Speaker 1: Bound you now and welcome to it with with the heavyweights.
Speaker 2: I'm is it John by Spin Chris Lucas Skywalker's Lucas
Speaker 2: Luke just Luke.
Speaker 1: That's why we call him Scott. Do you have people
Speaker 1: call you Lucas?
Speaker 3: My grandma wanted me to be named Lucas, but my
Speaker 3: mom was like, no, Lucas.
Speaker 4: Just the bell at the ball, you know, yeah, the
Speaker 4: bet at the ball, short and sweet.
Speaker 1: Thank you're tall and ugly? What up? Chat?
Speaker 2: What up did you guys? Watch MESSI lose? Choke fucking
Speaker 2: choke job.
Speaker 1: Joke job went to ot his old asses cooked.
Speaker 4: I mean it was a ton on one too. Spain
Speaker 4: Red Card Merchants haven't won a World Cup when they
Speaker 4: have been in full strength, needed the one man advantage
Speaker 4: both times they won the World Cup's defense fucking crazy
Speaker 4: Red Card Merchants their.
Speaker 5: Goalie, their goalie though for Argentina.
Speaker 4: Man I felt so bad, bro, he was Argentina, his
Speaker 4: goal he was going crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5: Guy deserves whatever.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 4: First left until three pm that day on Sunday, so
Speaker 4: I went out shout show Ryan last saw his new house.
Speaker 4: We were playing blackjack.
Speaker 1: It was funny.
Speaker 4: I went home lost like five bucks but uh, and
Speaker 4: then went to uh, went home, fell asleep. Woke up
Speaker 4: at eight am to a dmac butt call and he
Speaker 4: was like, buttle spinning go. Actually I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: went Bactually slept until three pm. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 4: the last time I slept that long. I guess I
Speaker 4: needed it.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good sleep.
Speaker 3: You know it was hibernating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt good, dude, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: I woke up.
Speaker 4: I was kind of pissed off because like I wanted
Speaker 4: to do something on Sunday.
Speaker 1: What just like I mean, I wanted to just supposed
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 4: Off to lunch with Shelby and I wanted to like
Speaker 4: put down more chapters than I did. But I just
Speaker 4: woke up. All I had time to do is fucking
Speaker 4: do my laundry, and then I was going over my
Speaker 4: dad's to watch House the Dragon. It sucks to just
Speaker 4: like waste the whole day sleeping like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially a Sunday because it starts to work a
Speaker 6: week and ran so like I like I was, I
Speaker 6: was having friends over like on Sunday because I was like,
Speaker 6: I want to just do something. So I got up
Speaker 6: early had some friends over like watch the watch the
Speaker 6: World Cup game and ship like, I hate wasting a
Speaker 6: Sunday when you just like, if you go too hard Saturday,
Speaker 6: you just waste the way Sunday.
Speaker 1: See outside the football season, there's no wasting a Sunday.
Speaker 1: If you're sleeping, you need that sleep.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Sunday's like my errand days that.
Speaker 2: I took a back half of my Sunday. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: tried to do.
Speaker 1: As minimal shit as possible on the weekends.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, that's me too, Na, Friday,
Speaker 3: Saturday is like the big stuff, and on Sundays just like.
Speaker 5: I like to just chills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I normally go grocery shopping, do laundry, clean the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I'll cut grass like cut grass sometimes got a service.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, we'll be.
Speaker 2: There's something that happened in the World Cup. I don't
Speaker 2: if we should talk about it or not, because I
Speaker 2: just don't want people to get whack in the chat
Speaker 2: this early into the show. But it was fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: I'll let the chat to say. If you guys will
Speaker 2: talk about it, you got promise not to argue with
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: The tired rest of the show. It's gonna happen. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Thought's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: I R fuck it, go ahead, put it up, put
Speaker 2: it put the World Cup photo. I think I only
Speaker 2: said one in there, all right, yep, so we can't
Speaker 2: play the actual footage of the World Cup. But the
Speaker 2: photo shopped him out like that Spain photo shopped Donnie
Speaker 2: Trump out of the photo. The entire time he was
Speaker 2: up there, he was trying right next to him. He
Speaker 2: did it right next to him. He grabbed the trophy
Speaker 2: from the head of FIFA like hand it to him.
Speaker 2: That people like, all right, I guess we're like awkwardly
Speaker 2: carrying this together, this little ass trophy, and they tried sticking.
Speaker 1: Around for the photo. It was. It was funny. It
Speaker 1: was fun I wish you could play show you the film.
Speaker 5: But actually that ship was funny.
Speaker 6: When I was watching the game and they show him
Speaker 6: like up in the press box with like the FIFA guy,
Speaker 6: which I thought was Jeff Bezos, and I got calm
Speaker 6: for I thought he was Jeff Bezos, the guy's next
Speaker 6: to next to Trump. Yeah, I thought that ball the
Speaker 6: white like alien. We could do with Jeff Bezos. But anyways,
Speaker 6: I watched Trump, like they like bring up the trophy
Speaker 6: and he's like, oh, it's nice.
Speaker 5: He just like taps. It's just like his manners.
Speaker 4: Crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so awkward, so funny, just across the stage
Speaker 1: a little. It's a pretty awkward video. It's so awkward.
Speaker 2: He like the photo shopped them out of the picture,
Speaker 2: them in there, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 6: Right, it's like, yeah, what's the point though, something like
Speaker 6: that big of a scale, like you know that, like
Speaker 6: it actually is going to exist out there with him,
Speaker 6: with him in it. Like it'd be one thing if
Speaker 6: you weren't like famous or whatever and you were like
Speaker 6: just trying to like photo shop somebody, like say, like
Speaker 6: you were trying to pull shot one of your friends
Speaker 6: out of like a picture or whatever. Like then it
Speaker 6: makes sense because the world can go on seeing that
Speaker 6: picture not knowing the truth. But it's like everybody knows
Speaker 6: that's embarrassing.
Speaker 3: What's like a Trump platform? Truth?
Speaker 1: Truth?
Speaker 3: He like blowing up on that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we should I'm curious.
Speaker 3: I feel like he would be.
Speaker 4: So my brother asked me if I had blue He's like,
Speaker 4: you should, you should make a blue Sky account?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, my grinder, Yeah, no thing am I doing?
Speaker 1: I made one. Yeah, I don't use it though.
Speaker 3: What's blue Sky?
Speaker 1: It's like lip li Twitter. Yeah, the worst place ever
Speaker 1: if you use a sixth stage bell.
Speaker 5: I saw. I saw hats last night, blue guy.
Speaker 4: I get those.
Speaker 1: It's Spain. It's like it's like it's a country thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you're not. It's funny so much. Ship in
Speaker 1: the next can't try to get off the stage.
Speaker 2: He's fucking randomly like Spain is two weeks away from
Speaker 2: an Nucleus.
Speaker 1: Ship out of Spain, and that's funny.
Speaker 2: Are we doing a segment on Ward Man? I don't
Speaker 2: give a I don't really care.
Speaker 1: Am I the only one doesn't give a fuck? Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 2: I get maybe because it's slow news cycle ever kept
Speaker 2: talking about it last week.
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship. Yeah, I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I wish.
Speaker 4: I mean there, we all know that there was a
Speaker 4: bunch of gross cheating going on in there. Everybody that's
Speaker 4: been attached to that fucking championship's gone now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only a.
Speaker 4: Matter of time until Wardmanuel was also wrapped up in it.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't care. He won two championships for the school.
Speaker 4: I saw people talking about him on the way out.
Speaker 2: I was like, you guys are ridiculous, by the way,
Speaker 2: not fired, he's stepping down, just like the following the season.
Speaker 4: But my thing, with my calendar year, i'd take ward
Speaker 4: Manuel Michigan State, sure, heartbeat.
Speaker 6: The thing I can't the thing I can't like get
Speaker 6: to care about this is that Michigan has shown time
Speaker 6: and time again they'll make a terrible higher and then
Speaker 6: they'll imediately make the best hire ever and they'll follow
Speaker 6: it with the worst hire. So like it's like it's like, look,
Speaker 6: whatever coaching staff, whatever, you know, organizational member they lose
Speaker 6: in their athletic department, they're just gonna. They're just gonna
Speaker 6: with their endless bag. They're gonna eventually get the right person.
Speaker 4: And super chating there from Adam from the D time,
Speaker 4: he says, yeah, let's take our Q from Spain, which
Speaker 4: is run by Spanish Socialist Workers Party Blue Skies for Hella.
Speaker 6: Chris is, Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Remember that Twitter is successful?
Speaker 4: Is Twitter is accessible?
Speaker 1: It's very entertaining.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Twitter, Twitter's bad place.
Speaker 1: Part of a tweets.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of porn on Twitter. The craziest
Speaker 2: trend in Twitter. I don't know if it's still a thing.
Speaker 2: Spinny took part of it. When people just post photos
Speaker 2: themselves so they have a good day out shopping. The
Speaker 2: mom and some horny motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Got me into some trouble. But you know you picture
Speaker 1: of Brad, he was cool, Yeah, he's cool with it.
Speaker 1: Well what I was? What if you leaned over after?
Speaker 1: Then he was like, I'm wearing I've got what you
Speaker 1: want to see. Uh yeah, No. Twitter's crazy place full
Speaker 1: crazy people.
Speaker 4: That's why I love it.
Speaker 2: Derek Carps. Social media is not real life fun fact
Speaker 2: which Instagram comments are in real life. Wish I remembered
Speaker 2: what operation was. But like there's like ninety percent of
Speaker 2: the Internet is bots. Yeah, no ship half the ship
Speaker 2: you see his bots? Internet arguing with that, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: and they're just they're set there to like drive interactions,
Speaker 2: start arguments, be divisive. Remember that next ting me argue
Speaker 2: somebody with no profile picture or profile picture of like
Speaker 2: messy or some shit you say, like like Kirby Joseph.
Speaker 1: It's not a person. It's probably not a person.
Speaker 3: Do you guys like comment on Instagram posts and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, Like, yeah, I got some cy I never
Speaker 3: ever ever comment on like, I really do know.
Speaker 4: I my favorite part of social media is Instagram in
Speaker 4: real comment section.
Speaker 1: Dude, they are so funny. Man. It ship is awesome, Dude.
Speaker 4: I love it and it makes me laugh every time
Speaker 4: I go to the go right to the reels, go
Speaker 4: right to the comments.
Speaker 1: They're fucking hilarious.
Speaker 6: It made it made me, it made me somebody that
Speaker 6: now Like now I'm starting to comment on Instagram bros.
Speaker 6: Because it's just like, dude, the comment section is where
Speaker 6: is where it goes every time?
Speaker 1: Sections are funny.
Speaker 3: Can I see one of his comments that around? Unfollowing?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 1: I do know.
Speaker 3: I need to see that ship? What is that?
Speaker 5: Some boomers?
Speaker 1: Shit? I'm sorry, I'm looking it up, so I give
Speaker 1: you guys the name of it? Is that just some
Speaker 1: guy got hacked? I'll find it for you. At some
Speaker 1: point during.
Speaker 4: The show, did you see Mike Clay changed his mind? Yes, dude,
Speaker 4: this is why bullying should be a thing. Bullying works,
Speaker 4: Take it from me. Look at Mike Clay. He got
Speaker 4: bullied out of a stupid take. If you say something stupid,
Speaker 4: you should get bullied for it. And Mike Clay got
Speaker 4: bullied by it by Lions fans, and he changed at
Speaker 4: You know, this is the guy that ranked Penna sul
Speaker 4: seventeenth amongst offensive tackles in the NFL based on the
Speaker 4: system of bullshit that he created to rank offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: And he got chastised by Lions fans, by pretty much
Speaker 4: anybody who's ever watched football, and he was getting dragged
Speaker 4: on the internet. I wanted his arm I wanted his
Speaker 4: arm as pennants, but we didn't get it. But the
Speaker 4: bullying worked because we changed his mind. He changed the
Speaker 4: systems rating. Christ you have his tweet where he said
Speaker 4: what he changed. Yeah, it's just the tweet. I didn't
Speaker 4: the whole The thing was an awful mess to look at.
Speaker 4: So I didn't even want to take a picture of
Speaker 4: the chart. But here he said, updated twenty twenty six
Speaker 4: NFL Offensive Line projected starters. The Ethan Poeck is much
Speaker 4: needed to add at the rave blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Formula adjusted formula adjusted to just better for position as
Speaker 4: it pertains the pass block win rate and run block
Speaker 4: win rate. And he had Penna Sewel ranked third amongst
Speaker 4: offensive tackles when he fixed it. When he fixed it.
Speaker 2: See, man, why do you spend time? Are you in
Speaker 2: it like an asshole?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like the moment that you make a fucking system whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call this, formula, algorithm, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, and you see Pinna soals ranked seventeenth.
Speaker 2: I would not publish that. No, immediately, you have to
Speaker 2: know that system is flushed.
Speaker 1: Something's wrong with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like okay, if you don't have one shirt fine
Speaker 2: seventeenth seventeenth, you published that you deserve to get bullyed
Speaker 2: the way you did. Yeah, you had to come and
Speaker 2: here you are correct, and you were in the fucking
Speaker 2: common section argument calling minusman's dumbasses and shit like Mike Clay, Dude,
Speaker 2: you're a fucking tool, honestly terrible journalism.
Speaker 3: And also like him, backtracking on it is just the
Speaker 3: most spineless thing I swear you could possibly do. I
Speaker 3: feel like he's only gonna get more hate, like if
Speaker 3: you would have just like you know, stood with it
Speaker 3: and like been a dumb ass, Like Okay, you're a
Speaker 3: dumb ass, but now you're just like Tower Yeah.
Speaker 4: Tower, Yeah, burned with the super chances we outed that
Speaker 4: one armed Eagles fan. He he does have both arms
Speaker 4: for now. But his uh, his cohort doesn't. He lost
Speaker 4: his arm. So that's what I'm saying. Mike Clay deserves losing.
Speaker 1: Arm for that.
Speaker 4: Adam from the d with the Super Chances. If you
Speaker 4: see Mike claim Detroit, you best believe I'm giving him
Speaker 4: a muppet.
