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There's a blue sky ray rolling over the plane, and

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my good night see head coming.

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Speaker 2: It was too stick when she said, I can't love

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you man, and the more one chance is all I need.

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Speaker 3: Come on one more, baby, please.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't that before at you, no matter what I

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go through, because after one time you were the stars

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and my sky fire.

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Speaker 4: Sky ray.

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Speaker 1: Rolling over the plane. It's a blue sky rade rolling

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over the plane, and I good see it coming.

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Speaker 2: Was a big shot per fled romance.

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Speaker 3: It was a quick version of the slow dance. Unique

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the colors, but the.

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Speaker 5: Picture of clean.

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Speaker 6: I know where I should be, baby, it's nine years every.

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Speaker 1: Scary rolling over the plane.

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Speaker 7: There's a blue.

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Speaker 1: Skyy rolling over the plane.

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Speaker 6: I could not seek in coming, and I say some

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carrying me down?

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Speaker 1: So well, nobody will never know.

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Speaker 7: Tell men, what's your mask?

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Speaker 1: When you sit.

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Speaker 6: I will never let.

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Speaker 7: You go, never let you go.

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Speaker 7: I never let you go, I never let you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have yet to leave a woman who does

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not play with the strings of my heart.

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Speaker 3: I wish it was not so easy. Support of Peason

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and folly are But there's.

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Speaker 1: A blue skyy rolling over the plain. There's a blue

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skyray rolling over the plain. Well, there's a blue sky

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ray rolling over the plane. There's a blue skyy rolling

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over plane.

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Speaker 7: And I could.

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Speaker 3: See no, I could nice see incoming.

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Speaker 7: M n H rip the novels.

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Speaker 9: You're listening to Mattconnorton unleashed on double m n H

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ninety five point three.

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Speaker 4: I can no crack this.

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Speaker 10: I cannot crack that. It doesn't matter how the work,

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because I exist for me.

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Speaker 7: I can't walk or I can't trash.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how the way, because I talk for me.

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Chat resensor shuts my purpose.

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Speaker 11: You are some perfect even if you don't know man

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all my beer code, commage shoulder all the way.

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Speaker 8: I'm comforting, and this is just the way we're rolling.

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Speaker 10: This is just the way we're rolling.

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Speaker 12: I can sit down, oh, stand up to and that

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is just the way it's kind of going.

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Speaker 7: So I'll be me and you'll be you.

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Speaker 13: That is what we've got to do to try to

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get through you.

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Speaker 7: Chats my sister shuts my purpose.

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Speaker 11: You are some perfect even if you don't know all

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my people, commage shoulder all the way.

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Speaker 10: I converted that this is just the way we're roll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just.

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Speaker 4: The way you were rolling.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, somewhere to hurt your others will hurt you. Turn over,

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think kid, they don't you.

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Speaker 5: Sir, know that you'll come through everything there. You to

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be your own person. LIVEY for you, boy, you live

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I for you.

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Speaker 12: You can't leave that.

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Speaker 7: Shuts my sensor.

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Speaker 11: Shots, my brother, you are some perfect even if you don't.

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Speaker 7: Don't on a big pot the shoulder all the way

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Speaker 15: Yes, shuts my sisters, my brother start you want some perfect.

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Speaker 5: This is just the way.

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Speaker 15: This is just the late, this is just the place.

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Speaker 9: That is the way we're rolling. Lydia ready who we're

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going to be speaking with in just a moment, as

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Welcome everybody. We have entered our number three New Marrow

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listening live today is Saturday, September twentieth, twenty twenty five.

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et cetera, et cetera. Jenny is here, of course, at

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the news table, and let's bring her in right now.

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She is with us via Microsoft Teams Lydia Ready, Hello.

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Speaker 16: Lydia, Hey everyone, how's it going?

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Speaker 11: Good?

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Speaker 9: Good, welcome back. It's great to speak with you. You know,

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we uh we talked recently your your first single, Turned

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This Town Around, which we love, and then uh, and

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then we received this uh, The Way We're Rolling, which

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or a couple of weeks ago? Actually the American radio

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premiere of that, another great great track from you. I

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really like this a lot and absolutely, and so let's

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get into it. What what is this song about? I mean,

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I know what I took from it, but but tell us, uh,

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in your own words, what what is the meaning of

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this song? The Way We're Rolling?

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Speaker 16: This song is.

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Speaker 17: About just being completely yourself and loving yourself for who

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you are and live in each other.

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Speaker 9: And I think what I got from it too, it

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was also there's a strong message. I think they're about

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acceptance and h and not. You know, a lot of

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people and in are current not to get into this

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part of it, really, but you know, just in America,

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and I'm sure you see it from over there. Uh,

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you know, there's there's a lot of attension, a lot

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of people who have problems with other people who are

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different from them. And unfortunately that's always a facet of

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American life to some degree, it seems like right now

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it's it's gotten pretty dicey. But and and so sometimes

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I don't I don't know if they use the term

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there when talking about this, but in America people like

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to use the word tolerance or you know, you have

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to you have to tolerate people who are different. And

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I've never liked the word tolerance. I prefer the word

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acceptance because tolerance to me kind of sounds like, oh,

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you know, I don't really like people who are different

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from me, but I guess I can talk tolerate them.

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You know, I've always preferred the word acceptance. And that's

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when when I listen to that song, that's what I

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get from that song. But it's really about acceptance because

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we should we should celebrate our distance, our differences, not

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be uh, you know, not be fearful because of them,

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and and not to ostracize people because of them or

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other wise people. But but we should accept them. And

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that's that's kind of what I what I got from that,

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and and a sense of acceptance and solidarity. Am I?

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Am I right about that? Or am I reading too

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much into it?

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Speaker 3: Or what?

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Speaker 9: Say you?

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Speaker 16: No, You're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 17: It is a little bit deeper than just like loving yourself.

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It is about like all that kind of stuff. There

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is a lot of hate in the world at the moment,

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in probably all areas of the world.

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Speaker 16: And I was I'm just sick of it.

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Speaker 17: I was like, you know what, if a few people

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can hear a song and start accepting some other people,

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then my job's done.

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Speaker 9: Like I'm happy, right right.

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Speaker 9: What's interesting too, is because you know, yeah, there is

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a little bit of a deeper meaning. And and when

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kind of a similar discussion in the sense that and

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by the way, we're gonna play that track again too.

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conversation because I love I still love that song too.

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But what's so interesting about that song to me is.

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You know, if you're just listening to it sort of casually,

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not necessarily paying close attention to the lyrics, it just

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sounds like a catchy, fun song, almost like you know,

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you're you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, uh, you know,

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really make your mark in this town, this whatever town

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it is you're referring to in the song, and you know,

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there's it's got a certain anthemic quality to it, But

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it's only if you really pay attention to the lyrics

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that you realize that there's something deeper going on. There's

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a deeper meaning, and you're expressing concerns that maybe other

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people don't have but should have, you know, things that

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we should all be be concerned about and worried about.

