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I mean, let's get right to it. I mean, let's
get right to it. We get a lot, you know,
lots of stuff going on here, right, lots of stuff
going on here. Which ACC football team was the most
disappointing team this past week? And on the flip side,
give us your most impressive ACC team. I think I
haven't a pretty good idea about what you're going to
talk about there, but you know, let's let's start out
with the bad news grades.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 3: So, I think at this point Florida State has that
most disappointing team. The script are pretty well locked up
for the year.
Speaker 4: I think, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, Like I feel like the Memphis game was
an opportunity for Florida State to get back on track,
especially at home. I saw it as very much a
winnable game for them, and honestly, I thought they would
do a little bit better. I put them on my
upset alert last week just because I feel like it's
for them to get off that at this point until
until they have a really nice win, like a really
impressive win. Other than that, they're probably gonna be on
it most weeks. But I really expected more from them.
The fact that Memphis pretty much had control of that
game for the vast majority of it, I think that
was really disappointing, but on the.
Speaker 4: Flip side, impressive.
Speaker 3: I was really impressed by Boston College played super well
against a top ten team from the SEC. Looked like
they belonged, Like I can't remember a lot of games
in the past where an ACC team going up against
an SEC team looks really good, like especially a top.
Speaker 4: Ten SEC team.
Speaker 3: So I was really impressed with what Bill O'Brien's doing
up there. That looks like a really well coached team.
And then secondly, I think I need to call out Pitt,
like notching their second consecutive win against a Big twelve
opponent in consecutive weeks, especially it being the backyard all
that's a tough game like regardless of the year, and
then having that be the follow up to beating Cincinnati
the week before. I think Pit's on a nice trajectory
right now. They look really good and those are two
good wins for the ACC as a whole.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely it would be I will say this too.
I mean, Miami did what they were supposed to do
against an inferior opponent. They blew their They blew the
doors off of ball State. And you know, in past
years you might see them struggle for a first, you know,
for a quarter or two, you know, when you know,
when old Goldie was there, you know, I mean, I
mean it'd be a league a little facetious here, right,
but I mean they they looked they they looked they
looked the part, you know, And I haven't really been
able to say that for a while, and it makes
me wonder, Dan, what Miami is going to do to
Florida State.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't want to get in Miami's way at
this point. Like they they very much look the part
this year. There's been no slowing down the hype machines,
like at full throttle. Cam Ward looks great, like, So
I think I think Miami is in a really good place.
And when I when I did my weekly power rankings
for the ACC this week, they were number one, and
they've been number one, I think since since Week one,
since they beat Florida. They just they look like a
machine right now, and no nobody's really been able to
get them off the track, so they just keep rolling.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, Jeff, You're a friend.
Speaker 1: Right, thank you, Matthew. Dan. Which ACC football game are
you looking forward to the most this next week?
Speaker 4: So the one that stands out is that Georgia Tech
Louisville game.
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna end up being an important ACC game.
I think both of those teams look like contenders, Like
they're basically in the group behind Miami that has a
shot to make it to Charlotte.
Speaker 4: So I think even though it's an early game, it's
a September.
Speaker 3: Game, I think that's gonna end up being like an
important ACC game to determine which one of those teams
is actually a competitor contender.
Speaker 4: In the ACC title race.
Speaker 3: Other than that, I think there's a lot of interesting
matchups this week. Stanford Syracuse. That one looks interesting a
because I want to see more of what Syracuse is
able to do, especially at home, Like is Stanford really
gonna like make any noise in the ACC this year?
I think it'll be interesting to see how that one
plays out. NC State Clemson, like getting a little bit
more information on like is.
Speaker 4: Is Clemson going to be good this year? Or are
they taking a step back?
Speaker 3: And it's questions about NC State like are they are
they for real or are they kind of like a
middle of the pack.
Speaker 4: ACC team this year. Same thing with like Callen Florida State,
Like Cow's looked really good so far, Florida State hasn't,
and like is cal able to fly all the way
across the country and really take care of Florida State
like they did Auburn. So that's an interesting one to me.
