Speaker 1: I made season pay Sunny Sun on Ihaddasion's night. What's
up everybody? Hey? Happy fourth? Today's the fourth of July?
Oh shit? Yeah? Is it? Oh Friday? Yeah, Friday. Yes,
it is the fourth of July. What do you do?
Speaker 2: Everybody's listening maybe in the morning. You know it's not
fireworks yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What else are you doing? Who goes and watches
fireworks anymore?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, I guess kids do the kids?
Speaker 2: Yes, people who have little kids. I was literally just
talking to my friend about this this morning, and we
were trying to remember because I'm gonna come home, so
we're going to Julie's.
Speaker 3: House, a Julie's own of our I talked about that
on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But it's hurt. Julie's birthday, Julie Cason's birthday is July fourth,
uh huh, and then like fifth. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I have another friend who's birthday, close friend whose
birthday is July six, so that's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: That's fun And Robbin's is July seventeenth.
Speaker 2: Oh, Robin, I know, but I feel like I can't
be gone for that long cause of Penelope. But yes,
and usually I use the excuse of fireworks right, But
now she's deaf, so I don't know if it would
matter that much anyway, but we just can't leave her
alone for two.
Speaker 1: Two hours at night. I know I have the same problem.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't spoiler alert, it's I Still it's still
Tuesday for us as we record this, So I don't
know what Phil if he's gonna have a surgery or not.
But I'm supposed to go. My friend, our friend, Glenn,
and his wife just moved into a house in like
Santa Rosa, which is like a fifty minute drive.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Wait, Santa Rosa is like northern California. Then that's what
I was telling don. She was telling me it's Santa Rosa. No,
it's like more like north of San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not. It's more Park that's where we live.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, just about the house there sounds kept right,
So I know I know because.
Speaker 1: She got she was.
Speaker 3: I was talking to her about it this morning. I'm like,
it's not Santa Rosa, but maybe it's something different.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Santa something else. I don't know. I don't know.
We're talking about data.
Speaker 3: No, it's not Santa Clarita. She lives in Santa anyway,
it was on first.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel though about going to visit my
brother Santa Clarita.
Speaker 1: That just always sounds so well my night journey.
Speaker 3: I know, my family lived out there for so long,
like my brother and Wendy lived out there for years,
so I used to Santa Clarita. But no, no, anyway,
So we're gonna be so Don's got to come to me,
and then Suzanne and her boyfriend are driving and they
want us all to drive together. So then, long story short,
I'm supposed to be gone all day on the fourth
and Natalia's gone with her friends.
Speaker 1: Sonny's gonna be with his friends.
Speaker 3: But Sonny was saying, even if Phil doesn't have doesn't
have surgery, I don't want to leave Phil all day alone.
So he said, I'm going to be home most of
the daytime, but then I'll be leaving in the evening,
but then I'll be coming home in the evening because
it's a daytime, so it works out. But if he
has a surgery, then I don't think I'm going to
be able to go. I don't unless Sunny and I
guess Sonny can stay with him. But for the fourth
of July. Oh, Julie Kayson's calling. She knew we were
talking about her. I just held up my phone to
show that.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. She her ears are burning. You sha't answer.
Stop trash talking, my brainy bitch. Now he just outed
her to everybody that she's having a party. Is she
always have before?
Speaker 2: I feel like she's no, no, no, no, no no.
She doesn't have a lot of parties. She's like us.
She doesn't like to make a big deal about her birthday.
In fact, one year, I didn't get invited to this one.
She had a party on her birthday.
Speaker 1: But she did get an invited.
Speaker 2: I didn't get invited. It was like a different group
of her friends.
Speaker 1: Oh I know.
Speaker 2: Me and my other friend were like huh, but she
was like, yeah, I'm not even calling it a birthday party.
Speaker 1: It's just getting together for the fourth But it's like,
but everybody knows that's your birth so right.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can really pull that off,
but okay, anyway, go on, Phil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, I don't know to figure it out,
but yeah, we're supposed to go to his house, you know,
in the daytime.
Speaker 2: And Phil, you can't bring Phil is the problem too,
because Phil's like bringing a bear with you.
Speaker 1: Well, he has a guy.
Speaker 3: I know, he has a golden retriever and he would
love to have Phil come. And he's got a big
yard and stuff. Yeah, and Phil and his walker would
have a great time together.
Speaker 1: There are a lot alike a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh, so bring Phil it Phil's if he's if he's
feeling enough surgery. But I think we're all My point
is is that because Suzanne and her boyfriend are driving
out there, they we all want to go together.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: So some Kakamini plan is going to be us getting
together off the freeway somewhere. Oh and then we're all
going in one car. I guess. So no, not much
room for Phil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just have to make sure that Sunny
doesn't let Phil get into anything, like if he's good
about that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, Yeah, it's her you get to worry about, right, Yeah,
her friend with the chicken bone on the floor that
was a patron right right, right right? But yeah, yes, so,
I don't know, we'll figure it out. Maybe I will
bring Phil. I don't know, Maybe I'll just drive and
bring them.
Speaker 2: Then you can't drink now, I know, but it's an
all day thing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Dependent I'm like worried about everyone else's But what if
you want to drink? Yeah, I know you gonna have fun.
You can't.
Speaker 2: You know you you can't have fun without drinking. I
mean it is, it's gonna be a long day aggressive. Yeah, Cette,
you know how you are when you're sober.
