1 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,719 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:41,479 going to bring you this week's episode of Drag NAT. 4 00:00:42,039 --> 00:00:45,359 But first I do want to encourage you. If you're 5 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:50,320 enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 6 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,679 Today's program is brought you in part by the financial 7 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:56,359 support of our listeners. You can support the show by 8 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,799 million donation to Adam Graham peel Back one nine one three. 9 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,840 That's Peelbox one five nine thirteen, Boiseatah eight three seven 10 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,319 one five. 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Well the next 22 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:13,039 thirty minute. It's in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department. 23 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,599 You will travel step by step on the side of 24 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,159 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police bilence, 25 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:23,439 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 26 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:25,319 the story of your police force and action. 27 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:31,599 Speaker 4: It was New Year's Eve was cold in Los Angeles. 28 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:34,360 We were working the night Watch out of Homicide Special Duty. 29 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,280 My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Dad Brown, Chief 30 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,960 of Detectives. My name is Friday. I was on the 31 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 way back from dinner and it was eight thirty five 32 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,680 pm when I got to Room forty two Homicide. 33 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: Joe, Hi, Arnie, How was are outside? It's cold? Not 34 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:55,520 keeping people at home though you check the crowds. Yeah, 35 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:59,319 and watching her from the window here seems bigger and 36 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,120 last Year's crazy. You're on with Ben and me tonight? 37 00:03:03,159 --> 00:03:03,560 Is that right? 38 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 5: Uh? 39 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:06,039 Speaker 2: Thought I was gonna have it off. Wife had a 40 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:08,520 little house party planning everything. No, that's too bad. Maybe 41 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,840 next time, huh. And that's what I said last New 42 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,479 Year's I guess you better start moving. Yeah, where's Ben? 43 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,599 He went down the hall a minute, said he'd be 44 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,439 right back. I better take my top coder. Yeah I 45 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:23,520 would if I were you. Nothing for us in the book, 46 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,599 is there, Barney? I almost forgot. Jack Conley called having 47 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:29,439 a little party out of his hospital. Once you were 48 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:31,840 amero to drop around when you get off, said he 49 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,400 called back. 50 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,879 Speaker 5: Huh all right, Jill, alright, ab I ready, yeah, let 51 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:37,919 me grab my overcoat. 52 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: I just take back communications. What sports lit up like 53 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:45,719 a Christmas tree? Just like last year. They're starting off 54 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,719 strong calls, coming in with a dozen. 55 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,319 Speaker 5: I'd like to see it just once, people celebrating New 56 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,919 Year's without tearing up half the town. 57 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:53,199 Speaker 2: I get it. 58 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:58,479 Speaker 4: I'm a side Friday. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well Barney 59 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:01,560 just mentioned it. We'll try and make it. You know 60 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,800 how things are tonight, Yeah, we'll fight. 61 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Sure, thanks a lot. 62 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:08,479 Speaker 4: Jack Conley been on his way home. He wants us 63 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:09,280 to drop by his place. 64 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, get off early. 65 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,599 Speaker 5: Not much chance to that. You ready, Yeah, I am 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:21,120 you by? I guess you can't tell. You might get 67 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,439 a break. The crowds are starting in pretty early. Get 68 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:27,079 chance to break and go home right after midnight? At 69 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:28,079 you get us off early. 70 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:31,639 Speaker 4: And that was the idea last year. Wasn't it, Ben, Yeah, 71 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,720 what time did you get off? Six am? Together with 72 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Sergeant Bonnie Luchak, Ben and I left the city Hall 73 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,920 and started the cruise at the southern end of the 74 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,319 Central Area. As any police officer continure, New Year's Eve 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 for him is one of the hardest working nights in 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:49,639 the year. 77 00:04:50,319 --> 00:04:51,759 Speaker 2: This one was no different for us. 78 00:04:52,439 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: Within an hour, we'd had more than a half a 79 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,160 dozen calls to check out street fights, drunken driving, disturbing 80 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,800 the peace, the usual complaints that i'd expect to get 81 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,519 when a community of three minion celebrates New Year's Eve. 82 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Ninety three pm. The recruising in the area of Alameda 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,839 and Macy Street. 84 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 6: Unit seventy two are at LCIER in Geneva at three 85 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:13,959 eleven at three. 