Speaker 3: And then finally another interesting non conference game Michigan State
in Boston College. Boston College looked really impressive even in
a loss this week. I'm interested to see if they
can if they can make some noise in a home
game against against Michigan State. So those all look like
pretty interesting games to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of good games featuring ACC teams on
the docket this week, you know. Speaking of those matchups,
which ACC team could be on upset alert dan if
they're looking ahead to a game on their schedule or
otherwise just sleep walking on the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The one that concerns me a little bit here is Louisville.
So Louisville's got a tough game with Georgia Tech, but
then like they've got Notre Dame next week, I think
Louisville definitely should not be looking past Georgia Tech, even
though that game's at home. Georgia Tech's a tough team
like Georgia Tech's a team that can they can easily
win that game if they if Louisville sleepwalking or overlooks them.
So Louisville's got to make sure not to be looking
ahead to Notre Dame and then just as far as
like sleepwalking and not showing not being ready to play
or not being ready for a game, I would say
u UNC needs to look out for JMU. I think
most of your listeners listeners probably know the JMU has
done a good job since moving up to well even before.
They've been a solid football team for a long time.
They're not a team to overlook. They're a team from
the Sunbelt that could definitely go into your place and
get a win. So North Carolina's got to be ready
to go if they if they're slow to start or
they're sleepwalking through that game, Jamie's definitely able to pull
up something.
Speaker 2: Can I add something here too, if you guys don't
mind here? Uh boy, California going on the road were
to Florida State in Florida State being favored by two
and a half. I meand what what what do you
think about that? Man? Serious about that? I've actually did
serious about that? Because California looked pretty good. They looked
pretty good so far this year. They looked they have
looked they have. Honestly, they got a lot of criticism
from FSU fans when they came into the conference, and
they may actually go down there and win.
Speaker 3: If that line stays the same, I'm taking Cal plus
two and I'm taking calibuddy line because at this point,
like we've seen no signs that Florida State's able to
turn it around, especially if dj Us under center.
Speaker 4: Still. Like I I'm just not seeing a lot there
to make me think that they can.
Speaker 3: Get away against three and oh col like the same
count team. Uh, they went to Auburn and one and
then be a pretty decent San Diego State team this week.
Speaker 4: I think that has a Cal victory written.
Speaker 2: I want to add a little bit there too. I
mean Cal knows dj U because they played him last year.
If I'm not mistaken, right when he was in Oregon State,
If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Unless there was a scheduling quirk, I would I would
think they would have met out.
Speaker 2: Yet Yeah, I mean it was, so I mean that
that that's gonna be an interesting That's just gonna be
an interesting matchup and and for and for a lot
of reasons, for a lot of reasons. Because the jokes
will I mean the jokes will be especially especially hard
shot on Twitter. If if f SU loses that game,
you know it'll be it'll be it'll be interesting to
mind the mind the jokes for that. The I guess
the other one I'm sort of interesting, sort of interested
in is to see, uh, how well a UVA is
gonna do? How well UVA is going to do on
the road there. I think Virginia is going on the
road the Coastal Carolina. Should they be worried about that?
Speaker 4: I would definitely be worried.
Speaker 3: I think Virginia definitely looks better than they did last season,
like they've they've taken at least one step forward versus
the team they were last year. I don't know what
to think honestly about Coastal Carolina. They've they've played a
pretty soft schedule thus far. That that's a game I
could see UVA winning. But I also think, like I mean,
I think I've said this on your your podcast multiple times,
going on the.
Speaker 4: Road at a G five stadium is tough.
Speaker 3: Like, yes, those games never go well and it's never
as easy as it seems on paper.
Speaker 4: So having to travel to Conway.
Speaker 3: South Carolina and play Coastal Carolina, I think that that's
going to be a tough game. Yeah, And like on
the surface, to me, it seems like Coastal Carolina would
probably be my favorite in that game. But I think
it's gonna be a close game regardless.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a whole lot of alcohol flowing at
that game, for sure. I'm serious. I mean it's pretty good.
That's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be crazy. I mean
because it's a crazy environment for baseball down there. It's
a crazy environment for a lot of sports down there.
But that's that's gonna be a rediculous that's like, I mean,
they don't get a Power five, Like you said, they
don't get a Power five. Schools come down there and
visit too often. There's gonna be a lot of there's
gonna be a lot of a lot of party, a
lot of partying at that That games at two o'clock too.
