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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And joining me now is the nice exercise Lady Claudine Cooper,

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<v Speaker 2>Claudine is good to talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you mom?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I came across this article and it reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>painfully in many ways that AI is coming for all

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<v Speaker 2>of us, coming for our jobs, going to replace us,

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<v Speaker 2>going to somehow insert a wedge between us and other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I saw this article which says seven ways you

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<v Speaker 2>can use chat GPT for your mental health and wellness.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't work in that space, so I'm not as

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<v Speaker 2>intimately connected to it. But when I saw the headline

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<v Speaker 2>and I read the article, I was thinking, are we

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<v Speaker 2>on the verge of some people losing some jobs? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is that too far off?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you're wrong. I mean, here's a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of things I've noticed. I did read the article that

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<v Speaker 5>you sent to me, and I've noticed a few things.

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<v Speaker 5>People now they don't have to hire a personal trainer

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<v Speaker 5>because they can go on chat GPT and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I need a workout specifically for lower body and it'll

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<v Speaker 5>literally outline everything you need to know. Pop your headphones on,

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<v Speaker 5>go to the gym, don't talk to a single soul,

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<v Speaker 5>have your phone up, and it'll tell you everything that

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<v Speaker 5>you need to do. Now here's the pitfalls with that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have a one on one trainer and you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing an exercise and you're a little bit off in

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<v Speaker 5>your technique, the trainer can say, hey, listen, separate your

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<v Speaker 5>feet a little bit more, drop your hips a little further.

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<v Speaker 5>Things like that that you won't get if you're using chat,

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<v Speaker 5>GPT or AI as your personal trainer. But as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I specialize in groups fitness that is related to bringing

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<v Speaker 5>people together, which is excellent for the mental health. And

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<v Speaker 5>because of that, I don't think my j is replaceable.

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<v Speaker 1>MO.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I'm saying about that.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the feasibility?

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<v Speaker 2>Because although I can picture you working with people and

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<v Speaker 2>being able to modify their workouts or adjust subtleties, when

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about mental health, that's a completely different ballgame, seemingly,

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<v Speaker 2>because you have someone interacting with artificial intelligence, not looking

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<v Speaker 2>them in their eyes, not making that emotional or personal connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Can chat GPT as it's presently constructed offer something for

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is concerned about increasing their mental health or

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<v Speaker 2>mental wellness.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 5>So in the article, what it was saying was that

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<v Speaker 5>there are people who actually go on chat GPT to

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<v Speaker 5>use it as a therapist.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had never heard anything like this before.

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<v Speaker 5>But look, kind of I'm not as well versed in

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<v Speaker 5>chat GPS and AI. I think maybe we need to

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<v Speaker 5>bring in Marsha into the conversation, you know, our tech lady. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I do know enough about it because I am

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<v Speaker 5>living in the house with teenagers and chatchept and AI

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<v Speaker 5>is all the rave when it comes to the young

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<v Speaker 5>people and doing their research projects, their school homework and

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<v Speaker 5>things like that. But that's a sidebar conversation. I'll keep

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<v Speaker 5>it to this. I would have never thought to go

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<v Speaker 5>on chat GPT and say, hey, I'm having a difficult

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<v Speaker 5>time connecting with a person in my life. Can you

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<v Speaker 5>give me some tips? But when I read the article,

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<v Speaker 5>I realized that there are people who are using chat

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<v Speaker 5>GPT for things like this. And although chatchept will give

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<v Speaker 5>you the responses that you need if you're having a

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<v Speaker 5>difficult conversation or a difficult time connecting with a certain person.

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<v Speaker 5>There's nothing that can compare to eye contact, at least

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<v Speaker 5>that's me with my fifty year old But what.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you, mo, I think the eye contact is essential

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<v Speaker 2>because we're talking about human connection and how do we

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<v Speaker 2>first connect through the eyes, through the physical acknowledgment of

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why if we happen to be.

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<v Speaker 2>On zoom, it's always more preferable to have your camera on.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is a level of connection.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the level of connection that I don't think is

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<v Speaker 2>possible through a prompt and script or even artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>But according to the article we were talking about, it

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<v Speaker 2>is being used by people as organization for a brain

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<v Speaker 2>dump or you can just let everything out without fear

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<v Speaker 2>of judgment, provide psycho education of brainstorming, coping strategies, organizing

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<v Speaker 2>your to do lists. Almost an assistant more than just

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence. I don't disagree or debate the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>it probably has some usefulness. I do wonder whether it

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<v Speaker 2>can help someone one who may be dealing with particular

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<v Speaker 2>issues or complications in their emotional well being.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so basically what I found, what I read, or

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<v Speaker 5>how I interpreted it was that Let's say you have

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<v Speaker 5>trouble with time management and you need to organize your

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<v Speaker 5>to do lists. You can go into chap GPT and

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<v Speaker 5>do a brain dump and they will help you organize

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<v Speaker 5>and manage your time.