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So underneath that that sort of that catchy, fun vibe,

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there's a there's a real serious message there. And I'm

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noticing with both of these songs, that's kind of the

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through line between them, Right, they're both catchy and fun,

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the lyrics, there's some very important messaging underneath that.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's definitely what I've been trying to do.

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Speaker 17: I feel a lot of the time, if you have

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kind of a serious message and partner it with serious,

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gloomy music, people might just skip on. But if you

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can't put this serious message with some a bit more

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catchy and up be it'll make people hopefully like, want

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to keep listening to it and then because of that

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Speaker 9: Mm hmmmm. Is that important to you as an artist,

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because I mean, I'm sure that you know if you

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wanted to, and maybe you will in the future, maybe

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maybe you'll have a song that that really is just

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kind of catchy and fun and it's and that's all

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it is. It's just like a catchy, fun sing along

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anthem or something. But is it is it really like,

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is it something that you do deliberately when you write

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these songs, you deliberately and intentionally put something serious underneath.

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Is that important to you as an artist?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it definitely is.

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Speaker 17: I've got quite a mixed obviously, not the ones that

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are just kind of fun, catchy. I've got one called

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X Business, which is just about like saying screw you

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to your X pretty much, and a few like that.

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next song that's coming out that's called look at Me Now,

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in it's more involving acceptance as a world. It's more

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like when people try and put you down, but your

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rise up and you're like, look at me now, I'm

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better than ever. That kind of vibe, and that's going

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to be a bit rockier. But I think for especially

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this first EP that I'm releasing my whole theme as

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I want there to be these big messages within these

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catchy melodies.

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Speaker 16: The second EP is where it's gonna go a little

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bit more fun.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so let's talk about that. So the trajectory so

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you have so you have an e P?

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Speaker 4: Is the EP?

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Speaker 9: Uh finished? The first one?

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Speaker 16: I finished recording them, but they're not out yet. I've

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only released the first two.

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Speaker 9: Yet now, okay, so but the EP has done. So

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then what's what's kind of the Do you have an

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ETA on when the EP will be out?

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Speaker 17: So I'm thinking, let me ever think, yeah, it will

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be out a little bit, probably early April, late March

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around that time.

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay, interesting? And then what is it? Five tracks?

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Six tracks. Yeah it is, it's five five five Okay,

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very good, very good. It's it's so interesting, how you know,

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there's so many different ways to release music now in

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and then singles, or put out singles and then they

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coalesce into an EP or or you know, however you

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choose to do it. There's there's really uh limitless options.

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really strong. And then so will there be a third

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single before the EP or or will you or is

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the EP the next thing that's coming out or do

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so there's going to be another single. It hasn't

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Speaker 9: Months time, okay.

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Speaker 16: And that's look at me now that I was just

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talking about.

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Speaker 17: Okay, and then we thought we want to wait until

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after Christmas because I think it gets a bit too

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busy then for people to bother about new music.

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Speaker 16: So probably January ish. I was well wrong when I

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said April January ish.

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Speaker 17: Okay, I'm gonna we're gonna put out like the whole

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EPA with the last two songs.

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Speaker 9: Okay, excellent, and then so but you're already talking about

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the next EP too. You you mentioned the next one,

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the next one? Because I think you said the next

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EP that you do is gonna be a little bit different.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, So the next one is like a concept EP,

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so it's all about kind of this relationship journey. So

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the first song on it is called why Do I

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Like You? And it's all about liking this bad boy

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and not wanting.

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quite Cynthie.

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Speaker 17: Then you've got one called real Life, which is one

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of my rocky tracks, and that's about you're with this

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bad boy but you don't like.

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Speaker 16: It anymore, you want to get out.

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Speaker 17: Then you've got track three, which is called Sorry. At

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this point you've broken up and he's trying to get

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you back and you're saying sorry, but it's not going

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to happen. Then you've got exp Business, which is a

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very upbeat one. It's quite jazzy, and that one is

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very similar to Sorry in the theme, but this time

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you're with a new boyfriend and you're saying go away,

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stop bothering me. And then the final song on that one.

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I'm currently writing it, and that's going to be you're

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with your new boyfriend and you're really happy.

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Speaker 9: Oh okay, well so I was happy. I mean, no,

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that's cool. So you've got a whole you've got a

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whole story planned out. That's uh, that's excellent. That's excellent. Yeah. Yeah,

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And you're thinking ahead, you're thinking long term, which is cool.

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And I think we might have talked about this too

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that before when you were on the show, because you know,

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a lot of times a lot of artists, you know,

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especially when they're when they're young in their career, you know,

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they they just kind of throw a lot of stuff

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against the wall and see what sticks. And there's nothing

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wrong with doing that because sometimes sometimes that's your only

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option if you if you're if you don't have a

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long term plan, you don't have a plan, and sometimes

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figuring out a plan is just trying different things and

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seeing what works. But you've really got a thought out plan,

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and uh, and I think that's I think that's great.

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Is that important to you to have a sense of

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certainty about where you're going and what you're doing and

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how you're going to approach this? Is that important to

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you as an artist.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's.

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Speaker 17: It's definitely very important because especially I've seen my brother

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is three years older than me, and he's been doing

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music since he was forty and he's twenty now, so

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I've seen him do everything, and I know how important

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it is to have these release plans and knowing exactly

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what's happening when in order to try and be successful.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. I remember you mentioning your brother too.

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Does he refresh my memory now? And of course newer

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listeners who might not have heard our previous conversation. Is

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he involved in the production of your music?

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Speaker 16: So he is in a few of the songs.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I've got a mix of him and three of

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my mates from college who all play different guitar and

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bass parts, because I write the songs and I can

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kind of just about play a bit of guitar and piano,

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but I'm not very good at it, so I get

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them to play it when I'm recording them.

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Speaker 9: Okay, gotcha? Gotcha? And what happens in terms of live

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do you do you play these out? Have you performed

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any of these songs live?

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Speaker 17: So generally, when I've been performing my songs live. My

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brother's been around and he's played the songs in the background.

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Speaker 9: Cool.

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Speaker 17: But now as I'm recording the songs, I'm actually getting

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back in tracks for.

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Speaker 16: Them as well.

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Speaker 17: I just hit my vocals off, so I'm nearly at

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the point where I could do a full set.

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Speaker 16: We just back in tracks.

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Speaker 17: But behind the scenes, which is all top secret, I'm

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actually rehearsing with the band of Summer, my mates from college,

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and we're putting together a show for my eighteenth birthday

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next year in April. But it's all very secret we're doing.

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I'm going to release it in December. The tickets.

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Speaker 9: Oh oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah, So I don't

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know how much more you can say about it, but

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I all right, well I'll ask you the question, and

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if you don't want to answer, I'll respect that. But

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but but are you planning to play the full EP?

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Speaker 4: I am?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, both EPs? Okay, awesome? Oh, very cool, very cool.

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All right, we'll have to have you back on before

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that happens, so we can we can get the update

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or if it's still a secret at that point, we'll

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see what more information we can get out of you.

