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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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the podcast for All Sports Discussion dot Com. This is

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Jeff and you can follow me on x at Talking

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c C. All right, Matthew, I'm gonna turn it over

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to you now, and we all look ready to speak.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you for joining us on the longest running

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Both of us pump up material when the feeling arises

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at All Sportsdiscussion dot Com. This week we have an

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awesome return guest in Dan Carrow, the owner and operator

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of Treadmillhorse dot com. And Dan has been here in

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many capacities. He's been here as a podcast guest, He's

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been here as a panel panelist where we ask him

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to write for us, He's been here as a guest

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podcast host. He's just been an extreme friend of All

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sports discussion dot com. He's filled in for me when

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I've been under the weather, which happens sometimes when you

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, friend. The floor is you is tell us

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about yourself, anything you want to plug at your site.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to sounds good and thanks Matthew. I actually

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have a story since you mentioned the guest hosting thing.

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I really wanted to do the Pick six previews episode,

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but I was stuck in an airport in Chicago on

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like a multi hour delay, So it would have never

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worked out anyway, because either you would have gotten me

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in like a lounge at the airport in Chicago, or

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do it. So I was a little disappointed by that.

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But either way, I'm usually available to do those things,

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but not that week unfortunately. But yeah, a little bit

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about myself. Two thousand and four, Virginia tuch Brad. I've

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been running my Twitter account at treadmill Horse for the

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last at least eleven years, possibly longer. I've kind of

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lost track at this point. I've been running the blog

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since two thousand and thirteen, so on a weekly basis,

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and on top of that, just on x slash Twitter,

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upset alerts for like all the games and FBS nationwide.

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So if you need a good follow for the ACC

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in Virginia Tech, just give you a follow there on

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x slash Twitter. But yeah, that's that's pretty much it

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I wish you would have told me that, because I

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do have a story to tell you now about And

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I mean, let me be very clear, Like you said

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you were in the airports, and you were you know,

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would have got on the plane.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 2: We had some dude that was rock O Miller. I know,

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Jeff remembers this. He was literally at the PAC twelve tournament,

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sitting in the gym. Yes, I mean, I'm serious. I

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mean he just said, I just happened to be on

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my way to the next game, and I'm like, hey,

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whatever works for you, as long as you know we

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got we got audio. I mean I thought it was

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And you know, so you know, dude, we're we're we

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are the most flexible team I think on the earth.

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that because I also get, like, I get a lot

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of freedom at Allsorts Discussion dot Com on what I

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you find that you're find that you're walking outside or

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can join us at any time because we're happy to

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have you on this show anytime, anytime, anytime. So you know,

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there may be times when you got to put yourself

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or whatever, because that happens in the big DC area.

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But man, man, thanks again for joining us tonight. Man,

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I mean, let's get right to it. I mean, let's

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lots of stuff going on here, right, lots of stuff

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going on here. Which ACC football team was the most

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disappointing team this past week? And on the flip side,

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give us your most impressive ACC team. I think I

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haven't a pretty good idea about what you're going to

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talk about there, but you know, let's let's start out

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with the bad news grades.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 3: So, I think at this point Florida State has that

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most disappointing team. The script are pretty well locked up

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especially at home. I saw it as very much a

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winnable game for them, and honestly, I thought they would

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upset alert last week just because I feel like it's

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until they have a really nice win, like a really

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impressive win. Other than that, they're probably gonna be on

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it most weeks. But I really expected more from them.

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Speaker 4: Flip side, impressive.

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Speaker 3: I was really impressed by Boston College played super well

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against a top ten team from the SEC. Looked like

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they belonged, Like I can't remember a lot of games

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in the past where an ACC team going up against

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an SEC team looks really good, like especially a top.

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Speaker 3: So I was really impressed with what Bill O'Brien's doing

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up there. That looks like a really well coached team.