Speaker 1: Look it up. I can.
Speaker 4: I can assume based on what muppets are, what that means.
Speaker 2: Uh. I found it if you guys want to look
Speaker 2: at this later at some point. But his name is
Speaker 2: Aaron Barr. He publicly claimed to have infiltrated Anonymous. He's
Speaker 2: working with the FBI and like set up security for
Speaker 2: the Internet. Anonymous is like, oh oh, oh.
Speaker 1: You got us hacked. His ship leaked.
Speaker 2: All his ship included his emails with the FBI that
Speaker 2: revealed a program where they were making software to make
Speaker 2: fake fucking profiles. Oh yeah, you'll put out disinformation to
Speaker 2: start arguments like that the fucking government.
Speaker 1: Yep, like crazy shit. Look it up.
Speaker 4: Look it up, and remember, we do not promote sexual
Speaker 4: gratification or violence in any way. All we say and
Speaker 4: do is in a satirical and comedic format. Don't sue us.
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Speaker 5: We have.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you for every state.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's just a special one. We should see.
Speaker 1: There's one from Michigan. Michigan pipeline. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there is.
Speaker 4: Burn With the super Chat, he says, I get the
Speaker 4: government making bots for government things. But why did they
Speaker 4: need to make fake Cowboy fanbots? Is Dak a FED?
Speaker 2: That's a great question, That's a good question for such
Speaker 2: a good question. I do agree Dak is probably a
Speaker 2: FED as well. Speak of feds run up numbers. See
Speaker 2: Detroy lines have fourteen million dollars left the cast.
Speaker 4: For fourteen million.
Speaker 2: You got to talk to the man himself, Brad Holmes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he said he's still making some moves. They did make
Speaker 2: moves for wide receivers from the XFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Eatroe Lions will do anything with
Speaker 2: that fourteen million dollars this offseason?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I don't. They won't. It's like that's what they do.
Speaker 4: They like to have that little break glass in case
Speaker 4: of emergency fund and one might think your starting cornerback
Speaker 4: going to jail and being released would be enough emergency
Speaker 4: to break the glass. But it seems like no, they're
Speaker 4: waiting for the apocalypse and then maybe they'll pay for
Speaker 4: another defensive player. I don't know. I sure would think, Hey,
Speaker 4: this guy that was supposed to start from you or
Speaker 4: start for your defense, which was already missing a lot
Speaker 4: of pieces and already a question mark.
Speaker 1: Is going to jail.
Speaker 4: Might you want to spend some of your rainy day fund?
Speaker 4: But they haven't yet. Well they did, are you right
Speaker 4: on a on a wide receiver. No, they're probably going
Speaker 4: to sit on upwards of ten million dollars for the
Speaker 4: rest of the season. That's what they do for some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't even, I don't even. They did this last
Speaker 1: year too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, when when you're about to make you missed the playoffs.
Speaker 9: If not making the playoffs is an excuse to spend
Speaker 9: this ten million dollar buffer, I'm.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like that where one player could have made
Speaker 4: the difference, you could like you were one player away
Speaker 4: from winning the game or two which would have put
Speaker 4: you in the playoffs. And we know that they like
Speaker 4: to have this little I don't know, this little parachute
Speaker 4: just for fun, Like they're just skydiving without pulling it
Speaker 4: every year, Well aren't they always?
Speaker 6: Aren't They always technically using it by rolling it over
Speaker 6: to help their cap space the next year technically yeah,
Speaker 6: but they had out of time. But yeah, but now,
Speaker 6: but now this one where where I won't I won't
Speaker 6: trip out about them is last year was forty million,
Speaker 6: forty fucking million this year, it's fourteen, so I think,
Speaker 6: you know, by this rate, next year we'll have we'll
Speaker 6: have two million dollars a cass space like I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it's I think it's something I can't get
Speaker 6: mad at because they rolled over, and they rolled over,
Speaker 6: and it seems like there's less cap space this time around.
Speaker 6: So I guess I can't really trip about it because
Speaker 6: it's just gonna be the way this organization operates.
Speaker 4: I kind of can't trip about it not gonna lie
Speaker 4: because you're losing out on good players over a couple
Speaker 4: million dollars and you just have that as a buffer.
Speaker 1: Every year.
Speaker 4: You lost out on Carlton Davis over DJ Reid over
Speaker 4: what a three million dollar difference? Yeah, Angeloney was a
Speaker 4: couple million dollars more than you were willing to pay.
Speaker 4: Derek Barnes, and obviously David Montgomery. I mean his was
Speaker 4: more of a wanting to the guy type of thing.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6: But this is this is my question back to you,
Speaker 6: and I know you can't answer the spencer. I'm just
Speaker 6: asking it to be fair, is okay. I don't know
Speaker 6: how this works, but I know with with the ability
Speaker 6: to roll over the cap. Like, who's to say that
Speaker 6: because they rolled over they rolled over that cap last
Speaker 6: year that this year they wouldn't have made some of
Speaker 6: those other free agent on the margin acquisitions.
Speaker 5: I mean maybe they could have done it without. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm just throwing that out there as a as a possibility,
Speaker 6: Like you look at guys like I won't say Kid
Speaker 6: Mays because obviously you are going to address the center position,
Speaker 6: but maybe if you didn't roll over the cap, maybe
Speaker 6: they were gonna address that in a cheaper option.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm just spitballing here of like potential ideas where you
Speaker 6: could possibly flip it to But.
Speaker 4: You still have like you've got those guys now, and
Speaker 4: you've got the fourteen million dollars. I you, uh, your
Speaker 4: starting cornerback is not on this team anymore. I would
Speaker 4: rather use that money need to get a starting cornerback
Speaker 4: this year when you have the potential to win the
Speaker 4: NFC North and make a run in the playoffs, then
Speaker 4: maybe spend it on somebody in free agency next year
Speaker 4: when it rolls over.
Speaker 1: See, I didn't view Terry On as a starting cornerback.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 2: I think that's why they were talking about moving him
Speaker 2: to the Nickels spot. I had this conversation with him.
Speaker 2: They had this conversation with him. We played the video
Speaker 2: where he was putting on the weight. I always thought
Speaker 2: it was probably gonna end up being DJ reading Rock
Speaker 2: Your Scene, because as much as you invested in Terry
Speaker 2: and Doronold in the first round pick, he never give
Speaker 2: you first round pick production.
Speaker 1: In fact, rock your Scene.
Speaker 2: I'll performed him last year and was available more often too,
Speaker 2: So I think they're not really tripping on like, oh,
Speaker 2: we got to go find another starting cornerback, because I
Speaker 2: don't know that Terry was ever slowed to be that
Speaker 2: starting cornerback.
Speaker 1: But it did get frustrated last year when there was needs.
Speaker 2: It does get frustrated every year when there's need at
Speaker 2: the S positions. Specifically, Hopefully Derek Moore ends up being
Speaker 2: that for you that you don't need to go spend
Speaker 2: that money this year.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not really pressed for it until like a pinpoint
Speaker 2: a piece, I'm like, we should go sign that guy,
Speaker 2: like we need him here right now.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's been pieces though in free agency that,
Speaker 3: like we could have gone out and just like acquired
Speaker 3: like I think about like Trent McDuffie, Like I would
Speaker 3: have loved to have him as our starting cornerback or
Speaker 3: anybody like that, And it's just, you know, we talk
Speaker 3: about rolling it over next year, but we missed the
Speaker 3: playoffs this past season. What are we waiting for at
Speaker 3: this point? Like I saw someone say, like it's it's
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or bus time almost in Detroit, you know,
Speaker 3: and so like, yeah, you have to just say fuck it,
Speaker 3: We're all in because it's now or never, you know.
Speaker 2: I just the thing with Trim mcdodge, I would trust me.
Speaker 2: I love Trim mc duffie too. That also, you have
Speaker 2: to give up draft cap what I'm saying, they traded
Speaker 2: for him and then signed him.
Speaker 1: Plus we we've paid so many people now I don't
Speaker 1: know we could ford to go grab anybody like that, Like, well.
Speaker 4: You got fourteen million dollars to go to nobody, so
Speaker 4: you can afford somebody. You can get an impact player
Speaker 4: for fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 2: The messed up part two is that that's probably also
Speaker 2: gonna roll over the next year because of Branch Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Are you resigned U.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, like the Yeah, it's not even
Speaker 6: gonna be like maybe next year we'll get him.
Speaker 5: It's not even gonna be money.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 6: I think that's part of why like they rolled over
Speaker 6: last year is because Goff's big Is it this the year?
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can. I don't think you can
Speaker 4: exist in the NFL on a contender level taking that
Speaker 4: big of a chunk of your salary cap and allocating
Speaker 4: it towards next season every year. I don't think that's something.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can exist like that. I think
Speaker 4: you need to spend every dollar you have on players
Speaker 4: to help you win that year. I mean, you can exist,
Speaker 4: but not well, you're not gonna exist with where you
Speaker 4: want to. And this is what I said last year.
Speaker 4: You guys killed me for I said, Brad Holmes.
Speaker 2: Ist nes serious about winning a championship as a guy
Speaker 2: like Hoyey Roseman, because you're not taking the extra steps
Speaker 2: to do so, you're not doing this stuff.
Speaker 4: The part that.
Speaker 2: Hurts the worst, to be honest, with the fact that
Speaker 2: he stems from that RAMS organization.
Speaker 1: Who did it. They did it.
Speaker 2: They they went all in and it is successfully did
Speaker 2: it again. It's like, Okay, I thought you had that
Speaker 2: bone in your body and you come from that tree
Speaker 2: Howie Rose was doing. They did a successfully, They've won
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. It comes to point too, which I
Speaker 2: also understand where the money is now. You're kind of
Speaker 2: fucking stuck. There ain't much room to work with no
Speaker 2: matter what you do until you know, I hate saying
Speaker 2: it this way, but until Martha passes and you're able
Speaker 2: to sell some private equity stock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the team, No, you're right.
Speaker 6: That's where I was gonna point to, is like the
Speaker 6: ownership part of it, Like, does that not tell you
Speaker 6: that it's that it's more if not partially ownership.
Speaker 5: That's that. That's it.
Speaker 6: I know we've had this discussion, Sir tis about for sure,
Speaker 6: like and we and we've all agreed that there's parts
Speaker 6: where Brad Holmes could have been aggressive, uh you know,
Speaker 6: even especially on the trade market. But I just feel
Speaker 6: like with this role over cap, I agree with what
Speaker 6: Spencer saying. I don't think you can look at the NFL,
Speaker 6: the sport that I think of all professional sports, the
Speaker 6: margins matter the most in the NFL. You and you
Speaker 6: can't you can't leave anything.
Speaker 4: You have to be all in every year in the
Speaker 4: NFL if you actually want to win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: because your entire franchise can change in one snap. Your
Speaker 4: entire trajectory can change in one snap. So if you
Speaker 4: have an opportunity, if you have a window to where
Speaker 4: you've got all this talent, you can't be pussy footing
Speaker 4: through a window. You have to be all in because
Speaker 4: you never know when the window's gonna close, and they
Speaker 4: can close fast. So to sit on thirty million dollars
Speaker 4: like they did last year or another fifteen million dollars
Speaker 4: this year, man.
Speaker 1: But I get it. They needed it. They need that
Speaker 1: money to resign these guys.
Speaker 4: They needed that money to not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And I think this year the difference with last year.
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, last year, that's a lot
Speaker 2: of money. I feel like you could have like maybe
Speaker 2: maneuvered something. Maybe last year they also understood this teammate't
Speaker 2: built to go. They didn't have a center, they didn't
Speaker 2: have an offensive line worth a dick.
Speaker 5: They changed two coordinators because they were sitting.
Speaker 1: Forty million dollars. But then again, you need that money
Speaker 1: to resign.
Speaker 2: Jack can't be you love so much the money to
Speaker 2: resign Jam Gibson, Mney hold out Sam Laport of Brian Brand.
Speaker 6: Like, I guess that's kind of my issue with it
Speaker 6: is my my issue.
Speaker 1: You lose those guys you still want in the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Take a shot, Yeah, that's my That's kind of my
Speaker 6: issue with it is that is that this role over
Speaker 6: the cap seems to be going to their guys to
Speaker 6: their contracts that they to that that they signed, rather
Speaker 6: than like getting that extra piece where I think other
Speaker 6: NFL franchise are looking at, this is my opportunity to
Speaker 6: go get this player that does that does X for me.
Speaker 6: And I think that's where the frustration part is for
Speaker 6: Detroit Lions fans because you're looking at a situation where
Speaker 6: Brad Holmes does have some type of ability to to
Speaker 6: move to maneuver and make some moves, but he is
Speaker 6: looking at keeping his own guys in And it goes
Speaker 6: back to that whole you know those two words that
Speaker 6: we hate around here. It's sustained success approach.
Speaker 2: And I the reason I'm not tripping on Alex to
Speaker 2: understand the money is needed to maintain these all pro
Speaker 2: players you have in your roster now, twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: is when I was tripping out when you had these
Speaker 2: all pro players and rookie contracts, and that's why that's
Speaker 2: when I had my crash out and you guys called
Speaker 2: me an asshole for it, and then I love you
Speaker 2: boot over.
Speaker 1: You guys opened up the booter path. Oh we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it either way. No, like this is a fucking
Speaker 1: time to do it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, one of those first round picks
Speaker 2: to one of the second round pick three.
Speaker 1: The fucking third round. You did nothing with them, Tesla.
Speaker 2: Probably that the best return you got at all that
Speaker 2: shit Terry donld is Michael to prison.
Speaker 1: You could have traded that and got an edge rusher.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just and.
Speaker 2: Not even Chase Young went for a third round pick,
Speaker 2: my man from Chicago who ended up going to what
Speaker 2: montest sweat second round pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying, it's not. These aren't first round
Speaker 1: picks usually get these extra edge rushers. You had a team.
Speaker 2: Ready to go, and you can say everything you wanted
Speaker 2: by the defense in twenty twenty three, it was causing turnovers,
Speaker 2: it was getting to the quarterback they had you then
Speaker 2: MC Conference championship game.
