.880 gonna bring back Yagamy. I don't know if they have 1256 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.480 like a lease on his likeness the lease, Yeah, I 1257 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:50.519 have a lease on his likeness. There's there's also another 1258 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.920 there's also like there are I mean, the Yakus has 1259 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.000 done this before, but they use. 1260 01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:57.000 The likeness of a lot of Japanese actors. Yea, they 1261 01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:58.480 like I forgot his name. 1262 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.440 I think it's ah the the your your boy who's 1263 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:04.760 also a he's kind of a dirty detective, but he's 1264 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:05.880 super health. 1265 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:14.119 You mean judgment, Yeah, because he did a bad thing. 1266 01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:19.119 No, that was that's homor yeah later replaced also that 1267 01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.760 whoever that was our Pierotoki. He didn't really do a 1268 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.519 bad thing. He had definitely has some coke and it's like, ah, fuck, 1269 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:29.519 y'all got me. I hate see it, but yeah, Abe, 1270 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:31.800 like he's also a Japanese actor. He's in the he's 1271 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.039 in the show that I'm watching called Oral Boros, which 1272 01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:39.440 is basically a live action version of Judgment. Really, so 1273 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.440 that's that's pretty dope. It's like, Oh, because I watched 1274 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.039 that show, I'm like, that is a guy from Judgment. 1275 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:45.920 I know him. 1276 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:48.199 He's playing the same type of character as well. He's 1277 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:51.599 like the slightly suspect but dirty detective who has who's 1278 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:52.320 doing the right thing? 1279 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:54.519 Uh So that that's that's my guy. 1280 01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:55.920 Wasn't. 1281 01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.679 The reason there wasn't karaoke in Judgment was because like 1282 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:02.320 paying for like that that actor who did yagam to 1283 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.239 like sing would have just been like way too expensive, 1284 01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:04.920 so they didn't do it. 1285 01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:08.800 Yeah, because he's he's like a legit performer room so 1286 01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.880 probably no karaoke because I say it's like bring karaoke back? 1287 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.000 Is a real performer. Have you not listened to his 1288 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:17.840 actual band? 1289 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.239 But he is grandfathered in because he is the face, 1290 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:22.519 he is the voice of the franchise. 1291 01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:27.440 Yes, you're right, but also I don't want to downplay 1292 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.519 that that man, yes makes shit happen. 1293 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.239 Yeah, yeah, I agree with all you guys. I think 1294 01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:36.639 the big thing I would like to see outside of 1295 01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.960 like yeah, like more you know, like courtroom stuff more 1296 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.440 like decision making and the investigation stuff would be I mean, 1297 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.519 I would hope that they would expand outside of Comrocho. 1298 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:49.800 Like you know, Judgment took place entirely in there, and 1299 01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:51.760 I think it worked very well for that that story. 1300 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:56.119 But I would love to see them branch out. I mean, 1301 01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.599 this might be out of rgg's wheelhouse because they do 1302 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:01.559 kind of just sort of like kind of like urban 1303 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:05.039 metropolitan areas. But if you want to do like a, hey, 1304 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.400 we're going to head to like a small countryside town 1305 01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.360 with like a murder mystery happening, you know, maybe like 1306 01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:16.639 or some kind of ship going on, like you. 1307 01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.320 Know, have RGIG make deadly premonition O. 1308 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:26.239 A A A then then literally. 1309 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.880 Like a small town. I'm like, murders. 1310 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:32.960 York. 1311 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:35.840 I can't believe we've abandoned. 1312 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.119 Him, Damn York and Yakami. 1313 01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:40.679 What if you can go to Yokohama and there's a 1314 01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.440 side quest where you can help a certain yakuza and 1315 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:45.639 his gang of RPG players. 1316 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.559 Of the Budding Businessman. 1317 01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:49.960 Yeah, a holdings company. 1318 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:53.559 Holdings Company is was caught for tax evasion. 1319 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:54.559 I needed to get him out. 1320 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.800 I fully expect there to be a there's got it. 1321 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.480 They got to do some sort of crossover, right, Like I. 1322 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:03.440 Mean, I know, I know Judgment they were trying to 1323 01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.000 like make it separate. But yeah, maybe now that like 1324 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:08.119 like a dragon is also taken off in the West, 1325 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.440 maybe they'll be like a little cute thing in the 1326 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:14.719 corner not or something right like, yeah, because there's are 1327 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.039 there any outside of just comorocho, Like, are there any 1328 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:19.320 references to Yakuza games in Judgment? 1329 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.960 Total clan is right, yeah, but you don't need to 1330 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.239 know about the there's a isn't there a sub sub 1331 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:27.360 sub story with. 1332 01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:29.079 Yes? 1333 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:29.679 Okay? 1334 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:31.719 And they make a they make a cure you joke 1335 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:33.639 where they're like, oh, the last guy, you know, he 1336 01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:36.480 had big shoes to fill, and you know is like, 1337 01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:38.079 oh man, that sounds really hard. I don't know if 1338 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:39.599 I'd be able to live up to that guy. And 1339 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:40.079 it's like. 1340 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.360 You got you got the fish pouch and the cute 1341 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:46.000 fisher boots. 1342 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:51.679 For any fisherman. Yeah, soup hat yet. 1343 01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.480 I the p S five version of Judgment, I would 1344 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.320 imagine the others have all the d l C from 1345 01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.280 the PS four version, so like you get all these 1346 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.159 little statues of like onometio and like Harka on stage 1347 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.000 and I put them around Yogamy's office and dance. 1348 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:05.599 Yeah. I don't know if you guys mess with the 1349 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:09.119 DLC for that game much, but they make Yogamy dance 1350 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.199 and then he gets health back, and it's my my 1351 01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:16.880 favorite implementation of like a DLC healing item i've ever seen, 1352 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:21.440 Like they actually cut out parts from uh the best 1353 01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.519 one is from a Oh God, why can't I think 1354 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:30.119 of the name? Am awful Majima's best song to karaoke. 1355 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.320 And over the over the top, to the top. 1356 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.159 Yeah, their actual dance dance moves cut out of twenty 1357 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:38.360 four Hours Cinderella that you can make Yogamy do with 1358 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:41.960 the healing items. You can literally make him in the 1359 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:43.760 middle of the street just like do a like a 1360 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.000 front flip and then wiggle his finger like the finger 1361 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:52.039 ship and it's it's wonderful. If you have the remastered version, 1362 01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:57.760 please don't sleep on checking out those items. Uh yeah. 1363 01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.679 Also another thing that they should get in judgment to. 1364 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.559 It's gonna be real difficult. I'll probably take a lot 1365 01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:06.639 of hours of dedicated work and and and making sure 1366 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.800 it's fine tuned and everything is great. But I want 1367 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:10.960 more Kao shirts. 1368 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:16.360 Yeah, I want Kao shirtless. 1369 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:21.119 I mean, look, he's next Tojo guy. He's got to 1370 01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:23.440 get his shirt off all the time. 1371 01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.199 Did he ever take a shirt off in judgment? 