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like notching their second consecutive win against a Big twelve

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opponent in consecutive weeks, especially it being the backyard all

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that's a tough game like regardless of the year, and

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then having that be the follow up to beating Cincinnati

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the week before. I think Pit's on a nice trajectory

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right now. They look really good and those are two

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good wins for the ACC as a whole.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely it would be I will say this too.

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I mean, Miami did what they were supposed to do

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against an inferior opponent. They blew their They blew the

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doors off of ball State. And you know, in past

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years you might see them struggle for a first, you know,

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when old Goldie was there, you know, I mean, I

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mean it'd be a league a little facetious here, right,

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but I mean they they looked they they looked they

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looked the part, you know, And I haven't really been

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able to say that for a while, and it makes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't want to get in Miami's way at

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this point. Like they they very much look the part

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this year. There's been no slowing down the hype machines,

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like at full throttle. Cam Ward looks great, like, So

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for the ACC this week, they were number one, and

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since they beat Florida. They just they look like a

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machine right now, and no nobody's really been able to

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get them off the track, so they just keep rolling.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, Jeff, You're a friend.

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Speaker 1: Right, thank you, Matthew. Dan. Which ACC football game are

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you looking forward to the most this next week?

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Speaker 4: So the one that stands out is that Georgia Tech

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna end up being an important ACC game.

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I think both of those teams look like contenders, Like

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they're basically in the group behind Miami that has a

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shot to make it to Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: So I think even though it's an early game, it's

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Speaker 3: Game, I think that's gonna end up being like an

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important ACC game to determine which one of those teams

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Speaker 4: In the ACC title race.

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because I want to see more of what Syracuse is

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able to do, especially at home, Like is Stanford really

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gonna like make any noise in the ACC this year?

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Speaker 4: Is Clemson going to be good this year? Or are

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Speaker 3: And it's questions about NC State like are they are

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Speaker 4: ACC team this year. Same thing with like Callen Florida State,

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Speaker 3: And then finally another interesting non conference game Michigan State

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in Boston College. Boston College looked really impressive even in

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a loss this week. I'm interested to see if they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of good games featuring ACC teams on

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the docket this week, you know. Speaking of those matchups,

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which ACC team could be on upset alert dan if

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The one that concerns me a little bit here is Louisville.

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though that game's at home. Georgia Tech's a tough team

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like Georgia Tech's a team that can they can easily

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the Sunbelt that could definitely go into your place and

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Speaker 2: Can I add something here too, if you guys don't

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mind here? Uh boy, California going on the road were

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to Florida State in Florida State being favored by two

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think about that? Man? Serious about that? I've actually did

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serious about that? Because California looked pretty good. They looked

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looked they have. Honestly, they got a lot of criticism

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from FSU fans when they came into the conference, and

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they may actually go down there and win.

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Speaker 3: If that line stays the same, I'm taking Cal plus

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two and I'm taking calibuddy line because at this point,

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like we've seen no signs that Florida State's able to

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Speaker 4: Still. Like I I'm just not seeing a lot there

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Speaker 3: Get away against three and oh col like the same

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count team. Uh, they went to Auburn and one and

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Speaker 4: I think that has a Cal victory written.

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think they would have met out.

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that that's gonna be an interesting That's just gonna be

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an interesting matchup and and for and for a lot

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of reasons, for a lot of reasons. Because the jokes

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will I mean the jokes will be especially especially hard

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shot on Twitter. If if f SU loses that game,

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you know it'll be it'll be it'll be interesting to

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mind the mind the jokes for that. The I guess

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in is to see, uh, how well a UVA is

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gonna do? How well UVA is going to do on

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the road there. I think Virginia is going on the

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road the Coastal Carolina. Should they be worried about that?

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like they've they've taken at least one step forward versus

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the team they were last year. I don't know what

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to think honestly about Coastal Carolina. They've they've played a

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pretty soft schedule thus far. That that's a game I

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could see UVA winning. But I also think, like I mean,

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Speaker 4: Road at a G five stadium is tough.