Speaker 1: It's not mad, but it's not fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, Phil will be fine at home yes
with Sonny in and out right, and then you'll have
an excuse to leave. Yeah yeah, or make Sonny have
friends come over. Yeah, I don't know, we'll see. Sanny
and Italian went on a walk yesterday, a little hike together.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was like what your what? Yeah, She's like, we're
going on a hike together. Like, how come I wasn't invited,
but I was dealing with Phil, uh huh suddenly, But
I thought that was cute, really cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was watching.
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of episodes of a show with
Xander and it was really fun. Oh, we watched Pop
Star Academy. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 1: It's a It was a making of the of a
new K pop group. Okay, so it's the group is
called Cat's Eye. This is like the whole This is
a lot of episodes of a reality show where they're
training all these kids. They're making a global pop group, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like the Pussycat Dolls, right, but they're but in
the style of K pop. Okay, they're dancing and yeah.
It was really funny because Xander would not give me
spoilers because you know me, I'm just like, well, who wins?
Speaker 1: Who makes it? He's like, mom, stop, you have to
watch or I could just google the group which is
in existence, right right? What's it on?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Netflix? Oh? Okay, No, a lot of stuff on Netflix,
things stuff. Yeah, what did I just watch? I watched
some stuff.
Speaker 3: I feel like, Oh, well, I was watching the Dallas
Cowboy Cheerleaders.
Speaker 1: Me too. I got into it that too. Did you
finish it? I didn't finish it.
Speaker 2: But because here's the problem. Last time, they just did
it differently this time. So last time, the whole thing
was about you get invested and then who's going to
make it on the team.
Speaker 1: This time they're like they shoot their wad.
Speaker 2: By episode three, we already know who may and then
they're like, now we're going to do eight episodes about
their fucking contract negotiations?
Speaker 1: Is that what happens basically? Yeah, I mean I want
to say, episode by episode five, you you know who's
on the team? Yeah, they said who's on the team.
Speaker 2: Oh, and then the people cry that aren't on the team,
and you're like, well, that should be the end. But
then they're like arguing about their contract.
Speaker 3: But that's excuse me, that's ridiculous because that was the
best part of last season.
Speaker 1: I was watching them, you know, get.
Speaker 3: Cut from the team or whatever, or like, you know,
practicing and practicing and all the hard work and all that.
That's weird, and then they go into contract negotiations.
Speaker 1: So the best part. How far into it are you?
I think I'm like episode four.
Speaker 2: Okay, so are you at the part where they're well
you might not be here yet, but I think this
is so interesting. And I won't tell you exactly what happens,
but you know, there's the daughter of one of the choreographers. Yes,
and you know how they're always.
Speaker 1: Like talk oh yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So okay, so they talked about the fact that the
year before, I want to say, she had tried out
and they did she didn't make it right. And the
one woman who's there's two main women, but there's one
main man. The kind of reddish hair woman. She's just
such a bit. She's so cold, you know, and she's
like she always self aggrandizes, you know. She's just like, well,
I have a job to do, like at the end
of the day, like, this is my job.
Speaker 1: I have to make the best team. So the year.
Speaker 2: Before, she told the girl she's not on the team,
and then they were asking her. Okay, So I had
said to John, I think I saw this episode. I
said to John, like this has got to be like
just reality show, like this is produced right.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I mean, yeah, it would seem like it.
Speaker 2: I was like, there going to try to make it
like I go the woman the choreographers in on it
right right, Well, no, because then they do this whole
segment I think on the episode that you watched where
they talked about how shitty it went the year before
when they didn't let this girl on the team, and did.
Speaker 1: You see this friend.
Speaker 2: The choreographer's like, yeah, like I didn't speak to anybody.
She's like that's her daughter, and she was like I
would go in to work I would just I would, yes, no,
like my job, but I did not talk to anybody
for months and months and months.
Speaker 1: It's like, right, just and then just then you just
let the girl on the team. I know it couldn't be.
Speaker 3: But then the girl the brunette. Yeah, the head cheerleading.
Speaker 1: Names like Dayton or something. Oh wait, which one you.
Speaker 3: Know, there's the blonde lady and there's brunette or rede
whatever she is.
Speaker 1: What's her name? Her name is? I don't know get
what their names are, but anyway.
Speaker 3: She was saying, yes, she was saying I think I
thought it was fine, like she was professional, right, yeah,
and then cut to the mom of the cheerleader they
got cut was like, oh yeah, I didn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what it's like.
Speaker 2: I was so miserable, right, And then they were like,
I mean, of course you're gonna be sad, like you're
a mama bear for like that's your kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, she got over it. She did
really well about it. And then they go to her
and she's like, fuck all all, y'all, I eat my
shit in assholes, I fucking put in this blood sweat
and tears for this team and that's the thanks. I
you're gonna not take my daughter? I know, that's so funny,
really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So then the whole thing this season is like she's
trying out again. It's like are they gonna let her
on the team this time, right? Or are they gonna
just go like no, yeah, I know again say no.
Speaker 3: That's got to be so tough. If you haven't got
that part, I haven't gotten to that part. You know
who was on the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders is Jasmine from
the val Did you know that?
Speaker 1: Yes? I did know that.
Speaker 3: And she was on the TV show auditioning. And you
know what else I find funny? They show on the
Dallas Cut. They showed in this new season the judges
that come in the beginning and they judge the whole
classical act or whatever that they do. One of the
judges is the bachelorette that was married to the cute
One of the bachelorettes used to be a Dallas Cowboy
cheerleader and she she was like a bachelorette like from
back in early days of Bachelorette?
Speaker 1: Was it Andy? Now? Is that her name Andy?
