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<v Speaker 1>There are all sorts of roles in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>criminal investigation, everything from detectives to crime scene photographers and

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<v Speaker 1>forensic lab technicians. But today we are giving special focus

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<v Speaker 1>to the unsung heroes of the force, the canine units

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<v Speaker 1>and the cadaver dogs. Today we talk about one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best cadaver dogs in the business, one who helped

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<v Speaker 1>solve countless cases and even was on the scene combing

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<v Speaker 1>through the rubble of nine to eleven searching for those

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<v Speaker 1>who lost their lives that fateful day. This cadaver dog

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<v Speaker 1>was the best in the business. That is, until one day,

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<v Speaker 1>a bizarre discovery explained exactly why Eagle the cadaver dog

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<v Speaker 1>was so good at what he did. My name's Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool and you're listening to Wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>And Grim true crime podcast. The following material for a

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<v Speaker 1>mature audience listener discretion. Did I hook you with that intro?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You've forgotten this involved a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>You did, and I'm quite excited It's this was a

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<v Speaker 1>weird research one because there's not that much out on

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<v Speaker 1>there on this And shout out to uh Ray William

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson for the the TikTok he put out there that

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<v Speaker 1>hooked me. Onto this case. So yeah, shout out to him. Also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just throwing that out there too.

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<v Speaker 2>You need that today, I really do. I really really

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<v Speaker 2>need that this week, this month. You know, it hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been the best over here, but we're hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're hanging in there. We're doing our thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. As Dory from Finding Nemo once said, just

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<v Speaker 1>keep swimming a right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. I feel that world, the universe, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>just has interesting ways of getting you where you need

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Sometimes that's true, and I guess you just

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<v Speaker 2>have to trust the process.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, trust the process one beer ad a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which I mean is hard to do sometimes though

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, not every day can be the perfect day.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every week can be the best week. So shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to everyone who's going through the not so good times.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Hang in there, keep going, We're right

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<v Speaker 1>there with you. You got this.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we need to normalize that life is not

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<v Speaker 2>always perfect. That some days, some months, some years even

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be a bit shitty, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean your whole life is going to be shitty exactly so,

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<v Speaker 2>And people don't talk about they don't talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>We should do to make ourselves feel better? Though? Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about dogs?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you actually perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do pump. So have you heard anything about

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<v Speaker 1>this this case? Hell no, hell no, you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>Ray William Johnson's post on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Ray William Johnson's also on Facebook on YouTube. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like an old school content creator who, like since TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>he like went through rebranding and like came back with

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<v Speaker 1>a force.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I honestly have to say, I'm not like a

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<v Speaker 2>huge consumer of social media of content.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, fair enough, just the true crime variety.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Yeah, well I'm dog I guess dog stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs is your husky stuff? You feel good husky stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's true. We send that to each other lots.

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<v Speaker 1>But you at least consume a true crime podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>twice a week. I do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I get to sit back and relax and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to be a part of it. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to co host it. I get to co host it

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if only your co host did more working.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, maybe you should write a case once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it's on the list, but I'm drowning in my

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<v Speaker 2>photography work.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, you've got your own business, so I totally

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<v Speaker 1>can't blame you. But let's get into this, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna start off with a woman by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Sandra Anderson. Now. Sandra Anderson was a self

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<v Speaker 1>taught dog handler from Michigan who gained some notoriety in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen nineties and early two thousands for her

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<v Speaker 1>work with a very particular dog. And this dog's name

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<v Speaker 1>was Eagle. So Eagle was a Doberman pincer dog who

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<v Speaker 1>had been trained by Sandra. Now he was a special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dog, known specifically as a cadaver dog. Now

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<v Speaker 1>cadaver dogs are trained to detect and scent or sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>to detect the scent of human remains. So under Sandra's guidance,

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle became began his training in nineteen ninety four when

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<v Speaker 1>he was rescued from the pound. So he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pound rescue.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also I love the name Eagle for a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's kind of a cool name, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly want someone to name like a super tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little lap dog Eagle, because it's just like this like

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<v Speaker 1>big brooding bird with all this like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like little tiny

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<v Speaker 2>lap dogs think that they're they're a big eagle, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like they do. They have that like kind of attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>They they'll go up against like a bigger dog and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then the second that that bigger dog turns around,

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<v Speaker 1>they're usually tailed between their legs. Yeah, but yeah, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we digress. Within five years though, from that day of

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<v Speaker 1>being rescued from the pound, both Sandra and Eagle would

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<v Speaker 1>participate in numerous searches across the United States, often being

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<v Speaker 1>called in to assist on very high profile cases, and

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle was referred to as one of the best in

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<v Speaker 1>the business or even as a prodigy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's like a cool job.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eagle had an amazing talent of locating human bones.