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Speaker 3: Like, yes, those games never go well and it's never

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as easy as it seems on paper.

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Speaker 4: So having to travel to Conway.

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Speaker 3: South Carolina and play Coastal Carolina, I think that that's

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going to be a tough game. Yeah, And like on

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the surface, to me, it seems like Coastal Carolina would

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probably be my favorite in that game. But I think

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it's gonna be a close game regardless.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be a whole lot of alcohol flowing at

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that game, for sure. I'm serious. I mean it's pretty good.

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That's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be crazy. I mean

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because it's a crazy environment for baseball down there. It's

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a crazy environment for a lot of sports down there.

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But that's that's gonna be a rediculous that's like, I mean,

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they don't get a Power five, Like you said, they

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don't get a Power five. Schools come down there and

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visit too often. There's gonna be a lot of there's

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gonna be a lot of a lot of party, a

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lot of partying at that That games at two o'clock too.

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not not like they're showing up there at eight o'clock

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or nine o'clock in the morning or you know or

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whatever for a noon game. I mean, they'll they'll have

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enough time to roll out of bed, you know, go

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to a keg or whatever, and then go.

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Speaker 1: To the game.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be's I'm joking a little bit here,

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but it's gonna be kind of graaty. It's gonna be

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a crazy environment in the beat in Myrtle, you know,

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close to Myrtle Beach, Like you said, I mean, that's

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kind Conway's Conway's kind of a fun place, I guess.

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So sorry, I kind of derailed this, Sarah, Jeff, You're

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you're up, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that Florida State cal line, Matthew,

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because I'm not saying Florida State can't win the game,

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but anyone that is going into the game thinking Florida

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State will win the game as the favorite, I'm pretty sure.

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Like the only person who'd put that line together is

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maybe Mike Norvel's mom, because right now, I don't see

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any reason at all to make Florida State the favorite

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in that game. I don't know how they arrived to that.

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That's gonna it has to flip at least five points

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before the start of that game. Because you talk about cal,

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they're doing this without a healthy Jade and ought I

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wait till he get it's healthy. And they have a

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very feisty defense, and with the way that basically Florida

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State is a completely non functional offense. I would wager

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at the moment if I had to guess, I don't

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know if they crossed the midfield four times in the

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entire game without a turnover. So it's not impossible that

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Florida State wins that game. We know that there is

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some talent there. I mean, I mean, people look up

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and down that roster and they'd say that, you know,

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this is an NFL draft pick, that's an NFL draft pick,

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but right now they're a total train wreck, and that

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that line was unbelievable. When I saw that, I thought

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it was missing a digit somewhere, and that the line

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was flipped because I thought I thought Cal was going

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to open up a touchdown favorite. When when at the

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end of the San Diego State game and I jaw

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dropped when I saw Florida State being favored.

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Speaker 3: Yeh yeah, I'm just not saying any signs of life

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from that Florida State team.

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Speaker 4: And I think they have talent.

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Speaker 3: My read on it is they spent all off season

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reading press clippings about how good they were. They just

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didn't put in the work. I mean, I just don't

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have any other explanation for it. But yeah, I've watched

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I think I don't know if they've got three three games, yeah,

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three games so far this year. They just they just

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haven't looked good and any of them and I just

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am not seeing any signs of life thus far.

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Speaker 4: But maybe they'll play it around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, At the moment on September, you know, fourteenth, fifteenth,

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the weekend of September fourteenth, they're just a really bad

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football team. All right, Dan, let's step out of the

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acc for a bid here. Which which national FBS game

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are you looking forward to the most this week? And

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we're wide open with this question. This can be a

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Power five, non Power five. You can have an FCS

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matchup if you want, and then give us the winner

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of that game. Four two didn't have to stop at one.

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Speaker 4: So the one that the one that stands out to me.

