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Speaker 2: He's brob me so much.

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Speaker 3: John and the music kick butt like nothing today. Say

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the world went insane, But that's when sure the Chan

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and jee be joy in that same all the way.

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Speaker 4: Say there's a time scene, say we won't cross the streets.

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Surely this can be the best there is, Say youmor

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rocket queen, I'm a back a cass the recting scene.

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Surely you can you Can't Be Serious?

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Sureley you Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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I am not de Graves or Jason Colvin. I'm Jeff Johnson,

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and you may have heard me once or twice or

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six times on the show. I get to be a

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part of the What the Heck Happened? Series, and when

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I'm not taking care of the film by podcast, I

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am an avid listener, a Patreon supporter, and a huge

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fan of the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast. So, guys,

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first off, thank you for giving me this opportunity for

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this very special episode, because it's something I've been hoping

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we would get at some point, you know, a little

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peak behind the curtain at the Shirley You Can't Be

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Serious Podcasts. I kind of want to dig dig in,

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and I want to ask you some some questions about

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how this show makes it to us week in and

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week out.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, thanks for doing that for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking and Jason had told me that

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remember who it was, that maybe you had talked to

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about people like a little behind the scenes peak of things,

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and I was like, well, yeah, that's what we do, Like,

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that's our whole stick is we give every behind the

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scenes story of interest that we can on all these albums.

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Why wouldn't we do it for our own podcast?

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Speaker 1: I guess so well, Yeah, I just I love the

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behind the scenes featurettes, the audio commentaries, and you guys

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do such an amazing job giving us the details on

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some of our our all time favorite movies, are all

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time favorite albums, and I thought, well, I want to

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behind the scenes featurette on the sureley you can't be

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serious podcasts. So I appreciate you guys taking the time

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to to answer some questions that I feel, I know

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I'm curious about, and I think a lot of your

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listeners would also be curious about.

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Speaker 5: Jeff And as you can see, youre so d.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving that ball cap. As you can see, hey,

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I'm I'm a supporter. I've got my Surely you Can't

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Be Serious Tumblr. I've got my Shirley you Can't Be

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Serious t shirt which just fits perfect. Thank you look

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great on you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: There should be our model for the for the merch page.

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Speaker 1: Man, I might have to everybody. I told Jason when

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I when I pulled it up out of the out

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of the mail, I said, the blue, the red, like

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the color schemes. I just feel like the Man of Steel.

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It makes me believe I can fly. So thank you

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Speaker 2: Jeff is nowsing the Zuperkiss ladies. It's available upon request.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into this guys. Now, For someone that

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hasn't listened to the Surely you Can't Be Serious podcast,

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how would you describe the show or better yet, entice

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someone to become a new follower.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've always kind of said that our podcast is

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a podcast for the MTV generation. So there's a period

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of time from about nineteen eighty one until about the

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two thousand mark probably where we as a culture shared

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so many common experiences movies, pop culture moments, albums, music videos,

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and we like to celebrate those moments. We celebrate that

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we do it political free, and we do it with

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just a lot of fun. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the best way to put

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it is, we're like having a conversation with your good

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friends about the things that you love the most.

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Speaker 1: I like that you say that. D The banter between

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you to I think is one of the highlights of

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this show. Where does that chemistry come from?

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Speaker 5: This goes back to kind of the origin of everything.

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started running together and I'd never run more than three

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only to run, but found a hill for us to

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run up, and I kept telling him I was not

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afraid to quit, and we just talked. You know, it

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was just like guys talk, but like we're running on

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a sparkle moment was until like ten years later, was

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that he would say something. You know, I would say

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something about Thriller being the best album of all time,

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and he would say, well, you know everybody thinks that,

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but Bad was actually a better album.

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Speaker 5: It was like, you're crazy, dude, And and we had

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that would pop up and then life goes on. Ten

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years later, I've moved out of the neighborhood, but we're

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still very good friends. And he called me up and said, uh, well,

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I'm thinking about doing a podcast. Which I had talked

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to him about this already because I had gotten a

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microphone thinking I'm going to do a podcast too, just

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trying to figure out what it was going to be about.

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a podcast? This is going to hit home for you, Jeff,

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do you think people would listen to a podcast about Frasier?

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Speaker 5: So I so I said, you know, if you did

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a podcast about Cheers. I mean, that's an iconic series

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of the eighties. That's something that I absolutely think, even

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though it's been you know, not running for years and years,

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that people would totally tune in for that. And he said, well,

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I kind of think that Fraser is actually better than Cheers,

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and I was like crazy. And then ten minutes after

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we hung up the phone and I called him back

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and I said, why don't we do a podcast together

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where we do something like this, where we take something

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that you think is better than something that I think

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is obviously better, and we just make the podcast about that.

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and he was going to defend his side the whole time.

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of those conversations like we had when we were running,

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where we would just kind of nerd out and go, hey,

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did you know about this? And the other guy would

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of trying to wow the other guy with this new

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piece of information that we had, and I think everybody

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else seemed to kind of enjoy that as well, just like, Hey,

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about these stories behind it. And that's we've just it's

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been a joy to try to learn these things and

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then share that with everybody else.

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Speaker 2: By the way, before you started, Jeff, my good friend

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and yours too, Jeff Johnson made a good point. He

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brought this up to me No. Two three weeks ago.

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your very first like the trailer episode. Oh yeah, like

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before we started the podcast and were putting out those previews,

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and he's like, you've done everything that you teased up

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in that trailer except for one matchup?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Fraser and Frasier and Cheers is the one that we

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Speaker 5: We have yet to put a TV show against a

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TV show And yeah, it's always just been out there

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hovering out there like that. It's a hard one.

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Speaker 1: A movie versus movie, album versus album, but we've never

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had the TV show versus TV show. And this is

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the origin of the show that you can't be serious.

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I for one would love to hear it, because, uh,

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I'm a big Fraser fan, but I don't know that

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I'm gonna be a team Fraser when it's all said

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and done. Has Di has won me over many times already? Well,

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this happens every time we do this. Sometimes though he's

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made I told you recently, you guys did last season.

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and Jason, I think I told you I was devastated

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because d won me over to his way of thinking.

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I went home, I watched Sanamos fired. I was like,

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oh my god, He's right. It just broke. It just

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broke me, man, And so you never know where you're

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gonna land. I love that about what you guys do.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you that we deliberately do our best

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about every single day, and we kind of slipped a

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of whoever or whatever you know, But honestly, most of

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our research. We do a lot of reading and studying,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so, uh, you know you got you. You

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mentioned the friendship a little bit here across social media.

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I'm talking YouTube and your Patreon page. You guys have

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many of them have connected with each other. Uh. How

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do you feel about that? Was that always the intention?

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guy is like, oh, these are my brothers. Man, I

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couldn't have done without my team. You know, we've we've

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overcome adversity and we don't know these things. And this

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coach has been the best leader I've ever had, and

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just you know, it's always about the other and it's

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but nobody says that in this particular circumstance. I mean, yeah,

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we put in a lot of hard work. But man,

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we couldn't. I could not have possibly imagined when we

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close friends, that we would have this opportunity that we

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contact us from all over the world. We've got we've

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sure everybody says about their fans, but I mean it's true.

