Speaker 1: We're Turbulerin, dude, and this is the Bitter Kitten Movie
Speaker 1: Club hellicit and is welcome back to another edition of
Speaker 1: the BKMC, a supplemental edition of the Pop Style Opinion
Speaker 1: Pest podcast where we take a look at one film
Speaker 1: per week and dissect it and hope to get a
Speaker 1: discussion started on it. This week's well, thanks for interrupting.
Speaker 1: This week's film is Practical Magic nineteen ninety eight's Practical Magic,
Speaker 1: directed by Griffin Dunn and starring Nicole Kidman and Sandra
Speaker 1: Bullock and a bunch of other people and a bunch
Speaker 1: of other people. I'm not an IMTV list anyway.
Speaker 2: So a couple of things.
Speaker 1: One is that I don't know what Lorenzo's going to
Speaker 1: say today, although I think it's going to be somewhat negative.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: And second thing, I just wanted to talk about why
Speaker 1: we picked this film and what my reaction to it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so with the BKMC, we explain this. We probably over
Speaker 1: explain this if you listen to this every week, but
Speaker 1: we try to pick a range of films across genres,
Speaker 1: across decades, and we try to pick a mix of
Speaker 1: films that we have seen many times, as well as
Speaker 1: films we maybe saw once and don't remember, and films
Speaker 1: that we've never seen at all, because there's a different
Speaker 1: reaction for each one, and it's interesting to unpack these things.
Speaker 1: So Practical Magic is a film I have seen many times.
Speaker 1: I cannot remember the last time I saw it, but
Speaker 1: as it was unfolding, I was like, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: exactly how this ends. Actually, I remember everything about the story.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. I had never seen it before.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Oh that's crazy. See I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: How have I seen it many times?
Speaker 2: And you've never seen? No, that can't be right? And
Speaker 2: the dark and a closet by yourself. No, I have
Speaker 2: never I've never seen this movie with you. I have
Speaker 2: never seen the movie. When did I see it? That
Speaker 2: I done knew before you met me? No, I mean
Speaker 2: we were together when this movie came out. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: knew the scene where they're all drinking and dancing, right,
Speaker 2: but I had no idea where from.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, I had no idea. You didn't see this film,
Speaker 1: so that.
Speaker 2: Scene is very famous. I knew about the scene, but
Speaker 2: it had no Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my whole thing with a film like this and
Speaker 1: it was similar when we chose like Memento or Marie
Speaker 1: Antoinette or other films where I sat there unpacking my
Speaker 1: reaction to what I thought I remembered about the film,
Speaker 1: as well as how different the film looks in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. So when you're looking at a film in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight film, and this isn't true of all
Speaker 1: films from nineteen ninety eight, but we are in a
Speaker 1: moment culturally where romanticy and which stories are very very
Speaker 1: very very popular, right, And so it's interesting to die
Speaker 1: to look at a film like this that sort of
Speaker 1: predates this current trend. You made a disparaging comment the
Speaker 1: other night when you watched it, where you said it's
Speaker 1: very Hallmark movie.
Speaker 2: Do you want to unpack that? Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because I'm thinking about the movie and I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 2: I would never watch this movie now if it came out.
Speaker 2: It's not my thing. But I can see myself watching
Speaker 2: it because back then, in the eighties nineties, you watched
Speaker 2: a movie because of the actors too, right, right, So
Speaker 2: I would have definitely watched it back then. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I didn't. I think you might have seen
Speaker 2: that if I don't remember anything about it. So I
Speaker 2: didn't remember anything about it. Anyway, I would have watched
Speaker 2: it because of Nicole Kidman. I'm not very crazy about
Speaker 2: Sarah what's her name against Sandra bo Bullet, I'm not
Speaker 2: very crazy about her. But anyway, Nicole Kidman, I would
Speaker 2: watch it because of her. So that's my point. It's
Speaker 2: interesting because I think at least i'm you know, I
Speaker 2: can only speak for myself. Back then, I would watch
Speaker 2: anything depending on the actors, you know, like, because that's
Speaker 2: how it went. I don't know. Today, I'm more picky
Speaker 2: about what I watch because I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: You have TV at home, you have computer, you know,
Speaker 2: there are the ways of watching movies, and so I
Speaker 2: would I would say no to that now. In fact,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm watching the Practical Magika
Speaker 2: too well, I have to say, and we can unpack
Speaker 2: that in a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I have some.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say fear because I really don't
Speaker 1: feel very strongly about it either way, but I suspect
Speaker 1: that the sequel is not going to be very good,
Speaker 1: just based on some decisions that they have made for it. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Well, the big one is and I just read this.