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<v Speaker 1>He human human remains, murder weapons, and other clues that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, archaeologue are called the archaeologists. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>the word archaeologically, but it's the person who does those

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<v Speaker 1>people who dig on crime scenes that how I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>refer to him because apparently I can't say the word

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<v Speaker 1>right now archaeologists there, I just it just came to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Archaeologists and detectives could not do so, Like they're digging

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<v Speaker 1>up for these things, they could not locate them, they

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<v Speaker 1>could not find them. Eagle would come in and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So his apparent ability to find remains where I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>any search effort failed. It earned both Sandra and Eagle

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<v Speaker 1>a very high reputation as being the best in their field.

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<v Speaker 1>So for reference, though, cadaver's dog's sense of smell, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a dog sense of smell really has been estimated

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<v Speaker 1>to be up to two hundred times more powerful than

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<v Speaker 1>any human. So cadaver dogs just really know how to

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<v Speaker 1>zone in in how to utilize this sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>This, I mean quite literally gives them superhuman abilities because

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<v Speaker 1>it supersedes our abilities by two hundred thousand times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy. Well, I know you always are thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>like we see our dog sniff in the air, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're I always wonder what they're I know, smelling,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't smell anything, but they're really onto something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's times where it's like I let it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of fart and you don't notice. My God,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't notice, you don't smell it. But I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's happened vice versa as well. Okay, see no, yeah, liar. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra claimed that her dog, Eagle is even more special

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<v Speaker 1>than that, though she preferred she preferred to call him

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<v Speaker 1>a quote death investigation dog. She thinks that his gifts

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<v Speaker 1>far transcend the bonds the bounds of science. Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine, Sandra Anderson and her highly trained cadaver dog, Eagle,

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<v Speaker 1>were conducting a search along the banks of Mill Creek

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<v Speaker 1>in LaPier County and this resides within Michigan. There they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking for the remains of a missing man by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Sam Conya. Now, Sam was a businessman

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<v Speaker 1>who had gone missing in the area, with no remains

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<v Speaker 1>of him to have ever have been found. As they

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<v Speaker 1>worked the area hopeful to find his remains to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bring some some rest to his case, Eagle suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>stopped and he became alert near the edge of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>After signaling to Sandra, he began barking and all this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, right, indicating that he'd found something. Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>knelt down and realized that he had discovered a bone fragment. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>This unexpected find led to more detailed investigation of the area,

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<v Speaker 1>which was led by the LaPier County Sheriff's Department. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the following two days, Eagle, along with the investigative team,

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<v Speaker 1>unearthed a total of eight additional bone fragments. All of

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<v Speaker 1>the remains belonged to an unidentified adult male, presumably sam Conya.

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<v Speaker 1>Who were exactly what the person they were searching for now.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of this mysterious discovery regained further attention when

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<v Speaker 1>the television show Unsolved Mysteries arrived on the scene to

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<v Speaker 1>document Eagle's continued search efforts. Astonishingly, Eagle was able to

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<v Speaker 1>detect these nine little bone fragments. Get this bury beneath

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<v Speaker 1>layers of sediments submerged in the creek water total of

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<v Speaker 1>two feet down. Seriously, two feet deep under dirt and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like the water's two feet deep. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like under the mud and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy and what are we talking like? You're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Fragments the size of a tic tac. Seriously, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were like in some of the stuff I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing one of them and it's like in the

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<v Speaker 1>palm of their hand, it's like the size of a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>That is impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, yeah, investigators theorize at the size and condition of

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<v Speaker 1>the fragments indicated foul play very much so with the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that the body had actually been dismembered and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>even processed through a wood chipper.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So to find something that's been going through a wood

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<v Speaker 1>chipper in a creek under this mud, on this scene

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<v Speaker 1>out in the bush like that, that is nothing short

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<v Speaker 1>of incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And it had been there a while too, write definitely

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<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't fresh or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>So what made what made eagles achievements even more remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>was the environment which he was working as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>a creek was also a well known area for dumping

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<v Speaker 1>of poachers and the ground was littered with animal bones,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly from deer. So despite the overwhelming prince presence of

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<v Speaker 1>non human remains, Eagles still successfully distinguished the human remains

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the surrounding wildlife debris.

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<v Speaker 2>H I don't even know how. I don't even I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even comprehend how this saw can be doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's extraordinary. Yeah, absolutely extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, just think about it. Though. There are

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary people, right like people that are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have super high IQs or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it makes I wasn't see you. It makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>that there could be you know, extraordinary dogs and stuff too,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like, it just does for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's gonna be people who are smarter than others,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what Sandra's saying. Like Eagle's ability transcends

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<v Speaker 1>like any other dog and like science and everything, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Here this dog was just in the pound.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow, that says a lot about the human race.