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a part of all this stuff, and you know, we've

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met people from all over the place and and become

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friends with them. We've gotten to meet people that that

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I looked up to, John Reid and Pat Cannagallo and

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Jeff Mazuka and those guys over at the thirty Sething

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been in the room with Pat or Jeff yet, but

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weekend and you have to so we got to meet

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the people who helped us, influenced us. And then we've

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who we've kind of been a part of their origin story,

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show until you guys came into our life and just

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just the fact that you opened up and said, hey,

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let us help. And by the way, you know you

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we're cool. You're cool. Let's let's let's make something of this. Yeah,

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you definitely we the film by podcast. It was a

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lot to both of you for for helping launch us

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and get us where we're at. So I can't think enough.

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I'm everything. And to D's point, it's it's it's always

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great when that when you get that kind of success,

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friendships that have happened here, Like you know we've we're

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kind of talking about hanging out that you know, Shirley

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agree on politics, religion, schooling, how to raise your kids,

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but you can start a conversation on whether bad is

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better than thriller or thriller is better than bad, and

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people from around the world have opinions and are ready

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to talk about it. And I think it's one of

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of our generation, is this ship experience that we could

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all talk about, hang out, celebrate and have fun with.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jason, you you talked about the research a few

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minutes ago, and while you both seem to be subject

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matter experts on music and movies from the eighties and nineties,

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I imagine the research a lot. There's a lot that goes

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into each episode. Can you walk us through your your

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show works. I think is because he cares about things

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that are not as important to me, and I care

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about things that aren't as important to him. And when

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we put them together, it's kind of the chocolate and

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peanut butter thing. But yeah, there's there's a lot of reading.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I've I've changed a lot over the last

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seven years. I spent a lot more time doing the research.

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you and what's not. And so, you know, when we

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first started doing this, I would probably I would spend

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ten hours of research per episode, and then I would

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go and I was I was editing all of the

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episodes to begin with, and I'd spend another ten hours

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doing that. Now, fortunately Jason has taken over the editing process,

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and you know, he's become incredibly good at that and

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make it. It's much faster for him than it was. I'm

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sure when he first started doing it as well. But

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now I've got it down to maybe half that. You know,

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class We actually actually actually got to go talk to

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my son's high school class about podcasting because they had

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a podcasting project. And that was one of the questions

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of how much you know, how much time do you

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have to prepare for an hour long episode? And I

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was like, well, I'm going to spend four hours and

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at this point four to five hours doing research. He's

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going to spend four to five hours doing editing. So

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Speaker 1: Okay, aside from the editing, has anything over the years,

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has anything else is kind of kind of change in

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your process? How you go about it?

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Speaker 2: Jason, Well, we finally found a home. Like we record

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in my upstairs bonus room. Now, as you can see,

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we've got the Shirley wall.

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at home and they were loud and rambunctious, and I

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had a barking dog and all that other stuff. And

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now you know, we used to move. We've done it

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at your office, We've done it at my church. We

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a private room at the law school because I was

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able to get that because I knew that would be

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I knew that would be a place that would be quiet,

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be quiet. So we did a handful of shows at

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the law school. Then we found the church. Jason's church

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had a fantastic room. Then that went under construction, and

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so we had to find a new place. I had

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an office that we went to recorded a whole bunch

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of episodes down there, and then things happened and we

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ended up over here, and here's been great. We had

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no idea that the whole time this upstairs room would

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Speaker 1: Now, looking back over the last year, and I know

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you guys might have different opinions here, but looking back

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of the last year, which episode do you both feel

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best represents what the podcast has become? And more importantly why.

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Speaker 5: We haven't actually talked about it to see if we agree.

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agrees with me. I for last year, last season, I

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would say to a definitive pair of episodes for us

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and what we've become now is going it's going to

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be the Eagles' greatest hits versus Jimmy Buffett. I don't

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know if that's thought or not, but you have two

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absolute powerhouses. We had great stories on all of the

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guys involved in those things, and we also had a

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lot of fun with it. You know, we dressed up

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in Wholewaiian shirts and had mocktail margeritas while we talked

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about Jimmy Buffett an ative cheeseburger, you know, in Paradise

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because that's where it was. But uh, and the Eagles one.

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The Eagles one has been absolutely the biggest hit of

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last year, like as far as downloads go, and Away

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earn away the best biggest hit.

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Speaker 2: So I agree. I think that's our best matchup of

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the of the year. And it was in the middle

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of summer, and the Hawaiian shirts were fun and the

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got we got the fancy drink cups and you know,

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we had the little umbrellas and that was to me,

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if you're going to listen to one set of episodes

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from last season, that's the one I would recommend to somebody.

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H But maybe the one I'm most proud of that

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is kind of maybe off the beaten track a little bit.

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I had one episode in particular that I kind of

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edited with my dad in mind, okay, because we covered Chicago,

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and Chicago has been around long enough that he was

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a fan and they drifted into the MTV generation and

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I picked up on him on the seventeenth album, right

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Chicago seventeen. And so when we did that, man, I

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needle dropped a whole bunch of early stuff because I

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knew he would be listening and I wanted him to

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enjoy it. And it was a great It was a

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fun episode. So, by the way.

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Speaker 1: That was a great episode. I love that one.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: There is one set of episodes and I told thee

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this maybe six months ago. That doesn't get a lot

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of downloads, and it wasn't from the season, but I

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think Dee and I were like on point. It was

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maybe our most fun conversation we did any which way

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you can, versus every which way but loose a couple

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of seasons ago. Yes, we we cracked up. We laughed.

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We had a ball doing that and we talked, you know,

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talking about monkeys flipping off cops.

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Speaker 5: And and that one, I mean, to Jason's point, that

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was the one I had my dad in mind because

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he loved, loved Clint Eastwood love those movies. I can

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remember watching them all the time with him when I

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was a little kid. And I think, I mean, it's

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been a little while since I've looked at them downloads,

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but I think that those are actually kind of maybe

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an underground, little cult thing because they are they are

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getting quite a bit of traction. It's just they they

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just kind of it's not something that you know, it's

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just out there, but they are still people are tuning in.

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I don't know. I doubt, I doubt there are a

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whole lot of other podcasts that have covered those movies.

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I covered Gremlins and Ghostbusters, but how many people have

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covered any which way but loose and every which way

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you can?

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Speaker 1: I remember, right, I got well, I remember Jason, like

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I remember I specifically remember us talking uh and it

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was you know, hey, what do you got coming up?

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be a big hit, but you know, Clint eas Wood,

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we're doing this double feature and I was like, any

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which way, but yeah, You're like, yeah, you've seen us,

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Like I've got the two pac It's back here. You

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can see it behind me on this ball of DVDs

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and Blu rays. I've got it. I was like, I

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can't wait. I'm ready for the right time with Clyde. So, listeners,

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if you have not listened to that one, that is

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an absolute fun one. And you guys were in rere

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form I think again, we talk about the chemistry between

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the two of you, and yeah, you were having a ton.