86 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:17,519 Speaker 2: Eleven, KMA three six seven. Roger seventy two. 87 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 6: Are Units one twelve at eighty three and are Avenue. 88 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,920 See the man keeps the peace GMA three. 89 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: Six stopping him up. That's a big nine, No Joe, 90 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:28,800 No no thanks, attention. 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 6: All units, All units in the vicinity at East Maine 92 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:33,680 and Darwin and office in Retail. 93 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,079 Speaker 2: That looks like we got one. 94 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, All units in the vicinity at East Maine and 95 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:40,600 Darwin and opposite needtail M three six seven. 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: Yes, we better handle her. The next rue on the 97 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:45,399 left bend we can go out, Darling. Yeah, I better 98 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,439 call him. Eighty K to control one, eight OK to 99 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,439 control one. That's matter. I guess they're busy. Eighty K 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,800 to control one, eight OK to control one. 101 00:05:55,879 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 6: Stand by eighty K. Attention all units, all units in 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,839 the vicinity. The call to East Maine and dar one 103 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:04,000 is now a shooting. 104 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: You better push it than him. Got it down to 105 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:10,680 the floor in the vicinity. The call to East. 106 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: Maine and dar one is now shooting. The call is 107 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:14,399 now code three K. 108 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: That ship coming up. Yeah, crowd there on the corner, 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,839 I guess you better pull up here. Huh, all right? 110 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,879 Come on. 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,959 Speaker 5: Over by light pole, Ben Joe man lying on the sidewalk, 112 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,319 want to check the crowd line? 113 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is through here, we get through. 114 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 7: Excuse me, look, please get back, move back. 115 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:40,439 Speaker 2: Please come on. 116 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 5: I wonder if you just move along, move along, move along, 117 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,720 give us a little room to work than Ben. 118 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I have a look here. M hm. 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:58,079 Speaker 5: Oh, Jack Conley right, he's dead. His full name is 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,319 John Patrick Connley. 121 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: Serial numbers three sixty seven was one of the veteran 122 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,759 officers in Central Homicide. He lay face down on the pavement, 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,160 one of his legs straddling the curbstone. He had been 124 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:10,519 shot twice at the base of his skull. There were 125 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,439 four more bullet wounds in his back. Ben got to 126 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,439 a phone called Homicide and told them what had happened. 127 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:18,319 Speaker 2: Two dozen Cruiser cars. 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,879 Speaker 4: And more than a half a hundred men were immediately 129 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:22,480 dispatched to the scene of the killing. They circled the 130 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,279 area for a dozen blocks around and started the door 131 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:28,519 to door search for the killer. Suspicious looking pedestrians were 132 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:32,279 stopped at every street corner and questioned. Ten thirty PM, 133 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,079 the ambulance arrived and Jack Conley's body was taken to 134 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,920 the morgue along with Thaxter and Bryan from Homicide. Bonnie Luchek, 135 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Ben and I continued checking in the immediate vicinity of 136 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:44,079 the killing. We found no one who'd admit that they 137 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,680 actually saw the shooting. Half a dozen people in the 138 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,079 crowd told us that they heard the shots and they 139 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:51,720 saw Conley fall of the pavement. I had also seen 140 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:54,639 a man standing behind Conley turn and run down the 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,920 street right after the shooting. 142 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:57,519 Speaker 2: No one had followed him. 143 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:00,639 Speaker 5: The man was described as medium build, wearing a dark 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,600 suit and a dark hat. 145 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: That's all I could tell us. Eleven twenty five pm. 146 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,040 Then and I met Bonnie Luke check back at the. 147 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: Car MARTI did you get anything checked out? Every store 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,360 in the neighborhood that's opened? 149 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:13,519 Speaker 2: Not much? How about you? 150 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: It's the same pretty thin Brian and Faster turned up 151 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,160 a newsboy down the street. He told him he saw 152 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:19,920 the guy in the dark suit running down the street. 153 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,879 You know, thought he saw the guy come out. 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: Of this bar here. 155 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,959 Speaker 5: We heard that too, Bunnie. We talked to the bartender. 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,399 He doesn't call him man. Le'll say, I almost forgot. 157 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:29,720 I checked for the office. Missus Conley has been calling 158 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,560 and wants to know where her husband is. You know, 159 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:35,080 I asked personnel to hold off notifying her something bu 160 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,919 fellas who want to tell her? He knew Conley pretty well, 161 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,159 did you? 162 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? A long time family, mayn three kids, you fellas. 