1372 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.880 Maybe we need more shirts for Kaido to wear so 1373 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:31.159 we can rip them off more. 1374 01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.400 Yes, yeah, yeah, then your Ben is Ben's on points 1375 01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:35.960 well go. 1376 01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:38.280 I literally rolled out of bed into my chair for 1377 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:39.199 this podcast. 1378 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:45.199 I've always loved when they like pull like the suit 1379 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:47.480 jacket and the shirt off just by doing one single 1380 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.079 arm motion and everything just comes off in one sweep. 1381 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.039 You don't have to like take the jacket off and 1382 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:52.920 then pull up the shirt. 1383 01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.840 It might be uh, I might be giving away a 1384 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:56.360 good idea here, but I've always wanted to make a 1385 01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:58.519 montage of every single time they do that. 1386 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:05.719 I was literally about to say the best Yaka shirt ripoffs, because. 1387 01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.000 That's like a thirty minute video. 1388 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.880 I mean there's good ones with him also, like you 1389 01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.599 can put in there. There's also in the middle because 1390 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.599 the six were like here you rip your shirt off 1391 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.039 and has a wet suit on underneath with a snorkel. 1392 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:19.719 Like, yeah, you put that one in there. 1393 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.320 Uh. It's also just like the one in uh judgment 1394 01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:26.920 at the beginning when he rips off his homeless person 1395 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:31.320 outfit and just his beard and everything is gone. 1396 01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:36.480 It's he's got sweet leather jacket and skinny gan. It's like, Wow, 1397 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:38.000 this fool is wearing layers. 1398 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:40.360 That's what I was thinking of, because that's when I asked, like, 1399 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:41.840 did Kait not take his shirt off? It was that 1400 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.119 scene when y'all gi me pulls off his homeless personal 1401 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:45.400 because I knew they did that in the game. I 1402 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.000 knew he did that arm motion. I just didn't remember when. 1403 01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.760 I gotta use that animation for God Juice, that animation 1404 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:53.719 for all you can r. 1405 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.199 Gg way, nothing wasted. All right, We're gonna move on 1406 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:08.800 to some listen air question. Okay, so if you want 1407 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:11.519 to give a send us a listener question, you can 1408 01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.840 hit us up at after Dark Podcast at redventures dot com, 1409 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.760 or you can join our lovely discord. We have a 1410 01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.119 channel there where we people can submit questions. If you 1411 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.079 want to join our discord, you can always hit me 1412 01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:26.479 or Lucy James up on Twitter. I'm at John Lake 1413 01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.800 Psyche and Lucy's at Lucy James Games. All of our 1414 01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:34.359 questions today come from our lovely discord. I'm going to 1415 01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:36.039 start with the first one. We're gonna try and hit 1416 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:37.880 a couple that we weren't able to hit last week, 1417 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:42.319 as well as some new ones. This is from Trilins, 1418 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.479 who says, do you have a controversial, controversial remake slash 1419 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.720 and next gen version of a game that is your 1420 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:53.239 way to play the game instead of the original? I e. 1421 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:55.800 Metal Gear Solid three came out on PS two, but 1422 01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:57.439 you could play it on three DS. 1423 01:08:58.119 --> 01:08:59.840 I have opinions about both of those games. 1424 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:02.479 Particular, Okay, I want to hear that. 1425 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:05.840 Uh Meddle Gear Solid three on the three DS is 1426 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.319 even though it lets you crouch walk for like the 1427 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:12.039 first time ever in the entire series. 1428 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.560 Well, I think it like borrows from like four, right, 1429 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:18.439 It's like it did, looks like it. Yeah, I think 1430 01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:19.800 it came out after four. I think it came out 1431 01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:20.199 after four. 1432 01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:23.199 Either way, it's great you can crouchwalk and Meddle You're 1433 01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.279 Solid three, But that game is inferior to every other 1434 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.239 version of Metal You're Solid three because it is a 1435 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:31.560 three D game where the main character is stereo blind, 1436 01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.359 and that doesn't make sense. 1437 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:35.960 I say it. 1438 01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:37.840 I say it all the time in the office it's 1439 01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:39.640 my go to joke for it, and I have to 1440 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:41.800 say it on the podcast because it's just the thing 1441 01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:45.000 that I do, and I'm sorry, but you can't do 1442 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:45.680 that shit. 1443 01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:50.920 God damn, this has got opinions anyway. 1444 01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:53.000 I hope the delivery worked for that. 1445 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:57.880 But yeah, no, it's good, yes, yes, excellent. I'm actually 1446 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.039 kind of struggling to think of like a controversial version 1447 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:03.319 of a game I play. 1448 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.720 I don't know if this is controversial, but the first 1449 01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:07.439 thing that came in my head was ape Escape on 1450 01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:10.119 the Loose, which is the PSP version of the original 1451 01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.119 ap Escape. I've never played the original ape Escape, but 1452 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:15.640 I was also talking to Matt Spanley about this and 1453 01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.439 he was talking about how like the voice acting is 1454 01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:19.680 a lot better in the original than the PSP game, 1455 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:21.520 and I was just like, well, I just know the 1456 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.960 PSP voice is better. So I don't know if that's 1457 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.439 considered controversial, but that's one where it's just like, I 1458 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:28.039 like the PSP version a lot. 1459 01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:35.880 Yeah, maybe maybe for Twin Snakes. Anybody no played it. 1460 01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:37.640 I've never heard of. 1461 01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:40.359 Twin Snakes. 1462 01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:42.000 Yeah, played the ps one version. 1463 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.279 We I love that we actually managed to play through 1464 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:45.600 that whole thing. In the office. 1465 01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:47.479 Yeah, it was a good time. 1466 01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:48.439 It was a very good time. 1467 01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:53.520 Yeah, twin snakes, it's worth experiencing. But I don't know 1468 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:54.960 if it's better. 1469 01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:58.319 The real messed up thing is I've I realized during 1470 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:01.600 that playthrough that my memory of lines that I quote 1471 01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:04.079 is from that version of the game and not the original, 1472 01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:07.199 because I've played it so much, so I'm more of 1473 01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:10.119 here quoting the one that I like less. 1474 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:11.720 Damn. 1475 01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.359 Maybe this is a tricky one, but I feel like 1476 01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:19.760 we've talked about this many times before, but Persona three 1477 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:24.920 Portable might be the I don't know if I I 1478 01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:29.279 reckon God damn it, Persona three Portable only if like 1479 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:33.800 only to play the female main character, because she's she's 1480 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.279 the best Persona protagonist, But you lose obviously, we've talked 1481 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:41.000 about how you lose the sort of the presence because 1482 01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:43.560 you can't you don't walk around in the cities and 1483 01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.479 all other stuff. You kind of lose that, and that's 1484 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:48.359 one of the best aspects is kind of living in 1485 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:50.520 that world and you just kind of move a cursor 1486 01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:53.359 across a map instead, which doesn't hit the same But 1487 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.399 god damn it, if the female main character ain't the 1488 01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.560 best in the series and the music that comes along 1489 01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.399 with it. I would I'm so close to recommending Persona 1490 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.359 three Portable over any other version of Persona three, But 1491 01:12:07.319 --> 01:12:07.640 I don't know. 1492 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.600 Man, that's a good that's a good answer, because I 1493 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.880 feel the exact same way, and like I never know 1494 01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.600 what to say whenever someone's like which version and I'm like, well, 1495 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.079 it's like do you have to you have you have? 1496 01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:19.640 You have? 1497 01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:20.359 You have a minute? 