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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to my world.

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<v Speaker 2>Bitch. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Good here that's right, listeners, we are here. I am

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Knight and I am Oscar Spector And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and fifty eighth episode of The Supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>the Current Studies podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So statistically paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a list of adjectives you said you had

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<v Speaker 1>come in with the intro.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't think it will get you with that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good. That was good. Uh well, Oscar. First thing,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about our new intro song. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am in love with this song.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like headbang into it. It's metals metal, which

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<v Speaker 3>is like my favorite genre of music in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's definitely unique. I think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of bring something new and fresh to the podcast. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was made by a close friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of the show, DJ Eric Rich. He put

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<v Speaker 1>that together for us. There's a lot of complexity to

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<v Speaker 1>that intro as well. There's so many layers.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard that DJ joke?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>What did the DJ name his son?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Eric?

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<v Speaker 1>What was his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Eric?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah, that's his name. That was great.

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<v Speaker 1>That was That is his name?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that joke when you said.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Eric, if you're listening, I hope you're laughing. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>he he put that together. Now typically like this, that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of horror, evil kind of sound. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>his sound. His sound, it's he describes it as a

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<v Speaker 1>collective of funky disco house music. It's music that you

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<v Speaker 1>you don't hear it, you feel it. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's not his typical genre. But I asked him, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of want to freshen up the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Do something really cool with the intro, something evil, something funky,

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<v Speaker 1>something that gets you going and pumped ready to jump

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<v Speaker 1>into the show. And he's like, I got you. And

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<v Speaker 1>we went back and forth for about a week, week

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<v Speaker 1>and a half or so, and so we got it

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<v Speaker 1>just right. And man, I'm in love with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah to the point too. It's nice and fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that heartbeat, the heart beat throughout that intro

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. So when he sent me, he sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a file before he added any music to it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of all these different layered sound

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<v Speaker 1>effects I see, And the one thing he brought into

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<v Speaker 1>it was this heartbeat and I'm telling you, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I heard it, I almost felt paranoid, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was on edge listening to this track and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you nail. I mean, that's exactly, that's the exact feel

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<v Speaker 1>I want. And then he looped in that music and

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<v Speaker 1>it just yeah, So I'm really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Much like your local news coverage, folks, we also want

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<v Speaker 3>to scare you right off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bat exactly keet you in the mood, especially for tonight's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thank you Dj Eric Rich listeners. In the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes, I'm gonna have all of his socials, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have his YouTube, I'll have his SoundCloud, his TikTok. But

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<v Speaker 1>just to name them, it's YouTube dot com slash Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Rich six nine. SoundCloud is SoundCloud dot com slash dj

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Rich. And that's e R I c R. I

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<v Speaker 1>see that's good. Yeah yeah right, people do no, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want that ship and no one that's fucking

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<v Speaker 1>k get here and uh check them out on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>That's TikTok dot com slash dj Eric Rich listeners. Check

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<v Speaker 1>him out, give him a like, and to follow. His

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<v Speaker 1>music is fantastic a collective of funky disco, house music,

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<v Speaker 1>music that you feel you don't hear. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>new intro. We got a great topic for tonight. Osk

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<v Speaker 1>her anything new and exciting to going on with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I have a foolish story, a story that

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<v Speaker 3>only proves further if you weren't sure before, folks that

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<v Speaker 3>I am human. This story is happened a couple months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in for a job interview in Rosemond, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a town adjacent ish to my city of Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not too far from me, like twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>minute drive. And I went there for an interview to

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<v Speaker 3>the outlet malls, my first time there actually, and I

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<v Speaker 3>had the interview, but it went fine. Didn't get a callback,

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<v Speaker 3>so not that fine. That finday was cool. I made jokes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good rapport, I thought. Anyway, I leave

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<v Speaker 3>the complex to go to my car in the parking

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<v Speaker 3>lot on the first floor, or and I go to

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<v Speaker 3>the exact spot and my car is in there. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't forget. This is the best thing about this dude,

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<v Speaker 3>in this whole thing, is that I did not lose

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<v Speaker 3>my mind once. I didn't even swear. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>like I just went where is it? Literally said that

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<v Speaker 3>to myself in the parking lot at two pm, and

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<v Speaker 3>I looked around just to make sure, like did I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure I parked your ninety nine percent? Sure because

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<v Speaker 3>I am good about that usually. I walked everywhere else

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<v Speaker 3>around that area. Didn't find it. You know. I clicked

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<v Speaker 3>on my on my what you call it the keyfob?

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<v Speaker 3>No alarm cars, not environment shit. So I call security,

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<v Speaker 3>the mall security guy and they have a level of report.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I asked him, like is there cameras here? Can

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<v Speaker 3>you see me? We did a whole check like yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a camera kind of seeing me where I was,

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<v Speaker 3>where the parking spot was, And I asked him, can

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<v Speaker 3>you find I came in at this time? I was

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<v Speaker 3>going to leave now, so I wound that time my

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<v Speaker 3>car probably got stolen. And he's like, oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to find that out for you. He was like, procedures,

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<v Speaker 3>this procedures are you was telling me, I can't see

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<v Speaker 3>the footage, but if the cop comes, don't give it

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<v Speaker 3>to them, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't let you see the footage.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they don't let you see it. So I called

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<v Speaker 3>the cops after that, which actually I call their offices

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, you have to call on one like really,

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, So I did and a cop came out

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<v Speaker 3>with twenty minutes later. I explained them on the phone

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<v Speaker 3>what it was, and they came. The guy came and

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<v Speaker 3>his first question clude me as to what happened, which is,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you sure you parked on this level?

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<v Speaker 1>No, dude, no security cops the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong level, wrong level. Well, he had attle cop like

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<v Speaker 3>driving around like a you know, a regular trooper guy

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<v Speaker 3>driving around the other levels looking for it. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was an exact spot that I thought my car was

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<v Speaker 3>just one level up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, how embarrassing it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, I was so I wasn't like embarrassed like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like it was like, what a waste of

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<v Speaker 3>time for them. I felt so bad. I offered the

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<v Speaker 3>guy Starbucks, as you know, there's stores in there, like

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<v Speaker 3>you want something. I'm so sorry for making direct like

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<v Speaker 3>do that happen? So that's fine as long as you

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<v Speaker 3>found it. And we were talking about it, like why

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<v Speaker 3>would someone steal your car? I'm like, I know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a piece of ship. That's what I said, Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I thought I thought my car was fool proof

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<v Speaker 3>because it's such a piece of shit it's not worth stealing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's been and and they're like, I got no

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<v Speaker 3>hits because apparently in these days you get hits based

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<v Speaker 3>on your VN throughout the roads that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>about systems in place for this kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't had any hits, you know, in the last

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<v Speaker 3>two hours or whatever. And I was so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very humiliating. But I didn't forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I got bad and he was keeping cool, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I forgot. I also had called my brother to

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<v Speaker 3>see if you could pick me up, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>more than halfway before I found my car. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>real blonde moment. Yes, it's a blonde I did tell myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That, could you say that anymore? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Find Yeah, some people's not do that's hilarious. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Megit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad your car wasn't stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, like I told Roth, Like, dude, I am

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<v Speaker 3>so old. I am fucking up. That's why you can't

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<v Speaker 3>make fun of me anymore. Man, Oh, yes I can,

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<v Speaker 3>because I've never done that because you're much worse. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we can get out of house.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit I hate the house.

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<v Speaker 3>I know there's people out there. Yeah, do I want

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<v Speaker 3>to leave the house for So that's what happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny you brought that up because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a story like that as well. That happened last weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen to me personally, but it happened to

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<v Speaker 1>my lovely daughter. So she telling is sixteen. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>got her car. That's very nice car. So she's out

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<v Speaker 1>there driving, man and I have It's great because I

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<v Speaker 1>have zero worry for her. She's a fantastic driver. She's alert,

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<v Speaker 1>she's smart, she understands the rules of the road. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not an idiot. I worry about everybody else because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is in for sure, so I never really worry

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<v Speaker 1>about her driving. So the point is she's venturing out

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<v Speaker 1>far now, like just shy of a month ago. She

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<v Speaker 1>went to a place called the Wisconsin Dell's. It's way

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<v Speaker 1>up there in Wisconsin. It's kind of this real famous

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<v Speaker 1>cool it's a fun play tourist town. Uh, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the woods, the north I don't think you'd consider it

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<v Speaker 1>north Woods yet, but it's up there. It's up there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so she drove there and that was a couple hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last weekend she and you know, she does these things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, most young people are a faid to go

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<v Speaker 3>on the highway. It's great that she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Jumped right on. But we also had her driving on

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<v Speaker 1>the highway when she was gone in a permit preparation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we started her driving at like thirteen, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, getting behind the wheel. And yeah, so last weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't ask, just tells you, oh hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when she does that too, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. She like, me and my boyfriend were

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<v Speaker 1>going to uh, we're gonna go to Chinatown, right Yeah, yeah, Chinatown, Chicago. U.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm from just right over there, right around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you were, you lived too far from yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that it's not a nice area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's just not and especially for a young.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to go there to buy butterfly knives and nunchucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too, dude, butterfly and then let me buy it. Yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>like they don't give a ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. No, China Town is great, but for a young

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old girl. I wasn't too, but we let

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<v Speaker 1>her go. Katie's like, it's gonna be fine, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully she was safe. Everything worked out fine. However, before

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<v Speaker 1>I know, all right, motherfucker you know. Yeah, they're two

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<v Speaker 1>Mom. She didn't call me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, no, no, she called Katie. She knows what

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<v Speaker 1>My car got towed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, not stolen though luckily not stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankful. Yeah, her car got Literally what I told her

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<v Speaker 1>So but much like you, yea, she kept calm.

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<v Speaker 1>She found out what happened. That it wasn't stolen, She

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<v Speaker 1>Taking it to the goddamn hood, like yea, not a

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<v Speaker 1>nice place where these you know, city impound lots are.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's when she finally told me later that night

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I learned a lesson. The first time I've

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<v Speaker 3>One of the very few times if ever you'll hear

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<v Speaker 3>that again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But uh, but I was proud of her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she kept it cool, she got it handled.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of her also, and you know, like the

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<v Speaker 3>same way I was part of myself when not freaking

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<v Speaker 3>out because you never know, Yeah, now you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you know, I just don't know sometimes about situations.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been in situations before, but I guess it's

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<v Speaker 3>been a while. And then just refresher was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>A little refresher.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm pretty calm at this thing. So I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that sucks the car got stolen, And then I was

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<v Speaker 3>so happy when it wasn't because my sorry, I got

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<v Speaker 3>excited there when I realized that that my car was

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<v Speaker 3>possitively stolen. My first thought was I left my vape

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that was your first thought, not that.

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<v Speaker 3>The car was stolen. I don't I could care more

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<v Speaker 3>about the vape. But I told that to Roth. I

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<v Speaker 3>that the vape is in there. He's like, are you

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<v Speaker 3>sure that's the worst part. I'm like, yes, it is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst part because I need that now, absolutely, And

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<v Speaker 3>and I was so happy when it was out there

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<v Speaker 3>because they got there my.