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So I like that.

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Speaker 3: There's three ranked matchups coming up this week, and I'm

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excited about all three.

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Speaker 4: USC Michigan will be really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Watching USC come across the across the country to play

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in the Big House first time as Big Ten opponents.

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I wasn't really impressed with what I saw from Michigan

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in that Texas game, and I think the USC has

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the potential to do something similar to them. I'm just

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I'm just not sold on this year's Michigan team. So

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I think USC goes in there and gets a win

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in that game. The next one that stands out to

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me is Utah Oklahoma State. I think Utah is really good.

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I think Utah is gonna it's gonna like being a

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member of the Big Twelve this year.

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Speaker 4: But going on the road to play what I.

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Speaker 3: Think is a good Oklahoma State team, I think that'll

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be a tough matchup for them, And like I see

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that Oklahoma State's favored in that one, I like Utah

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to go in there and actually like pull the upset,

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Like I think, like to me, that's not a big upset,

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but I think I think they can go on the

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road and win. And then the last one that stands

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out to me is Tennessee at Oklahoma. Again, like another

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example of like Tennessee I think is a really good team.

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I think they've shown really well thus far this season,

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but again it's going on the road.

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Speaker 4: Can they can they do it on the road and

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what should be a really.

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Speaker 3: Tough atmosphere in at Oklahoma so that'll be really interesting.

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I see that the Tennessee's favorite in that one, and

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I think Tennessee will probably probably pull out that victory,

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but it's not going to be easy, and I'm interested

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to see how they do and their do on the

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road in that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff there, All right, Dan, We've kind

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of switched it up here with our last couple segments,

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and we want to give you an open mic chance here,

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you know, just hit on any topic that you want

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to discuss and then and then I'll turn it over

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to Matthew to close out the podcast. So what do

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you have, what's on your mind? And you can go

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anywhere with it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I've watched quite a bit of football this year,

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and this year I've been watching the football more in

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the in the sense that like I'm trying to get

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a gauge on where college football is going with the

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Big ten in SEC having these huge TV media deals

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like what happens to ACC, what happens to the Big Twelve,

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and just watching ACC football and Big twelve football. I

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think it's a good product. I think the ACC and

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Big twelve like play an exciting brand of football that

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I think needs to have a place in the future

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of the sport. Like I was watching back in the

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Backyard Brawl this weekend, Like that's a great game. That's

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a game should be played every single year. It's good television,

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Like the fans are really into it. It's an exciting

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brand of football. So when I read these articles telling

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me that there isn't a place for ACC.

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Speaker 4: Football or Big twelve football in the.

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Speaker 3: Future because we're going to have these mega conferences in

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the SEC in the Big Ten, I'm just kind of

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not buying it because regardless of what schools leave or

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what schools get inherited into those super conferences, I think

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there's really good and exciting football being played in the

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ACC and the Big Twelve, So that to me has

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to have a place in the future of college football.

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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how it's going to play out.

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Speaker 3: It's just a thought I've had over the past few

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weeks to start this season, Like I've seen a lot

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of really great football being played in the ACC, say

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with the Big Twelve, and I don't think I don't

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see it as like second tier football. Those those programs

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probably are have less football revenue.

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Speaker 4: Than their SEC and Big Ten counterparts.

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Speaker 3: But they play an exciting brand of football, so interesting

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to see how that all plays out.

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Speaker 1: Right, Matthew, I'm gonna turn it over to you for

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our last segment in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Dan, I'm gonna use my open microphone to

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ask you a question and then I'll turn turn turn

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it over to you. Uh So, I was looking at

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the looking at the lines today and I'm gonna ask

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you a question about Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech is favored

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against Rutgers at home. And I think the line the

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last I saw it was five and a half. It

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might have gone, might be a little lesser, a little

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higher now. I just have not seen it since this morning,

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and I honestly, I have to tell you, I was

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a little surprised to see that Virginia Tech was favored

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in that game. I don't know if there's something that

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Vegas knows that I perhaps don't. Certainly they probably do.