1498 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:21.279 Like can we sit down? 1499 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.479 We need that FBS remake with the with the lady 1500 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.439 protagonist in it, and then just ship that and then 1501 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.079 make that like never have to worry again. 1502 01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.560 Make that like Strikers. So when you're going through uh, 1503 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:39.159 what's I forgot the name of, when you're going through Tartarisk, 1504 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.159 it's just Striker's gameplay because I started fast and like, man, 1505 01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:43.680 tartarist is not fun. 1506 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:47.760 Yeah, he'll you stick with it. 1507 01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:51.159 But yeah, I ended up putting it down because a 1508 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:54.880 Pokemon snap and judgment some T three. But yeah, it's 1509 01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:56.680 like I like the story so far, but it was 1510 01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:58.560 just like the gameplay loop. I was like, Nah, this 1511 01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:00.279 is a that's in this. 1512 01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:02.520 Yeah, you should play it on easy. It's it's it's 1513 01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.640 almost kind of like the the SMT three thing that 1514 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:08.079 you were talking about that normal is sometimes like you 1515 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:09.319 can you can beat it on normal. 1516 01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:10.159 I play it on normal. 1517 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:12.640 It's fine, but there are some like really you might 1518 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.560 run into some roadblocks and some cheap uh gameplay elements, 1519 01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.000 And I think that bumming it bumming it down the 1520 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.000 easy makes it a little too easy. But at the 1521 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.000 same time, I think Persona is such a Persona three 1522 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.960 is such a good story experience that I think that's 1523 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:27.680 the better way to go. 1524 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.920 Well, I also just hate that you can't control your party. Yeah, yeah, 1525 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:32.600 they do their own thing. It's just like, well, of 1526 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:33.920 course I'm gonna put it on easy, because if I 1527 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:35.159 put it on normal and they screw me over, I 1528 01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:35.800 have no choice. 1529 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:40.439 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Persona three is uh, it's it's got, 1530 01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:42.239 It's got a lot of really cheap stuff in it. 1531 01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.800 Thinking back on it, which I still love it the most, 1532 01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:47.760 is still my favorite one that I've played. 1533 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:50.159 Yeah. 1534 01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:52.960 Also yeah, yeah, from a gameplay perspective that, yeah, you 1535 01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.000 can control your whole party in Persona three portable. 1536 01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:57.439 How about that that's true? 1537 01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:01.279 What would that be like? Would be like if Mitsar 1538 01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:06.399 didn't cast Mary Karen all the time, Karen, imagine. 1539 01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:10.920 A damn all right, Michael, would you like to read 1540 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:11.319 the next one? 1541 01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:12.119 Uh? 1542 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.399 God, damn this fucking question, Ken Levine said in a 1543 01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.920 Ken Levine said in a cup clubhouse room. First off, 1544 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:22.920 First off, that is those are some wild words to 1545 01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.399 start something off with Larry Fox thirty two, you are Wyland. 1546 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:27.840 But you know what, I'll read the rest of this question, 1547 01:14:28.439 --> 01:14:31.479 Ken Levine said in the clubhouse room. I don't know 1548 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:34.079 why it's so funny to me that video game writers 1549 01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:34.960 are graded on a car? 1550 01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:36.520 What the fuck is this? 1551 01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:38.439 Okay? Would you agree? 1552 01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:41.880 Also, even with games celebrated stories like Last of Us, 1553 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:43.520 are they actually good or just good? 1554 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:44.479 For video games? 1555 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.239 I think you just need to look at Persona and 1556 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.560 Yakuza and you can already see that games can tell 1557 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:50.399 incredible stories. 1558 01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:53.640 I don't know about it. It's clubhouse nonsense, but I'll 1559 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:56.920 tell you right out, flippid. Last of Us Part two 1560 01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:59.159 wasn't even the best revenge story game that came out 1561 01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.880 that year, and people slept on the real the real winner, 1562 01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:05.479 which was Shark Game. 1563 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:06.640 Shark Game Man. 1564 01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.479 Has a better revenge story than the Last of Us 1565 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.159 Part two? Will you do accept it? 1566 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:13.960 Did I will tell you the ending of Man Eater 1567 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:14.760 left me shook. 1568 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.439 It's it's it's one of the smartest, really most well 1569 01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:21.399 written games I've played in so long, with so much 1570 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.239 to say, and it actually has a great revenge story 1571 01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:27.760 that works out better than the last of Us Part 1572 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:29.079 two play Man Eater. 1573 01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:31.640 That that came gets into this some like wild like 1574 01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:35.600 uh like snarky, but just like on point, like messaging 1575 01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:40.960 about like social social commentary, capitalism, the destruction of the environment. 1576 01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:44.199 Profited off of shark fins. Go eat them off with 1577 01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:47.239 a golf course, literally eat the rich, do it? 1578 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.159 Damn you know. It's I guess kind of a side tangent. 1579 01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.439 But I went to like a preview event for Man Eater, 1580 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:55.439 like right before the world closed down, and it was like, 1581 01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:57.039 I wasn't I didn't really get into it because it 1582 01:15:57.159 --> 01:15:59.119 was just like the pressure of like being there and 1583 01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:01.079 a bunch of stuff going on. But like I posted 1584 01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:02.680 a gameplay clip of that. I think it did like 1585 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:04.640 a million views, and I'm like hearing you guys now 1586 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:06.279 that it's out say all these really nice things like 1587 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:08.680 maybe I misjudged it, Maybe maybe I should get another shot. 1588 01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.359 You gotta look at it. Face value, it's not difficult 1589 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.079 to kind of dismiss the game where you play as 1590 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:20.199 a shark that gets electrical fins. You don't expect, you 1591 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:24.079 don't expect to have smart things come from that, but 1592 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.840 you should. It's good. It's good time. 1593 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:28.720 Damn, that's that's a good show. 1594 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:29.000 Yeah. 1595 01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.560 I don't know. I would say I think I sort 1596 01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.079 of just like naturally, like think this is a weird 1597 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.800 argument to have because to me, it's like it's not 1598 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.319 that they're graded on a curve, it's that, like I 1599 01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:45.239 think just video game stories are naturally have to function 1600 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.960 and like be formatted differently, you know, like is sort 1601 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.039 of the thing they have to exist in their own medium. 