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<v Speaker 1>Vape, the sun shines, everything's fine. Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that was my little, fun, funny, little parent story.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess for the last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Two correlated stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Two correlated stories. And I mean think about normal sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old girls would have probably fell apart.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, a lot of people would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine my aunt. I'm not gonna mention names that

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<v Speaker 3>she listens. You totally freak out. Yeah, well, totally freak

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<v Speaker 3>the funk out right. I would, yeah, I would freak out,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but not my kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>She kept it fucking cool. She was cold, man, She

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<v Speaker 1>got it done, proud of her for that, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I can't wait for her to move out.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, tonight we have a part too in our

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<v Speaker 1>exorcism series Exorcism Exorcism. Nice Jeric.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm glad you're trying, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so funny. So yeah, listeners, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>releasing an All Saints Day. Correct, We're gonna need the

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<v Speaker 1>power of all the Saints to help these poor souls

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to talk about this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, osk Her.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we take a break, let's do it. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Well, the lights are turned down low,

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<v Speaker 1>the ceremonial candle is lit, and the drinks are about

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<v Speaker 1>to start flowing. Let's start this show. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we love to drink as we're podcasting, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>poorn any whiskey yet.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't porn.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of caught that when I said it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna guide over it. But I'm glad you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you called me on it. Yes, you haven't poured

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<v Speaker 1>any yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to keep you steadying. A slip, the

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<v Speaker 3>Fortian slip, Freudian slip, the porn porn right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I did? I got three bottles from my

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<v Speaker 1>collection I have almost I was telling you off the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>I have almost I think one hundred and twenty bottles

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<v Speaker 1>now of urban and whiskey. So I picked three bottles

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<v Speaker 1>and I have not opened yet, and I wanted you

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<v Speaker 1>to choose yes, right, And so what do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>The first one we have here is a writtenhouse Rye

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<v Speaker 1>bottled in bond, so it's a hundred proof. I picked

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<v Speaker 1>this right up from the heaven Hill Distillery. I have

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<v Speaker 1>the Elijah Craig toasted barrel ninety four proof. This as

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<v Speaker 1>well was picked up from the distillery from heaven Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we have a very old Saint Nick ancient cask,

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<v Speaker 1>and by ancient, it's eight years old.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two presidential terms, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years old. And this is only eighty six point

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<v Speaker 1>eight proof. So the only hunter proof we have is

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<v Speaker 1>that bottled in bond, that bib bottle oscar. Which one

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<v Speaker 1>would you like to open so we could get this

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<v Speaker 1>fucking show going?

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<v Speaker 3>So I want something new, and it should be said,

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<v Speaker 3>these are all new to me technically, but I've had

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<v Speaker 3>Elijah Krack stuff. I've had the other one.

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<v Speaker 1>Good written house ry.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well, you said you.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't a Rye fan.

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<v Speaker 3>No, right, sorry, that's what I meant. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 3>big Rye guy. So that already made a third place

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<v Speaker 3>for me. So let's go with the Saint Nick that

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<v Speaker 3>claims to be as old as the years.

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<v Speaker 1>A very old and it's ancient cask.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. They throw a lot of old old words.

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<v Speaker 1>On there, a lot nineteen Yeah, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bottle makes it look like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bottle is very cool. The label is very cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so we're gonna go. It has a nice

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a wax cap here with a pull on

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<v Speaker 1>the air. I'm not gonna be able to get this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny. You ask me to open the pickle jar.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh oh, there we go. Oh goo, that was satisfying.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks satisfying.

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<v Speaker 1>Wax all over my iPad. There we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Put this here, and let's get that first bottle top pop.

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<v Speaker 3>Bottle top pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Broke.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, describe what happened, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>The cap came off the cork. I can't get this

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<v Speaker 1>fucking cork cop Oh it's bitch, dude, positive recording. Wait, wait, okay, wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't gonna positive anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Gott fucking pop a vessel, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm satisfying sound though, Yeah, oh yeah, you got it open, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>That was really funny. He's laughing and he's having a

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<v Speaker 3>fun time here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll sweating like I broke a sweat on that one. Pepper.

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<v Speaker 1>Are like, just start the we want to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>the possessed people, all right. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we don't get any whiskey or any wax in

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<v Speaker 1>the whiskey. You go first, thank you, there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh even smells old.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, cheers, cheers. Think let me see with this.

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<v Speaker 1>See now, I don't have so one of my one

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<v Speaker 1>of my good friends, uh oh, Randy Tucker, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before. He had somewhere out there radio

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. He doesn't do that anymore, but he started

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<v Speaker 1>his own YouTube channel. It's called Bourbonbroke dot Com. Matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I'm wearing a Bourbon Broke sweatshirt right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So he does whiskey reviews now and Bourbon reviews. It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>He does a fucking great job, good production. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest bars I've seen and in YouTube YouTube bourbon

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<v Speaker 1>review things that he's got the best bar I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen out there. So anyway, go check him out

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<v Speaker 1>bourbon broke dot com or bourbon broke on YouTube. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a really refined palate. He could pick out all

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<v Speaker 1>these amazing different flavors that come in whiskeys and bourbons. Me,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't have it for me. It's either it

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<v Speaker 1>burns or it burns less.

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<v Speaker 3>Burns good or burns bad for me. I'm very similar

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<v Speaker 3>to you. I'm like Thomas hidden church in side in sideways.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it tastes pretty good for me to literally

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<v Speaker 3>every rhyne.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is good, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it, like it, Yeah, yeah, I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we could also let it sit there out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, we could, but I like it. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's very drinkable. It's like, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>your friend. I don't know how to describe this. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how to discribe something at the end there, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a little longer finished.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost like it wants to be a licorice, but isn't

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<v Speaker 3>bad like liquorice.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten licorice before on whiskeys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm saying that's how I'm feeling a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit atan.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bottle of willet upstairs that I get

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<v Speaker 1>kind of licorice flavor. It's very good. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>drinkable again, It's only it's not even what eighty it's

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<v Speaker 1>only eighty six proof eighty six point eight. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is this goes down really easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which can't be a danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there there we go. All right, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>now the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show now, listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a part two. I've mentioned that, so if

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't done so already, please go back and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to our first exorcism episode, episode one fifty seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about tonight. But kind of just to quickly recap

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<v Speaker 1>episode one fifty seven, we talked about kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>nuts and bolts of exorcism, like the history of exorcism

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<v Speaker 1>in an ancient document called the Roman ritual. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember, there were two Roman rituals, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>said that the right of exorcism is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman ritual. It's found in both forms. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the right of exorcism itself, what it entails,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rules and exorcists should follow must follow

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<v Speaker 1>when conducting an exorcism. We outline the signs an exorcists

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<v Speaker 1>looks for when attempting to validate a case of demonic possession.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about the different stages of possession, that's infestation, oppression, obsession,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally possession. And we even read a few verses

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<v Speaker 1>of exorcistic prayers straight from the Right of exorcism from

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<v Speaker 1>both the Ordinary and Extraordinary Roman rituals. And we tossed

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<v Speaker 1>in a few extra goodies as well, treats for the

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween season. Now I got applause, Oscar. I keep seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of looking over your shoulder. Huh, is something

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<v Speaker 1>going on over there? No, we had something go on

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<v Speaker 1>last No.

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<v Speaker 3>Not this time, show, okay, not this time something It

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<v Speaker 3>was just like your little figurines that was like to

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<v Speaker 3>look at Okay, you're Clyde Barker figurines. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Yeah, Okay, Like I said, we did have

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<v Speaker 1>something weird happened in the last episode. Listeners go back

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<v Speaker 1>and check that out. So in this episode, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about cases of actual, validated demonic possession that

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<v Speaker 1>could not be cured by the afflicted's local exorcist. These

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<v Speaker 1>cases of possession were apparently so severe that the demon

447
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<v Speaker 1>possessed individual had to be brought to the pope himself

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<v Speaker 1>to be cured, and in some cases even the Pope

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't exercise the demons. Now, pope level exorcisms do exist.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a real thing, but information is very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to come by a pope's performing exorcisms because, as you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear in this episode, the Church is incredibly tight lipped

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this topic. But I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to dig up a few tasty stories. So let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into what I did uncover about this fascinating topic, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with the current head of the Catholic Church,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bishop of Rome and the sovereign of the Vatican

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<v Speaker 1>City State, His Holiness Pope Francis. Now Pope Francis became

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<v Speaker 1>Pope in March twenty thirteen, and he's the Catholic Church's

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty sixth Pope. Now it's interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>that Pope Francis's teachings on Satan are regarded as the

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<v Speaker 1>most old school of any pope since at least Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Paul sixth, whose papacy in the nineteen sixties and seventies

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<v Speaker 1>fully embraced the notion of hellish forces plotting to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>mankind unto damnation. Really, in sermons, interviews and occasionally in tweets, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope uses Twitter or x.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, or at least he tells someone to do it

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<v Speaker 3>for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I doubt he's sitting around his popely toilet hopelly poopy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of like my cinnamony Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy it is talking to you. It's very poply

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<v Speaker 3>poop he's doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he does use Twitter, but even on Twitter or

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<v Speaker 1>in interviews and in sermons, he gives live. Pope Francis

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<v Speaker 1>has declared that Satan, whom he refers to as Bezelbub,

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<v Speaker 1>the Seducer and the Great Dragon, is a literal being

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<v Speaker 1>devoted to deceiving and debasing us humans. The Pope was

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<v Speaker 1>quoted as saying we should not think of the devil

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<v Speaker 1>as a myth a representation, a symbol, a figure of speech,

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<v Speaker 1>or even an idea, but rather as a personal being

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<v Speaker 1>who assails us quote unquote. In twenty seventeen, Pope Francis

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<v Speaker 1>told priests they must not hesitate to refer their parishioners

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<v Speaker 1>to exorcists if they are experiencing quote genuine spiritual disturbances.

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<v Speaker 1>A year later, in twenty eighteen, the BBC reported that

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty priests from fifty countries traveled to

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<v Speaker 1>Rome for exorcist training as part of something called the

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<v Speaker 1>International Association of Exorcists. And oh god do I want

488
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<v Speaker 1>to be part of this club so bad?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, wow, is this why a movie like

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<v Speaker 3>The Pope's Exorcists exists?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, specifically the movie you mentioned that's actually based off

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<v Speaker 1>of a real figure, Father Gabriel and morph who I

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<v Speaker 1>go into a little bit here. Oh you do he

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<v Speaker 1>was the Pope's he was well yeah, the popes he

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<v Speaker 1>was the Vatican's exorcist, just like Crow. Right, that was

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<v Speaker 1>based off of this man. So that movie in particular

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<v Speaker 1>was based off gave her a morth But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it certainly could be. I mean this is real,

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<v Speaker 1>this is real. So this International Association of Exorcists exists

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<v Speaker 1>and it includes around eight hundred exorcist members around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like this army of exorcists, man going out

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<v Speaker 1>and battling evil. It's so cool, like the CIA of exorcisms. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the elite. So again, Pope Francis profoundly serious about the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of the devil and demons and the need for

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<v Speaker 1>exorcists and exorcisms. Now, as for exorcisms performed by Pope Francis,

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<v Speaker 1>on May nineteenth, twenty thirteen, after concluding his Sunday Mass

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<v Speaker 1>in Saint Peter's Square in Vatican City, Pope Francis went

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<v Speaker 1>around and blessed several wheelchair bound faithful as he always

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<v Speaker 1>does handicap people. He does this as this beautiful gesture

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<v Speaker 1>that shows the suffering that no matter their condition, and

511
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<v Speaker 1>the entire Catholic Church is with them, supports them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing. Positive. Now it's believed that during this

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<v Speaker 1>particular papal blessing on May nineteenth, twenty thirteen, Pope Francis

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<v Speaker 1>conducted an exorcism right there in Saint Peter's Square in

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<v Speaker 1>front of everyone, and it was captured on video, and

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<v Speaker 1>it made world news. You see, on this particular day,

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<v Speaker 1>a forty three year old husband and father believed to

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<v Speaker 1>be named Angelo or Angel, sat among the wheelchair bound

519
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<v Speaker 1>faithful waiting to receive the papal blessing. You see, Angel

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<v Speaker 1>had traveled all the way from Mexico to Rome, accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>by Reverend Juan Rivas, because, according to Revas, Angel was

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<v Speaker 1>possessed by four incredibly vile, stubborn demons. Now, listeners, here's

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<v Speaker 1>where I really need you. To go to the show

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<v Speaker 1>notes and watch this video that I left there for

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<v Speaker 1>you so you can see what I'm about to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to see this. One of the videos is

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<v Speaker 1>from USA Today and the other is from CNN. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, when this thing happened, it made world news. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you I've watched this video countless times

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<v Speaker 1>and something about them chills me to the bone. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in the video, you see Pope Francis approach Angel, who's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting slumped in a wheelchair, and you can watch what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when the Pope lays his left hand on Angel's

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<v Speaker 1>head and briefly holds Angel's hand with his right. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like the Pope says some words over Angel.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hear what he says, but for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis releases Angel's hand and proceeds to lay both

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<v Speaker 1>his hands on Angel's head. And if you pause, if

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<v Speaker 1>you pause the video, when the Pope lays both his

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<v Speaker 1>hands on Angel's head, you can see the focus on

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis's face. The Pope utters some more words, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Angel sits upright right in his wheelchair, erect

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<v Speaker 1>straight like a board. His mouth opens really wide, and

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<v Speaker 1>he begins to breathe heavily, almost like he's convulsing or hyperventilating.

