Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete at
Speaker 1: a sports Uh, so let's start with.
Speaker 2: This, Rodney, Yeah, what are we starting with? Fred?
Speaker 1: I think we have to start with the fact that
Speaker 1: we are in studio. We're not at Sketchers. But there's
Speaker 1: good news for anybody that goes to Sketchers. Our street
Speaker 1: team is there. They are still giving away ten pairs
Speaker 1: of Dodger tickets. Sketchers are still giving everybody d by two,
Speaker 1: get a third free, Sketchers are still giving everybody swag.
Speaker 2: So all you have to do is go down there
Speaker 2: to the sketchers.
Speaker 1: Our people are there and they are giving away ten
Speaker 1: pairs of Dodger tickets, ten pairs, just as we promised.
Speaker 2: Yes, is uh Is Norman Powell going to be there?
Speaker 2: Norman Powell will be there. Yes, Norman Putt, He's going
Speaker 2: to sign autographs. Everything we said was gonna happen is
Speaker 2: gonna happen, every single thing. So the only thing that's
Speaker 2: not happening is we're here, but everything else is happening there.
Speaker 2: So go to Sketchers, get those get those sketchers, get
Speaker 2: those tickets. The street team is there and everybody is
Speaker 2: invited and we're giving away a pair on the show today.
Speaker 3: Yes, so on the air today to you people listening,
Speaker 3: we will give away one pair of tickets to a
Speaker 3: Preacher game as well.
Speaker 4: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: You know what I say, Rodney. Everybody's a winner. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody's a winner, except for those that wanted to see
Speaker 2: your presence. That sketchers fret that they're not going to
Speaker 2: see that today.
Speaker 1: Well, thankfully, no one wanted to see my presence. So
Speaker 1: it's everybody's a winner. Everybody wins, everybody gets tickets, and
Speaker 1: we appreciate you being here on the show today. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we're still not going to have our very
Speaker 1: special guests. Our special guests will join us in the studio.
Speaker 1: Did you get his fish fit? Okay, I think there
Speaker 1: was some confusion about the fish.
Speaker 2: There is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that we got the fish. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll bring that up if he didn't get.
Speaker 2: His fish, because wasn't that one of the stipulations and
Speaker 2: in the contract of bringing him on was that he
Speaker 2: got you initially thought chicken, but he hadn't wanted fish
Speaker 2: this time. Yeah, and requested the fish, and then we
Speaker 2: found out what kind of fish and so there was
Speaker 2: an order place, but we don't know if that ever
Speaker 2: got completed. Yeah, I think the problem was once we
Speaker 2: don't know if we have any any fish for him, right.
Speaker 1: I think the problem is once we found out we
Speaker 1: were not going to be there and we were going
Speaker 1: to be here, that somehow the fish slipped to the crack.
Speaker 1: Oh fell off the hook, as we like to say,
Speaker 1: Oh no, couldn't couldn't real that one in fell off
Speaker 1: the hook. So I think that's what happened. That's why
Speaker 1: we don't have the fish. But he's going to be here. Benoit,
Speaker 1: Benjamin in the Flesh will join us coming up in
Speaker 1: just a little bit.
Speaker 2: All right, Ronnie, let's talk some Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: So the Spotlight last night was right on, Michael CONFORDO,
Speaker 1: how about that, your guy, Fred, your guy, how about
Speaker 1: he finally broke through Rodney.
Speaker 2: Yes he did, Yes he did. And it was a
Speaker 2: big moment. And I thought, you know, we talked about
Speaker 2: this being, you know, you know, a certain series, and
Speaker 2: you said the second game was a must win for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. They needed to win that game. I also
Speaker 2: felt that the Dodgers needed to They needed to split
Speaker 2: this series with the Mets. They did not need to
Speaker 2: lose three out of fours to the Mets at home.
Speaker 2: That would have been a bad look and would have
Speaker 2: been a bad just a bad taste. And then going forward,
Speaker 2: it just, you know, because the Dodgers have kind of
Speaker 2: been right, they've been at the top. But I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody's felt the Dodgers have been dominant like we
Speaker 2: all felt that they would be at the start of
Speaker 2: the season. Now, injuries played a big part of that,
Speaker 2: but even still, nobody cares about that. When the Dodgers
Speaker 2: put on those uniforms and they trot out at Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 2: everybody expects them to win. It doesn't matter if they've
Speaker 2: got fifteen guys or fifteen pitchers on the il or
Speaker 2: other guys that are hurt. They expected Dog to be
Speaker 2: dominant with all the money they spend in the offseason.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I don't care who you got hurt.
Speaker 2: I want you to be dominant. So the way they
Speaker 2: beat the Yankees and won those first two games, you
Speaker 2: kind of gave them. Okay, they lose on Sunday to
Speaker 2: the Yankees, that's fine, took two out of three from him.
Speaker 2: But you can't come back right after that and lose
Speaker 2: three out of four to the Mets. You gotta hold
Speaker 2: serve is if you will. And and I think they
Speaker 2: did that. And it was great for Michael Conforto because
Speaker 2: there are many people calling for his head, calling him
Speaker 2: to calling Dave Roberts to take him out of the lineup,
Speaker 2: and basically saying they've seen enough of Michael Conforto. He
Speaker 2: doesn't need to play anymore. So I was so happy
Speaker 2: for him to come through in that big moment and
Speaker 2: gave the Dodgers to win.