Speaker 3: And she know that was a lawyer the guy that
she married. He I think it's Melissa Ryecroft. Oh yeah yet, yeah, yeah,
yeah her. Yes, So she's one of the judges. You
see her, but they don't introduce her. They're like introducing
this judge from you know that that makes the boots
and this guy that does the hair and makeup at
the salot.
Speaker 1: And then they don't even bring her up. They don't
mention her.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you see her there, You see her a
little bit on camera, but they don't show a close
up of her. They never they don't bring her up.
And she's very involved in that organization. That's weird. That
is really weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what else have you been watching?
Speaker 2: Oh I've been Okay, have you been listening to this podcast?
I have a new podcast for you, and it's called Elizabeth. No,
so it's Elizabeth, but it's it's another like Scamanda.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's so it's E and then lies like L I
E S Elizabeth. Okay, Hey, so it's really good and
it's about another one of these fucking crazy Sorry I've
been dropping a lot of f bombs today.
Speaker 1: Sorry to our sponsors. Just kidding. I'm not really that sorry.
Speaker 2: So it's it's about a woman who is fake fakes cancer.
She's just she sounds definitely like borderline personality but really
like crazy, pathological liar.
Speaker 1: They call her the cupcakes.
Speaker 2: Mom because I guess she made some video about making cupcakes.
She where she basically accuses her ex husband of abuse
and she has all these gofundmes and blah blah blah,
and it turns.
Speaker 1: Out it's just all bullshit. But you know, from the
beginning of the it's obviously it's called Elizabeth, but it's
a good one.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'm going to say that's not good
about it is that so they read, they have dramatic
reliance of all the texts, and the girl that reads
that's being Elizabeth is really good.
Speaker 1: But the guy that they.
Speaker 2: They either it's the woman's the podcast host friend, I
don't know, but it's a guy and he's he's reading
the guy part the ex husband.
Speaker 1: He's so bad.
Speaker 2: Not only is he just like a stilted like he
just sounds like he's reading. He doesn't act it out, yes,
but also he like kind of fumbles with his words
a little bit. So it's like it's probably are like, hey, oh,
are you going to the store today? I'm really mad
right now that you are seem like you're lying to me.
Speaker 1: And once you hear it that way, you can hear yes.
Speaker 2: So then every time he's reading, I'm like, oh, come on,
you couldn't do another take of that.
Speaker 1: That was your best take. Maybe the girl is really
like performing the shit out of it. Like she sounds good,
it sounds like you believe her. You You're like, wait,
maybe that's the real Maybe that's something reporting like she's
into it, and then the guy's just like, hey, how
are you what are you doing? I mean probably a
I would have probably done a better job. I really
think it would have. Yeah, it's because with this all
this diddy stuff. Uh. They there's always like.
Speaker 3: Some news channel or somebody there where they're like they're
doing the transcripts by this read by an actor or whatever.
Sometimes they go way above and beyond, like, you know,
like he dangled me on crava the balcony. I thought
it was gonna die. You're like, like, I calm down,
you know, like you're just a voiceover actress. You're just
reading the transcript, you know, the oof you know, like
Mark Agnifical, like the other lawyers like sounding like a
regular lawyer like, and then the actress that's playing the
girl in the stand is like, you know, like you
hit a gun on me my mom k like like, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, relax, But it's so funny. What do you
think is gonna I mean, that's that's the jury's got that.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what do I think is gonna happen? Yeah,
I don't know. I'm a little worried because yesterday got
a note from the jury that's like your twenty six
is like seems like a like we can't control them,
or like.
Speaker 1: They're basically saying like they're not.
Speaker 3: This guy's unreasonable and he doesn't want to follow the
juried instructions.
Speaker 2: You know, it's bad when the rest of them are
like ending a note about one of them.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, remember I think I told you. I know
I told you this. Okay.
Speaker 2: Remember when years ago TV network TV shows went through
a phase where they were doing a lot of like
getting to see a jury in action. Yeah, there was
one show and it was out of San Diego. I
want to say, because there was the lawyer in San Diego.
It was like you really thought it was like dateline,
but like you're really following a case like a reality show.
Speaker 1: Really, when was this? When was it? Oh my god,
it was many. I want to say it was like
fifteen years ago. Okay, that sounds like right at my thoughts.
Speaker 2: They I loved those shows, but I remember one of
them was, I want to say, called like the Jury
and they showed you a real footage of juries going anyway.
Speaker 1: One of them. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was like the whole season was just
of this one seeing a case from beginning to end,
seeing the case and then seeing.
Speaker 1: The jury deliberate.
Speaker 2: One of the jurors was like just seem to want
to be on TV and they were just being a
naysayer to be a naysayer, and it was horrible. So
they were hanging the jury because they just and and
you would see the people trying to reason with the
person and they're like, yeah, but you're but look at
the evidence, but like what's your actual reason?
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, I don't have to say, like it.
Speaker 3: Was crazy, it's crazy. What if you get somebody like that?
Speaker 2: Well, part of it though, was they they sort of
chalked it up to this person wants to stand out
on TV, which is why they never did another show
like that.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I do feel like oftentimes
there are jurors like that that are just like weirdos, right,
that are just basically like we do. I mean, it
could be that person is like, you know, I think
he's innocent, and everybody like I don't give a shit
what the jury instructions are.
Speaker 1: I think he's innocent, or it could be the other
way around.
Speaker 2: We don't know, just a weirdo that isn't it's not
even about the case. It's like they have a weird personality,
and like, how do you deal with that?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I don't know, you complain.