1602 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.359 And like maybe where it's easier to draw that comparison 1603 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:59.239 is like when when a game is more like trying 1604 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.720 to aspire to be like a different medium in terms 1605 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.159 of its story without like properly taking advantage of like 1606 01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.039 the medium of video games, because it's like you couldn't 1607 01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:14.880 tell the story of PERSONA five in in like a 1608 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:18.079 in any other way. I think they try and tell it. 1609 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.880 You can't even tell it in an animal anime, doesn't 1610 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:23.000 it doesn't hit well. 1611 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.159 I mean, maybe I would go that far. 1612 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.800 But like this, like the act of living in that 1613 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.439 world is a part of its story, Like you what 1614 01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.520 the actions that you were doing with your controller in 1615 01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:35.600 the way in which you interact with that world is storytelling. 1616 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.359 And that like like you said, it's it's not better 1617 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:39.439 or worse, it's different. 1618 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:42.439 Is a great example. But even more so, there are 1619 01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:46.239 games like bring it back to to Near you literally 1620 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:52.920 can't do near in any other genre, like that ending 1621 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.600 in Automena. I can't speak for the stuff and replicate 1622 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.840 because I haven't gotten there obviously, but that that ending 1623 01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:01.439 is not possible in a book, It's not possible in 1624 01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:06.119 a film, it's not possible in a spoken traveling bard tale. 1625 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:10.880 You have to like actually play that and experience it 1626 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:14.279 and do it, and it can only be done that way. 1627 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:17.760 Yeah, And that's why I say that that your actions, 1628 01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:21.199 your your own physical investment in it is a part 1629 01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:25.079 of that storytelling because like it's asking it's asking you 1630 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.600 something that you built, something that you you you own, 1631 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:32.279 it's asking you to do something very drastic with it, 1632 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.239 and then once you do, then you get the Then 1633 01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.960 you get that narrative payoff. Then you kind of realize 1634 01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:39.800 what the game is trying to tell you what it's 1635 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.640 trying to say. So I think that, And I mean 1636 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.239 there are cases in which games try to be like movies, 1637 01:18:47.159 --> 01:18:50.359 and I think that's fine, that's not necessarily like things 1638 01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.880 that hit for me, and I think those things can 1639 01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:55.600 be very well done, and we've seen that many times. 1640 01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:58.359 But for me, it's like it's like the games that 1641 01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:01.199 hit different, like like the Personas, like the Nears, like 1642 01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:04.439 the Final Fantasy fourteens, because like Final Fantasy fourteen, the 1643 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:06.319 reason why you get invested in that world, like, yeah, 1644 01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:08.479 it's a grand tale of like saving the world, but 1645 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.600 your personal investment in that and the like just the 1646 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.159 the way you interact and move with that world and 1647 01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.840 the memories that you have of living in that world 1648 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:20.880 is is like that's how you get invested in its 1649 01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:23.520 big moments. Those big moments matter because you live in 1650 01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:24.119 that world. 1651 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:25.079 So it's just. 1652 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:29.199 I have I have no context for what Ken Levine 1653 01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:32.960 said in a fucking clubhouse room, so I actually like, 1654 01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:38.479 I can't really say anything about that. But yeah, this 1655 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.760 this the answer to this question goes well beyond whether 1656 01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:45.279 it's stories. Game stories are good or just good for games. 1657 01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:48.800 They're different and they are very powerful in their own 1658 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:53.640 right when they're done like correctly or when they're when 1659 01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:54.199 they're done well. 1660 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.279 So and it's it's also like, because we were just 1661 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:00.239 talking about this with like Judgment, and like you know 1662 01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:02.680 with RGG games, like would they do a branching narrative 1663 01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:04.600 because they don't typically do stuff like that. I think 1664 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:07.520 those games like are on a very set cinematic narrative. 1665 01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:10.439 All the cut scenes are framed extremely well. Sure, and 1666 01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:13.600 that's a game that's like it very much is a 1667 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:15.079 movie in a lot of ways, but it still does 1668 01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:17.600 it extremely well. I wouldn't, you know, like that's I 1669 01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:20.000 think Judgment is one of the better detective stories I've seen, 1670 01:20:20.520 --> 01:20:22.800 So in that sense, like I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, well, 1671 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:25.000 like you give Judgment a past because it's a video game, 1672 01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:26.640 Like No, I think that game is incredible in its 1673 01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:29.319 own right, and that game is a very set linear 1674 01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.760 path that you go down to beat the story. 1675 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:35.319 Yeah, and like so yeah, you mentioned like Yakuza being 1676 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:40.119 Yaka's is very much movie like, But for me, it's 1677 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:43.760 like the Yakaza is so unique because the things that 1678 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:46.279 you do in that game also are attached to the 1679 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:49.840 wide emotional spectrum that it hits like it's goofy as 1680 01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:52.319 hell and it's very serious. So like when you've beat 1681 01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:54.439 no Bad Dudes in a really silly manner, in the 1682 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.439 very serious moments, it's like it's just it just makes 1683 01:20:57.479 --> 01:20:59.680 sense because it's a video game, and that's that's the 1684 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.960 the tone, the attitude, the ethos of Yakuza. And also 1685 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.760 I think maybe this just extends to Japanese media for me, 1686 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.119 but I've noticed that, like I gravitate towards Japanese media 1687 01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.920 because they're very good about like stripping down kind of 1688 01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:17.119 the They often strip down what you what we would 1689 01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.479 think as subtext and just make that shit very apparent, 1690 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.159 so then you can like move beyond just like oh, 1691 01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:24.800 figure out like what what characters really mean and what 1692 01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:26.479 the story really means. Like we're gonna tell you straight 1693 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.159 up exactly what the character is feeling, what the story is. 1694 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:34.279 But in a way that's like a deconstruction of trying 1695 01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:37.279 to be I don't know, trying to be cryptic with 1696 01:21:37.359 --> 01:21:39.520 your storytelling, and then you really get to the core 1697 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:43.000 themes of what that piece of media is trying to say. 1698 01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:46.800 Yeah, it's like with with with Yakuza, it's like I 1699 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:48.479 just I don't think it would it would be it 1700 01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:50.800 would be good, like obviously, like I would enjoy it, 1701 01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:52.479 but like it wouldn't hit if you were just like 1702 01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:55.600 take all the cut scenes and put them together as 1703 01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:57.119 like the movie. 1704 01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:01.840 I've watched, it's actually pretty good. 1705 01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:05.840 But you know, I go to but because for me, 1706 01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:08.760 what makes yakas of work is like it is the 1707 01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:12.000 ways it takes advantage of being a video game. Like 1708 01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:16.119 the huge part of those games is like the environment 1709 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:19.319 is like the setting of Camarocho as like a character, 1710 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:23.119 and you get that by spending time in there, by 1711 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:26.600 walking around in there, and like it uses you know, 1712 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.199 the act of like exploring that space as a video 1713 01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:33.319 game to endear you to that world and that setting 1714 01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:35.119 and and kind of makes you feel the same way 1715 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.199 Cure You does about it, where you're like, ah, like 1716 01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:39.239 you know, I can't stay away from this place, and 1717 01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:41.319 you kind of get used to the town and all 1718 01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:44.640 the different people and then stuff like side stuff like 1719 01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:46.840 you can do like a Yakuza movie or even a 1720 01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:49.479 TV show where it's like hey, in this episode, uh, 1721 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:53.119 you know, cre You's gonna go like to. 1722 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:56.000 The arcade, go to the arcade and do that, or 1723 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:57.439 he's gonna go for eight hours. 