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<v Speaker 1>So. While the identity of the man and the circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>of his death still remain unknown, it is clear that

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<v Speaker 1>have never been discovered. The case remains open, with investigators

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<v Speaker 1>still hoping one day maybe they will uncover the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about these fragments found at this Mill Creek site. Now

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<v Speaker 1>another notable case involving Eagle and Sandra Anderson, revolves around

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Now. This happened in December of nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time the couple's marriage was crumbling, and

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<v Speaker 1>where she reportedly found new confidence and independence, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you go girl, getting there exactly. So on December twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>a Zizul, A Zizul. I think it's how you say

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<v Speaker 1>A Zezul is what I'm gonna stick to. Azizuel told

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<v Speaker 1>found in a dumpster outside a restaurant in Dearborn, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>A week after that, a torso belonging to a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>set woman was described sorry discovered discarded in a nearby field.

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<v Speaker 1>When Tracy's sister reported her missing, police quickly suspected that

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<v Speaker 1>the remains were hers and that Azizul might be involved. However,

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<v Speaker 1>without clear proof of her death. Authorities had no legal

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<v Speaker 1>basis to treat the case as a homicide because I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>she's in England, right, yeah, not even remissing persons at

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<v Speaker 1>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So detectives needed more concrete evidence to justify a search warrant,

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<v Speaker 1>but as Yezuel's behavior only deepened with and only deepened

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<v Speaker 1>their suspicion. Surprisingly, when approached by investigators, Zezuel allowed them

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<v Speaker 1>or to his basement. The detectives immediately noticed the floor

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<v Speaker 1>had been hastily painted in an irregular fashion, but has

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<v Speaker 1>Zzel explain that he was merely preparing the house for sale.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, authorities were convinced that Tracy had been murdered and

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<v Speaker 1>dismembered in this basement, and detectives believes that the freshly

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence of her blood being down there. Yet without

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<v Speaker 1>any solid proof, they remained unable to conduct any more

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<v Speaker 1>of a thorough search. Still unable to get a search warrant,

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<v Speaker 1>a Zizuel, seemingly confident, even agreed to let them bring

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<v Speaker 1>eagle into his home to inspect the area.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>So under the law cadaver dogs, this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more reference for you. Cadaver dogs are considered a

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<v Speaker 1>reliable and reliable enough to warrant further investigation if they

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<v Speaker 1>detect evidence, which means you can get a search warrant

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<v Speaker 1>based on the dog's response. Okay, Now, as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra and Eagle entered the basement, Sandra said that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a heavy odor of bleach, which raised concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>whether they might find or it might affect Eagle's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Right, Okay, Yeah, However, Eagles soon began circling

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<v Speaker 1>the room and after a short time, he laid down

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<v Speaker 1>beside a paint tray, barking, you know, signaling that he

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<v Speaker 1>found something. And as was visibly tense with Eagle's behavior

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<v Speaker 1>in what was going on. The dog then led them

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<v Speaker 1>to several other areas, pointing to the floor, a rug,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the wall consistently indicating the presence of a

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<v Speaker 1>significant amount of blood. Thanks to Eagle's findings, the police

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<v Speaker 1>were able to secure a search warrant, and when they

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<v Speaker 1>peeled back the concrete in the basement, they found traces

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<v Speaker 1>of Tracy's blood beneath the paint and bleach. Subsequent DNA

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<v Speaker 1>testing confirmed that the remains found in the dumpster and

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<v Speaker 1>in the field belonged to Tracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this dog, I am in love with this dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle was also able to find what they believe was

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<v Speaker 1>a saw used in the dismemberment with blood still on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and here this guy is just so freaking confident

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<v Speaker 2>that he covered up his mass. Yep, and Nope, no

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Forensic analysis also linked paint ships found in her body

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<v Speaker 1>to the paint used in the basement, further concreting this

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<v Speaker 1>connection between the scene and the murder. Now as Ezul

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested and charged with first degree murder, with investigators

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<v Speaker 1>believing he killed Tracy after overhearing a conversation between her

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<v Speaker 1>and a new lover or boyfriend. The case resulted in conviction,

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<v Speaker 1>and Eagle's exceptional detection abilities were credited as playing a

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<v Speaker 1>very key role in solving this entire crime. Without Eagle.

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<v Speaker 1>Without this dog's work, police doubted they would ever have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to gather enough evidence they needed to crack

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<v Speaker 1>this case. He was a hero, no kidding, so needless

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Eagle is a miracle dog. He was considered

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<v Speaker 1>consistently able to find remains when it seemed like authorities

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<v Speaker 1>were at a dead end. He was able to find blood.