Speaker 1: I actually think he had the worst average of a
Speaker 1: regular player in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: That's all badly. He's been struggling.
Speaker 1: You know, it only takes one, just takes one, Rodney
Speaker 1: one and a key moment, one at a key time,
Speaker 1: and he got it yesterday and I'll tell you nobody
Speaker 1: was happier than Michael Confordo. He said, listen, I have
Speaker 1: not been delivering.
Speaker 2: He's a pro. Here's the thing. When a guy is struggling.
Speaker 2: Do you not think he knows that? Do you think
Speaker 2: he is oblivious to that fact? Do you think he
Speaker 2: doesn't carry it with him and it wears on him?
Speaker 2: The answer is yes to all of those.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, you root for the guy
Speaker 1: to get out of it, because as a big leaguer,
Speaker 1: and you know this, Rodney, it only takes one you
Speaker 1: know that one moment that one hit yah, and suddenly
Speaker 1: you kind of snapped out of it.
Speaker 2: Could that be the case here? It could be, But
Speaker 2: you know what, a week week and a half ago,
Speaker 2: he had the big game where he had three hits
Speaker 2: and had two doubles in the game, and you thought
Speaker 2: that was the moment where he broke out of it.
Speaker 2: But this is a little bit different because it came
Speaker 2: at a key, key moment in the game where they
Speaker 2: absolutely needed a hit two uh to go ahead in
Speaker 2: that in the in the game, and he delivered and
Speaker 2: they hit the first pitch, he was ready for it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, those moments can can catapult you to Okay,
Speaker 2: now I've turned it around. You know, Michael, Michael Confortole's
Speaker 2: had a solid career. He's been pretty good wherever he's been.
Speaker 2: He didn't just turn into a bad player. You know,
Speaker 2: slumps happened, you get caught up into him, and then
Speaker 2: you kind of, you know, you hope that you can
Speaker 2: find your way out of it. We saw this with
Speaker 2: Max Munsey, who's kind of fought him, fought himself out
Speaker 2: of it. And now Max Munsey's on fire. So Conforto's
Speaker 2: a big, big leaguer and the moment came for him,
Speaker 2: and I think there's no accidents. It found him, The
Speaker 2: moment found him, and he delivered. So I was so
Speaker 2: happy for him and and hopefully, yes, hopefully this is
Speaker 2: a moment that helps him break out of this season
Speaker 2: long slump that he's been in. And how about Tanner Scott, Yeah,
Speaker 2: your guy, he's back. Oh, he's back. He's back.
Speaker 1: He's back big time. Picked up his first safe since
Speaker 1: May twenty first. So the night before when he went in,
Speaker 1: wasn't everybody collected breath?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It wasn't it technically gonna say, but but he delivered though,
Speaker 2: so I know people look at it, let's first saved well,
Speaker 2: dam but the night before he was dynamite too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And that was the night where he walked in and
Speaker 2: you sat there and went, oh god, no, oh he's back,
Speaker 2: and you keep your fingers crossed, and he got out
Speaker 2: of it. He did it, and now he comes and
Speaker 2: picks up a save. Did he just need that one outing, Rodney? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's all it takes, is that one big hit
Speaker 2: or or that one inning where you you strike guys
Speaker 2: out and you're hitting your spots and you feel good
Speaker 2: and it works to get you going again because so
Speaker 2: much of sports are between the ears. It is about confidence.
Speaker 2: It is about your mentality. You have the physical capabilities,
Speaker 2: or you wouldn't be there. I mean, your physical capabilities
Speaker 2: have gotten you to where you are now. Mentally that
Speaker 2: keeps you there or that takes you to the different
Speaker 2: levels of superstardom or stardom once you get to the
Speaker 2: big leagues or you get to the NFL or the NBA.
Speaker 2: But physically, if you're there, you already have the tools,
Speaker 2: but your mental makeup and your confidence is the level
Speaker 2: that keeps you there, and it can go up and down.
Speaker 2: It's a spectrum, and when you're going bad, it's very
Speaker 2: tough on you. But all it takes, as you just mentioned,
Speaker 2: all it takes is a good outing or two good
Speaker 2: outings to bring it back to go. This is who
Speaker 2: I am. I can perform at this level. I'm a
Speaker 2: bad man, and when you do it, it kind of
Speaker 2: reconfirms that I should be here. This is where I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to be, and I can handle this situation, which
Speaker 2: I think happened to Tanner Scott over these last two
Speaker 2: outings that he was out there.
Speaker 1: So splitting the series against the Mets. If you think
Speaker 1: about this, that wasn't really surprising. Have you looked at
Speaker 1: the numbers? Here's why. If you look at the teams
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have played this year with a winning record,
Speaker 1: they're above five hundred. They're fourteen and twelve, so they're
Speaker 1: more up than down. If you look at the teams
Speaker 1: they've played with a record that is losing, they're twenty
Speaker 1: four and thirteen. So what does that tell you? Well,
Speaker 1: the first thing it tells you is it's harder to
Speaker 1: be good teams and The next thing it tells you
Speaker 1: is they're beating the teams they are supposed to be
Speaker 1: and really that's how the season progresses. That's how that's
Speaker 1: how the season goes. You know, against a good team,
Speaker 1: it's going to be more difficult because they're a good team,
Speaker 1: and against a team with a losing record it should
Speaker 1: be easier. They're not as good, and that be that
Speaker 1: bears witness here. I guess you can make the argument, well,
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers were so great, they should kill everybody,
Speaker 1: even they get teams with good records. No, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way. And now they're tracking I think to
Speaker 1: win ninety eight games, Thank god, thank god, we're done
Speaker 1: with this one hundred and twenty five wins.