It's a i mean an early afternoon start. So it's
not not like they're showing up there at eight o'clock
or nine o'clock in the morning or you know or
whatever for a noon game. I mean, they'll they'll have
enough time to roll out of bed, you know, go
to a keg or whatever, and then go.
Speaker 1: To the game.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be's I'm joking a little bit here,
but it's gonna be kind of graaty. It's gonna be
a crazy environment in the beat in Myrtle, you know,
close to Myrtle Beach, Like you said, I mean, that's
kind Conway's Conway's kind of a fun place, I guess.
So sorry, I kind of derailed this, Sarah, Jeff, You're
you're up, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that Florida State cal line, Matthew,
because I'm not saying Florida State can't win the game,
but anyone that is going into the game thinking Florida
State will win the game as the favorite, I'm pretty sure.
Like the only person who'd put that line together is
maybe Mike Norvel's mom, because right now, I don't see
any reason at all to make Florida State the favorite
in that game. I don't know how they arrived to that.
That's gonna it has to flip at least five points
before the start of that game. Because you talk about cal,
they're doing this without a healthy Jade and ought I
wait till he get it's healthy. And they have a
very feisty defense, and with the way that basically Florida
State is a completely non functional offense. I would wager
at the moment if I had to guess, I don't
know if they crossed the midfield four times in the
entire game without a turnover. So it's not impossible that
Florida State wins that game. We know that there is
some talent there. I mean, I mean, people look up
and down that roster and they'd say that, you know,
this is an NFL draft pick, that's an NFL draft pick,
but right now they're a total train wreck, and that
that line was unbelievable. When I saw that, I thought
it was missing a digit somewhere, and that the line
was flipped because I thought I thought Cal was going
to open up a touchdown favorite. When when at the
end of the San Diego State game and I jaw
dropped when I saw Florida State being favored.
Speaker 3: Yeh yeah, I'm just not saying any signs of life
from that Florida State team.
Speaker 4: And I think they have talent.
Speaker 3: My read on it is they spent all off season
reading press clippings about how good they were. They just
didn't put in the work. I mean, I just don't
have any other explanation for it. But yeah, I've watched
I think I don't know if they've got three three games, yeah,
three games so far this year. They just they just
haven't looked good and any of them and I just
am not seeing any signs of life thus far.
Speaker 4: But maybe they'll play it around.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, At the moment on September, you know, fourteenth, fifteenth,
the weekend of September fourteenth, they're just a really bad
football team. All right, Dan, let's step out of the
acc for a bid here. Which which national FBS game
are you looking forward to the most this week? And
we're wide open with this question. This can be a
Power five, non Power five. You can have an FCS
matchup if you want, and then give us the winner
of that game. Four two didn't have to stop at one.
Speaker 4: So the one that the one that stands out to me.
So I like that.
Speaker 3: There's three ranked matchups coming up this week, and I'm
excited about all three.
Speaker 4: USC Michigan will be really interesting.
Speaker 3: Watching USC come across the across the country to play
in the Big House first time as Big Ten opponents.
I wasn't really impressed with what I saw from Michigan
in that Texas game, and I think the USC has
the potential to do something similar to them. I'm just
I'm just not sold on this year's Michigan team. So
I think USC goes in there and gets a win
in that game. The next one that stands out to
me is Utah Oklahoma State. I think Utah is really good.
I think Utah is gonna it's gonna like being a
member of the Big Twelve this year.
Speaker 4: But going on the road to play what I.
Speaker 3: Think is a good Oklahoma State team, I think that'll
be a tough matchup for them, And like I see
that Oklahoma State's favored in that one, I like Utah
to go in there and actually like pull the upset,
Like I think, like to me, that's not a big upset,
but I think I think they can go on the
road and win. And then the last one that stands
out to me is Tennessee at Oklahoma. Again, like another
example of like Tennessee I think is a really good team.
I think they've shown really well thus far this season,
but again it's going on the road.
Speaker 4: Can they can they do it on the road and
what should be a really.
Speaker 3: Tough atmosphere in at Oklahoma so that'll be really interesting.