1724 01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:01.720 Yeah. Uh, it's gonna go do a whole cabaret club 1725 01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:03.640 thing for like five the. 1726 01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.720 Cabaret club arc and the yakas anime though let's talk 1727 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:07.159 about that. 1728 01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:12.920 It would totally be all over the place. But I think, like, 1729 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.079 because it's a video game and you have that like 1730 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:18.199 established language of like this is side content and it 1731 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.600 can be weird and it can be different. Like video 1732 01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:25.680 games have that established language that makes that work, and 1733 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:28.720 players kind of understand that, and so you're able to 1734 01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:31.039 play with that and like be more weird and experimental 1735 01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.039 in a way that you really couldn't if you're in 1736 01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.560 a movie. It would just be like tonally a mess 1737 01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:38.920 and all over the place. So like it's even though 1738 01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:42.319 it is being very cinematic and movie like in a 1739 01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:44.159 lot of its presentation with its cut scenes, I think 1740 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.920 it still uniquely takes advantage of the medium of video 1741 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.600 games to do interesting things with its tone and its narrative. 1742 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:56.960 Yeah. Also, Ken Levine, you're responsible for BioShock Infinite, So fuck. 1743 01:23:56.800 --> 01:24:01.920 Out of here. Alrighty moving on, Evan, would you like 1744 01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:02.520 to read the next one? 1745 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.399 Sure? I don't know how to say this person's name, 1746 01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.159 but I'll read the rest of it. So I recently 1747 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:11.880 ended up using the body Recovery Squad services in Valheim 1748 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:14.079 and it was one of the best, most organized responses 1749 01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.159 I have ever received when it comes to customer service. 1750 01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:18.439 I suppose the question is have you ever had your 1751 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:21.159 appreciation of a piece of media increase after interacting with 1752 01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:24.000 the fan base as opposed to the opposite, aside from 1753 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:25.880 the game spot after Dark Fans, And that was from 1754 01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:27.680 Ian Chilada. 1755 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.560 I think, yeah, that's a fantastic name. 1756 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:32.760 Perfect Well, thank you Ian for the question. 1757 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:34.920 I'm hunky, Michael. 1758 01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:37.199 I feel like we might have a similar answer to this. 1759 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:38.359 I don't know if you want to say it like 1760 01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:39.560 on a counter of three or something. 1761 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.359 All right, one to Final Fantasy fourteen. 1762 01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:48.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go first if you want to, oh. 1763 01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:53.159 Sure, like Final Fantasy fourteen. I think that is for 1764 01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:57.279 an MMO, it's intimidating. I've talked about this many times. 1765 01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:59.800 Is that you know MMOs are intimidating. There's a lot 1766 01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:01.359 of there's a lot to handle, and there's a lot 1767 01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:04.119 of pressure, especially in a multiplayer setting that if you 1768 01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:05.520 go into a dungeon or if you go into a 1769 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:07.039 boss fight that you need to know what to do 1770 01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:09.239 otherwise you're gonna get a flamed by the people that 1771 01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:12.920 you're playing with. Final Fantasy fourteen community is at least 1772 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:14.760 in our experience, like I'm not gonna say one hundred 1773 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.359 percent across the board because if you, if y'all ever 1774 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:19.720 use party Finder in the high level content, it's just 1775 01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:21.840 a little different over there. But like to get through 1776 01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:23.960 the main content, like to get to the core stuff 1777 01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:27.760 of what Final Fantasy fourteen is, I've almost had like 1778 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:31.520 one hundred percent success rate in terms of having matching 1779 01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:35.000 with people who are supportive or at least like if 1780 01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:36.960 you fuck up, they're like, don't trip, it's all good. 1781 01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:41.800 Fourteen has uh like it it's low stakes enough. But 1782 01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.239 but like the community is like, oh, you're you're you're 1783 01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:48.800 playing this game for the first time. Yo, welcome to 1784 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:51.800 like one of the best games ever. And that like 1785 01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:56.079 people are react very positively to having new players rather 1786 01:25:56.119 --> 01:25:58.079 than like, oh you're new, but whatever. Like when I 1787 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:02.359 jump back into Wow recently, I was griefed a lot, 1788 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.840 and I think that because I wasn't I was just 1789 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.399 trying to figure things out again. But it just it 1790 01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:09.960 felt it felt a little hostile from what I was 1791 01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:13.239 used to jump into fourteen, Like everyone's like, oh, you're 1792 01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:15.680 playing fourteen, yo, let me let me give you something, 1793 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:18.840 Let me emote to you, Let me like wave my 1794 01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:23.920 my a, yeah, my glowing ones with you and h 1795 01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:26.640 and cheer and celebrate that. Oh, new players here, this 1796 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.560 is cool. Uh, it's it's yeah. The community has been 1797 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.920 very supportive, and I think that that's helped me appreciate 1798 01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.319 its world a lot. And I think that I think 1799 01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:39.680 it comes down to two things. Is that the naw 1800 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:44.520 Kiyoshida and their community managers and the way they communicate 1801 01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:48.520 with the fans is very sincere and very open, also 1802 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:52.840 very receptive to the fans, and I think that he 1803 01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:56.159 has such a such a such a strong demeanor and 1804 01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:59.039 setting the tone for what Final Fantasy fourteen is and 1805 01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:02.359 what that community should be, so shouts out to them. 1806 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:06.640 And also I think that Final Fantasy fourteen's story is 1807 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:08.720 so strong in such a central point of the game 1808 01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:12.520 that it's that story is center around very like being 1809 01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:16.159 very empathetic and like, yeah, you save the world, but 1810 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:17.680 the way in which you save the world is a 1811 01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:20.159 very it's a very intimate thing. It's a very personal thing, 1812 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:23.279 and it's and like it's storytelling. So I think that 1813 01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.159 the people who connect with the game, who want to 1814 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:29.920 be there are invested in that that story, so they 1815 01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:33.239 kind of carry that same ethos into the way they 1816 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:34.800 carry themselves into the community. 1817 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.319 So yeah, Final Fantasy fourteen. 