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Speaker 5: Of fun on that.

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Speaker 1: So I love that episode.

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Speaker 1: Know, and we speaking of movies, movies like that. You know,

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you guys, you cover content that boasts a lot of

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eighties and nineties nostalgia. Why do you think movies and

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music of these two decades still connect so strongly with

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today's listeners.

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Speaker 5: I don't know really how to answer that question. The

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guys that are listening to podcasts grew up with those movies.

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That's that's kind of a key factor there, right, the

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gen X guys who are in the somewhere in between,

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you know, thirty five and fifty five, this is what

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we grew up with, right, And so there's that factor.

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There are still good movies that get made, but not

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nearly as many. I mean, it doesn't. It's not. It

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doesn't take a cinematic expert to go and look at

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one summer any pick any summer of the nineteen eighties

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and compare it to a whole year of any year

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of the twenty first century, and you're gonna go, why

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are there so many great movies in one summer that

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are more than there are in the whole year for

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the twenty first century. It's just, I mean, things changed

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in the in the studio world, things changed in the

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production world. There was there was a transition that occurred

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at that time that was just a magic moment. And

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my kids will even say it. They're like, Dad, you're

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born in nineteen seventy five. I was like yeah. They're like,

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you got to be a kid during the eighties and

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I was like yeah. And they're like, you got to

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be a teenager during the nineties and I was like yeah.

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or cameras or anything like that going on, and I

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was like no. And they're like, and you.

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you wanted to do. And I was like yeah, pretty much.

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up then I'm like, yeah, you do. It's pretty awesome.

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I wouldn't trade places with any of those folks. You know.

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we all listened to a common radio station, if you will, TV, right,

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MTV was our radio station for kids across America, and

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it was this That's how we learned our musical taste

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00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,599
and that's why we all share a common experience.

476
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's true. And the movies that

477
00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:37,759
you saw were the movies that would fit into the theater.

478
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,240
You didn't have hundreds and hundreds of things to choose

479
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,519
from from dozens and dozens of streaming services. You didn't.

480
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,400
You didn't have that option. Everybody like HiT's the commonality,

481
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,160
that's right. Everybody was listening to the same stuff. Everybody

482
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,680
was watching the same stuff, and most people were going

483
00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:01,240
like going to the same concerts or going to the

484
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:03,720
same places to hang out. Everybody had a mall to

485
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,440
go to, everybody had a video arcade that they wanted

486
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,319
to go hang out at, and just none of that

487
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,640
exists like it did.

488
00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: Or a combination of like you watched Pour Some Sugar

489
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,279
on Me on MTV before you jumped on your Hoffey bike,

490
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,640
rode it to the mall, played the arcade, watched Roadhouse,

491
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:25,200
and then rode home. You know, I mean it was

492
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,160
That's just what a summer day was, you know.

493
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: You know, as long as the porch light has not

494
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,599
come on yet, you're free to roam and get into adventures.

495
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,759
Speaker 5: Right, that's right, that's right now.

496
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like the making of the shure

497
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:39,680
that you can't be serious podcast. We're behind the we're

498
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,960
behind the scenes here. So I got to ask. I

499
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,839
got to ask questions like this, let's talk about off Mike.

500
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Have there ever been moments off Mike, be it during

501
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,799
research or maybe you're recording or you're about to record

502
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,839
where either one of you, like completely changed your opinion

503
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:58,559
about a movie or an artist.

504
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

505
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was off Mike, but for sure.

506
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,599
Speaker 5: Yeah it was, it was. It was on Mike for

507
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,680
me because I mean, that's kind of the beauty of

508
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,279
what we're doing. Because a lot of these a lot

509
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:11,799
of these albums, I would say, probably more so for

510
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,359
me I've never listened to the whole album before. I

511
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,200
wasn't a guy who went out and bought albums. Most

512
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,599
of the time I was listening to singles. I was

513
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,200
listening to what was on the radio. I was listening

514
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,759
to what was on MTV. And so, I mean, the

515
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:27,000
thing that springs to mind for me. God bless Amanda Janic.

516
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,880
She called us out to do the cure, and I,

517
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,240
for the last thirty years had said I freaking hate

518
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,839
the Cure. I don't want to listen to any of

519
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,640
their music. I can't stand it. But she was so

520
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,200
incredibly persuasive in her plea for us to cover it

521
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359
that I was like, Okay, well let's do it. And

522
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,279
I mean, I put the I put the album on.

523
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,680
Listen to the first thirty seconds of the first song.

524
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:53,640
I push pause. I called Jason, I'm like, holy cow,

525
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,759
this is really good. Like I was like, what the heck? Like,

526
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,039
how come I haven't heard of this stuff? And it

527
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:01,440
was it goes back to that all I had heard

528
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,200
were they're popular songs, which I still don't care for

529
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:08,240
that much, but you go to their album tracks and

530
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,279
it's incredible. So I went from I can't stand the

531
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:15,079
cure to. I listened to them regularly.

532
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: Now, I mean as a listener, I gotta be honest,

533
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,440
like one of the things that is magical for me.

534
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,160
You guys will hint it like hey, next next week,

535
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,359
this is what we're doing, and I'll be like, well,

536
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,400
let's it's not even a fair fight, like I'm not

537
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,720
gonna that band. I've never liked that band, or I've

538
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,440
never liked that movie. But then you guys start talking.

539
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,000
You know, I'll point out last season you had the

540
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,960
the Alantis Morrisse set versus Jewel versus No Doubt, the

541
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,720
three way match up there, and I was like, there's

542
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440
I mean, yeah, No Doubt was amazing, is amazing, and

543
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:50,440
Atlantis that's what that album's iconic. But Jewel doesn't have

544
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,039
a chance. And then they listen to d just speak

545
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,119
about her, her, the songs and the music so passionately.

546
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,240
I was like, hold on, and you know, I hit

547
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,200
pause because sometimes I'll do this. I imagine a lot

548
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,599
of people do this with your show. I love what

549
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359
they're saying, but I got to hit pause because I

550
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,759
now I want to hear the song or I want

551
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:13,359
to hear the album, and I by gum I turned

552
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440
it on, I was like, this is incredible music. I

553
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:17,200
was there. I don't know why I was not paying

554
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,759
attention to Jewel when this happened. So, you know, you guys,

555
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,880
you do a great job of moving the needle, as

556
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,319
you say Jason, like, hey, if we can move the

557
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,720
needle for someone, we've done our job. And I think

558
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:31,359
you guys do that a lot. But I'm curious when

559
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,319
you take into consideration all the final judgments, all the

560
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:38,920
spiking of the footballs as it were, that you've delivered,

561
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:43,640
have you ever looked back and said, hmm, I got

562
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,240
that one wrong.