I see that the Tennessee's favorite in that one, and
I think Tennessee will probably probably pull out that victory,
but it's not going to be easy, and I'm interested
to see how they do and their do on the
road in that one.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff there, All right, Dan, We've kind
of switched it up here with our last couple segments,
and we want to give you an open mic chance here,
you know, just hit on any topic that you want
to discuss and then and then I'll turn it over
to Matthew to close out the podcast. So what do
you have, what's on your mind? And you can go
anywhere with it.
Speaker 3: Sure, I've watched quite a bit of football this year,
and this year I've been watching the football more in
the in the sense that like I'm trying to get
a gauge on where college football is going with the
Big ten in SEC having these huge TV media deals
like what happens to ACC, what happens to the Big Twelve,
and just watching ACC football and Big twelve football. I
think it's a good product. I think the ACC and
Big twelve like play an exciting brand of football that
I think needs to have a place in the future
of the sport. Like I was watching back in the
Backyard Brawl this weekend, Like that's a great game. That's
a game should be played every single year. It's good television,
Like the fans are really into it. It's an exciting
brand of football. So when I read these articles telling
me that there isn't a place for ACC.
Speaker 4: Football or Big twelve football in the.
Speaker 3: Future because we're going to have these mega conferences in
the SEC in the Big Ten, I'm just kind of
not buying it because regardless of what schools leave or
what schools get inherited into those super conferences, I think
there's really good and exciting football being played in the
ACC and the Big Twelve, So that to me has
to have a place in the future of college football.
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how it's going to play out.
Speaker 3: It's just a thought I've had over the past few
weeks to start this season, Like I've seen a lot
of really great football being played in the ACC, say
with the Big Twelve, and I don't think I don't
see it as like second tier football. Those those programs
probably are have less football revenue.
Speaker 4: Than their SEC and Big Ten counterparts.
Speaker 3: But they play an exciting brand of football, so interesting
to see how that all plays out.
Speaker 1: Right, Matthew, I'm gonna turn it over to you for
our last segment in this podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Dan, I'm gonna use my open microphone to
ask you a question and then I'll turn turn turn
it over to you. Uh So, I was looking at
the looking at the lines today and I'm gonna ask
you a question about Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech is favored
against Rutgers at home. And I think the line the
last I saw it was five and a half. It
might have gone, might be a little lesser, a little
higher now. I just have not seen it since this morning,
and I honestly, I have to tell you, I was
a little surprised to see that Virginia Tech was favored
in that game. I don't know if there's something that
Vegas knows that I perhaps don't. Certainly they probably do.
Maybe somebody's not playing, maybe a critical player is not
playing for Rutgers or something like that that when they're
coming to Blacksburg. But I was surprised to see Virginia
Tech favored in that game, considering considering the inconsistent play
that I've seen over three games. Now, Virginia Tech did
look good against ODU from what I understand yesterday, right,
I mean I didn't watch all I didn't see all
of it, but you know, they wanted any you know,
in a pretty dominating manner like they should against the
you know, a non Power five opponent. But they haven't
really looked the Hokies really haven't looked that great over
the last three over the last three weeks. And so
I want to get your take on this specific game
because it was surprising for me to see that the
Hokies were favored and the only reason I could think
of was the home field advantage at Lane.
Speaker 4: So I think this questions in my wheelhouse. I'll try that.
So the Virginia Tech used to get six points just because.
Speaker 3: The game was played at Laane Stadium, Like I don't
I think that's the case anymore. I think they get
it's more like three points these days, but they definitely
get some points just for being at home. The line
is currently four and a half, which tells me that
it's like one and a half if the game was
played on a neutral field, like Virginia Tech by one
and a half on a neutral field. I think that's
being a little bit generous to Virginia Tech, just in
the sense that I think that Manung guy, the running
back for Rutgers, is going to rush for basic. You
can basically put down that he's gonna get one hundred
and fifty yards on the ground this weekend.
Speaker 4: Like, I feel pretty confident in that.
Speaker 3: I do ever think that this matchup favors Virginia Tach
in a way, just that Rutgers doesn't have a running
quarterback that Virginia Tach's had a lot of issues with
thus far this season.
Speaker 4: Maybe that plays into Virginia Tech's favor a little bit.
I am a little.