Speaker 1: Aiden Quinn is not in the sequel. Oh, and he
Speaker 1: said this just this week. He said, I would have
Speaker 1: done it in a second, but nobody asked me. He's adorable,
Speaker 1: like he's aged.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 1: I just looked him up this morning. He's sixty eight
Speaker 1: and he looks sixty eight.
Speaker 2: Well, they all age. The difference is that he shows
Speaker 2: and they don't.
Speaker 1: Well, that's just my point is he's sixty eight and
Speaker 1: he looks sixty eight. Sandra Bullock is sixty two and
Speaker 1: she looks forty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason.
Speaker 1: They're casting Lee Pace, who's fifteen years younger than her.
Speaker 1: As I guess he's her love interest.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But you know what, we're not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about nineteen ninety eight film. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, I kept sitting through it and thinking you
Speaker 1: said rather disparagingly that it was a it was very
Speaker 1: Hallmark movie. And I was thinking about that as I
Speaker 1: was watching it, because Lorenzo watched it one night and
Speaker 1: then I watched it the next night. I feel so
Speaker 1: bad when we say stuff like that, because people must
Speaker 1: think our marriage is so and now now we are
Speaker 1: joined at the hip on everything. We work together all
Speaker 1: day long. So actually things like watching movies and watching TV,
Speaker 1: that's usually our alone time.
Speaker 2: And let me explain. We have three TVs and Tom
Speaker 2: likes to watch things on his.
Speaker 1: Computer sometimes because I have you know, I'm partially deaf.
Speaker 2: I still enjoy watching things on TV, so I like
Speaker 2: to just sit and watch on our biggest TVs. But
Speaker 2: so that's why sometimes you we watch a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff together. But you may you make a very good point.
Speaker 2: We work together. We do everything together.
Speaker 1: So sometimes sometimes we just at night we just want
Speaker 1: to be just like get away from me. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: he said it looked like a Hallmark film, and so
Speaker 1: then I started watching it, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: both accurate and a little unfair.
Speaker 2: It is accurate, but the.
Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing one of the things I
Speaker 1: was struck with with this film was esthetic. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there is such a strong aesthetic with this film, very
Speaker 1: much in that Nancy Meyer's rom com mode, which was
Speaker 1: established in the eighties and the nineties, so it didn't
Speaker 1: invent that sort of ultra cozy, cozy cozy aesthetic that
Speaker 1: the film is practically dripping with But it's very much
Speaker 1: in that mode and that mode that Nancy Meyer's Practical
Speaker 1: Magic kind of cozy romance mode. It actually created the
Speaker 1: Hallmark channel aesthetic as we know it. So when you're
Speaker 1: looking at Practical Magic and you're thinking, well, this looks
Speaker 1: like a Hallmark movie, it predates Hallmark movies by about
Speaker 1: ten years. And you can make the argument that a
Speaker 1: lot of what we see in Hallmark movies, a lot
Speaker 1: of that cozy sort of sweater and falling leaves and
Speaker 1: cups of tea and that sort of thing very much,
Speaker 1: very much present in this film.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, but it's not my thing and it's
Speaker 2: too sugary to me in the sense that everything is perfect,
Speaker 2: and they play into every stereotype of of people enjoying
Speaker 2: themselves and have fun, like like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: music in the movie. Yeah, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: music like in the car and dancing and it's all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Drinking. Oh no, people are dancing and listening
Speaker 2: to music. Oh, it's just like you're the hard thing
Speaker 2: about letting your hair down and dancing around the you know,
Speaker 2: the dining room table and drinking and the do do
Speaker 2: do do do. It's cute, but it's not. It's I
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's not what finished that. It's cute,
Speaker 2: but it I don't think it's movie material. It felt
Speaker 2: every now and then it felt like an MTV video,
Speaker 2: like a musical video. I don't know. It's just yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding that. It just felt a little too
Speaker 2: I don't know, and substantial. It didn't feel like a
Speaker 2: movie every now and then it felt like I'm not
Speaker 2: watching at all, like watching like just just I don't know.
Speaker 2: It felt like that's why.
Speaker 1: They didn't feel like a TV show to me. So
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really get that. But whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: you're letto.