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<v Speaker 1>Angel breathes like this, maybe a half a dozen times,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he kind of slumps back into his wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pope releases Angel, and that's when the video stops.

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<v Speaker 1>But before the video ends, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the part that focks with me the most. You could

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<v Speaker 1>see Angel shoot Pope Francis this horrible, nasty ass look,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. That's all we see.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind all this takes place in the matter

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<v Speaker 1>of seconds while a video camera rolls and with at

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<v Speaker 1>least six or seven people they're observing, including members of

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<v Speaker 1>the church. It's one of the craziest, creepiest things I

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<v Speaker 1>have ever seen. And ever since this event, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a hot debate whether or not our Pope Francis is

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<v Speaker 1>an exorcist. Now, after the video of this supposed papal

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<v Speaker 1>excerp was released, the Catholic Church was very careful about

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<v Speaker 1>their wording when explaining what took place between the Pope

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<v Speaker 1>and Angel I bet Now the official message from the

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<v Speaker 1>Vatican this is a quote. Pope Francis didn't intend to

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<v Speaker 1>perform any exorcism, but as he Austoin does for the sick,

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<v Speaker 1>he simply intended to pray for someone who was suffering

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<v Speaker 1>who was presented to him. End quote. However, a crew

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<v Speaker 1>from TV two thousand, the television station for the Italian

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop's Conference, they surveyed a number of exorcists, including the

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<v Speaker 1>Vatican's former chief exorcist, Father Gabriela Morth, and after watching

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<v Speaker 1>the video, all the exorcists agreed that there was no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that Pope Francis performed an exorcism on Angel or

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<v Speaker 1>at least he recited a simple prayer to free the

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<v Speaker 1>poor man from the devil. So listeners, watch the video

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<v Speaker 1>see what you think was this an actual exorcism. Did

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis battled out right then and there with the

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<v Speaker 1>four vile demons? Or was he simply blessing a severely

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<v Speaker 1>handicapped man that was presented to him like he always does.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask me the way Angel reacted sitting up

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<v Speaker 1>Ramrod straight, opening his mouth so wide in that ugly

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<v Speaker 1>look he gave the Pope, that was a fucking exorcism, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, sorry for the sidebard joke. But every

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<v Speaker 3>time you said, you said it twice. Now Ramrod's trade.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking he has a heart on when he gets away,

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<v Speaker 3>when he gets up, I think it's a rock hard on.

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<v Speaker 3>I care you know that's that's not it's funny. It's

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<v Speaker 3>funny image. It's funny that creeps in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know it wasn't intentional. But there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned it twice. Now I'm thinking of rock Hard Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it is not this is I'm glad. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not my question for you weird thing. My question

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<v Speaker 3>to you is that compared to other people he's blessed

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<v Speaker 3>and these kind of ceremonies, does it look exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>same other than the guy's reaction, the way he does

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<v Speaker 3>it is exactly the same, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And all popes do this, well, I mean modern popes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they do this, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely don't know popes at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just again, it's to show that Jesus and

600
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<v Speaker 1>the Church are behind you, no matter your condition. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a very nice thing. And there's this

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<v Speaker 1>particular one when little sideways and ever since it's been

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<v Speaker 1>this heated debate on whether or not Pope Francis is

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<v Speaker 1>an exorcist.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I almost feel like it's almost like it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like a given, uh that the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>number one you.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely you would certainly think.

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<v Speaker 3>So, obviously it makes sense that it's not. Also, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like the president doesn't know how to kill people.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a wet team for that, right, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>the and the CIA analogy that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that analogy actually right, he's got a team of

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<v Speaker 1>people that would do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll get into this later. That apostelic line, that

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<v Speaker 1>lineage from Pope goes all the way back to Catholics

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<v Speaker 1>believe Christians believe to Saint Peter. So this is really

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<v Speaker 1>like the pinnacle when it comes to holiness, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think just by that office he has and

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<v Speaker 1>that supposed direct lineage to Saint Peter, that he would

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<v Speaker 1>have this inherent ability to cast out demons.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not a power, not just the power of

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<v Speaker 3>respect of the office, so the or the position he's holding,

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<v Speaker 3>but also the actual lineage of power, right, right, you

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<v Speaker 3>would think kind of like the avatar kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the avatar of Peter, yeah, right, right, like the path

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<v Speaker 3>lives of other folks, right kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope now Avatar is seen differently by me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, Now I'm sure you might want to know

632
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Angel, Like where is he today? Is

633
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>he safe? Is he free from demons? Yeah? And as

634
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the story goes, Angel underwent several exorcisms while he was

635
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>in Rome, but he wasn't able to be liberated from

636
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the demons possessing him. Now, to take a moment and

637
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>think about that, because it's a frightening thought. The demons

638
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 1>possessing Angel stood against the most powerful man in the

639
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Catholic faith, a successor to Saint Peter himself, and they

640
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be driven out, which is why I think Angel,

641
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever was in Angel shot Pope Francis that nasty

642
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>look as he walked away. The demons were still in there.

643
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 1>It was the demons given the Pope that look, not Angel.

644
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

645
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I was able to find a November twenty twenty article

646
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>from the Catholic News Agency which said that in twenty fifteen,

647
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 1>so two years after this supposed papal exorcism, Angel wrote

648
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to Pope Francis, recounting his story and asking him for

649
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the Pope's prayers. In the letter, Angel asked Pope Francis

650
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 1>to let him know the time and the day he

651
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>would pray for him, so that he Angel could undergo

652
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>another exorcism in Mexico with the additional power, the additional

653
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 1>oomph of the Pope's prayers behind it mixed in the hutzpa.

654
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>So in response, on April twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, Pope

655
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Francis offered his morning Mass for Angel, and he did

656
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 1>it again on May thirteenth, twenty fifteen. Unfortunately, though, according

657
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>to Angel's spiritual director back in Mexico, as of twenty twenty,

658
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>when that article was written, Angel was still not free

659
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of the four demons possessing him, but the director said

660
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>he was doing a little better, was the quote. Now, apparently,

661
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>during Angel's many exorcisms, more than one exorcist said that

662
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the demons infecting him communicated that they would not depart

663
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this poor man until abortion is legalized in Mexico. Just vile.

664
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 3>That's never going to happen.

665
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It was also reported. Well, it was also reported that

666
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the demons said Angel Angel would be liberated on December eighth,

667
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the date of the feat of the Immaculate Conception, but

668
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 1>they never said in what year, the assholes. So, as

669
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>far as we know, Angel is still suffered to this day.

670
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And just so you know, currently abortion is not legal

671
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>all across Mexico. It's only legal in Mexico City and

672
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>in twelve of the country's thirty one states.

673
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 3>That's why I took it back a yeah.

674
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it seems like Angels they.

675
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Also have bluer states than others. Well, it seems like

676
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 3>if you want to boil it down like that, they

677
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 3>don't think of it that way. Of course, you know,

678
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>they don't give a shit about us like that anyway politically,

679
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, they have their Yeah, but in general, it's

680
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 3>pretty catholic there.

681
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, thirteen out of thirty one, so it seems like

682
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 1>he's he's got a long way to go if the

683
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.039
<v Speaker 1>demons are real for real, and they're not going to

684
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 1>leave until it's legalized across Mexico all right now. Strangely,

685
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Italian newspaper has noted that the late Saint John Paul two,

686
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Pope Saint John Paul two, who were talking about next,

687
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:55.559
<v Speaker 1>he performed an exorcism thirty one years earlier in nineteen

688
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>eighty two, in almost the exact same physical spot in

689
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Saint Peter's Square, where Pope Francis may or may not

690
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 1>have performed that exorcism on Angel, which is really kind

691
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of fucking weird.

692
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 3>You you don't even talk about the same room, you

693
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:11.840
<v Speaker 3>mean the exact same.

694
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Almost exactly where he was sitting and physically.

695
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 3>Because I was gonna say, in the same room. You know,

696
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>that's a pretty big space. That makes sense that that

697
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 3>happened before.

698
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Where on the floor where it was almost the exact

699
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>same spot thirty one years in the past.

700
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Was mercury in retrogade at that time? You know, I

701
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 3>don't be interesting to find that out.

702
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I oh, that was kind of creepy though. Now As

703
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>for Pope Saint John Paul two, who was Pope from

704
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight to two thousand and five, just like

705
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 1>our current Pope Francis, John Paul two was also pro exorcisms,

706
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>having at one time asked every diocese across the globe

707
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to find in a point an exorcist. We kind of

708
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 1>touched on that in the last episode. Saint John Paul

709
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>two also believed that the devil is an actual person,

710
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>not an abstraction, just like Polpe Francis. Now, as far

711
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>as papal exorcisms, Saint John Paul two performed his first

712
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>exorcism in the Vatican on March twenty seventh, nineteen eighty two,

713
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>in almost the exact same spot where Pope Francis would

714
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>encounter Angel thirty one years in the future, which I

715
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but for some reason it gives me

716
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the chills every time I say it now. On that day,

717
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>during his weekly audience, a local bishop from the town

718
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of Spiletto, Italy, brought a nineteen year old woman named

719
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Francesca Fabrizi to the Pope, asking for his help. Reports

720
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>say that Francesca was seated in the front rows usually

721
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>reserved for the disabled, just like Angel was. And apparently

722
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>she became very excited and agitated as the Pope blessed

723
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the crowd of some thirty thousand faithful that were in

724
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>attendance that day. So this is a huge event every

725
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>time these papal blessing makes sense. That's when Francesca started

726
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>yelling strange, disjointed phrases in Italian as well as streams

727
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>of words and unknown languages. A Vatican official seated close

728
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to Francesca tried to calm her down by showing her

729
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 1>a crucifix and a photo of the blessed Virgin, but

730
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 1>that only enraged Francesca more and she hurled insults at

731
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the official, who was actually an archbishop named Giovanni Danzi.

732
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>After John Paul two wrapped up his weekly sermon, he

733
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 1>was briefed on what was happening in the crowd and

734
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 1>he wound up spending a few minutes with Francesca, during

735
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>which he blessed her, He caressed her, and he tried

736
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to calm her and bring her comfort, and apparently that worked.

737
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 1>The woman calmed down and just like that, she was

738
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>cured exercised now, mind you, just like the Church was

739
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 1>very careful how they worded what happened with Pope Francis's

740
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>exorcism of Angel, how it was intended to be an exorcism.

741
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>The church's official word on what happened with John Paul

742
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>two and Francesca was that it was absolutely not an exorcism, period.

743
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, I read that. Francesca she reappeared

744
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a few years after this incident along with her husband

745
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and her children, and she spent some time with Saint

746
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 1>John Paul two, and she never showed signs of possession again.

747
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 1>John Paul two won the Devil's zero.

748
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 3>By two. You mean the second, right, yeah?

749
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, John Paul second.

750
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everything I say two, I think is it the sequel?

751
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Like?

752
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Where's the popening maternity? Put that in? Everything? Aren't there?

753
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 3>You actually lost me. I don't know where I was

754
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 3>going to go somewhere. Sorry, you got knocked it out

755
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 3>of there?

756
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, Francesco she was cured John Paul too.

757
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I wonder if the wording was different. Do you

758
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>think it has to do with the times?

759
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, oh, just period versus Yeah. Yeah,

760
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 1>he was saying some prayers, wasn't really an exorcism? He

761
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't really mean to do it.

762
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Also, what's I mean? I remember, I remember part one exists,

763
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:04.840
<v Speaker 3>so listeners, make sure you listen to that, but I

764
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>don't entirely remember all the details. Does that technically qualify

765
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 3>as an exorcism? I'm talking about the Angel incident.

766
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it does. Yeah, Okay, you got to see

767
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the video. It's absolutely an exorcism.

768
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Ok some shit, right, I haven't seen it. We're doing

769
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 3>the show.

770
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Or an attempted exorcism, because according to the story, it

771
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't work.

772
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>All right, right, right, and racism. It's only satisfied once

773
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>the demons are out. Otherwise it's always attempted.

774
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>That's right, because the demons got to be they got

775
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to be expelled and the body filled with Jesus in

776
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit, because if the body is filled with goodness,

777
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 1>there's no room for evil to Endwell, we talked about

778
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that in the last one.

779
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's familiar. Okay, I'm back, I'm back, all right now.