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: They want to tell her. I'll co person know back. 164 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:47,600 They can do it, you know, it's all right and 165 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:55,480 tell her. Eleven forty pm. Then and I got in 166 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,840 the car and hit it out for the home of 167 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:59,960 the Slean officer Jack Connelly. The house was on Rawson 168 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,480 they Avenue, just a few blocks from where Bentley. He 169 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:04,879 parked the car and started up the front walk. The 170 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:13,279 lights were burning in the living rooms in jum what 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,440 I said, it's a lousy job. 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, better try it again. Huh you heard it. Somebody's coming. Hi, 173 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,679 Joe there, we're you. Glad you can make it. 174 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,759 Speaker 6: Everybody's here, Come in, come in. I'm still waiting for 175 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:38,159 that wandering husband of mine. 176 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,919 Speaker 2: He's not here by midnight. He's going to be in 177 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:41,399 the dog house for sure. Or here, let me take 178 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,399 your coat. No, buddy, that's all right. I wonder if 179 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:44,879 we could go back in the kitchen. We'd like to 180 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:47,639 talk to me. Can't you stay long? No, not too long? 181 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:49,840 Oh that's too bad. And welcome on back in the kitchen. 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,399 I'll get you something. Maybe you can drop back later on. 183 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,360 Jack should be here by then. You'd better be come 184 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:58,200 on in by the one of you've seen Jack. That's 185 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,120 what we wanted to talk to you about. Betty, what 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,519 you want to sit down there? What is it? Joe? 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Tell me? Oh, he had an accident. Where is he? 188 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 I want to go see him? How about an accident? 189 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,559 Pretty bad? I want to go see him, Joe. If 190 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,799 he's heard, I want to see him. Couldn't be that bad, 191 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,919 could it? Yeah? Oh please, Joe, please not dead? 192 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 8: Tell me Joe please, I'm. 193 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,039 Speaker 2: Sorry, Betty. 194 00:10:27,039 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 8: Dear god, oh God. 195 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: I want to give me a hand here, Joe. Yeah. Wow, 196 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:34,159 she's wet. Is a sheep? Mean? Worse when she comes 197 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,919 to We better get hold of the family doctor. 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,879 Speaker 4: Now we're going to have to wait. We'll never get 199 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,320 through now. Huh on lines are probably jam it's midnight. 200 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:52,519 Oh yeah, happy nire. Twelve thirty am we finally got 201 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,639 ahold of the Conley's family doctor, and he told. 202 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: Us that he'd be over as quickly as possible. 203 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:58,919 Speaker 4: Some of Bett Conley's relatives at the party said that 204 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,000 they'd look after things till the doctor arrived. Ben and 205 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,720 I left the house and drove back to the scene 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,879 of the murder. The house to house check of the 207 00:11:06,039 --> 00:11:08,320 entire area was still going on. There was no trace 208 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,720 at the killer. One thirty am, a low fog moved 209 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:14,159 in over the city. Traffic began to pin out a little. 210 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:17,480 The street crowds disappeared. Two am. 211 00:11:17,639 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 5: The search went on a little before two thirty, a 212 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,480 patrolman on foot located a taxi cab driver in the 213 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:26,279 neighborhood who claimed that he'd seen a man answering the killer's. 214 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: Description just after the shooting. Ben and I went down 215 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,399 the street to talk to the driver. He sat behind 216 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:33,559 the wheel of his cab. It was especially equipped with 217 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,240 shortwave radio to handle calls directly from the taxi company's 218 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,159 dispatch office. 219 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: I got to pass it on for whatever it's worth, Officer. 220 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,399 It happened just a minute or two before I picked 221 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,240 up my last bear. 222 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: What time was that? Do you remember? I remembering too? 223 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: And I got it right here in a way Bill, Yeah, yeah, 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,879 here we go, nine forty eight pm. I was parked 225 00:11:57,919 --> 00:12:00,360 just where I am now the same old Stan picked 226 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,559 up a fair rode in the north made of Sotelo, 227 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:06,360 and I came back here. My cam broke down, lousy distributor. 228 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,600 I've been waiting for the repair truck ever since. 229 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:10,879 Speaker 2: Well, just what was it that happened before you picked 230 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:11,639 up that fair here? 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: Was it? 232 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: Nine? Is that right? Yeah? Nine forty eight? 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I was going to say it was just 234 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,639 a minute or two before that. I was parked right here. 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,759 This guy comes running down the street through the crowd. 