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<v Speaker 1>He was able to find so many different things, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the crime world he had become a sensation. There

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<v Speaker 1>were articles written about Eagle, left, right, and center. They

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<v Speaker 1>were talked about creating a postage stamp with Eagles faced

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<v Speaker 1>on it, even a feature film and much more revolving

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<v Speaker 1>around Eagle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, yeah, I feel like Eagle does need a

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<v Speaker 2>film and all the shit.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I agree, I agree, And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>nine times out of ten Eagle was. When Eagle was

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<v Speaker 1>called to a scene, he would find something each and

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<v Speaker 1>every time, Like not every time, but nine times out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten it was like boom, like on it within minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe that one time out of ten though there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't anything to even be found, right, like, who's.

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<v Speaker 1>True enough Now. Most recently, Eagle was on a hot

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<v Speaker 1>street and for finding bone fragments in particular, much like

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<v Speaker 1>the case I mentioned earlier, when Eagle was able to

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<v Speaker 1>find even the smallest bone fragment under the water, under

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt, it was like two feet down right. Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>was even heard telling stories about two officers about how

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<v Speaker 1>she knew other police dogs and like canine units and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Within the state didn't really like her

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<v Speaker 1>a Egle very much because of how successful they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh geez, that is just like a fucked up sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly kind of is It's like, oh my god, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like us because we're yourself fucking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like this dog is literally out there being a badass, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, solving cases and who the hell wouldn't like

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<v Speaker 2>this dog exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>But she's just like, yeah, they're jealous of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah they are. That's what it's stemming from for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean whether it's it is the publicity, the

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<v Speaker 1>success that was all going to her head or not,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was. But regardless, Eagle was

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<v Speaker 1>on hot streak and no one could deny it. So

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<v Speaker 1>just because they were doing a damn good job together

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that there weren't any issues though. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the case where we talked about in the creek bed

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<v Speaker 1>where bones were uncovered underwater. The bones were assumed to

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<v Speaker 1>be that of the missing man by the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Conya.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember.

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<v Speaker 1>However, once the DNA analysis was completed on these bone fragments,

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<v Speaker 1>it was shown that they were not a match to Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they were the remains of a completely unknown person,

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<v Speaker 1>a missing person authorities didn't even know was missing. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they accredited Eagle to finding a missing person they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know they were looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Eagle had successfully found these bones, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know who they belonged to. Now. Also, in the other

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<v Speaker 1>case of the wife being murdered and the paint, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basement floor being painted over. The saw that they found

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<v Speaker 1>with some blood on it, the DNA came back on

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<v Speaker 1>that saw. The blood on that saw did not match

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<v Speaker 1>the blood of the wife or anyone else of the

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<v Speaker 1>crime for that matter either. So it also was some

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<v Speaker 1>DNA that didn't seem right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that's like odd.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless there was another victim no one knew about, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of they moved on to the next case. It's

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty fourth, in the year two thousand. Eagle had

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<v Speaker 1>been brought to the scene where authorities are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>locate the body of a man by the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Clark. They believed he is buried somewhere near within

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty three acre plot, but not sure exactly where.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where Eagle comes in. With the super cadaver

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<v Speaker 1>dog on the scene. They soon made a discovery three

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<v Speaker 1>bone fragments. Eagle did his thing, sniffed around, alerted, and

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<v Speaker 1>lo and behold they made the discovery. But when the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA was tested, they found two different DNA profiles from

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<v Speaker 1>these bones. That means, between these three bone fragments, they

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<v Speaker 1>held the remains of two different people, and again they

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<v Speaker 1>did not belong to the person they were looking. Four,

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle found the bones of a completely two completely unrelated

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<v Speaker 1>and unidentified victims on this scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, I feel like Eagle is amazing, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like almost opening a can of worms because you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for one thing and then you find like two

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<v Speaker 2>more things and now you have to to like investigate

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<v Speaker 2>this and you have no information. You're just like cool, oh, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another instance of another case he worked. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many cases, like I can't pit here and

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<v Speaker 1>name them all, but there was another one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>at a national park. They brought them on for one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that they they had found earrings, with

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<v Speaker 1>like some some fur that was on it was like

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<v Speaker 1>mink fur, like there's strands, and they discovered it be

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<v Speaker 1>from like a mink coat. Right. Yeah, Now the person

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<v Speaker 1>they were looking for did not have earrings or wear

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<v Speaker 1>this mink coat. But they discovered, like ten year, ten

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty years ago, can't remember what it was, there's

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<v Speaker 1>another missing person in this park who was wearing mink

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<v Speaker 1>when they went missing. And then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>it went from this one missing person's thing to now

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<v Speaker 1>we have and I think there was more like other

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<v Speaker 1>bone fragments or clothing or something that was found. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were several other missing people from like back

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<v Speaker 1>in like the last ten twenty thirty years that are

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden getting brought forward to and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy shit, now we have all this evidence from not

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<v Speaker 1>just this one case, but multiple at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh. Well, I mean yeah, you could probably almost walk

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<v Speaker 2>this dog anywhere and I be you would find things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very alarming.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like that was the case, and it began

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pattern in all honesty. When whatever case

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<v Speaker 1>that Eagle and Sandra were involved in, they searched for

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<v Speaker 1>a missing person they find a bone fragment of sorts,

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<v Speaker 1>and the DNA shows it doesn't belong to the victim

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually looking for. They're finding someone else almost every time.