780
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Another exorcism performed by John Paul. The second was much

781
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>more dramatic. In the year two thousand, during another one

782
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>of the Pope's weekly audiences in Saint Peter's Square, a

783
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>possessed woman by the name of Sabrina was brought to

784
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the Vatican, and as soon as she entered Saint Peter's Square,

785
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>she immediately began to scream, and she actually tried to

786
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 1>lunge at the Pope like a wild animal and attack him.

787
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Reports say it took ten people to hold Sabrina down.

788
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 1>She was drooling heavily and yelling blasphemies. And after his

789
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>weekly address, John Paul the Second asked to meet with Sabrina,

790
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>and witnesses say that as soon as the Pope got close,

791
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 1>her eyes glazed over like white orbs, and she threw

792
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>her head back and yelled, no, leave me alone, in

793
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a voice that was in her own. John Paul too

794
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>performed an exorcism on the spot, blessing Sabrina several times. Now,

795
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 1>most reports say that the Pope failed to completely exercise Sabrina,

796
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and instead the exorcist for the Diocese of Rome, the

797
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>man we mentioned earlier, Father Gabriel, a morph. He had

798
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to perform several more exorcisms on Sabrina to completely get

799
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 1>rid of her demons, and its stories like this where

800
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the Pope himself couldn't expel a demon that really freaked

801
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>me out. You see, Catholics believe that the pope is

802
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the successor to Saint Peter the Rock we were just

803
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 1>talking about this, whom Jesus appointed as the first head

804
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of his church. Therefore, each pope is part of what

805
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Catholics call the Apostolic succession, this unbroken line straight back

806
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>to Saint Peter and his supreme authority. Therefore, the pope

807
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be the top of the food chain

808
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>in term of holiness. So if this guy can't can't

809
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>get rid of a demon, what the fuck does that

810
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>say about the demon? Yeah, now we have to do

811
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a quick time out here. I gotta do a little

812
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>side step. I just got to mention that you can't

813
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about exorcisms without talking about Father Gabriel Amorth, the

814
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 1>priest who we said had completed John Paul Two's exorcism

815
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of Sabrina, Father of More. He was a priest for

816
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>like sixty years, and he was the Attican's chief exorcist,

817
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>said to have performed hundreds, if not literally thousands barely exorcisms,

818
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and he's the one that founded the International Association of Exorcists,

819
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 1>that club. I mentioned earlier that I want to belong to. Yeah, ye,

820
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the CIA, the CIA for the Pope. Yeah. Now, in

821
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, William Friedkin, who we all know from the

822
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Exorcist movie, made a really good documentary about Father of

823
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Morth called The Devil and Father of Morth. And just

824
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 1>last year the movie Oscar the Pope's Exorcist came out

825
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>featuring Russell Crowe's Father of Morth.

826
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 3>That was a fun movie.

827
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It was fun.

828
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dumb.

829
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm really kind of hoping Hollywood uses Father

830
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 1>of Morth's cases and creates movies around them like they

831
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 1>did with the Warrens and the Conjuring movies. I think

832
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 1>that would be fucking awesome. But sadly, Father of More

833
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>passed away in September of twenty sixteen. And I'm telling you,

834
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this guy's life was so interesting. We got to set

835
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>time aside to do an episode or two.

836
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 3>On him, and sounds like there's a lot a lot

837
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 3>of material stories on him, not to mention the the

838
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 3>amount of stuff we don't know right.

839
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>That would be a great episode or two. And we

840
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>listeners had to take a quick break. We're not playing

841
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>any music or anything, so we're coming back. But during

842
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>this quick little break we took Oscar watched that video

843
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 1>of Paul Francis and Angel, and I just wanted to

844
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>get his thoughts on it real quick before I continue

845
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>with So, Benedict the sixteenth, this is the next Pope

846
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about.

847
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So, first of all, your description was it was good?

848
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean I basically said exactly what you what you

849
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 3>described Two things. One and I'm only mentioned because I'm

850
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 3>an idiot. I wasn't listening completely clearly. But for some reason,

851
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 3>imagine that he actually the guy Angel stood up and

852
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:51.920
<v Speaker 3>you just meant like he kind of like set up

853
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.440
<v Speaker 3>for some reason. I imagine him getting up. No, I

854
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 3>was like, that makes no sense, a miracle, that makes

855
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 3>no sense, But it be a miracle, rightything else, So

856
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 3>there's one just in case other listeners thought the same

857
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 3>thing I did.

858
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>No.

859
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Secondly, and this is something that you didn't say that

860
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like, I was like, hmmm, is at

861
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 3>for a second there in the middle of that very

862
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:19.199
<v Speaker 3>short clip of him touching of Pope touching Angel, he's

863
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 3>this is before he gives that face that look like

864
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck?

865
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Bro?

866
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 3>He the Angel looked older and then he became younger again.

867
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>That's to me.

868
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 3>That's like, that's how it looked like when he was

869
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 3>like when he had his mouth open, like for a second,

870
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>he looked I thought he was older. I almost said

871
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 3>it a lot while I was watching the video, like, oh,

872
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 3>he's an older guy. He's not gonna make it out

873
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 3>very long. And then you know, the Pope's hands retreated.

874
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I asked his full face more and like, oh no,

875
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 3>he's not. He's like not my age, but he's younger.

876
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh wow, and in my head like,

877
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 3>oh I thought he was older first se.

878
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So do you so after seeing that now, and I'm

879
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go back and look and see if

880
00:46:59.519 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it's you.

881
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Know, this is just my first reaction to it.

882
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah's a face change. Do you think that's the demon

883
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 1>coming through?

884
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't know. I mean the idea of

885
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 3>that kind of toll. You know, you think of an

886
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 3>immense amount of stress on somebody. You you've seen cases,

887
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 3>We've seen cases. I think I've been a victim of

888
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>this case where you get a gray hair or something, right, yeah,

889
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>oh God forbid a whole streak or a whole head

890
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 3>of hair. It depends on what happens. I famously think

891
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 3>of twin peaks, Laura Palmer's dad goes through his Great

892
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Streak phase because of the Laura Palmer's murder. Uh, you know,

893
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that kind of amount of stress could

894
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 3>fucking age you, you know things. Attribute this to like

895
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 3>a presidential term. Also like Obama when he went in

896
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 3>he looked a lot younger. When a lot younger, he did,

897
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 3>not just age eight years, aged eighty years. That's how

898
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I felt, That's how it seemed to me. It wasn't

899
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.840
<v Speaker 3>like I saw the demon, more like I saw the

900
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 3>effects of the demon more pronounced, because I was so

901
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 3>surprised when I saw a clearer picture of Angel that

902
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 3>he was younger than I had thought originally.

903
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, listeners, see what you think? What do

904
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you see in that video? Let us know? Yeah, contact

905
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 1>at chicag Ghost podcast dot com. Anything else on that video?

906
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>No freaky though, yeah, fucking weird. This shit's real, man.

907
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I am one hundred percent a believer. This shit is real.

908
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't fuck with weigi boards, don't fuck with crystals and

909
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>all that nonsense. Just read the Bible and do good shit.

910
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.159
<v Speaker 3>You could fuck with chryslers though.

911
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh Yeah. The Chrysler. Yeah, the La Baron. What a

912
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 1>piece of shit.

913
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 3>What a piece of shit.

914
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Everyone had him in the nineties though, the convertible Chrysler Baron.

915
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

916
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, let's talk about Pope Benedict the sixteenth, the Catholic

917
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>pulpe from two thousand and five to twenty and thirteen.

918
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>In May of two thousand and nine, our demon fighter

919
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 1>friend Father and Morp brought two men to Saint Peter's

920
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Square during one of Pump Benedict the sixteenth weekly audiences. Now,

921
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the two men named Giovanni and Marco, began to tremble

922
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and chatter their teeth as the Pope approached in his popemobile. Yes,

923
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a popemobile. Look it up. It's awesome.

924
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 3>It's the real thing. Yeah.

925
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 1>And when Pope Benedict exited his popemobile, both of these

926
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 1>men flung themselves on the ground and they began to

927
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:23.639
<v Speaker 1>howl and bang their heads on the concrete. From a distance,

928
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Benedict the sixteenth raised his arms and blessed the two men.

929
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Father of Morth says that at that point, Giovanni and

930
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Marco were thrown ten feet backwards and they began to

931
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 1>sob and cry hysterically because they were finally rid of

932
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>their demons.

933
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 3>We're maybe five meters.

934
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, I can't do the conversion. I have no clue. Clue,

935
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 1>And now, listeners, I'm sorry, but as I told you

936
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.039
<v Speaker 1>guys this in the beginning, stories about popes performing exorcisms

937
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>are credibly hard to come by, So I'm going to

938
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.559
<v Speaker 1>finish the episode with two more stories. The first story

939
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>is from World War TWI. Now. In September of twenty twenty,

940
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 1>an Italian journalist named Fabio Ragona published a book entitled

941
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Il miome is Setana, My Name is Satan. In his book,

942
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>which is based on actual archived Vatican documents that include

943
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 1>sworn testimonies from people within the Vatican, Rogona reveals that

944
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>during World War II the wartime Pope Pope Pious to twelfth,

945
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 1>who was Pope from March nineteen thirty nine until his

946
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 1>death in October nineteen fifty eight, Pope Pious to twelfth

947
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>sincerely believed that Adolf Hitler and the entire Nazi Party

948
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>were under the influence of demons, that there was no

949
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>other way to explain why Hitler was committing the atrocities

950
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 1>that he was other than he was possessed. To try

951
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and stop the diabotical things Hitler was doing, Pope Pious

952
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to twelve performed multiple exorcisms on to Fure. The Pope

953
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>performed the exorcisms from a distance from a private chapel

954
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 1>inside the Vatican. He hoped that by doing this he

955
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>could help free Hitler from the influences of the evil

956
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>spirits inhabiting him and putting an end to the Nazis.

957
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And from this I really can't say if Pious to

958
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve's remote exorcisms really worked or not. Unfortunately, there's not

959
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a date associated with the story, so you can't really

960
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>pinpoint win during World War Two this supposedly happened. Did

961
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they take place in the days leading up to April thirtieth,

962
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty four, the day Hitler committed suicide and thus

963
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 1>ending to Third Reich. If so, then I'd argue that

964
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the remote exorcisms could have worked. On the other hand,

965
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 1>if the exorcisms took place when Hitler first started marauding

966
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>across Europe, slaughtering people by the millions, then I'd have

967
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to say, no, the exorcisms didn't work. Hard to tell

968
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 1>him this one great story. Nonetheless, that is nuts.

969
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean that also could be a very interesting movie

970
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 3>or story to tell, like fantasize it a little bit.

971
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 3>I have, you have to fictionalize the ship out of that.

972
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 3>But that's like you could do. You know, remember the

973
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 3>movie about Valkyrie Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, It's a basic

974
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 3>on a real story about one of his kernels or

975
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>something went against Hilary and plotted and assassination. Obviously they failed,

976
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.760
<v Speaker 3>but it was a real thing, real tempt they got.

977
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 3>They got squashed, of course, and I got murdered. But uh,

978
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 3>it's like you could you could feel like that, like

979
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, like the magic version Magic and Magic it

980
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 3>tries to whatever take down to the religious faith. But

981
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>what I mean is that you take the supernatural element

982
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:50.400
<v Speaker 3>version of that, right, the religious version of that, but

983
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 3>with the rockery setting. That could be fun. That could

984
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 3>be a fun movie because you know it's been throughout

985
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 3>the ages. Not's either the fear you know, the Third

986
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Reich have been demonized Capital D and also but no,

987
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 3>but I'm saying like literally demon like they're there. They

988
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 3>are demons. They you know, they they've been seeing in

989
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 3>cartoons this way, They've been shown in movies and books

990
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 3>as this way or that you think of the Nazi

991
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>werewolf thing era horror movies like, it's not and it's

992
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 3>not a crazy leap. That's sometimes that could be a

993
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.440
<v Speaker 3>fun saying there's no real thing for me. I don't

994
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 3>have a real insight because we don't know enough that

995
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:32.119
<v Speaker 3>they would be massively, massively appreciated, because you can imagine,

996
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:34.599
<v Speaker 3>like if we knew the date, what kind of speeches

997
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 3>were around that era, if you if you could see

998
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.599
<v Speaker 3>a falter or skip and also if I were were

999
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 3>either pope, I would have added goring and goobals to

1000
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 3>that list, not just a feuror because it wasn't just

1001
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 3>him really.