236 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:25,240 He was really running too. Yeah, go ahead, he's almost 237 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:27,440 past me when he stopped all of a sudden, turned 238 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,320 around and looked at me. 239 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: I thought he wanted a cab, so I opened the 240 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:30,879 door for him. 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,879 Speaker 5: He just looked at me and said never mind, or 242 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:36,080 something like that, and then he took off down the street. 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Maybe he was just a little goofed up. I don't know. 244 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:40,000 Can you remember what he looked like? 245 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,759 Speaker 5: All about your bill? I guess medium. He had a 246 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,399 hat on, dark hat, dark suit. 247 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: Did you get a look at his face? 248 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's about twenty eight or thirty, dark complexion. 249 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Anything else remember about it? No, not for sure. He 250 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,360 looked like a hundred other moods. 251 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: He's down around this neighborhood, just listening to those calls 252 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,360 come in New Year's even. 253 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: I draw a lame cab. Well, nothing else that you 254 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:05,679 remember about this man that you think might help us him? 255 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 5: No, you got it all, sergeant, Just act a little queer, 256 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,879 that's all goofed up. Probably did you see which way 257 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:12,960 he went when he took off right down the street 258 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,039 that way, lost himself in the crowd. I couldn't be 259 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:19,279 bothered how about when he came running down the street, Torch, 260 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,240 and you happen to notice where he was coming from. 261 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:23,879 Matter of fact, yeah, that was just after I heard 262 00:13:23,879 --> 00:13:26,080 those gunshots. Of course I didn't know those gunshots. 263 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: Sam. 264 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, looked to me like it came out of that 265 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:29,919 joint up there right near where. 266 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: The cop was shot. 267 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,399 Speaker 5: Which joint was at two twenty eight that bar up there. 268 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,519 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't much, but it was the only lead 269 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,120 we had to go on. 270 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: Seven persons in the vicinity at the time of the 271 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,120 shooting had volunteered the information that the killer had been 272 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:46,320 a recent customer at the two twenty eighth club, the 273 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,120 neighborhood tavern. The owner and bartender of the club, or 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,559 Ralph Stevens, had been questioned twice that night by different officers, 275 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,039 and he twice denied that there was any possibility that 276 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:57,600 the killer could have been a patron. 277 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:57,799 Speaker 2: Of his bar. 278 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,399 Speaker 4: Stevens denying all didn't make any more sense than the 279 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,919 killing itself. We made arrangements to have the cab driver 280 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:07,440 we interviewed come down to the city Hall to check 281 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,879 through our Muther books for the suspect. By ten am 282 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,480 the next morning, the body of the slain homicide officer 283 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:14,679 Jack Connelly. 284 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: Had been posted. 285 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,159 Speaker 4: Four bullets were taken from his back, two from the 286 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,600 base of his skull. Russ Camp ran the slugs through ballistics, 287 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:23,919 where they were identified as having been fired from. 288 00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: A thirty eight caliber Colt Special Revolver. 289 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: Eleven am we drove back to the two twenty eight club, 290 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 where we talked to some of the customers who'd been 291 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,679 there the night before. Three of them told us that 292 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:36,960 they'd seen a man answering the general description of the 293 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,440 killer in the bar shortly before the shooting. 294 00:14:40,039 --> 00:14:41,639 Speaker 2: Then and I went back to the stock. 295 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,879 Speaker 4: Room at the rear of the bar and talked to 296 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,840 the owner, Ralph Stevens. 297 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,399 Speaker 2: Look, how long does this thing had to go on? Anyway? 298 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,960 I told you everything I knew last night. 299 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,559 Speaker 5: We know that Stevens doesn't seem to jive with what 300 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,480 the rest of the witnesses saw, though, and maybe you 301 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,039 better take it up with him. I don't know anything 302 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:00,519 about it. I got work to and you're in my 303 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:01,000 way there. 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: Here's me. I come, you're so sure that the man 305 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:06,559 we want wasn't in your place last night? I'm not 306 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:07,480 on trial here. 307 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:09,639 Speaker 5: You ask me what I know, and I told you 308 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:10,080 you don't mind. 309 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,799 Speaker 2: I got work to do. You mind moving over there? 