Speaker 1: Have you had one more edge rusher.
Speaker 2: There's Rock Perrie scooting out for those fucking fifteen yard games.
Speaker 2: You talk about the fourth down side, for sure, those happened.
Speaker 2: And Jamior gives fumbled that happened too. Like if you
Speaker 2: had one extra guy defense, maybe he's closing up Rock
Speaker 2: pretty and sacking them or force another interception of Malcolm Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: This is that was your time to make these moves.
Speaker 2: Now your situation where I can completely understand you're not
Speaker 2: spending them money because you need it to maintain the
Speaker 2: team that you have now, which is really good.
Speaker 1: You've got to hope these guys work out. You see
Speaker 1: a draft, well is what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a nail on the couff in the last
Speaker 5: couple of years.
Speaker 1: This is the draft.
Speaker 4: Yeah that that's what it comes back to, is this
Speaker 4: is the route they've chosen to build this team, and
Speaker 4: this is the route that they've taken is drafting, develop
Speaker 4: him and paying their guys. And you went an entire
Speaker 4: draft without getting a single starter and you can't do that,
Speaker 4: Like it's it's not fair to to four. You know,
Speaker 4: you go four for four with your first four picks
Speaker 4: to get four all pros, Like, you can't expect that
Speaker 4: every time. But if this is the route you're taking,
Speaker 4: you cannot go an entire draft without getting a start.
Speaker 4: You can't or it'll tank your team.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And if you're looking at the point, you use that
Speaker 2: draft assets to go get a start. Yes, I've been
Speaker 2: I've never really tripped off the free agency. I've tripped
Speaker 2: off the trades because it's always been there. Every single
Speaker 2: fucking year, an affordable trade was made, whether it be
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips Chase you know. I mean, I go down
Speaker 2: the line every fucking year. I would have give up
Speaker 2: a third round pick every single time for one of
Speaker 2: those guys. And the fact that Chase Young were for
Speaker 2: a conditional third round pick like one that you got
Speaker 2: after the third round was over, and then they got
Speaker 2: it back, and then they got it back because he
Speaker 2: signed a big deal with the Ones next year, just
Speaker 2: what hoyr Rols was doing the same thing with Jaylen Phillips,
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't make no fucking sense to do. I
Speaker 2: don't understand that free agency. Yes, I understand the ownership.
Speaker 2: I've been the one telling you guys this for two
Speaker 2: years We ain't cast rich. We don't got bred like
Speaker 2: the Eagles. You don't got bread like the Rams. The
Speaker 2: four family only owns two percent of fucking four. We
Speaker 2: don't got the money like that.
Speaker 1: Bro five broke. We ain't got it, ain't got it.
Speaker 4: It just is what it is.
Speaker 1: But trading you can do.
Speaker 2: That's not costing you extra money. You're not digging in
Speaker 2: your pockets to do that. You're just giving up draft
Speaker 2: ass sense for the trades we make. God bless them.
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna be good. Are for your
Speaker 2: wide receiver?
Speaker 4: Three?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Your fifth option on the offense.
Speaker 2: And then I get called an asshole because you guys,
Speaker 2: and I get it your fans, I get it.
Speaker 1: God bless you. But he's your fifth option.
Speaker 2: You got Gibbs perform the porter, perform sat before him,
Speaker 2: jam will befo him.
Speaker 1: Your fifth option on the offense. You gave with three
Speaker 1: third round picks for in capital.
Speaker 2: Make it make sense, especially with your defense is continue
Speaker 2: to struggle year in year out, eight hunches yet to
Speaker 2: have a fucking legitimate as Russia opposite of him, not
Speaker 2: once in his fucking career. I count maybe one and
Speaker 2: a half games of Marcus to haveport if you consider
Speaker 2: him legit.
Speaker 1: It's just that's the shit that pisses me off.
Speaker 2: That's why I get upset the trade market, franc See,
Speaker 2: whatever people gon hit franchy to make a bag, you're
Speaker 2: never gonna get a good deal off free agency. Oh
Speaker 2: Brad hasn't made a few, But what we're talking about
Speaker 2: a couple of times, a couple of times where he's
Speaker 2: made trades for like impact players.
Speaker 4: Now it's worked out, Like he traded for that worked.
Speaker 4: He traded for Carlton Davis, that worked. I don't know
Speaker 4: why he stopped. Maybe he got too proud of what
Speaker 4: he could do in the draft, but I just yeah, man,
Speaker 4: it sucks.
Speaker 6: Do you guys have hope that he can change, like
Speaker 6: realistic help?
Speaker 1: Like can you talk? We're cooked now? We're cooked now.
Speaker 1: Too much money in the books. It ain't changing.
Speaker 4: You're not getting an impact player outside of guys that
Speaker 4: you draft for the rest of like the Lion's existence.
Speaker 4: Like this with this corps, you are not trading for
Speaker 4: or signing impact players in the off seat is not
Speaker 4: gonna happen. All of your money's gonna be wrapped up
Speaker 4: in your court, which it should be, but like.
Speaker 1: You had the opportunity we's.
Speaker 2: Got how Jared Goff's everything stick says he is curiously
Speaker 2: promise you his.
Speaker 3: Deal alone is fucking this team over.
Speaker 1: Like I told he's a great, great deal. Was discounting
Speaker 1: mark to market.
Speaker 2: That's why I was told top three guy, discount the
Speaker 2: market ninth Uh, Anakin, you all want Brad Holmes fired
Speaker 2: like a bunch of drunk idiots. The only drunk idiot
Speaker 2: is a person who listened everything we said and heard
Speaker 2: the words we want Brad Holmes fire.
Speaker 1: Anakin's cousin. Sorry, drunk ass, What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 1: No one said that, ain't no skywill fed for sure
Speaker 1: fed off the fence with that one. Were doing it.
Speaker 1: But we'll be the playoffs this year. Like I think
Speaker 1: they're selling tickets at this point. Man, they ain't get
Speaker 1: no super Bowl.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be in the playoffs tickets when they win
Speaker 2: the division.
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance we don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I mean we have an easy schedule, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: how like valid can you take that?
Speaker 1: Though? Like we have a valut as ship man? The
Speaker 1: way I'm feeling, I mean.
Speaker 3: You have no idea how any team is going to
Speaker 3: perform this year, Like, realistically.
Speaker 5: We got two question marks. That coordinator still.
Speaker 4: Super chat from Burn. I am definitely not out on Brad,
Speaker 4: but I am getting a bad feeling in my gut.
Speaker 4: Brad won't be the one who sees the Core win
Speaker 4: a super Bowl if it happens, I think. I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd fire Brad again, like he's
Speaker 4: giving them the most success they've ever had.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm comfortable with that either.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want Brad fired, no way, not at all.
Speaker 2: I guess, Chris, I can't say, you know, maybe it
Speaker 2: could change. The trading part could change, because again that's
Speaker 2: not like digging in your pockets and grab more money
Speaker 2: out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: You can still make a trade midseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like this was the year to make a trade.
Speaker 3: This offseason was the time to make a trade, and
Speaker 3: like we did nothing. Like what's the point when you
Speaker 3: know another year goes by and like our windows just closing,
Speaker 3: Like we didn't make the playoffs last season, they see
Speaker 3: that they're in there, like do something. It's the same
Speaker 3: with It's the same with the Pistons like, just do
Speaker 3: something if and Grant, I understand some money issue, but
Speaker 3: if the ram can go and get you know, Miles.
Speaker 4: Garrett and two starting cornerbacks like what.
Speaker 1: Are we doing?
Speaker 3: Just do something and.
Speaker 1: Guess what we got there their scraps Roger McCreary, like,
Speaker 1: we'll pick it up.
Speaker 3: It's almost like they're content with how we did in
Speaker 3: the playoffs after our long drought and they're like, well
Speaker 3: we made it that far. Like the Lions are viewed as,
Speaker 3: you know, a contender now, like I think the front
Speaker 3: of my job, you know, So like they I mean,
Speaker 3: they're they're getting paid. They don't really care at this point.
Speaker 3: It's just like, come on, you gotta.
Speaker 6: Especially though, I think that's what it is because when
Speaker 6: you look at how much revenue this Lions team has
Speaker 6: brought them and how we talk about consistently that this
Speaker 6: isn't one of the cash rich teams in the NFL.
Speaker 6: So I think that they're looking at this situation like
Speaker 6: they need to, you know, they need to maximize this
Speaker 6: window because because what they're in now is there. You know,
Speaker 6: they're they're a business. They're a business operating on the
Speaker 6: margins like you know like they're they're not. They're not
Speaker 6: in this position that all of these other that all
Speaker 6: these other NFL teams are like that own Walmart or
Speaker 6: anything like that, and they can and they can just throw
Speaker 6: whatever money.
Speaker 1: Girth Brooks with super Chat nice says swap Steve I
Speaker 1: with Brad.
Speaker 4: No, nobody wants Brad gone, but nobody we I mean,
Speaker 4: we made pretty obvious that you have to change some
Speaker 4: philosophies on all all levels. Whether we looked at Brad
Speaker 4: Dan and Calvin Sheppard about needing to change philosophies about
Speaker 4: the way you do business if you actually want to
Speaker 4: compete to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Bruno loves i Pa says Brad doing everything he can
Speaker 2: within the reason he might hold back too much, but
Speaker 2: is he being directed to do that? Lion's making money
Speaker 2: either way, we all buying the merch and going to games. No, Brune,
Speaker 2: I'm with you, And I think Robert Jones said too.
Speaker 2: And I've been saying this for two years now, like
Speaker 2: we you'll never see a big fags he returned for
Speaker 2: the deach your lines, especially not now with the money
Speaker 2: they've tied up. And I can understand that being directed
Speaker 2: to be the case like I don't want to spend
Speaker 2: money as Sheila, I'm not trying to spend more money
Speaker 2: in the teae right now.
Speaker 1: Go get the super Bowl I gave you.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't stop you from trading draft picks though
Speaker 2: then that's always be yeah bad. Doesn't stop you from
Speaker 2: trading your three third round picks for fucking Miles my
Speaker 2: Mimi MOUs. You're not getting Miles Gating for three third
Speaker 2: round picks like something. What I'm saying, go get an
Speaker 2: edge rusher. Let's not stop you from making a move
Speaker 2: in the trade market, stop you from raisy for sure.
Speaker 2: The trade market, you can make a work all day,
Speaker 2: even on a contract one year are minting when you
Speaker 2: make that trade of that season that player's contract, if
Speaker 2: everything is guaranteed that year or guaranteed in the rest
Speaker 2: of his contract, the team that's trading them is still
Speaker 2: paying all that they pay the guaranteed money, you get
Speaker 2: everything else that's promised.
Speaker 1: So you're getting that play on our discount. We make
Speaker 1: the trade.
Speaker 6: And I just want to say this, when it comes
Speaker 6: to Bradhwles, to be perfect clear, I think it would
Speaker 6: be a stupid decision, especially right now, to fire, to
Speaker 6: fire Brad Holmes or to be calling for his job,
Speaker 6: because look the way we're talking about this now, they're
Speaker 6: locked into a certain route. They have built the route
Speaker 6: where they are going to be capped out because they're
Speaker 6: keeping their core and they are going to have to
Speaker 6: invest in the draft. And Brad Holmes, he has had
Speaker 6: some misses in the previous drafts, but he also so
Speaker 6: overall we think he is a great drafter.
Speaker 4: But that's like what he's he saying, Like, would you
Speaker 4: rather have a draft pick at fucking twenty two every
Speaker 4: year that might not even be a very good player?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, or like.
Speaker 4: Use that to get a guy like that? Would you
Speaker 4: rather have Terry on Arnold or ty and Tyler Williams
Speaker 4: and and and Blake Miller or Miles Garrett, Like these
Speaker 4: first round picks and these second round picks aren't you
Speaker 4: can't be holding on to those because like that's what
Speaker 4: you built.
Speaker 1: No, you haven't built.
Speaker 4: You don't need more, Like you don't need another twenty
Speaker 4: year old that's gonna take two years to become an
Speaker 4: actual player. You need a real player right now that'll
Speaker 4: put you over the top.
Speaker 6: No, See, I'm I'm not saying I'm not saying that
Speaker 6: I'm with you full full stop on trading draft picks,
Speaker 6: but I'm saying I'm saying that it would be it
Speaker 6: would be not a smart move by the organization to
Speaker 6: fire bradhause when you because what's a new g I'm
Speaker 6: gonna do right now that Brad that Brad really can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not grapd firing Brad yees anytime soon. That's
Speaker 1: not gonna have. Yeah. No, I don't even want a
Speaker 1: new GM. I like Brad. Yeah, I just want Brad.
Speaker 6: Just well, I'm saying it's even in my opinion, it's
Speaker 6: even extra it's it's even extra dumb to make that,
Speaker 6: to make that decision right now when you're in this
Speaker 6: space where you don't have flexibility, you know what I mean. So, like,
Speaker 6: what is the new GM that's going to come in
Speaker 6: and say, like we're gonna do different around here? Now?
Speaker 6: Are you gonna draft better or like make trades? I
Speaker 6: guess with draft picks like I don't, it'd be really
Speaker 6: foolish to consider firing Brad Holmes right now given the
Speaker 6: state that your roster is.
Speaker 5: And that's my point. I'm with you guys, full stop.
Speaker 4: I don't think nobody is really saying I.
Speaker 5: Know we are. I'm just putting it for the chat.
Speaker 3: I don't know by the time that like Brad, like
Speaker 3: we do call for his firing. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like the team will be in a position where we
Speaker 3: have a losing record and we're gonna be valuing those
Speaker 3: draft picks much more than where we are right now.
Speaker 3: Because the only way I see Brad really getting fired
Speaker 3: is if I mean we're like, you know, bottom of.
Speaker 1: The he's not getting bradhime just not getting fired.
Speaker 4: Let's stop talking about that, because nobody's even saying it
Speaker 4: in the chat, and so I just don't want to
Speaker 4: put that narrative out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to come here.