1002
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, but you're right, yeah, yeah, I just I know

1003
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:55.599
<v Speaker 1>it's a little vague. Yeah, it's a great story. Okay,

1004
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Now my last story isn't about an exorcism on a person.

1005
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 1>It's an exorcism on an idea. This one concerns Pope

1006
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Pious to twelfth and has talked about in Ragona's book

1007
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 1>ilmilnome Satana my name is Satan. So this is another

1008
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.559
<v Speaker 1>story from that book that well researched supposedly inside information

1009
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>book right now, in the book Ragona talks about how

1010
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>on May nineteen. In May nineteen fifty eight, on the

1011
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>eve of the very important Italian general election, Pope Pious

1012
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to twelfth performed multiple remote exorcisms to try and ward

1013
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>off demonic influence from affecting the outcome of the election,

1014
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as there was a very real possibility that the notoriously

1015
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:41.400
<v Speaker 1>anti Catholic Italian Communist Party could win the election against

1016
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the Christian Democrats, with a man named Palmiro Togliati representing

1017
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the Communist Party and Amatoi Fanfani representing the Christian Democracy Party. Now,

1018
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in this instance, it seemed Pope Pious to Twelfth's remote

1019
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 1>exorcisms worked as the Christian Democrat that's one that critical

1020
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 1>election twenty three point three two million votes between the

1021
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 1>upper and lower houses compared to the Communists twelve point

1022
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 1>four million votes, literally almost half the votes. Wow, So

1023
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I would say this remote exorcism worked.

1024
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 3>That's that's funny. I mean, can you I mean, I

1025
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:28.639
<v Speaker 3>don't even know on an idea seems a little like

1026
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 3>using a shotgun to kill a bee kind of thing,

1027
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 3>like overkill. Okay, maybe might wrong, and like you're trying

1028
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 3>to sounds that could be dire consequences, right, hoving to

1029
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 3>kill an idea. I mean, you see, you've as seen

1030
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 3>inception come on, you know, supplanting or taking out an idea.

1031
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>It's very dangerous work. And you don't know how it's

1032
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.599
<v Speaker 3>going to happen or how it's going to fruit negatively afterwards. True,

1033
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of like the butterfly effect, how it's.

1034
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Going to fruit negatively afterwards.

1035
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I'm not saying I believe that this works,

1036
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 3>but they do so to think that, to think that

1037
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 3>they would be I mean, I know it's a different time,

1038
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:10.480
<v Speaker 3>people think differently. I get it. Communism was much more

1039
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 3>of a real threat things like that. I get it.

1040
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't get it at than lit those times,

1041
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 3>but I get it. So I don't know how Dyer

1042
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 3>it felt. But still it seems like I would have

1043
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 3>rethought this first personally, not because I'm pro communism, but

1044
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.159
<v Speaker 3>definitely I'm circle of cripitalism. But like in general, I'm saying,

1045
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:29.960
<v Speaker 3>in general, we shouldn't dismiss ideas.

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00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Got it, No, I get it. Very interesting, that's cool.

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00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Though.

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00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Here's this this this little man, this little polpe man,

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00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.599
<v Speaker 1>right in a secluded room in the Vatican, fucking Vatican,

1050
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>its own country, right, Yeah, secluded in the most holiest

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00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of holy buildings, and he's performing remote exorcism. That's how

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00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>much he believes in this practice, this belief.

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00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 3>This reminds me of so many other things that we've

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00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:57.320
<v Speaker 3>talked about on the show, Like one of them is

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00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.199
<v Speaker 3>the idea. And I mentioned this before even recently one

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00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 3>of our previous shows from this year where I mentioned

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00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 3>ones and I remember how the context, but that the

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00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 3>power player is a real thing, Like.

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00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about that last episode.

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00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Was it last episode? Okay, I wasn't sure if it

1061
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 3>was that recent or if it was before, But the

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00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 3>power Player is a real thing, and there's a there's

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00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 3>many you mentioned that two examples of that happening where

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00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the remote prayer is a big example of the main

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00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 3>head of the successor line from Saint Peter doing that remotely.

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00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Is that kind of thing, you know, he has the

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00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 3>power of all that, Like it also makes you believe,

1068
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 3>not believe, take the power of belief into account for

1069
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the things that kind of shape the world,

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00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 3>like whether we know it or not, things that we

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00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 3>can explain for people who are not religious, maybe people

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00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:48.360
<v Speaker 3>who still are are still being governed by things like

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00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 3>this because so many people believe it. Like, regardless of

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00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 3>what you feel want about it, Catholicism slash religious in

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00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 3>general are moving the world regardless of what you ever

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00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 3>say or thing, regardless of how logical you are, I

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00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 3>am whatever, it's not going to change the fact that

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00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 3>most people believe and that will always change the world, right,

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00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 3>and that's that should not be forgotten.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. Before we close out,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you what do you think of

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00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 1>this idea where the holiest of holy people Pope can't

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00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:27.280
<v Speaker 1>exercise a demon, cannot expel a demon? What what what

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00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 1>do you think of that?

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00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's a bad thing. I think there's

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00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 3>a right person for the job, which.

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00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I wonder.

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00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 3>I also feel like it's time based how so, like

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00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 3>for example, like a lot of the things that people

1090
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:42.880
<v Speaker 3>don't realize when you're when you fall in love is

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00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:46.679
<v Speaker 3>that time is a big factor. You need to have

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00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the right timing to fall in love with someone. Like

1093
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 3>if you're in a bad time in your life, you'll

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00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:53.920
<v Speaker 3>never meet the private person, you know what I'm saying.

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00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 3>So when you stop looking kind of like that, Well,

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00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.360
<v Speaker 3>that's that's playing cheek, a little little tongue in cheek,

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00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 3>but like, yeah, it's a little true, Like you need

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00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:04.199
<v Speaker 3>the right time, Like you can meet the greatest person,

1099
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.199
<v Speaker 3>that's for you, but if you're both married to different people,

1100
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 3>that's the wrong time, right right. Like things like that,

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00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the same can be applied to exorcisms.

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00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not just the right person necessarily, but the right time.

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00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Like whenever Angels four demons could have been taken down,

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00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 3>either the time was before that time or after, and

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00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 3>they missed it. They missed that window.

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00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think interesting. I was thinking, well, what

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00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>if what if the Pope isn't as popely as he

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00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 1>likes to believe?

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00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 3>If the popeology doesn't that's hard to say.

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00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 1>But what if what if he has doubts about his holiness?

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00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>What if he has doubts about his faith?

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00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he's pretty human to have doubts. Can't he

1113
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:56.719
<v Speaker 3>is the human? Yeah?

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00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Of course, although he succeeds directly from Saint Peter. So

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01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess see that kind of irks me.

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01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 3>It sees me out a little bit because it kind

1117
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 3>of leaks a little bit of monarchies. Or is that

1118
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 3>the right word? One of my thinking, you know, kings

1119
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 3>and queens and shd that that you can only be

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01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 3>the ruler of land if you're descending from the previous

1121
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 3>ruler thrones, right like any Well, we've had that kings

1122
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 3>and queens here for a long time. Sure, I mean,

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01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Game took it from Europe.

1124
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, monarchy I think is correct.

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01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Monarchy right, Okay, it's just been a while as I

1126
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 3>thought of these words. So monarchy, I feel like it

1127
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 3>feels too much like that. I'm definitely against that as

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01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 3>a ruling society. I hate that. But excuse me out

1129
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, not a lot, not enough to dissuade me.

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01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that. That's how it seems to me.

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01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Did that answer anything? I don't know.

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01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It was just our thoughts on the

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01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 1>fact that some demons can't Does that bout you know,

1134
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that he couldn't do it? Kind of does? It's freaky,

1135
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 1>that's freaky. Shit.

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01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Do you think evil is more prominent? You know? And

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01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:08.719
<v Speaker 3>with time and the current times?

1138
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, we're fucked. We're fucked. We're about to

1139
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 1>We're we're about to drink more whiskey. And record a

1140
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:20.280
<v Speaker 1>different episode on a real sick fucker. So yeah, we're

1141
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:24.320
<v Speaker 1>fucked evil progresses man, and it's I think. I think

1142
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it's winning. I really do. And that scares me, especially

1143
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 1>having kids and stuff. That shit scares me scares me

1144
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>a little less beause I don't have kids. Yeah, well

1145
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe one day.

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01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 3>No, shut up, tight your tongue, don't do it. Bite

1147
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.519
<v Speaker 3>your tongue, don't try to cut it off. All right,

1148
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:41.599
<v Speaker 3>And with that we shore on our show listeners.

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01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I truly hope you like this little series on exorcisms.

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01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Happy All Saints Day. Make sure and go and check

1151
01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the show notes for DJ Eric Rich's socials. Tell all

1152
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>your friends and family about our podcast. Subscribe like whatever.

1153
01:01:58.039 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 3>And your enemies too.

1154
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Tell your enemies, especial your enemies. We need the support. Oscar,

1155
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 1>please take us home. He's meant to be shared. Man.

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01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen the Platform Part two? Well? Probably both

1157
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 3>part one.

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01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 1>We really like part two.

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01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I love part one. When it came out, you like

1160
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:49.719
<v Speaker 3>part two?

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01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get into it. Why not? I don't know

1162
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I can't tell you what I didn't

1163
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:56.639
<v Speaker 1>like about it. I just I couldn't get into it.

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01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I couldn't get into it. I'm thinking that maybe

1165
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.239
<v Speaker 3>the thing that you didn't connect to was they added

1166
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 3>as religious aspect to it. Well, some people could see

1167
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 3>it that way. I didn't see it that way, but

1168
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 3>it's possible.

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01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was that. I just I

1170
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.079
<v Speaker 1>guess I could. I could have given a shit less

1171
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:13.679
<v Speaker 1>about the characters, like I wasn't.

1172
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't give a show without characters the last time either.

1173
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:18.280
<v Speaker 3>And I still love the movie. Bro, have you seen

1174
01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:18.880
<v Speaker 3>the Substance?

1175
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:21.679
<v Speaker 1>No, dude, you told me about it. I want to

1176
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>see it.

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01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 3>I've seen it twice. Now, did you really so good?

1178
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.679
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny too. I think it's also pretty funny.

1180
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you'll take it. I think you'll

1181
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 3>take it funny.

1182
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I get weirded out with body horror like I did.

1183
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Like it's fun, but I get really freaked out with

1184
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 1>body horror. Is it that?

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01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:44.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Look, because I'm reading, I mean you and

1186
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 3>I are prose with horror with pros. Yeah, we've seen

1187
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 3>it all. It's not gonna I mean, you've definitely never

1188
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.599
<v Speaker 3>seen this body horror like this. For sure, it's new,

1189
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:56.079
<v Speaker 3>but it's not. We've seen extreme Okay, you know what

1190
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. Okay, but it's up there. It's an extreme category.

1191
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just that we've seen other dreams. To a lot

1192
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:02.519
<v Speaker 3>of people, though it was bat new. This is horrifying

1193
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 3>to that. That's how people walk out of the theater

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01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 3>at both time.

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01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So you actually saw that, So that happened.

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01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Yeah, that's their dumb ass fall of not understanding

1197
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 3>what the hell they're walking into.

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01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's kind of cool that we have something like

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01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 1>that nowadays.

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01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, well that's what I've been telling people, is I

1201
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 3>guess all stickle goal, we're going to come back to

1202
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 3>this stuff.

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01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, in the beast seventies and eighties, it seems

1204
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like that happened pretty frequently. Yeah, that's how you just

1205
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 1>have to push that envelope. Yep, and far nowadays we're

1206
01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:26.159
<v Speaker 1>back then.

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01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:27.639
<v Speaker 3>And we weren't around them in seven is in eighty

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01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 3>As much as I make fun of you, we weren't

1209
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 3>actually around that much. So like, yeah, we don't know.

1210
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 3>In the seventies and eighties there, well, there was also

1211
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:36.519
<v Speaker 3>a ship ton of sequels and remakes that people complained about,

1212
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 3>just like today, Like it's the same man. Also, if

1213
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.719
<v Speaker 3>you just look around. There's plenty of original movies out there,

1214
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 3>that's right, the hs beyond.