Speaker 3: Yeah that after a couple hours of being in the
deliberation back up jurors though, that's why you write. But
I think it's going to take from what I've seen,
like commentary, it would have to take a lot for
that judge to remove or replace that juror because of
the you know, the the high risk of you know, appeals,
or it could.
Speaker 2: Affect something, you know, right, jury misconduct, miss Cotton or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mist could affect a mistrial. Stuff like that. So
they also said something like they saw this morning. They
were talking about if they're if the jury's if the
jurors don't uh, if they come back pretty quickly like
they're hung, that the judge has a lot of different
avenues to get them to get back to the table
or what are you hung on? And blah blah blah,
and like massage them to continue to not be hung,
especially in a federal case, because they say, like ninety
three percent of federal cases get convictions, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm hoping he gets convicted, and
hope he does.
Speaker 3: He's gotta get convicted of something, right, something, But you know,
I from what I'm hearing, it's like the least of
them are like they could be fifteen years which ends
up being like eight years, you know, or something like
that on two counts of what I don't know, but yeah,
I don't know. And then they say it only takes
one juror to have that reasonable doubt and that's then
he that's it? So is it that one wild juror?
Like that's what I worry about. Yeah, So I don't know.
Day two and then like they have always like they
say too that going into a holiday weekend, so there's
no court on Thursday or Friday that the jury's is
going to want to, you know, come and on.
Speaker 1: The third, Oh, so the jurors can go away on vacation.
Speaker 3: There's no it's the court. The court's closed on the third.
But the judge said he would send in a skeleton
crew to take care of the jury if they wanted
to come in and deliberate on the if they needed
that Thursday.
Speaker 1: But then you know they're.
Speaker 3: Going into yeah, the fourth of July, and do they
want to are they gonna want to wrap it up
and be done before and not have to come back
on the Monday after a holiday like that? Like I
don't know, So I don't I don't know what's gonna happen.
I feel like New Yorkers are smart and tough and
can see you know, but did you hear the defense's
closing arguments? Like he was like talking about, you know, say,
basically like a bill Mark kind of thing, like you know,
like like Cassie was basically saying stuff like or he
was saying things like uh uh, you know, it's all
it's it was very mutual and it's the government coming
into his bedroom too, you know, they don't like his
they couldn't get him on other things, so they came
into his bedroom and attacked his lifestyle. These are these
are you know, people that are there are all these
women are grown adults making their own decisions. They could
leave whenever they want, Like what happened in the testimony
from the psychiatrist that was talking about there's a thing called,
you know, trauma bonding.
Speaker 1: You know, like hello.
Speaker 3: But like he was just like, yeah, this is all
just they're coming into his bedroom and they can come
into your bedroom. You know, they don't like what you're doing,
They're gonna come into your bedroom. It's like, no, dude,
there was a lot more to it, you know, I
mean he was kind of like, uh, there's a few Yes,
there was a few things too like that.
Speaker 1: He said. They were kind of shocking.
Speaker 3: And then they said one of the reporters said that
there's an overflow room at the courthouse for the other
reporters and the people that are not in. You know,
there's the people that are in that get into the courtroom,
but then they have like three other rooms that are
overflow rooms for people. And one of the rooms erupted
an applause after the defense is closing. Yeah wow, yeah, scary,
so gross. And then did you hear the Colburger cases
Brian Colberger, Yeah, pled pled took the took the guilty
plea he did as of yesterday, no trial, Oh wow.
And the families are pissed. Why they want they were
They were taken by surprise from what they said. They
didn't think a plea deal was on the day. They
didn't want him to have a plea deal. They wanted
him to go to trial. They wanted him to get
the death penalty. Oh is what they wanted.
Speaker 2: I wonder what he pled to he pled guilty? I
mean to what I wonder what the deal was. I
mean I wonder if it was like life without.
Speaker 3: Parole or yes he gets he he gets life without
parole and no appeals.
Speaker 2: Oh well that's good. Yes, well I think I would
Let me talk to these parents.
Speaker 1: Yes there's one.
Speaker 3: I think the Ethans, the boys' parents are like fine
with it, but the other three parents are on the
same page. They were like on the Today Show or
whatever talking about that. They were pissed. They didn't they
felt like it was the coward way out. They didn't
they didn't even consult they I from what I understand
that it was a surprise. They didn't know that was coming.
They were two months away from going to trial. And yeah,
I look, I would want whatever the parents want if
the because I would think, like, good, put him away
for the rest of his life. I don't have to
sit through a trial and listen to it all over
like who wants to know all that stuff you know,
and getting it out in the public and stuff of
how my child died. But it I'm not in their
positions if that's what they want, Like, I don't know,
but it seems to me they should have had better
communication with the parents and they should have told the
parents that they were working on that a plea deal.
Speaker 2: I mean from all listen, I have been in this
business for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: By that I mean watching Dateline, yeah, and listening to
the Dateline. Yes, And I feel like that happens a lot. Okay,
a lot of the stories are the families are the
lost to know. I know, I think they're upset, and
especially when they offer them please. The worst is when
they offer them please, like for somebody who murdered somebody
and they're like, well, it was going to be a
hard case.
Speaker 1: So he, you know, is getting eight years, right, They're like,
what right?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because they could have been stuff like you
know scenario you don't know. I mean, it didn't look
it looked really bad for him, didn't look like he
was going to get off, but you know, yeah, you
never know, it could have gone a lot of different ways.
At least now you know he's in a six by
nine for the rest of his life. You know, I
think twenty three hours a day in the cell and
no chance of appeal. And that's it.
Speaker 1: It's hard because our system.