Speaker 2: But it's it's interesting. I thought it could have been
Speaker 2: a little more interesting in terms of darker.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I listen. I don't want to give
Speaker 1: the impression that I think this film is perfect, because
Speaker 1: I don't. I do think it's extremely enjoyable time, and
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of that comes down to Sondra and Nicole.
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I actually love Sondra Bullock. I think
Speaker 1: she's a lot of fun to watch. I think she's
Speaker 1: perfect in this movie. I think she's also gorgeous in this.
Speaker 2: Well, they're both beautiful.
Speaker 1: They're both a couple of times, you know, not to
Speaker 1: get into ageism or anything, but a couple of times like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, they were both so gorgeous back then.
Speaker 2: That's what I like. The club, the bit of kid
Speaker 2: in a club and watching these old movies that you
Speaker 2: go back and ate. You get to watch actors that
Speaker 2: you don't see anymore. Yeah, they kind of disappear Quinn, Yes,
Speaker 2: or they or people you love very very young, yeah,
Speaker 2: or you forget that some people are in certain movies
Speaker 2: and like, oh my god, I forgot you. That's why
Speaker 2: early in the movie I was like, oh wow, they.
Speaker 1: Are both beautiful, so stunning in this movie.
Speaker 2: At the costume to make sure to show that there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh no, I like Sondra Bullock. I What
Speaker 1: I think is interesting is how I remember thinking this
Speaker 1: back in the day whenever I did see it, and
Speaker 1: I actually still feel this way. I almost feel like
Speaker 1: the casting is is wrong, Like Sondra should have been
Speaker 1: playing the sexy bad girl and n Cole should have
Speaker 1: been playing the good girl with the children who's.
Speaker 2: Just looking for love. It's not really in.
Speaker 1: I mean n Cole does play bad girls. That's it's
Speaker 1: not that she hasn't played bad girls, but she's fine
Speaker 1: in this role. It just feels like she's she's trying
Speaker 1: to make the role happen for her. And I keep
Speaker 1: thinking every time, I'm like, I think Sandra Bullock would
Speaker 1: have been more fun as the sexy, irresponsible sister, and
Speaker 1: the Cole would have made more sense as the I
Speaker 1: don't want to say, repressed the sister who's looking for
Speaker 1: love whatever. And I remember also thinking back in the day,
Speaker 1: I was like, I have a hard time buying these two.
Speaker 2: His sisters, just about saying that, Oh, they're supposed to
Speaker 2: be sister's sisters, like yet, No, no, they are little sisters.
Speaker 2: No they're not. They sorry, And that is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible for two women in the same
Speaker 1: family to look like that, but they they really don't
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 2: Oh it is possible. They kill men left and right,
Speaker 2: so maybe they're two different fathers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, all right, let's take a short break because
Speaker 1: I actually do want to get back and talk about
Speaker 1: what you just brought up about them killing men, and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We're back talking about practical magic
Speaker 1: and one of the other things I wanted to address,
Speaker 1: for to Lorenzo's unfair critique about this being a Hallmark
Speaker 1: movie esque is that it is esthetically very much in
Speaker 1: that mode. But then you watch the movie and you're like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: there's two deaths in the first twenty minutes, one of
Speaker 1: which is a little violent. There's domestic abuse, there's a murder,
Speaker 1: and then there's an exorcism.
Speaker 2: Right, so all done very lightly. Well, that's just it.
Speaker 1: They can't handle the ships. And one of the critiques
Speaker 1: I have of this film is, first off, it relies
Speaker 1: too much on the fact that its leads are gorgeous
Speaker 1: and incredibly charming. So the director is Griffin Dune, and
Speaker 1: it's very clear that he's like, well, I've got two
Speaker 1: amazing movie stars on my hand, let's just shoot them
Speaker 1: and we'll just make the film about that. But then
Speaker 1: you have to do these tonal ships where you know
Speaker 1: she's getting you know, Nicole Kimmon's getting beat up, or
Speaker 1: they're killing a man, or they're burying a body, or
Speaker 1: there there's an exorcism happening and there's this evil spirit
Speaker 1: that's trying to kill.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It doesn't handle those juxtapositions very well, and part of
Speaker 1: that comes down to you're right, the film is too
Speaker 1: sugary at times and needs to be a little bit darker.
Speaker 2: I mean kill men, right, and and and that is
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you know, I want to I want
Speaker 2: to feel loved, so they don't men. Oh come on,
Speaker 2: if you know that if you're dating someone, it would
Speaker 2: be like you knowing that if you dated men, you'd
Speaker 2: kill them. And then now it's if you fall in
Speaker 2: love with him, Well there you go.