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Maybe somebody's not playing, maybe a critical player is not

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playing for Rutgers or something like that that when they're

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coming to Blacksburg. But I was surprised to see Virginia

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Tech favored in that game, considering considering the inconsistent play

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that I've seen over three games. Now, Virginia Tech did

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look good against ODU from what I understand yesterday, right,

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I mean I didn't watch all I didn't see all

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of it, but you know, they wanted any you know,

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in a pretty dominating manner like they should against the

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you know, a non Power five opponent. But they haven't

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really looked the Hokies really haven't looked that great over

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the last three over the last three weeks. And so

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I want to get your take on this specific game

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because it was surprising for me to see that the

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Hokies were favored and the only reason I could think

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of was the home field advantage at Lane.

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Speaker 4: So I think this questions in my wheelhouse. I'll try that.

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So the Virginia Tech used to get six points just because.

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Speaker 3: The game was played at Laane Stadium, Like I don't

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I think that's the case anymore. I think they get

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it's more like three points these days, but they definitely

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get some points just for being at home. The line

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is currently four and a half, which tells me that

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it's like one and a half if the game was

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played on a neutral field, like Virginia Tech by one

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and a half on a neutral field. I think that's

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being a little bit generous to Virginia Tech, just in

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the sense that I think that Manung guy, the running

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back for Rutgers, is going to rush for basic. You

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can basically put down that he's gonna get one hundred

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and fifty yards on the ground this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Like, I feel pretty confident in that.

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Speaker 3: I do ever think that this matchup favors Virginia Tach

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in a way, just that Rutgers doesn't have a running

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quarterback that Virginia Tach's had a lot of issues with

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thus far this season.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that plays into Virginia Tech's favor a little bit.

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I am a little.

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Speaker 3: Worried because Virginia Tech against Vanderbilt wasn't able to tackle

482
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really well, and this is a game where everyone's gonna

483
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have to be on their game tackling wise.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think there is something to be said about the

486
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magic of Layte Stadium, just that Virginia Tech does play

487
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better there. But I see this as like a really

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close game. I think this game will come down to

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three points either way at the end. I'm not sure

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which way that's gonna go. I don't really see Rutgers

491
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coming in and blowing out Virginia Tech. Like, I just

492
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don't think that's gonna happen. I think it's gonna be close.

493
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But I'm also not sold on Virginia Tech being over

494
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a field goal favorite that that doesn't really make sense

495
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to me either.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, those are my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: If I if I had to pick today, I'd probably

498
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pick Rutgers to cover that line, but that that might

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change over the course of.

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Speaker 4: The of the coming week, So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Now, fair enough, I mean I had this at the

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beginning of the season as one of Virginia Tech's losses.

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I certainly didn't have Virginia Tech going down to Vanderbilt

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and taking NL down there. And so if Rgia Tech

505
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were to win this game, they'd probably, you know, in theory,

506
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on the numbers number numbers scale, Virginia Tech would be

507
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right where I thought they would be. But that means

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that they have to win this game in order to

509
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be where I thought they'd be after, you know, after

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completing the non conference season. But I I just looked

511
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at the line and I was a little surprised considering

512
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the the inconsistency. Now, if Virginia Tech can run the ball,

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you know, which I think is going to be a

514
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stealthy challenge because drag Ciano is a pretty good coach, right,

515
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I mean, he will know what they want to do.

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He'll know what they want to do. I just don't

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then I then I have Then I have concerns, have

520
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concerns about that, I just being being able to open

521
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up the playbook and perhaps not hopefully they haven't shown

522
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everything right and that they have some some you know,

523
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some good plays up there. I mean I'd love, for example,

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the c XT B out in space. You know, we

525
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haven't really seen too much that this year, and maybe

526
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there are some opportunity opportunities for that. What do you think?