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01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the one when they were in the airplane that

1216
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:50.719
<v Speaker 1>was great.

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01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 3>That was like the best one.

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01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, easily the best one.

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01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Easily the best one. You know, Katie Siegel is one

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01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:57.400
<v Speaker 3>of the directors.

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01:04:58.239 --> 01:04:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Who is Katie Siegel?

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01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Casey, if my memory strikes and double check, is the

1223
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 3>lead actress from My Married the Children. That's what I thought,

1224
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:10.320
<v Speaker 3>tis not her. I don't think it is always a

1225
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:11.360
<v Speaker 3>different Because.

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01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 1>We watched another movie that had Katie's Siegel. I'm like,

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01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.039
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's cool. Waited the whole movie and

1228
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:21.599
<v Speaker 1>peg never popped up. Really, yes, so it's somebody else

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01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that's Kate Kate Siegel. They're saying Katie Siegel or vice versas.

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01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Really, did I get it wrong? I thought it was her.

1231
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I thought like, oh, maybe another actor you know, doing

1232
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 3>movies or whatever.

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01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, no, but I don't think. I don't

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01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 1>think that's her, do you hear me? Okay, by the way, oh.

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01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Yes I do.

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01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 2>This is what I wanted.

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01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, So I was both right and wrong. Kate

1238
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Siegel is both an actor and but it's not that

1239
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 3>you're right Katie Siegel is the married with children girl.

1240
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Katie.

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01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.599
<v Speaker 3>Kate Siegel is also an actress. She did in movies

1242
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 3>with like Hush. She was the lead actress in Hush,

1243
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:05.440
<v Speaker 3>and she did a lot of those Netflix horror stories

1244
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.199
<v Speaker 3>made by that one guy who does a little The

1245
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Matter wand Haunting of Hill House.

1246
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you took.

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01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Going with the gloves in that one with always wearing gloves, right,

1248
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 3>that's her. So this is her, remember I don't. So

1249
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:23.719
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty Yeah, she's in a bunch of movies and stuffs.

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01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.239
<v Speaker 3>She loves horror. She only wants wants to do horror.

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01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 3>And then the other person that did something is remember

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01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 3>that for Babies, the dog one, the dog should segment. Yes, yes, yes,

1253
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.960
<v Speaker 3>that was made by Justin Monk. Was it really yeah,

1254
01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 3>directed by him. But she did the store away one,

1255
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.920
<v Speaker 3>she did the airplane one, so that was.

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01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I think the best one.

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01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 3>It's the best one was weird.

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01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't remember like that.

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01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Also, I thought there was supposed to be aliens. I

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01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:54.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't get what the aliens said in that one, but whatever,

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01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:56.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it did. I don't think it did either.

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01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:58.719
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying, Yeah, I thought I thought the purpose

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01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:03.199
<v Speaker 3>of this VHS movie was all alien stories, and that

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01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 3>one didn't seem.

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01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Like You're right, that's right. So what was the first story? Again?

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01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Yeah, I had the page just gone.

1267
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:12.840
<v Speaker 3>So you don't want me to go so damn paranormal?

1268
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to keep it the same?

1269
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:16.960
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm just asking you. I don't know. I mean,

1270
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:21.239
<v Speaker 3>there's no wrong answer to Jay. I'm just I'm just

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01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.079
<v Speaker 3>making sure.

1272
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:25.280
<v Speaker 1>How it would sound like if we play off what

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01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.840
<v Speaker 1>she says last. Yeah, the right listeners were here.

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01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh I see. Also, this could be like part of

1275
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 3>the new intro from not One, like a staple that's different.

1276
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh I see.

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01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking.

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01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, I'm done with that completely down. I will

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01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 3>say I did make a list, not I don't have

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01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to use it. I made a list of different kinds

1281
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.800
<v Speaker 3>of adjectives I would use instead of so damp paranormal.

1282
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't have to use them. I'm not tied. I'm

1283
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:56.719
<v Speaker 3>not tied to them.

1284
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.079
<v Speaker 1>You know we could we could still say it.

1285
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, how can we do it?

1286
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>No?

1287
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:06.880
<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's fine. I'm also joking. I don't have

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01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 3>a list. I have thought of a few words. But

1289
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.599
<v Speaker 3>I did see this weird trilogy of movies that I

1290
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:19.119
<v Speaker 3>don't recommend, called The Underground Something, The Underground. I think

1291
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:23.880
<v Speaker 3>it's called The Underground Murders, The Underground Something. Three movies

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01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.439
<v Speaker 3>almost made back to back. I think I don't know

1293
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:30.840
<v Speaker 3>how they were made. They're all like super found footage.

1294
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 3>They're all fond footage.

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01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that could be good or bad, right, I would.

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01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Say it's only good in the sense that it's very devoted,

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01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Like they go all out to make it feel as

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01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 3>genuine as possible as a home video as you can

1299
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:49.920
<v Speaker 3>make it. And it's about these uh, complete dick holes

1300
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:57.920
<v Speaker 3>people who are crazy, murdering, asshole dirty people type. They're

1301
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.479
<v Speaker 3>like white trash, but they murder people are based on

1302
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 3>mood and horniness. Really they can have a lot of women,

1303
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:07.960
<v Speaker 3>and they make it look so genuine they do. They

1304
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.359
<v Speaker 3>make these actors do things that you genuinely think a

1305
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:13.000
<v Speaker 3>few times, is this real?

1306
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Really?

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01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Which I think it's cool in its own way,

1308
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 3>like a horror thing. Like I would hate to think

1309
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:22.239
<v Speaker 3>that I watched a horror movie and laughed at something

1310
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.640
<v Speaker 3>or enjoyed it, and if it was real, that would

1311
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 3>make me feel like really bad. Yeah, I don't want

1312
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 3>that to happen. And obviously it's fake, but like it

1313
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.199
<v Speaker 3>looks really real, Like you questioned it, like did they

1314
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 3>make them eat that disgusting thing just for the movie?

1315
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Did they make them?

1316
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:38.479
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1317
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.760
<v Speaker 3>How did did choke that girl out that long? I mean,

1318
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 3>it's all made in someone's basement. This is a super

1319
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 3>low red movie. Wow, you know, like how do they

1320
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:51.560
<v Speaker 3>make this? You know, you know, like whatever, it's pretty

1321
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 3>horrifying and in the sense I could just just brutality,

1322
01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:58.079
<v Speaker 3>but like the movie has no there's nothing going on,

1323
01:09:58.279 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's.

1324
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Just just brutal, brutal.

1325
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so its it's a novelty at best.

1326
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:06.119
<v Speaker 1>And what's it called?

1327
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I have it in my.

1328
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Right here?

1329
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:11.319
<v Speaker 3>What am I doing?

1330
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 1>While you're looking that up? That reminds me of a

1332
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.000
<v Speaker 1>movie I saw and I can't remember the name, but

1333
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:21.079
<v Speaker 1>it was a documentary about a Texas town that one

1334
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 1>night someone came through and killed everybody in the town, everybody.

1335
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.319
<v Speaker 3>That's sounds familiar. And what's the name of it?

1336
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of it's it was riveting

1337
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, this is crazy.

1338
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a great podcast episode, and I

1339
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:37.880
<v Speaker 1>looked it up and it was a mockumentary. I'm like, motherfucker,

1340
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Like they had me, dude, they had me.

1341
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had me, and it had like this kind

1342
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:47.359
<v Speaker 3>of remember the names, what year and nothing? Damn August

1343
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:49.039
<v Speaker 3>on the ground August.

1344
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've seen that or something.

1345
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 3>They came out. The first one came out in two

1346
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:55.640
<v Speaker 3>thousand and one, two and three, and twousand and seven.

1347
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Those are the three. I can tell them to you

1348
01:10:58.039 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 3>if you want by then, I don't know, if you

1349
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:00.640
<v Speaker 3>don't worry.

1350
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could remember the name of that Texas thing.

1351
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 3>It sounds a little familiar, but not that familiar either,

1352
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:09.520
<v Speaker 3>So I can't tell you I was.

1353
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I was in, I was hooked, I was I was bemboozled.

1354
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1355
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw one like that one mocumentary that it

1356
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't bad booles to me because I knew going in

1357
01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 3>that it was a mockumentary, but it almost got me still,

1358
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:29.159
<v Speaker 3>like it was so genuine, like so good. It was

1359
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:32.359
<v Speaker 3>called it was one of those Lake movies, Lake Mungo Lake.

1360
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Lakemungo. I might have gotten wrong,

1361
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.399
<v Speaker 3>though it might be a different lake. It's a documentary

1362
01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:39.880
<v Speaker 3>about the school that goes missing, and there's like cell

1363
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.319
<v Speaker 3>phone footage but like two thousand and five era cell

1364
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:45.359
<v Speaker 3>phone or six or something, and they show that at

1365
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 3>the end, but they do anyviews with these families, with

1366
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 3>the families of the girl and let up to the disappearance.

1367
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 3>It all feels so genuinely like a documentary. They act

1368
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:56.199
<v Speaker 3>like a family literally pulls out of nowhere. They act,

1369
01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:58.439
<v Speaker 3>they act like they don't know how to act. It's

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01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 3>so good. Well, I might I guess, fooling me. I'm

1371
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:02.720
<v Speaker 3>watching a movie that I know. It's a movie.

1372
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's good. That's good producing and writing and.

1373
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Acting, acting, especially the father. The father does such a

1374
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:10.359
<v Speaker 3>good job.

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01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Is there nudity in the original Halloween?

1376
01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:13.960
<v Speaker 2>No?

1377
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah?

1378
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.279
<v Speaker 1>There is? Yeah in the original Hello the first Halloween.

1379
01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you want me to tell you where?

1380
01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>No?

1381
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Because Katy was just asking, like, what's a good Halloween

1382
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:25.279
<v Speaker 1>movie to start Nico with?

1383
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean it's it's it's in the dark. It's

1384
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 3>remember the boyfriend that Michael Myers kills, like chokes him

1385
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 3>to death, the girl before he's fucking you see your tads?

1386
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 1>You do he's seen boobs before.

1387
01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 3>You don't see anything else as far as my memory goes.

1388
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 3>And you see like a lot of through the blouse

1389
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:47.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of nipples if that matters to you. Because it's

1390
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.239
<v Speaker 3>the seventies, you know, they don't have no bras you know,

1391
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:54.319
<v Speaker 3>so maybe even Jamie Leader Curtis, I'm not sure, but yeah,

1392
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:55.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of a lot of nipple through the shirt

1393
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of action. Do not show him return I Living

1394
01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Dead though. That girl's naked the whole movie, like Stark naked,

1395
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:06.640
<v Speaker 3>so naked in fact that I looked her up. I'm like,

1396
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 3>was she porn?

1397
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1398
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Did she? Did they hire a porn started to do

1399
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:12.760
<v Speaker 3>this because I couldn't believe how they made this actress.

1400
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Do all this, which she just knows.

1401
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:15.279
<v Speaker 3>No, no, not no, but she did a lot of

1402
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:17.920
<v Speaker 3>horror in the eighties, but like, no, not a porn.

1403
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, God, damn, poor girl went to the ringer

1404
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:21.640
<v Speaker 3>on this on these sets.

1405
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, he's seen he's seen Polter Guy. He's

1406
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.279
<v Speaker 1>he's I don't know if he's seen anime. Though you

1407
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.800
<v Speaker 1>see Jaws, he's seen that.

1408
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Maybevill It was pretty tame compared No, am I wrong?

1409
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1410
01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean the conjuring I have seen has he

1411
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 3>seen The Conjuring. No, that's a perfect kid, not kid,

1412
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:47.640
<v Speaker 3>but like not violent like that right as a PG

1413
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 3>thirteen movie, But only that one. The rest kind of

1414
01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the rest kind of go downhill. I mean, I like

1415
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 3>The Conjuring too, but I don't love it like the

1416
01:13:58.840 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 3>first one.

1417
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.279
<v Speaker 3>I've been watching a lot of movies. Maybe I could

1419
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 3>just give you a few ideas. Oh, don't watch Joker.

1420
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>It sucked. It's so they fucking thinking.

1421
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:15.399
<v Speaker 3>You saw it?

1422
01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:20.039
<v Speaker 1>No, No, for just that reason. Everywhere you turn it sucks.