1818 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:41.199 Yeah, I guess, just to add on to it, it's 1819 01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:43.560 because as soon as I heard or I heard you 1820 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:46.039 read the part about the body recovery squad for Valheim, 1821 01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.399 because it's that's an entirely like player run thing, like 1822 01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:52.039 that's yeah, that's that's players going out of their way 1823 01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:55.439 to go into a server and help you get your 1824 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:56.000 stuff back. 1825 01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:56.920 Uh. 1826 01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:00.520 And everything that that Michael said is one hundred and 1827 01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:04.960 ten percent true. The community makes the experience of playing ZIV, 1828 01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:08.760 even for people who may have difficult times getting in 1829 01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:11.880 there to play it, feel more comfortable and acclimate and 1830 01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:14.399 eventually be like I feel good about playing the game 1831 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:17.159 with people I don't know, which is wild all into itself, 1832 01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:19.960 and it's a thing you don't ever see because people 1833 01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:22.159 who play games are bad most of the time. I 1834 01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:26.079 don't know why. But the first thing that popped into 1835 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:28.439 my head when you read that was all of the 1836 01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:32.720 player organized stuff that goes down in ZIV that people 1837 01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:37.960 might not know about, like the there's a roving troop 1838 01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:44.279 of like actual like it's like fifteen or twenty characters 1839 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.880 multi boxed called the Songbirds that will jump from server 1840 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.439 to server and will play full concerts in main cities 1841 01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:56.079 on bards and they'll play like anime music, they'll play 1842 01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:59.800 game music, they'll play anything you can think of. And 1843 01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.520 it's great because all of a sudden, like you'll be 1844 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:04.640 hanging out doing your thing on the market board, you'll 1845 01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:07.760 hear like is that the beginning to like the theme 1846 01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:11.279 song from your name? Oh, shoot, what's going on? And 1847 01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:13.840 before you know, there's just a giant group of people 1848 01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:17.560 around these people playing music and it's neat and you 1849 01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.600 don't see that in like any other game. There are 1850 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:24.520 people who in the housing district will build out entire 1851 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:29.439 like buildings to do like a cabaret if they want, 1852 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.640 they're inspired by Acazin they want to run a cabaret. 1853 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.439 They'll build out entire aquariums with like fish that you 1854 01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:37.880 pay money to come in and see, and you get 1855 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:43.640 taken around by a tour guide and just it's wild there. 1856 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.560 I haven't done it yet, but I really want to. 1857 01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:51.760 There's almost every other weekend on every data center there's 1858 01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:56.840 like art parties where people who do really good drawing 1859 01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.920 will post up in someone's house or something thing and 1860 01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:03.119 everyone on the data center is invited to come in 1861 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:06.000 and hang out and talk with other artists and just 1862 01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:09.000 draw characters that come in. And it's just it's a 1863 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.760 group of people just being like, hey, yo, I really 1864 01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:13.760 like how you you dressed up your character. That's neat. 1865 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:15.960 I'm gonna draw it cool. How can I send it 1866 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:17.359 to you? Look at look at this cool thing that 1867 01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:19.079 I did. How do you do that? And it's just 1868 01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:23.680 it's people. It's people coming together and being really cool, 1869 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.920 and I like that. Yeah, it makes me feel good 1870 01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:29.119 every time I log into ZIP knowing that's always going on. 1871 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:32.640 You come through limps of omensa lower decks and you 1872 01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.279 know what you're gonna get. Yes, Yeah, there's I think 1873 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:38.359 the ways in which the game lets players be expressive 1874 01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:42.560 and kind of do user generated uh stuff, is like 1875 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:46.079 it lets people be creative, and I think it's it's 1876 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.760 a it's an very inviting because people feel comfortable doing 1877 01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:52.119 those sorts of things in the world. Of Final Fancy fourteen, 1878 01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:53.359 So that's another thing too. 1879 01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:57.079 Yeah, dang place, if please. 1880 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:02.000 You're I guess I know we've talked about Yakaza a bunch, 1881 01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:03.840 but I guess I'll kind of use that one for me, 1882 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:07.359 as like that community of people who play Yakasa are very, 1883 01:31:07.680 --> 01:31:11.880 very very invested in that series and people, I mean, 1884 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.600 for me, like with Persona, I only played Persona five 1885 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:16.439 because Joker was out of Smash Bros. And I was 1886 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:20.439 curious about that. But with Yakuza, it was just like 1887 01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:23.039 so many people. I mean, it's true that like people 1888 01:31:23.039 --> 01:31:25.159 who play that typically don't tend to shut up about 1889 01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:26.600 it for a good reason. I mean, it's really good. 1890 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:30.640 Uh So for me, it was like I just saw 1891 01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:33.039 this bombardment of people who were like gushing over this 1892 01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:34.960 game and then like I started playing it, and then 1893 01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:36.359 like I told you guys about it, and it's like 1894 01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:37.920 that's great and it was the fun. It was a 1895 01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.560 fun time, and especially like with like a Dragon and 1896 01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:43.359 like how goofy and fun Ichiban is like there was 1897 01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.960 a lot of wholesomeness around that. So yeah, I guess 1898 01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.159 for me, like I took that leap with Yakiza because 1899 01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:50.840 I've heard nothing but good things about it from that 1900 01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:52.760 fan based. That community is no I mean, I don't 1901 01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:55.439 know about it like a toxic side of the Yakuza community. 1902 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:57.560 It was just a big, big shout out. So it's 1903 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:01.199 a Yakaza fans that's one of the best groups of 1904 01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:03.000 fans I think out there. 1905 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:06.000 Yeah, there's a lot of love to give. I think. 1906 01:32:06.279 --> 01:32:08.640 I think that's that's Like the thing about Yakuza is 1907 01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:12.399 that people like genuinely have love for what that game 1908 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:14.239 represents and who the characters are. 1909 01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:16.520 So I think that kind of leads the way for 1910 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:17.520 like people. 1911 01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:21.680 It's funny, it's it's a fucking action brawler game where 1912 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:23.439 you beat the shit out of dudes all the time. 1913 01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:27.039 And for the like, the main the loudest part of 1914 01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:30.159 the fan base are the ones who who love the 1915 01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.199 wholesome stuff and like do fan art and say really 1916 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:36.439 nice things about or just like kind of talk about 1917 01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.319 its characters in very endearing ways and connect with the 1918 01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:40.399 endearing side of things. 1919 01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.399 Yeah, totally. My favorite. My favorite moment in any ACAA 1920 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:46.359 game is the beginning of three when you're like running 1921 01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:49.239 that orphanage, like there's no action combat to it, and like, 1922 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:50.680 I love this very very much. 1923 01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:54.000 More stressed old man trying to cut up an onion 1924 01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:56.880 for curry and he can't, can't do it right. Kids 1925 01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:57.960 are running around and. 1926 01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:59.760 Then like there's that girl like on the beach and 1927 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:01.479 he's like, you know, kids like made fun of her 1928 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:03.119 at school because like you don't have real parents and 1929 01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:04.960 like Ki, He's like no, like we're a real family. 1930 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:07.439 And I was like, uh, this is so wonderful. 1931 01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:10.840 It's like those games. What those games have to say 1932 01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:12.399 set the tone for everything else. 1933 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:19.279 Yeah, be spicy lended hands plays a please. I'm just 1934 01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:21.039 gonna ask everyone to play a whole bunch of games 1935 01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.840 on this podcast. 1936 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.159 All right, we're gonna We're gonna end it off with 1937 01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:27.800 one last question, Ben, do you want to read the question? 