Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: And joining me now is the nice exercise Lady Claudine Cooper,
Speaker 2: Claudine is good to talk to you again.
Speaker 3: How are you tonight?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great.
Speaker 5: How are you mom?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
Speaker 2: And I came across this article and it reminded me
Speaker 2: painfully in many ways that AI is coming for all
Speaker 2: of us, coming for our jobs, going to replace us,
Speaker 2: going to somehow insert a wedge between us and other people.
Speaker 2: And I saw this article which says seven ways you
Speaker 2: can use chat GPT for your mental health and wellness.
Speaker 2: I don't work in that space, so I'm not as
Speaker 2: intimately connected to it. But when I saw the headline
Speaker 2: and I read the article, I was thinking, are we
Speaker 2: on the verge of some people losing some jobs? Or
Speaker 2: is that too far off?
Speaker 5: I don't think you're wrong. I mean, here's a couple
Speaker 5: of things I've noticed. I did read the article that
Speaker 5: you sent to me, and I've noticed a few things.
Speaker 5: People now they don't have to hire a personal trainer
Speaker 5: because they can go on chat GPT and say, hey,
Speaker 5: I need a workout specifically for lower body and it'll
Speaker 5: literally outline everything you need to know. Pop your headphones on,
Speaker 5: go to the gym, don't talk to a single soul,
Speaker 5: have your phone up, and it'll tell you everything that
Speaker 5: you need to do. Now here's the pitfalls with that.
Speaker 5: If you have a one on one trainer and you're
Speaker 5: doing an exercise and you're a little bit off in
Speaker 5: your technique, the trainer can say, hey, listen, separate your
Speaker 5: feet a little bit more, drop your hips a little further.
Speaker 5: Things like that that you won't get if you're using chat,
Speaker 5: GPT or AI as your personal trainer. But as you know,
Speaker 5: I specialize in groups fitness that is related to bringing
Speaker 5: people together, which is excellent for the mental health. And
Speaker 5: because of that, I don't think my j is replaceable.
Speaker 1: MO.
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying about that.
Speaker 3: What about the feasibility?
Speaker 2: Because although I can picture you working with people and
Speaker 2: being able to modify their workouts or adjust subtleties, when
Speaker 2: we're talking about mental health, that's a completely different ballgame, seemingly,
Speaker 2: because you have someone interacting with artificial intelligence, not looking
Speaker 2: them in their eyes, not making that emotional or personal connection.
Speaker 2: Can chat GPT as it's presently constructed offer something for
Speaker 2: someone who is concerned about increasing their mental health or
Speaker 2: mental wellness.
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 5: So in the article, what it was saying was that
Speaker 5: there are people who actually go on chat GPT to
Speaker 5: use it as a therapist.
Speaker 4: And I had never heard anything like this before.
Speaker 5: But look, kind of I'm not as well versed in
Speaker 5: chat GPS and AI. I think maybe we need to
Speaker 5: bring in Marsha into the conversation, you know, our tech lady. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I do know enough about it because I am
Speaker 5: living in the house with teenagers and chatchept and AI
Speaker 5: is all the rave when it comes to the young
Speaker 5: people and doing their research projects, their school homework and
Speaker 5: things like that. But that's a sidebar conversation. I'll keep
Speaker 5: it to this. I would have never thought to go
Speaker 5: on chat GPT and say, hey, I'm having a difficult
Speaker 5: time connecting with a person in my life. Can you
Speaker 5: give me some tips? But when I read the article,
Speaker 5: I realized that there are people who are using chat
Speaker 5: GPT for things like this. And although chatchept will give
Speaker 5: you the responses that you need if you're having a
Speaker 5: difficult conversation or a difficult time connecting with a certain person.
Speaker 5: There's nothing that can compare to eye contact, at least
Speaker 5: that's me with my fifty year old But what.
Speaker 2: Say you, mo, I think the eye contact is essential
Speaker 2: because we're talking about human connection and how do we
Speaker 2: first connect through the eyes, through the physical acknowledgment of
Speaker 2: the presence of someone else.
Speaker 3: That's why if we happen to be.
Speaker 2: On zoom, it's always more preferable to have your camera on.
Speaker 3: So there is a level of connection.
Speaker 2: That's the level of connection that I don't think is
Speaker 2: possible through a prompt and script or even artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: But according to the article we were talking about, it
Speaker 2: is being used by people as organization for a brain
Speaker 2: dump or you can just let everything out without fear
Speaker 2: of judgment, provide psycho education of brainstorming, coping strategies, organizing
Speaker 2: your to do lists. Almost an assistant more than just
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. I don't disagree or debate the fact that
Speaker 2: it probably has some usefulness. I do wonder whether it
Speaker 2: can help someone one who may be dealing with particular
Speaker 2: issues or complications in their emotional well being.
Speaker 5: Okay, so basically what I found, what I read, or
Speaker 5: how I interpreted it was that Let's say you have
Speaker 5: trouble with time management and you need to organize your
Speaker 5: to do lists. You can go into chap GPT and
Speaker 5: do a brain dump and they will help you organize
Speaker 5: and manage your time.
