Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you easy
Speaker 1: Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2: But we're talking about boycotts. And the reason we're talking
Speaker 2: about boycotts is the outrageous actions of some people that
Speaker 2: have taken place in the last few weeks, with some
Speaker 2: intensity in the last couple of weeks, going after Tesla dealerships,
Speaker 2: ev charging stations in Massachusetts in Lyttleton, Massachusetts, as well
Speaker 2: as the automobiles or Tesla automobiles owned by individuals, all
Speaker 2: in protest of Elon Musk's support for the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: particularly the Department of Government Efficiency, which obviously can be criticized.
Speaker 2: But you don't criticize by throwing paint on your neighbor's
Speaker 2: Tesla or in some Tesla that you happen to see
Speaker 2: on the street. Nor do you fire shots in or
Speaker 2: break glass or to face a prop property public or
Speaker 2: private anyway. So my question is have you ever engaged
Speaker 2: in a boycott of any sort? I think the most
Speaker 2: effective boycott that is in my recent memory was the
Speaker 2: boycott of bud Light Beer. I do not believe that
Speaker 2: they were they were examples of any activity of physical
Speaker 2: confrontation or destruction of private or personal property I don't recall.
Speaker 2: If there are you more than welcome to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: I think anyone who's caught destroying private property or in
Speaker 2: this case, destroying ev charging stations, UH, they got to
Speaker 2: do some time in my opinion, six one, seven thirty
Speaker 2: that's one line and six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We have three folks who have held over
Speaker 2: during the newscast, and we will continue with this conversation
Speaker 2: for however long your interest in it persists. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Carl in New York. Carl, welcome back, Thank
Speaker 2: you for holding on through the news.
Speaker 3: You are next on Nightside.
Speaker 4: How you doing, Dan. I boy cott men and Jerry's cut.
Speaker 4: I boy cott Ben and Jerry's because I don't like
Speaker 4: their politics or some of the causes they support. I
Speaker 4: have been in a protest. We went down in the
Speaker 4: nineties to protests NAFTA with the United Auto Workers. You
Speaker 4: carried a coffin down the street. We carried a coffin
Speaker 4: down the street to the Capitol and that place was
Speaker 4: full of unions that day. And another case of the
Speaker 4: government not listening to people.
Speaker 2: And by the way, NAFTA hurt us for many years,
Speaker 2: and you had both Republicans and Democrats, both New Gingrish
Speaker 2: and Bill Clinton, who basically came together. If George Bush
Speaker 2: had been president, many of the unions that supported NAFTA
Speaker 2: would have would have stopped it from becoming law.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I listened to a lot of talk radio.
Speaker 4: Dan you I will see you guys till midnight, and
Speaker 4: then I'll switch over to WLW in Cleveland or WJR
Speaker 4: and Detroit, and you can't these politicians are not listening
Speaker 4: to people, because if they were listening to the stuff
Speaker 4: that people were saying on these stations, things would be different, definitely.
Speaker 3: So well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am familiar with the call letters of
Speaker 2: those stations, but I don't know if they have.
Speaker 3: You know, what their attitude is.
Speaker 2: You know, some talk shows we try to basically invite
Speaker 2: all points of view to join the conversation, and sometimes
Speaker 2: we get a little heated with some of the callers. Primarily,
Speaker 2: I don't get heated over issues. For example, we just
Speaker 2: had a great conversation I thought with Jay from Plymouth.
Speaker 2: Jay and I probably don't see either way on much politically,
Speaker 2: but we've never had harsh words with each other. I
Speaker 2: get frustrated when people will engage in a conversation and
Speaker 2: they just want to make a speech. And that's where
Speaker 2: I get first, what are the politicians not hearing? What
Speaker 2: are the politicians not hearing that you're hearing on my
Speaker 2: station or in the other.
Speaker 4: Stations that most of the people are not against this
Speaker 4: stage thing about saving money? In fact, do you hear
Speaker 4: them complain? But they don't talk about the kind of
Speaker 4: money that's been that they've uncovered. And I had a question,
Speaker 4: and I don't hear it asked pretty much anywhere, if anybody,
Speaker 4: but anybody but Musk was the head of DOGE. Do
Speaker 4: you think everyhalfs pushback?