563
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: For me, it goes back to which matchup was the closest, okay,

564
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:53,559
And so if it's if it's fifty fifty or fifty

565
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,880
one forty nine, you know I could go either way then.

566
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680
So the one that comes to mind for me is

567
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,559
the George Michael Faith versus an Excess Kick album, where

568
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,720
both of those were such powerhouses for eighty seven. Both

569
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:10,680
are packed with hits, both very impactful special albums. To me,

570
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,880
I loved both. It was about equal, and I think

571
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,720
I could probably go either way. You know, you were

572
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:20,200
asking what album maybe moved the needl the most for

573
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:26,359
me over the years was probably Synchronicity. We started out

574
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,640
with Synchronicity. I had not a lot of interest in it.

575
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,559
It's kind of dry, dusty music to me.

576
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 5: I can remember having the conversation. I was sitting in

577
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,400
a school gym watching my kid play basketball, and he

578
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,599
brought up Journey and I was like, oh, this is

579
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,359
when the Police Synchronicity came out. And he's like, that's

580
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:47,279
not even a fair competition. I was like, are you

581
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,920
saying you like the Police better? And he's like, no,

582
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,440
they're not. It's terrible. And I'm like, oh, we have

583
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:52,880
to do that.

584
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to. In fact, I'm really I'm kind

585
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,000
of anxious to do Ghosts in the Machine to go

586
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:02,240
through it, you know, to make myself come through. And

587
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:07,000
also when we did Nickelback, I love that well in

588
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,240
love with Nickelback.

589
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see the shirt right.

590
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:16,559
Speaker 2: I am officially the Norman, Oklahoma President of the Nickelback

591
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,079
Fan Club. After going through their their heads, I mean,

592
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:21,480
they're so freaking good.

593
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I.

594
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,359
Speaker 1: Imagine chat Gregor's appreciates that. Absolutely.

595
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Chad call in the podcast, I gladly take your phone call.

596
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I gotta tell you since we're talking about moving

597
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,960
the needle. I just never imagined ever that I would say, Yes,

598
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:46,640
I am a proud listener and fan of Christopher Cross.

599
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,079
Like the fact that you guys did that to me

600
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:54,200
because you was like, listen, I'm not trying to I'm

601
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,559
not trying to tell you your business, but no one

602
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,960
cares about this music. Indeed, was like you, But then

603
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
I listened to I'm like, have I been a Christopher

604
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Cross fan my whole life and just not realized it?

605
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,279
So I owe that to you guys. You know, you

606
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,000
know I listened to him because of this show, because

607
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,640
of what you guys did.

608
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: Jeff is out of the Christopher closet.

609
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,119
Speaker 2: Yes, hey, we put that matchup out to our Patreon episode,

610
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,279
so you know, listen, if you're not a Patreon member,

611
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,000
you ought to go to our Patreon page join up

612
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,279
on our Patreon because you do have a say in

613
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:27,519
future matchups.

614
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: Yea.

615
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,279
Speaker 2: When we put that out there, I thought for sure

616
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,079
that would finish Dead Last and it didn't.

617
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: Oh.

618
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: I voted in that. Like I said, I'm a Patreon subscriber,

619
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,799
and I remember that. I was like, what are they thinking? Like,

620
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,359
no one wants to listen to that, and I had

621
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,359
a couple other Patreon members in the family going, hey,

622
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680
hold on, guy, you don't know and I was like, oh,

623
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,559
I'm thinking, okay, well they'll see. And I guess what,

624
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,559
I was the one that was wrong because Christopher Cross

625
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960
is great, Like I just never imagine.

626
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: I'd say that. Yeah. So he's playing at the end

627
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480
of this month and Jason's like, we should go see him.

628
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,119
I'm like, all right, let's make it happen. And he's

629
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,680
like sold out, sold out.

630
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Oh see that you guys, uh, you went on a

631
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,559
little adventure what was it last last summer to see Creed. Yeah,

632
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,599
And just I loved that episode because it was it

633
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,079
was like a fun anecdote like you because you guys

634
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,599
you did. It wasn't like you just got in the

635
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,240
car and went to the concert. There was a little

636
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,119
bit of a a misadventure, you know, getting there, and

637
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:25,640
I don't know, I don't spoil that. I laughed hysterically

638
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,240
the whole time. I was like, I wish I was

639
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,680
there with these guys at the pizza place and and

640
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:31,920
through the rain and you know in the show, like

641
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:34,119
it's just it's fun. I would love for you guys

642
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,319
to do more concerts, go to more concerts, or go

643
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,480
to more movies, and then give us that whole the

644
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,880
surely reaction to how was it? How was the show?

645
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:42,720
You guys were awesome in that episode.

646
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,839
Speaker 2: I've got a shout that we've got plans maybe to

647
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,160
go to Chicago this spring summer, do some sight visit,

648
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,039
do the the John Hughes Johnny's tour.

649
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll tell you this before we before we

650
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,599
get off that Creed concert. Just deciding to do that

651
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:01,799
was wonderful. It was just happenstance that we decided because

652
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,400
we kind of we decided to do that matchup before

653
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Creed got back together and started touring again. And the

654
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,119
fact that happened, I was just like, well, good, this

655
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,680
is this is going to do well for the show.

656
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,119
And then the first the first show of that tour

657
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,440
was the show we went to see. Yeah, it's the kickoff,

658
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:23,440
and I was I was fantastically entertained by Creed. But

659
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,960
just that that got us to see Three Doors Down,

660
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200
who opened for them, and I got to see Brad Arnold,

661
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,599
and I feel like, even though I was a million

662
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:35,359
miles away from him, got to know him on a

663
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,559
personal level, because that was the way that he talked

664
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,240
to the audience. It was like he was your friend

665
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:47,119
and getting to getting to experience that, not knowing what

666
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,319
he was going through at the time, heard about what

667
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,839
he was going through later on, I was like, oh, no,

668
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,079
I genuinely hope that because he was such a genuine

669
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:02,079
and kind and faithful guy, I mean, inspiration, inspirational and

670
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,160
too yeah for him to have left. I mean he's singing,

671
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:08,880
he's singing a better song right now. But but it

672
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,680
was I'm so glad that we just happened upon that

673
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:13,759
kind of ye meeting. Yeah.

674
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,319
Speaker 1: One of the most memorable moments in any concert I've

675
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,359
ever been to was something he did during the concert

676
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,400
when I saw three doors down. I think my second

677
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,519
time just I love that you guys got that that opportunity.

678
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: But wait, let me talk, wait, hold on, hold on.

679
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,079
I want to know if you think you got anything

680
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,440
wrong or what move what needle move for you?

681
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, d any anytime where you anything,

682
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240
you can look back and going it might maybe I.

683
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: Got where I got it wrong. No, I'm always right.

684
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,839
Camp can't be right and then wrong later that doesn't

685
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:51,279
You're right.

686
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:54,559
Speaker 2: Right, I think he likes bad better than thriller personally

687
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,599
after all these years, like you the flips.