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<v Speaker 1>In another case, the investigators had a body, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were in search for the bullet that killed the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>They combed the wooded area trying to find it. Forensics

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<v Speaker 1>were able to point to an estimated area where they

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<v Speaker 1>believe the bullet would be. They searched the trees, all

427
00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:01.319
<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff, and they believed it to be

428
00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:03.160
<v Speaker 1>in the ground over here, with how the arc would

429
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.880
<v Speaker 1>be or the landscape. I'm not exactly sure, but they're like,

430
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.799
<v Speaker 1>over here, somewhere here in the ground, the bullet should

431
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 1>be here. Forensics they went over the area. They combed

432
00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:19.799
<v Speaker 1>it on their knees, searching by hand magnifying glasses. They

433
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.640
<v Speaker 1>went over it with metal detectors, not once, but twice,

434
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>inch by inch and found nothing. Eagle was brought to

435
00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:33.039
<v Speaker 1>the scene. Didn't take long. That bullet was found right

436
00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in the spot they thought it would be right where

437
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they were looking. But oddly enough, there was no blood

438
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to be found on the bullet. It was clean. The

439
00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.519
<v Speaker 1>bullet was spent just like it should be, and it

440
00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.119
<v Speaker 1>was right where it should be, but there was no

441
00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>blood on it. And investigators looked over that area multiple

442
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:57.759
<v Speaker 1>times but didn't find it, but Eagle did. For whatever reason,

443
00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the story of this prodigy cadaver dog was turning into

444
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a mystery on itself. This brings

445
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.039
<v Speaker 1>us to Proud Lake, Michigan. Police are working hard on

446
00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a Robert case when one of the robbers turns into

447
00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an informant. He leads officers out to

448
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:18.039
<v Speaker 1>where a cast registers were dumped from the robbery, and

449
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.440
<v Speaker 1>he also tells police, I'm an accomplice that he had

450
00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>by the name of Robert Pickering. Apparently, he was told

451
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>by Robert that previously he had actually killed someone and

452
00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 1>buried their body out in this same area. Now he

453
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure exactly where Robert buried them, but he informed

454
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>police that someone is buried out here. After a bit

455
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:42.839
<v Speaker 1>of searching the area with no luck, Sandra and Eagle

456
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>were brought to the scene together. On their first pass

457
00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 1>the area, Eagle found bones. They would return to the

458
00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>scene again for another search later for a second time around,

459
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:58.079
<v Speaker 1>and again they found bones. However, when asked to come

460
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.559
<v Speaker 1>back for a third time, they were unable to do so,

461
00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:02.920
<v Speaker 1>whether it was booking up or they weren't able to

462
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>quite yet right. So in lieu of the state canine

463
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>unit were brought to the scene other cadaver dogs right right,

464
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 1>and after hours and hours of searching the same area,

465
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they found nothing.

466
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

467
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Nothing.

468
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well I'm confused as shit. I'm getting confused here. Now.

469
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Why are you getting confused?

470
00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because it's almost like Eagles, like, I

471
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know, pulling this shit out of his ass, Like

472
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.119
<v Speaker 2>where is this stuff coming from? Because you think a

473
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>whole unit would find something, right and like the bullet thing. Like,

474
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just getting confused now, But I love Eagles, So

475
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just keep listening it, okay and see where

476
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it goes.

477
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's what you should do. Just keep

478
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>listening and we'll we'll get.

479
00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>There, okay, Okay.

480
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So Officer Rick Keeto, who was the one who led

481
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the canine unit, was an absolute disbelief. How could they

482
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.759
<v Speaker 1>come to the same grounds that Eagle was at and

483
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 1>they searched for hours and not find anything, Yet Eagle

484
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>finds something within minutes. Now, Rick had also worked on

485
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 1>a case before with Eagle. Well, not with Eagle, but

486
00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:10.319
<v Speaker 1>on the same case as Eagle. Right, he worked on

487
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the same case where that bullet was found. He knew

488
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>something wasn't right, something's not going on. He knew something

489
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. He couldn't put his finger on it. He's

490
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>just like, I don't know if I can trust the situation.

491
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Is Eagle's handle or doing something here?

492
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, Rick got in contact with Sergeant Nutt. Not going

493
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to make a joke about that, but he got in

494
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.279
<v Speaker 1>contact with Sergeant Nutt, who would soon be working with

495
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Sandra and Eagle on the scene again. Soon and Rick

496
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 1>told him keep a close eye on Sandra. Something's not right.