Speaker 4: But you still have to be the executor. You still
Speaker 4: have to take that action.
Speaker 5: Yes, chat GPT can help you and it can tell
Speaker 5: you what you need to do, but if you're not
Speaker 5: doing it, is it really helpful at the end of
Speaker 5: the day. Right, And today, while I was at the gym,
Speaker 5: I was on the main floor, which is where the
Speaker 5: strength training the beefcake guys go and lift the weights, right,
Speaker 5: And so I was talking to one of the guys
Speaker 5: and he was like, oh, you know, today is the
Speaker 5: one year anniversary of my mother's passing. And because I
Speaker 5: don't go on social media and I don't use any
Speaker 5: of the technology that's at our fingertips, I want to
Speaker 5: show you a picture of my mom.
Speaker 4: And I thought that was so special moment. And I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell you why.
Speaker 5: Because there are people who are yearning for human connection,
Speaker 5: but they don't want to put themselves out into the
Speaker 5: world on the Internet, and so they're looking to connect
Speaker 5: in person. And one of the best places to do
Speaker 5: that is still the gym. There's other places. There's church,
Speaker 5: there's sorority and fraternity meetings, but it is still a
Speaker 5: great place to connect the gym.
Speaker 2: There if I were to read in what you were saying,
Speaker 2: and please correct me if I'm wrong, there is no
Speaker 2: substitute for the human connection, the physical interaction, to be
Speaker 2: able to enjoy the commonality of just being human together.
Speaker 5: I feel like that is one of the things that
Speaker 5: we are missing, And you're right, the nail on the head,
Speaker 5: there's nothing that can quite compare to that eye contact,
Speaker 5: that human to human interaction, and him just wanting to
Speaker 5: share that it was one year of his mother's passing
Speaker 5: and let me show you a picture of her real
Speaker 5: simple didn't take more than two minutes of my time
Speaker 5: to just say I see you, I hear you, I'm
Speaker 5: standing with you in your grieve today, you know.
Speaker 4: And no social media was involved.
Speaker 2: Nor chat gpt not to sell it short. I don't
Speaker 2: think he could have done anything for that individual or
Speaker 2: anyone else who was looking for an emotional acknowledgment and
Speaker 2: recognition of this moment of his mother's passing. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: when we come back, we're getting close to spring, it's
Speaker 2: daylight saving time. The more sunlight to the day, love it,
Speaker 2: love it, love it. And so when we come back
Speaker 2: Cloning Cooper, I want to go into I'll guess the
Speaker 2: psychology of how people maybe are more inclined to get
Speaker 2: into the gym, maybe start thinking about that bikini or
Speaker 2: beach body as it were, and how people not only
Speaker 2: their physical bodies change, but their psychology also changes. Can
Speaker 2: you do that for me, Claudine, I'm ready when you are.
Speaker 2: It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm speaking with the nice
Speaker 2: exercise lady, Claudie Cooper. Go to Claudiancooper dot com to
Speaker 2: find out more about her, and we'll have more in
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: KFI Mo Kelly and Claudiane Cooper go to Claudiancooper dot com.
Speaker 2: We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And Claudine,
Speaker 2: as I look outside, the sun's finally gone down, but
Speaker 2: I had sunlight up until the time of the start
Speaker 2: of my show.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the days are getting longer.
Speaker 2: Some kids are on spring break right now, which is
Speaker 2: weird for me because my spring break growing up was
Speaker 2: always tied to the Easter weekend. It's not like that anymore,
Speaker 2: depending on school district. But I wonder in what you
Speaker 2: do now that we are trending towards spring, now that
Speaker 2: there are more hours of sunlight in the day, Now
Speaker 2: that people may be thinking about getting themselves their beach
Speaker 2: body or their revenge body, or whatever it may be,
Speaker 2: which motivates them. What type of trends or changes in
Speaker 2: people's psychology or motivation do you see in the gym?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Wow, Well you've just asked a multitude of questions. My
Speaker 5: head is spinning, but I gotta say this, Spring is
Speaker 5: always a great time in the gym. People are prepping
Speaker 5: for summer, for sure, maybe getting ready for their spring
Speaker 5: break vacations. My daughter just came in town last week,
Speaker 5: so she was home for spring break. And like you,
Speaker 5: I remember spring break being the week before Easter or
Speaker 5: the week after Easter. This year, Easter doesn't fall until
Speaker 5: the end of April, so people are having their spring
Speaker 5: breaks a little bit earlier. My daughter and I had
Speaker 5: a wonderful time together bring break that home this year,
Speaker 5: I feel like seasonal depression is real, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think we have to I think we have to
Speaker 5: just go there. Because we already talked about how chat
Speaker 5: GPT is being used as a therapist.
Speaker 4: So one of the things you might ask chat GPT is.
Speaker 5: How do I get over my seasonal depression? And the
Speaker 5: truth is, we just need a little bit more outside time,
Speaker 5: a little bit more daylight, a little bit more sunlight.