688
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: Knock listen, I'm I'm I'm a d on this one. Thriller.

689
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,519
Speaker 5: I mean, as far as I will tell you, this

690
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,079
was the one. I will tell you this as far

691
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,519
as matchups go. I can remember on those early episodes

692
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,119
when we were going to compare Hysteria with Pyromania, that

693
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,880
I was like, well, I don't care about Pyromania. It's

694
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,480
obviously going to be hysteria for me. And then I

695
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,440
you know, I was like, okay, listen to this. It

696
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,360
was kind of like the concert.

697
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:22,519
Speaker 3: You know.

698
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,159
Speaker 5: We did the concert like we were in high school.

699
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,960
We went to had pizza, we went and played video games,

700
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,679
and then we went to The show Man and it

701
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,079
was it was even if that was rain, it was awesome,

702
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,480
right yeah, And so I for when we did the

703
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:36,239
Pyramanea Hysteria, I was like, Okay, I'm going to pretend

704
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480
like I just bought this album, put my big headphones

705
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,920
on over my ears, crank it up, it blew it

706
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
out of the water. Pyromania Blue Hysteria out of the

707
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:46,320
water for me, and I was just like, Wow, I

708
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,679
had no idea. So that was something that I had

709
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,000
made a decision beforehand, but I still my final judgment.

710
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,840
Still it was still Pyromania, And I don't think I

711
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,159
would change my mind on anything that I picked. The

712
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,960
great thing is the great thing is this we pick winner.

713
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,679
I mean, there have been a couple of genuine landslides

714
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,079
that we've had. I would say groundog Day versus Multiplicity,

715
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:10,079
and that was just a matchup because of other factors,

716
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,559
not because they're both winning movies. But in almost all circumstances,

717
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,119
you're not gonna go wrong picking either one of these things.

718
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:20,039
I mean, I'll say that Jason's wrong when he picks

719
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,800
one is better that I think is not. But but

720
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960
I mean there we picked. We pick good movies, we

721
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,079
pick good albums.

722
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: D Blue the the Rambo Summer matchup. Though, I'll tell

723
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,679
you that I was shocked.

724
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest shock I've ever had, and

725
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,039
I was so excited. I was like, he's never seen

726
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,599
First Blood or Rambo two. He's gonna lose his mind.

727
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:45,159
And you know you can't like. I love that you

728
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,639
dropped in on the on the episode. You got the

729
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,400
you got the camp, you got the headband. I was like, Oh,

730
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,519
it's a slam dunk. He's gonna he's a big Rambo fan.

731
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:55,920
And I just I was shocked. I was absolutely shocked.

732
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 5: I was to you guys. Got to know, like when

733
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,320
chopping at Dollar General in gold to Be, Oklahoma last

734
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,519
month and this kid at the register who looked like

735
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,360
he was maybe nineteen, maybe twenty, It is like, anybody

736
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,039
ever told you you look like the Tulsking guy? And

737
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,719
I was like, only for about the last forty two

738
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,400
years that I was surprised that I was a movie

739
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
over a sly movie. But that was a no brainer,

740
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
that was an easy Yeah, Okay, he.

741
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:26,079
Speaker 2: Missed the moment better.

742
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten year old D, I think has a different opinion.

743
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,199
If he sees it, then I really do.

744
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,639
Speaker 5: But now ten year old D doesn't know what the

745
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:36,440
heck he's talking about.

746
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:43,559
Speaker 1: That's As of this year, there are now over four

747
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,519
and a half million registered podcasts, with only an estimated

748
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,719
four hundred thousand actively producing new content. Can you share

749
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,039
something about what it takes to create and run a

750
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,679
successful podcast that listeners would probably never guess unless they

751
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:02,119
tried to do it themselves. Because everyone thinks they can

752
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:04,280
do it until you try to do it. What's something

753
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,320
that you guys can give us, like, like, hey, this

754
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,320
is what you better think about before you start.

755
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: So I just looked at list of notes earlier this week.

756
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,679
We're in the top one percent of those four and

757
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,000
a half million podcasts, which means we're in the same

758
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:21,360
category with forty five thousand other podcasts, which doesn't sound

759
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,599
so impressive. But the answer to your question, as far

760
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:29,400
as I'm concerned, we got blessed. We just what I

761
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,480
wanted to do before we even knew that this was

762
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:33,519
going to be a thing, was I was like, I

763
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,440
want to do something with somebody that I genuinely enjoy

764
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,559
being around and enjoy talking to. And the first guy

765
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:41,760
that popped in my head was Jason Colvin. And so

766
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,280
I was like, Okay, how do I find something Like

767
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,639
I was thinking job stuff, you know, like some business

768
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,360
enterprise something. How do I do something with Jason Colvin

769
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,800
that maybe as successful as a business. And that was

770
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,719
the only factor. I just want to do something with

771
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Jason Colvin. That was it. And that's all that I

772
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,119
can say we had going for us, Like everything else

773
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,639
is just just blessed, just dumb luck, just sunshining on

774
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,400
the dog's butt. You know, it's just not anything that

775
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,440
we necessarily did by design, but just we like being

776
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,679
around each other. I think a few people in the

777
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,639
world that I'd rather be around than this guy. We

778
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
love talking to each other. We've been doing it for

779
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:30,159
seven years on the air, and like seventeen years total,

780
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,599
and I still ain't tired of it yet. So, I mean,

781
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,000
that's so if you want, if you if you want

782
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,719
the magic formula, find somebody you love being around and

783
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,079
talking to and do something with them. Whether it's a

784
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,679
podcast or eliminade. Stand, it doesn't matter. You know, if

785
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,679
you're doing something with somebody that you truly love being

786
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,800
around and love talking to, it'll be successful in the

787
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,519
matter how many people listen to it.

788
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Personally, thank you very much. That makes me feel very special.

789
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
And I love hanging out with you. I mean, I

790
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:04,000
love you.

791
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,559
Speaker 5: I love you, bro, I love you man.

792
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,519
Speaker 2: But I do I do agree with you that that

793
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:15,079
is kind of our secret sauce. There are other movie

794
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:18,079
experts out there that I could call and you know,

795
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,199
somebody in another state and say, hey, you like movies,

796
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,760
I like movies. Listen to a podcast together. It's not

797
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,679
going to be It's not going to be what we

798
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,199
do because we like hanging out, we like having fun,

799
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,280
we like doing stuff, and this is stuff we're going

800
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,119
to talk about anyway.

801
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,639
Speaker 5: So, yeah, seventeen years, I can't think of one angry

802
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,360
word that I've said to this guy or that he

803
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,519
said to me. And we obviously have been doing a

804
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:42,719
lot of stuff together for a lot.

805
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,559
Speaker 1: That's special. Yeah, but surely you can't be serious. Podcasts

806
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,960
has celebrated some big milestones and substantial audience growth. Is

807
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,760
there something you're particularly proud of.