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Speaker 16: But two singles time and it'll all be out there.

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Speaker 9: Well, we got to have when the next thing comes

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out too, we'll have to have you back on for

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that too, because you know, we're we're fans. We like

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what you're doing. So now, and so your brother, and

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tell me again, is he does he have a band currently?

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Speaker 16: He doesn't currently have about it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 9: No, okay, okay, because I remember you talking a little

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bit about him too. Did you come from a musical family? Like,

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are your parents also musicians?

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Speaker 16: Not all, but they love music.

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Speaker 17: They've like blasted music in the house all the time

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since I was tiny, and my grandma is a singer,

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so we think he might have come from my grandma.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Well, also to just having obviously if they're if

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your parents, even if they're not musicians, but if they're

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very into music, I'm sure they're very supportive of what

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you're doing and that that can make a huge difference,

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you know, especially when you're starting out in your career,

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you know, having a family that really supports you and

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is uh, you know, encouraging you, you know, because sometimes

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you know, some some families don't necessarily encourage their kids.

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You know, they'll say, they'll say, oh, what do you

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want to do this. You know, you should be more

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focused on whatever it is they think you should be doing.

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But you know, and they might not take it seriously.

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the parents who were like, don't, don't, don't, don't do that,

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don't play in a band, don't make music. You know,

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just focus on school, focus on whatever. But I think

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if I remember correctly, though, are you in school now?

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Are you in college?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I'm in college, so over here that's ages sixteen to eighteen, okay,

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Speaker 16: Doing these things called A levels.

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure if you know about them, but pretty

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much I've got to get through them under B tech.

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Speaker 16: It's all sounded very confusing, but I've got to get

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through a.

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Speaker 17: Few tests at the end of next year, so it'll

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be summer next year, and then I'm hoping to go

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to university, which is you do three years in UNI

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and then you can hopefully get this fantasy certificate and

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get a job.

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Speaker 9: Do you know yet? And I only ask because you know,

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I know you're a long term planner, Like, do you

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plan to study music when you go to Universe?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 16: I don't. I'm planning to do market in and digital advertizing.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's also very useful in the music industry certainly,

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so you know, so it sounds like I mean, actually

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that might even be more helpful to you in terms

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of your music career, you know, than you know, studying

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a lot of music theory and all that, like, you know,

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learning the marketing, especially, you know, in the era that

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we live in where you know, I'm old enough to

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remember when it was you know, a pre inter Yeah,

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I'm Generation X, you know, I'm the last generation to

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grow up without the Internet. So I've seen everything change

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so much, and I think it's more important and beneficial

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now than ever to really understand marketing as an artist,

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because it's not like when you know, you get signed

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to a label and they just do everything for you

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and all you have to worry about is show up

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and play and record or whatever.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 9: Like now, the more control that you can have over

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your own marketing and distribution and social media all of it.

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The more control that you can have, I think, the

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better off you are long term. And like I said,

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you know, you're obviously a long term planner, so so

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I think that's a great direction for you to go. Actually,

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I think I think that'll be very very useful to you,

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you know, and and something to fall back on too.

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That gives you, you know, you'll be able to, you know,

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get a job anywhere you want really with with that

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kind of background. So I think that's great.

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Speaker 16: There's so many jobs in that industry that I can

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go into.

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Speaker 17: And then I think on the side, probably Friday Saturday evenings,

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I've got to pubs and do gigs there, so I'd

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still always have music.

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Speaker 9: There you go, Yeah, there you go. Absolutely, I think

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that's a great I think that's a great direction to go. Well, Lydia.

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We appreciate you joining us again. Love the new single,

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and in a moment we're going to play turn this

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Town Around and we'll kind of we'll cap off the

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segment with that. But I want to make sure our

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listeners know where should they go online to keep up

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with everything that you're doing. Where's the best place to

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go online?

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Speaker 17: So mostly on Instagram under do you ready music ready

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spelled R E D D.

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Speaker 16: Why that's on Instagram.

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Speaker 17: But I do also have a Facebook account, but that's

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private at the moment because it won't let me change

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it until I'm eighteen, and it's the same with my

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TikTok account, but I can accept people to go onto.

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Speaker 9: Those Oh okay, okay, excellent.

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Speaker 16: Well yeah, my Instagram's fully public.

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Speaker 9: Lindia Ady Music okay, okay, very good. And before we

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let you go on, before we play this track, remind

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us again again for listeners who might not have heard

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our previous conversation about turn this town around? What what

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are you? What are you expressing with this song? I'll

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let you. I mean I kind of talked about it,

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but in your own words, what are you? What are

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you addressing with this?

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Speaker 17: So this song, let's put it in easy terms, just

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kind of like looking after the world and looking after

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each other as much as you can do.

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Speaker 9: Yep, yep, no, perfectly said. Absolutely well, Lydia. Ready, thank

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you so much. Always wonderful to talk with you. I

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look forward to I look forward to the next single

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and hopefully we can give it the americ Can Radio

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premiere here on this side of the pond when it's ready.

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So look forward to speaking to you again. And we're

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gonna hit it. We're gonna hit this track. We'll let

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you go for now. But thanks Lydia, great, thank you. Seeleia,

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you got it bye bye, all right. That is Lydia Ready,

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and if you missed it, we played at the beginning

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of our conversation her newest single, The Way We're Rolling,

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which is which is great, but we might we might

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sneak it in again at the end of the show

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today because I really do like that song very much.

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But we're also gonna play this to end our conversation

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and then Jenny and I will be back on the

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other side of this with uh, We've got another very

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interesting music industry news story to share with you. But

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here it is. This is Turned This Town Around. This

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is the first single and by the way, we were

477
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the first American radio station to play this from Lydia Ready.

478
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Speaker 10: What's that sound? What's that sounded?

479
00:25:58,079 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 13: Home?

480
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,799
Speaker 5: A bunstn mixie scream and shout Hannah, turn this town around?

481
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 10: Stop and look this way.

482
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 5: I made some insufficients. What I see is what I say.

483
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:13,559
And this here's a travesty. The earth are trying to

484
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,960
now and you don't see the tragedy. It's all blurring

485
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,960
all it's one and die sup blinded. We think it's typical,

486
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,160
but that's just cause we's so shallow.

487
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 10: My dad, what that sound? What set sound?

488
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:31,279
Speaker 5: Get out of my way or burns down, Mixie and

489
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,880
scream and shout, and I turn.

490
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:34,799
Speaker 7: This town around.

491
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 10: Pee everywhere.

492
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 5: If your parts and nurture and to care for this

493
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:44,599
world of us, I believe the earth will no longer

494
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:52,279
fall upont we can glue it all back tog and

495
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,480
find a piece of less forever.

496
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,039
Speaker 16: What that sounds?

497
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 5: Sound my way or burns down? Maxie in scream and show,

498
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,759
pan out, turn this town round?

499
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,279
Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

500
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,519
Speaker 8: And get out my way of burns down?

501
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:11,799
Speaker 7: Pxie and scream.