Speaker 2: Good. Can we put that to bed. What if they
Speaker 2: go on a roll? Fright? What if they're going to
Speaker 2: roll and they win ten straight over the next ten
Speaker 2: games and they get on a pace where they can
Speaker 2: win one hundred and fifteen games. Are you gonna say
Speaker 2: the same thing or are you gonna go it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They don't pay attention to that because everybody will start
Speaker 2: talking about that. They get on a roll and they
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, they go on the streak
Speaker 2: and then that that number changes. Are you going to
Speaker 2: buy into it? Are you gonna say, well, we don't care,
Speaker 2: we don't it doesn't matter. Don't even focus on that
Speaker 2: because you know everybody's gonna talk about it, right And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the same way I was before the
Speaker 2: season started, when everybody was saying, what do you think,
Speaker 2: how many games can they win? I've never looked at
Speaker 2: it that way, and I don't look at it that way.
Speaker 2: About their last there in September and it's ten games
Speaker 2: left in the season, and they're at one hundred and
Speaker 2: ten wins and the record is what one sixteen something
Speaker 2: like that. I think Seattle have their record. There are
Speaker 2: ten games left and they're at one hundred and ten wins.
Speaker 2: Are you one to say go for it? Or are
Speaker 2: you one to say no, let's just uh, let's just
Speaker 2: play it as it is yet and and and they
Speaker 2: pretty much wrapped up They got one or two games
Speaker 2: to wrap up the West, and so it's not contingent
Speaker 2: on them winning all these games. Are you going to
Speaker 2: be the one that says, just win the West and
Speaker 2: we don't care about the record. Are you going to
Speaker 2: say go go for it. I'm just gonna say this,
Speaker 2: every night, go out to win whatever, go for it means.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna say, do what
Speaker 2: you do every single night, go out to win. If
Speaker 2: you win it good, If not, you're fine. Just go
Speaker 2: out to do your job.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say, God, if
Speaker 1: they just get ten more, they'll want one hundred and seventeen. No,
Speaker 1: because once they won one hundred and seventeen one week later,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Now you get to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: those are the.
Speaker 2: Games you have. So you're telling them not to go
Speaker 2: for it. If they have cleansed the division at one
Speaker 2: and twelve wins, they've already cleansed the division, and they've
Speaker 2: got eight games left, and with eight games left they
Speaker 2: got to win five. You're telling them don't necessarily go
Speaker 2: for it. Uh, well, well, you go out to win
Speaker 2: every night. What are you saying, don't play the starters? Yes,
Speaker 2: he's saying, rest people, you arrest people, Do you rest people?
Speaker 2: Do you let them go play? What do you do?
Speaker 2: You didn't say that. You know people say this, but
Speaker 2: they didn't. They weren't saying that about Otani when he
Speaker 2: was going for fifty to fifty. They wanted him in
Speaker 2: the lineup, they wanted him playing, Go go for it.
Speaker 2: Are you not going to say the same thing? Are
Speaker 2: you going to be one of those guys sad and
Speaker 2: you know you're four games away so it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: don't don't you know? Don't play those starters, let them
Speaker 2: rest well.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing we've learned about baseball is
Speaker 1: having too much time off is a bad thing.
Speaker 2: When you think about it. That's insane.
Speaker 1: As many games as they play, you would think these
Speaker 1: guys can use a night off here, they can use
Speaker 1: a couple of days off. But it doesn't work that
Speaker 1: way because you're so conditioned to play every day that
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose the momentum of playing.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you take everybody out and go well,
Speaker 1: record be damned, or taking everybody out. I just think
Speaker 1: you would approach it as you would every game. And
Speaker 1: if you want to rest guy two guys a game,
Speaker 1: rust them, rust them.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: The fans love it, and it would be great and
Speaker 1: people will talk about it, and one week later it's
Speaker 1: not going to matter one bit because now you're going
Speaker 1: to be playing for all the games that do matter,
Speaker 1: and anything that could jeopardize that is something that I
Speaker 1: personally would pass on. I wouldn't put myself in a
Speaker 1: position to go for it. And there's the pulled hamstring
Speaker 1: and it could happen at any time, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Yeah, so what makes it like going for it?
Speaker 2: What makes you think if they play tonight as opposed
Speaker 2: to not playing tonight, it's going to jeopardize them going forward.
Speaker 2: I think I'd rest. I think i'd rest well if
Speaker 2: there are any if anybody's back, if they're healthy, I
Speaker 2: think I certainly wouldn't push it on them. I think
Speaker 2: i'd give them extra rest. The pictures I would so
Speaker 2: if it was their normal start, you wouldn't start them,
Speaker 2: You would give them an extra rest, you would pull them.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends if it's a normal start. But and
Speaker 1: when will they go again? Has this guy had any
Speaker 1: nagging little injuries?
Speaker 4: Is there you know?
Speaker 1: Tweet care of tweak there? I wouldn't pitch them.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're well ahead of ourselves and coming up
Speaker 1: with something that may never happen, but if it did.