808
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: The thing I'm most proud of is the community that

809
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:04,639
we've been able to create. I mean, I think our

810
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:08,000
show's good. I'm proud of that. I'm proud of what

811
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:12,119
we do and what we put out. I'm proud of

812
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,320
the work that we've put in, the hours that we've done.

813
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,760
You know, our growth has been rewarding, but for me,

814
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,000
it's the friends that we've made in the community that

815
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:24,559
we've grown so and that was totally a bonus, like

816
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,159
a bonus baby. We had no intention and.

817
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: It just happened. So, you know, I don't think anyone says, hey,

818
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,920
we're gonna we're gonna create this show because we want

819
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,360
to we want new friends, we want to build our friendships.

820
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 5: You know.

821
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,199
Speaker 1: Up it's it's like it's a it's a happy return

822
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,559
on the investment, I think.

823
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, if you're listening to

824
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:48,719
this and you're like, well, I've never heard of it,

825
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,960
shoot me a text, or send me a message, find

826
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440
me on Facebook. Let's let's hook up. If you want

827
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,519
to talk movies, let's do it.

828
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 5: I remember the very first I don't remember if it

829
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,960
was the first review that we got, but it was

830
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,079
one of the very first reviews, and the review was

831
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480
I really appreciate the way that you guys do this

832
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,760
because I have a I think she was probably thirteen

833
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,559
or fourteen year old daughter at the time, who I

834
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,000
you know, rides to I'd give her ride to school

835
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:22,960
every morning and we listen to your podcasts and talk

836
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,440
about stuff together. So I keep appreciate you keeping it clean,

837
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,039
keeping it interesting, keeping it accessibble by all ages. And

838
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,239
I was kind of blown away by that because I,

839
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,119
you know, I've got a bunch of kids. He's got

840
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,599
a bunch of kids, and that's I mean, if somebody

841
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,960
had done that for me, had created something that I

842
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,639
could share with my kids and talk with my kids

843
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:44,920
about I would be ecstatic about that, and so I was.

844
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,559
Really it was dumb luck again that we happened to

845
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,119
find that thing, but that was James Buckley. And James

846
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,599
Buckley is one of our closest friends now and has

847
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:58,480
been a financial supporter and uh you know advertiser Maven

848
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,840
for the podcast and eventually we're going to get down

849
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,639
there and see hidden tracks play. And he's been a

850
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,280
close with us, I mean, and has helped my kid

851
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:16,719
with a ticket in Louisiana. It's just it's just but

852
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,480
but having something that people can share with their family,

853
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,960
with their kids, or even with their coworkers, and we

854
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:28,639
don't We're not the only thing that said, but we

855
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,679
spark a conversation that they will go on and have

856
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,760
after the show's over. Shoot. Yeah, that's all I need.

857
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the schedule like that, you know,

858
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,800
how how we how we come to the lineup the matchups,

859
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,599
assuming there is compromise when deciding which movies and music

860
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,920
you're going to develop into episodes. Was there ever, has

861
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,280
ever been an episode that gave you pause or on

862
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,639
whether or not to cover it? These smile and he

863
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,880
might like he's got something I makes to hear what

864
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,360
this is.

865
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 5: Well, no, I just Jason called me like a month

866
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,360
ago and.

867
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: I was like, go ahead, you turned Yeah.

868
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,679
Speaker 5: He's like, what do you think about Steve Winwood? And

869
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,719
I was like, I hate him. I don't hate the man,

870
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,199
but I hate his music. I mean, I just no, no,

871
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,400
hang on, I don't want to do it.

872
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, hang on. He didn't even make

873
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,519
it to hear the matchup that I was offering. Okay,

874
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:33,239
So so here's the thing. Sometimes you do stuff that

875
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,800
you wouldn't normally do, and you come out on the

876
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,239
other side and you're like, wow, that was great air supply,

877
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Christopher Cross, Police, you know. The list goes on. I

878
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,440
just got to make sure that sometimes I got a

879
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,960
dragon kicking and screaming. But this was the matchup I

880
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,719
was going to propose against Richard Marx, which we've been

881
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,880
looking for a good matchup for Richard Marx for a

882
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,320
long time.

883
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,159
Speaker 5: I have no problem with doing Richard Marx.

884
00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: Right, We've talked about it. It's a perfect matchup. And anyway,

885
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,239
I didn't even get I'm like, it's.

886
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,519
Speaker 5: A perfect matchup, Like it's not even how are they

887
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,239
remotely related? Like Steve wynn would started playing music and

888
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,480
was in bands that were successful, and he was a

889
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,880
teenager and played in the seventies and is now like

890
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,599
a middle aged man and freaking Richard Marx was background

891
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,480
music for countless albums and then suddenly became famous for

892
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:25,960
a minute, exactly, I.

893
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: Rest my case. Thank you very much for.

894
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:32,079
Speaker 5: Not related at all. The music's not the SAME's there's nothing.

895
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: It's pop rock stuff. It's I think it's a perfect

896
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,199
matchup for Richard Marx. But that's okay, we'll keep looking. Actually, listeners,

897
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:39,960
you just told him.

898
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: I got a mini episode there.

899
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: This is. I will say this. I was like, if

900
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,599
you want to go do that with somebody else, I'm

901
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,599
totally fine with that. But I kissed. I can't listen

902
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:48,400
to an entire album of Team but I don't like

903
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,599
his voice. I don't want to like the entire album

904
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,000
of him. I can't.

905
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,119
Speaker 1: I did not anticipate the Steve Winwood versus Richard Marks

906
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,440
matchup inside this Getting to Know Shirley episode, So thank you,

907
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:03,039
Like we've figured it out, you know, final judgment. You

908
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:04,079
guys are split on this one.

909
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. I was like, if you want to

910
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,079
do this with somebody else, it's okay. Like I'm not,

911
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,079
I'm okay. And he was like, oh I gonna do that.

912
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: No you can't.

913
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,079
Speaker 2: You know, No, I'm not doing that.

914
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,559
Speaker 5: And I and I was like, well, you know, there

915
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:17,199
may be something like maybe we're going to do a

916
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,840
Steve Stevie Wonder episode and you don't want to do it,

917
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,360
and so I gotta go do somebody else And he

918
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,079
was like no. I was like, you're right, No, I

919
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,119
would never do that. It's just not the same. The

920
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,639
chemistry would be the content would be the same. It'd

921
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:33,079
be like, yeah, haven't we know? And it would I

922
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:34,119
feel guilty forever.

923
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. We don't want Coy Advance. We want

924
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,960
Bow and Luke. You can't. You can't mix it up

925
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,280
for us.

926
00:45:41,559 --> 00:45:48,679
Speaker 2: Maybe we Steve one would versus Stevie Wonder. Maybe right,

927
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,519
and then we can just see who taps out first.

928
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,199
Speaker 1: Oh that would be That's that's it right there. How

929
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,559
much how much abuse can you take? I'm excited, guys,

930
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:03,440
we are the new season is right around the corner.