502
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: And shower, pan out on the town around.

503
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 10: What's it town?

504
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 5: That's just because you.

505
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:30,759
Speaker 10: Turn this town round? What's it sound?

506
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,079
Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

507
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,559
Speaker 4: Get out a way of burns down.

508
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 5: Baxie and scream and shower, and I'll turn this town around.

509
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 7: What's it sound? What's it sound?

510
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,839
Speaker 11: Get out my way of burns down, Makesie in scream

511
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,960
and shout, and alto on this town round.

512
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 9: That is Lydia ready, turn this town around. And this

513
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,839
is Matt Connorton unleashed and we are alive. From the

514
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200
studios of WM and H ninety five point three FM

515
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,119
and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, and thank you again to

516
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,599
Lydia for joining us today. And we did feature earlier. Yeah,

517
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,039
we played the way we're rolling her newest single earlier

518
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:23,960
in the show. We might we might cap off today's

519
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,720
show with that one more time. We'll see, we'll see

520
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,640
how how the rest of the hour goes. But uh,

521
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,079
if you are joining us live on Saturday. Today is

522
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:36,920
September twentieth, twenty twenty five, and we've got actually, Jenny

523
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000
found a couple of interesting music industry stories. But this

524
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:44,680
is from Billboard dot com. This this just happened. And

525
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,079
this also relates to a subject that we've discussed many

526
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:51,359
times on the show. Klan like this Klanie slams Ai

527
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:56,359
artist Zania or Zannia Moneta. It's x A N I

528
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,839
A So I guess that's Zania Zannia Monet getting a

529
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,759
three million dollar record deal. This is so beyond out

530
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:07,759
of control, the musician told fans. Now, I don't know

531
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:09,799
anything about this. This is the first time hearing about

532
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,880
this is I didn't think there there even was such

533
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
a thing as a three million dollar record deal anymore.

534
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,920
I didn't I thought that was a thing of the past.

535
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,880
But so I don't understand. Let's we'll go through this

536
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680
here again. This is from billboard dot Com. A few

537
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,720
days ago, Billboard broke the news that an AI generated artist,

538
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Zania Monet, had signed a multimillion dollar record deal after

539
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,079
meeting with multiple labels.

540
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: This sounds very they thought over this person. It sounds like, yeah,

541
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,759
but not person. It's not a person.

542
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:44,839
Speaker 9: And by the way, but even that's one thing about

543
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,480
this is so strange. But the other thing that's so

544
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,960
strange to me is a story about a new artist

545
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,359
having multiple meetings with various labels to and this bidding

546
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,680
war that that that sounds like something from thirty years ago.

547
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,240
That doesn't sound like something that even happens in twenty

548
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,640
twenty five. So that part's also strange to me. Everything

549
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,759
about this is weird. Are we in an alternate universe?

550
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: An artist I use that term loosely, who did all

551
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:09,880
of their music.

552
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 9: With Sunio, Yeah, which is the app that we use Suno,

553
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:14,799
which is the app that we use yea Yeah.

554
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 4: Sorry, I don't know why I said I.

555
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,519
Speaker 9: Know why because the other, the other big one is Udio.

556
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,680
So I think in your mind you created an amalgam

557
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,480
of Suno and Udio and created Sudio. Yeah, I mean

558
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,720
maybe maybe someday they'll merge and that'll be the new name.

559
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,599
Speaker 4: The creator is claiming the art. The lyrics are theirs, Yeah,

560
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:35,039
but they use Suno to make the music. Yeah, so

561
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200
the music is obviously not theirs.

562
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:40,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, it says here. In a recent TikTok, the singer

563
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:45,960
songwriter Kalani shared their thoughts on how Wood Media reportedly

564
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:50,519
shelling out three million dollars to sign the fictive musician,

565
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,000
whose quote persona is operated behind the scenes by writer

566
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:01,319
Talisia Nicki Jones, despite copyright concerns previously by other major

567
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,119
labels um so, A frustrated sounding Kilani told followers, without

568
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,440
directly mentioning Monet or Jones, quote, there is an AI,

569
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,680
R and B artist who just signed a multimillion dollar

570
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640
deal and the person is doing none of the work.

571
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
This is so beyond out of control unquote.

572
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. They're using

573
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,640
other people's music to create it. Suno uses everybody else's

574
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,480
music to learn from. So if you're going there with

575
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:35,880
your lyrics to quote make music, you're making music from

576
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,200
other artists. Really it's not coming out of your brain,

577
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,799
but artistry comes out of your brain.

578
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,039
Speaker 9: But I also don't understand the most like this. But

579
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,359
the most mind benning thing to me about this is again,

580
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,000
I don't like, why is somebody paying three million dollars

581
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:50,279
for this?

582
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: Because apparently these songs are going up the jar?

583
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 9: But so what even even if they are, you don't

584
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,960
pay in the year twenty twenty five, why would anyone

585
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,880
pay three million dollars for to anybody for anything?

586
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: Apparently this was a big deal. They had this big,

587
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,720
giant zoom meeting with all the executives, and this is

588
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:12,920
bizarre to close this deal with the person what was

589
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
I I can't remember what that person's name is. Who

590
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,440
created Zaniamneh who is not a human being?

591
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,039
Speaker 9: But what am I missing about? I mean, like, yeah,

592
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,079
I mean, and I know the AI part is so

593
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,839
stop heard, but I'm still stuck on the other part

594
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,039
of this. Like, honestly, if you took this story and

595
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,319
you took the AI part out of it, and you

596
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,759
just told me there was this new artist named zaniamone

597
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,519
who who had all these meetings and just got offered

598
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:42,079
a three million dollar record deal, a brand new artists

599
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,799
brand new artist. I've never even heard of it. Even

600
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:46,279
if you took the AI part completely out of the story,

601
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:48,559
I would still be sitting here going, what in the

602
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,119
year five they're charting?

603
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: That's why.

604
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,279
Speaker 9: But even that shouldn't matter.

605
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: What greed talks buck up like this. They don't care.

606
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,759
They can make a dollar, they'll do it. But how

607
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,559
are they gonna make money? Like they're gonna make merch maybe?

608
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,279
I guess where do they make money these days? It's downloads?

609
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:13,279
Aren't the way nobody gets three? So what is in

610
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,119
the deal though, Like, what exactly is in the deal?

611
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:20,440
Obviously this artist can't go perform anywhere. There's no concerts

612
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,880
for fictictional character unless they make a hologram.

613
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,319
Speaker 9: Well unless the author who created this character is going

614
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to do to do that, I don't know.

615
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Well if they were gonna do that, when they do

616
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,079
that themselves to begin with, I'm assuming that they can't

617
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,000
perform the way that their fake version can perform.

618
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Speaker 9: I guess yeah, on a computer.

619
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Speaker 4: It can't perform. Outside of a computer. You can't go

620
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,519
to get tickets and go see them live unless it's

621
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,880
a holograph. I don't think we Well, we got those

622
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,599
in Vegas, but they're not everywhere yet.