Speaker 2: No, in all honesty, I think that the pushback from
Speaker 2: the left on government cutbacks. I mean you can go
Speaker 2: back to Bill Proxmeyer, who was a Democratic senator from
Speaker 2: Wisconsin thirty years ago. And Proxmeyer used to unveil every
Speaker 2: year what he thought were examples of wasted fraud. And
Speaker 2: he worked in some ways with Senator Simpson, a Republican
Speaker 2: from Wyoming, Alan Simpson, but they never got anywhere because
Speaker 2: there was sort of this institutional resistance that they would
Speaker 2: talk about it and they would try to get it
Speaker 2: out of committees, but there was never much progress. Obviously,
Speaker 2: President Trump is a different sort of chief executive, and
Speaker 2: he has brought in Elon Musk. People can go to
Speaker 2: a website which was I was directed to the other
Speaker 2: day by a friend of mine, which is doge just
Speaker 2: simply doge dot gov dge gov, and that lists a
Speaker 2: lot of the specific programs that have been cut. Have
Speaker 2: you gone to that website?
Speaker 4: No, I have not.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, knowing your philosophical point of view here,
Speaker 2: I think that you would enjoy it. There's a there's
Speaker 2: a there's a lot of information here, specific examples. Okay,
Speaker 2: for example, I'm just looking at it right now. Today
Speaker 2: was posted and again some of these are not huge
Speaker 2: numbers of numbers, but for example, one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: These are grants that were distributed by the NIH. One
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars to Vanderbilt University to the South to
Speaker 2: study social networks among sexual and gender minorities, thirty seven
Speaker 2: thousand for the University of Houston to study fear of
Speaker 2: deportation in Latenix young adults. Six hundred and twenty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars for an LGBT plus inclusive Team pregnancy prevention program
Speaker 2: for transgender boys. That one kind of confuses me, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, because right, six hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars for studying cannabis use among sexual minority,
Speaker 2: gender diverse individuals.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Why the government would be doing that. And it goes
Speaker 2: on and on and on, and a lot of this is,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff that the the other administra, the previous
Speaker 2: administration was was very active on. Let's see how it
Speaker 2: works out at the end here. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff that I don't get it. I mean,
Speaker 2: one of the things that bothers me the most was
Speaker 2: there's there's some suggestions that Stacy Abrams, the former unsuccessful
Speaker 2: Democratic candidate in Georgia for governor, that somehow some charity
Speaker 2: that she was running got two billion dollars. Now I
Speaker 2: want to see proof of that. That's real money or
Speaker 2: two billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's absolutely crazy. Some of the stuff
Speaker 4: that they've uncovered, and why and why people would be
Speaker 4: against that just blows my mind. You know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 4: the people.
Speaker 2: The silly stuff, Yeah, well, well to some people, they
Speaker 2: don't consider that silly, and and the people.
Speaker 3: Who are benefiting from those programs.
Speaker 2: Look, if they were going to give away millions of
Speaker 2: dollars to older talk show hosts on on WBZ Boston
Speaker 2: in recognition, you know, I probably would say it sounds
Speaker 2: good to me, But that's not going to happen. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody functions kind of in their own self interest, and
Speaker 2: and that's what politicians do. They satisfy the self interest
Speaker 2: of their constituencies.
Speaker 4: And now, well, I would beg I would beg the
Speaker 4: different there. They're not listening to us. I am part
Speaker 4: of somebody's constituency that they're not. Oh absolutely, I called.
Speaker 4: I called on an issue a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 4: to my house, my house representative, and to my senator.
Speaker 4: I have yet to receive an email or call or anything.
Speaker 4: And it happens all the time. They don't.
Speaker 3: Well, Carl, I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: All I'm telling you is you're an American who probably
Speaker 2: has worked your entire life. Uh, you pay taxes, you
Speaker 2: get it, you have a job, you pay taxes, You
Speaker 2: probably do some good work in your in your community.
Speaker 2: They know you're okay. They are appealing to uh, those
Speaker 2: who the what do they say, squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Speaker 2: And so you have constituencies that probably both parties have
Speaker 2: that they take care of. I think some of the
Speaker 2: constituencies that the Biden administration I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was run on the government. Okay, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: there were there were people under who are making huge decisions, huge,
Speaker 2: huge decisions. And let's let's put it out some light's
Speaker 2: the greatest disinfected. Let's put it out there in the
Speaker 2: light of day. And if if Dolge can come up
Speaker 2: with legitimate examples of waste, fraud and abuse, let's put
Speaker 2: it out there. If they're unable to put it up,
Speaker 2: to come up with specifics, then then they will. They
Speaker 2: will fail. It's just it's really as simple as that.
Speaker 2: Let's let's open the books. Okay, Let's open the books
Speaker 2: and see what they get. What they get, That's all.