931
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,039
I'm gonna ask and I know you guys are you

932
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,239
might be a little tight lipped here about what we're

933
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,039
going at, what's coming? But what excites you the most

934
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:14,119
this year? Can you what can long time listeners expect

935
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:14,440
more of?

936
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what the answer is. For Jason, I

937
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,639
got a guess. But for me, I'm excited. And this

938
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,239
is interesting because it's not eighties at seventies, but I

939
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,880
am excited to talk about Fleetwood Mac rumors versus Eagles

940
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Hotel California. I think that's going to be amazing, amazing.

941
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to go back. How do you decide?

942
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,840
I don't know.

943
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:41,639
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer at this point. You know,

944
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,559
I can say that I grew up with the Eagles

945
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:49,159
and not as much with Fleetwood Mac. But you're in

946
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,079
the last couple of decades, I've really grown to love

947
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,880
Fleetwood Mac, so listen to him side by side. I

948
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,000
don't know. I don't know how it's going to turn out.

949
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:58,880
I have a feeling that I'm gonna lean towards the Eagles,

950
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,800
but I couldn't tell you for sure.

951
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's to me, that's my number one, like that's

952
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360
the tenth pole episode. Of course, I'm excited about all

953
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,119
of our episodes. I think our nineteen eighty four versus

954
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,320
fifty one fifty episode Van Halen versus Van Hagar. I

955
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,400
can't wait for that. But we also we're gonna dance

956
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,599
around in nineteen eighty one. We're gonna do Minute Work,

957
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,239
which I've already looked into. There's an incredible story there,

958
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,360
you know. We got Minute Work versus Hall of Notes

959
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,880
versus the Jay Dobsband. That's gonna be a fun nineteen

960
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,559
eighty one.

961
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,039
Speaker 1: Nice matchup.

962
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

963
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,119
Speaker 2: But also but also we're doing Pretty and Pink versus

964
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:38,639
some kind of wonderful and we've got Melissa Mingle and

965
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,760
Jill McCormick coming in from out of town, Like Melissa's

966
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,320
coming in from Colorado Springs, she's flying in, Jill's driving

967
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,880
over from Tulsa, and we're gonna have a great conversation

968
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,559
with them. So that's gonna be a lot of fun too.

969
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, one of the things again talking

970
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,639
about the chemistry, talking about what you guys do every week.

971
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,000
I can't thank you enough for giving us the opportunity

972
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,800
to I get to know you guys like I, you know,

973
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,039
and that's something. But before we met in person, before

974
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:06,159
we you know, before I flew out to, you know,

975
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:07,880
half away across the country to meet meet up with

976
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,760
you guys. It's like, these guys are my buddies. I

977
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,159
know these guys. I grew up with these guys, even

978
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:14,760
though I didn't grow up with these guys. And one

979
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,000
of the things I love that you guys do. There'll

980
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,679
be episodes where you guys come in and you're just like, hey,

981
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,199
I was driving in here. I think I changed my mind,

982
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:27,079
you know, because you know talking about like, well, you know,

983
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,480
is there is your final judgment set like from the

984
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,159
beginning or is it is it a game time? You

985
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,159
guys have done some game time decisions. I feel like

986
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,280
we're even in the middle of the show, you're like,

987
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,400
you know, I think I'm switching here. This is this

988
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,199
is where I'm at. And I think that's part of

989
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,880
the fun of the show is like, you know, you

990
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,920
get to know you guys. And I've done a plenty

991
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,360
of times where I'm like, oh, I got I got this.

992
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,800
I know what you're picking. This is my prediction on

993
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,760
your final judgment. You know, you guys have been great

994
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,639
where you're like, well, you'll you'll find out in a

995
00:48:55,679 --> 00:48:58,559
couple of weeks. We'll see I like, sometimes I'm right

996
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:01,559
and sometimes sometimes I'm really wrong, Like like D and

997
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:05,000
st was fired further from the mark on that one.

998
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: He tell me like a week before He's like, I'm predicting.

999
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,159
D goes hard in on sant Elmo's fire like.

1000
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, he's you know, the law

1001
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,559
school and college years. D is gonna connect with these

1002
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,519
guys and he, I mean he shooting from the hip

1003
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,239
like it was. Minutes into the episode he lets it

1004
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,719
be known. I was just like, whoa, I'm I missed

1005
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:37,679
that one. So yeah, gruy, he's the best. Well, gentlemen,

1006
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,960
As we wrap up, i'd like to I'd like you

1007
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,039
each to answer one last question without giving any explanation

1008
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,079
for your answer. Okay, and D will start with you.

1009
00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,320
If you could choose one movie or music act to cover.

1010
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,559
Knowing that Jason can't say no, what would it be?

1011
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,639
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not a big no sayer, like

1012
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:12,360
I don't say no if you bring it to me.

1013
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,400
I'm like, okay, let's.

1014
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: Do just no explanations, just this is this is what

1015
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,280
we're doing.

1016
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,039
Speaker 5: What is it? D? The never ending story?

1017
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Really, I can't imagine he would say no to that.

1018
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,480
But Jason, same question, no explanation.

1019
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: Hay uh hay huh.

1020
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,079
Speaker 5: Versus what that's a good question?

1021
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 2: Dark Crystal?

1022
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,199
Speaker 5: I was gonna say it could be Dark Crystal. It

1023
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:38,079
could also be Labyrinth, so roll croll. I feel like

1024
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,079
his beast Master is the only matchup.

1025
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,599
Speaker 2: So what'd you say? Dark Crystal Labyrinth?

1026
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? One of those would be the matchup for the

1027
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:50,519
Never Ending Story, I think.

1028
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,199
Speaker 1: Or or a three way yeah through the three way fight.

1029
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:57,119
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, but yeah, because I don't think that

1030
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,360
he's a big fan of the Never Ending Story. But

1031
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,800
I really want to cover that movie.

1032
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: That's an amazing movie. I guess can't imagine. Well, Kate Peterson, Jason,

1033
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,840
you got to say yes to the Never Any Story,

1034
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,800
all right? But Jason, same question, Now, no explanations. He

1035
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,280
can't say, no, what's the movie or the music matchup

1036
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,159
that you would love to do?

1037
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 5: See?

1038
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: This is tricky because there are episodes that we haven't

1039
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,239
done that I really want to do, but I know

1040
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,679
that he's already on board with. Or do I pull

1041
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,920
out the trump card and make him do something that

1042
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,920
I know he doesn't want to do? Oh no, he

1043
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,039
said if if Yeah, So the one that would make

1044
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:39,320
the do for sure.

1045
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: So like.

1046
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: One that has been burning in my back pocket for

1047
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,159
a long time is The Scorpions. And but we've talked

1048
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:53,000
many times about how that will be a super interesting

1049
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:55,519
episode and that he would be on board with doing that.

1050
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,440
But I think the one that I'm gonna pull out

1051
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,519
that maybe he hasn't heard me say, is I'd love

1052
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,000
to cover. I think it's their debut album, Third Eye Blind.

1053
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so good, good album too, all.