Speaker 5: And so what I'm noticing, and this is just my
Speaker 5: observation because I see hundreds of people every day, I'm
Speaker 5: noticing a lightness, a happiness, a greater amount of joy
Speaker 5: and connection between people. And maybe I'm imagining things mo,
Speaker 5: but I really attribute this to the longer days and
Speaker 5: to the change of seasons.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's your imagination. It's been well documented
Speaker 2: that the winter months brings about more depression for people,
Speaker 2: more sorrow, people might be emotionally down during the holidays.
Speaker 2: All of that figures together, But does that change how
Speaker 2: you in your profession interact with others well?
Speaker 5: As you know, I love being outside, I love going outside,
Speaker 5: I love working out outside, and you know, the weather.
Speaker 4: Although we are in southern California.
Speaker 5: There is a shift, even though it's not a huge
Speaker 5: seasonal shift like you have in the Midwest. But I
Speaker 5: will tell you I've noticed more people showing up to
Speaker 5: my outdoor workouts on Saturday mornings. We had close to
Speaker 5: one hundred people when it was sunny and bright and warm.
Speaker 5: You know, it's definitely a difference in what I do.
Speaker 5: My classes in the gym are even more crowded than usual.
Speaker 5: People are showing up for themselves in ways that when
Speaker 5: you're cozy at home eating your comfort food and it's
Speaker 5: cold outside and it's dark at night, you don't feel
Speaker 5: as compelled to get up, go to Pilate's class, get up,
Speaker 5: go to the gym. It's a lot more challenging when
Speaker 5: the weather is cold or when the days are short
Speaker 5: to get up and be motivated to workout. So I
Speaker 5: have seen a big difference.
Speaker 2: Since you have seen that big difference, and you made
Speaker 2: mention of your free community workouts on Saturday and more
Speaker 2: than a hundred people came out before. What are you
Speaker 2: expecting for this approaching weekend? And also let's remind people
Speaker 2: how they can be part of it.
Speaker 5: Well, one never knows what's gonna happen. I mean the
Speaker 5: weather has been a little tricky. I mean it was
Speaker 5: raining last week and then boom the day of my workout,
Speaker 5: it was funny. So you just never know. I'll say
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter to me if I have ten people
Speaker 5: or one hundred and ten people, I'm still going to
Speaker 5: give people a great workout. It's no equipment needed, no mats,
Speaker 5: nothing except for a positive attitude and a willingness to work.
Speaker 4: You just come there.
Speaker 5: We have free parking, a farmer's market, a free workout.
Speaker 4: It's right in the middle of Inglewood. I kind of
Speaker 4: don't know if people know the area yet.
Speaker 5: Last night I was walking home from workm and there
Speaker 5: were guys walking around and they were like, wait, so
Speaker 5: Sofi Stadium is over there, and then the Clippers Arena
Speaker 5: is right there, and they were.
Speaker 4: Like, so what is this And I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is a gym.
Speaker 5: They're like a gym is here too, and they were
Speaker 5: so flabberg acid because they're like what is going on
Speaker 5: around here? Like they didn't know nothing about this. And
Speaker 5: I say that to say maybe people listening don't know either.
Speaker 5: But there's this little intersection Century Boulevard and Prairie We
Speaker 5: have a huge new development where Sofi Stadium in Hollywood
Speaker 5: Park Casino, and all of these things are in the
Speaker 5: same little area, the Into It Dome Posum.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of things going on right here,
Speaker 4: but in the middle of.
Speaker 5: It, I host a free workout every Saturday at nine am,
Speaker 5: and you're welcome to join.
Speaker 2: I have done it on a few occasions. It is
Speaker 2: well worth your time and well worth your energy. And
Speaker 2: there's something about being outside. You made mentioned in this earlier,
Speaker 2: but I want to highlight it one more time. There's
Speaker 2: something about being outside in that communal element. We were
Speaker 2: talking earlier about chat GPT and lacking that human interaction
Speaker 2: and connection. It's something that improves your workout and inspires
Speaker 2: your workout. That's just from my first person experience of it,
Speaker 2: and it made it all that more rewarding at the end.
Speaker 5: Well, it's that too, But since we're talking about mental
Speaker 5: and emotional wellness, there is well documented data that suggests
Speaker 5: that when you are working out outside and with people,
Speaker 5: that's like a trifecta. It's the exercise, it's the mental wellness,
Speaker 5: and it's the human connection that really brings us back
Speaker 5: into our bodies and Centers US. So I would love
Speaker 5: to see anyone who's open to just showing up. Don't
Speaker 5: need a lot of details, no registration necessary, just show up.
Speaker 2: And then show out. She's Clauding Cooper. Find out more
Speaker 2: at Claudinecooper dot com. We're always pleased to have the
Speaker 2: nice exercise lady. And you think, well, where does that
Speaker 2: come from? That came from Mark Ronner and it just stuck.
Speaker 2: Clauding is always good to see you, and I hope
Speaker 2: to see you and talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4: I'll see you next week.
Speaker 5: Mol thank you for having me and I look forward
Speaker 5: to meeting up again soon.
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