Speaker 4: That's it. Hey, I'm listening to you on the radio tonight.
Speaker 4: Usually i'm listening to your online, but I was able
Speaker 4: to get get you in here.
Speaker 3: What part of you?
Speaker 4: I'm about ten miles north to Albany, sure, yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're just over the border for yeah, we're like.
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty miles or so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. Well, if you're up a little
Speaker 2: bit in the mountains there, normally you might am blocked
Speaker 2: by the Berkshires because ours is a simple direction, little signal.
Speaker 2: But it's great to know that we're that we're zooming
Speaker 2: in on radio. Carl is always thank you so much.
Speaker 2: What do you do in New York? What sort of work?
Speaker 4: I don't I'm retired right now.
Speaker 3: What type of work did you do?
Speaker 4: Air conditioning? Refrigeration?
Speaker 3: Man, I'll say it. That's a great that is a
Speaker 3: great career, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I try to talk I try to talk all the
Speaker 4: young people that that that I can talk to about
Speaker 4: getting into the trades, because right now they're dying for
Speaker 4: texts and it's like start at thirty dollars an now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that look I paid I paid that
Speaker 2: technicians and text I have a good company. But every
Speaker 2: time the HVAC guys come out, it's all opening up
Speaker 2: the checkbook. I'm a big, big fan of people who
Speaker 2: are who work for a living. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, those
Speaker 2: are people who really do work for a living. I'm
Speaker 2: not a big fan of a lot of the paper
Speaker 2: pushes who find themselves in government jobs and they don't
Speaker 2: really produce anything other than you know, reports, information or
Speaker 2: whatever and pull people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got I have relatives that worked for the
Speaker 4: state who've been there thirty years of a collect them
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars a year in penship.
Speaker 2: For doing nothing, in my opinion, nothing that's productive. Hey, Carl,
Speaker 2: I got a run, great call, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, keep calling the show. Thank you much.
Speaker 2: Take a quick break. I went a little long with Carl.
Speaker 2: Interesting caller. We'll continue. We'll pick up the pace. The
Speaker 2: only lines that are open right now. Six one, seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Have you ever engaged in a boycott? There
Speaker 2: must be some people out there in my audience who
Speaker 2: decided that butt light was not there a cup of tea.
Speaker 2: I've never been a butt like guy. Had drank but
Speaker 2: light not a bad product. But I've always been a
Speaker 2: partial for some reason. Of course, I know why I
Speaker 2: was partial to course. And for those of you that
Speaker 2: know me, you may know why a course used to
Speaker 2: be a Colorado beer that could never get back east
Speaker 2: because it was, you know, cooled in the Rockies and.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 2: And finally a friend of mine, a girl I was
Speaker 2: dating at the time, brought me back a six pack,
Speaker 2: of course from Colorado, and I fell in love with
Speaker 2: cors Uh. But I know there were people out there
Speaker 2: who said, look, never drinking a bud light again. Have
Speaker 2: you engaged in any sort of a boycott. The best
Speaker 2: call tonight was from Jay who talked about boycotting boy
Speaker 2: boycotting Chicken fil A. I like Chick fil A. I
Speaker 2: like Chick fil A. I don't care who you boycotted.
Speaker 2: Love to know what compelled you to boycott. And I
Speaker 2: hope none of you have ever engaged in physical violence
Speaker 2: as a former boycott, because that's not boycott, that's destroying
Speaker 2: personal or private, public or personal property. Back on nights
Speaker 2: Side again, six seven, nine thirty gets you through coming
Speaker 2: back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, we go, gonna go to Margie
Speaker 2: the Catskills Calls, New York.
Speaker 3: Back to back. Hey Margie, welcome, Hi.
Speaker 5: I just want to congratulate you because tonight it has
Speaker 5: been conversation, not pontification.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. We try to do that most nice ahead.
Speaker 3: So what I want to tell.
Speaker 5: You is it's a different look at boycotting. Suppose the
Speaker 5: whole town decides to boycott something. I haven't heard that tonight.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any community has ever done that.
Speaker 2: Maybe someone has an example out there, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I never even thought of that. Have you ever heard
Speaker 2: of anything like that?
Speaker 5: Yes, because our town did it. I will keep us anonymous.
Speaker 5: The only franchises we have in our town is a
Speaker 5: drug store which we couldn't keep out, and a bank.
Speaker 5: Other than that, there are no franchises in our town.
Speaker 5: We are a big tourist town and in the summer
Speaker 5: the population swells sec and homeowners tourists, and we have
Speaker 5: a local coffee shop, a local luncheon shop, and nice dinners.