1938 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.279 I have highlighted a little bit down. 1939 01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:34.239 I don't think you see that a little yeah, yeah, yeah, 1940 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:34.600 I see it? 1941 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:35.479 Okay. Cool. 1942 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:40.920 Having heard people describe food as having good mouth feel, lately, 1943 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:44.600 I started thinking about what makes good button feel on 1944 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:49.159 a controller or related contraption. Which button, in your opinion, 1945 01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:52.800 is the best and or most satisfying and gaming? Also, 1946 01:33:53.279 --> 01:33:55.239 what is the worst and why is the answer to 1947 01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:58.680 the l three stick button monstrosity? Off from any c 1948 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:00.560 is the worst. 1949 01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:02.000 I hate the L three click button thing. 1950 01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.920 Yeah, big, big up on that. Uh. I'm trying to 1951 01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:09.840 think of other bad buttons, least favorite buttons. 1952 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:14.720 Good buttons, all bad bad buttons, my favorite artists. 1953 01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:17.920 Uh, I don't. I think about a lot of good buttons. 1954 01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:24.479 Uh. You know what about the dual sense? The dual 1955 01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:29.319 sense The face buttons are very sinky, is what I'll say. 1956 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:30.119 Yeah, there are. 1957 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:34.199 They feel good to press. They don't feel good to mash. 1958 01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:38.640 I play a lot of motherfucking Hotsimiku Project Diva Future Tone, 1959 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.359 and the dual sense is not great for that. It's 1960 01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:43.239 I don't think the dual sense is great for fighting games, 1961 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:45.000 and I don't think it's good for rhythm games. It 1962 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:46.560 is great for everything else though. 1963 01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:50.520 That's an interesting point. I played. I played Person of 1964 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:52.359 four and five dancing on my PS five. Maybe I 1965 01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:53.880 should have tried it on PS four. 1966 01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:55.880 Play that's where it's at? 1967 01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:59.600 Yeah, oh yeah, real nice and clickie this we got 1968 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:00.800 a du Shock three. 1969 01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:03.279 This I found my worst button. It's not a button, 1970 01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:06.600 it's the gosh dang deepad from the Dual Shock three. 1971 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:08.960 The worst thing I've ever had use in my life. 1972 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:11.159 You can't play fighting games on that if you. 1973 01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:14.079 Do understand over the over the three sixty. 1974 01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:17.960 I will take the three sixty deepad. It's mushy and 1975 01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:19.920 it makes me feel like I'm not doing anything. 1976 01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:24.159 There's weird spacing on the deepad too. It's like oddly space. 1977 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.319 Nintendo ruined, uh the industry when they they copyrighted or 1978 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.800 trademarked or whatever the end the snesty pad, because like 1979 01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:34.680 that thing was so perfect and like no one else, 1980 01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:36.079 like everyone has to make it like their own, like 1981 01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:39.439 weird version. And I'm like, man, if only like we 1982 01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:41.039 could all just treat up copy that deep pad. 1983 01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:43.800 Every controller perfect Taube controller. 1984 01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:46.359 I was I was gonna say, speaking of best most 1985 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.359 satisfying buttons controllers, I was gonna say GameCube like that 1986 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:50.760 big green a button. 1987 01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:52.640 And like the n X buttons kind of being you 1988 01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:54.000 know what I don't you know what I don't like 1989 01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:56.840 on the GameCube though. I don't like the trigger. It's 1990 01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:00.279 got this weird hollow like springy sound when you click 1991 01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:01.680 it like control. 1992 01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:05.760 Yeah, I think I like it in games like Mario Sunshine. 1993 01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:10.039 The games built around the GameCube like GameCube controller flawless 1994 01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:12.279 for all the games built for it, but like talk 1995 01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.119 about the feel of that trigger, like. 1996 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:16.600 If you play multiplatform games like I played a lot 1997 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.520 of like The Goal of Not the Gold, the Double 1998 01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:19.159 oh seven. 1999 01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:21.800 Fire and play on GameCube. 2000 01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:23.960 Yeah, with a love night Fire, but like the the 2001 01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:26.560 triggers are a little weird for those sorts of things. 2002 01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:27.600 Yeah, I don't know. 2003 01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:30.039 I could see it. I think, Uh yeah, for games 2004 01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.239 that took advantage of like the what's it called the 2005 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:33.960 adaptive trigger where it's like you can push it in 2006 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.000 a little bit or not a lot like in that sense, 2007 01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:37.680 I thought it worked extremely well. But yeah, I guess 2008 01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:39.439 for a game that was also on like PS two 2009 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.640 and Xbox, it might be a little overkill. 2010 01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:46.439 I think the most satisfying button feel has got to 2011 01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:53.159 be like a good cherry MX red switch on a keyboard. Yeah, 2012 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:57.880 nothing more satisfying than a smooth, linear mechanical switch. 2013 01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:00.520 Oh that sits good things. 2014 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:05.560 The feeling of pushing down on a a real good switch, 2015 01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:08.640 trying to do a medal year quote and I couldn't 2016 01:37:08.680 --> 01:37:10.239 do it. My mind is too for AZL. 2017 01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:12.039 Still that's all right. 2018 01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:16.479 In terms of the worst worst button, what was I 2019 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:16.920 gonna say? 2020 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:17.239 Fuck? 2021 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:23.479 Uh ship, I forgot damn it. I would say for me, like, oh, 2022 01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:25.239 oh you know you finished? You got it? 2023 01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:31.760 The the the joy Con analog sticks, Yeah, yeah, I'm 2024 01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:33.680 not big on the joy Cons terrible. 2025 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:38.560 The joy Con analog sticks are the motherfucking wars. Never 2026 01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:43.760 what I ever play a shooter using the joy Cons. 2027 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.039 It's so hell It's interesting because the pro controller is 2028 01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:48.039 one of my favorite controllers. 2029 01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:49.760 Yeah, like controllers. 2030 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:54.319 Yeah, I don't. I don't like whatever you want to 2031 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.600 call the thing on the three d S the analog 2032 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:03.560 on it. I don't want to say nipple right away, 2033 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:05.880 but I'm glad that you went for it for me. 2034 01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:10.279 But like this thing, Yeah, the worst thing about it 2035 01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:13.520 is if you like keep it I'm not sure exactly 2036 01:38:13.560 --> 01:38:14.800 if it's like you keep it in like a like 2037 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:18.039 a moist environment too much like the rubber gets all 2038 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:21.800 like sticky. P three controlers do this as well, because 2039 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:24.640 he like it like absorbs the sweat and your fingers 2040 01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:26.359 in it like comes back out and it gets all 2041 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:29.319 like sticky and gross. I have like a three DS 2042 01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.920 it has like the the rubber on that thing is 2043 01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:38.319 like worn off and it's all it feels discussed. That 2044 01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:41.600 is bad button. Feel some bad button feel I love 2045 01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:45.199 me a good sand wah fight stick button, like the 2046 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:49.800 CLICKI clack of a good a good fight stick. I 2047 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:54.199 love that there's a good it's a good feeling, and 2048 01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:58.680 then bad feel is this is like not like how 2049 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:01.399 it's supposed to be. But when a when it when 2050 01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:03.520 a button, when when the rubber on like a button 2051 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:06.079 kind of gets all worn down and then you try 2052 01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:08.199 and click in and it doesn't click. It's just like 2053 01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:12.960 slowly sinks like it's just it's the most it's it 2054 01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:16.319 feels like it technically still works, but you're like, oh 2055 01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:22.159 this feels awful. I hate it. Yeah, I feel you 2056 01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:22.439 on that. 2057 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:22.800 Yeah? 2058 01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:27.239 Is that all our our do we get all our 2059 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:28.520 good bad button feels out? 2060 01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:30.119 Yeah? 2061 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:32.840 I haven't like my Well, the things that come to 2062 01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:34.840 mind for me are like the three D zero controller 2063 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:38.800 and the Intellivision controller. You never touched them personally so much. 2064 01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:40.199 It's just like a phone. 