310 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,279 Speaker 5: We'd appreciate it if you cooperate, if you want to 311 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,200 know the truth. You're not good for my business here. 312 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,559 Cops never are coming around asking questions. Customers don't like it. 313 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:22,159 It's no good for business, no good at all. 314 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: A cop was killed last night right outside your front door, 315 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,960 and a half a dozen people say that the guy 316 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,200 who did it was in here drinking. 317 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: I run this place. It's mine, I say, the man 318 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:33,080 wasn't in here. Still like to know how you're so sure. 319 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:34,679 I'm getting a little tired of this. 320 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: I don't have an office down at the city. All 321 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,960 the lines around, and I got work to do. 322 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:38,759 Speaker 2: How about leaving you? 323 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:40,399 Speaker 5: You want to get your coat? We can talk to 324 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:42,919 you downtown. Come on now before I call my lawyer. 325 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,360 Oh ahead and call him. Where's your coat? Why do 326 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,279 we have to have trouble? I haven't got any beasts 327 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,440 with you. No trouble, Stevens. We have to get to 328 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,440 the bottom of it, that's all I dad. 329 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: You cooperate. He know the guy was in here last night. 330 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,639 He came in a couple of times. That's all. I 331 00:15:55,639 --> 00:15:57,720 didn't want it to get out. Bad for business. Those 332 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,960 things can't afford it keeps customers away. 333 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:01,759 Speaker 4: And the man was in here last night, I said, right. 334 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:03,120 I wasn't trying to cover it for. 335 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm hardly know him. 336 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: I just didn't want it to get out. I got 337 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:07,600 a right to protect my business. Who is the man, 338 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:10,120 Harry Talmans? He's a hophead. If he did it, it 339 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,360 probably wasn't his fault. How do you mean he was 340 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,200 hyped up last night? If he was as heroin, he 341 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,519 probably didn't mean his shoe. Where do we find him? 342 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:19,080 I wouldn't know if this is right, Old Adred. What 343 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:20,679 the Fairview Hotel? 344 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Try there? 345 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: Eleven thirty five am New Year's Day, we got in 346 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:31,519 touch with Barney Luchack and Tom Bryan from Homicide and 347 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:34,039 they drove downtown to check at the Fairview Hotel for 348 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,320 the suspect. Ben and I finished questioning the owner of 349 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,039 the two twenty eighth club and we went back to 350 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,720 the office. 351 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: Eleven fifty eight am. 352 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: Barney Luchack and Brian got back, Barnie, what have you got? 353 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,279 Speaker 2: Fairview Hotel in South Grant was that the one? Yeah? 354 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Did you find it? Okay? 355 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? Talked to desk clerk tell me Dredgeter that yeah, 356 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,759 he was checked out two months ago. 357 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:08,559 Speaker 9: No Leeds, you are listening to drag mitt a series 358 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:19,000 of authentic case histories documented from official files. 359 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,599 Speaker 4: One PM New Year's Day, after we found that the 360 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,119 suspect Harry tell Me to checked out at the Fairview 361 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,720 Hotel months before, Ben and I went back to the 362 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:30,079 office and ran his name through R and I. The 363 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,640 information given us by Ralph Stevens, the owner of the 364 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,839 two to twenty eighth club, was apparently correct. The record 365 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,119 on tell Mead showed that he was a confirmed user 366 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,559 of narcotics. He served two brief terms for illegal possession 367 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:45,119 of narcotics and another short term in the county. 368 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,079 Speaker 2: Jail for petty theff. We got out a broadcast and 369 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,279 an APV on tell Me. 370 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,799 Speaker 4: We checked out all his known friends and relatives, the 371 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:55,160 places that he frequented, hotels, boarding houses that he'd stayed 372 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,720 at No Leeds, with the help of Lieutenant Wallers in 373 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:02,000 Narcotics Detail, finally found the trail most. 374 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: Likely to lead us to the suspect. 375 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,319 Speaker 5: The peddlers who were suspected of supplying Talmans with narcotics. 376 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: They were kept under a twenty. 377 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:13,799 Speaker 4: Four hour watch, three days passed, no results. January fourth, 378 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,319 nine am. Then and I went to the funeral. 379 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: And burial services for the murdered officer Jack Conley. Eleven am. 380 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:25,519 We got back to the office. I don't know why, Joe, 381 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,759 I just don't cot in the funerals. Not a cops sooner. Anyway, 382 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:31,640 I don't blame you. His wife looked a lot better 383 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,400 than she Yeah, she knew burning up good considering well 384 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:39,240 s im Bonnie say, Lennie, Yeah, yeah, tell me you 385 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,519 told me about he phoned you, bet Oh is that right? 