Speaker 5: So Starbucks took a look at us. McDonald's took a
Speaker 5: look at us Wendy's. How do you think we kept
Speaker 5: them out?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to take a guess.
Speaker 2: I will bet you that there was some sort of
Speaker 2: zoning restriction or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know. If you have like a board of selectmen,
Speaker 3: who's your local government.
Speaker 5: We have a town supervisor and a town board.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would assume that there was some regulation I'm
Speaker 2: guessing now which said that, you know that only restaurants
Speaker 2: could be allowed, which had you know, seating, and there
Speaker 2: could be no drive throughs and and there were no
Speaker 2: something like that, which basically meant Wendy's decided or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it's not worth us to try to put a
Speaker 2: franchise in that community.
Speaker 3: Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 6: Probably you are brilliant.
Speaker 5: We stopped. We have everything in town, local coffee shops,
Speaker 5: lunch shops, whatever. It was a very simple law, the
Speaker 5: whole town vote.
Speaker 7: It's for it.
Speaker 5: You cannot have a drive through.
Speaker 2: Okay, I hit I lucked out on that one, Margie.
Speaker 5: You because if you don't have a drive through, none
Speaker 5: of those franchises want you.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, that's they do ninety percent of their business
Speaker 2: with the drive through. I've gone to some of those places.
Speaker 2: I tend not to. I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 2: any of the fast food places. I love a local diner.
Speaker 3: I love a local restaurant, that's what that's what I love.
Speaker 3: I don't like the big franchises.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're convenient, and if you're a trucker and
Speaker 2: you're out on the road and you got to stop.
Speaker 3: You have no choice. But I'm with you. When did
Speaker 3: the tourists leave your town Labor Day.
Speaker 7: Or do they stay there there?
Speaker 5: Well, sixty percent of our houses are part time seasonal people.
Speaker 5: We love seasonal people. They pay our taxes and they
Speaker 5: don't send their kids to our schools.
Speaker 3: I got you there.
Speaker 5: I just love that you understand it. And I hope
Speaker 5: some of the people that try single boycotts, we'll just
Speaker 5: go to their town government and say, hey, enough of
Speaker 5: us don't want this. What are you going to do
Speaker 5: about it?
Speaker 2: Well, you've got to come up with a set of
Speaker 2: bylaws or rules and regulations that are consistent because obviously
Speaker 2: you can't have a regulation that says we're not going
Speaker 2: to have a McDonald's, but we can have a Wendy's,
Speaker 2: or we can have this, because then you're going to
Speaker 2: be discriminating and you're going to end up in a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: But what I suggested and what your town was wise
Speaker 2: enough to do, just say, hey, we don't want for
Speaker 2: public safety purposes as well as for the character of
Speaker 2: the town, we do not want drive throughs. If you
Speaker 2: want to open a restaurant, that's fine. But that will
Speaker 2: keep the McDonald's in, the Wendy's and those other big
Speaker 2: burger kings out of your community.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for that. I suggest that
Speaker 5: for everybody. Good night.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 2: Good night, Margie appreciate the suggestion. Back on Nightside, here's
Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the hour. The only
Speaker 2: line is six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Moving back after.
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Speaker 2: All right, we have some patient listeners here and I
Speaker 2: got to get to some people here. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Angelo in Newton. Angelo, thanks for your loyalty and
Speaker 2: thanks for your patients.
Speaker 3: Go right ahead.
Speaker 8: Angelo, You're welcome. Dan, thank you for taking my call.
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Speaker 9: Dan.
Speaker 8: I agree with you about those people. I'm not a
Speaker 8: I'm not a well I forgot what it's called. Well, anyways,
Speaker 8: I agree with you with those people that are doing
Speaker 8: things to those CAUs that something should be done to them.
Speaker 8: And another thing, I I agree they should do things
Speaker 8: about people that's stealing cars. And I don't understand why
Speaker 8: people leave keys in their cars.
Speaker 3: Well I had it.
Speaker 2: I think that the people are not thinking angelo because
Speaker 2: they were always I guess gotta make that mistake once
Speaker 2: and there goes your car.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and let me tell you something. I woke up
Speaker 8: one morning at like four o'clock in the morning and
Speaker 8: I found a car, a stolen car that was pocked
Speaker 8: in my driveway. I called the police. I called the
Speaker 8: police and and they asked you if I knew the person,
Speaker 8: and I says, no, I don't know this person is.