623
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 9: Well you can't though, I mean if if if if

624
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:53,079
she can sing and.

625
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,039
Speaker 4: She's if you know she can sing, if I just

626
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:56,799
hire if.

627
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 9: You can hire a band to learn the songs, or

628
00:33:58,559 --> 00:33:59,880
you just play back in tracks or whatever.

629
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,519
Speaker 4: But that's not what they're saying. That's not what that.

630
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:07,480
They didn't sign her, They signed the fictitional character. Yeah,

631
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,320
so it's got to be like merch and stuff like that.

632
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 9: Yes, that's a lot of money for I don't like it, really.

633
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,119
Speaker 4: I actually am kind of shocked by it all because

634
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:22,039
I didn't think that the music industry will legitimize it

635
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,519
in this way, and now that they have, I don't

636
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:29,519
like it. I don't like it.

637
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 9: I don't like it, assess. Here at the vocalist, Kilani

638
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,960
went on emphasize the power of AI to create fully

639
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,000
formed songs out of thin air, without users having to

640
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,559
credit anyone involved in making the countless copyrighted works on

641
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,880
which such generative music systems are trained to craft. Monet's music,

642
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,960
Jones used Suna, which is the same app that we

643
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:52,559
we full disclosure. We played with we played with it

644
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,599
on the air, we did experiments, we we created tracks

645
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,880
about me becoming victorious in my long running feud with

646
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:00,760
MC hammer.

647
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying it's not fun to play with,

648
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,760
but to reward it, to pay for it, to legitimize

649
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,159
it in the music industry as a valid.

650
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 9: I don't know.

651
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 4: I've also there too, real Bless of Blood Humans.

652
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 9: I've also used it full disclosure. I've used it to

653
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:27,480
create theme music for a couple of podcasts, Tough Bumps

654
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,639
and UH. And I even made a song for the

655
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,400
The AF the podcast only version of this show, although

656
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,079
I'm not really I kind of changed my mind about

657
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,400
the song I chose but that I created with Suno.

658
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,679
But anyway, it doesn't matter. But okay, So to craft

659
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,119
Money's music, Jones used Suno, though her manager Rommel Murphy

660
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,760
emphasized to Billboard that his client personally writes all the

661
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,920
original lyrics that monet quote unquote.

662
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: But not the music. And I argue that it's not

663
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,480
with copyright infringement because every piece of music this thing

664
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,000
used to create it, it learned from a human being.

665
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,400
It didn't come out of thin air. It came out

666
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,639
of a human mind that it stuck into a computer

667
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,639
and spit this out right. So is that really not

668
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,000
using somebody else's work, because I don't think it is.

669
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,320
You're using everybody else's work to train it, and then

670
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,320
it pulls from a thousand artists to make this song. Well,

671
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,199
that's a thousand different artists' input that got into that song.

672
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,800
It's not royalty free, y'all happy? Gee? Look at like.

673
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,360
I don't like the way the article comes across. It's like, oh,

674
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,559
this is all that section you read about it being

675
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,079
like royalty free, and they can create that just I.

676
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 9: Don't like it, it says here. Billboard has reached out

677
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,920
to Jones's rep for comment. Kilani certainly isn't the only

678
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,679
person in the industry with objections to Monet's deal. Sources

679
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,639
previously told Billboard that several major labels had also been

680
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,800
in talks with Jones, but ultimately walked away with respect

681
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,840
to their collaborative copyright lawsuit against Suno last year. Yeah,

682
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,519
there's a there's a lawsuit. The labels are suing Suno.

683
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,599
Speaker 4: That's what. So why are somebody signing this person.

684
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,519
Speaker 9: Well, the company signing them isn't involved in that lawsuit obviously,

685
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:27,800
But but that's why I tell people too, because you know,

686
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,559
we we use Suno. I use sun know for some stuff.

687
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,280
If you are using these uh these these uh large

688
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,760
learning models like sun enjoy it while you have it,

689
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,239
because the sharks are circling just so you know. Okay,

690
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:43,840
I don't know.

691
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,199
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna I think that. I don't think.

692
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 9: I don't think it's gonna go Yeah, oh I agree,

693
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,239
but yeah. The basis of the lawsuit is that Suno

694
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,599
allegedly infringed upon the copyright of the label's catalogs by

695
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,880
using pre existing works to train its technology. The company

696
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:04,039
disagrees with this characterization, arguing that its users are actually

697
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,360
making entirely original works via fair use of the music

698
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,719
in its database.

699
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 4: Okay, but that's saying the same thing in a different sentence.

700
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,840
You just said this fair use is a very loosely

701
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:16,639
used term.

702
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,119
Speaker 9: In that sentence, I think, I think, well that's but

703
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:21,079
well that's the argument that the company that signed er

704
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,159
is making now there and so for people who don't know, so,

705
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,119
fair use is when you're using someone else's material. But

706
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:32,679
but but you're using it in a transformative.

707
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,039
Speaker 4: Way or educational way.

708
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 9: So for example, if if you if you watch YouTube videos,

709
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,119
you know, because people make reaction videos, especially you know

710
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,440
in political uh uh YouTube. So for example, if you're

711
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,639
commenting on on something on somebody else's video, you're using

712
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,440
someone else's content and you're playing it and you're commenting

713
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:55,199
on it as you do it. We had even recently

714
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,280
discussed doing that with someone, but we decided not to

715
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,280
because we don't want some and making angry phone calls

716
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,119
to certain people. But that type of thing where you're

717
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:06,920
using somebody else's content but you're commenting on it as

718
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,639
you play it on your own channel, that's an example

719
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,559
of fair use. The reason podcasters on YouTube are able

720
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,480
to do that kind of thing is because it's transformative.

721
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,559
They're taking they're using someone else's content to create their

722
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,440
own content from that as they comment on it. And

723
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920
that's why those podcasters are protected.

724
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 4: Huge difference because the material they're using, they're using it,

725
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,679
it's still associated, it's still identified as the original. You're

726
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,800
playing it, but it's the original. You know, it's the

727
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,800
person speaking, is that person not them?

728
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:38,639
Speaker 9: That's a good point.

729
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 4: They're not taking all of that and creating something. It's

730
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,199
not that right, you know, this is literally this is

731
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,599
like I read every VC Andrews book and then I

732
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,440
write a VC Andrews book because I read all of

733
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,840
her books and just gurgitated out her own style wording

734
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,280
continued her story. Isn't that still her story? It's still

735
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,159
her story. I'm I'm playing in her world. It's not

736
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,760
like it's one thing to do.

737
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 9: I mean, if you took the characters and made all

738
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,320
basically yeah, well that would be then you'd be violating

739
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,599
her intellectual property.

740
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,039
Speaker 4: Well, how are you not violating a musician's intellectual property

741
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,239
when you're stealing the notes off of a page instead

742
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,400
of the words off of a page.