Speaker 2: Is like, is it punitive or is it you know,
keep the safety of is it putting a person away
so they can't recommit crimes or is it just a
punishment and once they've because some people, I think there's
something very wrong with them and they are going to
you know, there's a difference between like a serial killer
that if they get off or if they get a
lower sentence, they will one hundred percent go do it
again because there's something wrong with their mentality. Yes, you know,
they're not going to be like, oh my gosh, I'm
so glad that this happened, because like now I kind
of see like that, oh, killing like people is wrong.
I guess I just didn't know the affected people like
I totally get it, and that is like I'm changed,
Like I Jesus is in my life now. This is
like standing on my shoulder and telling me, like, n
I know you kind of want to kill.
Speaker 1: Somebody, but don't. Right, Yeah, that's not a thing. Like,
that's not a thing.
Speaker 2: So either if somebody is a serial killer or has
that mentality, that person needs to be kept away from
the public for the rest of their life. Now, if
it's a crime of passion, if it's something if it's
the Menanda's brothers and they killed their parents, but there's
extenuating circumstances, then it's punitive, right, and it should be like, well,
you have to have there has to be a consequence
to this decision that you made. But we also don't
think that you're going to go start killing people on
the street.
Speaker 3: I think with Brian Kolberger, I think that this guy
needs to be put away for the rest of us,
for the.
Speaker 1: Rest of his life.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's what I'm saying, is I'm agreeing
that if the if the plet like it, otherwise we're
looking to punish, and we go, well, we want him
to get the death penalty, we want him to.
Speaker 1: Be really scared.
Speaker 2: But if the goal is to keep this guy from
murdering other people.
Speaker 3: Without a chance of parole, right right, Yeah, you and
I are in agreement, Yeah we are.
Speaker 1: Why don't we work for the legal systems. I don't know.
I don't know if there is a job that we
could do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if somebody out there is, like needs
are consulting.
Speaker 1: We have so many consulting firms. We could be a
good profiler, We really could.
Speaker 3: I feel like we would know, like this guy's shifty.
Speaker 2: Something about him like that, I don't like something about him, sus.
Speaker 1: I didn't like. Yes, did I or tell you that?
Speaker 3: I thought, Uh, you know Dicky Barrett from The Boss Tones,
the singer of the Boss says yes, he was hanging
out with like Adam and Jimmy back in the day,
and and I didn't know him, and I met him
only a few times. I was like, I don't there's
something about this guy. He doesn't like women. He doesn't
even make eye contact with me, Like I say, h,
I donim all the time. He doesn't even look at
me just goes, hey, he always just looks at Adam
and talks to Adam, doesn't look at me, like.
Speaker 1: And then I get to know him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he's the sweetest, nicest guy in the face.
Speaker 3: That was the one person I was wrong about. I
feel like I'm pretty good with everybody. I was gonna say,
your statistic, but I'm pretty good. Yes, but I will
admit when I fail. And that was a big fail,
epic fail. Yeah, it's the kid say. If we look
him up though, and we find out he did commit
a crime, then.
Speaker 1: Well then I'm right again. Yeah, but still yab it.
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You would never know, you.
Speaker 3: Would never not a lot of people are talking about
Hero bread. I hear about it a lot.
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Speaker 1: O dot co do it today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna tell you something else. Oh, so
try I've been trying to watch the Titan doc.
Speaker 1: Yes, which the.
Speaker 2: Little you used that there were two of them.
Speaker 1: Ones on Max, No one's on Netflix, ones on Hulu.
Oh on'es on Hulu. The better one is on Hulu.
Speaker 2: But then, okay, but the Netflix one is really about
the personalities as well, are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You have it correct? Yes? Is which yes? I did?
Speaker 2: Okay, then John and I were watching the wrong one.
So here's the thing. The Netflix one is also very
much about his bad personality. Yeah, but I am a
darted bear. Every time I watch it. It's an hour
and fifty minutes. We've tried two or three times to
get through it. John finishes it and I'm like, wait,
what happened to like a podcast?
Speaker 1: No, it's totally fine. I can hear it. I already
know what everybody looks like.
Speaker 3: As you're gazing at the inside of your eyelids.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Gonna lay here and close my eyes. John's like, why
are you taking your glasses off? Like, because I'm I'm
just totally listening. And then the next day he's like,
you did not you were You lasted two minutes and
then you were asleep.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I know I do that too. Sometimes I'm
just gonna listen to it like a podcast, and then
I don't know where I left off the next.
Speaker 1: Day, right yeah.
Speaker 3: No, the well, because I think it's because you're watching
the Netflix one. Because the Netflix one goes too much
into the carbon uh the carbon material that they're using,
and this is what they might.
Speaker 1: Go to the Hulu one. Okay, it's it's better.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's interesting because I was spending too much
time researching. I'm like, because I looked at it and
I'm like, this seems like the right one. I was like,
but Lynette says that one of them is better than
the other one.
Speaker 1: So then but.
Speaker 2: Then John's like, but this one is all about the
guy Dick he is They.
Speaker 3: Both are, because you can't tell the story without talking
about the guy.
Speaker 2: One of them was going to be all like kind
of scientific, Yeah, no, you want an education. That's the
Netflix It kind of is, yes, that's why that's the
Netflix one. The Hulu one is like, they talk to
people that worked at the company. They talk to a
girl that saved up all her money to go on
one of those down and to see the Titanic. They
talked to this reporter that did Discovery Channel. He did
on on the thing and then scrapped it and said
this would be like you see and then you see
the footage of him like getting into the submarine and
going like this doesn't seem like why is it making
all these net loud snapping noises and shi yes.