386 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: You're give him the information? 387 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he wanted to know all about taking the police 388 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,799 department examination. Who's that one of my neighbors boys, A 389 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,839 nice kid wants to get on the force. I told 390 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,720 him to fly at Room five City Hall on any 391 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:53,480 weekday to make it an application. 392 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:54,279 Speaker 2: Then had it? 393 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 5: Fine, Bonnie thing, Well, they got the recruiting campaign going there. Yeah, oh, 394 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,359 this month taking applications from all over. Then I'll get 395 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,279 it onmic side Friday. 396 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Wallers this minute, Okay, heyld s O. N. 397 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:17,599 Speaker 2: Donaldson, Okay, fine, thanks a lot, blue Wallers and narcotics 398 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,720 might be something. What's that? 399 00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:21,039 Speaker 4: He got a line on one of the mules who 400 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,960 used to push heroin the town. He's got the name 401 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,279 of Donaldson. He's been sounded out. He's ready to talk 402 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:28,720 to us. This Donaldson was close to down may Well supposedly. 403 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:34,839 Speaker 5: Yeah you know where down man, Jay, Let's ask him. 404 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: Ben and I left the office and drove to the 405 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,759 address on South Alameda where Donaldson, a friend of the 406 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,240 murder suspect, was supposed to be staying. Turned out to 407 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,039 be a cheap hotel in the skid row district. It 408 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,160 was next to one of the rescue missions down there. 409 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,720 We finally located Donaldson across the street. He was standing 410 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,839 on the sidewalk along with four or five other men. 411 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,039 They were listening to a small Salvation Army band playing 412 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:01,400 outside one of the beer joints. 413 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 5: I hardly miss any of these sidewalk meeting Sergeant like them, 414 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,319 band music, even listen to sermons. 415 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Do me a lot of good. Understand you're not pushing 416 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:15,119 junk anymore, duneton. 417 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 8: Is, Do you want to call me big? 418 00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:17,279 Speaker 2: Sergeant? 419 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 8: Names really John, but everybody calls me big. 420 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: No. 421 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 8: I haven't been pushing junk, not for months. 422 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: All through with it? Well, when's the last time that 423 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,039 you saw Harry tell me a couple of weeks ago. 424 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,200 I'm not much for Harry anymore. Like I say, I've 425 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,319 been regular at these sidewalk meetings. Hearing the sermons changes 426 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,680 the way a fella does things. 427 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: You know. 428 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, a man's got to turn good sometime during his life. 429 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,720 Not getting any younger fifty eight, I figure it's time 430 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,279 I start living by the word. 431 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: Say that's nice music, yea. Do you have any idea 432 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,680 what we might find? 433 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,519 Speaker 5: Tell me now, I might have a few ideas on it. 434 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:03,680 I don't know, say, I guess these are one of 435 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,240 you fellas you smell. 436 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't bother it does it? I don't 437 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,519 go ahead. 438 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 5: I don't sure I know the last boarding house Harry 439 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,519 stayed at it. That'll help any placed on a twelve street. 440 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,200 I can give you the address. Well, is he's still there? 441 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:24,440 You know you don't think he is, No matter of fact, 442 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:27,960 I'm sure he's not. Wish Harry had come around and 443 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,039 see me, like to get him interested in these sidewalk meetings. 444 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,400 Getting listening to the sermons might help him. Did an 445 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,279 awful lot for me. 446 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: Answer when you say that you saw tell me about 447 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,720 two weeks ago. 448 00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 5: Well, not quite two weeks ago. It was a day 449 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,440 after Christmas. Came down to my hotel and wanted some money. 450 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:48,119 I couldn't give him any. That's when he told me 451 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,279 he was moving, going to some rooming house up around 452 00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,039 the city Hall section up there? 453 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,559 Speaker 2: Did he mention any Andre, not that I recollect. No? 454 00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:00,559 Speaker 8: That sure is nice news, isn't that? 455 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: Well? How about some of his other friends beings? You 456 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,799 think he might be able to help. 457 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,039 Speaker 5: Us, Well, Duke might help you. Harry and old Duke 458 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,200 are still great friends. Duke sees more than I do. 459 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: Where do we find you? 460 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: Why don't you know the Penny Arcade down in South Maine, 461 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,440 right down from the train depot there. 