Speaker 1: When you get to that point, everything is now focused
Speaker 1: on the playoffs. Everything, we've seen the movie. We know
Speaker 1: this movie now, we've seen it when it has a
Speaker 1: bad ending, and we've seen it it has a good one.
Speaker 1: So we know the movie and we know how to
Speaker 1: get to the final scene. And if in the final
Speaker 1: scene you've got the momentum and you've got your health
Speaker 1: and you have a little bit of luck, you win
Speaker 1: it all. I wouldn't do anything to jeopardize that. But
Speaker 1: I said that at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you didn't see that last year when Otani
Speaker 6: was going for fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Well, that's different, that's different. Why Why is that different?
Speaker 1: Because I want to see him doing that, because that matters.
Speaker 1: Because the only thing that matters Rodney is what matters
Speaker 1: to me. So if it matters to me, then Otani
Speaker 1: does that, he plays. If it doesn't matter how many
Speaker 1: games of Dodgers when as long as they are healthy
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's what matters. I got it.
Speaker 1: I think I actually think that's the barometer everybody uses.
Speaker 1: They take my temperature, they take your temperature. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of my temperature is ever.
Speaker 2: Deem that matters for the Dodgers, whether it be individual
Speaker 2: stats or team stats, they're going to go off of
Speaker 2: Fred Rogan. They should call me, they should do not
Speaker 2: give my number out, Yes, call me.
Speaker 4: Just do what I do.
Speaker 1: Look at it like I look at it. Yes, because
Speaker 1: I have the healthiest attitude of everybody? Do you I
Speaker 1: think so? You don't think I do the most centered
Speaker 1: and grounded attitude?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe maybe. But in terms of what we talked
Speaker 2: about this morning is we're not allowing you to book anybody.
Speaker 2: Guess you're not allowing you to what? We're not allowing
Speaker 2: you to book any guests anymore from here on, Well,
Speaker 2: the one I booked is here.
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Speaker 6: On Fridays, we absolutely, one hundred percent positively do not care.
Speaker 2: We do it all. We let it all hang out,
Speaker 2: We let our hair down, even those that don't have hair,
Speaker 2: we let it down, Freddy, Yeah, we do. And this
Speaker 2: particular Friday, fred we one hundred percent do not care.
Speaker 2: I'm telling Kevin and Ronnie get that dump button ready
Speaker 2: because it's coming. It's coming. Our man is here, Freddy,
Speaker 2: our man is here. Let's bring him on, right, let's
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Speaker 2: But how are you?
Speaker 4: Good day? How you doing? California? California kids out here?
Speaker 4: All right, what's up?
Speaker 2: I'm going to start with this.
Speaker 1: Are you mad that we had no fish?
Speaker 4: Well? Hell yeah, man, because you know, catfish, that's my favorite.
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: I picked. I said it was catfish. You were asking
Speaker 2: what kind of fish you were looking for? I said,
Speaker 2: Louisiana cat He looking for some cat fish?
Speaker 4: Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, Louisiana caff is
Speaker 4: different from the rest of that catfish. You know, we
Speaker 4: got farm for farm raised catfi is down there in Louisiana,
Speaker 4: So you know, that's a that's that's a different type
Speaker 4: of texture and sweetness and all kinds of stuff down there.
Speaker 4: Coming out of Louisiana. You know, Oh yeah, I missed
Speaker 4: my catfish now.
Speaker 1: But no, for people that don't know about what really
Speaker 1: was an illustrious career with the Clippers, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's laughing.
Speaker 2: An illustrious career.
Speaker 1: Can you start by pretty much summing up your career
Speaker 1: with the Clippers?
Speaker 4: Huh? Well, young coming out of college. Uh, wanted to
Speaker 4: fit in, trying to make sure that I live up
Speaker 4: to the expectations without without no team most of my career.
Speaker 4: But excuse me, but I mean, you know, I had
Speaker 4: good good days. There a lot of bad days, but
Speaker 4: you know, I still, you know, continue to hold my
Speaker 4: head up and and and do try to play the
Speaker 4: right way, try to play the game the right way,
Speaker 4: and was able to the last seventeen years despite you know,
Speaker 4: my start, So kind of that's kind of a plus
Speaker 4: for me as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: What was it you know, the Clippers obviously have a reputation.
Speaker 2: Now they've got new ownership and you know, Steve Bomber's
Speaker 2: taking over for Donald Sterling. But when you came and
Speaker 2: you were with the Clippers and that organization, what was
Speaker 2: that like? And and did you hear from other people,
Speaker 2: other players from other organizations going what's going on over there?
Speaker 4: Well, you know the Clippers, Well, the Clippers was always
Speaker 4: uh the Clippers, and uh, you know it said, you know,
Speaker 4: I guess the organization was snake being a lot of injuries,
Speaker 4: you know, so on and so forth. But you know,
Speaker 4: I always got to always we always will had a
Speaker 4: high draft picks and and top talent. But uh, you know,
Speaker 4: order in order for that type of stuff to succeed,
Speaker 4: you had to have a support and cast around you.
Speaker 4: And uh, a lot of people will come in and
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, leave for various reasons about whatever.
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I just try to go in
Speaker 4: there and do my best and you know, hang around
Speaker 4: the league because the league back then it was very competitive.