Speaker 8: So they just looked in the car. They found the
Speaker 8: keys in it, they found the registration, and they didn't
Speaker 8: do nothing. They said, if you have to move your vehicle,
Speaker 8: just take the car and put it out on the street.
Speaker 8: So I says, wait a minute, I says, let me
Speaker 8: ask my brother if he knows anybody. He says, no,
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Speaker 8: call the police back again and they had to come.
Speaker 8: They had to come back. We check everything, and with
Speaker 8: somebody in my away from my house, they stole the
Speaker 8: con They pocked it in my driveway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they took it for a joy ride. They took
Speaker 2: it for a joy ride and they dumped it on
Speaker 2: your property. Crazy.
Speaker 8: Another crazy thing, Another crazy thing was a truck was
Speaker 8: pocked in my driveway. Woke come out of the morning
Speaker 8: and it was blood in it and there was something.
Speaker 8: There's something strange it was done about that. Why do
Speaker 8: people believe he's in it in their cars? I don't understand.
Speaker 8: But like you say, but people that do something to
Speaker 8: people's cars they should be something should be done about
Speaker 8: and it's wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks Angelo, You're very welcome. Don't hang up,
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Speaker 2: we got Nick and Brookline. Nick, you were next one night, said.
Speaker 6: Welcome, Hey Dan, thank you, Thanks love your show. Just
Speaker 6: to let you know, call very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Sure, right ahead.
Speaker 6: So a couple of quick things. I just want to
Speaker 6: throw the first one out. The best boycott I've ever
Speaker 6: seen was the market basket boycott. Yeah, same market that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6: It was amazing. It was for it was for the best, too, right,
Speaker 6: I mean it didn't go public. People still worked there.
Speaker 6: I remember mister Demols saying coming out there and saying,
Speaker 6: we're in we're in the people business. We just happened
Speaker 6: to sell groceries, which I thought was quite a statement.
Speaker 6: But the other thing too, is about this. Obviously, no
Speaker 6: one wants any damage and iything it's crazy, but it
Speaker 6: is working at Boycott on Tesla. There the stocks have
Speaker 6: gone from three ninety down to two forty right now.
Speaker 3: I talked about that.
Speaker 2: I talked about that last hour and obviously a lot
Speaker 2: of stocks that have taken a hit. How much of
Speaker 2: that is Tesla and how much of that is just
Speaker 2: what's what's hit the market?
Speaker 3: Will it configure that?
Speaker 6: I think the test one though, I guess there's a
Speaker 6: sixty or seventy percent drop in sales for Teslas in
Speaker 6: all of Europe, so that's a big part of it.
Speaker 6: And then trying to even here in the United States,
Speaker 6: I think they're down by forty percent. But anyway, a
Speaker 6: quick question for you, and I'm wondering this is a
Speaker 6: little bit of a conspiracy theory kind of thing here, Okay.
Speaker 6: It seems to me like it seems to me like,
Speaker 6: say you get rid of the Big three, right, because
Speaker 6: they're not going to be able to create thirty or
Speaker 6: forty billion dollars worth factories in the United States in
Speaker 6: the next month or even in the next five years
Speaker 6: or whatever, because it takes a lot of money from
Speaker 6: a company and profitability to be able to all of
Speaker 6: a sudden start rebuilding factories and train workers and all
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. That's the reason they're set up
Speaker 6: the way it is right now is because it took
Speaker 6: like forty years for that thing to set up the
Speaker 6: way it is. You can't do it in the month.
Speaker 6: What if those companies fail, what's going to be left
Speaker 6: for companies? It's going to be tesla. So in my opinion,
Speaker 6: I think that it's quite possible that this is an
Speaker 6: inside job and that this is another way from Mosque.
Speaker 6: Who knows, maybe you'll come up with just regular gasoline
Speaker 6: driven cars and everyone a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not buying that, because I got to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. No, I don't look there was I'm
Speaker 2: old enough to remember there was a period of time
Speaker 2: when American cars, American manufactured cars became too expensive and
Speaker 2: too unreliable, and a lot of these companies from around
Speaker 2: the world, Japanese cars, and I'm not a car expert,
Speaker 2: Japanese cars, German cars, Swedish cars came into the country
Speaker 2: and people said, hey, this is a great car, you know,
Speaker 2: And I've driven Volvos for a long time my next
Speaker 2: car will not be Evovo because I've lost.
Speaker 3: Faith in Vovo.
Speaker 2: But the market, the marketplace dictated that. And I think
Speaker 2: what will happen here is that that American company, a
Speaker 2: bunch of American companies went to Mexico, A bunch of
Speaker 2: American companies out of Detroit went went south.