462 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's where Duke works. He's a gender there. 463 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: I've been trying to get Duke to come to the 464 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:27,559 sidewalk meetings too. He sure could stand it, Old. 465 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: Duke, Well, thanks very much, Banks, and it all of. 466 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,799 Speaker 5: A sudden, you know it's glad to help out. And 467 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,519 look at that now, all out of snuff. Say you 468 00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:43,000 couldn't see your way clear, could you? I you go, 469 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,720 mag that's sure, Christian of your sageant, I'll handle this 470 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000 just like a personal loan. It's all right, I think. 471 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,680 Don't say anything about us talking to you know, not anyone. No, sure, 472 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:56,359 I won't. You can trust me. Say when you see Harry, 473 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440 give him a message. What's that you tell him to 474 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,599 come and see. I want them to show up at 475 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,799 these meetings here the sermons. It could change everything. Sad 476 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:12,000 could give him a new life, new soul, brand new 477 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:12,960 soul for Harry. 478 00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: Think of that. 479 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, we could use one. Three pm, Tuesday, January fourth, 480 00:23:21,319 --> 00:23:24,000 we drove down to the Penny Arcade on South Maine. 481 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,279 Harry tell me his friend Duke wasn't there. The manager 482 00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:30,400 of the place gave us his home address and we 483 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,400 checked it out. Duke wasn't there either. We staked out 484 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,119 at the place for the rest of the afternoon. 485 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: Duke failed to show. 486 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:41,559 Speaker 4: At six o'clock that night, Barney Luchek and Brian from 487 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Homicide came out and we relieved this. Ben and I 488 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,759 had dinner at Johnny Cochin and then we went back. 489 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: To the office. Seven. I want to grab that Joe, Yeah, 490 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,799 I got it. 491 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,319 Speaker 4: Homicide Friday. Oh yeah, barniey shoot up here. We're talking 492 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:06,640 about will you tell you anything? Wait a minute, The second, 493 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,599 All right, go ahead, westover apartment three. There was one 494 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:16,960 seven two seven West Hoover's that right, apartment three. 495 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: What's the pitch? All right, Brian? Thanks by lue Check. Yeah, 496 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:28,839 what's he got? Harry? Tell me supposed to be at 497 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:30,240 this address. 498 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: Ben and I got in the car and drove out 499 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:36,880 to the West Hoover Street address where we met lu 500 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,640 Check and Brian. Seventeen twenty seven was a small two 501 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,680 story apartment house Spanish stuckoe in the style. 502 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:46,839 Speaker 2: Apartment three was at the rear of the first floor. 503 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: All right, lu Check, you want to pick up Brian 504 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,519 and you cover the bag? All right, Joe, come onday, 505 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:20,599 let's go. Huh yeah, it's up the stairs, number three. Okay, okay, 506 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:38,720 no sound inside doors open? Lets say no, it's empty. 507 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,400 H I want to try the bedroom. I'll check the kitchen. 508 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: Show in here all right. Tell me what got a gun, 509 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,119 Joe Rabbit? 510 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 5: Alright you lock. 511 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:06,839 Speaker 7: Drop my god, my arm, I got it, jail, all right, 512 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,200 come on on your feet, all right, gemmen backing you 513 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,880 all right, I went whole. 514 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 5: Steale thirty eight revolved Joe cold special, all right, how 515 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,480 about it? 516 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: Tell me it's mine? What of it? Where's your coat? 517 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880 I don't know. Why'd you kill him? I don't want 518 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,000 or to that's all. He was a cop? Is that 519 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,039 your only reason? I told you he was a cop? 520 00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,039 What's the difference? A big difference, mister, Why I killed him? 521 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,079 It's just one cop? Less? What's the difference? Ask his family, 522 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:44,680 they'll tell you. The story you have just heard was true, 523 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,799 only the names were changed or protect the innocent. 524 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: On March twenty sixth, the trial was held in Superior Court, 525 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,680 Department eighty sixth, City and County of Los Angeles, State 526 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,279 of California. In a moment the results of that trial, 527 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,839 Harold Wesley Talmadge was found guilty of manslaughter by a 528 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,640 jury trial and was sentenced to the state penitentiary. He 529 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:21,680 was paroled after serving six years in prison. You have 530 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,559 just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official finds. 