Speaker 1: Because you can't. Again, it's a lot of the same
because it's the same story.
Speaker 3: But the Hulu one is like, again, it's that Discovery
because the Discovery Channel investigator you see like the the
footage of him because he's gonna air it and he's
talking to him, but then he's given him what he's
in his head, he's thinking this doesn't seem safe, you know,
and they're as they're locking him and bolting them in. Right.
So it is a lot of the same. But the
Hulu is I folt much better.
Speaker 1: Okay because on the Netflix when they have the Scottish guy,
is he on both who's like really cool, He's like, yes,
he's the one who's really starting to have doubts. Yes,
And then they kind of ice him out because he's like, hey, hey, uh,
I don't think there was uh they were making.
Speaker 2: A lot of noises and whatever. And then he's like
and then suddenly like nobody's looking at me, like and
he kind of iced out of the whole process.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, I think he's in it at a
little bit. But then there's other people that they interview, okay,
like a girl that worked there.
Speaker 1: And you know, and they weren't listening.
Speaker 3: She was like horrified and she was trying to tell
them like this is not somebody's gonna get killed, and
they just like they ran her out, like they got
rid of her.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't look at her and that was that.
Speaker 3: They just it was so yeah, yeah, it's it's good.
I mean, yeah, the Hulu one is better. It's an
interesting story.
Speaker 2: But oh and then I watched a lot of our
listeners recommended the Jane Mansfield documentary done by Mariska Hargate,
who was my hall pass with like years ago when
she was like quite lesbian looking with the like really
short hair when she was playing Olivia Benson but old,
they like tough Olivia Benson before she softened up a
little and grew hair out.
Speaker 1: I like, he's cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And anyway, but her story is that Jane Mansfield
is her.
Speaker 1: Mom, right, and they knew that her mom.
Speaker 2: Was in a car accident when Mariska was only I
want to say two or three or four years old,
maybe maybe she was three, so she doesn't really remember
her mom, and then she was raised by her dad.
But it's a little twisty, really worry is kind of twisty.
So she has but it's basically like she was nobody
in the family really talks that much about the mom,
and you know, but she was raised having this also,
I feel like Mariska.
Speaker 1: Did not love that her mom was kind.
Speaker 2: Of a bombsh of Marilyn Monroe, like.
Speaker 1: Kind of talked in a baby bood.
Speaker 2: I kind of did the Marilyn voice, and it pissed
off Mariska.
Speaker 1: I was like, why was she doing that? Like she was.
Speaker 2: It turns out Jane Mansfield is actually really intelligent and
played a lot of instruments, really a lot of languages,
but like really wanted to be famous, and they wanted
her to be like Marilyn Monroe because that was, you know,
it was popular at the time, and it kind of
maybe that's why Mariska Hargeta went sort of the other way, Yeah,
and became like a little bit butch, which was good
for me. But anyway, Wow, the story has some twists.
Speaker 1: Yep, because they're emotional.
Speaker 3: I saw the trailer for it and it looked good
and it did say like she had a secret that
she never spoken about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so, yeah, I would like to watch it.
You should watch it. It's good, it's done. Max.
Speaker 3: It's onne hbox Max. Yeah, Max from Netflix? No, maybe
maybe it is Netflix.
Speaker 1: Hmm. There's something I watched on Netflix recently.
Speaker 3: Well, I watched I watched Dateline the other day the
snake farm.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Oh? I have seen that one,
but you have to remind me.
Speaker 3: It was just like this, This young couple are living
on this big piece of property that they called it
the snake farm because the husband, again they were young,
but the husband uh had a reptile business. So he
had in his basement or whatever. It was just rows
and rows of snakes in like these little tupperware things
or like yeah and right, and his brother lived on
the property like next door. That is, so that the
parents own that property. So anyway, what happened, So then
they come nine one one they show up and the
wife is on the floor like like just doubled oat,
like like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know he might somebody's shot somebody.
Oh she said, he's got blood all over him. I
don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: I came home and he's on the floor with blood
and blood blah blah blah blah. And then the cops
are like, uh. As they're walking in, they're like it's
a reptile. They're like, I got my gun house, shoot
us on the bitch. He's like They're like, I fucking
see anything, I'm gonna fucking put a cap in it,
and they're like, there's the there's a python, six hundred
pound at firt They said python.
Speaker 1: On the loose.
Speaker 3: Oh no, and they're like and they thought like they thought,
And then the paramedics.
Speaker 1: Said they thought the python shot him. They didn't know
it was shot. They just saw blood.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the paramedic told the cop like, hey, watch
out because the paramedic said he has a bite.
Speaker 1: Mark, a snake bite mark.
Speaker 3: Oh, which they never explained that because spoiler alert, he
was shot eight times. Oh yeah, he didn't have He
wasn't killed by a snake with blood everywhere. So I
and anyway, it was just odd because they didn't talk
about like they thought the brother did it. They thought
this guy did it. And I'm thinking the wife the way,
but the paramedics, there's woman paramedics. She's like, I didn't
believe the wife did it because she seems so genuine
to me that she was really like, I'm like.
Speaker 1: How many datelines have you seen?
Speaker 3: Like she was like they pulled the wool over her,
they pulled the fucking snake skin over her eye. Because
she kept saying like, I didn't think she did it
at all, and so like then halfway in the middle
of dateline, then it was like, oh, then suddenly as
Andrea what's her name, Andrew Andrew Canning. It's funny because
when she talks to people, she's interviewing them, she's talking normal,
but when you hear the voiceover, it's just like and
then the police turn their heads towards the wife, and
then you know how she has that inflection of the
way she talks. He goes up and then goes down
and then up and down.