Speaker 3: Worried because Virginia Tech against Vanderbilt wasn't able to tackle
really well, and this is a game where everyone's gonna
have to be on their game tackling wise.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think there is something to be said about the
magic of Layte Stadium, just that Virginia Tech does play
better there. But I see this as like a really
close game. I think this game will come down to
three points either way at the end. I'm not sure
which way that's gonna go. I don't really see Rutgers
coming in and blowing out Virginia Tech. Like, I just
don't think that's gonna happen. I think it's gonna be close.
But I'm also not sold on Virginia Tech being over
a field goal favorite that that doesn't really make sense
to me either.
Speaker 4: So I mean, those are my thoughts.
Speaker 3: If I if I had to pick today, I'd probably
pick Rutgers to cover that line, but that that might
change over the course of.
Speaker 4: The of the coming week, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Now, fair enough, I mean I had this at the
beginning of the season as one of Virginia Tech's losses.
I certainly didn't have Virginia Tech going down to Vanderbilt
and taking NL down there. And so if Rgia Tech
were to win this game, they'd probably, you know, in theory,
on the numbers number numbers scale, Virginia Tech would be
right where I thought they would be. But that means
that they have to win this game in order to
be where I thought they'd be after, you know, after
completing the non conference season. But I I just looked
at the line and I was a little surprised considering
the the inconsistency. Now, if Virginia Tech can run the ball,
you know, which I think is going to be a
stealthy challenge because drag Ciano is a pretty good coach, right,
I mean, he will know what they want to do.
He'll know what they want to do. I just don't
you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then I then I have Then I have concerns, have
concerns about that, I just being being able to open
up the playbook and perhaps not hopefully they haven't shown
everything right and that they have some some you know,
some good plays up there. I mean I'd love, for example,
the c XT B out in space. You know, we
haven't really seen too much that this year, and maybe
there are some opportunity opportunities for that. What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think there's more in the bag.
Speaker 3: Like I say that having seen the play they scored
their first touchdown on this weekend was a tackle lined
up as a wide receiver doing jumping jacks. Well, Jalen
right Lane runs all the way down to the to
the end zone. So that's what I hadn't seen before,
And I think that's interesting. But I think I think
Tyler Bowen can come up with some creative stuff, Like
we saw some of that at the end of last year.
I think against Rutgers, he's gonna need to go into
that bag just because the plain vanilla game plan that
we've seen in the first few weeks, I don't think
it's gonna cut it this week, so we're I'd like
to see him go into that bag just to get
a little bit more creative on the offensive side, for sure.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely what do you got first?
Speaker 4: Yet?
Speaker 2: Open mic number two?
Speaker 4: Was that for me?
Speaker 2: For you man?
Speaker 1: You got?
Speaker 2: You got anything you want to share?
Speaker 3: I could talk about the line and that and that
Cow game a little bit, a little bit longer. Yeah,
I mean that one is really surprising to me. I
would tell I would tell your listeners to make some
money on that one, because if that one stays Florida
State by two, uh, I'd be all over that one.
My My guess is, like an, I agree with with
what Jeff said. I think that line's probably gonna swing
more to cal Cow minus two by game time.
Speaker 4: So if you can jump on that one now, I
would jump on it now.
Speaker 3: But there's I've seen nothing thus far to make me
think that Florida State wins that game. Let's let alone
covers a spread of like two points at this point, like.
Speaker 4: I just don't see it happening, so so make some
money there.
Speaker 3: I think I think that one's an easy pick to
take advantage of.
Speaker 2: Well done, Dan, Jeff, You're a brand.
Speaker 1: You know, guys. I I think we were all kind
of unsure when when Kyle and s m U and
Stanford came into the league. You know, how how was
it gonna be for the for the rest of the
a SEC. And I tell you one thing that's kind
of pleasantly surprised me and the calf the Cal fan base.
They're they're kind of a fun bunch. They seem like
have you seen them on on Twitter and and what
some of the things they've done. They bought billboards, uh,
I think in Charlotte and Atlanta celebrating their win over
Auburn saying they were proud members of the a c
C And uh, they've got some some pretty funny uh
Twitter accounts out there going on that as that's kind
of been on a roll the last couple of weeks.
I mean, if they be if they win at Florida State,
have you got to check it out? Have you guys
seen them? I've been I've been pretty I've been pleasantly
surprised and kind of impressed.