Speaker 2: That's why I wish I'm going to Calvin staying next
Speaker 2: year for sure. I hope braz there again. I'm stealing
Speaker 2: interview this thing because the one question when I asked him,
Speaker 2: like what happened twenty twenty three, because they're the kind
Speaker 2: of pissed in that press conference coming back from it.
Speaker 2: It was fresh off the it was like at four
Speaker 2: or five and he hit that podium. He seems like
Speaker 2: he's kind of pissed off, like he didn't get something done.
Speaker 2: I wanted like was there moving the table? Him saying
Speaker 2: like what, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean I think there were moves on the table
Speaker 4: talking with people and they just didn't pull the trigger.
Speaker 4: And that's why I think you heard Dan Campbell say
Speaker 4: like this might have been our only chance.
Speaker 3: And twice ty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not he's not wrong. We haven't been back since.
Speaker 2: That's from your head coach. That's not from hate as
Speaker 2: media never had positive things to say. Oh, you guys
Speaker 2: just hate the team. No, that's from your head coach
Speaker 2: who said that, who's been to multiple Super Bowls and
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Speaker 2: We got some positive things to talk about because I
Speaker 2: do think that the trore Lines are making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think they're the most town.
Speaker 2: Out the team in the division in my opinion, with
Speaker 2: one of the weakest schedules in the entirety of the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think you're walking the playoffs in my opinion, like
Speaker 2: like at home playoff game division. I mean even last.
Speaker 1: Year puts you this way, Skywalker. Would you say last
Speaker 1: year's team was worse?
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, yeah, I mean I guess so it
Speaker 3: depends on how our draft picks play out.
Speaker 1: I think, say one more time, I can't hear you.
Speaker 3: I mean I would say last teams last year's team
Speaker 3: is worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they still finished nine and eight, right with
Speaker 2: the worst team, tougher schedule.
Speaker 1: That's a really tough schedules.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand how a team can be
Speaker 3: playoffs successful with the defense they have, Like that defense
Speaker 3: is fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: That's that's a different conversation itself.
Speaker 2: Like my whole argument is like they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I'm not only hear They're not gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They're gonna make the playoffs with the other better team.
Speaker 2: They went nine to eight last year, A tougher schedule
Speaker 2: with worse team, easier schedule, better team for sure in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. What they do from there, Yeah, there could
Speaker 2: be conversations at that point, but I would remember go
Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty three though that wasn't a good
Speaker 2: defense either on paper. But if you the recipe success
Speaker 2: for them, if they're gonna play this way, they gotta
Speaker 2: play the way.
Speaker 1: They twenty twenty three. You gotta stop the run.
Speaker 2: Four seems to pass for to be yes to turnovers,
Speaker 2: but you need two guys to be healthy to guarantee that.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's Kirby Joseph Brant.
Speaker 3: Branch and I mean a lot a lot of things
Speaker 3: that it's a lot of what ifs that could potentially happen,
Speaker 3: and I feel like that's of the mindset that nothing
Speaker 3: wrong is going to happen, especially with the history of
Speaker 3: how injury prone this team has been over the past
Speaker 3: two three years. It's just, I mean, given the schedule,
Speaker 3: if we think or if if it goes how we
Speaker 3: think it will, I think the schedule will be easy.
Speaker 3: It's just I'm not ready to, you know, fully be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we got a really easy schedule, especially when I haven't
Speaker 3: seen any of these teams play.
Speaker 4: Yet, but you know some of them are gonna be asked. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, like you've got the last play schedule from
Speaker 4: last year and like a lot of those teams haven't improved.
Speaker 4: And I think that when you look at this Lion's
Speaker 4: offense is going to be the best offense in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I truly believe that. And I think you will get
Speaker 4: to the playoffs off of your schedule and off of
Speaker 4: your offense alone.
Speaker 1: And there you need some mention.
Speaker 4: And then if if Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch are
Speaker 4: both healthy going into the playoffs, obviously with everybody else
Speaker 4: healthy as well, I think if just as good of
Speaker 4: a shot of winning the Super Bowl as anybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, the biggest thing is health. It is because
Speaker 2: I think you can have the recipe to have success
Speaker 2: on defense. I think I was already with Steve Leman
Speaker 2: on Twitter, Hey tell me the Rams twenty eighteen defense
Speaker 2: is bad.
Speaker 1: And some of DOMINICANSU.
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Robert Quinn Lee keep taleb who was the
Speaker 2: other corner they had to Mars Parcus Peters, No it
Speaker 2: was not.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They had a game for Patrick Mahomes with fucking nuclear
Speaker 2: droptifty four of them and then the rest of the
Speaker 2: starters week seventeen, and they stopped I think forty eight.
Speaker 1: Points in them too, which knocked him out of the top fifteen.
Speaker 2: That was that wasn't a bad defense by any stretching
Speaker 2: the means Jared Goff did not carry that team, but
Speaker 2: he stretch had one touchdown the entire playoffs and that's
Speaker 2: going in one touchdown the entirety of it all. Like
Speaker 2: the defense, I think we get to have some success
Speaker 2: that way, where if Vale McNeil's healthy, obviously touched it
Speaker 2: being healthy, then get to the quarterback at least put
Speaker 2: some pressure in the quarterback to force them to make
Speaker 2: some mistakes. That's what happened in twenty twenty three. That
Speaker 2: was a recipe. Go back to that Rams game and
Speaker 2: the Rams worst team back then for sure, and then
Speaker 2: matchup at home, but they're beating the fuck out of
Speaker 2: Stafford all game. The same thing gets Baker Mayfield in
Speaker 2: the Bucks after his ass all game forced them some mistakes,
Speaker 2: Derek Barnes and Malcolm Rodriguez got turnovers, and that playoff stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like if you have these, if your defensive line could perform,
Speaker 2: which I think a Lie mcdeil healthy they could, then
Speaker 2: you could have a chance and need from favorable matchups too,
Speaker 2: like I think the Rams faced them in that playoff.
Speaker 1: That was the worst version of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think facing the Bucks that kind of one
Speaker 2: side of that point too. That's before the offense really
Speaker 2: broke out. They released a defensive of a team and
Speaker 2: they ran to a real team. The foryd Niners end
Speaker 2: up getting punched in the face.
Speaker 1: But you lost. You got it.
Speaker 4: They've been there before and you haven't.
Speaker 1: You got pumped.
Speaker 4: Yah, yeah, you got punked. But now we've been there,
Speaker 4: and I think, like I said, you have per NFLS,
Speaker 4: GMS and scouts a better roster than any other team
Speaker 4: in the NFL went healthy. You have the most players
Speaker 4: on top ten lists in the entire league went healthy.
Speaker 4: That is the most important part. And that's why talking
Speaker 4: about navigating the schedule and doing different things to make
Speaker 4: sure you're putting the right situations. But yeah, if you
Speaker 4: have what I think is on paper the best defensive
Speaker 4: line that Brad Holmes is put together in his ten year,
Speaker 4: You've got a first team All Pro linebacker and when healthy,
Speaker 4: arguably the two best safeties in the league. I think
Speaker 4: that is a good enough defense to win you a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. But we haven't seen them all healthy together
Speaker 4: on the field once, like, so yeah, it that that's
Speaker 4: the biggest. Like I know, there are a lot of
Speaker 4: factors of if. No, it's literally just health. It is
Speaker 4: just health that is the only factor, because when healthy,
Speaker 4: you have the most talented roster in the NFL except
Speaker 4: for maybe the Rams.
Speaker 2: I mean quite literally. And that's the point out too.
Speaker 2: Where last year again I think it made this point before,
Speaker 2: but last year, when all those injuries happened, the guys
Speaker 2: replaced them were practice squad players. I mean, the legion
Speaker 2: of whom right This year is not the case. Chuck
Speaker 2: Clark started multiple games with multiple organizations backing up a
Speaker 2: safety for you. You have guys like Roger McCreary. Yeah he's
Speaker 2: not the greatest, but he's actually started in this league.
Speaker 2: Like last year, when you went down, you had guys
Speaker 2: coming up and trying to make an aim for themselves
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. This year you have actual
Speaker 2: NFL experienced starting veterans. Yeah, and woplace to those guys
Speaker 2: if shit were to go south.
Speaker 4: Because that's what people forget is that our backups were
Speaker 4: hurt last year too. So when this is like all
Speaker 4: of our second string guys were injured before the season
Speaker 4: even started. So when our actual starters went down we
Speaker 4: were putting in fourth string guys. They do have a
Speaker 4: deeper team this year.
Speaker 1: They do, but.
Speaker 4: Again it's you're gonna hear me say it all year.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you can't stay healthy.
Speaker 6: Now, I agree that health is the is the number
Speaker 6: one as opposed to as opposed to what I'm about
Speaker 6: to ask here, but to play the forty percent role, like,
Speaker 6: how much of the percentage is the importance of Calvin
Speaker 6: Shepherd's improvement defensively? That's important. Team, that's very important, if
Speaker 6: you had to put a percentage on it.
Speaker 4: For I think there are six players that you need
Speaker 4: to be healthy to if you want to win in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. And it's Penny School, It's Jamier Gibbs, It's
Speaker 4: Jared Goff, It's Aiden Hutchinson, It's Kirby Joseph's Brian Branch.
Speaker 4: I think like with with your wide receiver corps, obviously
Speaker 4: you don't want to see anybody go go down, But
Speaker 4: if one of those guys goes down, you have the
Speaker 4: talent out there to overcome that. Gibbs goes down, you
Speaker 4: you're fucked. Penney goes down, your young offensive line is
Speaker 4: getting torch. You got Larry borum a left tackle. Obviously,
Speaker 4: we know you need Golf in there to run the offense.
Speaker 4: And then you need Hutch, Kirby and Branch because they
Speaker 4: are your biggest turnover creators and your biggest havoc Like
Speaker 4: remember that havoc play where it's like tips, breakups, turnovers,
Speaker 4: tackles for loss, and those three guys were always top
Speaker 4: five in the league when they're healthy. Like, that's what
Speaker 4: you need because your defense, your cornerbacks aren't I don't
Speaker 4: think good enough to sustain a great defense, but you
Speaker 4: can create turnovers at a high level when those guys
Speaker 4: are there.
Speaker 2: Shot Grama. He says, you went from the NFC championship
Speaker 2: and then beat Barbrogue quarterback to not even making the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And now you think you've improved. Okay, now you said
Speaker 2: we improved from last year. Brother, you went fucking three
Speaker 2: extra years backwards. No, we're talking about in comparison to
Speaker 2: last year when you were nine to eight, one game.
Speaker 1: Away from making the playoffs. What about nineteen? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Team your better from last year's team.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then to another common dangy, dangy, I love
Speaker 2: you've been here for a long time, but saying, goff
Speaker 2: these other things such a lazy take.
Speaker 1: No, he does everything that's white. Make the fucking playoffs
Speaker 1: last year, Bud.
Speaker 2: And there are examples of guys who didn't have everything
Speaker 2: who made the playoffs. Justin Herbert lost the entire offensive
Speaker 2: line last year, had Lad McConkie his only weapon, lost
Speaker 2: his running backs too. He was in the playoffs and
Speaker 2: arguably just tough a division with the Chiefs, with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: With the Raiders. Yeahcerated, we had the Viking suit. You
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, but I just.
Speaker 2: That's the difference, Danny. That's the difference there. Like he's
Speaker 2: still a bit of turn Chicken ship and the chicken soup.
Speaker 1: I love JG. The playoffways go to. Isn't that rams game?
Speaker 2: We wouldn't, thank God, because everything was going right, But
Speaker 2: like when the ship wasn't going right and Ady had
Speaker 2: that pressure, JG loved him with death, went back, took the.
Speaker 1: Ball and threw it from his chest, well falling backwards.
Speaker 1: What do we fly?
Speaker 2: We got sold? I think brock Wright recovered and thank God.
Speaker 2: Like that's the difference. The Matt Milano one that was
Speaker 2: nuts and looking like what the box rop tickets.
Speaker 1: He didn't expect it. That was Thanksgiving, Like, there's that.
Speaker 4: Ship was so funny, dude. I was like, there's no
Speaker 4: way and we're not doing that. We we know what
Speaker 4: we love JG and he is one of the most
Speaker 4: important players.
Speaker 1: On this team.
Speaker 2: Uh Zach said his comment was coment was about kissing
Speaker 2: Steven holding hands.
Speaker 4: He said, me and Steve kiss He wants to hold hands,
Speaker 4: but I don't want to open my.
Speaker 1: Heart up like that. I don't know. I love Steve,
Speaker 1: I love all you guys. Some times we love you
Speaker 1: guys for sure. And that's how you know.
Speaker 4: We're heating up a little bit. Chat's heating up. Football
Speaker 4: is getting close. Football's getting real close training camp. These
Speaker 4: are gonna be boots on the ground this year more
Speaker 4: than ever. So if you guys have tickets cinemas, because
Speaker 4: we don't have tickets, we're broke.
Speaker 2: But like you, I'll say I was wrong and admit
Speaker 2: that all your takes, all right. If you take me
Speaker 2: training kick, yeah me too, both of us.
Speaker 1: Package deal, package deal, all right.
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Speaker 4: you if you get us the tickets, I'll buy you
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Speaker 4: and cheese on it.
Speaker 1: If they have those. They have those last year, right,
Speaker 1: I think they did the breakfast truck.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, thet the breakfast tots with the gravy and
Speaker 4: the hang on it, crash it.
Speaker 1: They always got good food a lions they do. Detroit
Speaker 1: just got good food. I don't travel often enough that
Speaker 1: got to speak on it. I feel like we're no,
Speaker 1: we we gotta. Yeah, we've gotten to leave food scene
Speaker 1: for sure. You got to. If you have cold winners,
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Speaker 4: Real quick. Shout out to you out eight ten Detroit
Speaker 4: guy on Twitter, Go give him a follow? Oh he
Speaker 4: u yeah, obviously what an idiot?
Speaker 1: He Ten's my birthday though.
Speaker 4: Shout out to three thirteen Detroit guy. Height one o
Speaker 4: Detroit guys, say, so, can y'all talk about something? Twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six thirty seven point six million, twenty twenty seven
Speaker 4: sixty two point six million, twenty twenty eight sixty nine
Speaker 4: point six million.