743
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 9: Now that just to play Devil's advocate. You know my

744
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,280
counter argument, and you've heard me say this before. And

745
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,440
by the way, at the end of the day, I

746
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,199
will always argue on behalf of artists that we've got

747
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,039
to talk about and protecting artists, And you know obviously

748
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,079
where I come from. I think everyone understands that. But

749
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,679
the the counter argument, and I do think it's a

750
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,320
decent counter argument. So again I'm playing Devil's advocate. But

751
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,199
when we talk about these large learning models sucking up

752
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,480
all this information and then and then being able to

753
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:57,400
create from it, if I how is that different from

754
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:02,360
necessarily the human. So if I sit down and I

755
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,400
write a song any way, well let me just finish

756
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,320
my thought. Though again I'm playing Devil's out here, but

757
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480
let me just finish my thought. If I'm sitting down

758
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,400
and I'm writing something, anything that I write is informed

759
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,199
and influenced by all the music that I've previously heard

760
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,400
in my lifetime up to that moment. So therefore, how

761
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:24,159
is that different?

762
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,159
Speaker 4: Because you are a human being using your mind, not

763
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,119
a computer that can memorize everything verbatim, every signature, stamp,

764
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,760
every note, every everything, every dissonance and replicate that precisely.

765
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,039
You are a human. You cannot do that, right, You

766
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,760
as a human can interpret what you hear, what you see,

767
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,079
what you feel, and then reinterpret that into artistry. That's

768
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:48,239
what artists do, right. You take a story, something that's

769
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,239
pointed to you, You take a paint brush and you

770
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,559
scart that around. That is you interpreting the world around

771
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,039
you into that canvas. Right, same thing a musician does,

772
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,360
interpreting the world and putting it down on a sheet music.

773
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:00,880
That's unique.

774
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

775
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,599
Speaker 4: You taking all the knowledge that somebody gives you, go

776
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,039
to college for ten years, you take all that knowledge

777
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,280
to write something that's you as a human being, creating

778
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,119
something out of your own mind. It's not picture perfect

779
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,480
pages in a computer that can literally just that's not creation,

780
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,920
that's gluing stuff together.

781
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 9: Just very quick, yeah, yeah, just very quickly. I'm looking

782
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,960
on YouTube. I just want to hear something from.

783
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,519
Speaker 4: I Will Live.

784
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:35,159
Speaker 9: I'm like, what, what could somebody possibly be paying? See

785
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:36,840
I'm still stuck on that part. What could somebody be

786
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,800
paying three million dollars for? Okay?

787
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,639
Speaker 4: So, uh, what's the going rate for artists these days?

788
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:50,159
Speaker 9: So it's not that, let's see Okay, Okay, So I

789
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,840
found the YouTube page Xanny moon A. All right, I'm

790
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,880
just gonna play this first song that pops up. Looks

791
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,360
like this is the newest single. It's called back when

792
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,760
Love Was Real? All right, this is the lyric video here.

793
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Let me it's probably an ad first, let me see.

794
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,159
I'm just curious, like, what what could this be?

795
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 18: M M, I want that back in the day kind

796
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:28,519
of loving live stream. It was fell inside. It's no text,

797
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,480
no ma nightiest, just loyalty and a little bit of respect.

798
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,679
Before everybody knew.

799
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 7: Your business, Before who.

800
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: You Live turns suspicious?

801
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,119
Speaker 11: Before the GPS and the past.

802
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 9: Words to love a simple just me you take me back.

803
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 7: When love was real.

804
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 9: I almost feel like she's trolling all of us with

805
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:55,079
those lyrics.

806
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 4: It doesn't sound any different from stuff you've created, and

807
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,559
I don't think it does, right.

808
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't get a few words in there, don't.

809
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,239
I don't get it like this, This so many not okay.

810
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: I'm not okay with this. You know this is wrong.

811
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,199
It's a huge difference between human creation and computer creation.

812
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:18,079
We humans don't have the ability to photo have a

813
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:23,559
photographic memory of every single word note you know what

814
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:26,239
I mean, every breath of the in a nation where's

815
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:29,079
there's so much to what an artist does as a human.

816
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 9: Although that does well, that raises a question though, what

817
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,199
if what if an artist has a photographic memory? Should

818
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:36,400
they but you're not gonna should they not make music?

819
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 4: That's different at.

820
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,119
Speaker 9: Photographic memories. That's you're a human.

821
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: But you're a human. You're still using everything that you've

822
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,239
got to create something out of your own brain. It's

823
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,199
not like a computer literally taking ones and zeros and

824
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,880
realigning the ones and zeros and spitting it back at you,

825
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,559
which is what I feel like it's doing. You're taking

826
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,960
everybodybody else's music, here's your ones and zeros, rearrange it,

827
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,159
spit it back out. That's not what a human being does.

828
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,480
A human being takes life, experience, thought, feeling, passion, emotion,

829
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,719
all of that, everything they've learned, they've been around, musicians, whatever,

830
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,039
and then create out of that. Yeah, big difference between

831
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,119
rearranging it and creation.

832
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,079
Speaker 9: Justin Michaels is in the chat room. You know, he's

833
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,239
a very loyal listener and supporter of actually all the

834
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,320
programming that we're involved in. And he says, so you

835
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,320
can you can use AI and get signed. Now, Wow,

836
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,800
that's what I'm saying, right, we just found this out

837
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,599
And he said, Matt, look out for Skynett.

838
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,599
Speaker 4: I think we've already gotten there at this point. Yeah,

839
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,119
but it is it isn't right, It's not okay with me. Yeah,

840
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,760
And you're never going to see this artist for in

841
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,679
real life ever, they're not existent. You could see somebody

842
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,039
pretending to be them, but you will never see them

843
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:02,159
because they don't exist. It only exists in a computer.

844
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 9: Well, let's move on from that because I just want

845
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,000
to get this other story. But this also deals with

846
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:10,840
you know, because I'm always fascinated by anything to do

847
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,480
with copyright, intellectual property, all of that is, trademarks, all

848
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,519
of that is very fascinating to me. Obviously, I did

849
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,639
not go to law school, but if I had the

850
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,039
type of law that I would probably be practicing would

851
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:24,480
have to do with all that, I'd probably be an

852
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,800
entertainment lawyer because these things are so interesting to me.

853
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,280
But this is another story that you sent me. This

854
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,960
is from pitchfork dot com. Neil Young has been sued

855
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:38,039
by Chrome Hearts Fashion over his band's new name. And

856
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:41,199
by the way, I didn't even know that Neil Young

857
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,239
had a new band, you know. I just think of

858
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,719
him as a solo artist, of course.

859
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: But I didn't know there was a fashion called Chrome

860
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,559
I didn't either Chrome Heart the Chrome Hearts.

861
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 9: The Los Angeles company is not happy about the existence

862
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,360
of Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts, so says here.