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman doesn't fall in love with the men that
Speaker 1: she dates, so none of them are in any danger.
Speaker 1: And Sondra Bullock, and this wasn't the film mister pay attention,
Speaker 1: spent her life denying the whole witch thing and denying
Speaker 1: the family curse. So she wasn't killing men. She just
Speaker 1: didn't believe that it was going to happen.
Speaker 2: I know. But they all go through the same thing
Speaker 2: that we don't see, I mean, even the older generation
Speaker 2: and all that. It would be interesting if they had
Speaker 2: had a third character, you know, a third sister, and
Speaker 2: she was lesbian. That would be fun. No, I don't
Speaker 2: think so, yeah, I mean I don't. I think that
Speaker 2: muddies the waters. The story is trying to tell it
Speaker 2: would be hysterical that one doesn't have to worry about men.
Speaker 1: The well now because I think it really comes pardon me,
Speaker 1: it really comes down to love, not the gender of
Speaker 1: the person involved. And that actually brings me to my
Speaker 1: next point. There were a couple times watching this film
Speaker 1: where I was like, Wow, you can tell him man
Speaker 1: directed this, because the sequel is directed by a woman.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like any in this day and age,
Speaker 1: any romanticies about witches and falling in love, any storyline,
Speaker 1: would almost certainly be directed by a woman. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean that in a reductive sense, but I feel
Speaker 1: like Griffin Dunn very talented director. First off, for instance,
Speaker 1: there's a very subtle sort of judgment against Nicole Kimmens's
Speaker 1: character in the film. So there's one sister who's the
Speaker 1: good sister who wants babies and husbands, and then there's
Speaker 1: the other sister who's the bad sister who likes sex
Speaker 1: and bad boyfriend and doesn't want to get married, and
Speaker 1: the film punishes her for two hours. And I feel
Speaker 1: like a female director would have handled that a little
Speaker 1: bit more, would have actually made it about the man
Speaker 1: and not about Nicole Kimmen's bad decisions would have made
Speaker 1: it about shitty men and not women making bad decisions,
Speaker 1: which is kind of what this film does. And that's
Speaker 1: what I mean about a female perspective would have helped. Similarly,
Speaker 1: there's only one scene I absolutely hate in the film.
Speaker 1: It's when all the towns women come with their brooms
Speaker 1: and they have the little coven again. There's just an
Speaker 1: implied sort of mocking going on. Look at these silly
Speaker 1: women in their sweater sets, showing up with dustbusters and giggling,
Speaker 1: And I think a female director would have leaned way
Speaker 1: into the whole coven aspect, the sisterhood aspect, the womanhood
Speaker 1: aspect of that scene, instead of making fun of a
Speaker 1: bunch of housewives with Karen hare Cuts. That scene actually
Speaker 1: pissed me off. I was like, this whole movie builds
Speaker 1: to this moment of sisterhood, and you're kind of mocking
Speaker 1: them and making them look silly.
Speaker 2: Not only that it implies that they're only joining them
Speaker 2: because they're going to get rid of a man again. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mind that.
Speaker 1: I mean I think there is a point there, like
Speaker 1: these women were prejudiced and they feared right the Owen
Speaker 1: sisters and everything. But when women hear that a woman's
Speaker 1: in trouble because of a man, they.
Speaker 2: Will all come running. And again that's probably a little reductive,
Speaker 2: but I didn't mind that's that aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I actually liked that aspect of it. It's just that
Speaker 1: when they got there, they made them all look kind
Speaker 1: of silly, right, anything else?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 1: I think I've covered most of what I I said
Speaker 1: to Lorenzo at the start of before we even flipped
Speaker 1: on the mics, I was like, this isn't going to
Speaker 1: be a long, in depth conversation because this is not
Speaker 1: a heavy, deep film. It is a very pleasant film.
Speaker 1: I love it, loved watching it.
Speaker 2: I agree it's a door horrible every now and then,
Speaker 2: and very pleasant. It's it's sweet. It's sweet.
Speaker 1: And we haven't even mentioned Diane Weed since Soccer Channing,
Speaker 1: which in my memory of this film, I thought they
Speaker 1: were in it way more, but they're actually not in
Speaker 1: it that much. They're only in it for like a
Speaker 1: half hour.
Speaker 2: I adore this.