Speaker 4: It's not like it is today. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Oh you don't think it's competitive today?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, very competitive, yeah, but different. Oh, they just Uh,
Speaker 4: they're like crybabies to me. You know, you can't touch them.
Speaker 4: You know, we basically played football when we played you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you get you a ticket tech file, you
Speaker 4: might touch somebody and that's a file.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: We play handshake. You know, you come across the lane,
Speaker 4: you worry about I'm gonna hit you for sure, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was it was more physical
Speaker 4: and you know, but you know I watched the game
Speaker 4: evolve more to you know, uh per se. Yeah, the finesse,
Speaker 4: the outskirts, the threes by the big man, you know,
Speaker 4: so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: That's across the board because even in football, it used
Speaker 2: to be receivers were afraid to go across the middle
Speaker 2: right with the Ronnie. Lots of jack tatums back in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 4: Well with your thort, ye go get that ball man.
Speaker 2: I used to hit it from uh from receivers age.
Speaker 2: Don't put that ball high. Yeah, you better hit me
Speaker 2: in my chest and given low, I don't want to
Speaker 2: get lit up. But because you can't hit him nowadays.
Speaker 2: So that was the same thing you're saying in the NBA.
Speaker 2: You could bang down low, you put your body on
Speaker 2: him and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could, and uh, the NBA was a real
Speaker 4: NBA then. You know, you had all the superstars in
Speaker 4: that end. So you know, every team he was stacked
Speaker 4: from one to five and if you didn't bring your
Speaker 4: egg game, you was gonna get embarrassed. So, you know,
Speaker 4: I was kind of proud to say that I was
Speaker 4: a thirteen fourteen year starter. I kind of fell off
Speaker 4: in my latter years for whatever reason. You know, the
Speaker 4: league was changed, and you know you had Shaquille coming
Speaker 4: in there, so you know, you know those type of guys.
Speaker 4: But he was just so dominant to where you know, uh,
Speaker 4: it's just been a time for you to move on.
Speaker 4: You know, you know how sports go, rightdy.
Speaker 2: Uh huh you know, uh huh. When you say he
Speaker 2: was so dominant, what what made was it just his
Speaker 2: size that made him different than that. He was so
Speaker 2: much bigger and stronger than everybody.
Speaker 4: Else man everything you know, Shaq he was. He was agile,
Speaker 4: you know, he could jump, run, he could do it all.
Speaker 4: For a guy his side, yeah, you know, you never
Speaker 4: you just never see that anymore. You know, maybe we will,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, uh, you know they talk about
Speaker 4: all the goats you know this, that and the other,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I think about that all the time.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think about some of the things
Speaker 4: that the people saying this day and age where they
Speaker 4: forget about some of the old greats, you know, like
Speaker 4: Rice Chamberlain and Bill Russell, you know, those types of guys,
Speaker 4: Julius Irving. You know, they should be included in those
Speaker 4: goat conversations as where I think anyway, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, but Benjamin's whether it's in the studio, can
Speaker 1: we be honest? The Clippers were terrible when you played
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 4: Fo Yeah, yeah they were. I wasn't trying to really
Speaker 4: bomb on them, but yes, we were fifteen and seventy.
Speaker 4: What you think a year you were fifteen, seventy, twelve
Speaker 4: and seventy y'all forgot well in seventy eighty two game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve and seven, twelve.
Speaker 4: And seventy on twelve games when you're twelve and seventy.
Speaker 2: And what's that like?
Speaker 1: I mean, night after night you go out there, you
Speaker 1: just get pounded. Well, what do you do, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you drink heavily? How do you handle that panoia?
Speaker 4: Well, A lot of partying, you know, a lot of drinks,
Speaker 4: a lot of reckless behavior. That's what I call it
Speaker 4: reckless behavior.
Speaker 2: But what was reckless? What kind of behavior was reckless?
Speaker 4: You know? Excuse me, the women in the clubs, the drinking,
Speaker 4: you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: All right, so you go in to a club and
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you're gonna stand out. You're seven feet tall,
Speaker 1: and somebody starts talking to you a woman. Do you
Speaker 1: even admit you play for the Clippers or do you
Speaker 1: lie and say you play for the Lakers?
Speaker 4: Well I couldn't have, so it didn't matter if people
Speaker 4: knew me, you know when I came here, when I
Speaker 4: came out here. So you know that that was a
Speaker 4: good thing. I mean I was. I was very noticeable
Speaker 4: and h and row and you know all the other
Speaker 4: stuff that probably should have been torn down a little
Speaker 4: bit earlier. But you know, that just was me. And
Speaker 4: I think it was the act of it was an
Speaker 4: act of rebellion because of the of the situation that
Speaker 4: that that the Clippers were in, and you know, the
Speaker 4: magnitude that we was given to the league was negative,
Speaker 4: you know, and those first I say, three four years,
Speaker 4: what weren't what they weren't too pleasant? Here in l
Speaker 4: A and Uh I said, well you was there, fred
Speaker 4: I said, well, either either I'm gonna make either l
Speaker 4: they gonna make me, or they're gonna break me. So
Speaker 4: you know, I can remember times when I wouldn't even
Speaker 4: pick up the newspaper read it, you know, because it
Speaker 4: was always some negative.