Speaker 1: It's so annoying. It is so annoying.
Speaker 3: It is so annoying, and it feels like it gets
worse every season.
Speaker 2: I really think it does. Like somebody's giving her bad advice. Yes,
like keep doing that thing you're doing.
Speaker 1: Right, it sounds yes, yes, So anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2: She has that like question to it, like and then
just as he went into the building, right, he found
another suspect.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, and it scores of scores of snakes. Yeah,
she's just a wait, it was just ridiculous, and but yes,
so turns out the wife like pulled a gun on him,
and like she's like, that's not to laugh, but like
she's just like she she went and got a guy
she wanted to kill.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is what I was going to talk about.
Speaker 3: She had two friends that she worked with at the
beauty salon. Okay, where can we find friends like these?
These two women are on the stand talking about like yeah, uh,
Amy's talking about how Steve's being really mean to her.
So she's like, you know, I wish I could get
rid of him, like for good.
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, how do we help?
Speaker 5: Like two different women she owned a spa, right and
two not in one conversation, right, two different conversations.
Speaker 1: So then they get Ashley on the stand.
Speaker 3: Well, we were doing each other's nails, and she's like,
Amy's like, yeah, I want to off my husband. She's like,
I got it. I'm gonna bring you my pills. I
have prescription medicine. So she brings her her whole trove
a prescription medicine, and she's like, take this and kill him.
So she and then she gets immunity because she's testifying
against her, so she's not going to jail, but.
Speaker 1: She gave the woman pills.
Speaker 3: So turns out the guy who ended up in the hospital,
her husband, was in the hospital two weeks before his
death because he was sick. Turned out wasn't bad milkshakes
like Amy said it was. She's like, I had a bad,
bad milkshake. He had a bad we bought. I was
just as sick as he was. No, it wasn't. You
tried to poison him with your friend Haley's fucking medicine cabinet.
Speaker 1: She's brought over all the shit. Okay. Then then the
other girl.
Speaker 3: That didn't work, So then the other girl goes, hey,
I I.
Speaker 2: Can help w Let me get in there, put me
in coach, yes, like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: She's like, I am a friend. That's like what was
her thing? The one was a medicine.
Speaker 3: This one was like uh I think she was like, yeah,
I have a hitman, like that's a friend, huh.
Speaker 1: And oh oh, I'll get you a gun. And she
got her the gun and.
Speaker 3: Then she went and picked up her old boyfriend for
moral support, and she wanted him to shoot him. And
the guy was like gets there and he's like, I'm
not gonna shoot your husband, like the fuck this?
Speaker 5: And she's like and she tried to, but my friends
said yes, Well, she didn't even tell me.
Speaker 4: She just said there was like a fourth of Julybary,
and I didn't know because I could see who was
on the guest listless.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like so yeah. And then she
he's like, he's like, I'm not gonna kill her.
Speaker 3: He's here, you do it, puts the gun in her hand,
and then her husband here, John's going, what are you
guys arguing about?
Speaker 1: And the gun goes off eight times and she killed
the other guy.
Speaker 2: The wanna be hip man or doesn't do it? She
cans didn't hit Man's there right now. All these witnesses
are there, right and no one comes forward.
Speaker 3: They eventually they all three, the two women that tried
to help her off her husband at this at the
salon that she worked at.
Speaker 1: And then the soul called chicken shit hit man.
Speaker 3: What a terrible hitman he was because he's like chicken
out gave her the gun and it's like you do it.
So they all three testified against her. But man, I
was like, oh my god, that's a doozy wow, just
like she's working at an herbal like spot, like they
made so much money off these snakes that her husband got.
Speaker 1: What was what did you?
Speaker 3: What do you want to do for your for your
career I want to own a spot. I want to
have an herbal spot, like you know, with sense and
like aromatherapy and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then women behind the curtains are talking about offering
her husband right on two different occasions.
Speaker 2: But the medication is organic, so like you, I can
not believe she brought over like, here's everything I got
in my medicine, Gamon, really.
Speaker 1: Healthy, duff promise you right? Oh my god, Yeah, that's
crazy speak thinking of.
Speaker 2: Like crazy stories like that. I got this email and
I just kind of want to read it to you.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, So.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there was a woman who wrote a book
and she wanted me to record the audio for it,
the audible basically, so if you if you write a
book and you self publish, you can employ this company
and then they will hire you. They'll hire like outside
voice actors, so you I don't think I ever actually
recorded anything for them, but I had to sign up
with this company. It pays really shitty, and it's like
they ask you for a lot. So it's like many Okay,
I've told you about like recording audio books. It's very acting.
It takes so long. You have to do so many
takes of things.
Speaker 1: This is like that, except for one hundred times worse
because you have to do it yourself, so you don't
have an engineer. You're just reading it to yourself, and
every time you mess up, you're starting over. Then you
have to send it into them.
Speaker 2: But also some of the projects sound really shitty, Okay,
like this one. So I won't tell you the name
of the company because I don't want to like defame
them or whatever. But this, Hi, Stephanie Wilder Taylor. We
would like to invite you to audition for one of
our newest projects. Should I just tell you what it's
called because it's kind of part of the fun of it. Okay,
It's called The Reluctant Womb Like Womb, it's a third
person narrative novel. I probably shouldn't have told you the
name of it. But it's funny, Okay. I'm sure it's
an amazing book, but it doesn't sound like an amazing.