Speaker 1: They're both fantastic and one subtle bit of costuming in
Speaker 1: the film is, if you pay attention, all of their
Speaker 1: clothes are about one hundred years old. Oh right, they're
Speaker 1: wearing clothes from like the early late eighteen hundreds, early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, and the implication there is that they're very old.
Speaker 2: They're very old, and that actually.
Speaker 1: Gets into I think my final sort of critique of
Speaker 1: the film is, and again I think the sequel will
Speaker 1: probably be very different in this sense, is that there
Speaker 1: wasn't enough magic. They were very you know, circumspect about
Speaker 1: showing anything too, like so you saw a tea spoon
Speaker 1: and she blows on a candle and you know, they
Speaker 1: fly off the roop. They don't even show them flying
Speaker 1: off the root, right, And again I think a female
Speaker 1: director would have wanted more show more demonstrations of their power.
Speaker 1: They are powerful. That is the part of the point
Speaker 1: of the story is that they are powerful, and you
Speaker 1: are not showing them as powerful at any time during
Speaker 1: the film. They're all like bumbling, you know. So I
Speaker 1: would have liked that.
Speaker 2: I agree, And I think those tonal changes would have
Speaker 2: worked better. Like when that goes evil spirit suddenly comes
Speaker 2: out of her body, I'm like, Okay, this is weird.
Speaker 2: This is just weird. It doesn't feel like any other
Speaker 2: part of the film. But if you had actually done
Speaker 2: more magic on camera. If you had shown them to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more powerful then the I think
Speaker 2: those shifts might have worked a little better.
Speaker 1: But I agree with your point is it's an interesting
Speaker 1: story that should have sort of dispensed with the romance
Speaker 1: aspect and gone a little darker.
Speaker 2: With a little darker, I mean the fact that the
Speaker 2: last man, you know, the one sent a bulk is dating.
Speaker 2: I forget the character's name. Oh so everything, it's fine,
Speaker 2: and she's dating now and then the movie ends, Okay,
Speaker 2: so we know he's gonna be dead, right, No, they
Speaker 2: broke the curse.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, they brought that whole I was saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: the coven thing. They said that they broke the curse.
Speaker 1: So but of course Aiden Quinn's not in the sequel,
Speaker 1: so I guess they didn't break the carr.
Speaker 2: I know that. That's my point. Not everything is clear,
Speaker 2: and and it's just done very quickly and they move
Speaker 2: on to something else. I agree, it's not a very
Speaker 2: substantial film now. I mean, I wish we were a
Speaker 2: little dark every now and then they have they wish
Speaker 2: they had done something bad for the town, you know
Speaker 2: that side a little more, Yeah, cynical a little more,
Speaker 2: but I guess. But obviously that wasn't the goal. Oh no,
Speaker 2: that wasn't what the movie was trying to achieve. It
Speaker 2: was this sweet story about these gorgeous ladies with power
Speaker 2: and you know, and love love, love, love love, which
Speaker 2: is whatever.
Speaker 1: And one final thing is I have to laugh because
Speaker 1: again the difference is between nineteen ninety eight and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now, don't get me wrong, Aiden Quinn is
Speaker 1: very very cute in this movie, but.
Speaker 2: He it was a mess.
Speaker 1: His hair was a mess, his clothes were a mess,
Speaker 1: none of his clothes fitting correctly. And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: bet you that guy doesn't have abs. And who's the
Speaker 1: guy in the sequel? Lee Pace of course? And that's
Speaker 1: that's my point, is that twenty eight years ago, the
Speaker 1: lead guy in a romance movie didn't have to be,
Speaker 1: you know, physically flawed.
Speaker 2: So they're still playing the same characters like all these
Speaker 2: years later.
Speaker 1: Have you Oh okay, wow, you really sat down not
Speaker 1: knowing anything about what.
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking we were talking about. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the new movie. Yeah, it's a sequel. I know it's
Speaker 2: a sequel, but I haven't read too much about it,
Speaker 2: and I didn't think it had anything to do with
Speaker 2: the first one. I'm just I thought it was a
Speaker 2: different story or a different thing anyway. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know they're playing the Owen sisters that much, and I
Speaker 2: know they have cast Joey King and Mayzie Williams is
Speaker 2: the daughter, which is adorable. They're great.