Speaker 3: Actually, I love I love those guys. They have a
really good fan base. They're really fun about it, like
they're they're really creative. I really hope if they win
this weekend they get a billboard in Tallahassee. I think
I think that's the move. But yeah, they're fun. Like
I also saw this this weekend that they were throwing
their their giveaway signs onto the field. They got two
fifteen yard penalties for it, which which isn't great. But
I think the AEC needs more like passionate fan bases
like that. They're just like that fun and like they're
good and active and like to interact on Twitter and
like I think I think the ACC just needs more
fun in the league. So happy to see everything that
they're bringing to the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you there, I'm with you there, Dan,
That's what I wanted to hit on a Matthew. Looking
forward to this this weekend, lot of you know, games
that are going to go a long way to decide
how the ACC looks. I think the Louisville, Georgia Tech
game that Dan mentioned is really one to keep an
eye on you know, Louisville opened the season with two
teams without any pulse, and you know, you really wonder,
you know, how good is that team. You know, Georgia
Tech clearly played a much more difficult schedule, and I
think we all agree that that's a pretty decent team.
But if Louisville you know, easily handles Georgia Tech, They're
going to move up way up on that, you know,
that chart of teams that think you think can win
the A C C. I think that's a really even
evenly matched game that I'm looking forward to. And and
the Miami South Florida game is kind of intriguing. I
do think, you know, Miami should be able to to
comfortably handle South Florida. But this was the South Florida
team that got, you know, through three and a half
quarters with Alabama until the depth of Alabama just kind
of warmed down. The score, really, of the final score
of that game was really misleading and not indicative of
how well South Florida you know, played, especially on the
defensive side of the ball. If if cam Ward really
just goes off on you know, on South Florida against
a team I think, I think it can really play
solid defense. You know, I'm just going to add to Hey,
this Miami team might just be different than than previous editions.
And you know, through the course of this year, this year,
you know, they're blowing out exactly who they need to
blow out. You know, they went into the swamp. We're
finding out just how bad Florida is. But if they
handle South Florida too, this might be a different edition
of Miami. So just just a lot of really intriguing
games this weekend.
Speaker 2: I'll just say this before we go, shout out to
patn ar News for getting that five thousand dollars fine
from the Athletic Coast conference.
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 2: That was and that was right before we got out
into the podcast. And I'd shout out to the donors
or paying the fine for Pat Nardoozy. I'm sure he
I'm sure he has wanted to say that for years,
and I'm sure he has always has always has somebody
in the back pocket ready to drop the cast for
his for his cut for his comments that I am.
I'm happy that he got them out.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that.
Speaker 2: The ACC closed this manner without further discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And man, what we hadn't really got into that,
but you know, Dan mentioned it for sure. What a
great win for Pitt, you know, winning the backyard brawl.
That that is a team I'm not quite sure how
good they are, to be perfectly honest, They're a little
bit inconsistent on offense, and I'm not sure how much
I trust there. They're back seven on defense, who's kind
of prone to giving up big plays. But man, that
team has a ton of heart. That's two weeks in
a row, had double digit second half deficits against a
pretty decent competition. I think West Virginia is actually a
pretty good team. And for them to come back both
of those games, I mean great comebacks by by Pitt,
And I mean you can't ignore that because you know,
I think they're going to get better on the inconsistent
uh you know, and some of their inconsistent play, and
right now, that's a team that they can they believe
they can win no matter what the score is. So
hats off to Pitt on that win.
Speaker 3: There's one last thought on the officiating and Pat rdoozy
taking that taking that fine. I wish more ACC coaches
would do that, because I've seen enough bad officiating in
this league that needs to be called out. And at
this point with that, I l and these players getting
paid six digits like you might as well just take
the five thousand dollars, fine, get somebody to pay it,
and move on. But some of the some of these
this bad officiating doesn't need to be called out, and
I'm happy that Pat Nardizi did that.
Speaker 2: Amen, brother, Amen, Dan, thank you so much for joining
the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast and spending your Sunday
evening with us. We appreciated having you on the show
and we'd love to have you come on the show
again sometime. Thanks again for spending your Sunday evening with us.
Speaker 4: Dan awesome. Thanks, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All right, take care. I have a great week, guys,