Speaker 1: Oh he's talking about golf. A you know, how can
Speaker 1: we get golf to retire early? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, he's fucking us on the field seven off million.
Speaker 1: I'm not You're gonna have to rework that somehow again
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it was this year and and it
Speaker 4: was it was supposed to be like seventy two million
Speaker 4: or something this year.
Speaker 1: I hate this boy.
Speaker 2: You guys, he's probably gonna get resigned next year for
Speaker 2: another probably gonna Jared.
Speaker 14: This point, anybody but you and Skywalker. Well he was
Speaker 14: talking about the money's states. If that happens, they're gonna happen.
Speaker 14: I'm not even a bandwagon. I'm just gonna be at
Speaker 14: a new local years like you said, move it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not even gonna bandwagon. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 1: in a new But you can't just get rid of
Speaker 1: him without like the next guy. Ouh.
Speaker 2: That's why I was kind of hopeful for Leak.
Speaker 3: You're gonna fucking seventy million on.
Speaker 1: On sh but you would have That's what extend him
Speaker 1: because you kicked the candle.
Speaker 4: That's why you gotta You gotta target either Joe Burrow
Speaker 4: or Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I think when you're fucked up. He gave him no trade.
Speaker 2: Clay, who's trading for Jared Goffe with with no trade?
Speaker 4: He probably requested it because he got traded last time
Speaker 4: and he but it worked out for Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love this Jared Goff.
Speaker 2: Good quarterback, great, even better guy, But you're paying him
Speaker 2: a quarter of your fucking salary cap.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. Brother, ain't never gonna work.
Speaker 4: He's never gonna He's never gonna actually make seventy million
Speaker 4: dollars a year, like on the salary cap. They're all
Speaker 4: they're going to work it to where either they re
Speaker 4: signed him for a year and throw it into a
Speaker 4: dead cap, or they give him fucking a forty million
Speaker 4: dollars signing bonus, because there you could. You literally can't
Speaker 4: have Jared Goff making seventy million with all the other
Speaker 4: contracts you if you can't.
Speaker 1: So next year or the year after that, he's probably
Speaker 1: like a four year extension.
Speaker 3: So easy.
Speaker 2: You can you compare a style of play too, he
Speaker 2: could play up until he's like forty.
Speaker 3: I genuinely like too.
Speaker 1: The arms on to the armstring guys out.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to think about that ship.
Speaker 1: It's happening, man, like making me so mad. You just
Speaker 1: said that right now? Pretty bad? I get it, dude, again,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money that It's pretty hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just I.
Speaker 3: Don't know Jared Goff, like if you really cared about like.
Speaker 1: Hydration. Oh that's sick. Yeah, I just he was here.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah wings, fuck yeah, shout out Tuesday stars unless
Speaker 2: they they gotta they start experiencing in the drafts and
Speaker 2: draft and some of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: Here's what here's what it is. You compare him to
Speaker 6: this guy all the time. Who do you compare Jared
Speaker 6: Goff to all the time? Quarterback Tom Brady?
Speaker 2: Tom did what yeah, take did take his entire career.
Speaker 2: Guess what else Tom Brady didn't do with that seven
Speaker 2: fucking Super Bowl rings, even his last one in Tampa.
Speaker 1: The guaranteed money was deferred to after we retired.
Speaker 4: And he was going crazy on that team because the
Speaker 4: team was fucking stacked.
Speaker 1: But like Brown, Rob Gronkowski, Mike Evans, Chris.
Speaker 2: Who was a tight yeah, Chris Godwin, Cameron Braid, Dominic
Speaker 2: and Sue wasn't sing that Leonard Fournette, Shady McCoy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the we're fucking nuts. But that's what if
Speaker 1: you're gonna if.
Speaker 4: You remember playoff, but.
Speaker 2: If you're limited to like standing in the pocket, hitting
Speaker 2: the open guy, make sure the open guy is a
Speaker 2: fucking doll.
Speaker 4: Your fourth wide receiver was Antonio fucking Brown maybe the
Speaker 4: best receiver ever.
Speaker 1: I think you should be.
Speaker 2: More of that part conversations. People want he's top five.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Jared Goff knows, like I think, deep down in his
Speaker 3: heart he knows like he is not worth that contract
Speaker 3: that he has right now, and like that's he's not
Speaker 3: worth it, and he knows that. I know that, and
Speaker 3: it's just like he like I think he values the
Speaker 3: money way more than any championship he could possibly win,
Speaker 3: because if he really valued the team in his legacy
Speaker 3: and winning a super Bowl, he would take that pay cut.
Speaker 3: And we've seen that over like you know, great athletes
Speaker 3: before and it's just like he is. It's different when
Speaker 3: you're paying a Lamar Jackson or a Josh Allen or
Speaker 3: a Patrick Mahome that level of contract because they will
Speaker 3: go and physically themselves win you a game. Jared Goff
Speaker 3: is not going to be the reason that you go
Speaker 3: out there and win a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just put out those rankings. I believe it
Speaker 2: was our guy can't even named Nicks. No, no, no, that
Speaker 2: was crazy too.
Speaker 4: Ten Bo Nicks ten spots better than Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: You're smoking Dick dude, the.
Speaker 2: Stat guy we have in the show, though, Ron great mustache,
Speaker 2: great mustage. Warren Shark put out the best quarterbacks when
Speaker 2: losing in the second half.
Speaker 4: Great apartment, to.
Speaker 1: Great apartment, to do coching apartment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of warn surfaces, super nerve.
Speaker 2: He puts out the team preview every single year, makes
Speaker 2: you go check it out. But he said he did
Speaker 2: the comeback Kings best quarterbacks when losing the second half?
Speaker 1: Number one?
Speaker 4: Who think it was Matt Stafford.
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford.
Speaker 2: He's always been there, always been that because he has
Speaker 2: the fucking arm to do it. Yeah, crazy enough, This
Speaker 2: ain't nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams two, Jordan Love, No way, Jordan Love was
Speaker 1: number two, didn't I thought the Bears had like ten.
Speaker 2: Cat Williams top five, Josh Allen top five, Mahomes top ten,
Speaker 2: Drake may top like.
Speaker 1: Look at the arm talent. In the conversation, we're having
Speaker 1: the comeback guys because the.
Speaker 2: Guys who can fucking go out there with that bitch
Speaker 2: fucking sixty yards and the like, it's that type of guy.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, where do you think you're ranked?
Speaker 4: Sixteenth worse twenty sixth better.
Speaker 1: Twenty two, twenty one, twenty one.
Speaker 2: That's just a difference in like, like what Skywalker said,
Speaker 2: go out there in like WILLW game, I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: win the third?
Speaker 3: Like am I crazy for that?
Speaker 1: Takee? No, you're correct? What do you guys?
Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna see it and I was
Speaker 2: gonna be proven wrong in last year Steelers he didn't
Speaker 2: make a play to push him in, but it was unfuly.
Speaker 3: If you guys think that contract is like crazy.
Speaker 4: It you have to it's not crazy because it's what
Speaker 4: he has earned. It's like that's if you're a top
Speaker 4: ten quarterback in the league, which he is, that's what
Speaker 4: you're gonna get.
Speaker 6: And I think that this is a perfect situation for
Speaker 6: golf where all right, you got that contract where you
Speaker 6: were given the money you are worth, Like now it's time.
Speaker 6: Now it's time that now you're like the tail end
Speaker 6: of your prime, you know, getting out of your prime. Here,
Speaker 6: this is your time to now make that pivot to
Speaker 6: take to take a pay cut.
Speaker 5: We talked about all the time.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of there's a lot of athletes, musicians,
Speaker 6: whatever you want to use as a as a reference here,
Speaker 6: but everybody in their career has a point where they
Speaker 6: can make that pivot. This to me, this next contract
Speaker 6: for Jered Goff is that potential to have that pivot
Speaker 6: Because you've had now multiple lucrative contracts, You've had the
Speaker 6: you've had the situation where you were where you're the
Speaker 6: home hero and cast it aside. You built up, you
Speaker 6: found your reputation, you built your legacy back here in Detroit.
Speaker 6: Now this is your time to cement it by taking
Speaker 6: that pay cut. Because I think Jared Golf can win
Speaker 6: you a super Bowl if he is under that twelve
Speaker 6: percent of the capitol and you're using that cap space
Speaker 6: to allocate and get other to get other pieces around him.
Speaker 6: I absolutely think that he can be a quarterback on
Speaker 6: a on a super Bowl championship team if that Super
Speaker 6: Bowl championship team has a lot of talent around it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Gurth Brooks with another super chat, he says, you
Speaker 4: pooped in the refrigerator and ate a whole wheel of cheese.
Speaker 1: I'm not even mad.
Speaker 4: That's impressive. With the Acerman, do you just throw a
Speaker 4: burrito out of your window?
Speaker 2: And again, this is like that's what he was probably
Speaker 2: get the upen markets what you gotta quarter man.
Speaker 6: I mean, now, look, part of this too, is part
Speaker 6: of this two is we're paying for the emotional baggage,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like like you got, you
Speaker 6: got cast Side, you got.
Speaker 1: Yeah Burnsby is the fucking no trade parts like that.
Speaker 5: That's emotional baggage.
Speaker 1: That's that is emotional baggage.
Speaker 4: Because my whole thing was always can we have Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow be our Matt Stafford or Josh or Josh like
Speaker 4: they can't win? Those are pipe dreams too. Oh you
Speaker 4: can't win in uh in Buffalo, Josh? All right, come
Speaker 4: play indoors in those in us? Like, no, it's those
Speaker 4: are pipe dreams too. But that would have to I
Speaker 4: think they they love golf man, they wouldn't even I
Speaker 4: don't even think they would trade him.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy and he's a good quarterback. And
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough. You can't just get rid of him.
Speaker 1: It's not you, it's me.
Speaker 4: You gotta have to replacement. Ready, You have to have
Speaker 4: a plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you need the plan because it's not it's
Speaker 2: not easy to replace him. You need Joe Burrow on
Speaker 2: the phone, give me the funk out of Cincinnati. You
Speaker 2: need Josh all give me the funk out of buffal
Speaker 2: You need that to happen.
Speaker 3: Well, like, I mean, that's I guess where I'm at
Speaker 3: is like and I said this last year and hot take.
Speaker 3: I just I don't see him taking the Lions and
Speaker 3: like winning a super Bowl. But again with the no
Speaker 3: trade clause, it's like, Okay, you guys think Jared Goff
Speaker 3: is this great quarterback. Put him in a trade, you know,
Speaker 3: a package him or something like like it you hate him,
Speaker 3: get him?
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just he doesn't.
Speaker 4: That's well, it's a personal vendetta.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's personal.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he also doesn't tip.
Speaker 1: Well oh really is that real? I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the rumors.
Speaker 3: My lawyer has advised me not to uh speak.
Speaker 1: On JG bad tipper. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4: Somebody in the streets told me that.
Speaker 1: That's very disappointed to hear.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, he's gonna earn seventy million. It's
Speaker 3: extremely disappointed to here seventy million.
Speaker 1: You make way too much.
Speaker 5: Goddamnehip this guy.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to guess him up. So he's top ten
Speaker 1: now I know he's a bad tipper. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to change things for me. I said he was
Speaker 1: a good guy ten minutes ago. Obvious.
Speaker 6: But you can go to a restaurant and only eat
Speaker 6: the soupid leave right. That would be terrible. Another means,
Speaker 6: wait what I said, he didn't go but he didn't
Speaker 6: go to a restaurant and only eat the soup and
Speaker 6: leave right, because that would be terrible.
Speaker 1: It pends depends where the fuck with the entrees.
Speaker 4: Honestly, the four people get food before him.
Speaker 1: The restaurant starving a child, Yeah, they starve a child.
Speaker 1: Start a child?
Speaker 3: Really child?
Speaker 1: Lucky y'all call him up by name? Yeah, and Bryce
Speaker 1: is cute enough. We could go viral. I swear yeah,
Speaker 1: like you swear be underground. You start this white baby?
Speaker 1: Sure is what Zach soap? He tipped me good doc
Speaker 1: dot dot Uh.
Speaker 4: I am a good tip of Freddy Feller. I worked
Speaker 4: in food service. Is a good tip for like nine years.
Speaker 4: I normally you have to do something pretty egregious to
Speaker 4: get me to tip blow like forty percent.
Speaker 1: I always tip twenty percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fair, twenty five I do.
Speaker 1: I did twenty two twenty five twenty percent bad.
Speaker 6: No, twenty percent to twenty percent is what's about twenty
Speaker 6: twenty five?
Speaker 1: More time call today?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sixteen to like eighteen is like i'd say average,
Speaker 6: hell twenty twenty five. No, no, no, I'm saying, like
Speaker 6: for most people, that's what most people would do. But
Speaker 6: I'm saying, so twenty percent prett easy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always overtook unless you're like, unless you suck at
Speaker 4: your job, which I also I know when somebody's like
Speaker 4: in the weeds, and I know when somebody just sucks
Speaker 4: at their job because I've been there.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 4: But if unless you suck your job, I'm tipping you
Speaker 4: probably thirty forty percent. Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Ever tip under when they suck at their job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'll still tip like twenty percent.
Speaker 1: I used to date this girl.
Speaker 2: Fucking drove me crazy, and I get it in the holidays,
Speaker 2: she all right whatever, like I'm obviously paying for everything,
Speaker 2: but she right the fucking tip and she's always doing
Speaker 2: like way Actually, I'm like, bitch, yeah, hell no, Papa's paying.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, playing the fucking receipt.
Speaker 1: Get the fuck over here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That shit was crazy, like pissed off bro, and like Princess.
Speaker 2: She did it at a fucking pissed this game, bitch.
Speaker 2: We're paying fifteen dollars for these drinks.
Speaker 1: That's where I don't tip. Well is the ballpark.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 4: Because I'm paying. I'm paying seventeen dollars for a Miller Lite,
Speaker 4: I'm not tipping.
Speaker 1: I'm tip you a dollar man, like, yeah, no, that's funny.