497
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 1>So a few weeks later they were on the scene together.

498
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>This is for Eagle and Sandra's third pass around this area.

499
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Both times they found the bones that couldn't come back

500
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to the canine the state they found yea, So now

501
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>they're back after the canine unit found nothing, and Sandra

502
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>was working with Eagle in the search remains the area

503
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 1>for this third time. Sergeant Nutt was there following her,

504
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.759
<v Speaker 1>watching her very closely out of the corner of his eye,

505
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 1>being right by her side. Whatever he needed to do.

506
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 1>He was watching her, and almost like clockwork, Eagle once

507
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>again gets a hit and finds a bone fragment. But

508
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>this time, Sergeant Nutt noticed something no one else had seen.

509
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Sandra is bent down, showing how Eagle had alerted in

510
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 1>this spot. She's got a few people bent down with them,

511
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>and with her left hand she's pointing off into the grass.

512
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And with her right hand, when everyone's watching her left hand,

513
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>she brushes her ankle her pant leg. Now, Sergeant Nutt

514
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't watching her left hand like everyone else was. He

515
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 1>was watching her other hand, and he watched her drop

516
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a bone fragment out from underneath her pent leg onto

517
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the ground.

518
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>What the shit?

519
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, she planted a bone fragment.

520
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, where the hell is she also getting these

521
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 2>bone fragments? Is she a freaking serial killer?

522
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that.

523
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed because, like Eagle

524
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 2>is a good dog.

525
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and okay, wow, Sergeant nut saw this and he

526
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 1>kept as cool though he noticed no one else did

527
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 1>see it. It was almost like a misdirection thing like

528
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a magician. He saw the secret trick and everyone else

529
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was fooled by it. This was huge. He didn't want

530
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to act so quickly or or brash, So after the

531
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>day was over, he conversed with a team during the debriefing,

532
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 1>and no one else saw it. No one else really

533
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>believed him. It was a massive claim, and if anyone

534
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 1>was going to go against it, I mean, if you're

535
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>going to accuse someone actually that whole high profile who's

536
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>gone through all this and done so hard work and

537
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 1>all these things, if you're going to be wrong in

538
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 1>pointing a finger like that at this person, you're going

539
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>to lose your career. So no one really wanted to

540
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>jump on board. However, for Sergeant Nutt, though, it was different.

541
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>He knew what he saw.

542
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he started digging into Sandra, looking into other

543
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.079
<v Speaker 1>cases she worked, other evidence, other things she's found, which

544
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>is when it all came crashing down and led to

545
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 1>one final encounter because of Sergeant Nutt. There was a

546
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 1>massive report that was sent out to many different investigators.

547
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Many people didn't believe, but it was kind of on

548
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the radar and there was an investigation going on from

549
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Nutt into her. Forensic scientist Jennifer Patchan got said

550
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>email regarding this investigation. She didn't really believe in it.

551
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>She kind of brushed it off, thinking, oh, yeah, whatever,

552
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>just some more bullshit, deleted the email. Little did she

553
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>know that Jennifer Patchen would be working with Sandra and

554
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Eagle on a missing person's case very soon, and that

555
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>was of Srida Thomas. In April of two thousand and two.

556
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>While searching the scene with Sandra, Jennifer and her team

557
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>were on their hands and knees, diligently searching the ground

558
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and I mean moving inch by inch, sifting the grass

559
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>through the dirt, ensuring every ounce of that ground was covered,

560
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>looking for remains. Then, almost out of nowhere, in a

561
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>spot where she had just been searching with her team,

562
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Sandra bent down with Eagle and says, oh, we found something,

563
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's two small bone fragments right where they were

564
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 1>just fucking.

565
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you wouldn't be able to miss some kind of thing.

566
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Jennifer and her team knew instantly there was nothing there.

567
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>A moment ago, Jennifer's like, I did miss it, that

568
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there, huh.

569
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>And then this email's coming back to lateay, the one

570
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 2>that's this is Bolsheimer's.

571
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Dola pretty much pretty much yeah, it's exactly the case.

572
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So in the following day, on the same scene, with

573
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>suspicions now very high, and Jennifer now watching her with

574
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a very close eye too. It was on April eighteenth,

575
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two that's when it happened. Jennifer

576
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>saw Sandra reaching into her pant leg and pull out

577
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 1>a bone fragment to plant it on the ground, just

578
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>as Sergeant Nutt had seen before. This time, in the

579
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>heat of the moment, Jennifer pounced and grabbed the bone

580
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 1>before Sandra could actually plant it. The two wrestled over

581
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the bone, with Jennifer outing Sandra on what she had

582
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 1>just witnessed, planting evidence at the scene.

583
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 2>That's actually yeah, that's a big ass crime.