527
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Speaker 4: I think there's more in the bag.

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Speaker 3: Like I say that having seen the play they scored

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their first touchdown on this weekend was a tackle lined

530
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up as a wide receiver doing jumping jacks. Well, Jalen

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right Lane runs all the way down to the to

532
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the end zone. So that's what I hadn't seen before,

533
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And I think that's interesting. But I think I think

534
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,559
Tyler Bowen can come up with some creative stuff, Like

535
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we saw some of that at the end of last year.

536
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I think against Rutgers, he's gonna need to go into

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that bag just because the plain vanilla game plan that

538
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we've seen in the first few weeks, I don't think

539
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it's gonna cut it this week, so we're I'd like

540
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to see him go into that bag just to get

541
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a little bit more creative on the offensive side, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely what do you got first?

543
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Speaker 4: Yet?

544
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Speaker 2: Open mic number two?

545
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Speaker 4: Was that for me?

546
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Speaker 2: For you man?

547
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Speaker 1: You got?

548
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Speaker 2: You got anything you want to share?

549
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Speaker 3: I could talk about the line and that and that

550
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Cow game a little bit, a little bit longer. Yeah,

551
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I mean that one is really surprising to me. I

552
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would tell I would tell your listeners to make some

553
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money on that one, because if that one stays Florida

554
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State by two, uh, I'd be all over that one.

555
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My My guess is, like an, I agree with with

556
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what Jeff said. I think that line's probably gonna swing

557
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more to cal Cow minus two by game time.

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Speaker 4: So if you can jump on that one now, I

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would jump on it now.

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Speaker 3: But there's I've seen nothing thus far to make me

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think that Florida State wins that game. Let's let alone

562
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covers a spread of like two points at this point, like.

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Speaker 4: I just don't see it happening, so so make some

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money there.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that one's an easy pick to

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take advantage of.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Dan, Jeff, You're a brand.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys. I I think we were all kind

569
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of unsure when when Kyle and s m U and

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Stanford came into the league. You know, how how was

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it gonna be for the for the rest of the

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a SEC. And I tell you one thing that's kind

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of pleasantly surprised me and the calf the Cal fan base.

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They're they're kind of a fun bunch. They seem like

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have you seen them on on Twitter and and what

576
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some of the things they've done. They bought billboards, uh,

577
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I think in Charlotte and Atlanta celebrating their win over

578
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Auburn saying they were proud members of the a c

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C And uh, they've got some some pretty funny uh

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Twitter accounts out there going on that as that's kind

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of been on a roll the last couple of weeks.

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I mean, if they be if they win at Florida State,

583
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have you got to check it out? Have you guys

584
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seen them? I've been I've been pretty I've been pleasantly

585
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surprised and kind of impressed.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I love I love those guys. They have a

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really good fan base. They're really fun about it, like

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they're they're really creative. I really hope if they win

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this weekend they get a billboard in Tallahassee. I think

590
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I think that's the move. But yeah, they're fun. Like

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I also saw this this weekend that they were throwing

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their their giveaway signs onto the field. They got two

593
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fifteen yard penalties for it, which which isn't great. But

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I think the AEC needs more like passionate fan bases

595
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like that. They're just like that fun and like they're

596
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good and active and like to interact on Twitter and

597
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like I think I think the ACC just needs more

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fun in the league. So happy to see everything that

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they're bringing to the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you there, I'm with you there, Dan,

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That's what I wanted to hit on a Matthew. Looking

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forward to this this weekend, lot of you know, games

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that are going to go a long way to decide

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how the ACC looks. I think the Louisville, Georgia Tech

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game that Dan mentioned is really one to keep an

606
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,200
eye on you know, Louisville opened the season with two

607
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teams without any pulse, and you know, you really wonder,

608
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you know, how good is that team. You know, Georgia

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Tech clearly played a much more difficult schedule, and I

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think we all agree that that's a pretty decent team.