Speaker 6: That's where I'm like, I'm still figuring out my adulthood.
Speaker 6: Is Like it's like the tipping for like other things
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Speaker 6: like for example, like a subplace, like when when they're
Speaker 6: making you, I don't tip take out sub or yeah
Speaker 6: or takeout t.
Speaker 4: Take not tip y dining or delivery you're not you
Speaker 4: don't have to tip take out yeah, yeah, unless you
Speaker 4: if you go there, I want whatever tip and take out.
Speaker 1: If we're going to kitchen, I'll give him this five. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Dining or delivery tip sure came.
Speaker 1: Out the phone, funk out of here. Ye me on
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Speaker 1: but also not smoothing. No, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: Servers.
Speaker 4: Conservers are making five dollars an hour.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's the Detroit Lions defense.
Speaker 2: That d you want to play with the play with
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down the Detroit Lions schedule here, all right,
Speaker 2: and I want you to tell me the defense detro
Speaker 2: Lion's defense is better.
Speaker 1: Than the team they're facing, like comparing, like to stop
Speaker 1: the can they hang?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Week one? New Orleans Saints? No, shuck, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: What what I think we played? We might as well
Speaker 1: play a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's I mean it'll.
Speaker 1: Be like we're making it. Bet we're making a pizza.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about these Saints.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like a surefire like our defense
Speaker 3: is stopping the New Orleans Saints. They Yes, I think
Speaker 3: they can. I also think the Saints can torch our
Speaker 3: secondary Like.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Camar is still there.
Speaker 1: Camaro is still there on a discount.
Speaker 2: The guy each Now you say his new name, which
Speaker 2: what are the what are the Jacks gonna do?
Speaker 10: Is is.
Speaker 1: He ready for? I just want he should have traded
Speaker 1: for Montgomery Trevor.
Speaker 2: Ways could have been maybe no bills, No, hell no,
Speaker 2: I mean, who's got a pin?
Speaker 1: You gotta pin that's working? No? Can you catch I
Speaker 1: got a marker? Yeah? I can for sure.
Speaker 3: All right, let's see Jesus, that was a perfect brow
Speaker 3: all right, perfect throw perfect the Jets.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, if you can't stop the Jets, you you
Speaker 4: are don't have a team with the pulse chat Phil
Speaker 4: Fair feel free play. Who's the quarterback for the Jets?
Speaker 1: Is Gino? Yeah, it's probably be Geno, but you know,
Speaker 1: might be as legalis.
Speaker 3: Don't write him off.
Speaker 1: You slapped his X on cam or someone. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll be.
Speaker 4: Fine, doesn't care about it.
Speaker 5: Is justin Field still on the roster.
Speaker 1: Panthers.
Speaker 3: No Panthers who are their wide receivers now?
Speaker 4: Tat McMillan and.
Speaker 3: He was, he was really really good and get that guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was kind of He's fine.
Speaker 1: You'all ever eat the crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah squirrel with thanksgiving sub Hubbard ray o'donald though answer, yes,
Speaker 2: don't don't do this, guy, I.
Speaker 3: Would say more don't do this. Yeah, I'd say the
Speaker 3: defense more than likely, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can handle the Panthers.
Speaker 2: Cardinals, yes see lady damon Packers No no more dobs?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well so we're really just skipping over the
Speaker 3: Cardinals like that? Huh?
Speaker 1: Yes? Which, yes?
Speaker 4: What who's the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Jacobe? The fact fucking Cardinals. What do you mean, guy?
Speaker 3: And Marvin Harrison?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think good wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Who's their offense?
Speaker 1: They're both receiver twos right now. Mike Wilson actually gone straight.
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love, Yes, we can stop the Packers.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think the Packers offense isn't gonna be good this year.
Speaker 1: Scott Walker, well, they still talks of craft healthy.
Speaker 2: It's probably it's October twenty fifth, so probably probably.
Speaker 4: I would say yes. I would lean yes.
Speaker 1: Actually covering him.
Speaker 4: Help us.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning yes against the Packers saying nice, you're saying no.
Speaker 1: What are you saying because you're the tie breaker?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I guess we're on. That is like
Speaker 3: if they don't really have a bona fide wide receiver
Speaker 3: one outside of their tight end.
Speaker 1: People are saying Matthew Goldie might have happened up.
Speaker 3: For ship, like Christian Watson is your best wide receiver
Speaker 3: and Josh Jacobs you gotta be a little premitted towards
Speaker 3: the run.
Speaker 5: Also, guys, remember this might be moving towards no.
Speaker 3: I'd say no.
Speaker 5: This is some point of the season two with no
Speaker 5: Brian Branch.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing. I'm doing plus minces. I'm
Speaker 1: the equals sign. Okay, that's fair. We can yeah, guarantee
Speaker 1: happy yet all right, Vikings No, no, no, our defense
Speaker 1: air offense. Yes, I'm saying yes. Jordan Everson and Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Jean Taylor with Tyler Murray right there. Murray maye folk him.
Speaker 3: I mean no. Is Aaron Jones still with the Vikings too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's cood the corpse of I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a good that's one of the better
Speaker 3: wide receiver tandem will be.
Speaker 1: This Last year was all defense. Yeah, because they didn't
Speaker 1: have a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: As much as I like to hate small people, that's
Speaker 5: the Vikings are gonna be.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson is easily a top two wide receiver in
Speaker 3: the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 4: I think Jack Cheat, we need help on this. I
Speaker 4: think it's going to be flipped from last year. I
Speaker 4: think it's going to be shootouts against the Vikings this
Speaker 4: year because our offensive line is going to be much
Speaker 4: more improved and ready to.
Speaker 1: Shoot out against that defense.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that's it's going to be the difference
Speaker 4: that there was what two years ago, we had shootouts
Speaker 4: against the Vikings.
Speaker 2: When our defense, when our offensive line was prime in
Speaker 2: at twenty twenty four, last game of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense was fucking us. Jamiir Gibbs saved us.
Speaker 1: What was the score of that game?
Speaker 2: That is up there, But luckily they're their offense fucking
Speaker 2: went away. But I remember Jared Goff got fucking Andrew
Speaker 2: Van Ginkle coming up on him, first smacked them and
Speaker 2: then intercept them the very next play. Like honestly, Sam
Speaker 2: Donald being asked and could connect with Jay Jettison, that
Speaker 2: one kind of saved us.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like just historically, like big name
Speaker 3: wide receivers like that do extremely well against the Lions.
Speaker 3: So I think, I mean, if Kyler Murray just really
Speaker 3: throws up the ball a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Denver play, the game is is our defense better than
Speaker 2: their offense? We're talking about the detro Lions defense right now.
Speaker 2: If you guys just tuning in, are they better or
Speaker 2: worse than the offense that we're naming. We're going down
Speaker 2: the schedule right now. We're at the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4: We put up thirty one, thirty one, and twenty four
Speaker 4: against the Vikings and then ten in the last game
Speaker 4: so I think next year we're going to see those
Speaker 4: thirty plus games against the Vikings because our offensive line
Speaker 4: is gonna be better and their quarterback situation is gonna
Speaker 4: be way better. So I think it's gonna be more
Speaker 4: shootouts against the Vikings.
Speaker 6: I know Max Prosperous got offs number.
Speaker 1: I'll put it on the equals signs that.
Speaker 3: I mean, we play him twice, so let's just say, yeah,
Speaker 3: plus one for the first time, minus one for the next.
Speaker 1: All right, there's an equals sign for that one.
Speaker 4: I think if we beat the Vikings, we have to
Speaker 4: score thirty plus and that's proven over the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank rad Now they had no shootoutgainst that defense.
Speaker 1: Brother, we didn't do to get hims.
Speaker 4: Last year we scored thirty or what was it, twenty
Speaker 4: four without an offensive line. They beat us twenty seven
Speaker 4: to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't no fucking shootout coming to that one.
Speaker 2: Dolphins, Yes, yeah, yes, yes, terrible offense.
Speaker 5: Patriots no, no aj Brown.
Speaker 4: That offensive line.
Speaker 1: They probably got the best offensive line in the league,
Speaker 1: or one of Patriots. Yeah, when they get watch his
Speaker 1: name in there.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess we got to see. But I think
Speaker 4: their offensive line is gonna be better and it was
Speaker 4: already pretty good last year.
Speaker 1: Well Cam got worked by. The offense is better. Yeah
Speaker 1: a J. Brown? They got a J. Brown. Now another
Speaker 1: year for Trey Henderson. I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, is his kryptonite?
Speaker 1: That is fair? That is fair Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: Yes really yes, yes, he against us last year, but
Speaker 2: it's really like yeah, so yes, no Evans, no Goblin,
Speaker 2: where's Godwin?
Speaker 6: What about their who's their back? That's really good though,
Speaker 6: but he didn't really do that well.
Speaker 2: I mean he was injured, but I'm going yes, I'll
Speaker 2: go yes too, I'll go yes to Bears.
Speaker 1: This might be another equals sign or what.
Speaker 2: We handled him last year for real, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but got expected. I think natural progression.
Speaker 4: Bears offense is gonna be good next year. Man, I
Speaker 4: really like. I think, uh my young guy who's gonna
Speaker 4: be there? RB one and switches Swift is going to
Speaker 4: be the change of pace guy. I really like Luther
Speaker 4: Burden as a nominal rock clone.
Speaker 2: Chat why our defense nominate the Bears offense and if
Speaker 2: they can't, I.
Speaker 4: Think Colston Lovelin is gonna be like I said, probably
Speaker 4: tight end one in fantasy this year.
Speaker 1: I think we did we did well against some last
Speaker 1: year because we just we know Ben. I think so,
Speaker 1: and I think that helps. Sure, Yeah, there's nothing equal sign.
Speaker 1: I hate that. I would say yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: I would lean no. Yeah, I'm gonna go no. I
Speaker 1: would say again, those gotta be shootouts.
Speaker 3: You guys, I'd probably say no. But it's more of
Speaker 3: a Ben Johnson thing than anything I know. Then, because
Speaker 3: you guys don't know me, I said yes, but I'm
Speaker 3: also very biased. Beers the Falcons, Jean Drake London, they
Speaker 3: have the.
Speaker 5: Weapons, but quarterback, I'll give it to us.
Speaker 4: But I mean if Tua fucking no, it looks like
Speaker 4: ta from two years ago. No, they got weapons, man,
Speaker 4: Bijon Drake London, fucking.
Speaker 6: Trying to tell you, Kyle Pitts, I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 4: Do they still have a what's his name? To Mooney?
Speaker 4: He like twelve touchdowns on.
Speaker 5: If to A stays upright, I mean it's a problem.
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, they don't don't trust their quarterbacks Titans.
Speaker 5: No, No, you feel bad about the schedule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is fucking like.
Speaker 3: A little bit. I mean you can't count anything out,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, I don't want to get like
Speaker 3: too hopeful, I guess is what I was trying to
Speaker 3: say earlier.
Speaker 1: That's fair giants, they're.
Speaker 3: Gonna have a nasty offense. Weak neighbors, Jackson Darts surgery.
Speaker 1: Again, Yes, I think so.
Speaker 4: I don't think Molik neighbors would be healthy. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I like Jackson Dart, but I don't know if that
Speaker 4: offense is gonna work. I think they're all kind of
Speaker 4: falling apart.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, Scatterboy right, yeah, well he didn't land it.
Speaker 4: But I bet Jim Harbor had I think Jim.
Speaker 3: Attack watching that.
Speaker 1: Who are there?
Speaker 4: Because like I was gonna say, actually, I once saw
Speaker 4: a guy they could run that Ravens offense kind of
Speaker 4: nice with with scatterbo and and Tracy.
Speaker 1: Actually got dog outside and I think, Dan, you know something.
Speaker 4: But yes, we should be able to our defense, should
Speaker 4: be able to survive the Giants.
Speaker 1: Like I know we got We're nerved by the defense.
Speaker 4: I'm nervous about the Giants defense.
Speaker 5: I've been saying a lot of no's. I'll give this one.
Speaker 1: Ay, yes for oh ship, they got dj Reader that's
Speaker 1: where he went. Yeah, you're replaced A that's pretty good. Sexy.
Speaker 1: They're tight end. Oh my Isaiah likely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh fuck yeah, Yeah, they'll tell you who is
Speaker 3: guarding milk.
Speaker 4: And they also got your boys neighbors might be injured.
Speaker 2: They got they signed Mooney, They signed Mooney, and they
Speaker 2: got and ju Ju Dudu ship Poopster.
Speaker 4: No worried about him.
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodden's former Detroit Lion and Odell Beckham.
Speaker 4: I would still say yes unless Moleague Neighbors is healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still going yes as well, guys one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 1: Pre take that out, Preza.
Speaker 2: I mean defense gonna be straight against regular season, regular season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we look at the potential playoff opponents
Speaker 4: and we'll.
Speaker 1: Do a new list, and that'll be no for the guys.
Speaker 2: He was in the playoffs, all right, I mean for now,
Speaker 2: we'd be happy by the defense.
Speaker 5: I've said no a lot more than you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've said I'm just saying, but you had
Speaker 1: my Aunti diaries top three on your list.
Speaker 6: You're doing that little bringing in our ship. Why don't
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Speaker 1: An there.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to help listen chat loop defense, Yes,
Speaker 2: playoffs whole, noother conversation. But for the regular season it
Speaker 2: might even dupe us into saying some dumb ship like
Speaker 2: oh doctor and defense. This year he was saying, like
Speaker 2: we might on paper, might look that way, but we
Speaker 2: got remember the context of like these quarterbacks are facing
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Speaker 5: Good that thanks.
Speaker 1: Audience. We have a friend with a very hot girlfriend.
Speaker 1: She was like, what you do? I thought about my
Speaker 1: friend's hot girlfriend the whole time.
Speaker 4: It's funny because I literally just talking to Ryan about that.
Speaker 2: That's like a bit because I'm always always compliment about
Speaker 2: how hot his girlfriend is.
Speaker 4: After he met his girlfriend for the first time the
Speaker 4: four like four times he saw him.