Speaker 2: Did you know going into the season that you guys
Speaker 2: didn't have a chance because that there's situation. I've talked
Speaker 2: to other guys that know, you know, going into the
Speaker 2: season where the organization didn't make any commitments in the
Speaker 2: off season, but you went into the season knowing we're
Speaker 2: not gonna win too many games, so this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a long year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we knew that, but you know, we
Speaker 4: still had to go out and do our job, still
Speaker 4: was getting paid.
Speaker 2: How hard was that? What to just go out every
Speaker 2: night knowing geound, I know you got paid and people say, well,
Speaker 2: you get paid anyway, but just knowing that it was
Speaker 2: very much didn't have a chance to win.
Speaker 4: It was very hard. It's very hard to deal with.
Speaker 4: And I think the surrounding aspect of the people in
Speaker 4: our life, you know, they they pounded me, especially uh friends,
Speaker 4: you remember Aleen voicing I never forgot her. Boy, Aleen
Speaker 4: pounded me. You was pretty fair, Jim, Jim Jim Jim
Speaker 4: Hill was pretty fair. You know, some of you guys
Speaker 4: were fair. But you know it was that one out there,
Speaker 4: and there was a Leen oh Man just every day constantly.
Speaker 2: Did you ever talk to her about it and say,
Speaker 2: get off my back? What's the deal?
Speaker 4: I did? But I think when I uh, I think
Speaker 4: she had what was she a report in Atlanta or something?
Speaker 2: Eleen? She worked here for a while.
Speaker 4: I know she worked here in LA But I'm saying
Speaker 4: after she left here, did she reported in Atlanta somewhere?
Speaker 4: Or did she She wasn't.
Speaker 1: She might have gone to Sacramento. I can't exactly remember.
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about that.
Speaker 4: I think she was in Atlanta because I remember doing
Speaker 4: an interview down there. I think I'm not I'm not
Speaker 4: positively sure, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was, you know, so, but no, we we teased
Speaker 2: it the last you know, the last couple of days
Speaker 2: of you when the greats would come to town, the Jordan's,
Speaker 2: the birds, all the people would come into town. Can
Speaker 2: you just retell the story of Michael Jeordian come to
Speaker 2: town and your thought process because it was at the
Speaker 2: height of Jordan man. So so her.
Speaker 6: Thought process process of you wanted to do something for
Speaker 6: the Clipper fans, right, that was your You were wanted
Speaker 6: to give back to the fans of Los Angeles by
Speaker 6: allowing Michael Jordan to rocked the crowd.
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, yeah, I did that purposely. And uh,
Speaker 4: I said, well, it might be a good time, you know,
Speaker 4: to just hit the crowd roar. Hell. I wanted to
Speaker 4: see what he was gonna do my damnself. So you know,
Speaker 4: it was a good thing for me. But you know,
Speaker 4: I had some of my best games against you know,
Speaker 4: the the higher upfers you know in the league.
Speaker 6: Wait wait, wait, wait, so wait, I'm just trying to
Speaker 6: get specific with this now.
Speaker 4: So okay, so so you.
Speaker 2: Saw him on the wing guarding someone and.
Speaker 4: You okay, okay, this how I went, all right, Okay,
Speaker 4: we we were we were running our we would run
Speaker 4: our offense and uh and uh I knew he was
Speaker 4: gonna be in that lane. It was left, all right,
Speaker 4: So hmmm, it might be a good time to rock
Speaker 4: the crowd and just hear roar, you know. So I
Speaker 4: think I did that, like at the thirty fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: just just just listening to the crowd because he was
Speaker 4: an exciting player and uh, you know, he was one
Speaker 4: of our generational talents, you know that probably would never
Speaker 4: be duplicate. So yes, I did. I pretty much you
Speaker 4: can count on two steals at least for me every
Speaker 4: game we played against Chicago because I wanted to see
Speaker 4: what Jordan was gonna do myself. So it was good.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was one of the issues with the Clippers
Speaker 1: that they had their starting center throwing the.
Speaker 2: Ball to the other cheamp.
Speaker 4: Well hey, hey, I well one of our players was
Speaker 4: in there one like they wanted, like he was on
Speaker 4: by itself. But it wasn't like he was gonna let
Speaker 4: the ball get get buying, buying, no way anyway, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So you know, it was kind
Speaker 4: of like, humm, let me see what he's gonna do,
Speaker 4: which I already knew was just gonna do. So that
Speaker 4: is two I had to chalk up for head.
Speaker 6: And I was like I would saying, that's like me
Speaker 6: playing against Dion Sanders, and I got throw one to
Speaker 6: Dion just to see what he's gonna do.
Speaker 2: See if he gonna high step down the sidelines.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I was probably better than us. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had probably better well.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, the first couple of years in Detroit,
Speaker 2: we weren't too much better.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember Clippers, did you play with Yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah it was it was Barry and and me and
Speaker 4: two other people and and and everything else.
Speaker 6: We lost games where we was scoring forty points and
Speaker 6: oh yeah on a regular basis. Man, Okay, So so Clippers.
Speaker 2: You also talked about before we got on the air,
Speaker 2: talked about you played some you spent some time in Seattle.
Speaker 2: How what was that experience?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: Man, I loved Seattle. It was great up there, man, Yeah,
Speaker 4: played some of my best years up there. Yeah. I
Speaker 4: love paying with Kemp, love paying with Payton. Even though
Speaker 4: you know, I had some issues with a couple of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, issues with Yeah, issues with Kemp or Yead, issues
Speaker 2: with had.