2065 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.159 Yeah, I've never touched them, but I would imagine that 2066 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:45.439 those are not fun to play. 2067 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.760 Actually, Yeah, pushing the buttons on the intelevision controller don't 2068 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:52.199 work very well because they're like I don't know, I 2069 01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:54.159 don't like break it open or anything, but it's got 2070 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:57.279 like because you put the overlay in it for whatever 2071 01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.800 game you're playing, and then like it's it's like popped 2072 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:05.239 up like thin metal that you're pushing. It's it doesn't 2073 01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:08.000 feel tactile. It feels mushy and gross. 2074 01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:12.079 Yeah, well there you go. Didn't even need to got it, 2075 01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:13.760 got it right, I'll say. 2076 01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:19.279 Underrated controller. The Sega Saturn controller very good, especially for 2077 01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:21.920 fighting games. You want good deep pad, like good fighting 2078 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:24.880 game deep pat out of the box, Sega Saturn. 2079 01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:27.680 That was like designed for games. Thinking about it, it was, 2080 01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:28.520 it really was. 2081 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:31.479 Yeah, no one bought the thing, but damn Sega Saturn. 2082 01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:33.520 You want to play some good fighting games, that's the 2083 01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:35.199 get yourself. 2084 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:39.520 You play dark dark salty Blood behind the taco bell. 2085 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:45.359 Oh man, I love dark Sockers. We're never gonna get 2086 01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:45.840 another one of those. 2087 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.640 Are never get a dark Sockers, never get a powerstone, 2088 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:52.079 never getting new melt. You are getting blood. 2089 01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:54.359 We are getting a new MELTI blood, that's for damn sure. 2090 01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:56.439 But we're never gonna get another rival school. 2091 01:40:58.000 --> 01:40:58.239 Damn. 2092 01:40:58.680 --> 01:40:59.399 You hate to see it. 2093 01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.960 Damn I hate to see it, all right, everybody, Well, 2094 01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.479 I think that's gonna call it in episode. Thank you 2095 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:06.439 so much for joining me. 2096 01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:06.760 Guys. 2097 01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:08.920 This has been a heck of a lot of fun. 2098 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:09.600 This is a good crew. 2099 01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:13.359 Yeah, I know you you're you're a good crew. 2100 01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:15.439 Yeah, you're a good host to thank you. 2101 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:20.119 Appreciate that. Thank you for letting us do our bullshit. Absolutely. 2102 01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:22.359 You know, man, the adults are away and you know 2103 01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:25.920 the kids will play. We'll play crime boys. Well we'll 2104 01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:30.119 play Oh yes, Well that is going to do it 2105 01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:32.840 for this episode. Uh. As I mentioned before, if you 2106 01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:34.800 want to hit us out for questions, you can always 2107 01:41:35.159 --> 01:41:39.800 do it at after Dark podcast at redventures dot com, 2108 01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:42.680 or you can join our lovely discord. We have a 2109 01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:45.560 lot of great people on there hanging out. It's just 2110 01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:49.159 it's just a wonderful community of people. And I just 2111 01:41:49.239 --> 01:41:51.159 want to say to all of you in the discord, 2112 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:53.279 I appreciate you. I appreciate you guys just being in 2113 01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:57.319 there bringing good vibes, just talking about about video games 2114 01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:00.039 and you know, whatever else comes to your minds. You 2115 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.279 guys are you guys are the real ones, and you guys, 2116 01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:05.840 you guys make this job worth doing a lot of fun, 2117 01:42:08.479 --> 01:42:09.520 but very much that's facts. 2118 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:10.359 Yeah. 2119 01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:14.000 Uh, otherwise I think that's gonna be about it. We'll 2120 01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:15.760 catch you all next time. 2121 01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:17.439 Peace. 2122 01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:29.039 Wait, hold on, no cancel stuff news. I need I 2123 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:31.159 forgot to have you guys all do your ship. I 2124 01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:33.159 didn't do this last time either. I'm see I'm a 2125 01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:35.119 bad house. Yeah cut us off. Yeah yeah, you guys 2126 01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:36.760 say I'm a good house. I'm a bad host. Michael, 2127 01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:37.680 where can people find you? 2128 01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.399 People can find me and all of my bullshit at 2129 01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:42.680 Michael p Hi. I'm on Twitter, uh and you can 2130 01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:44.920 find my stuff on games dot Com of course I have. 2131 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:47.600 By the time this goes up, I'll have a feature 2132 01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:51.279 on Neo The World Ends with You, the sequel to 2133 01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:56.199 the World Ends with You, and I will also probably 2134 01:42:56.359 --> 01:42:58.720 after probably on Saturday. Over this weekend, I'll have my 2135 01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.800 interview with Yokutaro as well, So some interesting things happening 2136 01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:02.279 there as well. 2137 01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:08.319 Excellent, Evan, Hello, You find me on Twitter at Evan 2138 01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:11.079 Langer ninety eight because I was born in nineteen ninety eight. 2139 01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:14.960 You can check out the new Pokemon Snap videos that 2140 01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:16.760 should be up on the channel now by the time 2141 01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:19.479 this podcast goes up. Ones on the six biggest changes 2142 01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:22.119 between the original and New Pokemon Snap, and the other 2143 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:24.039 is things to kind of look out for if you 2144 01:43:24.079 --> 01:43:26.920 find yourself stuck because there are certain patterns and things 2145 01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:28.720 you could do the game don't tell you about. So yeah, 2146 01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:30.000 thanks for having me, John Luke. 2147 01:43:30.199 --> 01:43:32.319 Of course, happy to have you on, and we'll definitely 2148 01:43:32.359 --> 01:43:36.560 get you on for future episodes as well. Hell you anything, Persona, Jaquiza, 2149 01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:38.760 Nintendo Zelda. 2150 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:41.159 Zelda, Yeah, all the way, Skytri's HD. 2151 01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:41.600 Let's go. 2152 01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:45.239 I can talk about that for a long time, all right, Ben, 2153 01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:45.720 what about you? 2154 01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:51.359 You can find me on Twitter dot com at Ben 2155 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:57.560 Jenka if you'd like to. That's fine, just publishing videos 2156 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:04.600 and playing games. I don't have much going on. I'm 2157 01:44:04.680 --> 01:44:07.840 being honest. I'm just happy to be here and talk 2158 01:44:07.880 --> 01:44:10.359 about the things that I care about with the people 2159 01:44:10.439 --> 01:44:11.039 I care about. 2160 01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:15.640 Oh, we're happy to have you, all right, and you 2161 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:18.840 can find me at John Legsypeke. You should go check 2162 01:44:18.880 --> 01:44:21.680 out the Returnal review I mentioned earlier by Mike Epstein. 2163 01:44:22.399 --> 01:44:26.479 Go to YouTube dot com, slash GameSpot or GameSpot dot 2164 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.640 com and check those out because it is quite excellent 2165 01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.319 and I had a really good time doing the video 2166 01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:36.000 review for that. Otherwise, you can just stay tuned because 2167 01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:40.039 we're just I'm working on stuff for future games that 2168 01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:44.560 are coming out that's all I can say. But you know, look, 2169 01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:48.000 look forward, please be excited. There you go, and with that, 2170 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:50.239 now this is really the end of the episode. We 2171 01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:52.359 could bring the music back, get it going, spind that 2172 01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:54.680 back up and we'll see you all next time 2173 01:44:56.479 --> 01:45:18.640 Y for real, Don Trante, Don Trante, Dom Frank, don't 2174 01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:19.359 trumping