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, your girlfriend's so hot. I man has
Speaker 2: a comment to him because like I'm like, holy, you
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Speaker 2: Were this a compliment to him? But now it's too far?
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Speaker 1: Oh they're calling too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did a lot of fun things in there. I
Speaker 2: looked up Jamie Riseman's article of his prediction who makes
Speaker 2: a team the Detroit Lions, And I didn't even get
Speaker 2: all the way there before I really he only has
Speaker 2: three edge rushers on this team, Aiden Hudson, DJ Wantum
Speaker 2: and Derek Moore. Mean they're gonna cut Ahmed hastenin Peyton Turner,
Speaker 2: Anthony Lucas and Eric O'Neil, not Anthony.
Speaker 1: Lucas and Eric o'f You know, can you see that happening?
Speaker 1: You wanna read the article, we'll quickly. I can't.
Speaker 4: I can one hundred percent see that happening. But yeah,
Speaker 4: let's read the article.
Speaker 2: Three edged rushers sounds like a small amount, but three
Speaker 2: is a good number, my wife says, and I was
Speaker 2: just kidding Joja.
Speaker 1: However, Jared, three edged.
Speaker 2: Rushers sounds like a small amount all the time, and
Speaker 2: I would have loved to find a place for Amen
Speaker 2: hostin your Peyton Turner. But the truth is there is
Speaker 2: enough versatility. I'm on the defensive tackle group to compliment.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: Hutchson, Wantam and.
Speaker 2: More are all more rush ends, while Tyler Lacy Levon Zerica.
Speaker 1: Can play big end roles in this defense.
Speaker 2: That said, Hastein, Turner or even Anthony Lucas could very
Speaker 2: much convince me to keep a fourth over someone like Manu.
Speaker 9: Yes, what, yes, you keep one of those guys over Manu?
Speaker 4: Dude, Oh my god, yeah, yeah, you only have three
Speaker 4: ed rushers and Giovanni Manu is on your roster. Hit
Speaker 4: the fucking bricks back to Canada, brother Like yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I mean, is it crazy to think the Lions would
Speaker 4: cut Ahmed Hassening or Peyton Turner? Like no, it's not crazy.
Speaker 4: Those guys are borderline practice squad guys anyways. But no,
Speaker 4: you should at least have four ed rushers so you
Speaker 4: don't need Ali McNeil to play edge if something happens.
Speaker 2: I'm in your camp, at least give me four bodies.
Speaker 2: I think I can get to the quarterback. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: may have a big Russian to sit there and then
Speaker 2: you know, play the run depens whatnot. But we've proven
Speaker 2: time and time again we need to get to the
Speaker 2: fucking quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think consistently, and I think Turner and Hastening are
Speaker 4: both gonna make the roster. I think because the upside
Speaker 4: they see in Peyton Turner where if he could stay healthy,
Speaker 4: they know he can produce. It's literally chasing the fucking
Speaker 4: dragon or Marcus again. And with I think the versatility
Speaker 4: that you talk about with guys like that, you can
Speaker 4: look at a Med has and he and wearing ninety nine,
Speaker 4: bumping inside, putting on a little bit of weight to
Speaker 4: be a you know, McKay wingo type of player that
Speaker 4: they like to have on the roster as a smaller
Speaker 4: interior guy that can also bounce outside like a Josh Pascal.
Speaker 1: So I think they both have spots in the roster.
Speaker 4: I think both of them should easily make it over
Speaker 4: Giovanni Manu.
Speaker 1: Marcus, news of it.
Speaker 2: If you cut Manu, who's the backup left tackle, Larry Borm.
Speaker 1: Larry Borm, you paid him eight million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yep, and I gotta be God blessed Manu and I
Speaker 2: wanted to work out.
Speaker 1: I hope it works out. Not it was ugly last year, brother,
Speaker 1: it was bad. But I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I'd rather keep one of those guys over Manu all day.
Speaker 2: I mean, Manu's not even gonna have to give you
Speaker 2: the reps that fucking big big end, big tight end.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I Lions Debate talk.
Speaker 4: Lion's Debate talk in the chat says, trust me, there's
Speaker 4: backup tackle that's going to get cut that is better
Speaker 4: than Giovannie Mineu, and I agree.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm with him on you.
Speaker 4: He cannot make the roster over somebody that would play
Speaker 4: meaningful snaps for you. And I think if healthy Peyton
Speaker 4: Turner and Matt Hassenen could give you meaningful snaps. I
Speaker 4: don't think Giovanni Minu can if he's healthy, give you
Speaker 4: meaningful snaps.
Speaker 2: One of the names at the next blurb at the
Speaker 2: tackle that I would I would say I probably cut
Speaker 2: and maybe keep one of those edges to is Jay
Speaker 2: to o'peely. Yeah, yes, Skyler goeh Howard played edge yet
Speaker 2: in uh college play a little bit edge too.
Speaker 1: I see with saying about some of these guys can, like,
Speaker 1: you know, tweet a little bit. So can Haseneen.
Speaker 2: Linebackers he has Malcolm Rodriguez, Jack Campbell, Derek Barnes, Jimmy
Speaker 2: Rolder and Dmoone Clark cutting Trevor Owaski, Eric Hunter and
Speaker 2: Joe Bachi.
Speaker 1: Damn, that's fair. Joe Bochi's making the team cornerbacks. He'll
Speaker 1: probably get cut. Huh, Joe Bachi'll probably get cut. I
Speaker 1: actually not met anything else in this list. It's really
Speaker 1: just the edge room.
Speaker 2: Three edges felt like it felt crazy to say a
Speaker 2: lot because that's our biggest We're good, arguably your biggest
Speaker 2: need you know, are you good with that?
Speaker 1: Chris? No? Not three edges?
Speaker 5: Not after? Not after what you saw I'm not good.
Speaker 5: How about this.
Speaker 6: You need a minimum of five players at every single
Speaker 6: defensive position because every year it is your defense that
Speaker 6: is falling apart, not your offense physically.
Speaker 5: I think like you need to have depth.
Speaker 6: I don't mean that literally, obviously you couldn't do that,
Speaker 6: but you do need depth on the defensive side because
Speaker 6: you got to air on the side of caution in
Speaker 6: history at this point, and for the last three years,
Speaker 6: your defense has been injured way more than your offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you cannot go into Week one having three
Speaker 4: at rushers.
Speaker 1: He can't.
Speaker 4: Can't after investing into it, after having the pieces, after
Speaker 4: bringing in guys to make sure what happened last year
Speaker 4: when you had a Lee McNeil playing a good amount
Speaker 4: of edge snaps doesn't happen again. You cannot go out
Speaker 4: of training camp with three at rushers.
Speaker 2: And let me look at DJ Wanam's injury history too.
Speaker 2: I know he missed like a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know how last year went from him, mother chuck,
Speaker 2: not off the top of my head. At the very least,
Speaker 2: DJ want them, Yeah, because that's another thing Brad's kind
Speaker 2: of prone to do, was sign these guys that just
Speaker 2: can't stay healthy because it gets them on discount.
Speaker 1: DJ Want played sixteen games last year. That's good. Previous
Speaker 1: year eight games, that's not good.
Speaker 2: I think it was bad. He was battling something too.
Speaker 2: It was like an autoimmune disease too. I mean that's
Speaker 2: different than like a regular injury prone guy. Wan it
Speaker 2: seems mostly healthy in comparison to I think.
Speaker 4: I think Turner and Hastening both make it because, like
Speaker 4: I said, I think Hastening could play inside as well
Speaker 4: as outside, and I think the upside of what they
Speaker 4: could have For Turner.
Speaker 2: I think, like, because that's a guy, like you said,
Speaker 2: if you can stay healthy, could give you some.
Speaker 4: You can believe you can you can sack the quarterback
Speaker 4: in the NFL, Scott Walker, are.
Speaker 1: You feeling about three edge rushers? That is that ridiculous?
Speaker 3: I mean I think kind of like what Chris said,
Speaker 3: like you need to have depth on your defense, and
Speaker 3: I think edge room is absolutely one of those things
Speaker 3: that you need to keep stockpiled because you don't know
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen to your starters throughout the season. So
Speaker 3: I think if you're if you don't have at least
Speaker 3: four I feel like you're kind of just asking for
Speaker 3: a problem at that point. But I mean, three is
Speaker 3: way too way too little for make me feel more comfortable.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: I'm making a pull right down the chat about how
Speaker 2: you guys feel about three edge rushers.
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Speaker 6: last year.
Speaker 7: Is like that?
Speaker 1: Or is he singing like that?
Speaker 6: I've never actually heard him in an interview. I've actually
Speaker 6: never heard him in interview, so I can't say.
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Speaker 6: two thousands. R and B like classic.
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Speaker 5: That was actually really good.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say so I mean, who would we really call, like, like,
Speaker 3: who's like the popular R and B artists?
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Speaker 2: one because you're like, what are you listening to?
Speaker 4: A lot of the old ship from R.
Speaker 3: Kelly is not as popular anymore. Yea, like a lot
Speaker 3: of R m B falls under wrap now too.
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Speaker 1: one song. That's another one of those voices. Tuesday when
Speaker 1: I'm making an RB, he's gotta yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: go mad.
Speaker 5: Last time.
Speaker 4: She's got a little muppet at her for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not the Adam from the d Muppets. I could only
Speaker 4: I could only wish.
Speaker 1: She came up in the nineties. She was getting mumpeted.
Speaker 1: What am I lying not? Just find all this out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's that she was at the partner. That's probably what
Speaker 1: she says.
Speaker 7: Like that.
Speaker 1: I haven't. She's never got a bad.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I've watched Jeff. I afraid he grew up in this
Speaker 2: business since he started. He's just a boy, walked in
Speaker 2: as an intern doing you know, Jeff's social media moment.
Speaker 1: Whatever he did in the Morning show.
Speaker 2: I was the very first episode Jeff ill up until
Speaker 2: now he's an interview with Brad Holmes.
Speaker 1: I just got crunch time runs. He's killing it, doing
Speaker 1: a lot of us getting tattoos. He's no longer a
Speaker 1: Virgil ass. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But today he said something. He's been saying something that
Speaker 2: I don't know if I necessarily agree with. And Jeff
Speaker 2: is vehemently against paying Jamier Gibbs. I maybe you have
Speaker 2: to have this conversation with him. Maybe it's not fair
Speaker 2: to have discussion without him here. Maybe I'll try popping
Speaker 2: at crunch time after you know, Ka's done with driver's training.
Speaker 1: But he just seems like he's done.
Speaker 2: Not willing to pay Jamier Gibbs nothing simply because he
Speaker 2: plays a running back position, and I just don't feel
Speaker 2: I understand. I've been frugal that way too. I have
Speaker 2: a twelve percent rule when it comes to the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: all that. But we have a top three guy this position.
Speaker 1: You get it. It's very easy you pay it. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's very easy you pay.
Speaker 2: They're like in the situation, weren't ready down to like
Speaker 2: we don't have a Dave Montgomery in the apps of
Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, the other guy we have someone.
Speaker 1: Baki's been playing running back for fucking three years. We
Speaker 1: have a change.
Speaker 2: I'm sory on a Jane, but Jako who Sure he's
Speaker 2: had some moments, but he's definitely a downtrend. You paid
Speaker 2: Jimmy and it is no brainer. It is is not
Speaker 2: a debate for me. No, it's not a debate. It
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a debate.
Speaker 1: And you.
Speaker 4: On top of that, his point today was don't do
Speaker 4: it early. It makes all the sense in the world
Speaker 4: to do it early. We talked about that. B Jon
Speaker 4: Robinson is gonna reset the market whether you like it
Speaker 4: or not, so it would make sense to get Jamir
Speaker 4: Gibbs done before he does that, so you don't have
Speaker 4: to reset the market again. I would pay Jamir Gibbs
Speaker 4: today if I was Brad Holmes, I would make sure
Speaker 4: that you get the deal done before Bjon Robinson gets paid.
Speaker 4: You cleared the landing zone, you dumped off the extra luggage.
Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs is your guy, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 4: For some reason why you wouldn't like that, but you
Speaker 4: were paying him probably the most expensive and lucrative contract
Speaker 4: the running back has ever seen in the NFL, and
Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks after he gets paid that
Speaker 4: Bjeon's gonna get a bigger one, so be first to
Speaker 4: the party, or you're gonna have to pay more, Ray Gutaros.
Speaker 2: And ever since I heard Gordon say it the other way,
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to go roll down Ray Gautaros and shot
Speaker 2: to him. He says, Jeff not against paying Gibbs, He's
Speaker 2: against paying.
Speaker 1: Him early, which is different.
Speaker 2: That's more fair, that's more fair. But still I'm kind
Speaker 2: of in the same camp with spinning. Yeah I'm getting
Speaker 2: at a discount. Yeah, absolutely, I'd rather get him before Gibbs.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for Bejon gets paid for the next guy
Speaker 2: gets paid because you're paying no more.
Speaker 6: And when you're just top three in your position, like
Speaker 6: and I have a chance to lock you down early,
Speaker 6: I'm always going to do that.
Speaker 5: Every single time, every single time.
Speaker 6: That's usually the smart move to do to aid the
Speaker 6: lockdown at that position, especially in a position of that
Speaker 6: in points where, like you said, you don't have the
Speaker 6: insurance of Manti anymore.
Speaker 4: And you had Montgomery there lightning the load, so it's
Speaker 4: not like he was getting three hundred and fifty carries
Speaker 4: every year. Since I saw him use the point of
Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott. Ezekiel Elliott was getting three hundred carries since
Speaker 4: he stepped into the league. That's not what Jamir Gibbs did.
Speaker 4: You slow played him on purpose. So when you pay
Speaker 4: him his biggest contract in the league, he's not gonna
Speaker 4: be run down because he was splitting a backfield for
Speaker 4: his rookie contract.
Speaker 1: That's why they have.
Speaker 4: The Lions have taken every step to make sure that
Speaker 4: they paid Jamir Gibbs the most money possible, like it's
Speaker 4: gonna happen, and I would do it before Bijeon gets paid.