863
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,639
Last year, Neil Young began to play shows with a

864
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,440
new backing band that he called The Chrome Hearts. Then

865
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,079
in June, Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts featuring Young,

866
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:16,440
Micah Nelson, Corey McCormick, Anthony legerfo orligerfo and Spooner Old

867
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:21,159
Him released their debut album Taken to the Trees I'm

868
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:24,639
Sorry Talking to the Trees. Now, Young and his bandmates

869
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,800
are being sued by the la fashion brand Chrome Hearts

870
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,159
for trademark infringement. Chrome Hearts LLC filed its complaint in

871
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,000
a California federal court on Thursday, September eleventh. The lawsuit

872
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,480
was first reported by Billboard. In the complaint obtained by Pitchfork,

873
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,559
lawyers for Chrome Hearts outline the brand's ownership quote of

874
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,159
the Chrome Heart's word mark and composite trademarks comprising the

875
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,119
Chrome Hearts mark and design components unquote, dating back to

876
00:47:55,239 --> 00:48:00,719
nineteen ninety one. They argue that Young and his bandmates

877
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,760
are infringing upon the brand's trademark by selling Neil Young

878
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,719
and the Chrome Heart's merchandise. That quote incorporates the exact

879
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,880
Chrome Heart's word mark and thus likely to cause confusion

880
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,679
with Chrome Heart's various Chrome Heart marks. The likelihood of

881
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,000
confusion is not merely hypothetical. Some clothing and apparel vendors

882
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,199
have apparently already mistakenly assumed that there is a connection

883
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:30,599
between Neil Young and the Chrome Hearts and Chrome Hearts

884
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,960
and are actively promoting that purported connection. For example, some

885
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,280
vendors have started marketing T shirts that prominently display mister

886
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,239
Young's name and the Chrome Heart's iconic stylization of the

887
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,519
Chrome Heart's mark unquote. I assume, by the way, so

888
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,039
what that means is it's using the same font as

889
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,800
the Chrome Heart's logo. I have to assume otherwise there

890
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,800
would probably be no issue. I wouldn't think.

891
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 4: I think you only had to be concerned about another

892
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,760
band's name. Yeah, I wouldn't.

893
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 9: I mean, it's they're claiming, according to that from the

894
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,880
lawsuit that verbi, it's from the lawsuit that it's already

895
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,119
causing confusion. I find that heart of belief. If it

896
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,960
is causing confusion. If that's true, then I guess that

897
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:19,880
bolster is their case. But I'm a little skeptical. It

898
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,400
says here. According to the complaint, Chrome Hearts notified Young's

899
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,400
team in July about the alleged trademark infringement, but the

900
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,199
band continued to tour under the banner and sell merchandise.

901
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:33,280
Through the lawsuit, Chrome Marts is now requesting that Neil

902
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,519
Young and the Chrome Hearts stop using the name. Pitchfork

903
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,719
has reached out to representatives for Neil Young and the

904
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,639
Cromarts and lawyers for Cromhart's LLC for comment. So there

905
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,119
you go. I don't really know what to make of

906
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:46,679
that one.

907
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I always thought it would be different

908
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:53,840
if it's a band, like how is it usually is banned?

909
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,039
Speaker 11: Like?

910
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: How is that confusing?

911
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 9: Usually if it's make music, if it's completely different industry,

912
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:06,400
then then it usually doesn't end up mattering. But I

913
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,480
don't know, I don't know.

914
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,039
Speaker 4: I mean, does Chrome Hearts I don't know what kind

915
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,920
of bass?

916
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 9: I doubt it. But maybe maybe they're trying to get

917
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,400
some money. Maybe they want maybe they'd like to make

918
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,119
a settlement where Neil Young pays X amount of money

919
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,079
to sort of license the name Chrome Hearts.

920
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: Or are they doing this just to get more attention

921
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,199
onto their products? Because hey, it makes a great story.

922
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:29,920
That could be talking about it.

923
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 9: That could be too Yeah, because I've never even heard

924
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,360
of Chromart's and you didn't say.

925
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,679
Speaker 4: Anything about them sewing for money.

926
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 9: Interestingly, well they want them to stop using the name?

927
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: Is there a cash requestion?

928
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:43,519
Speaker 9: There? There there may be a well, like I said,

929
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:44,800
I mean, if they can, if they can come to

930
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,119
a settlement, which these things often do. They they more

931
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:50,079
often settle than actually go to court. So they might

932
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,719
come to a settlement where they effectively license the name

933
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,000
Chrome Hearts to Neil Young it's silly, or or they

934
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,679
get a percentage of uh of of revenue generated from

935
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:05,960
Neil Young merchandise which has Chrome Hearts on.

936
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,119
Speaker 4: If I see Neil Young and the Crohnhearts up at

937
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:09,920
this new arena, I know that that I'm going to

938
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,119
be confused and go by clothing.

939
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,559
Speaker 9: Well that's the thing that would that would be Yeah,

940
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,480
that would be a good counter argument to the lawsuit.

941
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like it's it, and it's not even

942
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,559
like they're not even promoting the name separately. It's with

943
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,519
Neil Young, So Neil Young and the Chrome Heart. Right,

944
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,480
it's not a separate name.

945
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,119
Speaker 9: Even right, if the band was simply called Chrome Hearts,

946
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:29,719
that would be.

947
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:32,679
Speaker 4: Well, even if they are, it's a band, it's not

948
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,320
a clothing designer. Yeah, unless their T shirts start making music.

949
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,119
I don't hear it, right, I think.

950
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:45,639
Speaker 9: I'm saying I'm not sure. I'm a little I I

951
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,159
usually draw a pretty fast conclusion with this stuff. I'm

952
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:54,719
a little I'm a little undecided. I'm uncertain of this. Yeah,

953
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,400
usually surprises me too. I usually see these things a

954
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,440
little bit more cut and dry.

955
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,559
Speaker 4: But I'm I think stupid.

956
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I'm not sure on this one.

957
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 4: I don't see anybody mixing up clothing with and and

958
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,119
the only merch they're selling is band related.

959
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,039
Speaker 9: So yeah, but there's but again from Cromart's position, see,

960
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:15,599
they're gonna argue, yeah, you're right, but what what what

961
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,400
kind of merch do you sell that's band related clothing?

962
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,960
T shirts, a T shirt st that's the argument they're

963
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,519
gonna use. It's not a whole product, it's you know,

964
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:28,760
it'd be one thing if they were just selling CDs,

965
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:31,440
you know, or something. But you're in the same industry,

966
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,159
you're selling merch. But see, but that's all but see that,

967
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,760
but that's the art. But they are, in a sense,

968
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,760
and that's the argument.

969
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:40,599
Speaker 4: The same industry. They're in music.

970
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 9: Merchandising of clothing. That is the same. And if you're

971
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,400
in the music industry, you're in the merch you're in

972
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,400
the merchandise industry.

973
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,199
Speaker 4: You are follows brand clothing like a brand, which I don't,

974
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,719
but people who follow brand clothing don't confuse it with musicians.

975
00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:59,360
They might get interested in a brand, but they're not

976
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,679
gonna confuse it. Oh, I thought you were selling T

977
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,400
shirts in here? Why are there so many drums? Like?