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<v Speaker 4>But you still have to be the executor. You still

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<v Speaker 4>have to take that action.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, chat GPT can help you and it can tell

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<v Speaker 5>you what you need to do, but if you're not

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<v Speaker 5>doing it, is it really helpful at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day. Right, And today, while I was at the gym,

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<v Speaker 5>I was on the main floor, which is where the

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<v Speaker 5>strength training the beefcake guys go and lift the weights, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And so I was talking to one of the guys

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<v Speaker 5>and he was like, oh, you know, today is the

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<v Speaker 5>one year anniversary of my mother's passing. And because I

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<v Speaker 5>don't go on social media and I don't use any

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<v Speaker 5>of the technology that's at our fingertips, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>show you a picture of my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought that was so special moment. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna tell you why.

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<v Speaker 5>Because there are people who are yearning for human connection,

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<v Speaker 5>but they don't want to put themselves out into the

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<v Speaker 5>world on the Internet, and so they're looking to connect

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<v Speaker 5>in person. And one of the best places to do

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<v Speaker 5>that is still the gym. There's other places. There's church,

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<v Speaker 5>there's sorority and fraternity meetings, but it is still a

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<v Speaker 5>great place to connect the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>There if I were to read in what you were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>and please correct me if I'm wrong, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>substitute for the human connection, the physical interaction, to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to enjoy the commonality of just being human together.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>we are missing, And you're right, the nail on the head,

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing that can quite compare to that eye contact,

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<v Speaker 5>that human to human interaction, and him just wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>share that it was one year of his mother's passing

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<v Speaker 5>and let me show you a picture of her real

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<v Speaker 5>simple didn't take more than two minutes of my time

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<v Speaker 5>to just say I see you, I hear you, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>standing with you in your grieve today, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And no social media was involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Nor chat gpt not to sell it short. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he could have done anything for that individual or

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else who was looking for an emotional acknowledgment and

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<v Speaker 2>recognition of this moment of his mother's passing. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back, we're getting close to spring, it's

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<v Speaker 2>daylight saving time. The more sunlight to the day, love it,

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<v Speaker 2>love it, love it. And so when we come back

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<v Speaker 2>Cloning Cooper, I want to go into I'll guess the

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<v Speaker 2>psychology of how people maybe are more inclined to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the gym, maybe start thinking about that bikini or

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<v Speaker 2>beach body as it were, and how people not only

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<v Speaker 2>their physical bodies change, but their psychology also changes. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you do that for me, Claudine, I'm ready when you are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm speaking with the nice

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<v Speaker 2>exercise lady, Claudie Cooper. Go to Claudiancooper dot com to

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<v Speaker 2>find out more about her, and we'll have more in

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<v Speaker 2>just a moment. CAFI AM six forty Live everywhere in

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI Mo Kelly and Claudiane Cooper go to Claudiancooper dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And Claudine,

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<v Speaker 2>as I look outside, the sun's finally gone down, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had sunlight up until the time of the start

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<v Speaker 2>of my show.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, the days are getting longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Some kids are on spring break right now, which is

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<v Speaker 2>weird for me because my spring break growing up was

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<v Speaker 2>always tied to the Easter weekend. It's not like that anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on school district. But I wonder in what you

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<v Speaker 2>do now that we are trending towards spring, now that

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<v Speaker 2>there are more hours of sunlight in the day, Now

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<v Speaker 2>that people may be thinking about getting themselves their beach

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<v Speaker 2>body or their revenge body, or whatever it may be,

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<v Speaker 2>which motivates them. What type of trends or changes in

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<v Speaker 2>people's psychology or motivation do you see in the gym?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, Well you've just asked a multitude of questions. My

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<v Speaker 5>head is spinning, but I gotta say this, Spring is

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<v Speaker 5>always a great time in the gym. People are prepping

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<v Speaker 5>for summer, for sure, maybe getting ready for their spring

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<v Speaker 5>break vacations. My daughter just came in town last week,

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<v Speaker 5>so she was home for spring break. And like you,

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<v Speaker 5>I remember spring break being the week before Easter or

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<v Speaker 5>the week after Easter. This year, Easter doesn't fall until

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<v Speaker 5>the end of April, so people are having their spring

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<v Speaker 5>breaks a little bit earlier. My daughter and I had

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<v Speaker 5>a wonderful time together bring break that home this year,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like seasonal depression is real, and I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think we have to I think we have to

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<v Speaker 5>just go there. Because we already talked about how chat

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<v Speaker 5>GPT is being used as a therapist.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the things you might ask chat GPT is.

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<v Speaker 5>How do I get over my seasonal depression? And the

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<v Speaker 5>truth is, we just need a little bit more outside time,

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more daylight, a little bit more sunlight.