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But if Louisville you know, easily handles Georgia Tech, They're

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going to move up way up on that, you know,

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that chart of teams that think you think can win

614
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the A C C. I think that's a really even

615
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evenly matched game that I'm looking forward to. And and

616
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the Miami South Florida game is kind of intriguing. I

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do think, you know, Miami should be able to to

618
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comfortably handle South Florida. But this was the South Florida

619
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team that got, you know, through three and a half

620
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quarters with Alabama until the depth of Alabama just kind

621
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of warmed down. The score, really, of the final score

622
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of that game was really misleading and not indicative of

623
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how well South Florida you know, played, especially on the

624
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defensive side of the ball. If if cam Ward really

625
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just goes off on you know, on South Florida against

626
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a team I think, I think it can really play

627
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solid defense. You know, I'm just going to add to Hey,

628
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this Miami team might just be different than than previous editions.

629
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And you know, through the course of this year, this year,

630
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you know, they're blowing out exactly who they need to

631
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blow out. You know, they went into the swamp. We're

632
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finding out just how bad Florida is. But if they

633
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handle South Florida too, this might be a different edition

634
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of Miami. So just just a lot of really intriguing

635
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games this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this before we go, shout out to

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patn ar News for getting that five thousand dollars fine

638
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from the Athletic Coast conference.

639
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Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was awesome.

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Speaker 2: That was and that was right before we got out

641
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into the podcast. And I'd shout out to the donors

642
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or paying the fine for Pat Nardoozy. I'm sure he

643
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I'm sure he has wanted to say that for years,

644
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and I'm sure he has always has always has somebody

645
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in the back pocket ready to drop the cast for

646
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his for his cut for his comments that I am.

647
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I'm happy that he got them out.

648
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Speaker 4: I'm happy that.

649
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Speaker 2: The ACC closed this manner without further discussion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And man, what we hadn't really got into that,

651
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but you know, Dan mentioned it for sure. What a

652
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,039
great win for Pitt, you know, winning the backyard brawl.

653
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,039
That that is a team I'm not quite sure how

654
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:47,440
good they are, to be perfectly honest, They're a little

655
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bit inconsistent on offense, and I'm not sure how much

656
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,199
I trust there. They're back seven on defense, who's kind

657
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,320
of prone to giving up big plays. But man, that

658
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,360
team has a ton of heart. That's two weeks in

659
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,719
a row, had double digit second half deficits against a

660
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,480
pretty decent competition. I think West Virginia is actually a

661
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960
pretty good team. And for them to come back both

662
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,119
of those games, I mean great comebacks by by Pitt,

663
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And I mean you can't ignore that because you know,

664
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I think they're going to get better on the inconsistent

665
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,480
uh you know, and some of their inconsistent play, and

666
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,159
right now, that's a team that they can they believe

667
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,360
they can win no matter what the score is. So

668
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:31,519
hats off to Pitt on that win.

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Speaker 3: There's one last thought on the officiating and Pat rdoozy

670
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taking that taking that fine. I wish more ACC coaches

671
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would do that, because I've seen enough bad officiating in

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this league that needs to be called out. And at

673
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:51,920
this point with that, I l and these players getting

674
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920
paid six digits like you might as well just take

675
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,679
the five thousand dollars, fine, get somebody to pay it,

676
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,000
and move on. But some of the some of these

677
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960
this bad officiating doesn't need to be called out, and

678
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,639
I'm happy that Pat Nardizi did that.

679
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Speaker 2: Amen, brother, Amen, Dan, thank you so much for joining

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the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast and spending your Sunday

681
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,119
evening with us. We appreciated having you on the show

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and we'd love to have you come on the show

683
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,639
again sometime. Thanks again for spending your Sunday evening with us.

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Speaker 4: Dan awesome. Thanks, guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, take care. I have a great week, guys,