Speaker 3: They wanted to avoid the union issues.
Speaker 2: And now you know, those companies are smart enough to
Speaker 2: pay their workers a decent wage. And I guess some
Speaker 2: unions have have gone into Southern states, some havened.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: I think eventually they'll just bring back cars to America.
Speaker 2: And just like we got to we got to bring
Speaker 2: back computer chips to America. That's the real danger if
Speaker 2: if all of a sudden, China takes over Taiwan, what
Speaker 2: are we going to do for computer chips, never mind cars?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, you're one hundred percent. I think that. That's
Speaker 6: why I think, though these there's better ways to try
Speaker 6: to get industry back into the United States than by
Speaker 6: by doing what what's going on right now, for example,
Speaker 6: that well.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if you've got a better way,
Speaker 2: hit me with an idea. Basically, what Trump is trying
Speaker 2: to do is saying, hey, we're going to hit you
Speaker 2: with tariffs if you're manufacturing cars outside of the country.
Speaker 2: Come on back inside the country and you'll be okay.
Speaker 2: He talked about the other day, and he made.
Speaker 3: A lot of sense. You know how many American pharmaceutical
Speaker 3: companies are now headquartered in Ireland.
Speaker 6: I love it because there's no because there's no taxes
Speaker 6: in Ireland. But how quickly can you get your again?
Speaker 6: You're gonna you need to have a full of income
Speaker 6: to come in for you to be able to invest
Speaker 6: reinvest in the United States. What do you do? You
Speaker 6: just PowerP the hell out of it. Put all these
Speaker 6: companies out of business because no one can afford to
Speaker 6: buy afford anymore. Because they're five to seven, eight, twelve,
Speaker 6: twenty thousand dollars more than they were. It doesn't make
Speaker 6: any sense. You got to do it in a smarter way.
Speaker 6: And the other thing too, is here, I'll give you
Speaker 6: all the way went out the way real quick, all right. Aluminium,
Speaker 6: aluminum and lumber.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: The reason that we get it from there is because
Speaker 6: it's cheaper, because they got a heckle a lot more
Speaker 6: of it. There's a lot more aluminum in Canada than
Speaker 6: there is here in the United States, and we use
Speaker 6: all of that stuff for cans and for metals and
Speaker 6: for you name it, right, and for housing and for
Speaker 6: things like that. So maybe if the if the terrafs
Speaker 6: were a little bit more targeted and a little less
Speaker 6: like it's kind of silly as they seem to be,
Speaker 6: because this is going to affect all the thick of
Speaker 6: all the building trades in this Country's.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to defend Trump, but Trump is targeting aluminum. Look,
Speaker 2: we've been doing aluminum.
Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense. That's where
Speaker 6: you get this.
Speaker 2: Well, if that's what's going to hurt Canada to get
Speaker 2: them to drop tariffs, that's the theory. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to defend the theory. Let me ask you this. I've
Speaker 2: been recycling cans for about forty years here in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: ever since the bottle bill came out. Do you know
Speaker 2: many times I have put a can to get you know,
Speaker 2: hitto the machine. Why Why is that aluminum here not
Speaker 2: being recycled? What's happening to that aluminum?
Speaker 6: Because aluminum is not just like it's gonna take more
Speaker 6: than just your lifetime with cans in mine.
Speaker 2: To be a wait a second, wait a second, wait,
Speaker 2: wait wait wait, let me finish, Nick, Let me finish Nick.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to fight here. I'm trying to make
Speaker 2: an argument to you, and that is this. When the
Speaker 2: bottle Bill passed in Massachusetts in nineteen eighty eight eighty seven,
Speaker 2: Lois Pine, Senator from Newton, was the big sponsor. I
Speaker 2: supported her. I did TV stories on it, explain to
Speaker 2: people that it's better to recycle cans, bear cans, pepsi cans,
Speaker 2: coke cans than seeing people throw them out on the
Speaker 2: side of the roads. I remember that there was litter
Speaker 2: everywhere in the nineteen eighties here in Massachusetts, and thank
Speaker 2: God for the bottle bill. But one of the selling
Speaker 2: points was not only will it won't cost you anything
Speaker 2: because you're paid a nickel for the can, and when
Speaker 2: you recycle it, you get it back, and that we
Speaker 2: then we're going to recycle the aluminum. We has that
Speaker 2: aluminum gone.
Speaker 6: Let's you know, well, there's not enough of it to
Speaker 6: be able to I mean there's there's just not enough
Speaker 6: cans made of aluminum to be able to cover all
Speaker 6: the stuff that aluminum is used for in an industry.