Speaker 4: I had issues Payton. Yeah. We was just we didn't
Speaker 4: get along at all. So I think that was almost
Speaker 4: came to blows one time, but it was. It was
Speaker 4: real tense in there, so you know, we he didn't
Speaker 4: like me and I ain't like him.
Speaker 2: Was he the was he the leader of that of
Speaker 2: that that team and organization at that time. That that
Speaker 2: what he didn't like you challenging him or just personality wise,
Speaker 2: it didn't you guys just didn't get.
Speaker 4: A Yeah, personality wise we didn't get along. And uh,
Speaker 4: I thought he thought he was better than me because
Speaker 4: he was from Oakland and I was from the smallest city.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't taking no shi. So you know, it
Speaker 4: was something that was going down on a regular basis,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, so, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: but but Seattle was a great, great time in my career.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed Seattle and I had some of my
Speaker 4: best years up there with the super Stonis.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to remember. How many kids did Sean
Speaker 2: Camp have.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think like thirteen or something like that.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: But you have kids too, don't you know?
Speaker 4: Little six yes, six kIPS, yes, sir, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: How how old are they?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: From thirty nine to twenty six? Okay, yeah, thirty.
Speaker 2: You got a team, you got, you got a team
Speaker 2: and a sixth man.
Speaker 4: I got four boys and two girls okay, yeah, hm,
Speaker 4: now four girls and two boys, that's what I got.
Speaker 4: I got. I got four girls and two boys. That's
Speaker 4: what I got. Y'all, y'all make sure y'all check us
Speaker 4: out and v vem so we can. Uh, so y'all
Speaker 4: can hear more of this. And then y'all get confused
Speaker 4: as like you, I'm old and now here I'll be
Speaker 4: sixty one this ye, so don't come out like it
Speaker 4: used to right then?
Speaker 2: You know, no, no, you know something.
Speaker 4: You get older, things change.
Speaker 2: Four boys to four boys, two girls. Yeah, it's which is.
Speaker 4: I got four girls?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I got it. But you know what my daughters, My
Speaker 4: daughters took after me.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: I got a daughter that plays overseas and she got
Speaker 4: drafted to Seattle Sea out of storm and uh she
Speaker 4: was cutting but she she was she she was playing
Speaker 4: in Chicago for the Sky and then went overseas and
Speaker 4: my well, my girls, well that that girl is she
Speaker 4: six feet five inches? Yeah, that's one of my daughter
Speaker 4: one of them. Are they all tall? Yeah? All my
Speaker 4: girls are tall? Yes, yeah, they are all six six
Speaker 4: feet one of them six five six four sixty three
Speaker 4: and the other one was like five eight five nine. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, but let's talk about the movie Sean
Speaker 7: J put together. Tell us about the movie vimeo. Y'all
Speaker 7: can check it out well where you where? You don't
Speaker 7: know about the move? What's it called? First of all,
Speaker 7: what's it called. It's called the Ballad of Anoy Benjamin
Speaker 7: the ballot. Yeah, okay, So what's about? Break it down
Speaker 7: for it? What's it about?
Speaker 4: It's about my autobiography and uh, you know growing up
Speaker 4: in Louisiana, my row Louisiana. You know some of my
Speaker 4: h rocks that I had, like my grandmother and my mother,
Speaker 4: you know, single parent home, the worst part of my role.
Speaker 4: Wanted to wanted to show my family something that was
Speaker 4: different so we could be successful. And you know, they
Speaker 4: they they they clinged on to me because I lost
Speaker 4: my father when I was eight years old. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that kind of drove me to sports to be the
Speaker 4: athlete that I became. And a lot of people might
Speaker 4: say different things about me, but you know, I probably
Speaker 4: could have did a little bit better. But I'm not
Speaker 4: ashamed of my career at all. You know, I played
Speaker 4: seventeen professional years.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: A lot of people can't say that, no, so you know, and.
Speaker 2: And you should be proud of that because you know,
Speaker 2: in professional sports is not always easy to last exactly,
Speaker 2: you know, it really isn't. I mean, I say this
Speaker 2: all the time. I was I was lucky enough number one,
Speaker 2: but also from southern California. I am, well, I grew
Speaker 2: up in Arizona, but then they came here for college.
Speaker 2: But I was. I'm proud that I played sixteen years
Speaker 2: in the NFL, absolutely because nobody, you know, they can't take.
Speaker 4: That away from They can't. They can and they can't
Speaker 4: say that they played that long.
Speaker 6: Right, So.
Speaker 4: The double dichotomy about today's sports is they don't last. Yep,
Speaker 4: They're not made of the same cloth that we were.
Speaker 4: You know, my generation, you know, we got X amount
Speaker 4: of Hall of Famers. We all played fifteen sixteen years.
Speaker 4: You know these cats here, they played one year and
Speaker 4: they hurt.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't touch them or they not playing hurt.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, you're talking about.
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 4: Low?
Speaker 5: Low?
Speaker 6: Yeah, load management, all of that. Hold hold that hold that.
Speaker 6: You got time to hang out a little bit more.
Speaker 6: We're gonna talk some more, okay.
Speaker 4: Vimeo Vimeo. All right, that's that's coming video. That's ballot
Speaker 4: ballot over. We're gonna promote that all day long. We
Speaker 4: got right stay right there, all right, but no, it's
Speaker 4: gonna hang with us another segment.