531 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,640 Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, 532 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:38,319 Los Angeles Police. Stay tuned for Counterspy More Good Mystery 533 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,119 on NBC. 534 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Welcome Back, A good Luck at New Years. From the 535 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,640 perspective of police officers for whom it's a very dangerous 536 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:58,599 and challenging holidays. It's one of those episodes which isn't 537 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,720 going to have a PS say effect. No one's going 538 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:04,440 to listen to that whose tendency is to get drunk 539 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,240 or high and ruin their lives and say, maybe I 540 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,480 won't do that. But it more helps us emphasize with 541 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,599 the police officers and their struggles which can often turn deadly. 542 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,039 I will say that the close second for the most 543 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,480 loathsome character in this story is the bartender. He's literally 544 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,640 willing to withhold information the police need to find a 545 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,839 killer to protect his reputation. The ironic thing is that, 546 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480 from all accounts, if you're the type of person who 547 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:34,839 goes to his bar, you probably aren't going to be 548 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,039 too rattled by it. At least according to him, the 549 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:43,079 killer was a fairly obvious narcotics user, so nobody who 550 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640 went there would have been surprised that things turned out 551 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,759 as they did. Well, now we turn to listener comments 552 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:54,640 and feedback, and we go to YouTube where Prince Adam 553 00:28:54,799 --> 00:29:00,799 comments regarding the big couple, that's how it ends. Well, yeah, 554 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,480 I'm not certain to understand the objection to the ending 555 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,119 of that one. Both the husband and wife were caught 556 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,759 and after trial they were sentenced to prison. That's a 557 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:16,920 pretty standard dragnet ending, So yeah, I'm not certain to 558 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,279 understand the problem with that one. 559 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: There are a. 560 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:27,079 Speaker 1: Few dragnet endings which are anticlimactic or puzzling, but ninety 561 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,519 nine plus percent of the time it's pretty well established 562 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,480 how those things end. Then we have a comment on YouTube. 563 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,319 A listener writes, sadly, nothing much has changed in seventy 564 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:46,599 five or so years, and I guess, particularly in regards 565 00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:49,640 to the Big crime, my answer on whether things have 566 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,960 gotten better or worse is generally yes. And so I 567 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,240 would disagree and say that things have gotten better and worse. 568 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,519 And you we can think of a whole lot of 569 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,319 things when it comes to the crimes in that episode, 570 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,000 where we've gotten better with some of our awareness, and 571 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,920 the type of crime committed in that episode is quite 572 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,000 rare relatively, But at the same time, there are so 573 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,200 many other forms and methods being taken by predatory people 574 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,839 today that arguably it's gotten much worse. So while I 575 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960 might disagree on the exact formulation in the now, the 576 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:33,400 comment or may be right. All right, Well, now it's 577 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,319 time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and 578 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,079 I want to go ahead and thank Stephanie currently supporting 579 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,480 the podcast at the Shawmut level of four dollars or 580 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,960 more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Stephanie. Well, 581 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,079 that will do it for this week and next week 582 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,079 we will not have new episodes because of a recording break. However, 583 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,640 we will be bringing you some great programs from our archives. 584 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:06,359 Our regular programming resumes on Memorial Day with the Adventures 585 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,799 of the Falcon. Be sure and watch video theater coming 586 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,759 up of the weekend of Memorial Day and then coming 587 00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:20,599 May the twenty eighth, it is our summer series which 588 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480 I'm really excited about. On the Amazing World of Radio, 589 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,200 we will be bringing you the Summer of Robert Lewis Stevenson, 590 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,680 featuring classic stories like The Strange Case of Doctor Jekyl 591 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:39,559 and Mister Hyde, Treasure Island, and so much more. And 592 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,400 you can join us for the Summer of Robert Lewis 593 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Stevenson starting on May the twenty eighth at Amazing Great 594 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,279 Detectives dot net or on our YouTube channel. In the meantime, 595 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,960 send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, 596 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,079 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 597 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:07,519 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com slash great detectives from Boise, Idaho. 598 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:10,400 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.