Speaker 6: So I mean, and the and the point of it
Speaker 6: is this. You get the tariffs a little backwards here.
Speaker 6: These tariffs were placed on us on Canada, and they
Speaker 6: are not a tax on Canada. They are a tax
Speaker 6: on American businesses. I know because I'm in I'm a
Speaker 6: buyer for a book business, and our company now is
Speaker 6: paying whatever twenty more per books that cannot be produced
Speaker 6: in the United States. They're too intricate to be produced here.
Speaker 6: They're like four they pulled out. They do all sorts
Speaker 6: of crazy stuff. They're beautiful books, you know, and they're
Speaker 6: not based. We're in this country, so you know, it
Speaker 6: has to be a little smarter than what's being done. Well, they're.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not a fan of tariffs, Nick, I want
Speaker 2: to see the tariffs used to get to a complete
Speaker 2: free trade situation. I'm somebody who wants free trade, but
Speaker 2: you have companies around the world that have hit us
Speaker 2: with tariffs. I'm not supporting Trump's policies here, but I
Speaker 2: do not want to take tariffs off the table.
Speaker 3: Nick. I hate to do this to you and I
Speaker 3: do have to run.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much, keep calling the show, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: Coming back on nightside, right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Rayline from the Window World Nightside
Speaker 1: Studios on w b Z the news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep rolling here, Gotta go to Rachel and Quincy.
Speaker 2: Rachel next on Nightside.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, by Dan.
Speaker 8: How are you good?
Speaker 3: Rachel? What's your what's your your conversation? What's your comment tonight?
Speaker 10: So I talked to Rob during I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 10: get on, you know, he said.
Speaker 9: No, Jackie can't because of Okay.
Speaker 6: A couple of things.
Speaker 9: I boycotted processed meats and I only ate foods that
Speaker 9: came from boor'shead.
Speaker 10: And then when Boyshead came out with that whole hysteria
Speaker 10: thing and la la la, I'm like, Okay.
Speaker 9: Where is the government coming in to make sure the
Speaker 9: area was clean?
Speaker 10: And the reason why lasteria came out is because it
Speaker 10: wasn't clean.
Speaker 9: That's number one. That's number one. The other thing that Dan,
Speaker 9: I would love if you could have some local farmers.
Speaker 10: On your show.
Speaker 9: The gentleman you had earlier talking about I didn't even
Speaker 9: understand half the words of you was saying about the
Speaker 9: importance of they don't need drones. They don't need they
Speaker 9: don't need drones. They don't need that was a.
Speaker 2: Fellow in the eight o'clock hour, Arthur Ericsson. Yep, I
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 9: Okay, so, and I know you and I have talked
Speaker 9: a little bit and William whatever. But I rescue horses.
Speaker 9: Where my horses are it's a farm, so there's sheeps,
Speaker 9: there's cows, there's chickens.
Speaker 3: Do me a favorite.
Speaker 2: If you have someone who you'd like to be in
Speaker 2: the show, give me a call during the day where
Speaker 2: I will give you my phone number and I'll talk
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 3: We'll see if we have someone to come on. Simple
Speaker 3: as that.
Speaker 9: Okay, No, it's very it's simple. But then you you
Speaker 9: get not simple.
Speaker 10: You know, it's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna do this,
Speaker 10: we do that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's do let's yeah, let's do this. Let's let's
Speaker 2: let's you and I talk about this off here because
Speaker 2: I'm going to lose my audience. We're talking about the
Speaker 2: subject of tonight.
Speaker 3: And so Rob will.
Speaker 2: Give you my direct line. Get me a call during
Speaker 2: the day and I will get back to you and
Speaker 2: we'll work out something. Okay, if that's what you want, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Sounds great.
Speaker 2: Rob, give a make sure you give Rachel my direct
Speaker 2: number during the day. Let's keep rolling here. We're going
Speaker 2: to go next to Glenn and brighton. Glenn, you were
Speaker 2: next on my second right ahead, Glenn.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this isn't what I call But I thought compute
Speaker 7: Silicon Valley was the computer chip mechro of the universe.
Speaker 3: It is Taiwan. Taiwan does all the chips.
Speaker 2: Uh, Silicon Valley, that's where they do the programming, that is,
Speaker 2: that's where they come up with the great ideas.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, for us to get enough to compewter chips,
Speaker 2: we got to hope that that would be if if
Speaker 2: China ever invaded Taiwan, we'd be in big, big trouble
Speaker 2: in terms of.