Speaker 1: Daughter should be a lot older than Joey King and Mazie.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know Evan Rachel Wood plays the
Speaker 1: one daughter in the original film. Did you know that
Speaker 1: the red girl saving Rachel would And I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's about thirty five thirty six now, so yeah, they
Speaker 1: should be a little bit older anyway, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It was an enjoyable two hours. I actually was happy
Speaker 1: to watch this after last week's entry Blue Moon, which
Speaker 1: was kind of frustrating and depressing. This was just fun
Speaker 1: and light and I'm looking at two stunningly gorgeous women
Speaker 1: basically at the height of their movie stardom.
Speaker 2: Right now. I was that's not a bad time. I
Speaker 2: was watching the movie at the same time, I was thinking, wow,
Speaker 2: I understand why this movie was so popular and we.
Speaker 1: Didn't know it was a flop. Really, Yes, that's the
Speaker 1: other thing. It's so large in the culture. Everyone remembers
Speaker 1: the blender scene and the blowing on the candle and everything.
Speaker 1: You mentioned these iconic scenes and I went and looked
Speaker 1: it up. It was a flop. It didn't make back
Speaker 1: its production budget, and the critics didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Wow. Interesting, So it's.
Speaker 1: One of those films that has just gained power generationally.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where I think young gen
Speaker 1: X and older millennial women they just look at that
Speaker 1: film as Yeah, that was something I watched a million
Speaker 1: times when I was thirteen years old or whatever, and
Speaker 1: it's stuck in their minds as But it was not
Speaker 1: popular at the time.
Speaker 2: See because I that's all they talk about on TikTok
Speaker 2: and social media and everything. You know, they can't wait
Speaker 2: to see the sequel. And I was like, wow, So
Speaker 2: that's why I thought it was so popular back down,
Speaker 2: because I was like, all right, this exploded. But I
Speaker 2: guess it exploded later, yeah, not when they launched it.
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of I don't have thoughts
Speaker 1: either way. I mean, like the Devil Wears product too.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this needs to be good.
Speaker 1: If it's not going to be good, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: pissed this. I don't have a lot of thoughts on
Speaker 1: whether and I'm certainly not going to go see it
Speaker 1: in the theater, but I suspect it's not.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like I said, the twenty twenty sixth version of
Speaker 1: this nineteen ninety eight film would have been a very
Speaker 1: different movie, and I suspect that's what we're going to get,
Speaker 1: which we're going to get way more magic, right, It's
Speaker 1: going to be sexier, you know, And we'll see. I
Speaker 1: love I still love Nicole and Sondra, but there is
Speaker 1: a difference watching them now where they can't really move
Speaker 1: their faces all that much as opposed to in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight when they were these beautifully young women.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll review it when it comes out or at
Speaker 1: it OPENKMC in a year, whatever, But I'm not like
Speaker 1: panting waiting for this film to come out, much as
Speaker 1: I love these two actresses, and I do think the
Speaker 1: original is very pleasant.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I'm probably not. I like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said as sugary, I said, hiss, Hallmark kind of movie,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I stand by what I said. But I
Speaker 2: also thought it was sweet lovely and of the time
Speaker 2: you can so. I mean so I burst out laughing
Speaker 2: when Faith Hills this kiss started wow, because I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that.
Speaker 1: Is such a cliche. But this is probably where the
Speaker 1: cliche started. Yeah, it's so nineties and that's fine. Did
Speaker 1: you know the house was completely fake? They built a shell,
Speaker 1: really and they put fake silk blossoms on all the
Speaker 1: trees around the hell Like, when you see that the
Speaker 1: shots of that house and everything, that's what I mean
Speaker 1: about aesthetic. It looks like a Thomas Kincaid painting. I
Speaker 1: mean it is so overly pretty.
Speaker 2: I mean the leaves blowing. I was like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, there's so much brown around it. It's cute.
Speaker 1: It's very cute, and it's I had no problem watching
Speaker 1: this again. But like I said, I'm not breathlessly waiting
Speaker 1: for the puck for the sequel, all right, should that is.
Speaker 2: That all we have to say? All right, Lovely. I
Speaker 2: didn't hate it. It was something I was like, I have
Speaker 2: to watch. No, I enjoyed it, yeah, but it was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is really really really.
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in seeing what some of the kittens
Speaker 1: think about how the film has aged, whether it would
Speaker 1: be done differently now and what you think the sequel
Speaker 1: is going to be like, So please come to our
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Speaker 1: some other film that I forgot to look up before
Speaker 1: we recorded this and it's listed on our site, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a fantastic selection, and we'll also be
Speaker 1: back next week with another edition of the Pop Style
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