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Speaker 6: Uh, all right, Benoi, Benjamin, still with us, hanging out
Speaker 6: with us in studio. Always a pleasure to have you
Speaker 6: in studio, my man. So give us an update on
Speaker 6: you now, Man, give us an update on you now
Speaker 6: you move back home to Louisiana.
Speaker 2: You in moreau right, you left La, you're in Moreau
Speaker 2: and and how things going for you now?
Speaker 4: Well, where everything's fine. You know, my mother's a little
Speaker 4: bit older now and it's kind of wanted to be
Speaker 4: around hud Is. You know, we're so limited now my
Speaker 4: grandma's gone. Well, hell all my all of my people
Speaker 4: was gone from my father's side, at my mother's side,
Speaker 4: so you know, it's a more sense of urgency to
Speaker 4: be around my mother. Try to try to let her,
Speaker 4: you know, try to let her do what she do.
Speaker 4: Forset me every day all day about something. But you know,
Speaker 4: like I say, I enjoy it because at least she's alive,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, but you know, health
Speaker 4: had some health issues and decided to go home and
Speaker 4: take care of But I'm a lot better now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're good. All with all the health issues
Speaker 2: and things like that. You know, involved and said get
Speaker 2: your right.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the doctors got involved to say, hey, buddy,
Speaker 4: you need to you need to take care of yourself
Speaker 4: or you know it's it's not gonna end. Well. So
Speaker 4: I made kind of a decision in there now I
Speaker 4: wanted to live and and uh, you know, take care
Speaker 4: of my mother and see when my kids became, and
Speaker 4: especially my granddaughter. My grandkids take everybody six or seven grandkids,
Speaker 4: so you know, they enjoyed watching them grow. And uh,
Speaker 4: you know my kids are all grown, kind of still
Speaker 4: angry with them over child support issues.
Speaker 2: What what what are those child support issues?
Speaker 4: But well, you know, well you know how the women are,
Speaker 4: you know, back in the oh. It's all been settled now,
Speaker 4: but you know they, uh, they came out to me
Speaker 4: and they came after me hard. They say I had,
Speaker 4: They said that I had, They say that they well,
Speaker 4: they had a judgment on me for over five hundred
Speaker 4: and some thousand, and uh I had to clear that up,
Speaker 4: which finally did.
Speaker 2: But was there more than one woman?
Speaker 4: No, there was only one. I had paid her a
Speaker 4: million dollars and it still wasn't enough. So so you know,
Speaker 4: uh been divorced three times. You know, just uh, just
Speaker 4: doing me right now. You just want to get into
Speaker 4: myself and make sure that I'm all right right now,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that's try to take
Speaker 4: care of my mom and let her let her last
Speaker 4: year's be uh be productive and joyful.
Speaker 2: So well, you're looking healthy, man, and I'm glad you're
Speaker 2: taking care of yourself real quick man, what what was
Speaker 2: going back to basketball man, your time with the Clippers
Speaker 2: and your time in the NBA over seventeen years. Who
Speaker 2: was the who was the toughest player you played against?
Speaker 2: Like the most difficult guard for you when you were
Speaker 2: when you were playing that you like you went into
Speaker 2: that game or you played that game, you're like, man,
Speaker 2: I gotta guard this cat man. It's a rough night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of all of them. But but you know,
Speaker 4: like like I was telling you, uh doing, during my
Speaker 4: time in the league, we had a we had a
Speaker 4: very unique cast of characters. And I would say probably
Speaker 4: my tough guard was Hakim Elijah w Haquem Elijah on
Speaker 4: Kareem was up there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keem had so many I mean you had so
Speaker 2: many moves, right, do it all one time?
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, bring your a game here, gonna embarrass you.
Speaker 4: So you know, no one wanted to get embarrassed. So
Speaker 4: I made sure that our player because you know that's
Speaker 4: what people will say about it. Well, we know he's
Speaker 4: gonna play tonight because it's a big time team coming in.
Speaker 4: But you know, the live brulepools chipping on, but somebody
Speaker 4: being coming in there. I was gonna do my thing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: The movie is about Panoit management.
Speaker 1: Information about it on your socials at Banoit movie, at
Speaker 1: Banoit movie and Fred before we go, Benoit brought me
Speaker 1: a gift.
Speaker 2: Really yeah. He wants me to uh open on on
Speaker 2: on the show. So he brought me a gift, which
Speaker 2: is very nice. If you be, I appreciate you man cool.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get some jobs out of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh oh oh okay. So he brought me a
Speaker 6: coffee mug. Het coffee mug and it says mister Cooper's
Speaker 6: money and I'm I'm I'm I'm assuming this is a
Speaker 6: reference to hanging with mister Cooper's money, right, Holly, who
Speaker 6: basically takes care of me and allows me to do
Speaker 6: what I do.
Speaker 2: Mister Cooper's money is what he says. It's all good.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: She listened to the show, so.
Speaker 4: You of course she got to listen to the show.
Speaker 4: She critiques me all the time.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Benoy, thanks for hanging man, safe travels home.
Speaker 4: Good sir, Thank you, Fred good saying all you guys,
Speaker 4: and and get that move villmo.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: The ballad of with Alloyd, Benjamin.
Speaker 2: That's a that's ballotoy, Benjamin. All right, this hour we
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