Speaker 1: Thing to read. Okay.
Speaker 2: Then they tell you how much it pays seeking a
female identified.
Speaker 1: Narrator flu into in English with.
Speaker 2: A general American sound, who's well versed in dialect work.
Speaker 1: Okay, so right.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm out right I get to that line that
was kind of out at the title. But then also
now it's like, okay, don't do dialects. Obviously you can
see by the fact that I failed miserably doing a
Scottish impression, not five minutes ago. Okay, twenties, early thirties,
no vocal fry, not too breathy. Narration style should be
easy with a subtle approach to dialogue. Additional dialects include
Tanzanian English with an often British lilt. Then they give
you a reference like you can watch a YouTube video
for how to do that, Jamaican French, very brief, general,
American Southern brief.
Speaker 1: And New England.
Speaker 2: So you're looking for somebody who's like on SNL doing
like all right in different voices, right, Okay. Then it
says content warnings, profanity, conflict with one'sonn Christian faith, rape
not graphic, sexual assault, abortion, pro choice, and anti abortion. Okay,
it goes on twilight sleep during child birth, which I
don't know what, So are you going to be like
twilight sleep direct child birth.
Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm not going to voice that.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, bisexuality, racism, use of the term negro as
an identifier as was normalized in the sixties, use of
the N word as a slur by a character's racist father,
interracial romantic relation.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 2: But then oh my god, so the book info so
if you're not out already, but like, okay, I don't
really care what it's about except that this is this
is how sad it is.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: One girl's mother gave her up for adoption. One girl's
mother had postpartum psychosis. One girl's mother was raped, tried
to abort and failed. Two of the girls became pregnant
in nineteen sixty three. One girl has an illegal abortion,
one girl gives up her child for adoption. One dies
two eighty years old. Whip, I mean, I was just like,
oh my god, Oh my god. And then they go
on and on about and then these people, oh and
then the and the end of it just says it's
a nuanced, layered handling of unplanned pregnancies.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I was like, wow, yeah, I can't wait. Where
do I audition for this?
Speaker 3: Why is it like somebody just write that just sounds
I mean, talk about depressing.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't sound good, right, No, And to have
to do.
Speaker 3: You're right, like, who are they going to find that's
going to be able to do all those dialects.
Speaker 2: I'm glad they led with though Tanzanian English with a
British lilt, and New England and Jamaican and and and French.
It's just I was like, wow, no, thank you, and
it pays horrible.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing of all these Yeah, that's what
I'm saying, like, how are they going to find somebody?
Speaker 1: I just get the emails now, just because it makes
me laugh.
Speaker 2: I've never auditioned for any of them, but because one
time I for clarification, I was like, okay, so hold on,
so I have to edit everything myself.
Speaker 1: I would record myself and then.
Speaker 2: Edit all of it, and then they pay you an
amount of money per finished hour. So let's say the
book is eleven hours of Like if you're listening to
the book, it's eleven hours, yes, but that's like three
days of recording it, right, But they only pay you
for finish hour. So it's like, let's say it's like
even if it's like a it's like one hundred and
fifty dollars per hour or something, but you're it's not
one hundred and fifty dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and fifty dollars for three hours.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure some people would love to do it
no shade, but I'm like, that sounds like.
Speaker 3: Hard labor, and so they don't even want to hear
what you sound like.
Speaker 1: They know that this is just an audition. That's just
an audition. You have to audition.
Speaker 2: They send you pages, and you audition with a bunch
of other people and then you have to get picked.
The reason I got into it is because a woman
wanted me. I wasn't going to have to really auditioned.
So some woman liked my reading of Drunkish and was like,
I want you to read my book. I think I
wanted to have like some humor and like subtlety to it,
and I liked your read. So you have to get
to go through this company because that's who is doing
the production. But really, when I found out what it was,
I was like, well, so I would be doing the production.
I was open to doing it for her if there
was like a director, if there was somebody was doing it,
if I would go into a booth and record her book, fine,
then I was like, oh, I got to do the
whole thing myself. Yeah that sounds and for very little money. Yeah.
So now, anyway, I thought that was kind of funny.
That is interesting, not as funny as I think. I've
no thought it was.
Speaker 1: All right, this was super fun. All right, I gotta
call the vet soon. Yeah, call the vet. But let's
do it.
Speaker 2: Let's let's we don't even have that many shout outs,
but let's say hi to our people. Ashley so chic,
and Stephanie's a stinker wrinker and athena gin shirt of
your dancing Sandra, it's not easy being green, Jennifer, get
up girl, Come on girl, Aaron Sanchez, you're a dirty Sanchez.
And Leslie is still coughing Alicias go on, David on
the same, Oh Monday, Kelly.
Speaker 1: Bryant, che's your aunt Yep, she'll give you a mentos. Yes, look,
I want to put a popet and carry around for
the day.
Speaker 3: Sean Voshbay oh hot, Missy and Gabby still on Diddy Watch.
Speaker 1: Yes, stay until.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll tell us something soon. Yeah, Katerina, don't get
a root canal like me. Valerie, Bubba Fenwick, Polly, we
love your pancakes. Rita rocking everybody out in her best Sinette,
Elizabeth Williamson's got a lot of kids, Nikki, call your girl, Kelly,
Ladida Dick is frolicking. And Adam Lerner. Adam's got a
car dot com. You know what he does? You know
how to reach him? Yes, And I think that makes
it so easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks everybody. Happy birthday, Stephanie, thank you.
You're a parent. Now, don't f it up that angel.