Speaker 2: And I guess I know there's risk with it at
Speaker 2: the running back position. And I did hear the examples
Speaker 2: that Jeff brought up, and I don't necessarily agree he
Speaker 2: brought up Ezekiel Ezekiel had more good years after he
Speaker 2: got paid.
Speaker 1: Not the tail end of it.
Speaker 2: They look pretty no, But also Ezekie Elliott, like fucking
Speaker 2: three hundred carries a.
Speaker 1: Year, Yes, he was a lone guy.
Speaker 4: His rookie year, he had three hundred and twenty two carries.
Speaker 4: Jamir Gibbs hasn't passed three hundred once like they did
Speaker 4: it on purpose, and he brought up Zeke, which again
Speaker 4: you can't make the comparison. Cazique was the bellcow from
Speaker 4: his first snap and Todd Gurley, who has degenerative knees?
Speaker 4: Would I pay Todd Gurley? If yes, you're paying Todd Gurley?
Speaker 4: Did you see what he did? He just has degenerative knees,
Speaker 4: Like you're you're paying Jremior Gibbs, And I.
Speaker 2: Go to the other camp of it too, like, okay,
Speaker 2: we can talk about guys got paid and didn't work
Speaker 2: out well. About Chrisian McCaffrey. He's got hurt here and there,
Speaker 2: but he's still been phenomenal. He's phenomenal last year, could
Speaker 2: have win Offensive Play of the Year. How about I
Speaker 2: jump over to say Quon Barkley, Derrick Henry, It's worked
Speaker 2: out other ways as well. I'm with it again, an
Speaker 2: any running back that's not in a top five conversation,
Speaker 2: I'm there with you. I'm with you guys, whether it
Speaker 2: be early, whether it be at all, I'm like, let's
Speaker 2: go find another guy. Devon a Chang fourth rounday, I
Speaker 2: mean could point to so many guys across the league
Speaker 2: late round picks worked out running back when he have
Speaker 2: a top three guy at the position. He's special and
Speaker 2: you've seen him win games for you, like an instance,
Speaker 2: the Giants game or since the NFC champion I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the NFC nowrth Championship game last week, Bucks.
Speaker 1: Game last year, Bocks game last year. Oh yeah he did,
Speaker 1: yeah King's game with super Chanted one. You pay Gibbs
Speaker 1: because I named my dog after him. Damn it, that's
Speaker 1: fucking that's great, It's great. It's sick. I wish I
Speaker 1: thought of that. Gibby would be a cool though. Imagine
Speaker 1: what has Brice named Jimmy? I should justly knew.
Speaker 2: He had some black And oh Yeahisha, you look like
Speaker 2: you want to say, don't pay the man.
Speaker 3: No, I think I don't really know what perspective Jeff
Speaker 3: is really looking at. I think Gibbs is one of
Speaker 3: those players that elevates this team efficiency wise, and like
Speaker 3: he is maybe not the most important person on this offense,
Speaker 3: but like we would suffer it's top three, we would
Speaker 3: suffer so much without him. So yeah, you know you're
Speaker 3: gonna sign him no matter what. So either you can
Speaker 3: save money and sign him early, or you can lose
Speaker 3: money and sign him later. So I don't really know
Speaker 3: what the argument is even about. To be honest, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see, Like.
Speaker 4: A if you if you were adverse to paying Jamiir Gibbs,
Speaker 4: you're just like looking for something. And I know Je,
Speaker 4: I know Jeff knows they're gonna pay him. I think
Speaker 4: he's just saying wait. But if he doesn't want to
Speaker 4: pay Jamier Gibbs in general, then I don't know.
Speaker 3: But well, the only thing I can like think of is.
Speaker 1: Like waiting makes it Waiting makes it worse.
Speaker 3: Don't Like, if you're gonna wait, the only reason you
Speaker 3: would wait, I guess is to not pay him, because
Speaker 3: running back is just one of those positions where like
Speaker 3: you can go get another guy, but you can't go
Speaker 3: get another Jami Gibbs. Like That's that's why it doesn't
Speaker 3: really make sense to me. But like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you see what K nine happened with the Seahawks after
Speaker 3: winning MVP, But like Gibbs is much better than a
Speaker 3: K nine.
Speaker 4: Too, So like especially while like running backs are back
Speaker 4: in the draft now, like Gibbs an example, Yeah, like
Speaker 4: you're drafting multiple running backs in the first round again.
Speaker 1: I just again, I'm with you with any other guy.
Speaker 1: It's not top three, but if you have a top
Speaker 1: three guy his position that you pay him.
Speaker 4: And they have done taken every precaution since they drafted
Speaker 4: him to make sure he will be ready to be
Speaker 4: a bellcut in his second contract when he would be
Speaker 4: getting paid twenty plus million dollars a year. Uh shod
Speaker 4: with the super chat, says Dog. These fans are not
Speaker 4: gonna sit here and think these rbs are gonna take
Speaker 4: the minimum wage salary just because of the risk of injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, if you don't pay jim Her Gibbs, he's he's
Speaker 4: not gonna He's not gonna hold out this year, but
Speaker 4: next year he will. If you don't have his contract
Speaker 4: done by next year, he'll hold out.
Speaker 3: Steve Liaman like, efficiency wise, you think that if Jamiir
Speaker 3: Gibbs was not on this team we would be more efficient?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like, I like, I don't understand if you just have
Speaker 3: a comprehension issue or you just don't understand. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Steve, I know was in the big camp of Monty
Speaker 2: was better than Gibbs last year. I think I could
Speaker 2: be of a memory correctly. I know he's been you
Speaker 2: know he was upset that Magic to get carried, as
Speaker 2: we all were. I think they should have been split
Speaker 2: a little bit more too.
Speaker 6: But and that's but to say better, say better, it's
Speaker 6: a crazy take.
Speaker 1: What was he said that they'd be more efficient without Gibbs.
Speaker 3: I said, like, we would lose out on a lot
Speaker 3: of efficiency if Gibbs was not on this team, And
Speaker 3: he disagrees apparently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. He's the most efficient
Speaker 1: back if I'm being honest with.
Speaker 3: You, if Gibbs was not on this team.
Speaker 1: When I say you need them on the team.
Speaker 3: When I say efficiency, I mean like a lot, like
Speaker 3: a production, all of that. We would suffer as a
Speaker 3: team without Gibbs. Like, I don't there's nothing to really
Speaker 3: argue regarding that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there was a step could be made too.
Speaker 4: In his receiving game, he scored more touchdowns than anybody
Speaker 4: in the league since he entered it.
Speaker 3: Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: It's pretty good more than Barry. Yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 1: You mean you mean mail bagtime? First one? How the
Speaker 1: press are you in favor of the IRN war? Moving on?
Speaker 1: Shout that so right?
Speaker 4: Starting off strong mail bags?
Speaker 1: I saw Jalen Duran is for that. He's never mind.
Speaker 1: Let me shut up? Uh hen hole, hen hole? How
Speaker 1: do you say that?
Speaker 4: Hi?
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Speaker 2: Uh don't want to restructure golf because next year we
Speaker 2: can let golf walk since we gave him the no
Speaker 2: trade clause.
Speaker 1: We need that option. You can't let golf walk unless
Speaker 1: you got something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you ow him seventy million dollars in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Trust me, you think anybody up here was to say other
Speaker 2: than Skywalker, they like golf walking.
Speaker 1: Probably I'd be the second one line bin Ska.
Speaker 4: I cannot let them walkky They all had him hundreds
Speaker 4: of millions of dollars still.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't let me clarify something real quick, and
Speaker 3: I won't take a lot of time. But like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to let him walk because we have no
Speaker 3: plan after that. I just wish the situation was better.
Speaker 4: The way we could have let Golf walk is if
Speaker 4: they didn't restructure him, then you would have just paid
Speaker 4: him like seventy million dollars this year and you would
Speaker 4: have been able to let him walk and only owed
Speaker 4: him like twenty million or something like that. But they
Speaker 4: restructured and now you owe him like one hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty million dollars after this year the next two years.
Speaker 2: Mail Bag, you see the Avengers Doom Day trailer. I did,
Speaker 2: I did, and I was hype. I have a Fanals tattoo.
Speaker 2: If you guys don't, I have a fucking fantos in
Speaker 2: my legs.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Avengers game.
Speaker 5: You're gonna lock back in and catch up. I tell
Speaker 5: I tapped out after that game and all yeah, just.
Speaker 4: Just you leave it like that and just go in.
Speaker 4: You don't want it.
Speaker 6: Your you can watch is not go watch. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna watch all of them. More important one.
Speaker 2: Watch that Asian one and Shank Shank Chy that way,
Speaker 2: that's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Just watched Thunderball, were watched under Bolt?
Speaker 5: Did the Fantastic four one happened yet? Or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I heard watch watch Fantastic I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: I heard that watch like Fantastic four is gonna connect,
Speaker 1: so you should watch that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah that was the one with all girls,
Speaker 2: girl Powers.
Speaker 1: The mail Bags.
Speaker 3: I just already bought tickets.
Speaker 4: Mailbag fellas saying too much and those spoilers appreciate you.
Speaker 4: How good was the Odyssey? Reviews have been crazy good?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, let Skywalker on this because even
Speaker 1: want to talk about all day.
Speaker 4: He said, no spoilers and without saying too.
Speaker 1: Much, All right, well it's a three thousand year old story.
Speaker 3: This is the wrong podcast.
Speaker 4: It's one of the better movies I've ever seen in theaters.
Speaker 2: It was so this this I've going to appreciate even
Speaker 2: more after seeing it too, because I'm seeing like none
Speaker 2: of that stuff was CGI.
Speaker 1: They had like a little bit of CG that had
Speaker 1: Initially the little bit of CGI they had was to.
Speaker 2: Clean up like the puppet strings and ship they used
Speaker 2: for certain props. But like, it's a fucking I would
Speaker 2: go see it. It's a master you gotta go see
Speaker 2: it's a masterpiece. Honestly, it's like like a true art piece.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think about film that way, but.
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan that way, you feel that way.
Speaker 3: I think visually it is one of the most impressive
Speaker 3: like movie feats I've ever seen. Yeah, Like it looks
Speaker 3: like unbelievable. I didn't see it in Imax or Emax.
Speaker 3: I want to go back and just watch it on
Speaker 3: the full screen, Like, oh yeah, those shots are like,
Speaker 3: you gotta go to it is it's insane. It looks insane.
Speaker 4: You gotta go to AMC Forum thirty. It's I think
Speaker 4: it's a top three Christopher Nolan movie, and it's one
Speaker 4: of the best movies I've ever seen in theaters.
Speaker 1: Mail Bag early prediction.
Speaker 2: Will you enjoy Avengers Doom Day more over The Odyssey
Speaker 2: when it comes out No, probably not.
Speaker 5: Was that good.
Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm nervous if Doom three will be
Speaker 1: able to be I was honest.
Speaker 2: I'm just fucking mind blown by the os all. Just
Speaker 2: like the shots where they went their five different countries. Dude,
Speaker 2: they were in Italy, Greece, but like the fact that
Speaker 2: they're all the legitimately real and then the story is
Speaker 2: a lot like there's so much to go wrong in
Speaker 2: that because so many like ventures on the way to
Speaker 2: the main thing, like you could lose yourself and get
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He can still cut it all fucking tight. Yep, it's
Speaker 1: all moving along. It's three our movie. I didn't get bored.
Speaker 1: Puts you that way. Maybe at the end I felt
Speaker 1: it could be sped up a little bit.
Speaker 6: That's maybe that's anything. I think there's one play delivered
Speaker 6: in like he was talking to it.
Speaker 1: I can't say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you kind of like again, like you said,
Speaker 4: it's everybody should know how it ends. I mean Spooner
Speaker 4: didn't know what it was, and I told him what
Speaker 4: it was. No, I just didn't want him to expect
Speaker 4: like a war movie, Like it's not a war movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's is Journey Home from the War. You get war flashbacks,
Speaker 4: which you're sweet. Yeah, it was phenomenal, uh Zach, So,
Speaker 4: mail Bag, do you believe in Jesus?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do, Yes, I do, Mailbag. What's the greatest
Speaker 1: superhero movie of all time?
Speaker 5: Mine would be Basic but it's but it's Infinity War.
Speaker 5: I just liked that. It had to.
Speaker 6: That was the first movie that had like the dark ending. Oh, okay,
Speaker 6: that's a good one too.
Speaker 4: Dark Knight War, Dark Knight not close.
Speaker 1: I think I liked Captain American Civil War.
Speaker 6: I liked the dark ending though, because that was the
Speaker 6: first time I generally left a movie like dark It
Speaker 6: went like that.
Speaker 2: No Infinity War, Yeah, yeah, where I was like, oh ship,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: That's one of your falling along.
Speaker 2: I feel like if you watched Infinity War by itself,
Speaker 2: you want Hite the same as if you watch the
Speaker 2: build up, you know, yes.
Speaker 3: Like if we're talking, like actually best movie, the Dark
Speaker 3: Knight is definitely I think the best, but like from
Speaker 3: like my favorite just like from a childhood Sam ramis
Speaker 3: Spider Man three.
Speaker 1: I what. I absolutely love that. That's the worst spider
Speaker 1: Man movie ever made.
Speaker 3: It's a bad spider Man movie, but as a kid,
Speaker 3: like seeing that Holy Maguire, Like, yeah, all in.
Speaker 1: The Blacks, He's dancing in the middle of the street.
Speaker 3: I always appreciate that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, and it's dumb swoop.
Speaker 4: I think Iron Man if it's past you were a kid,
Speaker 4: If it's not.
Speaker 3: Dark Knight, Yeah, it's nostalgia.
Speaker 4: I would say Iron Man. The original Iron Man probably
Speaker 4: is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Uh, the osty glaze is a bit crazy.
Speaker 2: It was really awesome on a technical scale, but dumb
Speaker 2: as hell on some spots for no reason, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what could you possibly be talking about?
Speaker 4: I saw people were like Mane Helen of Troy, Like
Speaker 4: the lore behind her is.
Speaker 1: That she was hatched from an egg. She was born
Speaker 1: by some