1423
01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Everyone hates it. Man, What were they thinking? Why would

1424
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>they do that? The First Joker was fantastic. I loved it.

1425
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like it.

1426
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh man.

1427
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 3>I've always been on the not the hate training Joker,

1428
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.159
<v Speaker 3>but I definitely thought that the first Joker is it.

1429
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 3>It is a masterpiece in comparison. You know what I'm saying?

1430
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a what a shame.

1431
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.159
<v Speaker 3>It's because my biggest pine with the First Joker and

1432
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.199
<v Speaker 3>everyone was loving it. It is like, I just like,

1433
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:47.920
<v Speaker 3>all I see is these two Scorsese movies pushed together.

1434
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 3>And I've seen those two scorss movies. Why do I

1435
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 3>care which?

1436
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

1437
01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Taxi Driver and the one that literally it's about Robert

1438
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:02.399
<v Speaker 3>de Niro trying to be Carson and goes to the

1439
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Late show.

1440
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Casino.

1441
01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:08.720
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, it's not no.

1442
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He has his little show and Casino.

1443
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh I see he does.

1444
01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:13.039
<v Speaker 1>No.

1445
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:14.159
<v Speaker 3>No, this is much more.

1446
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:15.039
<v Speaker 1>No, this is much more.

1447
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:17.720
<v Speaker 3>He's like a stand up comedian. Like it's very much

1448
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.560
<v Speaker 3>like Joker. It's exactly like the plot of Joker. Huh uh,

1449
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:25.720
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna tell me nuts. I need to look it

1450
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:28.279
<v Speaker 3>up now. I can't believe what I will remember.

1451
01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bro, I liked it. I like the original Joker.

1452
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe what they did in the second one.

1453
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Why they would make that choice. It's got to be

1454
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 1>a joke. I think the real Joker is still said

1455
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to come out. Yeah, well.

1456
01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:51.439
<v Speaker 3>No, it won't come out. The King of Comedy never

1457
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:58.279
<v Speaker 3>seen it. Yeah, good, passionate yet unsuccessful comedian stalks and

1458
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 3>kidnaps his idol to take the spotlight for himself. Very

1459
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 3>similar vibes. They were the most copy of scene, exactly

1460
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:07.319
<v Speaker 3>like it. I'm like, why do I give a shit

1461
01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:07.920
<v Speaker 3>about the Joker?

1462
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pick up on that.

1463
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't like.

1464
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:12.760
<v Speaker 1>What about Megalopolis?

1465
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:14.399
<v Speaker 3>I saw that too, dude.

1466
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:16.039
<v Speaker 1>People are fucking now.

1467
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.680
<v Speaker 3>That movie is also a masterpiece compared to The New Joker.

1468
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll say that, and people, it's not good. No, the

1469
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:29.359
<v Speaker 3>guy is so out of touch. When you who's Scorsese, No, Coppola.

1470
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Fuck Copla.

1471
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:32.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, No, scores gets better?

1472
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right right, Okay, were you at a theater when.

1473
01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.840
<v Speaker 3>They Yeah, not my theater. You have to go to

1474
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:41.720
<v Speaker 3>an imax to see that. You're talking about the interview

1475
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:44.000
<v Speaker 3>thing with Spike Lee. Yeah, I heard all about it,

1476
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.199
<v Speaker 3>though I read so many things, Wait, what are you

1477
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 3>talking about?

1478
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It's where there's an interview scene and oh.

1479
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:53.800
<v Speaker 3>When he comes like he talks to the people on screen,

1480
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 3>like yeah, I also didn't get that. That's also that

1481
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 3>was an imax for regular people. On the opening weekend

1482
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.560
<v Speaker 3>for that movie. I think that one day was out

1483
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:06.439
<v Speaker 3>the first day from New York. Coppola, de Niro and

1484
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Spike Lee won a room together and they did like

1485
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:12.119
<v Speaker 3>a video on call like Q and A before the movie.

1486
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:14.880
<v Speaker 3>And it made no sense. Oh really, of course not

1487
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 3>because Spike Lee and Roberton are not even the movie.

1488
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:18.920
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck all they do is hype up Coppola.

1489
01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense, and apparently the moderator is such

1490
01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 3>a terrible job moderateor like it's a terrible, one bad

1491
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 3>thing after just.

1492
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.520
<v Speaker 1>One hundred million dollars, it does.

1493
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 3>It did create one of everyone's favorite line from that movie.

1494
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember anymore, but something about something, yeah, something,

1495
01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Adam rivers. I forget that. I've heard it many times.

1496
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I really forgot it though, I Smithsonian mine something. I

1497
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:47.119
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I think it's a it's a complete disaster,

1498
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 3>but it's a wonderful, fascinating disaster, for sure. Like he

1499
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:52.640
<v Speaker 3>goes for it, he tries, he's very hopeful, I would say,

1500
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:55.840
<v Speaker 3>compared to Joker, Joker doesn't do Ship, doesn't try. It's

1501
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>like actively going against this audience. Joker too, it literally

1502
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.600
<v Speaker 3>eats his audience. That's what it's about. He's like, you

1503
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.560
<v Speaker 3>love the first Joker wrong, don't love a bad guy.

1504
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:07.279
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna kill him in front of you and do

1505
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 3>nothing with him.

1506
01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Does a Joker die?

1507
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought you knew that. No, Well, it doesn't matter.

1508
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.079
<v Speaker 3>It's so un ceremonious, it's so on ceremony. It's such

1509
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:19.760
<v Speaker 3>a dumb thing you wouldn't even made it through it.

1510
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:23.079
<v Speaker 1>So is this a Joker where he's going to come

1511
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>back into the clown Prince.

1512
01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:26.960
<v Speaker 3>No, they don't give a shit.

1513
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Really.

1514
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:31.199
<v Speaker 3>The only fascinating part of the New Joker is Lady

1515
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Gaga's version of har Harley because and in this and

1516
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:39.399
<v Speaker 3>the New One, she has all the power, so she's

1517
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:43.199
<v Speaker 3>the manipulator. She is the enforcer of that power couple

1518
01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:47.039
<v Speaker 3>to be. You know, when they meet, she's doing she's

1519
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.239
<v Speaker 3>calling all the shots, and that was fascinating, Like I

1520
01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 3>never seen that before, kind of a cool take. It's

1521
01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:54.680
<v Speaker 3>never it's never that way. But they don't do they

1522
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:56.439
<v Speaker 3>don't do anything with it. They literally show it just

1523
01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:58.079
<v Speaker 3>to tell you that it's not going anywhere.

1524
01:18:58.600 --> 01:18:59.560
<v Speaker 1>So what's the point here?

1525
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 3>It's a big fuck you? My opinion is, and the

1526
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 3>director has said it I think in an interview too,

1527
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:08.000
<v Speaker 3>like that's how brazen he feels. He is. He's like,

1528
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 3>I spend all this money to make a movie because

1529
01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.920
<v Speaker 3>he hates the fans that love the first Joker. He

1530
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.479
<v Speaker 3>hates people that love Joker, not the movie, the character,

1531
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:22.279
<v Speaker 3>but like he because a lot of people, I mean

1532
01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.319
<v Speaker 3>not you and I maybe, but a lot of people

1533
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:29.399
<v Speaker 3>loved kind of like idealizing the anti right, it kind

1534
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.159
<v Speaker 3>of like Walter White, I guess, and and people and

1535
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:35.920
<v Speaker 3>people were taking it to not extremes, not even a

1536
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.039
<v Speaker 3>little bit, but like people were talking about that online

1537
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.439
<v Speaker 3>like that, and and that's what he hated.

1538
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And so he basically made a Joker sequel where he

1539
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:50.520
<v Speaker 1>belittle Joker, ecd emasculated Joker with Harley Quinn and other

1540
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:53.239
<v Speaker 1>end of court thing, made all the setup and build

1541
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:56.079
<v Speaker 1>up to literally end with nothing and do nothing with

1542
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it and have no connections to nothing about DC A Joker,

1543
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.319
<v Speaker 1>not that that matter doesn't explain shit.

1544
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.520
<v Speaker 3>It's doesn't. It's literally a fuck you to the fans.

1545
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.640
<v Speaker 3>The whole movie feels and it is a fuck you

1546
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.319
<v Speaker 3>to the fans. Wow, one hundred percent. It's the most

1547
01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 3>anti personal personal movie I've ever seen that spends that much,

1548
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:15.359
<v Speaker 3>because it spend like two hundred million dollars to make it,

1549
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:17.680
<v Speaker 3>and like it's ridiculous, what a waste of money. It

1550
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.399
<v Speaker 3>made no money, thankfully. Oh, I hope, I hope he

1551
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:21.880
<v Speaker 3>goes to the directors Jai because I never liked that

1552
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:22.880
<v Speaker 3>director of fuck Come.

1553
01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:28.760
<v Speaker 1>So I thought so obviously the first one, Yes, Top Phillips,

1554
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>he did the first one too.

1555
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he he made a sequel to his own movie.

1556
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, I didn't know that.

1557
01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was the Hangover movies. I knew that was

1558
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:42.800
<v Speaker 3>his first time. Yeah, that was when it got I

1559
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:44.720
<v Speaker 3>think so. I think so, at least the first one.

1560
01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:45.279
<v Speaker 1>They're funny.

1561
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I remember there being funny. I couldn't tell

1562
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:48.039
<v Speaker 3>you anything that happened to them.

1563
01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mike Tyson, but sure, I love Mike Tyson.

1564
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:55.039
<v Speaker 3>I remember caneong right is not yes from the community.

1565
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Because my question was gonna be more the like

1566
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a new director doing this. Don't they have to stay

1567
01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>within some sort of parameters or something like contracts.

1568
01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:08.800
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't give a ship. The same guy does not

1569
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:11.960
<v Speaker 3>give a ship. Literally, Okay, I can explain to you

1570
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:14.760
<v Speaker 3>what a fuck you felt at the end. So at

1571
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 3>the end, he's in prison. He does not go to

1572
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:21.039
<v Speaker 3>our jail, and uh, he starts off in Arkham. I

1573
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:22.960
<v Speaker 3>think he is still in Arkham by the end. Yeah, Arkham.

1574
01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, any cameos.

1575
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:28.000
<v Speaker 3>We see Harvey Dent. That's it. He's a prosecutor against him.

1576
01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>And who gives a shit about Harvey Dents.

1577
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:32.560
<v Speaker 3>They don't do anything with him. I'll tell you that. Yeah,

1578
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, but that's it anyway, he gets uh. This

1579
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:41.720
<v Speaker 3>is after Harlequin Dumptam his escape attempt failed. He doesn't

1580
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.760
<v Speaker 3>give a shit about anything. He told the truth, meaning

1581
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.399
<v Speaker 3>like there is no joke or it's only been Arthur

1582
01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Fleck whatever his real name is, and he's like whatever,

1583
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:53.039
<v Speaker 3>it's all depressing and weird and doesn't go anywhere. He

1584
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:56.239
<v Speaker 3>gets the guards like, we got a visitor for you.

1585
01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:58.199
<v Speaker 3>He goes out to walk there and one of the

1586
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:04.359
<v Speaker 3>other prisoners confronts him and stab shanks him to death

1587
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:06.439
<v Speaker 3>because he was one of his big support Big girl

1588
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.479
<v Speaker 3>and same there. So he was one of his big supporters.

1589
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>And when he confess the tooth on my Core TV

1590
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.000
<v Speaker 3>that there was no joker and all this, he's like,

1591
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>we got Budther hurt about it, got offended. So he

1592
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:18.239
<v Speaker 3>shanked him on this hallway on his way to see

1593
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 3>a visitor that we never see.

1594
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 1>We don't know who came to see him, not even been.

1595
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:26.359
<v Speaker 3>That's the fuck you among many fuck you's in that movie,

1596
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 3>and that's how it acts.

1597
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck man?

1598
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:33.880
<v Speaker 3>Terrible movie, terrible movie, don't watch it. I'm saving you, Wow,

1599
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:35.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm saving you from yourself.

1600
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's so, that's such a bummer.

1601
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I'm saving you from the rants that. Honestly I

1602
01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:42.640
<v Speaker 3>would have loved to hear because you ran, you ran

1603
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 3>really well.

1604
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:48.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know, wow, dude, Yeah, because I remember when

1605
01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I first heard there was a Joker Too, I'm like, fuck, yes,

1606
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 1>can't wait.