Speaker 7: And China knows that too. Yeah, that we'd be in trouble.
Speaker 3: You got it, You got it.
Speaker 7: Reason I call it. I told Rob, I've been boycotting
Speaker 7: since it began, cable TV and satellite radio because I
Speaker 7: don't believe in paying for radio or paying for television.
Speaker 7: Now I miss a lot of good stuff, obviously, stuff
Speaker 7: I would like, especially satellite radio. This seventies at seven
Speaker 7: and sixties and six yeah, okay, yeah, car and they
Speaker 7: put it on.
Speaker 3: Okay, you got nights side every night. So that's right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no problem. I know you called me today.
Speaker 2: I owe you a phone call back if you've gotten
Speaker 2: the information on the brunch.
Speaker 3: I hope you join us.
Speaker 7: I did. I got it from Ron about an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, good enough, okay, and then we'll see you in
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh.
Speaker 7: You know that's good for me. You know that's good
Speaker 7: for me. You know why. On April twenty seventh, twenty nineteen, Saturday,
Speaker 7: April twenty seven to five thirty pm, my loved one
Speaker 7: Shoe passed away from bone cancer. So this year instead
Speaker 7: of staying this year, instead of staying home and crying,
Speaker 7: I'm really sorry for myself. Oh hey, go with you?
Speaker 3: Sounds good? All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I gotta keep rolling. When to get
Speaker 2: one mind here before the break? Thanks Glenn, we'll talk later, okay,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 7: Thanks?
Speaker 2: All right, let me go to Theodore in Baltimore Theatre.
Speaker 2: We're tight on time, and I may be changing topics.
Speaker 2: I want to hear what you got to say. Go ahead, theatre.
Speaker 11: Well, no ant assets for you tonight, Dan, No ant assets.
Speaker 11: I'm listening to you. First of all, I think what
Speaker 11: Trump is doing without expounding on it because you don't
Speaker 11: have time. It's criminal, It's actually criminal. Many of those
Speaker 11: figures he puts up on that chart have been fat
Speaker 11: checked and they're false. And the shame of it is,
Speaker 11: if you're going to root out waste and fraud, you
Speaker 11: at least be truthful about the employees. That's why the
Speaker 11: judge today made Trump reinstate thousands of employees from several
Speaker 11: different agencies because they got good reports and they actually
Speaker 11: went to the judge and said they are not good
Speaker 11: employees when the performance reviews which the judge had showed
Speaker 11: that they were doing excellent work. And in reference to
Speaker 11: employees and unions and companies coming back over here, for
Speaker 11: the most part, almost one hundred percent of these companies
Speaker 11: simply are profit driven. Absolutely. They don't want to pay
Speaker 11: union fees, they don't want to pay for collective bargaining.
Speaker 11: And they usually when they say, well they are the
Speaker 11: job creators, they usually when they get their tax breaks,
Speaker 11: they cloud that money back into both is for the
Speaker 11: executives and they rebuy the stock of their companies. And
Speaker 11: in reference to the situation overall, Dan, I have very
Speaker 11: serious doubts as whether there would be another election, now
Speaker 11: you've heard that. I'm not the only one to think that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going down at ten fifty eight. I'm
Speaker 2: not going down that. Okay, that rabbit hole. If that's
Speaker 2: what you fear, make sure you talk about it. Call
Speaker 2: me some other night. I'll convince you to the contrary.
Speaker 2: But that's neither here to there. In terms of companies,
Speaker 2: companies are funded primarily by investors. Investors expect to get
Speaker 2: their money back. Corporations employ a hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of people in this country, Theodore. I've worked for corporations
Speaker 2: my entire life. If I hadn't worked for corporations, I
Speaker 2: don't know what I would have done. I've worked in
Speaker 2: the broadcast industry and all of those companies. A lot
Speaker 2: of those companies are going out of business, okay, because
Speaker 2: the newspapers are going out of business, because people lives
Speaker 2: are changing here. It's you know, capitalism works, Uh, that
Speaker 2: is true.
Speaker 11: And when and when you when we do have this
Speaker 11: conversation with more time, where you can convince me the opposite,
Speaker 11: I will be coming to the court with the radio court,
Speaker 11: with a bevy of bevy of lawyers.
Speaker 3: How's that Okay? Good enough? Sounds good?
Speaker 2: Sounds good to have a great mine. Good night, Here
Speaker 2: comes the eleven. I'd like to stay with this if
Speaker 2: you want to light the phones up. If not, we'll
Speaker 2: change topics. Coming back after this one night sight