584
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. As a result, Sandra would be arrested on the

585
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>same day for planting evidence and there was a bag

586
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 1>of bones found in her vehicle.

587
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Oh why watch the book? Is the point of this?

588
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, Eagle is a great cadaver dog,

589
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>just like any other one on the force, but no

590
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>different hm. But somehow along the line, Sandra wanted more.

591
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was fame, notoriety, I don't know, but she

592
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>began planting evidence at the scene for example, the saw

593
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>with DNA, for example, the other bones that did not

594
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 1>match DNA. The earring with mink was planted by her.

595
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>It just so happened someone twenty years ago went missing

596
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>in the same area with mink.

597
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

598
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she meant to have mink on that earring.

599
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It was just here's an earring that she's right.

600
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Now, she's just causing chaos though she is, and like

601
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>such a waste of resources too. Now everyone's like, oh fuck,

602
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 2>we want to deal with all.

603
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>This other shit exactly, and it's complicating things, causing more

604
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>taxpayer dollars times. It just it fucks with the whole system. Now,

605
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Sandra didn't kill anyone or obtain these remains in any

606
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>nefarious ways. So to train Kuldaver dogs, trainers are often

607
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 1>given human remains by authorities.

608
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that's.

609
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, they can train. Here's a scent of bone, orr.

610
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 1>But go find it. Here's your training, here's your searching,

611
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 1>go find it in the yard or whatever. Here's a

612
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 1>training course. I don't know exactly what they do, but

613
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they use these remains in training the dogs to actually

614
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>locate them, and Sandra would use us to her advantage

615
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and plant these said given remains at crime scenes to

616
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 1>make themselves look better.

617
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I mean it makes sense I guess that

618
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 2>she has these now to me, because I was like,

619
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, that's like quite a serial killer cover up,

620
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>but still brutal. Yeah, like just brutal. Now.

621
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I went unnoticed in so many cases, though,

622
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>is that not every single little piece of bone fragment

623
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>gets tested for DNA. In many cases, they assumed it

624
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>belonged to the rest of the remains that were found. Right,

625
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, we've got half a skeleton over here,

626
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and she comes to the scene and finds a couple

627
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 1>more bone fragments over there. Oh, it's got to belong

628
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to the skeleton.

629
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you would probably just just you know,

630
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>make that assumption for sure.

631
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there's many cases where that DNA isn't tested,

632
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>But there were many cases where the DNA was tested.

633
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 1>But who's going to think she's planting it? Oh?

634
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Really?

635
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's another missing person, I.

636
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Mean yeah, especially like at the beginning, you would just

637
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<v Speaker 2>never even fathom that exactly, so because just wait, her,

638
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<v Speaker 2>she herself is like in the force, really, right, if

639
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<v Speaker 2>she has this cataver dog. I'm assuming she's also like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a dog trainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well how do you get to be that? I

642
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<v Speaker 2>want to be this like, I'm thinking that.

643
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<v Speaker 1>You shn't train her own dogs.

644
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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've a husky, so that's an excuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I want to be tryed.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I thought maybe like she also has

647
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<v Speaker 2>to be a police officer or something like. I have

648
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<v Speaker 2>no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think she's just like a contractor. Basically, it's

650
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<v Speaker 1>no different as far as I'm aware to like police

651
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>officer bringing a psychic on the scene. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that eagle happens to be a certified cadaver dog

653
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>in I don't know how you get that certification for his.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, I'm going to throw that in the name

655
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<v Speaker 2>of or the hat of should I want to be

656
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<v Speaker 2>when I grow up?

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00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Nichole's retirement job, Like how you added when you want

658
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<v Speaker 1>to or when you grow up? I know there a

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<v Speaker 1>few respectable So in two thousand and three, Sandra Anderson

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00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>found herself facing legal consequences for her actions in court.

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00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 1>She was charged with obstruction of justice and evidence tampering.

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<v Speaker 1>The charges could result in up to thirty years in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh yeah, that's a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of facing the full penalty, though, she chose to

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<v Speaker 1>plead guilty to a series of lesser charges. These included

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<v Speaker 1>two counts of falsely falsifying material facts and making false

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00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>representations sor right, that was on a second page.

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<v Speaker 2>How has it?