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<v Speaker 5>And so what I'm noticing, and this is just my

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<v Speaker 5>observation because I see hundreds of people every day, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>noticing a lightness, a happiness, a greater amount of joy

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<v Speaker 5>and connection between people. And maybe I'm imagining things mo,

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<v Speaker 5>but I really attribute this to the longer days and

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<v Speaker 5>to the change of seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's your imagination. It's been well documented

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<v Speaker 2>that the winter months brings about more depression for people,

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<v Speaker 2>more sorrow, people might be emotionally down during the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that figures together, But does that change how

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<v Speaker 2>you in your profession interact with others well?

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<v Speaker 5>As you know, I love being outside, I love going outside,

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<v Speaker 5>I love working out outside, and you know, the weather.

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<v Speaker 4>Although we are in southern California.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a shift, even though it's not a huge

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<v Speaker 5>seasonal shift like you have in the Midwest. But I

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<v Speaker 5>will tell you I've noticed more people showing up to

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<v Speaker 5>my outdoor workouts on Saturday mornings. We had close to

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred people when it was sunny and bright and warm.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's definitely a difference in what I do.

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<v Speaker 5>My classes in the gym are even more crowded than usual.

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<v Speaker 5>People are showing up for themselves in ways that when

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<v Speaker 5>you're cozy at home eating your comfort food and it's

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<v Speaker 5>cold outside and it's dark at night, you don't feel

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<v Speaker 5>as compelled to get up, go to Pilate's class, get up,

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<v Speaker 5>go to the gym. It's a lot more challenging when

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<v Speaker 5>the weather is cold or when the days are short

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<v Speaker 5>to get up and be motivated to workout. So I

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<v Speaker 5>have seen a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you have seen that big difference, and you made

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<v Speaker 2>mention of your free community workouts on Saturday and more

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<v Speaker 2>than a hundred people came out before. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>expecting for this approaching weekend? And also let's remind people

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<v Speaker 2>how they can be part of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, one never knows what's gonna happen. I mean the

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<v Speaker 5>weather has been a little tricky. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 5>raining last week and then boom the day of my workout,

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<v Speaker 5>it was funny. So you just never know. I'll say

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't matter to me if I have ten people

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<v Speaker 5>or one hundred and ten people, I'm still going to

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<v Speaker 5>give people a great workout. It's no equipment needed, no mats,

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<v Speaker 5>nothing except for a positive attitude and a willingness to work.

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<v Speaker 4>You just come there.

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<v Speaker 5>We have free parking, a farmer's market, a free workout.

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<v Speaker 4>It's right in the middle of Inglewood. I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if people know the area yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night I was walking home from workm and there

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<v Speaker 5>were guys walking around and they were like, wait, so

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<v Speaker 5>Sofi Stadium is over there, and then the Clippers Arena

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<v Speaker 4>Like, so what is this And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a gym.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like a gym is here too, and they were

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<v Speaker 5>so flabberg acid because they're like what is going on

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<v Speaker 5>around here? Like they didn't know nothing about this. And

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<v Speaker 5>I say that to say maybe people listening don't know either.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's this little intersection Century Boulevard and Prairie We

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<v Speaker 5>have a huge new development where Sofi Stadium in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 5>Park Casino, and all of these things are in the

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<v Speaker 5>same little area, the Into It Dome Posum.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of things going on right here,

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<v Speaker 4>but in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 5>It, I host a free workout every Saturday at nine am,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're welcome to join.

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<v Speaker 2>I have done it on a few occasions. It is

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<v Speaker 2>well worth your time and well worth your energy. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's something about being outside. You made mentioned in this earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to highlight it one more time. There's

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<v Speaker 2>something about being outside in that communal element. We were

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<v Speaker 2>talking earlier about chat GPT and lacking that human interaction

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<v Speaker 2>and connection. It's something that improves your workout and inspires

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<v Speaker 2>your workout. That's just from my first person experience of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it made it all that more rewarding at the end.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's that too, But since we're talking about mental

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<v Speaker 5>and emotional wellness, there is well documented data that suggests

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<v Speaker 5>that when you are working out outside and with people,

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<v Speaker 5>that's like a trifecta. It's the exercise, it's the mental wellness,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's the human connection that really brings us back

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<v Speaker 5>into our bodies and Centers US. So I would love

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<v Speaker 5>to see anyone who's open to just showing up. Don't

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<v Speaker 5>need a lot of details, no registration necessary, just show up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then show out. She's Clauding Cooper. Find out more

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<v Speaker 2>at Claudinecooper dot com. We're always pleased to have the

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<v Speaker 2>nice exercise lady. And you think, well, where does that

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<v Speaker 2>come from? That came from Mark Ronner and it just stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Clauding is always good to see you, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>to see you and talk to you again soon.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Mol thank you for having me and I look forward

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<v Speaker 5>to meeting up again soon.

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