1054
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Right, that album meant a lot to me in the

1055
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:13,960
late nineties, so and I and he's the nineties guy,

1056
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:16,159
but that album I'm a big fan of.

1057
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: So well, I'm gonna do this too. I'm gonna, I'm

1058
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,639
gonna yeah, I'm gonna do this too. I'm gonna, I'm

1059
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,320
gonna take I'm gonna shoot my shot here, I'm gonna

1060
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:28,320
I'm gonna get my answer, even though the question wasn't

1061
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,519
to me.

1062
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 2: Wait, wait before you say that we are doing show

1063
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,679
Girls versus Strip Teas this summer with.

1064
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: You, I am that's already locked up. Man, What the

1065
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:43,559
heck happened? New series? New season? And I'm hey, I

1066
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,440
am locked and loaded. I am ready to talk about

1067
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:51,480
show Girls with you, guys. And striped teas for that matter. Yeah,

1068
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:54,519
but uh, I'm gonna I have to give this one

1069
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:59,239
a D like the inspiration because he's having a conversation

1070
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,360
at the what I like to call the Shirley manor

1071
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,639
where we go to Shirley Fest and he comes up

1072
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,159
with this matchup and I'm like, is he out of

1073
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,199
his mind? And I'm not going to share the details

1074
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,079
because he blew my mind when he started talking about it. Uh, so,

1075
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,039
D I'm gonna remind you, I think me and every

1076
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:22,000
other Shirley you can't be serious fan that was in

1077
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:25,000
that house that that weekend we are waiting for the

1078
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:28,760
Cloak and Dagger versus fight Club matchup. And I won't

1079
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,039
say anything else, but the just the ten minutes you

1080
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:35,559
you went live with that I was Please give me

1081
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,239
the whole episode. I'm ready for it.

1082
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: So good one. That's what I got for you.

1083
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: Guys.

1084
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,599
Speaker 1: Guys, listen, this has been a blast. I H I

1085
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,519
really appreciate you kind of opening up, open up the

1086
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:49,400
doors and letting us see. You know, how this amazing

1087
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,079
show gets made and what goes into it. And you know,

1088
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:54,079
obviously a lot of love, a lot of passion goes

1089
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:57,800
into this, and you know, I hope we're just getting started.

1090
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,840
I know that, you know, season seven right around the corner.

1091
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,519
I hope we're talking during season seventeen, season twenty seven.

1092
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,719
As a as a friend, as a listener, as a

1093
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,159
fellow podcaster, thank you for what you guys do.

1094
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,559
Speaker 2: Jeff, thanks for your time, man, appreciate you. And I'll

1095
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,599
go ahead and say it. I'll go ahead, tease it up.

1096
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,880
I'm going to be interviewing you with basically the same

1097
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,880
questions for your show.

1098
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a this was kind of a fun thing, like,

1099
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,559
you know, we were talking one day. It's like, you know,

1100
00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:27,559
do you ever get a like do you have get

1101
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:30,239
people email on you asking you stuff? Like You're like, huh,

1102
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,440
we never talk about that. Or maybe we should do

1103
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,719
something like, you know, let's open the hood up and

1104
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,119
you know, tinker around under. You know, it's I think

1105
00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:43,639
it's a cool idea. So I'm excited to I'm curious

1106
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:45,519
and I'm excited to see what kind of questions you

1107
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,199
have for me and the film by podcast. I look

1108
00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:49,719
forward to it.

1109
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 2: I must say one more thing. I just want to

1110
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,559
say this. If you are out there and you're listening

1111
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,480
to us, and you want to start your own podcasts,

1112
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,440
and you've got questions or you've got interest, you are

1113
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,480
more than welcome to reach out to either one of us.

1114
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:03,599
I'm sure Jeff you'd love to.

1115
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: Help you, absolutely please.

1116
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 2: So if you got something you've got cooking you want

1117
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,679
to talk to somebody about it, reach out to us.

1118
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:10,519
We'd love to hear from you.

1119
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean to give a little more of the history.

1120
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,119
That's exactly how Jeff got to know us. He sent

1121
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,079
us an email and he was like, Hey, I like

1122
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:20,039
what you guys are doing, would you be cool with

1123
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,599
calling me? And I was at a soccer game and

1124
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,239
I looked and I was like, I got time at

1125
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,679
the number, and we started talking and Jeff was my friend.

1126
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,239
In the first thirty seconds, I knew that this was

1127
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,639
the guy that I was going to keep talking to

1128
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:36,719
for a long time after this. So, yeah, we love.

1129
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: That's a big day for me. Dd I. Again, I

1130
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:39,800
can't thank you.

1131
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 5: Enough for that. Just yeah, just nice to make new friends. Man.

1132
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: To quote Pat Ganagallo, a stranger is just a friend

1133
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,239
you haven't met yet. Love that.

1134
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,639
Speaker 1: Love that. Yeah, all right, And lastly, guys, the next

1135
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:55,199
time we hear you guys, what's what's the matchup?

1136
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,639
Speaker 2: Okay, Jeff. Next week we are kicking off season seven.

1137
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:01,840
We're going track by track through Ario Speed Wagons high

1138
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,400
Infidelity album with our good friend Doug Gray.

1139
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 5: It's about by the way, I found Guest Records.

1140
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: Nice and we're matching that up with the Mighty Rush

1141
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,679
Moving Pictures and we're covering that with Brad Moore and

1142
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,280
Tim Epp from Canada.

1143
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,199
Speaker 5: We have our we have a Canadian Canadian.

1144
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: Going authentic.

1145
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1146
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: Listeners. Thank you for checking out this very special episode.

1147
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:36,719
Go online Patreon dot com, slash Shirley you can't.

1148
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,079
Speaker 2: Be serious, Sureley Podcast, Shirley Podcast, Shirly Podcast.

1149
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:43,039
Speaker 1: Thank you the Shirley Podcast. The bonus content that that

1150
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:45,440
these guys make available is awesome.

1151
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 5: Uh.

1152
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: You see me if you're if you're watching this on YouTube,

1153
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,400
hit that subscribe button. I'm I'm wearing the merchandise. It

1154
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,360
is one of my new favorite T shirts. I'm drinking

1155
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,199
out of this amazing tumblow. This is this is my

1156
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,519
go to thing when I'm a pull side. I love

1157
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:02,880
this guy so so, but yeah, check him out. Get

1158
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,760
the merch because it's it's good stuff.

1159
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,119
Speaker 2: You bring that to the pool. You're gonna eat checks?

1160
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes, chick magnet right, Yeah, it's got my name on it.

1161
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,239
I'm not messing around, lady kind of deal, you know.

1162
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:21,199
I know, Jason and d.

1163
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, see you man, thank you, thank you guys.

1164
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: The fact that he doesn't like Steve Winwood, I think

1165
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,320
it was all pretty pretty spot on.

1166
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 5: The Only way he could have made it worse was

1167
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,159
to offer to cover Billy Ocean

1168
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: HM oh Man