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00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Yep? Yeah, so making false representations, one count of obstruction

670
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 1>of justice, and two counts of making false statements. So

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<v Speaker 1>US District Judge Patrick J. Dugan sentenced her to at

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<v Speaker 1>the time being forty four years old, to twenty one

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00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>months in federal prison. Additionally, she was ordered to pay

674
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred, five hundred dollars in restitution fees to law

675
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>enforcement agencies that she deceived, and upon her release, she

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<v Speaker 1>was required to serve three years of probation. One of

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<v Speaker 1>her conditions for the plea agreement was that she would

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<v Speaker 1>be permanently barred from profiting from any of her past activities.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, any income generated from the story related to

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<v Speaker 1>events of her plea would be surrendered to the Department

681
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of Justice. So if there is a movie made about Eagle,

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00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't get a fucking penny.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, fair enough, Yeah, I'm honestly surprised that, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get up to thirty years and like, really,

685
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 2>what she is getting here isn't all that bad. I know,

686
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 2>it's really not that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So now I'm gonna say this and I'm not

688
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 1>taking I don't take this with don't assume this is true,

689
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>take it with a grain of salt. So there. I

690
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>did watch a bit of a an episode on this

691
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing and someone commented, I think it was

692
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<v Speaker 1>on Reddit or maybe it was on YouTube or something.

693
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Someone claimed on there that she had married their dad

694
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's still like a piece of shit. Oh apparently

695
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>she's still a pathological liar type or whatever. That's just

696
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a claim some random person made in a comment section. Huh,

697
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>so just I don't know if it's true, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a comment that I read out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I mean, gosh, if you're doing this to

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<v Speaker 2>this extent, I don't know if you'd, like, you know,

701
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>totally just change your ways and all of a sudden

702
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>become like a saint.

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00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah really I agree. I agree. But that is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Eagle the Cadaver Dog and Sandra Anderson.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, I'm kind of like pissed because

706
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 2>she just like dragged Eagle's name in the muck with her.

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00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>She did, she she did. But but Eagle didn't do

708
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong. No, because Eagle is trained to find human remains. Yeah,

709
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>she presented human remains. Eagle did what he's supposed to. Well.

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00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he was like, God, this dang job is easy.

711
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow, I don't even have to search for it.

712
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I just show up and it appears right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a few people that I've worked with in

714
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the past that are like that. They just show up.

715
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we all know someone like that.

716
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, I just show up.

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00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>They get praised for their job, and it's like, you

718
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 1>ain't doing shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, keep it Like, what happened to Eagle? Do

720
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 2>you even know?

721
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'm hoping Eagle like had a good life

723
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of I'm assuming it's that he he

724
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>he is no longer with us.

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00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean Eagle was rescued from the pound

726
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in ninety four. Yeah, so, so I would assume Eagle

727
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>has passed. But uh, to be fair, Eagle still did

728
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 1>solve many cases. Eagle did find the blood in that basement, right,

729
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagle did solve that case, and authorities said they wouldn't

730
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>have solved it without him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. So, like what it was even the point

732
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 2>of putting the saw in there, I don't know, like

733
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>really just to complicate shit way more, you know, to.

734
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Say we found the weapon or the thing that he

735
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>hacked her up with.

736
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile the guy's down there and being like, the fuck,

737
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that's not what I.

738
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Used, right, Like I used a hack saw.

739
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>No one would believe him, like ever, So that's that's

740
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 2>an interesting position to be in for her.

741
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So so, Eagle was a very good cadaver dog. Eagle

742
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>had a great career. Eagle actually solved, actually solved a

743
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of crimes totally. Sandra was just hungry and greedy

744
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and fucked it all up.

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00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Well. I mean, I guess too, the more or the

746
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.239
<v Speaker 2>more success that he's getting, the more cases the be

747
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>called out too and stuff. So it does it does

748
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.519
<v Speaker 2>mean the more money and stuff for her too, Oh.

749
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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, right, yeah, definitely, And she could probably charge more,

750
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and going to conferences and maybe hey, one

751
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>day we can get a movie made.

752
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, all these different things, yeah.

753
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Which she cannot profit from, which I am very thankful

754
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>for that part of the plea.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, this would be like a very interesting movie now,

756
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>like even.

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00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>More so I would watch it more so now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really would. Yeah, it has a big, a

759
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 2>big twist in there. So I liked this one.

760
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a real good one. It's kind of

762
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<v Speaker 2>like it's still like shitty and talking about shit and stuff,

763
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 2>but it's also talking about like an amazing dog.

764
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So and no one was harmed in this one. I mean,

765
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of course there was, there was cases that they were searching.

766
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>There was murder cases and stuff. But the story that

767
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, no one was harmed. Sandra was just

768
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>being a dumbass, you know, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Pushing her lock really, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you dumbass people, Like, come on, you had a

771
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<v Speaker 1>good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Going, why do you have to Well, yeah, I just

773
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<v Speaker 2>let your dog be the dog that it was, like

774
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<v Speaker 2>it obviously was already doing amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so yeah, hopefully you guys enjoyed that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a little bit of a different tale today. But

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<v Speaker 1>see what I did there, tail.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, I didn't notice. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. So yeah, it was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>different tale today. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Yeah, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I really got to say today. Make sure you check

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<v Speaker 1>out our links and stuff in the description. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget to rate us. You're awesome, You're amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are awesome. And until next time, stay wicked.