978
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:08,079
Come on, that doesn't happen. You don't go to the

979
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:11,480
T shirts, you don't go to Marshal's. Walk over to

980
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:14,800
the rack that's got chrome whatever here and look for

981
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,679
Neil Young. It doesn't work that way, right, I'm sorry,

982
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,559
I don't No, I hear you. Both of these stories

983
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,079
are to me today.

984
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 9: I'm just a little bit. I'm just a little bit uncertain.

985
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:29,360
We're gonna have to follow that one closely as it

986
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,480
moves forward. No, let's see more to it than very curious.

987
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: I'm missing or something.

988
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm very curious to see how that ends up.

989
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,920
I don't see consumer confusion here. Well, no, but from

990
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,599
the from that statement from the lawsuit, it sounds like

991
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,440
cromart is saying, there's like confusion within the industry, within

992
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:48,199
the fashion industry, give me a break, because they're getting

993
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,360
orders from give me a break, I don't know.

994
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: And they're getting orders from stupid people that don't know

995
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,599
the difference between a musician and clothing designers. I don't

996
00:53:58,599 --> 00:53:59,800
think I'm sticking.

997
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:04,519
Speaker 9: To it all right, we dug in, we gotta go,

998
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,599
we gotta go. Jenny, you want to quickly plug the

999
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:10,960
event we're going to today and your website because you've

1000
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,360
been up to a lot. Oh and you should mention

1001
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,760
too in the Union Leader you're.

1002
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, check out yesterday's Union Leader. I have

1003
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:17,719
an opt ed in there if you want to go

1004
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,239
check it out. And we are going to be leaving

1005
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,000
here and going to the Great North Aleworks on Whole

1006
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:26,440
dav here in the Queen City for the pause and pints,

1007
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,480
fundraising and just a party a fun come say hi

1008
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,000
to us. They may greed ta because they have all

1009
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,719
kinds of great beers. And of course this is raising

1010
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360
money that's staying here locally in New Hampshire to take

1011
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,039
care of animals. And I'm really curious to see what

1012
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,079
animal one and is gonna be pictured on the can

1013
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,599
of beer when we get there, So we're gonna check

1014
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:48,840
out that. And also just definitely check out the Mosaic

1015
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,559
Are Collective, also located here in the Queen City. Check

1016
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,800
out their website. Lots of great things coming up there

1017
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:56,039
and as always you can find more information on me

1018
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:59,400
and the trouble I get into Good Trouble at Gencoffee

1019
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,719
dot com, n n C O F f e y

1020
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:02,440
dot com.

1021
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 9: And to keep up with everything I'm doing, my website

1022
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,440
is Matt connorton dot com. Of course, in addition to

1023
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,039
the show, we have the podcast only version of the show,

1024
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,360
the AF version, which is completely separate from the has

1025
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,519
no association with WM and H. That's something that we

1026
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,599
do separate from the radio station. But on that version

1027
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:22,880
of the show we have some conversations and guests that

1028
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,360
maybe are not suitable for the format of the radio

1029
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:27,679
version of the show, but you can find that in

1030
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,199
the podcast feed. You know, wherever you find Matt Connorton

1031
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,840
Unleashed in your your podcast platform of choice, you can

1032
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,679
you can also find the other version of the show

1033
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,840
we just did one Thursday night with our friend Brandon LeMay,

1034
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,039
which I suggest people check out, and also the other

1035
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,320
podcasts that we have Going Hanging Left and Tough Bumps.

1036
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,039
We'll have new episodes of those up soon as well,

1037
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:49,400
so Matt connorton dot com. You can find all of

1038
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,800
that there and thank you again. Of course. In the

1039
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,039
first hour we had Larry and how do you say

1040
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:56,719
his name? I don't want to mispronounce his name.

1041
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1042
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 9: We have the gentleman from Loud Entertainment here in the

1043
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,119
first hour, Larie. I can't remember how to say his

1044
00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:09,679
name correctly. But they've got a big show tonight. They've

1045
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,119
got a Godsmack and Metallica tribute show happening tonight at

1046
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:14,960
Jewel if you want to check that out too, And

1047
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:17,559
of course thank you. In the second hour, Matt Axton,

1048
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:20,559
who will be at the Rex Theater right here in

1049
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:23,239
Manchester on September twenty fourth. We had a great conversation

1050
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,039
with him and so he'll be coming to Manchester. And

1051
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,480
of course in the third hour we talked with Lydia. Ready,

1052
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:30,760
thank you again, Lydia. We're actually gonna end the show today.

1053
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:33,639
We're gonna play this again, her newest single, This is

1054
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,000
called the Way We're Rolling. I love this very positive,

1055
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:38,719
very cool and if you miss any part of today's show,

1056
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,039
it will be up in just a little bit at

1057
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,079
wmnhradio dot organ on my website Matt Connorton dot com.

1058
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:45,079
And that's going to do it for us.

1059
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 4: For now.

1060
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 9: We're out here. We'll talk to y'all a little bit later.

1061
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:48,280
Bye everybody, Bye bye.

1062
00:56:55,039 --> 00:56:57,559
Speaker 4: How can we clagg this? I can no clag.

1063
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:02,559
Speaker 10: It doesn't matter because I exist for me. I can

1064
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,719
walk or I can't trash. It doesn't matter how the

1065
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,639
way because I talk for me.

1066
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,519
Speaker 7: Chat resens shuts my purpose. You are so perfect, even

1067
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:19,199
if you don't know it. All my beer cot comgeld

1068
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:20,039
all the.

1069
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,119
Speaker 8: Way I'm competent, And this is just the way we're rolling.

1070
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,360
This is just the way we're rolling.

1071
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:40,639
Speaker 12: I can sit down, O stand up top. That is

1072
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,039
just the way it's kind of go.

1073
00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:45,719
Speaker 7: So I'll be me and you'll be you.

1074
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:49,239
Speaker 13: That is what we've kind of you to try to

1075
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,719
get through you chats my sister shuts my purpose.

1076
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: You are some perfect even.

1077
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,239
Speaker 7: If you don't know all my people comment.

1078
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 12: All the way I comforted, and this is just the

1079
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,079
way we roll.

1080
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just the way you roll.

1081
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, somewhere just hurt you.

1082
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,199
Speaker 5: Others will hurt you. Turn over, think kid, They don't you, sir,

1083
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,400
know that you'll come through everything there you do be

1084
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:38,199
your own person. They for you, Yeah, you live for you.

1085
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 9: You can't leave.

1086
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 7: Shatsmith sisir shots my.

1087
00:58:48,039 --> 00:58:52,639
Speaker 11: Brother, you are some perfect even if your don on

1088
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,360
a big ball on the shoulder.

1089
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,079
Speaker 12: All the way I comforted.

1090
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: I'm being.

1091
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,239
Speaker 15: Shots my s, just myles some even if you don't know,

1092
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,840
Oh the damp, I shall all.

1093
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 7: The way, I'm counting in. And this is just the

1094
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,519
way we'll go.

1095
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:19,079
Speaker 15: This is just the way.

1096
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: This is just the way.