1607
01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:54.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I mean, I was interested. I picked if

1608
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.439
<v Speaker 3>he were reviewing it we reviewing on the show, because

1609
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:58.159
<v Speaker 3>I picked it before I saw it, and I was like,

1610
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll pick Joker Too when it's a big movie, I'll

1611
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:03.800
<v Speaker 3>review it. Then now know it's gonna be that Wow,

1612
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I regret of picking that movie.

1613
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when I heard that, Lady Goga like, okay,

1614
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I could buy you into that.

1615
01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>She's nuts right. It's also a little bit of a

1616
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:12.520
<v Speaker 3>musical exactly. So then when which didn't bug me.

1617
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.920
<v Speaker 1>When I heard musical, I'm like, wait a minute, what's happened?

1618
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:17.399
<v Speaker 3>I think that could be fascinating. You could make a

1619
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.359
<v Speaker 3>fascinating movie with that. The movie is also barely a musical.

1620
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.520
<v Speaker 3>It takes a lot of music that isn't original, which

1621
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it feels weird in the movie. And I

1622
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:29.199
<v Speaker 3>now Legog is great in the movie. It's just that

1623
01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:31.399
<v Speaker 3>she has nothing to do nothing of value to do.

1624
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, is she all tatted up and stuff?

1625
01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 3>No, no, she looks haggard. She looks like she's been

1626
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:40.000
<v Speaker 3>through the ringer but now not tatted at all.

1627
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>No.

1628
01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1629
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it sucks.

1630
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>It really does suck.

1631
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 3>It really with them?

1632
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh really?

1633
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I like, I really like, I mean, Jaqui

1634
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 3>Vini is giving it as all. But like what, you know,

1635
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.039
<v Speaker 3>he's not in charge. He's just an actor.

1636
01:23:58.119 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I like like everything he does.

1637
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:02.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I didn't like Bowls of Fray, but

1638
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:03.680
<v Speaker 3>he was great in bols Afraid.

1639
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen that one, but oh, you haven't seen

1640
01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it everything.

1641
01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I just watched the first hour. Really like, the first

1642
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:11.920
<v Speaker 3>hour is amazing, the second and third and you know,

1643
01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:13.079
<v Speaker 3>gersisted it.

1644
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I know, I remember which one you were talking about.

1645
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know why I've we missed that.

1646
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just so funny. It's just so funny

1647
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:21.199
<v Speaker 3>that the first hour of that movie.

1648
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>There was also some articles about him at the very

1649
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:27.079
<v Speaker 1>last minute walking off a movie or something.

1650
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he walked out of a.

1651
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of these actors.

1652
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:34.319
<v Speaker 3>The director that made May December, which was my number

1653
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:36.279
<v Speaker 3>one movie last year, he walked out of his new

1654
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.720
<v Speaker 3>movie and that everyone's definitely disappointed with that.

1655
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Did they ever say, why wasn't something like homo?

1656
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>No?

1657
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:46.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that. They I heard that mentioned.

1658
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's like a rumor as opposed

1659
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:50.039
<v Speaker 3>to the truth. He gave an interview about it. I

1660
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 3>don't remember what he said, but I think it's about

1661
01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:54.880
<v Speaker 3>creative difference as regarding the character. I think that's what

1662
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:56.760
<v Speaker 3>it was. And he just walked out though he just walked.

1663
01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Out like that my contract. I don't care.

1664
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they halted production and everything. There's another actor

1665
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:05.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe seen Rebel.

1666
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Ridge Andrew Garfield, who isn't it?

1667
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, yeah, I know what you're thinking of. You're

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01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:19.880
<v Speaker 3>thinking of something Rich the War movie with Mel Gibson,

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01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:27.520
<v Speaker 3>not with sorry he directed Schrich. Yes, that was that

1670
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.039
<v Speaker 3>was the long time ago, all right, So this revel

1671
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:31.680
<v Speaker 3>riches from this year. It's a Netflix movie. Great, great

1672
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.760
<v Speaker 3>fucking movie. I love that movie. Rebel Rich is amazing.

1673
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 3>But the lead actor of the black guy in that

1674
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.159
<v Speaker 3>character that was supposed to be played by who's the

1675
01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Star Wars guy? Again? The Star Wars guy is the

1676
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:46.920
<v Speaker 3>only black guy in Star Wars. I know it was

1677
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.119
<v Speaker 3>not the only Atlanta Courisians black too, but I mean

1678
01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the from the new era.

1679
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I forgot his name, fuck Kai, I forgot his name.

1680
01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:59.039
<v Speaker 3>No, his name is Finn or Finn Finn, but I

1681
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>forgot his actors. Well whatever, that guy he was supposed

1682
01:26:03.359 --> 01:26:05.720
<v Speaker 3>to be the lead actor in Rebel Ridge and he

1683
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 3>just walked out and people like calling him and he's

1684
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>just like out of the country, just left that production,

1685
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:13.479
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere, and they contacted this guy, nailed it.

1686
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.319
<v Speaker 3>He should have stayed for that movie. That movie was great.

1687
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow, But did they ever find out what happened to Fenn?

1688
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>No?

1689
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not like people lost him, but he

1690
01:26:21.399 --> 01:26:21.840
<v Speaker 3>just left.

1691
01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why would you do that? Like a walking which

1692
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>is all.

1693
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Fucking crazy, like what I don't know crazy. Well, I

1694
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:31.560
<v Speaker 3>don't know. He's done Star Wars. I don't think he

1695
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 3>needs hit I guess, but.

1696
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Wish I had that problem. Yeah, But getting back to

1697
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:37.479
<v Speaker 1>the route.

1698
01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:41.800
<v Speaker 3>To mention that jacking, Vange also doesn't need money. He

1699
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:42.640
<v Speaker 3>doesn't need that money.

1700
01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>No.

1701
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, his name alone gets people to the theater.

1702
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.479
<v Speaker 3>So there's only like five actors that can.

1703
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Do that, unless what was a bad one, Napoleon.

1704
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was, but he still got people to that

1705
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:54.680
<v Speaker 3>not as much.

1706
01:26:54.840 --> 01:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that was the draw.

1707
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and really, Scott, I guess, but that movie sucked, true.

1708
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.479
<v Speaker 1>That's what you said. Yeah, I'm like, but the root

1709
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was we should probably still do something like do the

1710
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>little short movie. Oh yes, that's how we started talking

1711
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>about all these Yeah, a little do a little something,

1712
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:19.479
<v Speaker 1>because you know, once we watched Cereal Milk, Cereal Milk

1713
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and Cereal. Once we watched that, we started looking at

1714
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>all these other little shorts that were on YouTube. There's

1715
01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions of them. Probably, yeah, there were. Some

1716
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of them are really good, some of them are mediocre,

1717
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and some were like, we could do that, you know,

1718
01:27:32.319 --> 01:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>we could. We could do something like that, Yeah, and

1719
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>just throw it up there see what happens, man, You

1720
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>never know? Yeah, how think that would be dope? It

1721
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>would be really fun.

1722
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:45.399
<v Speaker 3>And the audience when I did short films, when when

1723
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I had hope and gave the ship.

1724
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:52.319
<v Speaker 1>When I still had a spring in my step, a glint.

1725
01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:55.920
<v Speaker 3>In my eye and a lie, we used to do

1726
01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:58.199
<v Speaker 3>cast and calls. I forgot the websites. I don't I

1727
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.279
<v Speaker 3>don't know if they're around anymore. That's how long ago was.

1728
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:05.359
<v Speaker 3>But the cast and calls were like literally actors wanting

1729
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to start, but also like you know, the pay was

1730
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:09.319
<v Speaker 3>the food, like we just pay you in pizza like

1731
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:12.199
<v Speaker 3>that's it, you know, that's that's how it is to start.

1732
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:13.680
<v Speaker 3>There is no pay.

1733
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>How do we do it? Man? What's the first step?

1734
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Write something right? Like a script?

1735
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No, know what the fuck we want to do?

1736
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Get the equipment?

1737
01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you have cameras like that or would you? So?

1738
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:34.439
<v Speaker 3>I Luke has two cameras, h yeah, for what? He

1739
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:35.760
<v Speaker 3>has no fucking family?

1740
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean he doesn't. What does he do with them?

1741
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.319
<v Speaker 3>Nothing? He takes pictures on Japan and ship like that,

1742
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:44.399
<v Speaker 3>but nothing. But they're they're good DSLR. No, they work

1743
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>for video too, they're good DSLRs. They work for both ways.

1744
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that I think it was the back of your

1745
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>chair that time. Okay, I think it was because it

1746
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>goes out like this.

1747
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think, don't fuck with me.

1748
01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like a body shape the back. If you look

1749
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:01.199
<v Speaker 1>at the back the chair, it's like a body.

1750
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Shape, I believe.

1751
01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>So I think that you turn the right way and

1752
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it was.

1753
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he let me borrow one of them. For

1754
01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>a few months ago. I had had a photo shoot

1755
01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:16.399
<v Speaker 3>for money that I made, but it was one done

1756
01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>and uh, I still have it. He's like, you can

1757
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>just use it for whatever. He doesn't need to cameras.

1758
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even need one, you know. And yeah, so yeah,

1759
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>and we have our phones, so.

1760
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.039
<v Speaker 1>We don't need those big fucking things like this. So

1761
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>those big not kimbals.

1762
01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Like Gimble will be cool, but we don't need them. No, really,

1763
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:40.600
<v Speaker 3>we need a steady camshot. We need a skateboard. We

1764
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.119
<v Speaker 3>do it right, skateboard and carpet won't make noise. It's great.

1765
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's the DIY way of doing it.

1766
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:50.600
<v Speaker 3>You can also make fake railings. There's plenty of on

1767
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>YouTube back then when YouTube was newer. I seen videos

1768
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 3>that we've studied to make tracks with tubes and stuff

1769
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:02.720
<v Speaker 3>that we could get at home depot for like nothing,

1770
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:06.399
<v Speaker 3>and to make tracks. So we can make a shot

1771
01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:10.079
<v Speaker 3>though we call it. Got them so bad with the lingo? Now, yeah,

1772
01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.279
<v Speaker 3>a tracking shot, yeah.

1773
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>We should man.

1774
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the second will be equipment, and more important

1775
01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>than a camera is sound because these are good mics, No,

1776
01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:24.520
<v Speaker 3>are not good enough?

1777
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1778
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, they're great. But they're they're not for the

1779
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>job for what we need. We need the mics to

1780
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:33.479
<v Speaker 3>be away from we can't show the mic on camera. No,

1781
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:38.039
<v Speaker 3>And as you're doing a show a movie about podcasting, we.

1782
01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Could be podcasters. Well, wouldn't we just take these polls.

1783
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>And like, yeah, the boom, that's like the boom mic. Yeah.

1784
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Would we have to buy new mics or no?

1785
01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>But we'd have to you know, probably guess some stuff.

1786
01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:53.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know right now. This is off the top

1787
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of my head. I'm not a sound guy at all,

1788
01:30:56.600 --> 01:31:01.199
<v Speaker 3>but in one of the big rules of not Hollywood,

1789
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>but like all movies, is that the picture could be

1790
01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>could be shit, and it could be considered artistic. The

1791
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:11.840
<v Speaker 3>sound has to be perfect or it's always considered as shit.

1792
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, That makes sense.

1793
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:16.359
<v Speaker 3>People will not forget. People don't think about the sound

1794
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:17.239
<v Speaker 3>unless it's bad.

1795
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, it makes sense.

1796
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Sound is number one, or at the very least as important.

1797
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:24.760
<v Speaker 3>That's picture.

1798
01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to do it. I think it would be great.

1799
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be so much fun because not

1800
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.399
<v Speaker 1>we could just go back to the old way. But

1801
01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I just figured riff off.

1802
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Of you know that in the past. I'm not gonna

1803
01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:37.279
<v Speaker 3>do this. I don't think I will just interrupt.

1804
01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You just completely derailed the whole thing.

1805
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I remember good because I've done any made time, and

1806
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>it's okay, so all right, all right, ready for the countome.

1807
01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm gummy like so I keep like

1808
01:31:57.399 --> 01:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>drinking water like rinse in my mouth.

1809
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Hum, I don't know. I feel fine. The stoo is

1810
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.039
<v Speaker 3>in five four three two